Joe Rogan Experience #1116 - Steven Tyler

1. 0:00 – 2:51

   Crystal ball, knives, and Steven Tyler’s brand of eccentricity

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      ... four, three, two, one, boom.

   2. STSteven Tyler0:05

      Ow!

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:05

      We've done a thousand what? How many podcasts? 1,116. Steven Tyler is the only man to bring a crystal ball.

   4. STSteven Tyler0:14

      Mm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      You're the first.

   6. STSteven Tyler0:16

      Because you got to bring it with you when you come.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      Do you bring that everywhere?

   8. STSteven Tyler0:22

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:23

      (laughs)

   10. STSteven Tyler0:24

       You know, I'll, I'll bring it with me to Maui. I'll bring it w- with me to, to, uh, Europe. Yeah. For the long ones.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       What is the deal? What is it?

   12. STSteven Tyler0:30

       It's just I'm into crystals. I just-

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:32

       It's pretty. Very pretty.

   14. STSteven Tyler0:33

       It's got a beautiful occlusion, and when you get the light just right on it, just like me on stage at night when the light is just right.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       Mm.

   16. STSteven Tyler0:39

       You know what I'm saying?

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:40

       I feel you, I feel you. Dude, you look fucking fantastic for 70.

   18. STSteven Tyler0:43

       Thank you.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       Can I just tell you?

   20. STSteven Tyler0:44

       Thank you.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       I found out you were 70, I was like, "Holy shit. You look really good."

   22. STSteven Tyler0:47

       And here I was gonna-

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:48

       Your skin looks amazing.

   24. STSteven Tyler0:49

       Why, thank you.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       It really does.

   26. STSteven Tyler0:50

       Thanks. And I walk around like this and wonder why everybody's fucking taking pictures and busting my chops. Walking through the airport, I actually have a T-shirt that says, "Go fuck your selfie."

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       Oh.

   28. STSteven Tyler1:02

       'Cause you're walking with the dogs-

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:03

       Right.

   30. STSteven Tyler1:03

       ... you're walking with a girl, you're wa-... And they come over and wanna stop and take a selfie so I'm like-
2. 2:51 – 4:23

   Memory, notes, and operating at “high altitude”

   1. STSteven Tyler2:51

      I gotta... Seriously, though, I gotta ask you. What the fuck do you eat for breakfast?

   2. JRJoe Rogan2:56

      Um-

   3. STSteven Tyler2:56

      How did you get so fucking smart?

   4. JRJoe Rogan2:58

      Oh, I'm not that smart.

   5. STSteven Tyler2:59

      Like, what, like-

   6. JRJoe Rogan2:59

      I just remember things.

   7. STSteven Tyler3:01

      Okay, 'cause then-

   8. JRJoe Rogan3:01

      There's a difference.

   9. STSteven Tyler3:02

      Well-

   10. JRJoe Rogan3:02

       There's a difference between being smart and just remembering a lot of shit.

   11. STSteven Tyler3:05

       Okay.

   12. JRJoe Rogan3:06

       Yeah.

   13. STSteven Tyler3:06

       You remember things?

   14. JRJoe Rogan3:06

       Yeah, I'm not that smart.

   15. STSteven Tyler3:08

       Well, remembering things is huge.

   16. JRJoe Rogan3:10

       It helps. It certainly helps.

   17. STSteven Tyler3:11

       Mm-hmm.

   18. JRJoe Rogan3:11

       Yeah, but what is smart, right? Smart is like can you solve equations, can you figure things out that other people can't figure out, do you know things other people don't know. No. I just remember shit that smart people have already figured out.

   19. STSteven Tyler3:23

       But you accumulate situations-

   20. JRJoe Rogan3:26

       Yeah. Accumulate.

   21. STSteven Tyler3:26

       You know, it's like Jimi Hendrix said-

   22. JRJoe Rogan3:27

       Yeah.

   23. STSteven Tyler3:27

       ... you know, you experience.

   24. JRJoe Rogan3:28

       Yeah.

   25. STSteven Tyler3:29

       Experiential. So if you remember those things over and over, you're gonna become a wizard. You're a wizard.

   26. JRJoe Rogan3:34

       Mm, I'm a wizard.

   27. STSteven Tyler3:34

       You're so good.

   28. JRJoe Rogan3:35

       Thank you. That's very nice of you.

   29. STSteven Tyler3:36

       You're so good. That's why I, I watched your show and I watched the beginning, right before you walked out on stage, the Triggered. And I saw two things that, that, that was, that came to my attention, was one, you were talking with your producer or whoever that said, "There's your chair, and by the way, your bottle of water is right there." We need those guys. Right?

   30. JRJoe Rogan3:54

       Oh, for sure.
3. 4:23 – 6:19

   A whirlwind timeline: Disney rides, Avatar obsession, and seeing Springsteen

   1. STSteven Tyler4:23

      April 15th, lunch with the kids in Venice. My daughter lives in Venice. Hi, Chelsea.

   2. JRJoe Rogan4:27

      That's a long time ago.

   3. STSteven Tyler4:28

      Drove to San Diego.

   4. JRJoe Rogan4:29

      (laughs)

   5. STSteven Tyler4:30

      Yeah. Well, you know, a month.

   6. JRJoe Rogan4:31

      Yeah.

   7. STSteven Tyler4:31

      'Cause I don't have good memory.

   8. JRJoe Rogan4:32

      Right.

   9. STSteven Tyler4:33

      All right. Drove to San Diego that night after that.

   10. JRJoe Rogan4:35

       So you write things down, like, w-... after you did them just to solidify them in your head?

   11. STSteven Tyler4:39

       No, I just came from a whirlwind of press and-

   12. JRJoe Rogan4:42

       Right.

   13. STSteven Tyler4:43

       Steven Tyler day and released a documentary that Casey Tebo did and all this shit happened, and we played the, the Jazz Fest in New Orleans. And that happened in the last two weeks, and I just said, uh, um, to Amy, "What h-... What have we been doing in the last... Where have we been?"

   14. JRJoe Rogan5:02

       Right.

   15. STSteven Tyler5:03

       So I wrote it down. Drove to San Diego after Venice. Did a private show.

   16. JRJoe Rogan5:08

       (laughs)

   17. STSteven Tyler5:08

       Flew to Orlando that night.

   18. JRJoe Rogan5:10

       Right.

   19. STSteven Tyler5:10

       Okay? Private gig with David Foster, Katy Perry, Pia from Idol, this girl that was so sweet. Um, rehearsed with the band, uh, and during the break from the band, I was in Disney World. I rode my, I rode my roller coaster, and I went-

   20. JRJoe Rogan5:25

       I just got back from Disney World, and I rode your roller coaster yesterday.

   21. STSteven Tyler5:27

       Okay, so you know you've made it when, right? See what I mean?

   22. JRJoe Rogan5:30

       Oh, the day before yesterday. Yeah.

   23. STSteven Tyler5:31

       So I'm going through this list and I went, "Wait a minute. We what?" And it was just a... You know, so rode the roller coaster. Then I went over-

   24. JRJoe Rogan5:38

       The Rock'n'Roller Coaster.

   25. STSteven Tyler5:38

       The most imp-... The Rock'n'Roller Coaster. You-

   26. JRJoe Rogan5:40

       It's great.

   27. STSteven Tyler5:40

       Right? Two times it goes up like that.

   28. JRJoe Rogan5:42

       And then it goes backwards.

   29. STSteven Tyler5:43

       Yeah. Zero to 60 in 2.8 seconds.

   30. JRJoe Rogan5:47

       That's pretty dope.
4. 6:19 – 9:04

   Relapse trigger and recovery: pain meds, Betty Ford, and staying sober

   1. STSteven Tyler6:19

      I just got... I went to, just to break here for a second, I went to Betty Ford eight years ago, 'cause I got fucked up with my foot stuff and just stuff.

   2. JRJoe Rogan6:28

      With your foot stuff?

   3. STSteven Tyler6:29

      Uh, I had an operation on my foot, you know-

   4. JRJoe Rogan6:30

      Oh, and then you got pain killers?

   5. STSteven Tyler6:31

      ... and I kept the meds right by the bed, you know what I'm saying?

   6. JRJoe Rogan6:33

      What'd you get done to your foot?

   7. STSteven Tyler6:34

      Broke up with my girlfriend, so they were right there.

   8. JRJoe Rogan6:36

      Oh.

   9. STSteven Tyler6:36

      And I thought, "Well, I took one five minutes ago, I wanna take another one." That's what kinda like-

   10. JRJoe Rogan6:40

       Yeah, that happens to a lot of people with those pain pills.

   11. STSteven Tyler6:42

       And so I, I checked myself into Betty Ford, but, uh-

   12. JRJoe Rogan6:44

       Good for you.

   13. STSteven Tyler6:45

       ... while I was there, they let me out a couple of times, I saw Avatar eight times.

   14. JRJoe Rogan6:51

       Did you get Avatar depression?

   15. STSteven Tyler6:52

       Nah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan6:52

       Do you know what that is?

   17. STSteven Tyler6:53

       No, no, I became her.

   18. JRJoe Rogan6:54

       Right. Which one?

   19. STSteven Tyler6:56

       I became a Na'vi.

   20. JRJoe Rogan6:57

       Sigourney Weaver? Oh.

   21. STSteven Tyler6:58

       No, not Sigourney.

   22. JRJoe Rogan6:58

       The Sigourney Weaver character?

   23. STSteven Tyler6:59

       No the, no the other one.

   24. JRJoe Rogan7:00

       Right, yeah, the girl.

   25. STSteven Tyler7:01

       Yeah, not, not the guy.

   26. JRJoe Rogan7:02

       Yeah.

   27. STSteven Tyler7:02

       I became her-

   28. JRJoe Rogan7:03

       Right.

   29. STSteven Tyler7:03

       ... and I just watched her moves and-

   30. JRJoe Rogan7:04

       She's pretty dope.
5. 9:04 – 11:34

   Vibes, “spirits,” and the magic of Muscle Shoals

   1. STSteven Tyler9:04

      Yeah, tha- and that was the next day. Uh, I went right to Rick Hall's place, who passed away like three months ago, and his son, Rodney Hall, works the place. It's called Fame Studios.

   2. JRJoe Rogan9:14

      Mm-hmm.

   3. STSteven Tyler9:15

      And, and I sat in a room, he took me all over the place, and I walked in to like the demo room where you could smell the oxides off the tape.

   4. JRJoe Rogan9:24

      Wow.

   5. STSteven Tyler9:25

      With like Percy Sledge demo. When a man loves a woman... You know, that first shit.

   6. JRJoe Rogan9:32

      Yeah.

   7. STSteven Tyler9:32

      The first stuff. Uh, Wilson Pickett. And I'm sitting in the room with him, and I'm telling you, man, I started to cry. I cried... I welt up three times there.

   8. JRJoe Rogan9:42

      Wow.

   9. STSteven Tyler9:43

      Just to be in the room. I'm standing, doing the vocals to Brown Sugar right where Little Richard sang, right where he sang. I see a picture on the wall of him standing right there. To me-

   10. JRJoe Rogan9:55

       And this is all in Muscle Shoals?

   11. STSteven Tyler9:56

       Yeah, Muscle Shoals.

   12. JRJoe Rogan9:56

       Li- did you see that documentary?

   13. STSteven Tyler9:58

       I did. I watched the documentary first of all.

   14. JRJoe Rogan10:00

       Incredible.

   15. STSteven Tyler10:00

       I said, "I'm in."

   16. JRJoe Rogan10:01

       What is it about that place?

   17. STSteven Tyler10:02

       Um-

   18. JRJoe Rogan10:02

       Like, ho- how did that place-

   19. STSteven Tyler10:03

       Okay, here's what it is. It's the vibes. If you're into vibes-

   20. JRJoe Rogan10:07

       Yeah.

   21. STSteven Tyler10:07

       ... if you're into living, if you're into feeling alive, you can always feel sad when your mom dies, but you gotta amp that up. You gotta feel good when bad things are going on. You gotta thank God when bad things are going on. You gotta be into crystals, love your, love your girlfriend, try to be happy, try to find the positivity in negativity. And then when you listen to music and your very favorite thing and you close your eyes, that's vibes. That's something you can't even talk about, really. It's how you feel personally. Whatever you've been through in your life, those vibes of those songs, Wilson Pickett, Little Richard, I mean, The Allman Brothers-

   22. JRJoe Rogan10:45

       Right.

   23. STSteven Tyler10:45

       ... started there.

   24. JRJoe Rogan10:46

       Right.

   25. STSteven Tyler10:47

       So when you listen to The Allman Brothers, you, you're in the room where Gregg said to his brother, "Let's do this song." So-

   26. JRJoe Rogan10:54

       So do you think it is because all those talented people performed there and they, they like let it soak into the building?

   27. STSteven Tyler11:00

       It's-

   28. JRJoe Rogan11:00

       I mean, is that what it is? 'Cause there's, there's places that do have like a magic to them. I always talk about The Comedy Store like that.

   29. STSteven Tyler11:06

       Mm.

   30. JRJoe Rogan11:06

       The Comedy Store has a magic to it. When you're there, there's something about that place that like thi- it feels like great things have happened in that place before. You feel it in the wood, you feel it in the carpet. It's just, it's in the air. Do you feel like that was Muscle Strolls? Is it, there's... Is it because all those great artists have performed there and like almost like the room has a memory of it?
6. 11:34 – 25:08

   The 21-grams myth, drugs in the old days, and music as time travel

   1. STSteven Tyler11:34

      Okay, well, when you die, did you know that you, that you're on the table? You die, and if the table is... w- you're being weighed as you die.

   2. JRJoe Rogan11:43

      No.

   3. STSteven Tyler11:43

      It goes down a number. What's the number?

   4. JRJoe Rogan11:44

      21 grams.

   5. STSteven Tyler11:45

      Okay, great.

   6. JRJoe Rogan11:46

      It's not real.

   7. STSteven Tyler11:46

      Huh?

   8. JRJoe Rogan11:46

      That's not real.

   9. STSteven Tyler11:47

      It's not true?

   10. JRJoe Rogan11:48

       No, it's one of those things-

   11. STSteven Tyler11:49

       Not a-

   12. JRJoe Rogan11:49

       ... that people always say.

   13. STSteven Tyler11:49

       You sure?

   14. JRJoe Rogan11:50

       It's just- yeah, there's no way of really measuring.

   15. STSteven Tyler11:52

       Oh man, you just-

   16. JRJoe Rogan11:52

       Yeah.

   17. STSteven Tyler11:52

       ... burst my balloon.

   18. JRJoe Rogan11:53

       I think it's just one of those-

   19. STSteven Tyler11:54

       Fuck you.

   20. JRJoe Rogan11:54

       Hold on a minute.

   21. STSteven Tyler11:54

       It's one of those hippie things that people-

   22. NANarrator11:56

       Fucking A.

   23. STSteven Tyler11:56

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan11:56

       (laughs) It's one of those hippie things that people love to say.

   25. STSteven Tyler11:59

       You sure?

   26. JRJoe Rogan11:59

       Pretty sure. Jamie, why don't you Google it?

   27. STSteven Tyler12:01

       Uh, I was-

   28. JRJoe Rogan12:01

       But I'm pretty sure that's not real.

   29. STSteven Tyler12:02

       Anyway, I believe in that.

   30. JRJoe Rogan12:04

       I do too sometimes.
7. 25:08 – 30:08

   Creativity under the influence vs. better writing sober

   1. STSteven Tyler25:08

      We could talk for two hours about times I did shit and almost died. So-

   2. JRJoe Rogan25:12

      I'm sure.

   3. STSteven Tyler25:13

      You know, and then I could also tell you, um, how many times I took shit and wrote things like, you know, I'm listening to this guitar lick that Joe's playing. He did an interview here with you.

   4. JRJoe Rogan25:27

      Yeah. Oh.

   5. STSteven Tyler25:27

      But he didn't tell you how in his fucking sleep he would play these riffs, and I'd come down the hallway because, you know, as I see it, of course, not as they see it. But as I see it, we were up in New England and he was playing at a place, and I mowed the lawn at my f- my, my, my parents' place, and I had quit my last band and I was fucking a li-hoo za-hur. I was crying. I was in no more bands. The dream was over. He drives up in an MG, we go and he's playing that night. I swear to God this happened. And so we decided to move down to Boston, but all in an apartment because I thought, I knew why those bands didn't make it. But I knew in my heart that if I had a bro in a band, like a Mick and a Keith, like The Kinks-

   6. JRJoe Rogan26:16

      Yeah.

   7. STSteven Tyler26:16

      ... with David, Dave and, you know, Ray, any of those bands they had, they had, you know, they had, it was two guys that were really tight.

   8. JRJoe Rogan26:24

      They'd feed off each other.

   9. STSteven Tyler26:25

      They fed off each other. Exactly. So we moved down there. I got really tight with Joe. I hear him, he'd get, we'd get so shwacked. We'd, we would... so stoned on Boo- Boone's Farm-

   10. JRJoe Rogan26:37

       (laughs)

   11. STSteven Tyler26:37

       ... you know, and we'd, I mean, fucking (mumbles) .

   12. JRJoe Rogan26:41

       (laughs)

   13. STSteven Tyler26:41

       I said, "What did he say? What'd you say?" Anyway, but he would play these licks, they were so fucking... for every song you've ever heard, Sweet Emotion, every one of those licks, Walk This Way, there's 20 that got lost in the ether.

   14. JRJoe Rogan26:56

       Right.

   15. STSteven Tyler26:57

       20 that got lost in the ether. So I went out and bought a little thing called a tape recorder back then. Remember this was '71, you know, a lot of sh- shit wasn't on, no phones, no cell phones. So I would record that shit, and so anyway, where we going with this? That's, that's what, that's where these songs came from, and stuff would come out of my head while I was... like, << Sweet emotion >> Wait, whoa fuck, get me a pa- paper and pen. I'd write that shit down. Suddenly, whoops, on the radio. See, so I used that place-

   16. JRJoe Rogan27:30

       What if, what if

   17. NANarrator27:30

       Healer.

   18. STSteven Tyler27:30

       ... that you get, you go to when-

   19. JRJoe Rogan27:31

       Yeah.

   20. STSteven Tyler27:31

       ... you eat edibles, do you ever write some of your routines when you're with edibles?

   21. JRJoe Rogan27:35

       Oh, for sure. Yeah, I record them.

   22. STSteven Tyler27:36

       Well, there you go.

   23. JRJoe Rogan27:36

       Yeah. No, for sure.

   24. STSteven Tyler27:37

       Well, and also, check this out, the, the best part of it is when I got sober, I started writing even, even better shit. I'd go in a room with four guys and say, "We're going in to write a hit. We're gonna stay in this fucking room until we do or until we can't stand each other's smell." And we would leave in seven hours with a fucking song. A- and a good one, and one that would live way past all of us. Check that shit out.

   25. JRJoe Rogan28:04

       What did it feel like when you, when you did have these dr- drunken, stoned moments when you came up with a song like Sweet Emotion or a riff or-

   26. STSteven Tyler28:12

       Mm.

   27. JRJoe Rogan28:12

       ... and then all of a sudden you're listening to it on the radio? How, how fucking surreal is that? What is that like?

   28. STSteven Tyler28:19

       I remember we used to go up to, um... first of all, most of our first stuff was recorded down in Hell's Kitchen, um, in New York at the Record Plant. You know, John Lennon had a studio upstairs and we were down in Studio A with Jack Douglas and, um... So we went from there for the '70s, and then end of the '70s, I had done every drug on the planet that I could 'cause I thought it was cool, and if I didn't, I wouldn't be cool, and those were the kind of people I hung out with. "You can't do that, dude. You ain't fucking shit, man." So, then you get early '80s, totally fubar, '84, '85, '86.

   29. JRJoe Rogan29:00

       What was '80s? Coke?

   30. STSteven Tyler29:01

       Uh, a lot of the hard stuff.
8. 30:08 – 36:41

   Origins of Aerosmith: Woodstock, Boston grind, and band chemistry

   1. STSteven Tyler30:08

      And she looked at me, and no one did before. Well, what's... no different than any other human. So then s- '65, '66, '67, Chain Reaction, '68, The Strangers, '69 was Woodstock. I went early and left three days later. I still have a Coca-Cola cooler. We, we... the day it was over, okay, we tried to start up the car and too much water got in the gas. We couldn't, couldn't get lost. And everybody left, and all their tents and all the sleeping bags were just left there-... hundreds of acres of tents. You... there's no pictures of it.

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:46

      (laughs)

   3. STSteven Tyler30:46

      I walked around, and I thought... You know, so I stole a Coke cooler, and I still have that to this day.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:50

      You still have it?

   5. STSteven Tyler30:51

      Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But it was a great-

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:53

      Was it from Coca-Cola? Like it was-

   7. STSteven Tyler30:54

      It was a Coca-Cola cooler-

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:55

      ... something that they left there, they were selling?

   9. STSteven Tyler30:55

      ... that you brought your shit in.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:56

       Oh.

   11. STSteven Tyler30:56

       You just, just, you know.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:58

       Right.

   13. STSteven Tyler30:58

       With a opener on the side, you know. But I remember walking down this path, it was called Groovie Way, and I stole, I stole this pa- banner off the trees, which we used for the, for Aerosmith in the beginning. I had these girls duplicate it, so it was, it was two guys looking at each other, you know, smoking a joint, and that was the Aerosmith thing in the beginning. But when I was at Woodstock, I'm walking down Groovie Way, and it was where Ken Kesey and the, the Magic... The Pranksters, they had all their buses. So I'm tripping on acid, and these helicopters are coming by with 500 pounds of hot dogs, and they're dropping them.

   14. JRJoe Rogan31:40

       (laughs)

   15. STSteven Tyler31:40

       They're dropping them in a field, and you hear this (banging) . And I shit you not. And then another giant pile of pots and pans to cook the hot dogs. I mean, it was a disaster area. Woodstock. You know this, right?

   16. JRJoe Rogan31:55

       Yeah.

   17. STSteven Tyler31:56

       Anyway, so I grab the pots and pans, and I started (banging) and some other guy walks over, and he's going (tapping) . Another guy comes over, and he starts doing this (tapping) . By the time I was done, an hour later, there was 50 people banging on every pot that was there.

   18. JRJoe Rogan32:19

       (laughs)

   19. STSteven Tyler32:20

       That was a moment. And then when I got up from that, tripping my ass off, I walked down a path, and walking towards me was one guy, and it was Joey Kramer, my drummer, who I knew from high school, but that I met there. Later on, to become... I was the drummer for Aerosmith in the beginning. So move forward now, '60, '70, all the bands have broke up. I went up to Sunapee, I was mowing the lawn at a place called Traurico, my family place, that I did my whole life. It's what I do. I'm a country boy. 360 acres that my Italian family bought that came over from Calabria in 19- 1890, five brothers that were musicians. So they worked in New York City. They made a little money. So for four grand, they bought 300 acres. So every year of my life, when I was born in fucking 1948...

   20. JRJoe Rogan33:14

       (laughs)

   21. STSteven Tyler33:15

       (clears throat) (laughs) I mean, it's like f- what... how f- ... You know, I know I was 70 couple months ago, but I feel like I just... When people would say that, it was like, "What?" My daught- my daughter, Chelsea would say, "It's a big one, Dad. You gotta stay here. We gotta celebrate it." And I, I... it's no... I have no concept of time. I feel like on one hand, I've lived 300 lives already, on the other, I feel like-

   22. JRJoe Rogan33:43

       It just happened.

   23. STSteven Tyler33:43

       ... how does that... what's that number?

   24. JRJoe Rogan33:45

       Right.

   25. STSteven Tyler33:45

       That's a fuck of a big number.

   26. JRJoe Rogan33:47

       Does it feel like it just happened?

   27. STSteven Tyler33:49

       Oh, it j- definitely.

   28. JRJoe Rogan33:50

       Like, you, you look back and think of, like, Aerosmith's first gigs and feel like, "God, that just feels like a couple a years ago."

   29. STSteven Tyler33:56

       A couple years ago. Couple years ago. One... That's the thing about Aerosmith. Okay, so we went up in Sunapee. He drove by in his MG and his glasses with white tape in the middle. I'm fucking telling you, man.

   30. JRJoe Rogan34:07

       (laughs)
9. 36:41 – 56:09

   Pro Tools, imperfection, and finding Aerosmith’s sound

   1. STSteven Tyler36:41

      And the fucking record... It was one of the first times...... musicians, when you get your shit put on, uh, Pro Tools and it gets fixed, it ain't you anymore.

   2. JRJoe Rogan36:50

      Right.

   3. STSteven Tyler36:50

      See, I'm from the old school where if you practice and get good, you're good.

   4. JRJoe Rogan36:53

      Right.

   5. STSteven Tyler36:54

      So, what you did at the Comedy Store the first time, you could do in your basement in front of your kids. Be just as good.

   6. JRJoe Rogan37:00

      So-

   7. STSteven Tyler37:01

      Don't you think?

   8. JRJoe Rogan37:01

      Yeah. So, Pro Tools-

   9. STSteven Tyler37:03

      (clears throat)

   10. JRJoe Rogan37:03

       ... for musicians, it's like they also-

   11. STSteven Tyler37:05

       It makes you good.

   12. JRJoe Rogan37:06

       Yeah.

   13. STSteven Tyler37:06

       It can, it can take your, your vocal and fix it.

   14. JRJoe Rogan37:09

       Right.

   15. STSteven Tyler37:10

       It can take your drums and put y- and, and, and fix it to a grid. (beatboxing)

   16. JRJoe Rogan37:12

       Does that bother you? Right.

   17. STSteven Tyler37:15

       Nah. Heck, what are you gonna do about it?

   18. JRJoe Rogan37:16

       But it does make the music sound better, but-

   19. STSteven Tyler37:19

       Yeah, but listen to Charlie Watts.

   20. JRJoe Rogan37:20

       Right, right.

   21. STSteven Tyler37:21

       He drags so beautifully, and, and, and Keith Richards.

   22. JRJoe Rogan37:24

       Well, that was my point. Like, is it, is there... there's something missing from that, right?

   23. STSteven Tyler37:27

       Well, yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan37:27

       Like, it's, the soul's gone.

   25. STSteven Tyler37:28

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan37:29

       'Cause now it's computerized.

   27. STSteven Tyler37:30

       (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan37:30

       And even though it's really good, it's still not the same as listening to James Brown.

   29. STSteven Tyler37:35

       Just think about this. Yeah, they got a new song, each band.

   30. JRJoe Rogan37:38

       Right, right.
10. 56:09 – 1:10:33

    American Idol: money, incentives, and not wanting to be the “mean judge”

    1. STSteven Tyler56:09

       When I took Idol, ka-ching.

    2. JRJoe Rogan56:12

       Started making some paper.

    3. STSteven Tyler56:13

       Get that paper. Fuck.

    4. JRJoe Rogan56:15

       Yeah. Is that why you did it?

    5. STSteven Tyler56:16

       Everybody made fun of me. And, but believe me-

    6. JRJoe Rogan56:18

       Did you do it just for the money?

    7. STSteven Tyler56:19

       No, but, but... No, I, you know why I did it?

    8. JRJoe Rogan56:23

       Why?

    9. STSteven Tyler56:23

       Because I thought nobody knew who I was. Everybody knows this guy. (knocks on table)

    10. JRJoe Rogan56:29

        Singing. Nobody knew he was a human.

    11. STSteven Tyler56:30

        And everybody knows this guy. (knocks on table)

    12. JRJoe Rogan56:33

        Oh.

    13. STSteven Tyler56:33

        And-

    14. JRJoe Rogan56:33

        So you wanted them to know you as a human?

    15. STSteven Tyler56:35

        My mom... My mom's passed away and she said, she said, "You know, you, they need to see that side of you."

    16. JRJoe Rogan56:41

        You as a person? But you decided-

    17. STSteven Tyler56:43

        She s-

    18. JRJoe Rogan56:43

        ... that American Idol was the best way to show that?

    19. STSteven Tyler56:45

        I thought I, I t- was the first thing was... What else was c- uh... I had no managers back then that had the good sense to offer me anything. I got the offer from Marty Fredericson. I got the-

    20. JRJoe Rogan56:58

        But how, how long ago was this? How long have you-

    21. STSteven Tyler56:59

        I don't know.

    22. JRJoe Rogan56:59

        ... you been on this for?

    23. STSteven Tyler57:00

        Uh, 2000, 2000... '10 and '11, '11 to '12. I got to sit next to J.Lo and Randy Jackson, that motherfucker.

    24. JRJoe Rogan57:12

        Mm.

    25. STSteven Tyler57:12

        What a beautiful guy. And J.Lo.

    26. JRJoe Rogan57:15

        J.Lo's beautiful too.

    27. STSteven Tyler57:16

        (inhales deeply) You know, what us men need, I think what everyone needs, is a word called incentive, right?

    28. JRJoe Rogan57:22

        Is it her ass?

    29. STSteven Tyler57:23

        It was her ass at the time.

    30. JRJoe Rogan57:24

        That is incentive.
11. 1:10:33 – 1:25:11

    Health, aging, and regenerative medicine: knees, shoulders, telomeres

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:10:33

       I had stem cell shots put my shoulder today.

    2. STSteven Tyler1:10:36

       Oh, come on.

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:10:37

       I'm very stiff. That's what it is, excellent.

    4. STSteven Tyler1:10:38

       Did you really?

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:10:39

       Yeah, both shoulders.

    6. STSteven Tyler1:10:39

       Did they take them out of here?

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:10:41

       No. There's some new process they do. I'm in, uh, serious pain right now.

    8. STSteven Tyler1:10:44

       Oh, man.

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:10:45

       That's why I'm shaking. Like watch, I could barely pick this up.

    10. STSteven Tyler1:10:48

        I, as you saw, I thought, "Fuck it's coffee. I'm doing it too."

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:10:50

        No, it's not the coffee.

    12. STSteven Tyler1:10:51

        Look.

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:10:52

        No.

    14. STSteven Tyler1:10:52

        One, two.

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:10:52

        Yeah.

    16. STSteven Tyler1:10:53

        I know it looks-

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:10:53

        If you just got me five hours ago-

    18. STSteven Tyler1:10:54

        Okay.

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:10:54

        ... I'd be moving like a, like-

    20. STSteven Tyler1:10:57

        Fuck.

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:10:57

        ... perfect something, like something smooth. I'll be okay in a day.

    22. STSteven Tyler1:11:00

        Yeah. What do I take for my feet? Uh, Gabapentin. Ga- yeah.

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:11:05

        What did you get?

    24. STSteven Tyler1:11:05

        Gabapentin.

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:11:06

        Gabapentin?

    26. STSteven Tyler1:11:06

        Gabapentin, it's a great drug.

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:11:08

        Oh.

    28. STSteven Tyler1:11:08

        It's not, you don't get high from it, but it kills the pain.

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:11:10

        This is to, uh, alleviate some shoulder tears. I have some tears, some tissues.

    30. STSteven Tyler1:11:14

        Look at the fucking size of you.

Episode duration: 2:04:38