Joe Rogan Experience #1117 - Tim Kennedy

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   I don't know if…

   1. TKTim Kennedy0:06

      I don't know if I can handle that.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:07

      What? The clock's wrong?

   3. TKTim Kennedy0:08

      No, does it ... I mean, just s- subtly. S- subtly.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      Are we live? Yeah. Yeah. One of 'em's wrong. Which one? Which one is it? I think they're both wrong. It's 12:11. That says-

   5. TKTim Kennedy0:18

      Oh, 15.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      ... that says 12:11. One says 12:15.

   7. TKTim Kennedy0:21

      It's 12:13 on my phone.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:22

      12:13.

   9. TKTim Kennedy0:23

      (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:23

       Yeah, so they're both wrong. This, this one says 12:14, that one says 12:11.

   11. TKTim Kennedy0:28

       This is averaging. And when I ... I wanna strap C4 to this, and this one I wanna spike-

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       (laughs)

   13. TKTim Kennedy0:30

       ... against the wall. Yeah, that's what I wanna do.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:32

       Are you OCD with time?

   15. TKTim Kennedy0:34

       Dude-

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       Or with everything?

   17. TKTim Kennedy0:35

       I ... With everything.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       Yeah?

   19. TKTim Kennedy0:36

       Yeah. Like, my reloading room is disgustingly perfect. And if I load the dishwasher, all the forks have to be symmetrical on one side, and the spoons have to be in the other. And all ... Like, all the mugs, the tall ones have to be on one side, and then like ... Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       What's that all about?

   21. TKTim Kennedy0:48

       I don't know. I, I think it came back to, um ...

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       Pull the sucker up to your face.

   23. TKTim Kennedy0:53

       The, uh ... When you c- ... When everything's the same and something's not the same, it's easy, it's easiest to see that way.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01

       Right.

   25. TKTim Kennedy1:01

       Right? So, like counterfeiting. Like, if you're, if you're buying a chick in ... A 13-year-old girl in Tijuana, and you're gonna wanna get the guy for counterfeit money and you wanna get him for human trafficking, um, and he starts handing you crappy bills, the easiest way to spit, spot the bills is to be able to see ... Have all of your proper bills all in the right order so the one that's fake is gonna stick out. And then you're like, "Oh, man, I'm gonna-"

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:25

       Only you would use that example. When you're going to Tijuana and someone's trafficking human slavery-

   27. TKTim Kennedy1:32

       But that's a good example.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:32

       ... with h- counterfeit money. It is a good example.

   29. TKTim Kennedy1:34

       Mm-hmm. Yeah. And if you have a 13-year-old girl with a bunch of 18-year-old girls, you can see the 13-year-old get a little, little bit easier.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:40

       Right.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   I've never done good…

   1. TKTim Kennedy15:00

      of what good elk tastes like in your mouth.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:03

      I've never done good coke or bad coke, so I don't know.

   3. TKTim Kennedy15:05

      Well, I've never done any coke. But judging from the amount of money that Pablo Escobar made and the way that people talked about it, um, and that how rich Medellín still is, I think it's pretty good stuff. Um, so I'm just u-

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:15

      There's, there's definitely a high demand.

   5. TKTim Kennedy15:17

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:17

      Yeah.

   7. TKTim Kennedy15:18

      Yeah. And there's this whole demand.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:18

      See, this is... The contrast, the, the contradiction would be like people who are animal rights lovers would be like, "You just talked about this majestic animal that you watched and you a- admired, and then you shot it and killed it."

   9. TKTim Kennedy15:29

      Yeah. God, it's beautiful.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:31

       You can-

   11. TKTim Kennedy15:31

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:32

       Yeah, I st- I still love it.

   13. TKTim Kennedy15:33

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:33

       I, I love every single ounce of it.

   15. TKTim Kennedy15:34

       (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:35

       I know, and I, I agree with you. But for people that are, you know, maybe animal rights activists or vegans-

   17. TKTim Kennedy15:40

       How many of them have ever been to... Not that I'm dogging on the cattle industry, 'cause I'm not. Uh, I, I think they try to do the best that they can with what they have to produce enough food to feed a huge ever-growing population. I mean, this is, this is a hard thing. Um, you ever been to one of those farms?

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:58

       I have. Yeah.

   19. TKTim Kennedy15:59

       Yeah. Um, I don't know how-

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:01

       I've been to good ones and I've been to bad ones.

   21. TKTim Kennedy16:03

       Mm-hmm.

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:03

       Yeah.

   23. TKTim Kennedy16:04

       I, I know how my, my animal died.

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:06

       Yeah.

   25. TKTim Kennedy16:06

       And it died fast, peacefully, right where it loved being. And, um, never felt anything, never saw anything. It just crumbled.

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:16

       Yeah. There's also the balance of life too. There, there's just... Unless you wanna bring wolves and more mountain lions into Texas and to wherever, you know, you're hunting-

   27. TKTim Kennedy16:25

       Well, they, they tried that. That's not, that's not working.

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:28

       Yeah. It's not working.

   29. TKTim Kennedy16:29

       The... No, they brought the wolves and now they're looking to hunters like me to come in to balance the wolves because the wolves, um, are decimating the herds, uh, to, to a degree that they've never seen ever because there's, there's no balance. There's nothing to balance the wolves.

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:43

       Right.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   I have an erection…

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      wolves and they were just roaming through the countryside, packs of 1,000 wolves.

   2. TKTim Kennedy30:03

      I have an erection now.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:04

      Whoo.

   4. TKTim Kennedy30:05

      ... yep.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:05

      C- curb it.

   6. TKTim Kennedy30:06

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:06

      Pull it back. Pull it back. Use your mind.

   8. TKTim Kennedy30:08

      (exhales) Okay.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:08

      Yeah. I mean, it- the- the- that conversation is the conversation where the vegans run into an ideological wall. Like what do you s- what do you say about that? You want to just let- live and let be?

   10. TKTim Kennedy30:18

       No.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:18

       Well, you're not gonna have any vegan food 'cause they eat vegan food. Okay?

   12. TKTim Kennedy30:21

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:21

       You're not gonna have any food. The pigs are gonna eat all your food.

   14. TKTim Kennedy30:24

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:24

       Unless you're growing your own food. And then the- what are you going to do if the pigs break your fences and eat your food and you don't have any food left?

   16. TKTim Kennedy30:29

       Oh, they break your fences?

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:30

       They do break your fences.

   18. TKTim Kennedy30:31

       They break your everything.

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:32

       They- they are big and they're powerful creatures and they decimate ground nesting birds, anything that's small.

   20. TKTim Kennedy30:39

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:39

       I mean, there's, there are some videos that we have from Texas of, uh, a big boar running away with an axis deer fawn in its mouth. I mean, they eat everything-

   22. TKTim Kennedy30:48

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:48

       ... they can. It's- they're, they're monsters.

   24. TKTim Kennedy30:51

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan30:51

       And they're delicious.

   26. TKTim Kennedy30:53

       Sell me one.

   27. JRJoe Rogan30:53

       I don't know about Texas ones.

   28. TKTim Kennedy30:54

       Sell me one.

   29. JRJoe Rogan30:54

       I've never had- I need to eat- I've eaten a couple California ones and they were fantastic.

   30. TKTim Kennedy30:57

       Yep. My- my dad, you know, he's in Monterey County. He, uh, he has his pig trough pig pond and he has a herd of pigs that come every night and the- I mean, I- I get- it's almost like a visceral response for me to watch my dad drive down in his four-wheeler and feed these things, where I'm like, "Oh no, Dad."
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      in order to harvest that grain. That's just a fact.

   2. TKTim Kennedy45:02

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:03

      It's just a fact. And it's an inconvenient fact that they like to look at, uh, with blinders on because they, they, you know, like, "I'm #crueltyfree." Not to that fucking bunny rabbit that's a part of your tofu-

   4. TKTim Kennedy45:16

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:16

      ... 'cause this is, this is what's really going on. I mean, a good part of the B, the vitamin B that a lot of vegans get is from ground up bugs that's ground up into their grain and ground up into their vegetables. I mean, this is, you, y- this is just... You can't get aw- around that.

   6. TKTim Kennedy45:32

      No. I mean, no- not if you are being real. If you're not, if you're being-

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:39

      No, if you're being real, yeah.

   8. TKTim Kennedy45:39

      And that, and maybe that, that's the problem in the first place, is nobody is gonna have the courage to come into that middle ground and let, let go of all of their baggage and all of their bullshit.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:52

      Yeah.

   10. TKTim Kennedy45:53

       And just-

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:53

       If you're cool with eating bugs, you should eat crickets. Get cricket meal. Eat cricket protein. It's fucking good for you.

   12. TKTim Kennedy45:59

       (laughs) Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:59

       If you don't wanna eat animals, you're like, "I'm just not into anything that's warm," okay. I have a friend who only eats fish. And I go, "Why?" He goes, "Fish don't even take care of their babies." I was like, "Ooh."

   14. TKTim Kennedy46:09

       Oh.

   15. JRJoe Rogan46:09

       "Good point."

   16. TKTim Kennedy46:10

       That is a good point.

   17. JRJoe Rogan46:11

       Fuck those fish.

   18. TKTim Kennedy46:12

       Fish are yummy too.

   19. JRJoe Rogan46:13

       Yeah. He's like, "I don't wanna kill a mammal," he goes, "I don't wanna eat a mammal." He's like, "Mammals take care of their babies. Their, their babies milk from their w- their," you know, "Their udders." I'm like, "Okay, I get it."

   20. TKTim Kennedy46:21

       My wife was a pescatarian for a while. Um, that didn't, that didn't last.

   21. JRJoe Rogan46:27

       It's just not the best source of, source of nutrients.

   22. TKTim Kennedy46:30

       No. Well, it was when she's pregnant and the doctor's like, "All right, so you're 90 pounds."

   23. JRJoe Rogan46:35

       Whoa.

   24. TKTim Kennedy46:35

       "And, uh, I need you to put on, like, 20 more pounds really fast. And you're not gonna do it eating halibut," (laughs) you know?

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:44

       Yeah.

   26. TKTim Kennedy46:44

       So, and her iron was low.

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:46

       Yeah. Iron, B12, I mean, all the fat soluble vitamins that are very difficult to get from plants-

   28. TKTim Kennedy46:52

       This is a great chair.

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:52

       They're very good.

   30. TKTim Kennedy46:53

       Yeah.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:14:39

   Holy shit. …

   1. TKTim Kennedy1:00:00

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      Holy shit.

   3. TKTim Kennedy1:00:01

      (laughs) Yeah. Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:02

      (laughs) A few hundred thousand-

   5. TKTim Kennedy1:00:04

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:04

      ... descendants of Nazis?

   7. TKTim Kennedy1:00:06

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:06

      Wow.

   9. TKTim Kennedy1:00:07

      Yeah. And man, it's weird when you walk into somebody's parlor and it's like you're stepping back in time into Europe. Like I'm walking in ... It's, it's 2017 and I'm walking in Buenos Aires, Argentina into somebody's parlor and all of the tile is European and all of the style and all the art is very German, you know? We, we have like deers and, you know, like not s- ... Not like red stags. I ... We're talking German everything, things that Hitler loved. And that's the style and that's everything. And then they come out and like with white gloves, they're holding their grandpa, their grandfather's, um, memory box and inside of it are his war medals from-... you know, when he was in the SS. Or when he was...

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:54

       (exhales)

   11. TKTim Kennedy1:00:55

       And it is the respect, the, uh, I don't even know. The right-

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:01:01

       Reverence?

   13. TKTim Kennedy1:01:02

       Yeah. I mean, it's like whole ... Like, it's the po- It's like, this is a gift from the Pope that they're holding in their hands.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:01:07

       (laughs)

   15. TKTim Kennedy1:01:07

       White gloves. No, I can't ... Fir- first of all, Tim can't touch it. That's ... But I can appreciate it. And then, they tell me the story of every single one of these things and how he got there, and how he then went and worked for the Buenos Aries News. And-

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:01:19

       You can't touch anything?

   17. TKTim Kennedy1:01:20

       No, they wouldn't ... No, 'cause I can ...

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:01:22

       Well, you'll ... You're dirty.

   19. TKTim Kennedy1:01:22

       I'm dirty.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:01:23

       Dirty American.

   21. TKTim Kennedy1:01:23

       Look at all these ... This is what it is.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:01:25

       You're too brown.

   23. TKTim Kennedy1:01:26

       Yeah. (sniffs) Fuck, man.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:28

       Man.

   25. TKTim Kennedy1:01:28

       So, we followed ... The first two seasons, it was really just unraveling the rumors of what happened to Hitler. The third season was my favorite because I actually got to do real work. They said, "Okay." I got to the second season, I got to bring in more special forces guys, um, a CIA targeter, Nadia, um, who helped my unit kill Zarqawi in 2006. That this is the team that is now looking at real evidence, trying to figure out, "Okay, how did we find bin Laden? How did we find Zakar ... Zarqawi?" We looked at their associates and we looked at how they moved. We looked at how they communicated. We looked at what routes they were using to get to and from places, and then we just started tightening the noose. And that's exactly what we did in this third season was, "Okay, let's start following the Adolf Eichmanns. Let's start following the Josef Mengeles. And let's start following the Skarzynskis." Um, Hitler's personal bodyguard that was a colonel in the SS that went on to work for everybody after the war, fighting. I mean, fascists do not like communists, so this guy was working for everybody, to include the CIA, fighting fascism in South America, or fighting communism as a fascist in South America in the '50s, '60s and '70s.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:02:45

       Whoa.

   27. TKTim Kennedy1:02:46

       Creepy stuff.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:02:47

       Whoa.

   29. TKTim Kennedy1:02:48

       Yeah. So-

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:02:50

       So-

Episode duration: 2:52:51