Joe Rogan Experience #1125 - Candace Owens

1. 0:00 – 4:52

   Outrage culture, cancel mobs, and the internet’s short memory

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      ... four, three, two, one. Boom, and we're live. Candace Owens, how you doing?

   2. COCandace Owens0:08

      I'm good. How are you?

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:09

      I'm d- I'm very good.

   4. COCandace Owens0:10

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:10

      Thank you. Thank you for asking. There's a lot of, lot of controversy these days, Candace.

   6. COCandace Owens0:14

      I guess.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      Little bit?

   8. COCandace Owens0:15

      In, in the Twitter-verse.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      In the world.

   10. COCandace Owens0:17

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:17

       Just everybody's, uh, excited about being outraged.

   12. COCandace Owens0:19

       Yeah, exactly. That's exactly right. There's controversy every five seconds.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:23

       You know, I had a guy on before, the guy that you just met, uh, Dr. Robert Schoch, he's a geologist from Boston University, and he is a, a part of this, uh, backdating of the ancient, uh, the history of Egypt. And they're talking about, you know, all these different structures that might be thousands and thousands of years older than people think they are. And one of the things that he's working on is that there was coronal mass ejections from the sun somewhere around 10,000 years ago that basically killed off a giant percentage of the population on the planet. Lightning storms millions of times greater than anything we've ever experienced before, that literally was like lightning coming down like rain, barbecuing the ground, killing people, people forced into caves, civilization resets. (slaps table) It's almost like we need something like that-

   14. COCandace Owens1:09

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:09

       ... to really be upset about.

   16. COCandace Owens1:11

       I know.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:11

       Because instead of being upset about Roseanne or Samantha Bee-

   18. COCandace Owens1:14

       It's unbelievable, yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:15

       Or, "Samantha Bee used the C-word today."

   20. COCandace Owens1:16

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:16

       "That naughty girl."

   22. COCandace Owens1:18

       (laughs) Yes, it's just outrage culture.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:20

       Yeah.

   24. COCandace Owens1:20

       I say everyone should just wait like 48 hours if everybody hates you and then they'll be on-

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:25

       Yeah.

   26. COCandace Owens1:25

       ... to the next person that they have to hate.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:26

       Yeah, well, that's one of the cool things about the internet, is the-

   28. COCandace Owens1:29

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:29

       ... the cycle. Boy, it hits you hard, but then it goes back pretty quick.

   30. COCandace Owens1:32

       Really fast, yes.
2. 4:52 – 12:09

   Ambien stories and Candace’s choice to stop drinking

   1. JRJoe Rogan4:52

      She's on Ambien.

   2. COCandace Owens4:53

      It's not enough.

   3. JRJoe Rogan4:53

      She's, she's taken all kinds of antidepressants.

   4. COCandace Owens4:56

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan4:56

      She's drinking. She's fucked out of her head.

   6. COCandace Owens4:58

      No.

   7. JRJoe Rogan4:58

      Like my mom, uh, took Ambien, and she just told me about this today. I forgot. I forgot about this story, 'cause I was telling her this story about another friend of mine on the podcast yesterday, I talked about how a friend of mine got on Ambien, made a full meal, cooked it, ate it, went to sleep, got up in the morning, and had zero recollection of it.

   8. COCandace Owens5:17

      That's really real.

   9. JRJoe Rogan5:18

      Was in total denial of it. It happens.

   10. COCandace Owens5:19

       That's 100% real.

   11. JRJoe Rogan5:20

       And my, my mom told me that she went to bed, got up in the morning, and she had got up and put red lipstick and-

   12. COCandace Owens5:28

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan5:28

       ... and, um, uh, and nail polish all over the white bathroom carpet, those little-

   14. COCandace Owens5:34

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan5:34

       ... those shag carpets. She just painted on it like a child.

   16. COCandace Owens5:38

       No, Ambien's-

   17. JRJoe Rogan5:38

       She had zero recollection of it.

   18. COCandace Owens5:40

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan5:40

       So like this is scary shit. Like she just-

   20. COCandace Owens5:42

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan5:42

       ... painted like a little kid would, like a two-year-old would get ahold of your lipstick and start drawing on the walls.

   22. COCandace Owens5:46

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan5:46

       She did that on this shag carpet.

   24. COCandace Owens5:48

       Ambien is just like Sleepwalk.

   25. JRJoe Rogan5:49

       Yeah.

   26. COCandace Owens5:49

       Like it instantly brings you into Sleepwalk and you can do anything when-

   27. JRJoe Rogan5:52

       Yeah.

   28. COCandace Owens5:52

       ... you're on Ambien. I, I had a bunch of colle- college friends who used to do Ambien and like bizarre stories would just come out. I'm like very anti-pills. I don't take anything.

   29. JRJoe Rogan6:01

       Nothin'?

   30. COCandace Owens6:01

       Nothing at all. No-
3. 12:09 – 12:57

   How Candace became a prominent conservative voice (YouTube + “red pill” study year)

   1. JRJoe Rogan12:09

      So how did you become this... Y- y- you're a very popular, what I would call conservative thinker.

   2. COCandace Owens12:16

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan12:16

      But you're very young.

   4. COCandace Owens12:17

      I am.

   5. JRJoe Rogan12:17

      Like, how did this all happen? How did you become this Fox News personality conservative thinker?

   6. COCandace Owens12:22

      Yeah, I mean, I just, like, launched a YouTube channel and...

   7. JRJoe Rogan12:26

      Oh, fucking YouTube.

   8. COCandace Owens12:27

      Yeah, YouTube, where, where magic happens.

   9. JRJoe Rogan12:30

      (laughs)

   10. COCandace Owens12:30

       YouTube's a strange place to be a thinker.

   11. JRJoe Rogan12:31

       It's as strange as it gets.

   12. COCandace Owens12:32

       Just another strange place, yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan12:33

       Well, it's the internet, and the internet's-

   14. COCandace Owens12:35

       It's the internet.

   15. JRJoe Rogan12:35

       ... as strange as it gets.

   16. COCandace Owens12:36

       Yeah, strange things happen on the internet. But yeah, I just kind of... I was really passionate. Um, I understood... I had studied for, like... It sounds strange, but, like, I spent a year underground, like, studying politics once I had my red pill moment, if that's what you wanna call it.

   17. JRJoe Rogan12:50

       Well, explain that, because you used to be a liberal.

   18. COCandace Owens12:53

       Right.

   19. JRJoe Rogan12:53

       And then you became a conservative.

   20. COCandace Owens12:55

       That's correct.

   21. JRJoe Rogan12:56

       So what was it?

4. 12:57 – 18:51

   High school hate-crime voicemails, media frenzy, and labels that don’t heal

   1. COCandace Owens12:57

      So, the story, like, really starts with, like, high school, I guess. Like, there, w- you know how things can happen to you in life and they don't make sense when they happen? You're like-

   2. JRJoe Rogan13:04

      Mm-hmm.

   3. COCandace Owens13:04

      ... "Why, God, me?" And then, like, you get a little older, and you're like, "This makes perfect sense."

   4. JRJoe Rogan13:08

      Right.

   5. COCandace Owens13:08

      So I was the, quote unquote, "victim" of a hate crime when I was in high school.

   6. JRJoe Rogan13:13

      When you say, quote unquote, "victim," you don't think you're a victim?

   7. COCandace Owens13:15

      'Cause I hate the word vic- no, I hate the word victim. And it's, I'm like ... And again, early, I can see why early on I've sort of developed this mentality that, like, being a vi- there's no value in being a victim, and people rush to call people a victim. They rush to call somebody the aggressor.

   8. JRJoe Rogan13:27

      Okay, so how do you describe it, that you experienced a hate crime?

   9. COCandace Owens13:29

      I experienced something that was labeled a hate crime. I w- I wouldn't even call it a hate crime. I think we live in a label obsessed culture, and before we seek to understand what happened, we seek to, like ...

   10. JRJoe Rogan13:39

       Put it in a box.

   11. COCandace Owens13:39

       Yeah, like-

   12. JRJoe Rogan13:40

       So what, what happened?

   13. COCandace Owens13:41

       ... someone has to be a demon, and someone has to be an angel.

   14. JRJoe Rogan13:43

       Right.

   15. COCandace Owens13:43

       So what happened was I received some voicemail messages from about four kids and the, like, you know, the language was ... It was pretty strong. It was like, "We're gonna tar and feather your family. Um, we're gonna put a bullet in the back of your head like we did to Martin Luther King." Like, you know, N-word, N-word, N-word. Um-

   16. JRJoe Rogan14:00

       And you received these on your phone?

   17. COCandace Owens14:01

       On my cellphone, yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan14:03

       How'd they get your phone number?

   19. COCandace Owens14:04

       Exa- well, there was a prank phone call, so I didn't know. It was, like, four male voices, and I was, like, in high school at the time, and I was like, "Okay, like, I cannot think of four human beings that want me dead that would say, like-"

   20. JRJoe Rogan14:12

       Right.

   21. COCandace Owens14:12

       ... "We're gonna put a bullet in the back of your head like we did to Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks." Like, naming off-

   22. JRJoe Rogan14:17

       Where'd you go to school? Where were you ... what part of the country?

   23. COCandace Owens14:19

       Stanford High School, in Connecticut.

   24. JRJoe Rogan14:21

       Okay, that's a shithole.

   25. COCandace Owens14:22

       Yeah, yeah, it's a total shithole.

   26. JRJoe Rogan14:23

       I hate Connecticut.

   27. COCandace Owens14:24

       Yeah, no, I ... Because Connecticut's not a shithole.

   28. JRJoe Rogan14:26

       (laughs) It's a running joke, I'm sorry.

   29. COCandace Owens14:28

       Yeah. (laughs) Right.

   30. JRJoe Rogan14:28

       I always shit on Connecticut. I have my buddy, Tommy Jr., he lives in Connecticut.
5. 18:51 – 24:13

   Aftermath: anorexia, control, and debating whether words make someone a racist forever

   1. COCandace Owens18:51

      So it was this situation that, like, was just completely out of my control and then as quick as it hap- these kids got arrested and then as quick as it happened, it was over, um, for like everyone, but not for me or these kids, right?

   2. JRJoe Rogan19:03

      Right.

   3. COCandace Owens19:03

      Like, so I never wanted these kids to get arrested. Like if no one... Like it, this whole situation was taken out of my hands. People thought, I didn't go to the police. Like my teacher went to the police, it turned into the zoo. These kids were labeled publicly racists, right? The youngest kid in the car was 14. I'm not comfortable with ever labeling a 14-year-old racist, right? Or any of these kids racist. These are kids and in my opinion, adults that failed to act like adults. Ad- uh, adults that failed to take a step back and say, "Okay. Why would, what would prompt these kids to do this? Why is it so easy to be mean," right? Why is it so easy nowadays for children to be mean. And no one, to me, like when I really thought about that, I, I went through like five years of like anorexia af- because of the situation.

   4. JRJoe Rogan19:43

      Because of that one call.

   5. COCandace Owens19:44

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan19:44

      Those few phone calls.

   7. COCandace Owens19:45

      And I was the victim. Yeah. And-

   8. JRJoe Rogan19:46

      Wow.

   9. COCandace Owens19:47

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan19:48

       You went through anorexia?

   11. COCandace Owens19:49

       Yeah, which is so weird now because like people that know me now are like, "There's no way. You never didn't eat." But I did, I did like, did not eat for like five years. I had issues with anorexia because anorexia is a disease that genuinely is about control.

   12. JRJoe Rogan20:03

       Right.

   13. COCandace Owens20:03

       It's about asserting control of your life and I felt that I had my, like my life was fine and then like s- people took the narrative, um, uh, and decided to determine what the narrative was. You're an, you're, you're a victim or maybe you're a liar. You know, you're, these kids are racist, these kids are this, and just nobody really thought that like, you actually ruined all of our lives, right? Like for a little bit. Like these kids went on to have like DUIs and get arrested and got into drugs and it was because-

   14. JRJoe Rogan20:28

       'Cause of the pressure-

   15. COCandace Owens20:29

       ... of this outrage.

   16. JRJoe Rogan20:29

       ... of everything that happened.

   17. COCandace Owens20:30

       Yeah, and I was like, would've been totally cool with an apology, like (laughs) you know what I mean?

   18. JRJoe Rogan20:35

       Yeah.

   19. COCandace Owens20:36

       Like, "Sorry."

   20. JRJoe Rogan20:37

       Well good for you for looking at it that way.

   21. COCandace Owens20:39

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan20:39

       I mean, as that's hard to do because everybody loves when they are allowed to get outraged. Everybody loves to get outraged. Obviously what they did to you was horrible.

   23. COCandace Owens20:46

       Right.

   24. JRJoe Rogan20:46

       But I think a lot of kids, especially if they're drinking, they don't even understand how stupid and gross it is what they're doing. They just know they can do it.

   25. COCandace Owens20:53

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan20:54

       And they get a thrill out of it and then there's that mob mentality when there's like a bunch of people together doing the same thing.

   27. COCandace Owens20:59

       Yeah, exactly.

   28. JRJoe Rogan21:00

       And they ramp it up and start saying crazy shit.

   29. COCandace Owens21:01

       It's really understandable when you just like think about it as a human being and not as somebody who has to have opinion. Like you're like, "Hey, we're gonna call this Black girl," right? "You've got a bunch of kids. We're gonna just say mean things to her on the phone and you don't have to look her in the face," right?

   30. JRJoe Rogan21:14

       Right.
6. 24:13 – 26:32

   Double standards in scandal: political tribes, celebrity immunity, and media framing

   1. JRJoe Rogan24:13

      But then there's people that like, like what did Samantha Bee say today? She called Ivanka a cunt.

   2. COCandace Owens24:19

      Oh. Uh, yeah, yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan24:19

      (laughs)

   4. COCandace Owens24:19

      Exactly. Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan24:20

      What happens there? Think she gets in trouble? I bet she doesn't.

   6. COCandace Owens24:23

      She's not gonna get in trouble.

   7. JRJoe Rogan24:24

      I bet she doesn't-

   8. COCandace Owens24:24

      She's not.

   9. JRJoe Rogan24:24

      ... 'cause she, this is, is left wing. She's-

   10. COCandace Owens24:26

       Yeah, she's left wing. It's okay.

   11. JRJoe Rogan24:27

       Like Keith Olbermann.

   12. COCandace Owens24:27

       It's a safe space to say sorry on the left.

   13. JRJoe Rogan24:29

       Have you seen some of the shit that Keith Olbermann has said about Trump?

   14. COCandace Owens24:31

       And he got a job at ESPN. It's-

   15. JRJoe Rogan24:32

       Yeah.

   16. COCandace Owens24:33

       They don't care.

   17. JRJoe Rogan24:34

       There are fucking so many tweets that he put out that are crazy calling Trump a Nazi and fuck you and-

   18. COCandace Owens24:40

       Right. Think about like what people say-

   19. JRJoe Rogan24:42

       (laughs)

   20. COCandace Owens24:42

       ... about like Ben Carson and, and Black conservatives.

   21. JRJoe Rogan24:45

       Yes.

   22. COCandace Owens24:45

       We get called... Ben Carson was literally called a porch monkey.

   23. JRJoe Rogan24:48

       Mm-hmm.

   24. COCandace Owens24:48

       You know, and that's totally fine. He's Black. It doesn't matter. They, they've s- like created this system-

   25. JRJoe Rogan24:53

       Who called him a por- but who is it that did it though?

   26. COCandace Owens24:54

       I have to look it up.

   27. JRJoe Rogan24:54

       It wasn't like a famous person.

   28. COCandace Owens24:56

       No, it was a famous person.

   29. JRJoe Rogan24:57

       What?

   30. COCandace Owens24:57

       Absolutely called him a porch monkey.
7. 26:32 – 31:49

   Candace’s Chelsea Handler tweet, the “childless women” backlash, and purpose-by-outrage

   1. COCandace Owens26:32

      I hate the idea that you can't say something. Like, they were literally ... I mean, everyone piled in. Every celebrity under the sun piled in when I tweeted a couple of weeks ago that I was having a conversation. I don't know if you saw this. I was like, "I was having a conversation at lunch." Um, 'cause I've just been observing Chelsea Handler. I just think she's a weird person. Like, I don't know what happened because I used to really like her, like, you know, 10 years ago.

   2. JRJoe Rogan26:52

      That's when you were liberal.

   3. COCandace Owens26:53

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan26:54

      Oh.

   5. COCandace Owens26:54

      But, like, when sh- but when she was ... I had her show. Like, she was not politically correct. I mean, I don't know if anybody remembers the show Chelsea Lately.

   6. JRJoe Rogan27:00

      Yeah.

   7. COCandace Owens27:00

      But she was making fun of everybody. And now, with the era of Trump, she's like ... Something's weird. So-

   8. JRJoe Rogan27:06

      Well, she's getting older, and I think she wants to be an activist now, and I think she's looking for more meaning and importance in life.

   9. COCandace Owens27:11

      Because she doesn't have a family or children, and I s- I tweet that.

   10. JRJoe Rogan27:15

       Oh, you tweeted that?

   11. COCandace Owens27:16

       I tweeted that.

   12. JRJoe Rogan27:17

       Ooh.

   13. COCandace Owens27:17

       (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan27:17

       I was gonna not say that. I was gonna not say that.

   15. COCandace Owens27:19

       But it's true.

   16. JRJoe Rogan27:19

       I know, but I was trying to be nice.

   17. COCandace Owens27:19

       So I tweet that. I'm like, I'm like, "I'm talking to, like, a friend at lunch." I was. And, uh, we were talking about, like, why some of these, like, older women have just gone bonkers. And, you know, my friend made a comment. She's like, "If you don't, like, use your eggs, they scramble." Like, just saying, like, these really crazy-

   18. JRJoe Rogan27:34

       Oh, shit!

   19. COCandace Owens27:36

       That, my friend said, but I didn't even tweet that.

   20. JRJoe Rogan27:37

       Your friend-

   21. COCandace Owens27:38

       I didn't tweet that.

   22. JRJoe Rogan27:39

       Th- your friend should put that shit on a T-shirt.

   23. COCandace Owens27:40

       I know. It's really funny. "If you don't use your eggs, they scramble." So I was, like, cracking up.

   24. JRJoe Rogan27:43

       Damn.

   25. COCandace Owens27:43

       I know. It's, uh, but there's something there, right? It's, it's, it, uh ... There's something there. It's not politically correct, but I observe the pattern of Kathy Griffin. I observe the pattern of Chelsea Handler and Sarah Silverman on the fence. Not as bad, but in that neighborhood. So I tweet out, "Do you think there's something associated, like, between, like, women who don't have children and they need something to nurture and foster and try to raise?" And in this sense, it's society. Like, they are just trying to parent the hell out of society. And, and-

   26. JRJoe Rogan28:08

       Do you think Sarah does that?

   27. COCandace Owens28:09

       Sarah goes back and forth.

   28. JRJoe Rogan28:10

       She doesn't seem-

   29. COCandace Owens28:10

       Right.

   30. JRJoe Rogan28:10

       She seems mean.
8. 31:49 – 35:31

   Ben Shapiro spat, Kim Kardashian’s clemency work, and prison reform as a priority

   1. JRJoe Rogan31:49

      Ooh.

   2. COCandace Owens31:49

      ... you know, like y- this morning or yesterday, like, Ben Shapiro and I got into, like, a little spat. And we actually like each other, but, like, I just-

   3. JRJoe Rogan31:55

      What'd you guys get in a spat about?

   4. COCandace Owens31:56

      I just, I'm genuinely annoyed by his behavior online. Like, I, it's genuinely-

   5. JRJoe Rogan31:59

      Really?

   6. COCandace Owens31:59

      Yeah, I just find him to be, like, like... And by the way, I like him. Like, that's the thing that's bizarre is, like, I think people think there's much more, like, hate between us and there isn't. It's, like, not. It's just, like, genuinely, like, I read a tweet he sent, I'm like, "Dude, just shut, shut up." You know what I mean?

   7. JRJoe Rogan32:09

      What did he say? What did he say that made you s-

   8. COCandace Owens32:11

      It's just, like, the little, like, petty things that he throws at Trump sometimes that are so unnecessary. And, like, he just-

   9. JRJoe Rogan32:16

      Oh, you're sticking up for Trump?

   10. COCandace Owens32:16

       He reminds me... Well, no, it's not even Trump. It's, like, he, like... Kim Kardashian goes to, you know, get Alice Marie Johnson, like, she's been fighting for this for years. She put all of her money into a, a legal team to do this, like, and that's not the only case she's been working on, like, actually trying to help these people get clemency. And she takes a picture and he's, like, he says something just very Ben Shapiro-y. It was like, "We should not be worshiping celeb-" But I don't think he's worshiping a c- taking a meeting with Kim Kardashian is not worshiping a celebrity. These are, that's a little extreme of an analysis, um, for a meeting. And the picture is taken, like, you know, I visited the president, there's a full-time photographer and every person that meets with the president, you get a picture in the, in the Oval Office. It's, like, a part of the system. Um, and yeah, so I was just like, "Dude, shut up." Like, you know? Like, I didn't say, "Shut up," but I said, like... Essentially.

   11. JRJoe Rogan33:00

       Well, he's got a good point in a way. We really shouldn't be worshiping celebrity for the sake of celebrity. And especially reality show celebrity.

   12. COCandace Owens33:08

       Right.

   13. JRJoe Rogan33:08

       I mean, it doesn't mean that she couldn't have a very valid point about-

   14. COCandace Owens33:11

       That's it.

   15. JRJoe Rogan33:11

       ... about prison reform.

   16. COCandace Owens33:12

       Yeah. That's what I'm saying, though. That's what I'm saying.

   17. JRJoe Rogan33:14

       Yeah.

   18. COCandace Owens33:14

       She wasn't like, he, I think he said something like, "We shouldn't allow celebrities to shape policy." She didn't go there to shape policy.

   19. JRJoe Rogan33:20

       Hmm.

   20. COCandace Owens33:20

       She literally had a case-

   21. JRJoe Rogan33:22

       Right.

   22. COCandace Owens33:22

       ... that she's been trying to get pardoned. And the only person that can do that-

   23. JRJoe Rogan33:24

       Right.

   24. COCandace Owens33:24

       ... happens to be President Donald Trump.

   25. JRJoe Rogan33:26

       And it's actually, you know, what she's trying to do is actually very honorable.

   26. COCandace Owens33:29

       That's what I said.

   27. JRJoe Rogan33:30

       She really believes it.

   28. COCandace Owens33:30

       I said, listen, like, and she, and she's been working on it for a year. Like, she's actually into this now. Like, she's into this, like, prison reform. And I'm passionate about it, like, I grew up seeing my uncles in prison. So, like, for me, the only time that I, like, snap back at anyone is if it's something that I care about. And obviously, like, I'm, I really am passionate about Black America. I'm really passionate about the changes that could happen for Black America, and prison reform is something I'm really passionate about. So, I've been observing, like, how hard Jared Kushner's been working on this, how hard Ivanka has been working on this, and have really understood what they're trying to do. Like, you know, I went to the, the prison reform summit a cou- like, you know, a month ago, and, and Kim in this... She doesn't even, like, agree with Trump on a lot of stuff. She's thrown, you know, some shade at him, but this is something, this Alice Marie Johnson case she was doing before Trump got into office.

   29. JRJoe Rogan34:10

       You know what I love about the picture of her and him?

   30. COCandace Owens34:11

       What?
9. 35:31 – 49:16

   Award-show activism, virtue signaling, and Marlon Brando as a turning point

   1. COCandace Owens35:31

      Which is good. All of that stuff, like, when they do stuff like that, it's great and it's honorable. But, like, the stuff that I hate that celebrities do and what I, which I differentiate from, and I guess this confuses people, is when they just give their opinion.

   2. JRJoe Rogan35:42

      Mm-hmm.

   3. COCandace Owens35:42

      Like, we, you know... At, like, the Emmys and they're on stage just, like, teaching all of us about how wrong, you know, our opinions are. It's like, I don't need this celebrity grandstanding.

   4. JRJoe Rogan35:50

      Yeah.

   5. COCandace Owens35:51

      Like, you know, if there's an issue you care about other than the fact that people disagree with you, then sure, do that. If you care about, like, Ashton Kutcher going after sex trafficking, celebrate that. That's cool. Like, Kim Kardashian going o- over, um, after crime justice reform, celebrate that. That's cool. But when you get these celebrities that just get up there and, and try to deliver a tear jer- it's like, shut up. Literally nobody cares what you think. Like...

   6. JRJoe Rogan36:11

      This... Well, they care enough that that person's got that platform and they feel like this is their opportunity to say something significant.

   7. COCandace Owens36:18

      Right. I'm like, "Can we just go back to, like, thanking God?"

   8. JRJoe Rogan36:19

      And, and also, like, they're vo- they're for sure 100% virtue signaling.

   9. COCandace Owens36:23

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan36:23

       100%.

   11. COCandace Owens36:24

       I hate that.

   12. JRJoe Rogan36:24

       Letting everybody know how moral and ethical they are. Even if they are. I mean, this is just... Those fucking award shows are weird as shit.

   13. COCandace Owens36:32

       They're weird.

   14. JRJoe Rogan36:33

       It's weird.

   15. COCandace Owens36:33

       They're weird.

   16. JRJoe Rogan36:33

       You should go up there and you should say, "Thank you. Thanks a lot. This is awesome."

   17. COCandace Owens36:39

       "Thank God. Thank you. Thank you to the man upstairs."

   18. JRJoe Rogan36:41

       "Yeah. Thank you, Odin. Thank you, Thor."

   19. COCandace Owens36:42

       Right. Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan36:43

       "Uh, thanks to my producer."

   21. COCandace Owens36:43

       Remember that? Remember the days when they used to do that?

   22. JRJoe Rogan36:45

       Yeah.

   23. COCandace Owens36:45

       Yeah, they used to say a couple of names of producers-

   24. JRJoe Rogan36:47

       Yeah.

   25. COCandace Owens36:47

       ... come up with a little piece of paper and then they used to always thank the man upstairs.

   26. JRJoe Rogan36:50

       "Yo, what's up?"

   27. COCandace Owens36:50

       And they used to go down. Now, they have, like, like the face and the emotion.

   28. JRJoe Rogan36:54

       You know who did it?

   29. COCandace Owens36:55

       Who started this?

   30. JRJoe Rogan36:55

       You know who started it off?
10. 49:16 – 1:02:45

    Trump’s likability vs. media splicing, “fake news,” and why Obama felt inauthentic to Candace

    1. COCandace Owens49:16

       It's, it's, it's ... that's, that's why Jake Tapper jumps into a tweet about Chelsea Handler and tries to correlate Trump. It's like they're obsessed with people that, um-... like Trump. I like Trump. I don't know what else to say. I like the guy. I think he's really funny.

    2. JRJoe Rogan49:28

       I took a photo of Jake Tapper on the news the day of the election. We did a comedy s-... We did a podcast from The Comedy Store. Uh, we, we call it the End of the World Podcast, where b-... A, a bunch of people... 'Cause we're like, "Whoever the fuck wins, it's the end of the world." Right?

    3. COCandace Owens49:41

       (laughs)

    4. JRJoe Rogan49:42

       So (laughs) we had this live podcast.

    5. COCandace Owens49:44

       That's so funny.

    6. JRJoe Rogan49:44

       And, uh, I went into the, the green room afterwards, to the comedians' bar, and Jake Tapper was on TV, and he was so bummed out. And I took a photo of him, like him on the screen. You could tell-

    7. COCandace Owens49:55

       Just like s-... Yeah, like the sadness. I remember his face. He was, he was really sad. He was like a sad puppy.

    8. JRJoe Rogan49:59

       He was d-... Do you see if you can find it? It's f-

    9. COCandace Owens50:00

       Oh my God, it's really funny.

    10. JRJoe Rogan50:02

        He was so bummed out.

    11. COCandace Owens50:03

        I think Mike Cernovich did the best like s-... Like, he spliced together, like, all the clips of just like... It was exceptional, the news anchors and the emotion that was coming out of them. Uh, h- he did some like, um-

    12. JRJoe Rogan50:12

        But the crazy thing is all of them that said he'll never win.

    13. COCandace Owens50:15

        I know.

    14. JRJoe Rogan50:15

        He'll never win.

    15. COCandace Owens50:15

        And now we have that forever.

    16. JRJoe Rogan50:17

        It's never... Yeah. (laughs)

    17. COCandace Owens50:17

        Right? You know, it's forever.

    18. JRJoe Rogan50:19

        Well, now-

    19. COCandace Owens50:19

        They laughed. They laughed.

    20. JRJoe Rogan50:20

        Yeah.

    21. COCandace Owens50:20

        I remember there was a moment where like Ann Coulter... They said, "So who do you have winning?" And she says, "Donald Trump." And they broke into laughter-

    22. JRJoe Rogan50:26

        Ha, ha, ha, impossible.

    23. COCandace Owens50:26

        ... like the cool kids, yeah, the cool kids-

    24. JRJoe Rogan50:29

        Yeah.

    25. COCandace Owens50:29

        ... at the, um, at the lunch table.

    26. JRJoe Rogan50:31

        Mm-hmm.

    27. COCandace Owens50:31

        And that's really how they've been acting, like they're not interested. They think that they're the cool kids at the lunch table, and they get to define what's cool, and they're, they're, uh, just having a rude awakening right now. And it's beautiful to watch. I love it. I love it.

    28. JRJoe Rogan50:42

        Well, everybody loves an upset too.

    29. COCandace Owens50:44

        Yeah.

    30. JRJoe Rogan50:44

        People love an upset.

Episode duration: 2:31:04