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... four, three, two,…
- JRJoe Rogan
... four, three, two, one. Boom, and we're live. Candace Owens, how you doing?
- COCandace Owens
I'm good. How are you?
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm d- I'm very good.
- COCandace Owens
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Thank you. Thank you for asking. There's a lot of, lot of controversy these days, Candace.
- COCandace Owens
I guess.
- JRJoe Rogan
Little bit?
- COCandace Owens
In, in the Twitter-verse.
- JRJoe Rogan
In the world.
- COCandace Owens
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just everybody's, uh, excited about being outraged.
- COCandace Owens
Yeah, exactly. That's exactly right. There's controversy every five seconds.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know, I had a guy on before, the guy that you just met, uh, Dr. Robert Schoch, he's a geologist from Boston University, and he is a, a part of this, uh, backdating of the ancient, uh, the history of Egypt. And they're talking about, you know, all these different structures that might be thousands and thousands of years older than people think they are. And one of the things that he's working on is that there was coronal mass ejections from the sun somewhere around 10,000 years ago that basically killed off a giant percentage of the population on the planet. Lightning storms millions of times greater than anything we've ever experienced before, that literally was like lightning coming down like rain, barbecuing the ground, killing people, people forced into caves, civilization resets. (slaps table) It's almost like we need something like that-
- COCandace Owens
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... to really be upset about.
- COCandace Owens
I know.
- JRJoe Rogan
Because instead of being upset about Roseanne or Samantha Bee-
- COCandace Owens
It's unbelievable, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Or, "Samantha Bee used the C-word today."
- COCandace Owens
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
"That naughty girl."
- COCandace Owens
(laughs) Yes, it's just outrage culture.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- COCandace Owens
I say everyone should just wait like 48 hours if everybody hates you and then they'll be on-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- COCandace Owens
... to the next person that they have to hate.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, well, that's one of the cool things about the internet, is the-
- COCandace Owens
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... the cycle. Boy, it hits you hard, but then it goes back pretty quick.
- COCandace Owens
Really fast, yes.
- 15:00 – 30:00
Yeah. …
- JRJoe Rogan
a boxer that came out of, uh, Hartford.
- COCandace Owens
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Big time boxer. Marlon, uh, Marlon Starling. Um, but when you were in high school-
- COCandace Owens
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
... somebody started doing this prank call and shit on you. And was this, uh-
- COCandace Owens
It was all in one night.
- JRJoe Rogan
It was all in one night?
- COCandace Owens
Yeah, it was, like, four voicemails.
- JRJoe Rogan
Was this tied to, like, a boyfriend or-
- COCandace Owens
No, so I was at-
- JRJoe Rogan
... a girl who was jealous?
- COCandace Owens
... I was at a boyfriend's house when I got the calls, and I just, like, put it to silent 'cause it was, like, blocked number. So I was like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- COCandace Owens
... I didn't think anything of it, and then, like, when I listened to it, like, it was, like, some pretty horrific stuff. Like, I definitely cried, you know? I was 17 years old.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- COCandace Owens
Um, and then the next day at school, I took this, like, philosophy class. And, like, I don't know what the topic was. I don't know what prompted me to raise my hand and, like, introduce what had happened last night as, like, you know, a segue. Maybe I just needed to get it off my chest. But, like, the teacher, like, spazzed out and was like, "Get up. We're going to the principal's office." Like, you know, "You have to report this." He brings me into the office, the principal, like, freaked out. Like, she just, like ... The language was like ... You know, it, it was shocking, you know? Um, and then she called, like, the resource officer, and then, like, I ... The next period of my life was like a blackout because it turned out that three of the kids, I had never even met. Like, they ... This was, like, maybe some kids that had their first beer. One of the kids I was, like, friends with, but we were arguing because he was upset that I was, like, spending so much time with my boyfriend.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, that's what it was.
- COCandace Owens
But I didn't ... But he, but he's gay. Like, he wa- it wasn't like ... He just was, like, jealou- you know, like, just like I used to hang out with him every day, so I'd hang out with my boyfriend. It was, like, a stupid thing.
- JRJoe Rogan
Maybe he wasn't 100% gay.
- COCandace Owens
Yeah, no, uh, he's a hun- 100% gay.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- COCandace Owens
Um, from what I'm told, but, um, yeah, so, uh, then-
- JRJoe Rogan
So he just got petty-
- COCandace Owens
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and jealous, and so he started-
- COCandace Owens
And then he was like, "Here are my three friends, and they ... we're all gonna get drunk and call these-"
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, God.
- COCandace Owens
"... call this Black girl." And, you know, it's easy to say awful things into, like, this. Like, if you don't have to look at a human being-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, right.
- COCandace Owens
... like, it's easy to say awful things, but unfortunately, for me, one of the people in the car happened to be the current governor of Connecticut's son.
- 30:00 – 45:00
Might be a point…
- COCandace Owens
every single woman in the world. Chrissy Teigen's also like a n- Like, she's just, like, angry, like, you know? And just like hate, hate, hate. And then, like, you say one thing about them and, like, they, th- they're like, "How could you even question ... How could you even ask the question if it's because they don't have kids?" And I'm like, "The fact that you guys are so outraged makes me sort of think that, you know-"
- JRJoe Rogan
Might be a point there.
- COCandace Owens
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- COCandace Owens
A little bit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, if you didn't-
- COCandace Owens
And I didn't delete the tweet.
- JRJoe Rogan
If you didn't have any point at all, it wouldn't work.
- COCandace Owens
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
And that way-
- COCandace Owens
It would just make me stupid.
- JRJoe Rogan
... n- no one gives ... Yeah.
- COCandace Owens
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
No one would be upset at you. They're like, "Look at this person. She doesn't know what the fuck she's talking about."
- COCandace Owens
And I tweeted that. I was like, "There's gotta be something here-"
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- COCandace Owens
"... 'cause you guys are all losing your minds," you know? Like, I, it's so ... Sarah Silverman responded. Kathy Griffin was like ... They went nuts. This was like a full-on, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, Kathy Griffin is so happy someone's talking about her. She's like, "Yes!"
- COCandace Owens
I know. I know. She's like, "Yay!" But she's bizarre, and they've gotten bizarre. And at one point, these people, to me, were funny, and something sort of just happened. And, like, Trump is the w- the means. Like, they ... Whatever they're going through in life, the outlet is Trump and anybody that likes Trump.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm. Well, people think there's a cultural war going on. There most certainly is.
- COCandace Owens
There is, for sure.
- JRJoe Rogan
But, uh, that, you know ... So they feel like they're on a side and they have to, you know ... They're gonna lob grenades.
- COCandace Owens
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're in the war.
- COCandace Owens
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And it gives people ... It also gives people a sense of purpose.
- COCandace Owens
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, that engaging in these Twitter fights somehow or another is, like, reinforcing-
- COCandace Owens
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... the good behavior and shutting down the bad behavior.
- 45:00 – 57:57
Hm. …
- COCandace Owens
if, I mean, you wanna talk about s- like smart beyon- like the smartest person I know is Charlie Kirk, hands down. And he's only 24. Um, he didn't, he didn't go to college, just like, I don't know, just, like, was reading weird stuff when he was seven. You know, I don't know, like just-
- JRJoe Rogan
Hm.
- COCandace Owens
... like things that everyone's like, "Oh yeah, I just read that, Tom has a soul." He's like, "Yes, I read it when I was six." You know? I'm like, "What?"
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- COCandace Owens
I'm like, "Charlie, could you not say that? Could you be cool?" But so, um, uh, when, when Charlie and I met and I, like, I told him, like, my plan to sort of help Black America and to wake them up, 'cause I understood how we had fallen victim to this brainwash. There was-
- JRJoe Rogan
What br- what brainwash is that?
- COCandace Owens
The, the, the leftist dogma, just this idea that because we're Black, we have to vote Democrat and anybody that is not a Democrat is racist and against helping us. That is, like, what so many Black Americans believe. I believed it. I believed it, you know what I mean? So, and I'm a b- I'm a pretty smart girl, you know? I've always been a very smart girl. I've alwa- I've always been, you know, I've excelled, um, in, in academics, right? So how did I fall victim to it? The exact same system, right? These three verticals, the first being the family, the breakdown of the family. The second one, um, being culture, which then, uh, to me, like, growing up, it was like Jay-Z. Like Jay-Z was god to me. Like I, like would throw on, like I was, you know, I went through a lot of stuff when I was a kid. I didn't have a great family. Um, you know, um, but I would throw on a Jay-Z album and like whatever he said was like, it was like going to church, you know? Um, and then ... um, and I can't stand him now. But the third vertical-
- JRJoe Rogan
You can't stand him now?
- COCandace Owens
No, because he, he knows exactly what he's doing and he's a traitor. But the third vertical being education, which was-
- JRJoe Rogan
What a casual aside.
- COCandace Owens
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
He's a traitor.
- COCandace Owens
Yeah. Yeah, it's like m- like Beyoncé and Jay-Z I'm just like-
- JRJoe Rogan
How is he a traitor?
- COCandace Owens
Because he knows what's happening to Black America and he's somebody that built his entire career off the backs of Black America. You know, of being the guy who started in the hood in, in, in, um, you know, Queens and worked his ... you know, was a drug dealer and worked his way up and he became the idol for so many people in Black America. And then he stands on stage and endorses Hillary Clinton. He stands on stage and tells Black America to put the same people in, in the White House that locked up more Black men than any president in the history of the United States, Bill Clinton. Right? The person that stands on the crime bill of '94 is Bill Clinton. But because Jay-Z is now focused on getting a piece of the pie, the globalist piece of the pie, he doesn't care about Black America. Um, that's, that's my opinion. Um, so what-
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you think that's what it was or do you think that maybe he thought that Donald Trump represented a lot of racist white people?
- COCandace Owens
No. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
And he didn't want that in office?
- COCandace Owens
Oh, god, no. Oh god, no.
- JRJoe Rogan
You don't think so?
- COCandace Owens
Not even kind of.
- JRJoe Rogan
No?
- COCandace Owens
Not for a s-
- JRJoe Rogan
You don't think he, he felt that?
- COCandace Owens
Not for a single second.
- JRJoe Rogan
How do you know?
- COCandace Owens
J- because Jay-Z's very smart.
- JRJoe Rogan
Did you speak to him?
- COCandace Owens
No, I didn't speak to him. I just, I know. Like I t- it's, uh, there's a, it's a certain thing where like I just, I know that Jay-Z and Beyoncé betrayed the Black community. Like they're, they are-
- JRJoe Rogan
So you think they did it purposely for financial gain?
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