The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #1126 - Erik Griffin
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150 min read · 30,023 words- 0:01 – 1:16
Android watch + iPhone: relationship-driven tech compromises
- JRJoe Rogan
You don't want them to know.
- EGErik Griffin
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Boom! And we're live, Eric Griffin. So we were talking before-
- EGErik Griffin
Thank you.
- JRJoe Rogan
... this podcast how you mix it up with the Android watch but the Apple phone. It's very curious.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah, well, see, I used to be all Samsung. I loved the, the Android, and the watch is great, I love how it interacts.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- EGErik Griffin
But then I get a girlfriend who has an iPhone.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right?
- EGErik Griffin
And she's like, "I wanna FaceTime with you."
- JRJoe Rogan
So why don't you tell her to get Skype?
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah (sighs) .
- JRJoe Rogan
Skype app?
- EGErik Griffin
You're married. You don't understand-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- EGErik Griffin
... what, like, you can't... Anyway.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- EGErik Griffin
(laughs) I got, I-
- JRJoe Rogan
Gotta set standards.
- EGErik Griffin
Well hey, I, I'm not the sa- standard guy.
- JRJoe Rogan
Line is in the sand. Line is in the sand, brother.
- EGErik Griffin
(laughs) So then I... But then they have, like, a, a, they had this app on the i- Apple now called Gear.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- EGErik Griffin
Which lets you hook up y- your phone, but you can't really interact with it. You can't, like, talk or anything. But it's actually kinda nice. You just wanna know stuff's going on.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's probably, yeah, we were saying it's probably better that you can't interact with it.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause Jamie was telling me that they, you could do walkie-talkie with your iPhones now.
- JVJamie Vernon
Yeah, they're d- it's still being announced right now so I don't know all the details. But the Worldwide Developers Conference is going on, the WWDC, so they're announce the new operating system, the new Apple Watch, and the new aut- like, automatic workout detection, walkie-talkie mode, and something else is going on.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's just too much.
- 1:16 – 2:38
Smartwatches, rudeness, and the death (and return?) of real conversation
- EGErik Griffin
I have a Apple Watch too. I love it. You can leave it at m- at least sometimes I leave my phone. I don't even bring my phone with me.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah?
- EGErik Griffin
'Cause you can, uh...
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you feel weird when you do that?
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah. 'Cause and here's the-
- JRJoe Rogan
Like you're a rebel?
- EGErik Griffin
Here's what's happening now though, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay.
- EGErik Griffin
... if I have my watch, like so I'm right... When, when you look at your watch, what does that cue? It cues like you wanna go or you're missing out on something orI I don't-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- EGErik Griffin
... have any more... No, now when you do that, it's just 'cause you're looking at a text message.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- EGErik Griffin
So now it's just as rude as-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- EGErik Griffin
It does n- you know, we're not... This isn't helping.
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- EGErik Griffin
It's not helping when I go, if I'm looking, you know, we're talking and I go like this, I look down and you think, "Hey, just, you have to go someplace?"
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- EGErik Griffin
No, no, I just got a text.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's too much, right?
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah, just got a tweet. I got a retweet I'm looking at, you know, that's what it is.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, what are we doing? What are we doing here?
- EGErik Griffin
I have no idea. And you know what's really s- weird about all this stuff, the phones and how we talk? Everybody wants to text, like, you, you can't get people to call you.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- EGErik Griffin
You can't get people to... And now, and now they're putting little emojis.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- EGErik Griffin
Right? And then from the emo- now they're putting, like, GIFs of real people.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- EGErik Griffin
So this is how I feel.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- 2:38 – 3:44
Memoji and copycat features: Apple vs Android one-upmanship
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm. What is this, Jamie?
- JVJamie Vernon
This is the new thing they showed. It's, uh, you're making a emoji of yourself called Memoji.
- JRJoe Rogan
They already did that with Sandra- Samsung.
- JVJamie Vernon
This is, like, it's working in-
- JRJoe Rogan
How in-
- JVJamie Vernon
... the Apple.
- JRJoe Rogan
... they're ripping them off.
- EGErik Griffin
This is what I'm- We're searching, we're trying to find ways to be more ourselves. You don't need an emoji of yourself, just do-
- JVJamie Vernon
Oh, they're gonna-
- EGErik Griffin
... be yourself.
- JVJamie Vernon
Sorry, they're going against each other.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, the-
- JVJamie Vernon
It takes on.
- JRJoe Rogan
... takes on Samsung-
- JVJamie Vernon
I thought it was-
- JRJoe Rogan
... AR emoji. Yeah, they ripped off the idea.
- JVJamie Vernon
I thought it was-
- JRJoe Rogan
Cheap fucks.
- JVJamie Vernon
... taken on.
- JRJoe Rogan
Isn't that funny?
- EGErik Griffin
Apple's always late (laughs) .
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, Apple's ripping people off. No, they were first with the f- iPhone. The iPhone was the first of these kinda things, the first iPhone. But Androids are real close now. They're real close. I mean, it's, it's very-
- EGErik Griffin
But E-
- JRJoe Rogan
... debatable.
- EGErik Griffin
... but everything after that, they were late. Like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- EGErik Griffin
... like, on an Android you could copy and paste on an Android.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, you could do that?
- EGErik Griffin
Two, three years before you could do it-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, really?
- 3:44 – 9:01
Platform lock-in and the iMessage ‘trap’ when switching phones
- JRJoe Rogan
Is there anything native to Android like, uh, like, the, uh, the FaceTime thing? Is there something that's on the-
- EGErik Griffin
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
... right away?
- EGErik Griffin
They do, they have, like, they had, like, their own-
- JRJoe Rogan
Version of that?
- EGErik Griffin
They have their own version of that, but I don't think people really use it. They have their own An- like, Samsung Video.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, but Samsung has one.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah, yeah, Samsung.
- JRJoe Rogan
But does, like, what if you have, say, like, a Google Pixel phone?
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah, that, they might have, but I don't think enough people have a Google Pixel phone to make that even a thing.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, really?
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I thought those were really popular.
- EGErik Griffin
Are they? Who do you know? Name me one person you know that has a Google Pixel.
- JRJoe Rogan
Damn, that's a good call.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Me. I have one.
- EGErik Griffin
You don- you do not have a Google Pixel.
- JRJoe Rogan
I do have one.
- EGErik Griffin
D- but you-
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't use it.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah, okay, so you were given a Google Pixel-
- JRJoe Rogan
No, I bought one.
- EGErik Griffin
Why?
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause I wanted to try it out, but here's what happened. Um, I couldn't get text messages to work. This is the scam.
- EGErik Griffin
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Because you are hooked up to this, uh, i- what are you showing me, Jamie?
- JVJamie Vernon
So they do have it, it's with the Pixel 2 or something, like just-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- JVJamie Vernon
... or maybe it's new to that.
- 9:01 – 13:04
Hardware nitpicks to generational tech nostalgia: keyboards, typing class, early computers
- JRJoe Rogan
You know what's not easy though? Um, Apple does not have good keyboards. Like if you have a, a desktop keyboard at home and you can add a second keyboard, you know, like buy a mechanical keyboard-
- EGErik Griffin
Oh, right, right, right.
- JRJoe Rogan
If you are a writer, if you like to write, y- ... the, the problem with Apple keyboards is there's no key travel. It's very l- very shallow. So it's like, uh, just a tiny movement. Click, click, click, click, click. W- what I use is I use a ThinkPad. And then one of the reasons why I use a ThinkPad is there's like travel to these keys.
- EGErik Griffin
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like this k- ... these keys have motion to them.
- EGErik Griffin
Okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like if you-
- EGErik Griffin
You're just-
- JRJoe Rogan
You-
- EGErik Griffin
You're old school.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Well, the thing is you feel where the keys are. You feel. Like so as you're typing, I can just look at the screen and I don't, I don't have to look down at the keyboard. And they've depressed with your fingers, like you f- you have ... there's motion to it. So there's no accidental pressing of the keys.
- EGErik Griffin
Did you take typing in high school?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't remember any of it though.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah, me too.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- EGErik Griffin
I my h- my high school year was the last year that they had typing at my school.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah. I remember-
- JRJoe Rogan
The last year?
- EGErik Griffin
They, they des- ... they were saying like, "This is no longer ..." 'Cause they, they had a computer class that they were starting. I just thought, "Damn." Like I look back on this things and I just go, wow, the, the ... how times have changed. Our generation is this like generation that is like we went through the first of all of these things. I had a Commodore 64. I-
- JRJoe Rogan
Did you?
- EGErik Griffin
Yes. I remember the first Apple laptop.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm.
- EGErik Griffin
I rememb- I remember like when game systems changed and color TV and call waiting and, uh, like all the things that we w- you know, there-
- JRJoe Rogan
Answering machines.
- EGErik Griffin
Answering machines and then n- then no more answering machines and-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, could you even buy an answering machine today?
- EGErik Griffin
N- n- n- nine, seven, six numbers and, you know, like all, all of that stuff was like-
- 13:04 – 14:14
Notifications, Bieber fame, and celebrity as political force
- EGErik Griffin
My phone's gonna like... The, the only time my phone has blown up like this before is when, uh, Justin Bieber posted a picture with h- him on... With-
- JRJoe Rogan
With you?
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah. On, on his Instagram. And then my phone was shaking, shaking for, for, for a month straight.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just from the notifications?
- EGErik Griffin
Like, I'm like... I, I turn on the notif- I say, "You guys..." Nobody believed me. Let me turn on the notifications and I put it down like this and it's just like... (mimics phone vibrating) Like, I'm talking about. That guy-
- JRJoe Rogan
Thousands of notifications.
- EGErik Griffin
He could... That guy could topple a government if he really wanted to like... if he got political. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Right, that's a problem.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, that's what we're dealing with with Trump, a famous person who becomes the president. I mean, this little kid is only 24, right? What the fuck ha- Is he ev- is he even 24? 23?
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah, he just turned 24, yeah.
- JVJamie Vernon
Not really.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Jamie's hating. Jamie's hating.
- JVJamie Vernon
I didn't. I didn't.
- EGErik Griffin
No, he's not.
- JVJamie Vernon
I did.
- EGErik Griffin
He's actually a good kid, you know, he really is. But if I gave you... If I gave you $100 million and no parental supervision, you'd do some dumb shit too.
- JRJoe Rogan
He'd do way worse.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah, but I, I, I... Listen, right now, I would do a lot of dumb shit if you gave me $100 million.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- EGErik Griffin
Just out of nowhere, you know.
- JRJoe Rogan
Out of nowhere. Yeah.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's done well for, for the... what he is, you know, the kind of fame that that guy possesses.
- EGErik Griffin
(sighs)
- JRJoe Rogan
He's off the charts famous.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's like-
- 14:14 – 17:25
Online voting idea (Columbia House-style) and a detour into record-industry ‘crooks’
- EGErik Griffin
This is why, this is why we can't get rid of the electoral college though, by the way. Not to get political, but-
- JRJoe Rogan
It does help, but I mean did... He rigged that. I mean-
- EGErik Griffin
But you can't have-
- JRJoe Rogan
He didn't rig it but played the game well, I should say.
- EGErik Griffin
But you can't have a popularity contest.
- JRJoe Rogan
But it is a popularity contest no matter what, even with the electoral college. You just have to be popular in Iowa, popular in Ohio, know how to r- do that. Just go over there and talk about Muslims.
- EGErik Griffin
I don't know-
- JRJoe Rogan
Shake your fist.
- EGErik Griffin
Why don't we... I don't... I still don't understand why we don't just have online voting-
- JRJoe Rogan
Voting. Absolutely.
- EGErik Griffin
... or like, or like... or with their phone. Like, you have to have a phone-
- JRJoe Rogan
Preach.
- EGErik Griffin
... and then you register your phone so that IMIE number that your phone has is, is, is strictly for you.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- EGErik Griffin
They, they already have, uh... What do you call it? Like facial recognition software. Uh, you could... Yo-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- EGErik Griffin
Their phones have fingerprint.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- EGErik Griffin
So there's like three different ways to like register-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- EGErik Griffin
... and then you'll get everyone's vote. I always say votes should be like the Columbia DVD had them. Remember Columbia DVDs?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, they would just... They planned on-
- EGErik Griffin
They would just send them.
- JRJoe Rogan
... just giving it to you free.
- EGErik Griffin
You know, you... So use your... Your... So if you're a Republican, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- EGErik Griffin
Then your vote goes to the Republican until you go, "I don't want this Republican." (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I wonder what the numbers of people that... If people don't know what we're talking about with Columbia DVD because we're old, but back in the day you would sign up for like cassette tapes-
- EGErik Griffin
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and they would send you a bunch of cassettes. Like you would pick like what you liked.
- 17:25 – 23:03
Fame up close: Bieber stories, entitlement, and why stars get ‘dick’ reputations
- EGErik Griffin
You don't get that famous, you don't get that famous at, at the time when people are treating you like just a god, you know, everywhere you went. I mean, he... The, the... Rock star.
- JRJoe Rogan
I bet there's some people-
- EGErik Griffin
That was the pinnacle. Rock star-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- EGErik Griffin
... A-list s- uh, A-list actor, professional athlete.... that, that's the order.
- JRJoe Rogan
But do you think they have to be dicks?
- EGErik Griffin
No, no, no.
- JRJoe Rogan
Or do you think they become dicks be- just because, here's my theory about that, is that the, the fame, that level of fame is overwhelming.
- EGErik Griffin
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
People grabbing at you all the time, so you just develop this dicky thing, just to keep people the fuck away from you.
- EGErik Griffin
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, if you get to that, I would imagine, like, that Michael Jordan or, uh, (blows raspberries) , even Bieber.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, that, there's a level where you can't go anywhere.
- EGErik Griffin
Listen, I've been a- I've been around Bieber.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah? What's it like?
- EGErik Griffin
He's not an, uh, I don't, uh, he's never alone. He's-
- JRJoe Rogan
Never.
- EGErik Griffin
... always got somebody there.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- EGErik Griffin
I don't think he trusts anyone. And that level of fla- fame, where you're just also used to, you know, "Hey, get me a water. Uh, get the car."
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- EGErik Griffin
"I wanna go here. I wanna..." When you get used to... That becomes normal.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just telling people.
- EGErik Griffin
Just telling people what to do becomes normal.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- EGErik Griffin
Listen, dude, I was at a, I was at a, a party, and he was, he was there, and he's, he's, like, playing his music for his new album. And he just looks at me and he says, "Hey, can you get me a, can you get me a vodka?" He says, "Get me a vodka," I think, and then I went, I was like, "Oh, okay." You know, I-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- EGErik Griffin
(Laughs) And I goes... (laughs) Like, uh, I was so mad at myself.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- 23:03 – 27:31
Traveling early in a relationship: Costa Rica disaster, food poisoning, and compromise
- JRJoe Rogan
You ever been to Costa Rica?
- EGErik Griffin
I have been to Co- oh, god.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- EGErik Griffin
Just went to Costa Rica with my girlfriend. Uh, we just started to get together and it, it was, it was good and bad.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just started to get together-
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah, we were-
- JRJoe Rogan
... and you took her to Costa Rica.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah. Well, I mean, we were-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a bold move, sir.
- EGErik Griffin
I mean, it was. It was, it was too soon.
- JRJoe Rogan
Bold move, sir.
- JVJamie Vernon
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
How long were you guys dating?
- EGErik Griffin
I, it was too, it was too soon, I thought. Maybe we were, like, four, five months, you know. But it was, like, Christmastime, and I'm, I'm with her. I'm like, "Let me make this special." So we go to Costa Rica, you know. I do it up.
- JRJoe Rogan
And she went Christmas with y- with you and not the family.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah. Well, she's Jewish, so...
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, oh, there you go. There you go.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah. So, you know, they're, they're all monsters. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) .
- EGErik Griffin
How dare you? Only kidding.
- JRJoe Rogan
You gotta be careful with that kinda talk-
- EGErik Griffin
I know.
- JRJoe Rogan
... in this day and age.
- EGErik Griffin
(laughs) I know.
- JRJoe Rogan
People are g-
- EGErik Griffin
There it is. There, that's it.
- JRJoe Rogan
People are getting after people.
- EGErik Griffin
That's my c- career is over. No, I'm just teasing. My girlf- my girlfriend's Jewish. She has a beautiful family. So, uh, she was like, "Well, I don't care about Christmas anyway, so let's go."
- JRJoe Rogan
Right. Bam.
- EGErik Griffin
But I don't go see my mom, who moved to, uh, my parents just moved to Malaga.
- 27:31 – 31:14
Aging, wanting a family, and a relationship turning point via self-help audio
- EGErik Griffin
I don't know, I don't know if it's gonna be over. We're coming up on a year.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, shit.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah, we're coming up on a year.
- JRJoe Rogan
Goddamn. That gets scary.
- EGErik Griffin
But I hear people... You know what it is? It's you, people like you, it's your fucking fault.
- JRJoe Rogan
It can work.
- EGErik Griffin
You're on stage talking about your great family and, and just how-
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause you want a family.
- EGErik Griffin
... and how you deal with it. Yeah, you think about these things, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
How, how old are you now?
- EGErik Griffin
I'm 46.
- JRJoe Rogan
So are you thinking about shooting live ones in there, making, making little jokes?
- EGErik Griffin
Um, I'm thinking about, like, "You know what? Maybe it's time..." You know what it is? It's, like, once... I, I've, I'm not super successful, but I've enjoyed my career.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- EGErik Griffin
And now I'm like, "Oh, I enjoy this. I wanna share this with someone that really cares about me." And I... And one thing I'll say for her, she, she... I feel the love, you know.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's awesome.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah, I really do feel the love. She's a very loving woman, uh, very beautiful.
- JRJoe Rogan
And so she got used to you after a while and understands your jokingness-
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah. Right, right.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and appreciates you?
- EGErik Griffin
I'm gonna-
- JRJoe Rogan
Knows you're a good guy?
- EGErik Griffin
I'll tell you something that she did that... This is why me even talking about her right now, something that... She moved me, Joe.
- JRJoe Rogan
Aw.
- EGErik Griffin
The other day, we were having, like, a little fight.
- JRJoe Rogan
Little fight.
- EGErik Griffin
A little fight.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- EGErik Griffin
And then it was obviously, I was like, "We're not communicating," I told her. You know what she did? She downloaded Communicating With Your Man audiobook and she... And we sat and listened to it together.
- JRJoe Rogan
Boom.
- 31:14 – 1:00:39
Starting stand-up late: comedy class, first set at The Comedy Store, and learning originality
- JRJoe Rogan
So, you started doing standup at 30?
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a good, that's, that's a late start, right?
- EGErik Griffin
I started, I went to a comedy class when I was in my early 20s, 'cause my mom's one of those supportive women. I said, "Hey, Mom, I think I wanna be a comedian." Next day, I'm signed up at the, at, at UCLA Extension, you know, and I... With a notebook, and like, she's like, "Here's a notebook."
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah, yeah. That's all my mom. If I said I wanted to be a rock-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's amazing.
- EGErik Griffin
If I said I wanted to be a rock climber, my mom was like, "Okay." She go... She would've bought ropes and, like, hooked me up with the... 'Cause she wanted me out of the fucking house (laughs) , you know what I mean?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right, right.
- EGErik Griffin
She wanted me, like, when I was young, you know? Uh, so I went to the class taught by Sandi Shaw.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, Jesus.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah, yeah. It was a, uh... (sighs) I thought, I thought, "This is gonna be it."
- JRJoe Rogan
Sandi Shaw's daughter?
- EGErik Griffin
Her mom... Her, her, her mom owns The Comedy Store. I'm gonna make it, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
How bad was the advice?
- EGErik Griffin
The a-... (sighs) Look at you. Wow. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- EGErik Griffin
This, this, this motherfucker right here, boy.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- EGErik Griffin
Whoo! Joe Rogan trying to start shit!
- JRJoe Rogan
Excuse me, how good was the advice?
- EGErik Griffin
It wasn't good. Come on.
- JRJoe Rogan
I, I, I must... I misspoke.
- EGErik Griffin
Can I, can I tell you this?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- EGErik Griffin
This is, uh... I really, I, I, I, I need... It, I, I suggest to anyone, if you wanna be a comic, go to one comedy class, just for the comfort of the environment and the support.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- EGErik Griffin
Go to one comedy class. But after that, you gotta get out there to the open mics, and you gotta-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- EGErik Griffin
... do it on your own. But I suggest one comedy class, all right?
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