The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #1126 - Erik Griffin
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Apple vs. Android dating compromises (watches, FaceTime, and ecosystem lock-in)
- JRJoe Rogan
You don't want them to know.
- EGErik Griffin
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Boom! And we're live, Eric Griffin. So we were talking before-
- EGErik Griffin
Thank you.
- JRJoe Rogan
... this podcast how you mix it up with the Android watch but the Apple phone. It's very curious.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah, well, see, I used to be all Samsung. I loved the, the Android, and the watch is great, I love how it interacts.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- EGErik Griffin
But then I get a girlfriend who has an iPhone.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right?
- EGErik Griffin
And she's like, "I wanna FaceTime with you."
- JRJoe Rogan
So why don't you tell her to get Skype?
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah (sighs) .
- JRJoe Rogan
Skype app?
- EGErik Griffin
You're married. You don't understand-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- EGErik Griffin
... what, like, you can't... Anyway.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- EGErik Griffin
(laughs) I got, I-
- JRJoe Rogan
Gotta set standards.
- EGErik Griffin
Well hey, I, I'm not the sa- standard guy.
- JRJoe Rogan
Line is in the sand. Line is in the sand, brother.
- EGErik Griffin
(laughs) So then I... But then they have, like, a, a, they had this app on the i- Apple now called Gear.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- EGErik Griffin
Which lets you hook up y- your phone, but you can't really interact with it. You can't, like, talk or anything. But it's actually kinda nice. You just wanna know stuff's going on.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's probably, yeah, we were saying it's probably better that you can't interact with it.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause Jamie was telling me that they, you could do walkie-talkie with your iPhones now.
- JVJamie Vernon
Yeah, they're d- it's still being announced right now so I don't know all the details. But the Worldwide Developers Conference is going on, the WWDC, so they're announce the new operating system, the new Apple Watch, and the new aut- like, automatic workout detection, walkie-talkie mode, and something else is going on.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's just too much.
- EGErik Griffin
I have a Apple Watch too. I love it. You can leave it at m- at least sometimes I leave my phone. I don't even bring my phone with me.
- 1:22 – 2:38
The rudeness of constant notifications and the return to “human” communication
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you feel weird when you do that?
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah. 'Cause and here's the-
- JRJoe Rogan
Like you're a rebel?
- EGErik Griffin
Here's what's happening now though, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay.
- EGErik Griffin
... if I have my watch, like so I'm right... When, when you look at your watch, what does that cue? It cues like you wanna go or you're missing out on something orI I don't-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- EGErik Griffin
... have any more... No, now when you do that, it's just 'cause you're looking at a text message.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- EGErik Griffin
So now it's just as rude as-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- EGErik Griffin
It does n- you know, we're not... This isn't helping.
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- EGErik Griffin
It's not helping when I go, if I'm looking, you know, we're talking and I go like this, I look down and you think, "Hey, just, you have to go someplace?"
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- EGErik Griffin
No, no, I just got a text.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's too much, right?
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah, just got a tweet. I got a retweet I'm looking at, you know, that's what it is.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, what are we doing? What are we doing here?
- EGErik Griffin
I have no idea. And you know what's really s- weird about all this stuff, the phones and how we talk? Everybody wants to text, like, you, you can't get people to call you.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- EGErik Griffin
You can't get people to... And now, and now they're putting little emojis.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- EGErik Griffin
Right? And then from the emo- now they're putting, like, GIFs of real people.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- EGErik Griffin
So this is how I feel.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- EGErik Griffin
So, uh, we're, we're, we're going in a circle.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- EGErik Griffin
Because we want human interaction. We want connection.
- 2:38 – 4:13
Memoji, copycats, and the endless Apple vs. Samsung feature race
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm. What is this, Jamie?
- JVJamie Vernon
This is the new thing they showed. It's, uh, you're making a emoji of yourself called Memoji.
- JRJoe Rogan
They already did that with Sandra- Samsung.
- JVJamie Vernon
This is, like, it's working in-
- JRJoe Rogan
How in-
- JVJamie Vernon
... the Apple.
- JRJoe Rogan
... they're ripping them off.
- EGErik Griffin
This is what I'm- We're searching, we're trying to find ways to be more ourselves. You don't need an emoji of yourself, just do-
- JVJamie Vernon
Oh, they're gonna-
- EGErik Griffin
... be yourself.
- JVJamie Vernon
Sorry, they're going against each other.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, the-
- JVJamie Vernon
It takes on.
- JRJoe Rogan
... takes on Samsung-
- JVJamie Vernon
I thought it was-
- JRJoe Rogan
... AR emoji. Yeah, they ripped off the idea.
- JVJamie Vernon
I thought it was-
- JRJoe Rogan
Cheap fucks.
- JVJamie Vernon
... taken on.
- JRJoe Rogan
Isn't that funny?
- EGErik Griffin
Apple's always late (laughs) .
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, Apple's ripping people off. No, they were first with the f- iPhone. The iPhone was the first of these kinda things, the first iPhone. But Androids are real close now. They're real close. I mean, it's, it's very-
- EGErik Griffin
But E-
- JRJoe Rogan
... debatable.
- EGErik Griffin
... but everything after that, they were late. Like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- EGErik Griffin
... like, on an Android you could copy and paste on an Android.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, you could do that?
- EGErik Griffin
Two, three years before you could do it-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, really?
- 4:13 – 9:01
iMessage ‘trap’ and why switching phones breaks your life
- JRJoe Rogan
Me. I have one.
- EGErik Griffin
You don- you do not have a Google Pixel.
- JRJoe Rogan
I do have one.
- EGErik Griffin
D- but you-
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't use it.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah, okay, so you were given a Google Pixel-
- JRJoe Rogan
No, I bought one.
- EGErik Griffin
Why?
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause I wanted to try it out, but here's what happened. Um, I couldn't get text messages to work. This is the scam.
- EGErik Griffin
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Because you are hooked up to this, uh, i- what are you showing me, Jamie?
- JVJamie Vernon
So they do have it, it's with the Pixel 2 or something, like just-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- JVJamie Vernon
... or maybe it's new to that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Android video calling.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah, yeah, it just-
- JRJoe Rogan
Google simplifies Android video calling. Oh.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, look at that. So does that only work with Android, Android to Android?
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah, probably.
- JRJoe Rogan
Is that the idea? Hmm, okay. I!
- EGErik Griffin
I don't know why they don't just work together. Why doesn't Apple-
- JRJoe Rogan
Exactly.
- EGErik Griffin
... and Google just work together?
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, they don't work together with text message, see, that was my point is, like-
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah, this is really annoying.
- JRJoe Rogan
... the iMessage thing is what fucked me.
- EGErik Griffin
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Because everybody knew that I had an, an iPhone so they would send me, 'cause they have an iPhone, they would send me an iMessage. And so I was sending people text messages, they're like, "I'm not getting it." I'm like, "Send me one." And they would send me one and I wouldn't get it. And so then I went online and looked it up and it said, "You have to disable iMessage." Okay, so I disable iMessage. Then you have to call up, you have to actually call up someone-
- EGErik Griffin
I'm done at that point.
- 9:01 – 13:04
Old tech memories: typing class, keyboards, and being the ‘transition’ generation
- JRJoe Rogan
You know what's not easy though? Um, Apple does not have good keyboards. Like if you have a, a desktop keyboard at home and you can add a second keyboard, you know, like buy a mechanical keyboard-
- EGErik Griffin
Oh, right, right, right.
- JRJoe Rogan
If you are a writer, if you like to write, y- ... the, the problem with Apple keyboards is there's no key travel. It's very l- very shallow. So it's like, uh, just a tiny movement. Click, click, click, click, click. W- what I use is I use a ThinkPad. And then one of the reasons why I use a ThinkPad is there's like travel to these keys.
- EGErik Griffin
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like this k- ... these keys have motion to them.
- EGErik Griffin
Okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like if you-
- EGErik Griffin
You're just-
- JRJoe Rogan
You-
- EGErik Griffin
You're old school.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Well, the thing is you feel where the keys are. You feel. Like so as you're typing, I can just look at the screen and I don't, I don't have to look down at the keyboard. And they've depressed with your fingers, like you f- you have ... there's motion to it. So there's no accidental pressing of the keys.
- EGErik Griffin
Did you take typing in high school?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't remember any of it though.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah, me too.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- EGErik Griffin
I my h- my high school year was the last year that they had typing at my school.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah. I remember-
- JRJoe Rogan
The last year?
- EGErik Griffin
They, they des- ... they were saying like, "This is no longer ..." 'Cause they, they had a computer class that they were starting. I just thought, "Damn." Like I look back on this things and I just go, wow, the, the ... how times have changed. Our generation is this like generation that is like we went through the first of all of these things. I had a Commodore 64. I-
- JRJoe Rogan
Did you?
- EGErik Griffin
Yes. I remember the first Apple laptop.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm.
- EGErik Griffin
I rememb- I remember like when game systems changed and color TV and call waiting and, uh, like all the things that we w- you know, there-
- JRJoe Rogan
Answering machines.
- EGErik Griffin
Answering machines and then n- then no more answering machines and-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, could you even buy an answering machine today?
- EGErik Griffin
N- n- n- nine, seven, six numbers and, you know, like all, all of that stuff was like-
- 13:04 – 20:41
Celebrity gravity: Bieber’s influence, fame psychology, and Trump parallels
- EGErik Griffin
My phone's gonna like... The, the only time my phone has blown up like this before is when, uh, Justin Bieber posted a picture with h- him on... With-
- JRJoe Rogan
With you?
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah. On, on his Instagram. And then my phone was shaking, shaking for, for, for a month straight.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just from the notifications?
- EGErik Griffin
Like, I'm like... I, I turn on the notif- I say, "You guys..." Nobody believed me. Let me turn on the notifications and I put it down like this and it's just like... (mimics phone vibrating) Like, I'm talking about. That guy-
- JRJoe Rogan
Thousands of notifications.
- EGErik Griffin
He could... That guy could topple a government if he really wanted to like... if he got political. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Right, that's a problem.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, that's what we're dealing with with Trump, a famous person who becomes the president. I mean, this little kid is only 24, right? What the fuck ha- Is he ev- is he even 24? 23?
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah, he just turned 24, yeah.
- JVJamie Vernon
Not really.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Jamie's hating. Jamie's hating.
- JVJamie Vernon
I didn't. I didn't.
- EGErik Griffin
No, he's not.
- JVJamie Vernon
I did.
- EGErik Griffin
He's actually a good kid, you know, he really is. But if I gave you... If I gave you $100 million and no parental supervision, you'd do some dumb shit too.
- JRJoe Rogan
He'd do way worse.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah, but I, I, I... Listen, right now, I would do a lot of dumb shit if you gave me $100 million.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- EGErik Griffin
Just out of nowhere, you know.
- JRJoe Rogan
Out of nowhere. Yeah.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's done well for, for the... what he is, you know, the kind of fame that that guy possesses.
- EGErik Griffin
(sighs)
- JRJoe Rogan
He's off the charts famous.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's like-
- 20:41 – 23:03
Travel escapes: Cook Islands, New Zealand volcanoes, and avoiding ‘American’ tourist zones
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, would be crazier than that. It'd be the, have you seen that, uh, Guatemalan volcano eruption?
- EGErik Griffin
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Have you seen that? Where people are running-
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... from the smog?
- EGErik Griffin
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
It's fucking crazy.
- EGErik Griffin
It would be girls, guys-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- EGErik Griffin
It wouldn't even just be, you know-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, it would be like that much pussy coming down the mountain, headed towards you. It's, it's, that Guatemala eruption is fucking scary, man.
- EGErik Griffin
There's nothing like that in, in comedy, other than-
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- EGErik Griffin
... Chris D'Elia.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- EGErik Griffin
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, he's close. He's close. But even that, look at this.
- EGErik Griffin
Look at this.
- JRJoe Rogan
Guatemala, most violent eruption in more than 100 years. 25 people already dead.
- EGErik Griffin
Oh, sure.
- JRJoe Rogan
I just, I think it just happened yesterday. It's fucking crazy, man.
- EGErik Griffin
Uh, but the-
- JRJoe Rogan
Dozens of people have died after it erupted, yeah, Sunday.
- EGErik Griffin
The Earth is getting back at us.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, that's two, right? Hawaii and this one.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, we gotta be real fucking careful.
- EGErik Griffin
I'm surprised New Zealand hasn't had a couple eruptions.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh. Do they have, like, a live volcano in New Zealand?
- EGErik Griffin
I just know they, I think, I, I... Can you d- uh, ch- fact check this, but I think New Zealand has the most volcanoes in the world?
- 23:03 – 27:31
Early-relationship travel stress test: Costa Rica sickness and learning compromise
- JRJoe Rogan
You ever been to Costa Rica?
- EGErik Griffin
I have been to Co- oh, god.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- EGErik Griffin
Just went to Costa Rica with my girlfriend. Uh, we just started to get together and it, it was, it was good and bad.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just started to get together-
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah, we were-
- JRJoe Rogan
... and you took her to Costa Rica.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah. Well, I mean, we were-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a bold move, sir.
- EGErik Griffin
I mean, it was. It was, it was too soon.
- JRJoe Rogan
Bold move, sir.
- JVJamie Vernon
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
How long were you guys dating?
- EGErik Griffin
I, it was too, it was too soon, I thought. Maybe we were, like, four, five months, you know. But it was, like, Christmastime, and I'm, I'm with her. I'm like, "Let me make this special." So we go to Costa Rica, you know. I do it up.
- JRJoe Rogan
And she went Christmas with y- with you and not the family.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah. Well, she's Jewish, so...
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, oh, there you go. There you go.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah. So, you know, they're, they're all monsters. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) .
- EGErik Griffin
How dare you? Only kidding.
- JRJoe Rogan
You gotta be careful with that kinda talk-
- EGErik Griffin
I know.
- JRJoe Rogan
... in this day and age.
- EGErik Griffin
(laughs) I know.
- JRJoe Rogan
People are g-
- EGErik Griffin
There it is. There, that's it.
- JRJoe Rogan
People are getting after people.
- EGErik Griffin
That's my c- career is over. No, I'm just teasing. My girlf- my girlfriend's Jewish. She has a beautiful family. So, uh, she was like, "Well, I don't care about Christmas anyway, so let's go."
- JRJoe Rogan
Right. Bam.
- EGErik Griffin
But I don't go see my mom, who moved to, uh, my parents just moved to Malaga.
- 27:31 – 31:14
Age gaps, commitment fears, and a relationship ‘green flag’ (communication audiobook)
- EGErik Griffin
I don't know, I don't know if it's gonna be over. We're coming up on a year.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, shit.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah, we're coming up on a year.
- JRJoe Rogan
Goddamn. That gets scary.
- EGErik Griffin
But I hear people... You know what it is? It's you, people like you, it's your fucking fault.
- JRJoe Rogan
It can work.
- EGErik Griffin
You're on stage talking about your great family and, and just how-
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause you want a family.
- EGErik Griffin
... and how you deal with it. Yeah, you think about these things, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
How, how old are you now?
- EGErik Griffin
I'm 46.
- JRJoe Rogan
So are you thinking about shooting live ones in there, making, making little jokes?
- EGErik Griffin
Um, I'm thinking about, like, "You know what? Maybe it's time..." You know what it is? It's, like, once... I, I've, I'm not super successful, but I've enjoyed my career.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- EGErik Griffin
And now I'm like, "Oh, I enjoy this. I wanna share this with someone that really cares about me." And I... And one thing I'll say for her, she, she... I feel the love, you know.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's awesome.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah, I really do feel the love. She's a very loving woman, uh, very beautiful.
- JRJoe Rogan
And so she got used to you after a while and understands your jokingness-
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah. Right, right.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and appreciates you?
- EGErik Griffin
I'm gonna-
- JRJoe Rogan
Knows you're a good guy?
- EGErik Griffin
I'll tell you something that she did that... This is why me even talking about her right now, something that... She moved me, Joe.
- JRJoe Rogan
Aw.
- EGErik Griffin
The other day, we were having, like, a little fight.
- JRJoe Rogan
Little fight.
- EGErik Griffin
A little fight.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- EGErik Griffin
And then it was obviously, I was like, "We're not communicating," I told her. You know what she did? She downloaded Communicating With Your Man audiobook and she... And we sat and listened to it together.
- JRJoe Rogan
Boom.
- 31:14 – 1:00:39
Breaking into stand-up: classes, first sets at the Comedy Store, and finding your voice
- JRJoe Rogan
So, you started doing standup at 30?
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a good, that's, that's a late start, right?
- EGErik Griffin
I started, I went to a comedy class when I was in my early 20s, 'cause my mom's one of those supportive women. I said, "Hey, Mom, I think I wanna be a comedian." Next day, I'm signed up at the, at, at UCLA Extension, you know, and I... With a notebook, and like, she's like, "Here's a notebook."
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah, yeah. That's all my mom. If I said I wanted to be a rock-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's amazing.
- EGErik Griffin
If I said I wanted to be a rock climber, my mom was like, "Okay." She go... She would've bought ropes and, like, hooked me up with the... 'Cause she wanted me out of the fucking house (laughs) , you know what I mean?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right, right.
- EGErik Griffin
She wanted me, like, when I was young, you know? Uh, so I went to the class taught by Sandi Shaw.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, Jesus.
- EGErik Griffin
Yeah, yeah. It was a, uh... (sighs) I thought, I thought, "This is gonna be it."
- JRJoe Rogan
Sandi Shaw's daughter?
- EGErik Griffin
Her mom... Her, her, her mom owns The Comedy Store. I'm gonna make it, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
How bad was the advice?
- EGErik Griffin
The a-... (sighs) Look at you. Wow. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- EGErik Griffin
This, this, this motherfucker right here, boy.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- EGErik Griffin
Whoo! Joe Rogan trying to start shit!
- JRJoe Rogan
Excuse me, how good was the advice?
- EGErik Griffin
It wasn't good. Come on.
- JRJoe Rogan
I, I, I must... I misspoke.
- EGErik Griffin
Can I, can I tell you this?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- EGErik Griffin
This is, uh... I really, I, I, I, I need... It, I, I suggest to anyone, if you wanna be a comic, go to one comedy class, just for the comfort of the environment and the support.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- EGErik Griffin
Go to one comedy class. But after that, you gotta get out there to the open mics, and you gotta-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- EGErik Griffin
... do it on your own. But I suggest one comedy class, all right?
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