Joe Rogan Experience #1128 - Ryan Sickler

1. 0:00 – 5:18

   Baltimore accents, local pride, and “everythink” pronunciation quirks

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (laughs)

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:01

      Five, four, three, two, one. Ryan Sickler brought some Baltimore work ethic. I can't believe you got actual pieces of paper that you brought.

   3. RSRyan Sickler0:12

      Yeah, I, uh-

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      What kind of comic are you? What, are you prepared?

   5. RSRyan Sickler0:15

      I, I'm prepared, man.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      (laughs)

   7. RSRyan Sickler0:16

      I'm prepared. This is just shit to come back to.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      That Baltimore accent is so ... And you, I have two very good friends. My good friend John Rollo, (clears throat) and my good friend, excuse me, Ben O'Brien, both from Baltimore, both got that weird ... Like, if you don't know that Baltimore-

   9. NANarrator0:30

      Joe Rogan.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       Yeah, that's ... It's, it's a weird accent.

   11. RSRyan Sickler0:32

       It is. It's-

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       It's like, "What is that?"

   13. RSRyan Sickler0:34

       It's-

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       "Hey, Joe Rogan."

   15. RSRyan Sickler0:35

       (laughs) "Hey, Joe Rogan."

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       Yeah, it's, it's-

   17. RSRyan Sickler0:37

       "I love your podcast, Joe."

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       It's a weird accent.

   19. RSRyan Sickler0:40

       It's so fucking weird. Uh, it's ... And people there are like hardcore. They say shit like, for sink, they'll say zink. Kitchen zink.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       What?

   21. RSRyan Sickler0:49

       Am- ambulance. Like-

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       The kitchen zink.

   23. RSRyan Sickler0:51

       I, um ...

   24. NANarrator0:52

       (laughs)

   25. RSRyan Sickler0:52

       I didn't realize I had a Southern accent-

   26. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       (laughs)

   27. RSRyan Sickler0:55

       ... until I moved here, and I still don't believe I have a Southern accent. I'll give it a draw. I'll give it a draw.

   28. JRJoe Rogan0:59

       It is a Southern accent, but it's-

   29. RSRyan Sickler1:01

       It's a draw.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       It's a different one.
2. 5:18 – 7:49

   Maryland dream life: crabbing culture, seafood access, and missing home

   1. JRJoe Rogan5:18

      You know? If you didn't live here, chasing those Hollywood dreams-

   2. RSRyan Sickler5:23

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan5:23

      ... where would you be?

   4. RSRyan Sickler5:24

      In a perfect world, I'd probably have a house right on the Wye River in Maryland.

   5. JRJoe Rogan5:29

      Oh, yeah.

   6. RSRyan Sickler5:30

      Uh, saltwater.

   7. JRJoe Rogan5:31

      Mm-hmm.

   8. RSRyan Sickler5:32

      I'd have four-wheelers.

   9. JRJoe Rogan5:33

      Oh.

   10. RSRyan Sickler5:34

       I'd, uh, throw some traps out in the water on Monday.

   11. JRJoe Rogan5:37

       Oh, crab traps.

   12. RSRyan Sickler5:39

       Yeah, bro. And by S-

   13. JRJoe Rogan5:40

       Yes.

   14. RSRyan Sickler5:40

       Now, here's the ... This is how you say the day is Saturday in... By Saturday.

   15. JRJoe Rogan5:44

       Saturday.

   16. RSRyan Sickler5:45

       By Saturday, we'll have a fucking-

   17. JRJoe Rogan5:47

       Crab feast.

   18. RSRyan Sickler5:48

       God damn right.

   19. JRJoe Rogan5:49

       Hence the podcast name. (laughs)

   20. RSRyan Sickler5:50

       That's right. And every week, I would have my own ... I'd just throw them out there. 'Cause I ... That's one thing I really miss about Maryland. Like, the sushi out here is phenomenal, but the seafood there is-

   21. JRJoe Rogan6:00

       Different, yeah.

   22. RSRyan Sickler6:01

       We could go to a-

   23. JRJoe Rogan6:02

       Yeah.

   24. RSRyan Sickler6:02

       We could go to a dive bar right now and have a plate ... a bucket of rocks, like little pony rolling rocks, and a plate of mussels marinara.... that will blow any fucking restaurant out here out. In a di- in a dive blues bar. I miss the readiness of and availability of delicious seafood-

   25. JRJoe Rogan6:19

       Mm.

   26. RSRyan Sickler6:19

       ... everywhere I go.

   27. JRJoe Rogan6:20

       That's interesting. Yeah, there's not a lot of really good seafood restaurants. There's just sushi out here.

   28. RSRyan Sickler6:25

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan6:26

       That's a real good point. It's like, what do you get out here for seafood? Like, someone will have salmon on the menu or maybe there's, like, haddock or something like that, or halibut. You know, now that's not like, like back home in Boston was Legal Sea Foods was a- a big joint.

   30. RSRyan Sickler6:40

       Yes, 100%.
3. 7:49 – 13:11

   Trotlines, bull lips, and a deep-dive on catching blue crabs

   1. RSRyan Sickler7:49

      Um, but yeah, I would live there on the water and, uh, I mean, I miss... My dad was in outdoors. I was talking to you about this at The Comedy Store. My dad hunted and stuff, but fished, but, uh, he really got us into crabbing and not just throwing traps in the water. We used to, we had a trotline. We used to run a trotline, so-

   2. JRJoe Rogan8:06

      Damn.

   3. RSRyan Sickler8:07

      This is, if I could... My father died when I was 16, I've always thought about this. If I had 24 hours, if my dad could come back here right now for 24 hours, what would I do? And we'd be up on the water crabbing at 5:00 AM, sun up, that's right when you're allowed to start dipping, and then home by 11:00. And then steam them up, have a big ass fucking crab feast, and then probably watch a game. I'd be like, "Hey, these are the Ravens." You know- you know- (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan8:33

      (laughs)

   5. RSRyan Sickler8:33

      They weren't here when you died. (laughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan8:35

      Wow.

   7. RSRyan Sickler8:36

      And then play catch into the night. That would be what I would do. But we had, um, so he- he had a friend that lived on the Eastern Shore that was a crab, uh, guy, crabberman, I guess. But, uh, he taught us how to do a homemade one. So we had this, he went and bought this jon boat, this old wood jon boat. We-

   8. JRJoe Rogan8:53

      What's a jon boat?

   9. RSRyan Sickler8:54

      Jon boat's a flat bottom boat-

   10. JRJoe Rogan8:55

       Okay.

   11. RSRyan Sickler8:55

       ... versus the V bottom and it was wood, um, not aluminum. This one was white painted up, just a beater, you know, and, uh, we had a- a Johnson, um, motor.

   12. JRJoe Rogan9:07

       Engine?

   13. RSRyan Sickler9:07

       Yeah. Every time I hear that Alan Jackson song Drive, he talks about, uh- uh, 75 Johnson with an electric choke. I'm like, "Oh, taking me back."

   14. JRJoe Rogan9:16

       (laughs)

   15. RSRyan Sickler9:17

       But he, so we had- that was our boat. That was our- our little rig. It's me and my two brothers and my dad. And what you do to do a homemade one, you take a bucket, five-gallon bucket, uh, or even just a smaller one, a qui- just some Quikrete with an eye hook in it, okay? Tie your rope here to some chain. Other side of the chain, another rope up to a Clorox bottle so that's your float on this side, okay? Chain, 50 yards of rope, chain, 50 yards. Same setup I just told you on the other end.

   16. JRJoe Rogan9:49

       So the Clorox bottle is just so you know where you are?

   17. RSRyan Sickler9:51

       That's right. That's your beginning and your end. And then every three feet... And this dude was so ahead of his time, like this- we're talking about mid-'80s, late- mid to late '80s we're doing this. He's like, "Go to the butcher and get bull lips." You know the-

   18. JRJoe Rogan10:05

       Bull lips?

   19. RSRyan Sickler10:05

       Yeah, the discarded lips of bulls, actual bull lips and that's going to be your bait because crabs are the biggest scavengers. You could use chicken necks are popular. That's an easy one because you just go to the grocery store, but you got to go to, you know, fucking butcher to get bull lips. I don't know if anybody's got those at the grocery store.

   20. JRJoe Rogan10:20

       Why- why is- is it more effective?

   21. RSRyan Sickler10:21

       It's just stank and nasty.

   22. JRJoe Rogan10:24

       Stinky?

   23. RSRyan Sickler10:24

       And...

   24. JRJoe Rogan10:24

       Like using chicken liver for catfish?

   25. RSRyan Sickler10:28

       Exactly, but also it's durable because these things are eating it. That's going to be your line for most of the summer, you know. You might have to replace one or two, but that's a durable bait that can withstand the crabs tearing it up for, you know, three months, so...

   26. JRJoe Rogan10:42

       Really?

   27. RSRyan Sickler10:43

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan10:43

       Three months?

   29. RSRyan Sickler10:44

       Well, if you're going out over the summer, I'm saying let's say you go crabbing 10 times during the summer, you can probably get away with that whole trotline. Maybe replace one or two that might slip out because you freeze it, so, all right, so that's-

   30. JRJoe Rogan10:55

       You freeze the lips.
4. 13:11 – 17:08

   Lakes, bass spots, and near-miss street danger on tour

   1. JRJoe Rogan13:11

      Dude, I ran into Jon Reep last night, that... You know, Reep is a... He's a, he's a road warrior, you know, constantly on the road. And, uh, we were talking last night, and he's like, "I'm not sure why I'm still in LA." He goes, "I don't have to live here." He's like, "I'm here all the time. I'm doing sets and everything like that." But he goes, "But I'm on the road, man." And I go, "Where you gonna move to?" And he goes, "Dude, I'm gonna get a fucking house on the lake in North Carolina."

   2. RSRyan Sickler13:33

      (sighs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan13:34

      Like, oh.

   4. RSRyan Sickler13:35

      That doesn't sound amazing.

   5. JRJoe Rogan13:35

      I'm gonna keep talking, I'm gonna take-

   6. RSRyan Sickler13:36

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan13:36

      ... my pants off. Tell me more.

   8. RSRyan Sickler13:39

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan13:39

      In a lake, do you got woods? You got woods out there, man? What's it look like? What's it look like in the lake?

   10. RSRyan Sickler13:44

       Uh. (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan13:44

       How clear's the water? You know?

   12. RSRyan Sickler13:47

       That sounds perfect to me.

   13. JRJoe Rogan13:48

       I got a buddy who's got a place in Coeur d'Alene, and, uh, they sent pictures. And y- dude, you, you could be in, like, 60 feet of water, and you take a picture, and you see every pebble on the bottom of the water. I mean, it was just crystal clear. It's like a big old bottle of Fiji.

   14. RSRyan Sickler14:06

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan14:06

       You just f- see everything on the bottom, big old northern pike swimming around in there.

   16. RSRyan Sickler14:11

       Oh.

   17. JRJoe Rogan14:12

       Yeah. Idaho, baby.

   18. RSRyan Sickler14:15

       Fishing, crabbing. Yeah, I've been to Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, driving to, uh, Montana from Seattle-

   19. JRJoe Rogan14:19

       Mm.

   20. RSRyan Sickler14:19

       ... cut through there.

   21. JRJoe Rogan14:20

       I've never been to Idaho. I'm going for the first time. I'm in Boise this month, right? I think. Soon. Someone's-

   22. RSRyan Sickler14:27

       Man-

   23. JRJoe Rogan14:27

       Sometime soon.

   24. RSRyan Sickler14:28

       I love that. I l- I just love country. I mean, we were b-

   25. JRJoe Rogan14:31

       Yeah.

   26. RSRyan Sickler14:31

       I was born in the city, but we only lived there till my parents had my younger brother, almost when we were four, we got out of there. Um, bigger house, more land and stuff like that, so, you know, you live in a row home, there's no... I mean, our backyard was the size of this table.

   27. JRJoe Rogan14:47

       Right.

   28. RSRyan Sickler14:47

       You know what I mean?

   29. JRJoe Rogan14:48

       Yeah.

   30. RSRyan Sickler14:48

       Um, so I grew up out in the county about 20 miles or so outside the city, and my dad was like, "Look, I want you to get a s- a good school education." But all of my family was in Baltimore. He's like, "That's where you're gonna go get your street education." I'm so glad, 'cause I see shit from a mile away. A mile away. Larson's always like, "I don't even know how you do it." We were, uh, we were in Denver. (laughs)
5. 17:08 – 26:17

   Dinosaur fish rabbit hole: musky, arapaima, and alligator gar

   1. JRJoe Rogan17:08

      You ever been outside of Denver, like Evergreen? You ever go up there?

   2. RSRyan Sickler17:11

      I've been to... No, I haven't been to Evergreen.

   3. JRJoe Rogan17:13

      'Cause it's ha-

   4. RSRyan Sickler17:13

      I've been to Colorado Springs.

   5. JRJoe Rogan17:15

      Evergreen has, uh... The northern pike has a cousin, the musky. It's the- their evil cousin. They eat ducks and shit. You ever see a muskellunge?

   6. RSRyan Sickler17:24

      No.

   7. JRJoe Rogan17:25

      Dude, there's a-

   8. RSRyan Sickler17:25

      They eat h- whole ducks?

   9. JRJoe Rogan17:26

      Oh, yeah. They're prehistoric.

   10. RSRyan Sickler17:28

       I'm gonna look that shit up.

   11. JRJoe Rogan17:29

       It is a giant-ass fish, but when I was up there, the week I was up there, someone on Facebook or something like that, I was like, I was like, "Damn, Evergreen's beautiful. This place is gorgeous." And I just was looking up shit on Evergreen, and I saw some guy pulled one through the ice that was fat around like a girl's waist. See, see if you can, uh... That's what they look like.

   12. RSRyan Sickler17:48

       Holy shit. (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan17:49

       Yeah, it's-

   14. RSRyan Sickler17:49

       Holy shit.

   15. JRJoe Rogan17:49

       It's a big-ass animal.

   16. RSRyan Sickler17:51

       Holy shit. Yeah, that could eat a duck.

   17. JRJoe Rogan17:52

       That guy caught that one in Wisconsin. Yeah.

   18. RSRyan Sickler17:54

       Holy fuck.

   19. JRJoe Rogan17:54

       Look at that one above it. Look at that one above it. Look at the size of that fu- And they look like tigers too-

   20. RSRyan Sickler17:58

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan17:59

       ... with the stripes. It's-

   22. RSRyan Sickler18:00

       That's a tiger-

   23. JRJoe Rogan18:01

       Yep.

   24. RSRyan Sickler18:01

       ... meets a python, meets a fish.

   25. JRJoe Rogan18:03

       Yeah, it's an evil fish. They are fucking prehistoric, and they're ruthless, man.

   26. RSRyan Sickler18:08

       I mean, are you f- I feel like you'd be fighting that thing like a marlin for like two hours.

   27. JRJoe Rogan18:12

       Well, yeah, you, especially if you have light tackle, for sure.

   28. RSRyan Sickler18:14

       Do you need to be strapped in a chair for that thing?

   29. JRJoe Rogan18:16

       Mm-mm, no, but you, you gotta battle.

   30. RSRyan Sickler18:17

       Look at that, four people holding that one. Holy shit.
6. 26:17 – 31:15

   Deep-sea fishing stories and the modern shark backlash

   1. RSRyan Sickler26:17

      I went, um, deep sea fishing, God, it was a while ago now, off of, uh ... I think it might have been out of Huntington. We rented a boat, just like six of us.

   2. JRJoe Rogan26:26

      The world record is 1,376 pounds-

   3. RSRyan Sickler26:30

      Holy shit. (laughs) Look at that.

   4. JRJoe Rogan26:30

      ... caught off of Kona in 1982. Whoo, that's a big fish. Damn. 20 ... Damn.

   5. RSRyan Sickler26:38

      Man.

   6. JRJoe Rogan26:39

      (laughs)

   7. RSRyan Sickler26:40

      I mean, that's a boat.

   8. JRJoe Rogan26:41

      Yeah, that's a giant fish. And they-

   9. RSRyan Sickler26:43

      Oh.

   10. JRJoe Rogan26:43

       ... fly through the air too when you're fighting 'em. It's pretty fucking cool.

   11. RSRyan Sickler26:46

       Yeah, that ... They get up.

   12. JRJoe Rogan26:47

       Yeah.

   13. RSRyan Sickler26:49

       Yeah, I went deep sea fishing out here, um, it was like six of us, 'cause I didn't wanna do the, you know, fucking everybody leaning over your face-

   14. JRJoe Rogan26:56

       Mm-hmm.

   15. RSRyan Sickler26:56

       ... and sticking you and shit.

   16. JRJoe Rogan26:57

       Yeah.

   17. RSRyan Sickler26:57

       So we go out here, it's in the mor- you know, before the sun comes up. And, uh, we're heading out to meet the, the sardine boat that's coming back in, that's gonna sell bait to everybody, and we're getting everything, all our ... These guys knew what they were doing, everything fresh, everything fresh. And just as the sun starts coming up, we hit a pod of dolphins. I mean, baby ones, everything, and I just was like, "If I don't catch a fish all fucking day, this is ab- already worth it."

   18. JRJoe Rogan27:21

       Right.

   19. RSRyan Sickler27:21

       I mean, they're just right next to us, playing, playing.

   20. JRJoe Rogan27:25

       Yeah.

   21. RSRyan Sickler27:25

       (inhales deeply) Um, and if ... This guy was so good, if we didn't drop our line, uh, and pull something up on the first one, he'd be like, "Pick 'em up," and he'd take us with his depth finder, go find something else. And we'd go by those big boats of everybody reaching across, he'd be like, "Look at that, guys. That could be you today."

   22. JRJoe Rogan27:38

       (laughs)

   23. RSRyan Sickler27:38

       "We're having beer, we're having lunch."

   24. JRJoe Rogan27:40

       Yeah.

   25. RSRyan Sickler27:40

       But I didn't know ... I just never considered it, but I didn't know a fish could get the bends. It, it fucked me up when I saw that.

   26. JRJoe Rogan27:47

       You mean when you pulled him up? Yeah.

   27. RSRyan Sickler27:47

       Yeah, 'cause the eyes were all ... It looked like it had a tongue sticking out and shit, I'm like-

   28. JRJoe Rogan27:50

       Yeah.

   29. RSRyan Sickler27:50

       ... "What is this?" He's like, "You gave it the bends." I'm like, "Oh, that makes sense. I'm bringing it up and I guess a fish can get the bends." But best fucking fish. So guy, you know, on the way back in, he's cleaning it, packs it all up nice for you.

   30. JRJoe Rogan28:03

       It's out here?
7. 31:15 – 34:13

   Death-by-fastball and the ethics of eating symbolic animals

   1. RSRyan Sickler31:15

      You know, um, I've been thinking about this and talking about this on stage a little bit, but the, as far as death goes, to go out, uh, the most beautiful way I've ever seen any creature on this little rock in outer space go out, the most original, beautiful way is that dove that got killed by a Randy Johnson fastball.

   2. JRJoe Rogan31:34

      Oh. (laughs)

   3. RSRyan Sickler31:34

      It's the best death on planet Earth. It's the best-

   4. JRJoe Rogan31:37

      That's incre- what are the odds of that thing-

   5. RSRyan Sickler31:38

      That's what I'm saying.

   6. JRJoe Rogan31:39

      ... was in that place at that time...

   7. RSRyan Sickler31:41

      That's what I'm saying. Do you know how many billions of fucking birds have been on this planet?

   8. JRJoe Rogan31:46

      Mm-hmm.

   9. RSRyan Sickler31:47

      You know how many died of a Randy Johnson fastball? One.

   10. JRJoe Rogan31:49

       One.

   11. RSRyan Sickler31:50

       One. You could even narrow it down to how many birds were in that area that day. I don't care. That one f- one. And when he hit it, it blew up into its own, like, fireworks explosion.

   12. JRJoe Rogan31:59

       Yeah.

   13. RSRyan Sickler31:59

       You know what I mean? It went out, ka-boom!

   14. JRJoe Rogan32:01

       Yeah.

   15. RSRyan Sickler32:01

       I was like, "Oh."

   16. JRJoe Rogan32:03

       Yeah. There it is.

   17. RSRyan Sickler32:03

       (laughs) It's terr-... I know.

   18. JRJoe Rogan32:05

       Look at this. Boom.

   19. RSRyan Sickler32:06

       It fucked him up.

   20. JRJoe Rogan32:07

       Did it?

   21. RSRyan Sickler32:08

       Yeah. And then he ended up winning, they won the World Series. This is in spring training the same year they won the World Series. He won co-MVP. I think he split it with Curt Schilling. And, um, now he's got... I just looked this up recently 'cause he's, he's got a company now, and I think he uses the logo of, like, an upside down bird and has embraced it. Like... But he was like, "That's not funny. I don't think that shit's funny." You know, he threw-

   22. JRJoe Rogan32:29

       Wow.

   23. RSRyan Sickler32:29

       ... a 100 mile an hour fastball.

   24. JRJoe Rogan32:31

       He was-

   25. RSRyan Sickler32:31

       I mean-

   26. JRJoe Rogan32:31

       ... a beast. He was a fucking-

   27. RSRyan Sickler32:33

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan32:33

       ... beast. Now l- let me ask you this. What do they do? How do they ca-... How do they count that pitch?

   29. RSRyan Sickler32:40

       They s- that's a... It's just considered a dead pitch, they said. It was a no pitch.

   30. JRJoe Rogan32:43

       Ah.
8. 34:13 – 44:52

   Ruthless eagles, genius ravens, and animal intelligence experiments

   1. JRJoe Rogan34:13

      They were here first. Yeah, man, um, I have friends that live in Alaska, and you go up there, dude, and you see eagles everywhere. Just fucking everywhere. They're everywhere. They're like pigeons.

   2. RSRyan Sickler34:24

      I-

   3. JRJoe Rogan34:24

      It's weird.

   4. RSRyan Sickler34:25

      It is. I had this moment. I'm so gl-... I didn't even think of it. I'm so glad you said that. I, um, my, um, daughter's mother, her family's from Seattle and they live right on Lake Washington. They're good friends. B- Bill Gates is around the corner. It's, it's beautiful. And they do this, uh, it's called Seafair Weekend where all the boats come out. Blue Angels, the whole nine. Like, it's beautiful. And they rehearse for, like, a couple of days before the actual event, so I swim out into the middle of the l-... I smoke a joint, the, you know, that beautiful Pacific, uh, rim weed they have up in Seattle.

   5. JRJoe Rogan34:58

      Mm-hmm.

   6. RSRyan Sickler34:58

      And I smoke a joint and I swim out into the middle of Lake Washington. And I'm just out there treading, on my back, floating, having a good time. And they had been saying there's this bald eagle that had been circling. It's got a nest a couple houses up, whatever. I swear to fucking God, this is the God's honest truth, there's a boat also full of people who see it too. Two eagles come out together in tandem as a team. One of 'em starts circling here. This motherfucker nosedives into the water I'm in, grabs a fish and flies off and I said, "Oh! Oh my God!"

   7. JRJoe Rogan35:28

      (laughs)

   8. RSRyan Sickler35:28

      Like, it was, um... And the people in the boat are clapping. I was like, "Holy shit." It was fucking amazing.

   9. JRJoe Rogan35:34

      Wow.

   10. RSRyan Sickler35:35

       Amazing. Into the water I was in and boom, out with the fish.

   11. JRJoe Rogan35:38

       How, how deep do you think they were in the water?

   12. RSRyan Sickler35:40

       And they were together. I don't, I mean, I have no i-... I couldn't answer-

   13. JRJoe Rogan35:42

       I thought they just sort of snatched him.

   14. RSRyan Sickler35:44

       He poof, gone.

   15. JRJoe Rogan35:45

       Wow.

   16. RSRyan Sickler35:45

       Beak in and out.

   17. JRJoe Rogan35:47

       Beak? So they catch it by its feet, right?

   18. RSRyan Sickler35:48

       Oh, maybe, maybe it was feet. He might've went feet.

   19. JRJoe Rogan35:50

       Must be feet.

   20. RSRyan Sickler35:50

       He had to go feet.

   21. JRJoe Rogan35:51

       Yeah.

   22. RSRyan Sickler35:51

       He went feet and boom, lifted it off. But he saw-

   23. JRJoe Rogan35:53

       You ever seen their feet in real life? They're tal-... They're fucking crazy.

   24. RSRyan Sickler35:56

       They're bigger than our hands.

   25. JRJoe Rogan35:57

       Yeah.

   26. RSRyan Sickler35:57

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan35:57

       It's like a giant basketball player hand with claws.

   28. RSRyan Sickler36:00

       (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan36:01

       Big old claws on the end of it.

   30. RSRyan Sickler36:02

       And I've seen those videos online where they, like, lift toddlers up and start to fly away but they're a little too heavy.
9. 44:52 – 55:49

   Bats in Austin, swarms in the sky, and sensing frequencies (Hex suit)

   1. NANarrator44:52

      Um, we used to fuck with bats when we were little. You ever mess around with bats?

   2. JRJoe Rogan44:56

      No, but I've been in Austin for their largest migration in the northern hemisphere.

   3. NANarrator45:02

      (laughs) No.

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:02

      Uh, uh, Austin, I think Austin has the largest migration. Like, it's the, uh, largest daily migration of bats in North America.

   5. NANarrator45:10

      Daily?

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:11

      Yeah, it's crazy. When it gets dark out, look at all those bats, they fly out from under the bridge. There's a, there's a bridge in downtown Austin-

   7. NANarrator45:20

      Holy shit.

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:20

      Bro, it's crazy. It's crazy. So we are staying in this hotel and they're telling us, "Hey, when it gets dark out, uh, that bridge over there," they're like, "all the bats nest in that bridge and they come out." So during the daytime, I was with my family, we walked under the bridge and you hear them (bats squeaking) .

   9. NANarrator45:36

      That cluster is hanging underneath the bridge? Fuck.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:40

       You go under the bridge, you hear that shit. (bats squeaking)

   11. NANarrator45:44

       Look at that.

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:45

       Dude, it's millions. Millions and millions of fucking bats go flying through the air. It's crazy to watch.

   13. NANarrator45:51

       What is it about Austin?

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:52

       Look at that. What does it say there? What does it ... Pull it back to the beginning. It says, "From March through April, millions of mostly female pregnant Mexican free-tailed bats migrate north to give birth. The NW Congress Avenue Bridge in downtown Austin, Texas is the spring and summer home to these bats. Each night at sunset, some two million bats venture out from-"

   15. NANarrator46:14

       Oh, shit.

   16. JRJoe Rogan46:14

       "... under the bridge to eat an estimated 30,000 pounds of insects. It is the largest urban bat colony in North America." And then you watch the departure. Play that video so we see this departure. It's fucking bananas, dude. You can't believe how many bats-

   17. NANarrator46:29

       Look at that.

   18. JRJoe Rogan46:30

       ... fly out. You're like, "What?" That they all just pick this one neighborhood. This one bridge, they decide, "This is our spot." And so they just live in this bridge. So if somebody detonated that bridge-

   19. NANarrator46:40

       Look at that. It looks like night.

   20. JRJoe Rogan46:42

       It's crazy. Dude, it's crazy. I was there for this. It's w- it's wild to watch. You just see them like, like, a swarm, like insects.

   21. NANarrator46:51

       How are they not running into each other like that and knocking themselves down?

   22. JRJoe Rogan46:55

       That's a good question.

   23. NANarrator46:56

       Look how tight that is.

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:57

       Yeah. How do they not headbutt each other?

   25. NANarrator46:58

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:59

       People could barely get on the subway together without stepping on-

   27. NANarrator47:01

       (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan47:01

       ... toes and shit. These things are flying.

   29. NANarrator47:04

       Flying.

   30. JRJoe Rogan47:05

       They say that they have some sort of a magnetic sense. They understand, like, there's a frequency that each one of those animals gives off. That's how birds do it. Like, they ... Ever see birds? They move together in these crazy patterns.
10. 55:49 – 1:05:53

    Smell warfare: deer piss revenge, ozone masking, rut madness, and bears

    1. RSRyan Sickler55:49

       My, um... You talking about smells, so (laughs) this made me think of this. In, uh, Baltimore, all the street parking's parallel parking. There's no assigned parking spaces and there's no driveway or anything. And my brother pulls out in front of this guy's space one night, and the guy's like, "That's my space." He's like, "It's not anybody's space. It's a fucking public street. I can park here." He's like, "That's my space, and it's in front of my house." He's like, "Dude, come on." So that night, assuming that guy breaks into his car, busts his windows out, takes shit out of his car or whatever. And he's like, "Okay." And he had some, uh, deer piss from hunting, and he fucking busted that guy's window.

    2. JRJoe Rogan56:27

       (laughs)

    3. RSRyan Sickler56:27

       Dumped it all on his vents and everything. I was like, that car is ruined. (sobs)

    4. JRJoe Rogan56:31

       So they're taking turns breaking into other people's-

    5. RSRyan Sickler56:33

       Yeah.

    6. JRJoe Rogan56:33

       ... cars?

    7. RSRyan Sickler56:34

       And he pl- uh, well, it ended after the deer piss went in there. That w-

    8. JRJoe Rogan56:37

       (sighs)

    9. RSRyan Sickler56:37

       That was the last of that shit, 'cause that stuff... Do you ever use that? Do you ever-

    10. JRJoe Rogan56:40

        No.

    11. RSRyan Sickler56:40

        You don't ever put it on you?

    12. JRJoe Rogan56:42

        No.

    13. RSRyan Sickler56:42

        Yeah.

    14. JRJoe Rogan56:43

        No.

    15. RSRyan Sickler56:43

        That stuff's supposed to be... Uh, it, I couldn't. The smell of it just sitting on the sidewalk, I was like, "Good God."

    16. JRJoe Rogan56:48

        Yeah, I would think a deer would be like, "Why is that doe pissing all over herself, that crazy bitch?"

    17. RSRyan Sickler56:53

        I- yeah.

    18. JRJoe Rogan56:53

        "Imma keep the fuck away from her."

    19. RSRyan Sickler56:53

        I wanna know if people really use it. Yeah.

    20. JRJoe Rogan56:55

        Yeah, they do. They use, uh, cow estrus. They have, like, a, a, a smell of a cow, cow bull. Like a, um... Not a cow bull, a cow, uh, elk. They'll, they'll put it on trees and shit, try to drag a bull over, 'cause when, when bulls are in h- uh, when they're in the rut and the females are in heat, when they coming into estrus and the, the males want to breed 'em, apparently, they just, they just smell it and they go fucking bananas. And some people use that shit. They'll put it on trees and stuff.

    21. RSRyan Sickler57:24

        So that's what I wanted to ask you. Is that more to mask our smell or is it more to attract ... they're attracted to that smell?

    22. JRJoe Rogan57:29

        I think they're attracting them, yeah.

    23. RSRyan Sickler57:31

        Yeah.

    24. JRJoe Rogan57:31

        The way they mask our smell... Like, their sense of smell is so powerful that it's almost impossible to mask it unless you use ozone. And so what a lotta guys do is there's a company called Ozonics, and what they do is they'll literally hang a unit above their head, and it blows ozone gas all over your body, and it collects... Like, your scent gets combined with the ozone, and that hits the deer, and the deer doesn't know what the fuck you are.

    25. RSRyan Sickler58:01

        Ah.

    26. JRJoe Rogan58:01

        It's like, "What is that smell?" It just do- ... Have you ever smelled ozone? Do you know what ozone smells like?

    27. RSRyan Sickler58:05

        Uh-uh. No, I have no idea.

    28. JRJoe Rogan58:06

        I'll turn on my tank, my, my, um, f- flotation tank, and you can smell it, 'cause they use ozone to clean the water, to purify everything. It's got a very distinct smell, and when you turn the tank filtration system on, you're not supposed to go in it for a half an hour and then the ozone disape- dissipates. But it's got a very distinct smell, and apparently, that smell just overwhelms the smell of human body. So when guys sit on a tree stand, like I've, I've, uh, hunted, uh, with my friend John Dudley in Iowa, and he uses this Ozonics unit above us. He sets it up-

    29. RSRyan Sickler58:38

        Oh, it's there. Okay.

    30. JRJoe Rogan58:39

        ... on the tree above us and turns it on, and it blows ozone over you while you're sitting in the tree. So even if a deer is downwind of you, they might not bolt, 'cause th- their smell is confusing to them. They're like, "What is that fucking weird smell?" Like, they don't know what it is.

Episode duration: 2:37:57