The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #1129 - Tom Papa
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150 min read · 30,001 words- 0:00 – 15:00
(laughs) …
- TPTom Papa
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Young James ready to launch. Five, four-
- TPTom Papa
We can do it.
- JRJoe Rogan
... three, two, one. (music plays)
- TPTom Papa
We can do it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Tom Papa is a motherfucking author.
- TPTom Papa
I'm a man of letters now.
- JRJoe Rogan
You're an author.
- TPTom Papa
I'm an author.
- JRJoe Rogan
I've always, uh, admired that-
- TPTom Papa
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... and secretly wished that I, uh, n- not even so secretly wished that I had the-
- TPTom Papa
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... discipline to write a book.
- TPTom Papa
You do have the discipline. You just have to focus it on that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm.
- TPTom Papa
You can do it.
- JRJoe Rogan
How long did it take you to write this?
- TPTom Papa
About two years.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's too long. I don't got that kind of time.
- TPTom Papa
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TPTom Papa
If you wanted-
- JRJoe Rogan
You can do it shorter. Oh, okay, like a little pamphlet?
- TPTom Papa
(laughs) Yeah, just do a flyer.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TPTom Papa
(laughs) Something real short.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just make a f- yeah. (laughs)
- TPTom Papa
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
This is all I could do.
- 15:00 – 30:00
(laughs) …
- TPTom Papa
what I'm doing, so it completely... And you hear that a lot. "Well, just, it's just, I guess you come from something you love and something you do," and you hear that a lot and you're like, "Well, I love, uh, working in an office and-"
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TPTom Papa
"... having a girlfriend. I'll make a show-"
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TPTom Papa
"... about that." (laughs) No, you don't. Not really. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TPTom Papa
You don't really. But, uh, but that, this actually just, it, you can't force it. It's just-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TPTom Papa
... it's just organic. And this one was organic.
- JRJoe Rogan
Did you, um, link up those different cities with comedy shows? Did you do standup in those cities when you were traveling?
- TPTom Papa
I did just, like, pop in and, uh, Neal Brennan and I did a show in New Orleans. I did a show in Cleveland when I was there. Just as a, like, pop in. I wa- I didn't, like, promote it and do it while I was there.
- JRJoe Rogan
So, were you just concentrating on filming?
- TPTom Papa
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TPTom Papa
I was just concentrating on filming. We'd go in for, like, three days. I'd meet, like, four or five different bakers and, uh, it was cool. Just, you know, just dealing with these people was amazing.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's awesome, man.
- TPTom Papa
No one gets into baking 'cause they're an asshole. You know what I mean?
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TPTom Papa
No one says, "I'm gonna bake cookies," and they're an idiot.
- JRJoe Rogan
"Fuck these people." (laughs)
- TPTom Papa
(laughs) Right?
- JRJoe Rogan
"I'm gonna bake 'em cookies and they're gonna like it."
- TPTom Papa
(laughs) Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, no, it's, I mean, it's, uh... Food is a fascinating thing to me-
- TPTom Papa
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... 'cause, uh, I mean, I guess this is as good a time to bring it up as any. Um, you know, obviously Anthony Bourdain took his life-
- TPTom Papa
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... last week. And, um, he was a friend of mine and it was real-, that was real hard. Friday was real hard. I woke up and, um, I got a text from my friend Maynard from Tool.
- TPTom Papa
Uh-huh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Um, Maynard said, "So much for the Keenan versus Bourdain celebrity jujitsu match."
- 30:00 – 45:00
That's right, exactly. …
- JRJoe Rogan
artists that cook.
- TPTom Papa
That's right, exactly.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's just, they might as well be making music or what... Painting.
- TPTom Papa
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Whatever it would be. Drawing. They're artists.
- TPTom Papa
At its best.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TPTom Papa
You know, and the same thing, like, with any, any other art form. Then there's people that just crank it out and see a way to make money.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Sure.
- TPTom Papa
And you can tell, there's, like, a difference.
- JRJoe Rogan
Sure.
- TPTom Papa
But once you eat stuff from an artist, you're spoiled.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TPTom Papa
Because then you- then you're like, "Ah, these people don't care as much." (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Yeah.
- TPTom Papa
"This is... Technically this is lasagna, but, uh..." (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Yeah.
- TPTom Papa
"This isn't the same."
- JRJoe Rogan
I know, it's fascinating. It's, it's, it's interest- The, the approach is very, um, it's very contagious.
- TPTom Papa
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know, you, you watch the way they cook and you watch, like, their, their passion for the food. It makes you hungry, you wanna eat, and you also wanna try it.
- TPTom Papa
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
At least I do.
- TPTom Papa
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I always wanna try it.
- TPTom Papa
Always, always. It's fascinating. Like, you know, I, uh...... going around and meeting all of these bakers, it's like they all got into it because there's a love there.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- TPTom Papa
And then it's really hard work. Like, these people work. They're, you know, two o'clock in the morning, they're baking.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TPTom Papa
They're, like, in there.
- 45:00 – 1:00:00
N- no, not the…
- JRJoe Rogan
You were a slave.
- TPTom Papa
N- no, not the Jews.
- JRJoe Rogan
What are you talking about?
- TPTom Papa
The bar- the baron, the guys who were working-
- JRJoe Rogan
Wernher von Braun? Oh.
- TPTom Papa
The guys who were working for the, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, right, right, right. No, no they weren't Nazis.
- TPTom Papa
... for the company. Like, to see the people being hung and still hang in there.
- JRJoe Rogan
They were Nazis.
- TPTom Papa
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, he was a Nazi.
- TPTom Papa
They were all in.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I mean, uh, whether or not he agreed with the ideology wholeheartedly ... I mean, I didn't have a conversation with him. I don't know if he was doing it-
- TPTom Papa
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... for pragmatic purposes, 'cause he was-
- TPTom Papa
He was frightened or whatever.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, but-
- TPTom Papa
"Get a disguise, get outta there."
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't think they could.
- TPTom Papa
You know, one of those glasses with the mustaches.
- JRJoe Rogan
Does that work?
- TPTom Papa
Yeah, you go to the airport, you get on this flight, come to the US.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TPTom Papa
(laughs) You take it off, they're like, "Oh, it's the NASA guy."
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, there's like a-
- TPTom Papa
It's the rocket man.
- JRJoe Rogan
... there was a slow slide, I'm sure, into that. I mean, the, the, the-
- TPTom Papa
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... the, the sl- ... Well, it wasn't that slow, but from World War I to World War II as it escalated, it just-
- TPTom Papa
Yeah.
- 1:00:00 – 1:09:38
Yeah. …
- TPTom Papa
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's, uh, he's taunting me.
- BKBert Kreischer
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause I mock his all the time. They look like some sneakers from the '80s.
- TPTom Papa
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like some... It's like they look like the sneaker version of that shitty Mustang from 1979.
- TPTom Papa
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BKBert Kreischer
(laughs)
- TPTom Papa
No, man, they're cool.
- JRJoe Rogan
The, the, the whole back end sticks out. Like, there's a, a... Like, the, the heel has like a duck bill behind you.
- TPTom Papa
(laughs) They're so stupid.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's so bizarre.
- TPTom Papa
Yeah, but, um-
- JRJoe Rogan
That Kanye West has a large effect on humans.
- BKBert Kreischer
Very interesting. They're on, uh, the Family Feud last night, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I heard.
- TPTom Papa
They were on Family Feud?
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, was it any good?
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah. It's hilarious. I have no idea. I just heard Howard Stern talking about it, so.
- JRJoe Rogan
I hope they asked him tough questions.
- BKBert Kreischer
(laughs) I'm sure they did not.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just, just to see them fall apart.
- TPTom Papa
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
His... Try, try being a book in that house.
- TPTom Papa
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
You will collect dust, motherfucker.
- TPTom Papa
(laughs)
- BKBert Kreischer
(laughs)
- TPTom Papa
We ain't reading... I don't care it's broken up into chapters. (laughs)
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