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Space Force clip & Trump/Pence reactions
- NANarrator
When it comes to defending America, it is not enough to merely have an American presence in space.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
That's right.
- NANarrator
We must have American dominance in space. So important. Very importantly, I'm hereby directing the Department of Defense and Pentagon to immediately begin the process necessary to establish a Space Force as the sixth branch of the Armed Forces. That's a big statement. We are going to have the Air Force and we are going to have the Space Force, separate but equal. It is going to be something so important. General Dunford, if you would carry that assignment out, I would be very greatly hon-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Look at Mike Pence. Mike Pence has this look on his face like, "I'm going to be the president."
- KKKyle Kingsbury
(laughs)
- NANarrator
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
He's like, "This motherfucker's gone completely crazy-
- KKKyle Kingsbury
(clears throat)
- JRJoe Rogan
... and I'm gonna be the president next."
- KKKyle Kingsbury
That's his nod of approval.
- JRJoe Rogan
Look at his face. He's got the face of a guy who knows he's going to be the president. Like, if you were about to be awarded something, like if there was some, uh, something you were about to get and you're like, "Wow, I worked my whole life for this and here it is. I'm gonna get that thing right now. I'm gonna be the fucking president." (laughs)
- KKKyle Kingsbury
(laughs)
- NANarrator
(laughs)
- KKKyle Kingsbury
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
He must be like, "This guy is never gonna last eight years, and for sure he's gonna win again. I'm gonna be the president."
- 1:44 – 5:46
Trump’s re-election chances, debates, and the “it’s a game” framing
- KKKyle Kingsbury
So, you think for sure he wins again because... Is that because whoever the Democrats decide to put in is gonna be an equal turd sandwich again?
- JRJoe Rogan
You're a super smart dude, but you're also a brute. You're a big giant savage motherfucker, right?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
So how many people have underestimated you because you're a big giant savage motherfucker?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Plenty.
- JRJoe Rogan
And talked stupid to you and acted like you were a moron?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
I'd say equal street fights, two fights in the UFC.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. There's a lot of people, right? That... And, and just people in general, like, they'll get snotty. I don't take Stevia.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Yeah, I'm glad.
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm going like my men. (sips) Ah. But I think there's a certain part of us that might be doing that with him. I don't think he is... I think he's really good at winning. This is, this is, uh, this is not a, not, uh, like a, a, a, an endorsement of him. Um, horri-
- KKKyle Kingsbury
No caveats necessary.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. I'm horrified by this immigration policy of separating children from their parents. I think that's subhuman. I think-
- KKKyle Kingsbury
His wife came out and, and said that was bullshit, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. His wife's an immigrant, bro. His wife barely speaks English. It's chaos, right? It's crazy. I hate, I hate all that stuff. These are just families. They're just people who love each other. You gotta keep them together. If they break the law, you keep them together. Get them out of here if you want. I mean, if you want to send them back to wherever they came from if you're, you're hell-bent on that, but taking them from their kids is subhuman. I mean-
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... it's beyond. It's not us. It's not what we're doing in 2018. That aside. All that aside. He's probably gonna fucking win again, man. I think he's probably gonna win again. I think he, he gets in these confrontations with people and they think he's a dolt. And I don't think he's a dolt. I think he's, there's no way he could be as successful as he's been. I know he's had ups and downs and shit like that. But like, what he... Just, th- just the way he was able to dismantle all those guys in those Republican debates. He didn't know what the f-
- KKKyle Kingsbury
He tore him, he tore him the fuck apart.
- JRJoe Rogan
Tore him apart.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Tore him apart.
- JRJoe Rogan
They had no business. They had no business doing that with him. They just were too emotionally tied up in his responses. There was so much negativity and energy. Uh, it was like, ugh. It was all this anxiety. Like a fight where a guy's in full panic. You know, you've seen, like street fights espe- especially, guys just go into full panic.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Or even just talking shit in the schoolyard. You know, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
... one guy's getting bullied.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Bully's got the crowd watching him and the other guy's like, "Well, but, but, you're, you're... Fuck you, man."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
You know? And everybody's like, "Oh, that ain't gonna work."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
You know? That's kinda, that's what the rest of them looked like.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- 5:46 – 7:22
Celebrity presidents: The Rock, Oprah, and popularity politics
- KKKyle Kingsbury
What do you think of The Rock potentially becoming president-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- KKKyle Kingsbury
... one day? That shit was, that shit blew up, but I was like, wait a minute now. If you look at the current state, and it is a popularity contest.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
And we want somebody who can literally rock the mic, has the gift of gab.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
But then you also have somebody who's doing humanitarian shit, is...... as, as famous as fucking anyone has ever been. Highest paid dude in Hollywood.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's so nice, too.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Yeah. Everyone-
- JRJoe Rogan
He's such a nice guy.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
You look at that guy and you're like, you don't, you don't question his character.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, he's a sweetheart.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, he's a sweetheart. You meet him in real life he's like that, too, although he's a big motherfucker, big giant motherfucker. (slurps)
- KKKyle Kingsbury
I think he could do it.
- JRJoe Rogan
He could win. He could win. Especially if he has Oprah as his VP. (laughs) And I'm not even fucking around. (claps hands) Not saying it's a good idea, folks, not what I'm saying. (sniffs) I'm just saying.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
If you don't think that The Rock and Oprah could win... But who would w- who would be... Eh, w- women would get super pissed off if The Rock was the president and Oprah was VP. Oprah would have to say, "Look, I'm busy."
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Why, she'd be... She's potentially next in line. That's not a bad thing. She has Mike-
- JRJoe Rogan
But it-
- KKKyle Kingsbury
... Pence nodding in approval.
- JRJoe Rogan
But she want... Eh, I would... A lot of people would want her to be president, Oprah to be the first female president to counter, like, the, the first celebrity president being Trump, Oprah counters that with the first female celebrity president. Bah. See? That's a big win.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Would The Rock be VP in that situation?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, it's tough to get The Rock to take a fucking backseat, so... (laughs)
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Yeah. I don't know about that.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- KKKyle Kingsbury
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(claps hands) I don't know about that.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
(gasps) The Rock is... He's The Rock. It's tough to get him to take a backseat.
- 7:22 – 14:48
Environmental stakes: drilling, pipelines, earthquakes, and nuclear power risks
- JRJoe Rogan
(clicks tongue) It would be, um, fascinating to see what happens next. That's what's gonna be f-... I mean, how we're gonna t- try to play this out, how people are gonna (thumps table) play this out, the popularity contest aspect of it. 'Cause it's just... Okay, if it really d- devolves into that. You know, it's like... A- and here's, uh, the other thing: how much of his regulations are helping? What is-
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Well, and what, and what do we do now-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
... that has really fucked up, maybe permanent consequences-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
... to the Earth?
- JRJoe Rogan
(clicks tongue) That's true, too, right? But what, what stuff have they implemented other than... I know they did offshore drilling, right? That concerned a lot of people. (clicks tongue) And it was explained better, to me, about the, the m- monuments-
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and the private land, uh, I've read a bunch of different, um... And public land, rather. I've read a bunch of different takes on that. And essentially what they did is bring it back to where it was before the Obama Administration changed it. So it was, it was listed a certain way, and then when the Obama Administration changed it, they felt that was an overstep. I don't know why.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Mm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And it doesn't seem to be... Um, they haven't started any, like, mineral drills or oil drills or anything in these areas. I don't know what they're doing. I don't know, I don't know if they're really just trying to deregulate things more, they feel like the government overstepped their boundaries, or if they really have nefarious ideas and they're trying to, like, figure out a way to get some oil out of a salmon river. (laughs)
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Time will tell.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, man. I mean, there was that one place, uh, we've discussed it before, up in Alaska where a lot of people were concerned that there was gonna be some drilling that takes place near, uh, near where salmon live, like, close enough that if it fucked up, it could destroy this river.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
When it fucks up.
- JRJoe Rogan
(clicks tongue) That's the, probably the best way of saying it, right? Because if, if we're, if we don't do anything about it... Like say if you put a pipeline in the earth and you pump oil through it and we don't do anything, we just leave it there, just leave it there, and we don't, you know, we don't visit it for 5,000 years. (laughs) What's it, what's that gonna be like? So what does that mean? It means you gotta keep fixing it? Okay. So you put a hole, you put a giant tube through the earth and you're pumping toxic ooze out of this tube, and sometimes it gets into rivers and it fucking kills everything. And there's... You wanna run this fucking... (laughs)
- KKKyle Kingsbury
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
You wanna run this tube under the river? Okay. And then what are you gonna do? Like h- how many every year? Every five years? What... How long... How often are you checking? And when do you replace shit? How long do those tubes last?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
I don't know. They gotta check it out. I almost got into that.
- JRJoe Rogan
(clicks tongue) What happens if there's an earthquake (clicks tongue) and those tubes break?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Fuck city.
- JRJoe Rogan
What? How does that work? I don't know jack shit about how they pump the oil out. Oh, well, that's- Do you? What were you gonna say? Nothing on that. Not those tubes, no. Well, it's, um... I mean (sniffs) it's a weird thing w- if we know for sure they're gonna one day break. Like, we're making that toxic pipeline and we know for sure it's gonna... The o- the Earth's gonna just absorb it, right?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Everything fucking erodes.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, yeah.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Everything.
- JRJoe Rogan
Everyth-
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Have you seen them show, like, uh, a five-year depiction of what would happen to our bridges if we stopped painting them?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I have.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Yeah. It looks like it happens overnight.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wasn't there a show about this called, uh, Life After Humans or something like that?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Yes. Yeah. Was that on, like, Nat Geo or Discovery, something like that?
- 14:48 – 18:41
Mushrooms that “eat” oil spills & the strange ingenuity of plants
- KKKyle Kingsbury
I bet Paul Stamets could come up with a way to fix that.
- JRJoe Rogan
How would you fix that? Mushrooms eat all the nuclear waste?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Dude, he did that. He had the TED Talk, Six Ways Mushrooms Will Save the World.
- JRJoe Rogan
And then does that-
- KKKyle Kingsbury
And then they sh- One of them was oyster mushrooms eating away oil spills.
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoa.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
So he fucking has like three giant vats of toxic waste. I wouldn't say toxic. Like garbage. And, uh, they're all coated in oil and he, he does different things to two of them. And then on the third one he puts oyster mushroom spores in there and they cover them and the other two just stink to fucking hell. Like they get worse over time.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
The oyster mushrooms grow and they grow black as the oil starts to be absorbed by them. Then they break down every single carbon in the oil until eventually the oyster mushroom becomes white again and it's fucking edible.
- JRJoe Rogan
What?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Completely breaks it down. And these are giant oyster mushrooms. Like just fucking massive.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, you're gonna get BP cocky. (laughs)
- KKKyle Kingsbury
(laughs) They're gonna, they're gonna get cocky. Like, "Look, we spill it. We got some fucking mushrooms. We're good, dude."
- JRJoe Rogan
"We're good, we're good, we're good, dude."
- KKKyle Kingsbury
"We're good, dude."
- JRJoe Rogan
"Give us three months." Damn, could you imagine a giant oil spill out in the ocean and then the scientists drop like billions of spores. "What is this, genes?"
- KKKyle Kingsbury
That might not work in the ocean, but on land.
- JRJoe Rogan
But could you imagine if they did do it and it did work and you see these F- fucking building-sized mushrooms just sucking oil out of the ocean?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
That'd be awesome.
- JRJoe Rogan
It'd be crazy. And then they turn white and they become edible. (laughs)
- KKKyle Kingsbury
(laughs) And then just gotta figure out how to do that with psilocybin and we're golden.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow. Yeah, j- ... Oh, that would be an easy fix to find some way to blend the two of them together. Don't you think?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Do a cross- little crossbreed?
- JRJoe Rogan
Could they do that? I know they do that with plants, right?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
They gotta be able to do that.
- JRJoe Rogan
H- how do they do that with plants? 'Cause they ... You know what someone told me that blew me away? That there was, um ... They were, they were making pistachio trees and they were binding them somehow or another to avocado trees, and they were making them, like, grow together to make like a, a sturdier branch structure. I mean wh- what? You can do that? You can mix trees?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
I've seen ... Yeah. I've s- ... I know here they have mixed trees but they're from the same, like, phylum. I don't know if that's right. They're close enough genetically re- related but you'd have like one base of the tree that has the roots and then different branches on that tree grow different fruit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
And you can have four different fruit styles on one tree. Like peaches, plums, apricots, all from one tree.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow, dude. I had no idea.
- 18:41 – 25:18
New York intensity, comedy culture, and Joey Diaz backstage rituals
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Yeah, it is weird. We were just out there for, uh, product development with Ana. I get to go out to different conferences and shit. So we went out to Secaucus, New Jersey, and they had like a giant supplement conference where they have, uh ... (swallows) it's basically like people that, that do the science, they figure out something really cool, but they're not big enough name to take it to the masses. So they, we come in along with other companies. We look for different things that are backed by science, piece it all together, and create something new. So we were doing that by day, and then we'd head over to, uh, New York by night. And it was cool, but it was like, it's a fucking madhouse.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
It's absolutely insane to think that people live on that tiny little island.
- JRJoe Rogan
They love it.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Yeah, it definitely buzzes. It's got, it's got its own fucking energy, for sure.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, for sure, for sure. And it's a little hostile. (laughs) There's a hostility to that. The comedy there is, uh, it's, it, it sort of exemplifies that. New York comedy's always been some of the best comedy in the country, like always. It's always been some of the best comics come outta New York. And a lot of 'em are like super hyper-aggressive. Like a lot of 'em, like real insult comedians, like that kinda, you know, that just, that style of shitting on each other.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's like they're, they're aggressively like that, but it's ... Like Patrice O'Neal was probably like the best at it.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
He was so fucking good.
- JRJoe Rogan
(coughs) He was so fucking good.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
He was so good.
- JRJoe Rogan
But he exemplifies that New York style of, "What the fuck are you wearing, man? What the fuck is that shirt?" And then (laughs) it would just be attack. And it was beautiful. It was beautiful. And it was ... But it was fun. It was all, like in good fun and playful. And, but that New York style is, uh, it's like a harder style, like a more aggressive style.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Yeah, even families talk to each other differently there.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
You know? A lot more shit talking.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, you know, I've tried to figure this out myself because e- my grandparents were immigrants. But I figured, the way I was thinking it is like if you really thought about the kind of people that were taking a chance to come across the ocean and get here in like 1920, like these were wild, desperate people. Like this was a different kinda human. They were, they were a wilder type of human being. And then, to go from that wild type of human being to like a regular person in 2018, it's only been a couple of generations. Those places is where the people stayed. So the people landed there first, and then all the, "Ah," the Polish and the Jewish and the Italian and the Puerto Ricans and all these different, different fucking ethnic groups just piled in together, just buzzing. And a lot of people went, "Let's go west. Let's fucking go west." And they landed over here, and this is why California is like a- a ... quite a bit more mellow, you know, quite a bit more laid back. And even the comedy, the comedians are more friendly. There's not like ... But there is a great roast battle scene up here too. They do those roast battle shows. Those things are pretty goddamn good.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
I love the roasts.
- JRJoe Rogan
They get nasty with each other. (exhales)
- KKKyle Kingsbury
You guys sit in the back of The Comedy Store and talk shit, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, we talk shit to each other. But w- it's fun. It's practice. It's like we're making-
- KKKyle Kingsbury
That would be awesome.
- JRJoe Rogan
... other comedians laugh. You know?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
That'd be awesome though, to be a fly on the wall watching a bunch of comedians just talk shit to each other-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- KKKyle Kingsbury
... not even worried about other people, not trying to make anybody laugh but themselves.
- JRJoe Rogan
We all talk shit unless Joey's around. Then when Joey's around, it's just try to get him riled up. (laughs)
- KKKyle Kingsbury
(laughs) When, when Joey's around, my main goal is try to get him angry about something and just, just hear him go off. And that's when the magic happens.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's gotta be something. You gotta bring up some fucking band he doesn't like or some m- food that's bullshit. (laughs)
- KKKyle Kingsbury
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
And next thing you know, he's throwing his arms back and he's fucking full.
- 25:18 – 29:30
Notebooks, journaling, and being the supplement ‘guinea pig’ (and consequences)
- JRJoe Rogan
I, I don't look at 90% of it. There's a lot of stuff in here that I have no idea what the fuck I wrote. But occasionally, I, I feel like one day, I'm gonna get it. I'm gonna be, I'm gonna wise up and I'm gonna go in here and I'm gonna go over these notes and something's gonna make some sense. But nope, all looks like nonsense. Chicken scratch and nonsense, page after page of it, Kyle Kingsbury. Do you take notes, like life notes?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Eh, kind of. I mean, I have two journals that I use for psychedelic ceremonies, shit like that. Uh, and then my desk is, it's kind of a fucking joke. I mean, it's just covered in Post-its and I'll just jot shit down on who I'm gonna have on the podcast or the supplement that I wanna try, what dose that I tried it at, that kind of shit, since I'm kind of the office guinea pig. Just any, any bullshit, but they're fucking everywhere.
- JRJoe Rogan
Have you ever had an adverse reaction as the office guinea pig, trying shit out?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Uh, many, many times.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
I was at a meeting with Aubrey and I, I forget the guys that were there, but there was some big wig guys. And, uh, you know, I show up and he's like, "Hey, you doing all right?" And I was like, "Uh, uh, no. No, not doing good." And I'd taken, um, I'd taken this form of berberine that lowers blood sugar, it kind of works like Metformin. Dr. Peter Attia has talked about that before on your show. And, um, it's supposed to help with ketone production and just inflammation, all that good shit. But I took way too much. I kind of eyeballed it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just eyeballed it? (laughs)
- KKKyle Kingsbury
I got cocky. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You eyeballed it?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
I got cocky. Yeah, I probably had three times the dose.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
And it just fucking sunk me. And I'm like, "I'm already in ketosis. I should be fine." And I went pale as a ghost and he's like, "Why, uh ... " Aubrey's got a couch in his office. He says, "Why don't you just lay on the couch for a minute?" You know? So I laid down there, fucking full body sweat. It got worse.
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoa.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
And I just listened and then I was like, "Uh, yeah, kind of close to fucking throwing up, but, uh." And that's like one of probably 10.
- JRJoe Rogan
How can you eyeball things? You're a smart guy. Why-
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Ah, yeah, that's true.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Well, I've shit my pants from eyeballing MCT oil on multiple occasions, so ... (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) We talked about that last podcast.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Uh-huh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude's got so mad. "Yeah, I'll try your diet and shit my fucking pants."
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
People get so mad.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
You, you can do a keto diet and not-
- JRJoe Rogan
You don't know stupid you sound?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
... and not take MCT oil. You don't have to. Or, you can do it intelligently and fucking measure your dose and not get ballsy. You know?
- JRJoe Rogan
But if you're, if you're the average human being, let's just say you're an intelligent ... Let's be super honest about this. If you're an intelligent, healthy person that eats a reasonably balanced diet, you still have a 1% chance of shitting your pants every day.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
You think it's that high?
- JRJoe Rogan
No. (laughs)
- KKKyle Kingsbury
(laughs)
- 29:30 – 38:23
From pelvic-floor jokes to “vaginal weightlifting” and penis-weight training rabbit holes
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, women that do that competitively, do you know that there's, like, competitions seeing how much weight they can carry with their vaginas?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Where they hold weight? They hold, like, something inside their vagina?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Those are some dedicated people. Like, I would imagine most girls, l- are like, "Vagina is great by itself. You don't really have to squeeze it until it becomes muscular and fenced in."
- KKKyle Kingsbury
You can train it, though.
- JRJoe Rogan
You can.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
You know?
- JRJoe Rogan
You can, but how many-
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Just like training the brain.
- JRJoe Rogan
You can, but how many people do it? I would like to know. I bel- If there was an anonymous thing where women can answer, if they didn't have to-
- KKKyle Kingsbury
I bet you that's 1%.
- JRJoe Rogan
How many of them squeeze their pussy all the time and just do exercises like ... (groans) Look at this girl. She's got some stuff up her punana and then she's carrying weights around and she's doing yoga.
- NANarrator
Mm.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Look at those pants.
- JRJoe Rogan
Record-setting vaginal weightlifter.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
What's wrong with the pants?
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, there's a hole in the middle of it where that rope goes through. That's one thing. It's, that's a rough-looking rope, too, man. That's like a rope that you would (laughs) you, you'd tie, like, a, a dog to a tree with.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Oh, God. (laughs) That's- that's- that's not- that's not like a- Look at this. Oh, man. (laughs) That's not like a silk rope, that's a fucking rope, man. You know? She's not bad. I don't... Yeah, I really don't like the pants. This is crazy. But it's- it's nice that she's moving through different positions, you know. She's not just standing there hitting Qi Gong with it in there. She's- she's actually, she's working it. This is the sexual equivalent to you taking that overdose of those pills or of the, of that, that shit you were taking? Of the powder? Yeah, yeah, the powder? The sexual equivalent? It's exactly the sexual equivalent because you don't want to get jerked off by The Hulk, okay? You know what I'm saying? I don't know. You can't knock it until you've tried it. I would just imagine. I would- I would enter that and roll the dice and see how strong that is. What if she grabs it like your fist and you're like, "Oh, Jesus." She's like Pai Mei when he takes the arm. Like this. (groans) Do you want your cock back? Your cock belongs to me now. Like grab, yeah, grabs it like it hurts. Like, "Hey, hey." Well, it's still gonna be wet, right? Hopefully? Sure, yeah. I mean, everything seems to be in working order. Yeah. Yeah. That's a weird thing to want to be able to do it too, carry the most weight with your pussy. Yeah. Like, you- you'd like to see... Like, how did it go from that being a thought in your mind to, "One day I'll be the queen. (laughs) One day I will carry the most wei-" To like put it i- putting it on YouTube and figuring out a way to put it on YouTube where you have pants that have a hole in them. The whole- She started somewhere. Yeah. But I'm- I'm willing to bet that seed was planted early on in life, probably too early. Mm. Maybe. I don't know, man. Different strokes for different folks, right? If- if that's what you're into doing. Some people play tennis. Some people (laughs) some people are world record pussy weight holders. (laughs) Just like, what the fuck, man? Okay. If dudes could grow their dicks... For sure. If there was an exercise that could grow your dick- What are you talking about? You've talked about that. Yeah. Aren't there tribes in Africa where they hang shit from their... They like, uh, got a penis head piercing and they hang different weights from their cock? Yeah, there is some of that, right? Just stretch it out and they'll do like- I don't think that's the same. They do like dick games where they'll- they'll be semi-hard and they kind of work those muscles on top of the cock to flex the- the weight up and down. Hmm. Yeah, but if that was like a straightforward... So like the- the penis has to be erect in order for it to be hard and if it's erect and hard... Like, it's not a muscle that you could work out t- It has a semi. ... is what I'm saying. Yeah. But then, you know what I'm saying? Like- It's more about just stretching it. Yeah, like, but if you had a weight lifting exercise for the dick, like a bicep curl (laughs) You know how big the fucking line at the gym would be if someone invented that? There wou- no one would be waiting in line for the StairMaster, right? They would be waiting in line to get on that- that dick building machine, r- Just all these dudes with their pants around their ankles, stuffed into a glory hole with a- some kind of weight on the other side. But p- proportionately, like what percentage of girls that lift weight go immediately to booty exercises? Is it 100? It's got to be. (laughs) I mean, any kind of squat rack or anything crazy, yeah, that's where you're gonna, uh, find the girls that really want to put on that booty mass, right? It's like a high percentage. Do you think the dick strengthener would make it shorter and fatter? There would be dick strengthening gyms everywhere. But would it turn you into a Coke can? No, I think it would, uh, it wou- it would have to be like you could grow it out. Like, you could g- you could actually create more tissue. What is this? What are you showing us?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
I can't find the name of this movie.
- JRJoe Rogan
A guy's hanging, uh-
- KKKyle Kingsbury
I keep on trying. This is some like Asian movie where-
- JRJoe Rogan
Weights?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
From his dick?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
They're dead-
- JRJoe Rogan
They got like all these kettlebells?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
It's a sad exaggeration of it, but-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- 38:23 – 43:08
Combat sports safety: cups, steel fulcrums, and training injuries
- JRJoe Rogan
... in the balls. What? Dude, guys blow testicles all the time. Right? I've, (clears throat) I know at least two or three guys that w- were kicked and blew out a testicle.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
In a fight or...
- JRJoe Rogan
No, training mostly. I heard of it in training. I mean, I'm sure it's probably happened in fights too, but, uh, definitely in training. One of, uh, one of the Miletich guys, like, a real promising kid had it happen to him. (knocks on wood) I'm trying to p- place his name.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Did it end his career?
- JRJoe Rogan
(clicks tongue) I do not know. God, I'm, uh, I really apologize for not remembering his na-... Uh, I, I wanna say Brian Foster? Is that who it was?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
(inhales deeply)
- JRJoe Rogan
(clicks tongue) He hasn't fought in the UFC in a long time. Um, but in training, he got a, he got kicked, kicked low on... He didn't have a cup on. It's like, "One more round. One more..." That kinda deal.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
"Okay, I'll spar one more round, fuck it." And wham.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
I never understood that, when guys wouldn't wear cups in sparring.
- JRJoe Rogan
(exhales loudly) It's so crazy.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Don't roll the dice there.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's too risky.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Mm-mm.
- JRJoe Rogan
(clears throat) Did you wear-
- KKKyle Kingsbury
You gotta...
- JRJoe Rogan
Did you ever wear a Thai steel cup?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Caine was big into that, but I didn't like that it went up your asshole.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
You know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Uncomfortable.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
That was like, "Uh, I don't know about that, man."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- NANarrator
(laughs)
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Plus they're smaller. You know? Like, they don't... Like, the American ones come at a waist-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, stop with the bragging, bro. (laughs)
- KKKyle Kingsbury
No, no, no, I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- KKKyle Kingsbury
They were... It looked like, it looked like it'd be in a tight spot, that's all.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Well, th- you can't-
- 43:08 – 47:23
Barefoot shoes & trail running: attention, presence, and flow state
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Worse than young Jamie running down, uh, the mountain in his Vibrams.
- JRJoe Rogan
D- yeah. Young Jamie tried to go barefoot shoe running. Which ones you go? What'd you get, the Vivo barefoots or the-
- NANarrator
Yeah, yeah. The, the Vivos, yeah. Super thin, super, super thin.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Yeah, I got-
- NANarrator
They're better than Chucks.
- JRJoe Rogan
I have two different pairs of those. I got one that has, like, a lot of tread, that's like a ... got a good, thick amount of tread. And then another one that has l- less. And the, the one that has less, like you could feel the difference when you run, l- like, these real slippery, steep slopes.
- NANarrator
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
I need something where I can dig in if I'm trying to, like, sprint up to the top of the hill.
- NANarrator
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't want to be worried about my footing. I want to be able to ... I'm tired at that point too. I'm going all the way up this fucking hill. I want to dig in.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Are the Vivos ... are v- do ... are they toe shoes or they have full coverage?
- JRJoe Rogan
Full coverage.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
See, I like that better for, for running.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
You know?
- JRJoe Rogan
You stub your toe on shit, you can't watch where you're s- you have to, like ... When I wear ... I like the Vibrams. I wear them all the time. I don't have a- an endorsement with any of these people. I don't have any kind of deals. But the ... what I like about the Vibrams is, for sure it feels like you- you're moving more with your pinkies.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, your pinky toes and the other toes, they're, they're like ... they're aware that they have a job. Whereas, I feel like when I wear even barefoot shoes-
- KKKyle Kingsbury
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... that have full coverage, I feel like they're like ... they're lazy. They're just along for the ride.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know, we'll just, we'll just hang on.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
We'll just take a break.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, we'll take a break. But wha- whereas, I feel all that shit activated, I might ... it might be just in my head. But when I run with FiveFinger shoes on or trail run with those things on, I feel like my foot is moving just a wee bit more than even regular barefoot shoes. Something about having all those little fuckers free like that. And they f- they're feeling the dirt the way they're supposed to. Like, they're, they're moving together the same way your hands move together when you gravil- you fall on gravel or something like that. Your hand, you know, i- it moves together. It's, it's, it's-
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's thinking of how to cushion blows and how to stop something that's coming your way and how to, how to interact with, with space. Whereas your foot is just kind of clubbing the ground all the time. I feel like with those shoes, the one thing I'm aware of is that the foot is acting, like, as an i- ... uh, all the little individual muscles are helping to push me around. You know?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
It's massive. I've noticed that on ... I mean, I'll walk-
- JRJoe Rogan
You're wearing them right now, ladies and gentlemen.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
I wear them ... and I wear them all the time.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's wearing them right now.
- 47:23 – 55:19
Stem cells for injuries & aggressive biohacking (NAD IVs, mitochondria, telomeres)
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Well, one that I really like ... I mean, all I can use right now, because my knee's fucked, is the SkiErg. And I like that. Aubrey and I will get on those and do some sprint work. Uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
And you were saying you have a ... it was an MCL tear? Or meniscus?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
No, torn, torn meniscus.
- JRJoe Rogan
Meniscus tear?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Thankfully no surgery required with that-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
... because of the placement, but-
- JRJoe Rogan
And so you got some stem cells on that?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Yeah, we did stem cells.
- JRJoe Rogan
What did they do?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Last week, we did, uh, umbilical stem cells, intranasal, uh, IV, and in the knee-
- JRJoe Rogan
Jesus.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
... with glutathione.
- JRJoe Rogan
Jesus. Jesus!
- KKKyle Kingsbury
The knee, the knee didn't hurt. Like, I thought the fucking injection was going to hurt, like they were going to wiggle it in with some long-ass needle, but that wasn't bad. The pressure, once it goes in-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
... that fucking hurt.
- JRJoe Rogan
Um, stem cells fixed my left knee. I was having problems with my left knee for years. I had a, a ACL reconstruction on that knee, and on that knee, um, they took some meniscus out as well. It's always been a problem. Like, whenever I'd work out real hard, like, uh, two or three days in a row, it was always sore. Like, I'd walk around and it was just sore and it was being ... and then I'd have to warm it up to get going. One session with, uh, umbilical cord stem cells, and then I gave it a long time off and I never had a problem with it again.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, it literally went away. It's like one of those things where I had a problem, now I don't have a problem anymore.... like, hill running, kicking the bag, whatever I'm doing. Uh, using that Echo Bike or the VersaClimber. Anything I'm doing with my knees, no problems. It's crazy.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Yeah. I'm just, I'm just babying it now. But we work with this guy, Dr. Craig Koniver, who did the stem cells. He's been doing, uh, vitamin IVs at, uh, on it for us.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
And he's a fucking savage. We'll do like the NAD treatments that Greenfield talks about.
- JRJoe Rogan
That NAD stuff, Greenfield was, uh, telling me is really, really beneficial.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
It is legit as fuck.
- JRJoe Rogan
Tell me about it.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
It feels like... We get it done in IV. We-
- JRJoe Rogan
What's the na- what's the name stand for again?
- 55:19 – 58:35
Tribalism as a human default: baseball chants, politics, and outrage bonding
- JRJoe Rogan
There was the most ridiculous video that I, uh, retweeted from Barstool. I think it was Barstool. So, just find out who I retweeted it from so we can give them credit on their, uh, Instagram. But they... It was, uh... Was it Barstool? It was a video at a baseball game, and one side was saying, "Right field sucks," and the other side was singing, "Left field sucks." And they would yell it out, "On three, here we go. One, two, three." "Right field sucks." "Yeah." And everybody got pumped up. And then the people over here are like, "Left field sucks." People are so stupid. They would-
- KKKyle Kingsbury
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Just (laughs) like, they will... S- "The team that sat on the left side is the best." Like, they...
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Here it is. Play this. Is it a Barstool?
- NANarrator
Yeah, it's a Barstool.
- JRJoe Rogan
All right, Barstool Sports. Shout out to Barstool Sports on Instagram. Look at it.
- NANarrator
... three. Left field sucks. (cheering)
- NANarrator
Whoo!
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- NANarrator
(cheering)
- KKKyle Kingsbury
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Now, these guys are getting fired up. Fuck that.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
They're so thrilled.
- JRJoe Rogan
We're not gonna take that. We're not gonna take that.
- NANarrator
(cheering)
- NANarrator
No.
- NANarrator
Right field sucks on three. One, two, three. Right field sucks. (cheering)
- KKKyle Kingsbury
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) But I gotta say, if I was there, I would enjoy every second of that, especially if I had a couple beers and a hot dog in me.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
I'd have been yelling it too.
- NANarrator
(cheering)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, man. I mean, that's-
- NANarrator
Hey.
- JRJoe Rogan
... that's what's fun, right?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
And they're all rooting for the same team-
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh...
- KKKyle Kingsbury
... for the most part.
- JRJoe Rogan
... who knows? How do they do that?
- NANarrator
Yeah.
- 58:35 – 1:11:19
Psychedelic-assisted therapy: MDMA, ketamine, and rewiring depression/trauma
- JRJoe Rogan
It was just this crazy face. (sighs) I mean, if everything works out and nobody dies, no extra people die because of Trump being president, this will be a very fascinating time to study. It would be a very fascinating time. I don't think there's ever been a time like this, man. Drug laws are l- relaxing all over the place. They're, they're pushing MDMA through, MAPSAs, to get it to use, use for therapy for soldiers with PTSD, and it works remarkably well.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
It works better than fucking anything.
- JRJoe Rogan
Better than anything.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
You know, I, I've been able to guide a couple of those sessions, couples' therapy sessions. Not the PTSD sessions, but-
- JRJoe Rogan
What's it been like?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Uh, fucking incredible. I mean, I watched a breakup happen with that. And I've never seen people break up prior to that, so I don't really have the comparison. But just seeing... It's, it's heart-opening medicine, you know.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
And I know that you haven't had great experiences with it in the past, but this pharmaceutical shit is a whole different animal.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, I didn't have a bad experience. I only had a bad experience with the come, the comedown.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Yeah, there is no comedown with the pharmaceutical.
- JRJoe Rogan
Nothing?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
I mean fucking zero. And I, I mean-
- JRJoe Rogan
But I thought it diminishes your, um, your, your dopamine levels, right?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
I spoke to... I've spoken to Rick Doblin about this twice, and-
- JRJoe Rogan
Serotonin levels.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
... yeah. And the thing is, you know, as with any... 'Cause I know it's not a true psychedelic, but with any psychedelic or-
- JRJoe Rogan
What is a true psychedelic?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
A true psychedelic, like Michael Pollan say, would be like, a tryptamine-based psychedelic, the classical psychedelics. You look at, um-
- JRJoe Rogan
Hallucinations.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Yeah, and you're, you're thinking of things-
- JRJoe Rogan
Visuals.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
... like mushrooms, LSD, you know, wachuma-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
... peyote, ayahuasca, DMT. Those kind of things would be more traditional.
- JRJoe Rogan
(sighs) You know what, man? I would, I would honestly say that I think in high doses edible marijuana is a psychedelic.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
Yeah, yeah. There's no doubt. No doubt.
- JRJoe Rogan
I, I really... I mean, I've heard people argue against that. I'm like, (sharp inhale) , man, I don't know. I think in high doses, when you're, um... when you close your eyes and, and lie down, like, sit down on a couch on a high dose, and you're really, really flying.
- KKKyle Kingsbury
I've had visuals from fucking Gorilla Glue, just smoking.... Gorilla Glue, my wife and I both.
- JRJoe Rogan
What do you mean Gorilla Glue?
- KKKyle Kingsbury
It's a strain, not actual glue.
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