Joe Rogan Experience #1134 - Kyle Dunnigan

1. 0:01 – 3:41

   Caitlyn Jenner impressions: voice, reality show flop, and political contradictions

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:01

      (ticking sound) Four, three, two, one. Kyle Dunnigan, ladies and gentlemen.

   2. KDKyle Dunnigan0:07

      That's right, baby.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:08

      Uh, headphones or no headphones? How are you gonna do this?

   4. KDKyle Dunnigan0:10

      Oh, sure. Headphones.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      Grab them-

   6. KDKyle Dunnigan0:11

      Sorry.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      ... right there. Be a Goddamn professional, sir.

   8. KDKyle Dunnigan0:14

      Yeah, baby.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      Yeah. That, uh, wh- where'd you get that-

   10. KDKyle Dunnigan0:16

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:17

       ... "yeah, baby"?

   12. KDKyle Dunnigan0:18

       Yeah, yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:18

       Why? (laughs)

   14. KDKyle Dunnigan0:18

       Well, I just noticed she, like ... She answers herself. She's like, "So I went to the store-"

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:22

       I like that you called her a she.

   16. KDKyle Dunnigan0:22

       Yeah, yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:23

       I like that.

   18. KDKyle Dunnigan0:23

       Oh, I'm very politically correct.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       Yeah.

   20. KDKyle Dunnigan0:25

       But she'll be like, "Yeah, so I went and I bought some Jimmy Choos, yeah, yeah."

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       (laughs)

   22. KDKyle Dunnigan0:29

       "And I called my sister, yeah." And so, she, like ... I think she spends a lot of time alone maybe, and she's-

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       Yeah. Crazy.

   24. KDKyle Dunnigan0:35

       ... answering herself.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       What is going on with her voice? 'Cause it, she didn't have the voice when she was Bruce. It's a different voice.

   26. KDKyle Dunnigan0:41

       Is it? I thought it was, like, pretty similar. It's like ... What's different?

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       Hmm.

   28. KDKyle Dunnigan0:44

       It's a little higher or something?

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       It's, like, numb. Like, her face is numb.

   30. KDKyle Dunnigan0:48

       Right. Oh, her face.
2. 3:41 – 4:46

   Jenner’s partner, the fatal car accident, and how media narratives eclipse other stories

   1. JVJamie Vernon3:41

      Trans, trans partner.

   2. JRJoe Rogan3:41

      Oh, this is her-

   3. JVJamie Vernon3:42

      Girlfriend.

   4. JRJoe Rogan3:43

      ... girlfriend.

   5. KDKyle Dunnigan3:43

      Oh.

   6. JRJoe Rogan3:44

      So the girlfriend used to be a boy too?

   7. JVJamie Vernon3:46

      Yes.

   8. JRJoe Rogan3:47

      Fascinating.

   9. KDKyle Dunnigan3:47

      That is ... Wow.

   10. JVJamie Vernon3:48

       Here's the-

   11. JRJoe Rogan3:49

       Wait a minute. Girlfriend used to be a boy. That's what she used to look like?

   12. JVJamie Vernon3:52

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan3:52

       Oh, Christ. The world is so strange.

   14. KDKyle Dunnigan3:55

       Oh. And then she's like ... (laughs) I just ... She's not a great person. I mean, she killed that lady with her car and then said nothing, like, uh-

   15. JRJoe Rogan4:06

       That was the weird thing.

   16. KDKyle Dunnigan4:06

       Did you see the footage?

   17. JRJoe Rogan4:08

       No.

   18. KDKyle Dunnigan4:08

       She ... It's, looks completely like her fault. She bumped into this lady who was stopped and the lady went across traffic and, and died.

   19. JRJoe Rogan4:16

       Yeah. And no one talked about it.

   20. KDKyle Dunnigan4:18

       She's like, "I was, you know, putting on some of my Lancome in the mirror. Didn't share."

   21. JRJoe Rogan4:22

       Is that what she said?

   22. KDKyle Dunnigan4:24

       No, but-

   23. JRJoe Rogan4:24

       I think she was looking at her phone.

   24. KDKyle Dunnigan4:26

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan4:26

       I don't want to see this.

   26. KDKyle Dunnigan4:27

       Uh-oh.

   27. JRJoe Rogan4:28

       I'm gonna feel bad.

   28. KDKyle Dunnigan4:29

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan4:30

       Some poor lady died. And, and no one, no one gives a fuck because the story is not that. The story is she's a woman now. She's always been a woman. She's always been a woman.

   30. KDKyle Dunnigan4:38

       I mean, it was good timing for her because people, like, ignored that and sort of went-
3. 4:46 – 6:08

   Why Kyle quit a writing job: panic attacks, midlife fear, and betting on Instagram

   1. JRJoe Rogan4:46

      Yeah. (laughs) That, that video that you did of that. When did you start doing these videos?

   2. KDKyle Dunnigan4:51

      I'll tell you. I was having, like, mid-life crisis panic, waking up at 3:00 in the morning, like, (groans) moments.

   3. JRJoe Rogan4:58

      Really?

   4. KDKyle Dunnigan4:58

      I was writing for this show, this was last year, and it's cr- it was a great job, everyone was really nice, and I ... Like, something in my subconscious felt like ... I, I don't know, like I had to get out and I, I quit the job.

   5. JRJoe Rogan5:11

      Whoa.

   6. KDKyle Dunnigan5:11

      And I was like, "I'm just gonna make videos on Instagram."

   7. JRJoe Rogan5:15

      (laughs)

   8. KDKyle Dunnigan5:16

      (laughs) Like, what a, what a great business move. Let me lose my health insurance and make videos for free on Instagram.

   9. JRJoe Rogan5:23

      Dude, you have the funniest page on Instagram.

   10. KDKyle Dunnigan5:25

       Well, thank you.

   11. JRJoe Rogan5:25

       There's no ... I ... I mean, I haven't seen them all, but of all the ones I've seen, without a doubt you have the funniest page.

   12. KDKyle Dunnigan5:30

       Well, thank you very, very much. I mean, I, I went because of you from, like, 20,000. I have now, like, 240-something.

   13. JRJoe Rogan5:37

       That's awesome.

   14. KDKyle Dunnigan5:38

       Because of you and, you know, and Tom Segura and-

   15. JRJoe Rogan5:41

       Well-

   16. KDKyle Dunnigan5:41

       ... Bill Burr also, like, pumped it up.

   17. JRJoe Rogan5:43

       It's, it's just how good they are, man. It's one of the ... It's viral. Once, once people watch a few of those ... Dude, the one that you did where she was describing the different utensils that she uses to get herself off with. (laughs)

   18. KDKyle Dunnigan5:54

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan5:54

       The weed whacker and all these ... Oh, my God. Dude. Ugh.

   20. KDKyle Dunnigan5:59

       "Yeah, I'm close."

   21. JRJoe Rogan6:02

       (laughs)

   22. KDKyle Dunnigan6:02

       "Come on, girls."

   23. JRJoe Rogan6:04

       (laughs)

   24. KDKyle Dunnigan6:05

       Asked my girls to help me out. Gotta finish.

4. 6:08 – 8:41

   How the face-swap sketches are made: apps, scripting, and time-intensive editing

   1. JRJoe Rogan6:08

      So when did you start doing the face swap thing? Was it ... Is it ... Are you using Face ... What, using an Instagram filter or-

   2. KDKyle Dunnigan6:14

      Yeah, there's an app. There's like a face swap, uh, app you can download, and there's one for the Trump. I just ... I was doing Trump at first and I don't look anything like him, so this was like a way to do-

   3. JRJoe Rogan6:25

      Right.

   4. KDKyle Dunnigan6:25

      ... do a character and have a ... like kind of (both laugh)

   5. JRJoe Rogan6:29

      Trump's as Stormy Daniels once. (laughs)

   6. KDKyle Dunnigan6:33

      Terrific. Stormy.

   7. JRJoe Rogan6:36

      (laughs)

   8. KDKyle Dunnigan6:36

      How'd you get my number?

   9. JRJoe Rogan6:37

      (laughs)

   10. KDKyle Dunnigan6:38

       Okay.

   11. JRJoe Rogan6:40

       Oh. The other one that made me cry was Kim Kardashian and Trump, when Kim couldn't figure out how to open up the door and Trump's buzzing her in.

   12. KDKyle Dunnigan6:47

       Oh yeah, it's locked. Wait for the buzzer.

   13. JRJoe Rogan6:49

       (laughs)

   14. KDKyle Dunnigan6:50

       There's a weird buzzing noise.

   15. JRJoe Rogan6:52

       (laughs)

   16. KDKyle Dunnigan6:53

       Yeah, that's when you push it.

   17. JRJoe Rogan6:55

       Oh. Ugh.

   18. KDKyle Dunnigan6:57

       Those are ... Um, it takes so long. I don't think anyone spends as much time making videos for Instagram.

   19. JRJoe Rogan7:03

       Oh.

   20. KDKyle Dunnigan7:04

       Hello, it's Kim K. I'm at the side door.

   21. JRJoe Rogan7:08

       (laughs)

   22. KDKyle Dunnigan7:08

       Okay, I'll buzz you in.

   23. JRJoe Rogan7:10

       (laughs)

   24. KDKyle Dunnigan7:10

       The door's closed.

   25. JRJoe Rogan7:12

       (laughs)

   26. KDKyle Dunnigan7:12

       Yeah, you gotta push it.

   27. JRJoe Rogan7:14

       (creaking noise)

   28. KDKyle Dunnigan7:15

       It's locked.

   29. JRJoe Rogan7:17

       (laughs)

   30. KDKyle Dunnigan7:17

       Yeah, wait until I buzz you. (buzzing noise) Okay, push it.
5. 8:41 – 11:11

   Comedy career traps: writing rooms, missing followings, and late-breakout examples

   1. JRJoe Rogan8:41

      There are a few friends of mine who are really, really funny comics.

   2. KDKyle Dunnigan8:45

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan8:45

      And they can't work because they spent so many years doing sitcoms as a writer, or doing sketch shows as a writer, that they don't have a following.

   4. KDKyle Dunnigan8:55

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan8:55

      They don't have a following on the road. But they're world class comedians.

   6. KDKyle Dunnigan8:59

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan8:59

      Do you know Owen Smith?

   8. KDKyle Dunnigan9:01

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan9:01

      He's fucking hilarious.

   10. KDKyle Dunnigan9:03

       Great. Mm-hmm.

   11. JRJoe Rogan9:04

       Nobody knows who he is. I'm like, "Dude, you're one of the 20 best comics in the world."

   12. KDKyle Dunnigan9:07

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan9:07

       And it's crazy. It doesn't make any sense.

   14. KDKyle Dunnigan9:09

       And super nice guy, too.

   15. JRJoe Rogan9:09

       He's like a great guy. Ian Edwards, same shit.

   16. KDKyle Dunnigan9:12

       Yeah. Yep.

   17. JRJoe Rogan9:12

       I mean, more people know Ian now than before, but God.

   18. KDKyle Dunnigan9:16

       Yeah. It's a trap.

   19. JRJoe Rogan9:16

       It just drives me nut... It's a fucking trap.

   20. KDKyle Dunnigan9:18

       You have only so much creative energy.

   21. JRJoe Rogan9:20

       Yeah.

   22. KDKyle Dunnigan9:20

       And if you're giving it-

   23. JRJoe Rogan9:21

       Mm-hmm.

   24. KDKyle Dunnigan9:21

       ... to someone else, you're done.

   25. JRJoe Rogan9:23

       It's not just that. You're tired all day, you're stuck in an office, and then you have to go on the road.

   26. KDKyle Dunnigan9:28

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan9:28

       Like if you wanna be a comic, you have to do sets multiple times a week and you gotta go on the road.

   28. KDKyle Dunnigan9:33

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan9:33

       It's just the way it is. There's no way around it.

   30. KDKyle Dunnigan9:35

       Yeah.
6. 11:11 – 24:34

   Cars, Teslas, subscriptions, and the business side creatives avoid

   1. JRJoe Rogan11:11

      You were born in '70?

   2. KDKyle Dunnigan11:12

      '71.

   3. JRJoe Rogan11:13

      Yeah, it's a good year for cars.

   4. KDKyle Dunnigan11:14

      You're the pig.

   5. JRJoe Rogan11:15

      Last good year for cars.

   6. KDKyle Dunnigan11:17

      Is that true?

   7. JRJoe Rogan11:18

      Yeah.

   8. KDKyle Dunnigan11:18

      What about a Tesla? What do you ... Hate Teslas?

   9. JRJoe Rogan11:20

      No, no, no, no, no. I mean muscle cars.

   10. KDKyle Dunnigan11:21

       Oh, muscle cars.

   11. JRJoe Rogan11:21

       Like American muscle cars.

   12. KDKyle Dunnigan11:23

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan11:24

       Like the 1960s to the 9... To 1971. 1971 was essentially the last good year for cars.

   14. KDKyle Dunnigan11:30

       Yeah. We like muscle ... Me, me and Joe are like both ripped.

   15. JRJoe Rogan11:33

       (laughs)

   16. KDKyle Dunnigan11:34

       Both like ... Both ripped as shit.

   17. JRJoe Rogan11:35

       But, you know, those classic American cars, there was a y- a few years where they were unbelievably cool-

   18. KDKyle Dunnigan11:41

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan11:41

       ... and then after like '71, they fell apart. So you just-

   20. KDKyle Dunnigan11:45

       (snaps fingers) Mm.

   21. JRJoe Rogan11:45

       ... cau- you caught it at the perfect time.

   22. KDKyle Dunnigan11:47

       That's ... I mean, that's what I'm known for, b- being born right at the end of muscle cars.

   23. JRJoe Rogan11:51

       (laughs) His '71 Barracuda, that was probably the last.

   24. KDKyle Dunnigan11:55

       You're a big car guy, huh?

   25. JRJoe Rogan11:56

       I love cars, yeah.

   26. KDKyle Dunnigan11:57

       I, I do too, but I drive a Honda Civic 'cause that's what I could afford.

   27. JRJoe Rogan12:02

       Well, I had a Honda Civic once too.

   28. KDKyle Dunnigan12:04

       Yeah?

   29. JRJoe Rogan12:04

       Yeah.

   30. KDKyle Dunnigan12:05

       Did you-
7. 24:34 – 27:58

   Coffee spill chaos + DNA tests, identity jokes, and age anxiety

   1. KDKyle Dunnigan24:34

      I just spilled coffee all over the studio.

   2. JRJoe Rogan24:36

      It's okay. You're not the first.

   3. KDKyle Dunnigan24:37

      Is this gonna be on the camera?

   4. JRJoe Rogan24:38

      I do it all the time. (sniffs) No laptops are anywhere near.

   5. KDKyle Dunnigan24:41

      Oh my God.

   6. JRJoe Rogan24:42

      Okay.

   7. KDKyle Dunnigan24:42

      No liquid near the hardware.

   8. JRJoe Rogan24:42

      I killed a bunch of laptops, man.

   9. KDKyle Dunnigan24:45

      I'm so-

   10. JRJoe Rogan24:46

       That's another thing about Mac that pisses me off. Guess what? Lenovo, you spill on it, nothing happens. Nothing. They make them waterproof. They make them dust resistant. They make them mil-spec.

   11. KDKyle Dunnigan24:59

       We need-

   12. JRJoe Rogan24:59

       You can spill on them. You can throw a, a glass of water on the keyboard, not a goddamn thing happens. You put one on Apple, they just tell you, "Nope, you're gonna need a new one. Need a new one."

   13. KDKyle Dunnigan25:08

       Don't blow on it. We need a lot more napkins.

   14. JRJoe Rogan25:11

       It's okay.

   15. KDKyle Dunnigan25:12

       I'm so sorry.

   16. JRJoe Rogan25:12

       If you sneeze on it, it'll, it'll blow out.

   17. KDKyle Dunnigan25:16

       Oh my God.

   18. JRJoe Rogan25:16

       Sons of bitches. Wanna go grab some napkins? Hey, uh, grab a couple of those Kill Cliffs, those lime ones. (clears throat)

   19. KDKyle Dunnigan25:24

       I'm very uncoordinated.

   20. JRJoe Rogan25:25

       Dude-

   21. KDKyle Dunnigan25:26

       This is an issue.

   22. JRJoe Rogan25:26

       ... you're not. This ... I do this all the time.

   23. KDKyle Dunnigan25:29

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan25:29

       I'm, I'm pretty coordinated and I fucking spill coffee in here all the time. It's ... You know y- it's ... Your microphone's in front of you, you start moving your hands.

   25. KDKyle Dunnigan25:35

       Yeah. I'm Italian, so I move my hands a lot when I talk.

   26. JRJoe Rogan25:38

       Hey, I got all the fucky ... I got a lot of fucking this.

   27. KDKyle Dunnigan25:40

       Oh.

   28. JRJoe Rogan25:40

       I'm doing a lot of moving with my hands.

   29. KDKyle Dunnigan25:41

       What is your, uh, what is your background?

   30. JRJoe Rogan25:43

       Mostly Italian, one-quarter Irish.
8. 27:58 – 38:08

   Career humiliations: Jamie Foxx pilot disaster and a 9/11-timed Pizza Hut campaign

   1. KDKyle Dunnigan27:58

      I did this show ... Oh, I, I, I won't go into it.

   2. JRJoe Rogan28:01

      What? (laughs)

   3. KDKyle Dunnigan28:02

      No, it's just that I have so many disaster stor- where I thought I was like, "Get ready for the rocket ship, Kyle."

   4. JRJoe Rogan28:08

      Oh.

   5. KDKyle Dunnigan28:08

      "You better go mansion shopping, 'cause things are about to take off."

   6. JRJoe Rogan28:11

      Ooh.

   7. KDKyle Dunnigan28:11

      And just always, um, something. I did this Jamie Foxx like, uh, sketch show pilot. And it ... Like, to, to get a, uh, part on a, you know, network show, it, it's a lot of auditions. It's ... You, you climb a mountain to get the role. And I was like, feeling like this is my last shot and everything. And I got there and we couldn't ... We weren't allowed to write for ourselves-

   8. JRJoe Rogan28:36

      What?

   9. KDKyle Dunnigan28:36

      ... because of WGA rules or something. And you know, you have a character, no one else can really write for it. And the people that were writing, two of them just got out of prison and they were not comedy writers, like you see-

   10. JRJoe Rogan28:48

       (laughs)

   11. KDKyle Dunnigan28:48

       Like, Jamie Foxx, he has a huge career. He didn't really ca-

   12. JRJoe Rogan28:51

       (coughs)

   13. KDKyle Dunnigan28:51

       I think he just was like, "Let me give my friends this, 'cause I got all this other stuff going on."

   14. JRJoe Rogan28:54

       He just didn't give a fuck?

   15. KDKyle Dunnigan28:55

       He just didn't need it. He didn't need it. No, he would show up like once a week. (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan28:58

       No?

   17. KDKyle Dunnigan28:58

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan28:59

       Really?

   19. KDKyle Dunnigan29:00

       Yeah. He's busy. And he'd come in, he'd come in with glasses.

   20. JRJoe Rogan29:03

       Oh.

   21. KDKyle Dunnigan29:03

       Like shade. And we'd go and we'd read the script and there'd be no ending or seemingly point. And then, I remember one time he threw the script in the air and he was like, "Fuck the script! Do you! You do you!" You know? And he walked out and the executives were like, "No, you can't do you. You do the script."

   22. JRJoe Rogan29:17

       Ah!

   23. KDKyle Dunnigan29:17

       It was like that.

   24. JRJoe Rogan29:18

       (laughs)

   25. KDKyle Dunnigan29:18

       It was like, you climb this mountain and there's an Arby's at the top. Just like-

   26. JRJoe Rogan29:22

       Oh, no.

   27. KDKyle Dunnigan29:22

       You think that there's gonna be ... These writers called me into their office once and they were like, uh, "Yeah, we have this idea for these, these guys," who never wrote sk- sketch before. And they were like, "This idea," like, "You're, you're Jimmy Bond. You know James Bond? You're Jimmy Bond. All right? And you're, you're in an airplane, right?" And they're like, "Take it, take it." And the next day I'd be like, "Yeah, and you order like a soda, like a, like a, like a Coca-Cola or a Sprite. Or like a, uh," and he'd point, like a, like a Mountain Dew, "a Mountain Dew or a Diet Coke." And I'm like, "Uh-huh." And then that was it.

   28. JRJoe Rogan29:53

       (laughs)

   29. KDKyle Dunnigan29:53

       And then I, I just was sitting there in dead silence, like ...

   30. JRJoe Rogan29:57

       What?
9. 38:08 – 50:25

   Sexuality, kinks, and how early experiences “link” preferences

   1. KDKyle Dunnigan38:08

      ... what are you into? What's the freakiest thing you're into? (laughs)

   2. JRJoe Rogan38:11

      (laughs) I'm l- surprisingly tame. I'm not into anything freaky. I've never even done, like, whipped cream or anything.

   3. KDKyle Dunnigan38:17

      Mm.

   4. JRJoe Rogan38:18

      Hot ch- hot chocolate or-

   5. KDKyle Dunnigan38:19

      What about when a girl asks you to, like, choke her a little? How do you feel about that?

   6. JRJoe Rogan38:24

      Um...

   7. KDKyle Dunnigan38:25

      That's a scary request.

   8. JRJoe Rogan38:27

      I'm not into that. I'm not... Um, I had a girl that I used to date who, uh, wanted me to rape her. She told me to rape her.

   9. KDKyle Dunnigan38:34

      Ah, that's, that's, mm-hmm, that's tough. That's tough.

   10. JRJoe Rogan38:36

       And the problem was she was fucking hot. And I was like, "I do not want to get interested in doing this." Like, the, the, the worst thing-

   11. KDKyle Dunnigan38:45

       Right.

   12. JRJoe Rogan38:45

       ... would be-

   13. KDKyle Dunnigan38:45

       You really liked that.

   14. JRJoe Rogan38:46

       Yeah, because I was in my 20s. What if, what if I just had a connection?

   15. KDKyle Dunnigan38:50

       Become your thing.

   16. JRJoe Rogan38:50

       I b- I got into, like, only girls that want you to, like, force them to do shit.

   17. KDKyle Dunnigan38:54

       That's, that's very true. When you are young and you're forming your sexuality-

   18. JRJoe Rogan38:59

       Uh-huh.

   19. KDKyle Dunnigan38:59

       ... whatever you first got your... Like, when I first danced with a girl and, and I noticed her hips were wide, I, I got, like, a boner. It was, like, in eighth grade, because it was like-

   20. JRJoe Rogan39:09

       Mm-hmm.

   21. KDKyle Dunnigan39:09

       ... this is, she's different. And it link-

   22. JRJoe Rogan39:12

       Yeah.

   23. KDKyle Dunnigan39:12

       And for years, till I was, like, in my early 30s, I could not dance with a girl without getting a hard-on. I was at a wedding once and I asked this girl to da- like, I never do this, but she was, like, alone, and she was hot. And I get on the dance floor, and my mother's there, and I got, like, a boner.

   24. JRJoe Rogan39:30

       (laughs)

   25. KDKyle Dunnigan39:30

       And I don't know this girl at all. And I had to tell her, because, you know, you know, like, your wedding pants are, are not keeping things at bay.

   26. JRJoe Rogan39:39

       No. No.

   27. KDKyle Dunnigan39:40

       And so full pitched, and I... She probably already knew, so I was like, "I'm, I'm sorry. C- can you help me o- off, off the floor?" And I had to... How humiliating is this? I had to ask this girl to, like, s- shimmer me off the floor away from my mother.

   28. JRJoe Rogan39:53

       Did she think it was funny?

   29. KDKyle Dunnigan39:54

       (laughs) Yeah, she had a good, luckily good sense of humor about it, but it was humiliating.

   30. JRJoe Rogan39:59

       (sighs) That's lucky. Well, there's not... Well, she sh- well, I shouldn't say she should be flattered, but a girl with good sense of humor-
10. 50:25 – 1:21:39

    Hollywood psychology: auditions, rejection, casting power dynamics, and actors’ stress

    1. KDKyle Dunnigan50:25

       Did you guys talk about it or did that sort of end the relationship and you moved away?

    2. JRJoe Rogan50:29

       No, no, no. She brought it up, um, and I said ... Well, she- this, this was the fucked up thing was she wasn't in any way overweight. Like, she was beautiful. She had great body. She just, it was just like a weird ... She was an actress, you know? And I think that, that pre- the pressure of that gig-

    3. KDKyle Dunnigan50:48

       Mm-hmm.

    4. JRJoe Rogan50:48

       ... is just so crazy.

    5. KDKyle Dunnigan50:50

       Yeah.

    6. JRJoe Rogan50:50

       It's just, first of all, you take someone who most of the time, the reason why they want to become an actor is because they didn't get enough attention. That's a lot of what causes it, especially if you have like this weird sort of non-specific desire for fame.

    7. KDKyle Dunnigan51:07

       Yeah.

    8. JRJoe Rogan51:07

       It's not like you, you're a really good character actress. You know, you're a Faye Dunaway or someone like that. You're just really good at ... You love the craft of-

    9. KDKyle Dunnigan51:16

       Right.

    10. JRJoe Rogan51:16

        ... creating a character. No, there's a lot of them that just want to be famous. And why, why is that? It's usually there's something fucked up from childhood. Usually somebody wasn't paying attention to them. Parents split up. Something went wrong, right?

    11. KDKyle Dunnigan51:30

        Yeah.

    12. JRJoe Rogan51:31

        So you take this person that's super insecure and has this exorbitant need for attention, and then you put them through this audition process.

    13. KDKyle Dunnigan51:37

        Ugh.

    14. JRJoe Rogan51:37

        The audition process is the craziest thing ever. It d- it d- devastates people's self-esteem-

    15. KDKyle Dunnigan51:42

        It's, yeah.

    16. JRJoe Rogan51:42

        ... because you just get rejected all the time, rejected all the time.

    17. KDKyle Dunnigan51:45

        Yeah, you're not selling a t-shirt that no one wants, you're selling yourself, like ...

    18. JRJoe Rogan51:48

        Yeah. Dude, I used to date this girl when I first moved to LA. (coughs) And when she would go on auditions when, if she would get rejected, she would want to fuck like a wild animal.

    19. KDKyle Dunnigan52:00

        Mm-hmm.

    20. JRJoe Rogan52:00

        It's like she wanted something to just like, she wanna just fucking scream too.

    21. KDKyle Dunnigan52:06

        Validation.

    22. JRJoe Rogan52:06

        She wanna (screams) .

    23. KDKyle Dunnigan52:07

        Yeah.

    24. JRJoe Rogan52:08

        She was s- It was like the stress of it all was so crazy. She wanted validation. She wanted to blow off steam.

    25. KDKyle Dunnigan52:14

        Yeah.

    26. JRJoe Rogan52:15

        It was just the, the stress of it all. It's so unhealthy, and the people that go into that are some of the most, th- l- the least ... It, it's the least advisable career path for them-

    27. KDKyle Dunnigan52:28

        Yeah.

    28. JRJoe Rogan52:29

        ... to be healthy.

    29. KDKyle Dunnigan52:29

        Exactly. Yeah. It attracts the wrong people.

    30. JRJoe Rogan52:33

        Yeah. It's just a fucked up situation. You have these people judging you. Like, "Come on in, Kyle."

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