Joe Rogan Experience #1134 - Kyle Dunnigan

1. 0:01 – 1:48

   Caitlyn Jenner impressions and why her reality show flopped

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:01

      (ticking sound) Four, three, two, one. Kyle Dunnigan, ladies and gentlemen.

   2. KDKyle Dunnigan0:07

      That's right, baby.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:08

      Uh, headphones or no headphones? How are you gonna do this?

   4. KDKyle Dunnigan0:10

      Oh, sure. Headphones.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      Grab them-

   6. KDKyle Dunnigan0:11

      Sorry.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      ... right there. Be a Goddamn professional, sir.

   8. KDKyle Dunnigan0:14

      Yeah, baby.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      Yeah. That, uh, wh- where'd you get that-

   10. KDKyle Dunnigan0:16

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:17

       ... "yeah, baby"?

   12. KDKyle Dunnigan0:18

       Yeah, yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:18

       Why? (laughs)

   14. KDKyle Dunnigan0:18

       Well, I just noticed she, like ... She answers herself. She's like, "So I went to the store-"

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:22

       I like that you called her a she.

   16. KDKyle Dunnigan0:22

       Yeah, yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:23

       I like that.

   18. KDKyle Dunnigan0:23

       Oh, I'm very politically correct.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       Yeah.

   20. KDKyle Dunnigan0:25

       But she'll be like, "Yeah, so I went and I bought some Jimmy Choos, yeah, yeah."

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       (laughs)

   22. KDKyle Dunnigan0:29

       "And I called my sister, yeah." And so, she, like ... I think she spends a lot of time alone maybe, and she's-

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       Yeah. Crazy.

   24. KDKyle Dunnigan0:35

       ... answering herself.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       What is going on with her voice? 'Cause it, she didn't have the voice when she was Bruce. It's a different voice.

   26. KDKyle Dunnigan0:41

       Is it? I thought it was, like, pretty similar. It's like ... What's different?

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       Hmm.

   28. KDKyle Dunnigan0:44

       It's a little higher or something?

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       It's, like, numb. Like, her face is numb.

   30. KDKyle Dunnigan0:48

       Right. Oh, her face.
2. 1:48 – 3:41

   Politics, contradictions, and the Jenner ‘traditionalist’ controversy

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:48

      ... she doesn't believe in gay marriage.

   2. KDKyle Dunnigan1:51

      That ...

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:51

      (laughs)

   4. KDKyle Dunnigan1:53

      That's when I l- ... Like, I was on her side and then, like, "Yeah, she's a-"

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:57

      Yeah, why not?

   6. KDKyle Dunnigan1:58

      You know, "supporter." I mean, what ... How?

   7. JRJoe Rogan2:02

      She said, "Well, I'm kind of a traditionalist."

   8. KDKyle Dunnigan2:03

      "Yeah, I'm a traditional girl, so yeah."

   9. JRJoe Rogan2:05

      Yeah. (laughs)

   10. KDKyle Dunnigan2:06

       And on E- and Ellen is a very ... Maybe one of the wittiest people, you know, very witty. And she went like this, "W- well, what ... how, uh ..." Like, she was completely lost for words.

   11. JRJoe Rogan2:16

       Yeah.

   12. KDKyle Dunnigan2:17

       Because it's ... It makes no sense, it's-

   13. JRJoe Rogan2:20

       Well, Ellen held her feet to the fire, and they're big feet. She, she, she burned those feet.

   14. KDKyle Dunnigan2:24

       "I held my-"

   15. JRJoe Rogan2:25

       (laughs)

   16. KDKyle Dunnigan2:25

       "... 17 Jimmy Choos to the fire, baby."

   17. JRJoe Rogan2:27

       (laughs)

   18. KDKyle Dunnigan2:28

       "Yeah, baby."

   19. JRJoe Rogan2:29

       She's got to order those custom, right?

   20. KDKyle Dunnigan2:30

       Oh, yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan2:31

       There's no, no way around it.

   22. KDKyle Dunnigan2:31

       Sure. I, I, um, you know, for her to be against any group that-

   23. JRJoe Rogan2:38

       Yeah.

   24. KDKyle Dunnigan2:38

       She's been ... She knows what it feels like to be shunned or-

   25. JRJoe Rogan2:42

       Yeah.

   26. KDKyle Dunnigan2:43

       Unbelievable.

   27. JRJoe Rogan2:44

       It's just crazy. She's just decided that she's a woman.

   28. KDKyle Dunnigan2:47

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan2:47

       A Republican woman.

   30. KDKyle Dunnigan2:48

       And she's like, "Ew, lesbians gross."
3. 3:41 – 4:46

   Jenner’s partner, the fatal car accident, and media attention priorities

   1. JVJamie Vernon3:41

      Trans, trans partner.

   2. JRJoe Rogan3:41

      Oh, this is her-

   3. JVJamie Vernon3:42

      Girlfriend.

   4. JRJoe Rogan3:43

      ... girlfriend.

   5. KDKyle Dunnigan3:43

      Oh.

   6. JRJoe Rogan3:44

      So the girlfriend used to be a boy too?

   7. JVJamie Vernon3:46

      Yes.

   8. JRJoe Rogan3:47

      Fascinating.

   9. KDKyle Dunnigan3:47

      That is ... Wow.

   10. JVJamie Vernon3:48

       Here's the-

   11. JRJoe Rogan3:49

       Wait a minute. Girlfriend used to be a boy. That's what she used to look like?

   12. JVJamie Vernon3:52

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan3:52

       Oh, Christ. The world is so strange.

   14. KDKyle Dunnigan3:55

       Oh. And then she's like ... (laughs) I just ... She's not a great person. I mean, she killed that lady with her car and then said nothing, like, uh-

   15. JRJoe Rogan4:06

       That was the weird thing.

   16. KDKyle Dunnigan4:06

       Did you see the footage?

   17. JRJoe Rogan4:08

       No.

   18. KDKyle Dunnigan4:08

       She ... It's, looks completely like her fault. She bumped into this lady who was stopped and the lady went across traffic and, and died.

   19. JRJoe Rogan4:16

       Yeah. And no one talked about it.

   20. KDKyle Dunnigan4:18

       She's like, "I was, you know, putting on some of my Lancome in the mirror. Didn't share."

   21. JRJoe Rogan4:22

       Is that what she said?

   22. KDKyle Dunnigan4:24

       No, but-

   23. JRJoe Rogan4:24

       I think she was looking at her phone.

   24. KDKyle Dunnigan4:26

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan4:26

       I don't want to see this.

   26. KDKyle Dunnigan4:27

       Uh-oh.

   27. JRJoe Rogan4:28

       I'm gonna feel bad.

   28. KDKyle Dunnigan4:29

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan4:30

       Some poor lady died. And, and no one, no one gives a fuck because the story is not that. The story is she's a woman now. She's always been a woman. She's always been a woman.

   30. KDKyle Dunnigan4:38

       I mean, it was good timing for her because people, like, ignored that and sort of went-
4. 4:46 – 6:08

   Midlife panic to Instagram leap: quitting the writing job

   1. JRJoe Rogan4:46

      Yeah. (laughs) That, that video that you did of that. When did you start doing these videos?

   2. KDKyle Dunnigan4:51

      I'll tell you. I was having, like, mid-life crisis panic, waking up at 3:00 in the morning, like, (groans) moments.

   3. JRJoe Rogan4:58

      Really?

   4. KDKyle Dunnigan4:58

      I was writing for this show, this was last year, and it's cr- it was a great job, everyone was really nice, and I ... Like, something in my subconscious felt like ... I, I don't know, like I had to get out and I, I quit the job.

   5. JRJoe Rogan5:11

      Whoa.

   6. KDKyle Dunnigan5:11

      And I was like, "I'm just gonna make videos on Instagram."

   7. JRJoe Rogan5:15

      (laughs)

   8. KDKyle Dunnigan5:16

      (laughs) Like, what a, what a great business move. Let me lose my health insurance and make videos for free on Instagram.

   9. JRJoe Rogan5:23

      Dude, you have the funniest page on Instagram.

   10. KDKyle Dunnigan5:25

       Well, thank you.

   11. JRJoe Rogan5:25

       There's no ... I ... I mean, I haven't seen them all, but of all the ones I've seen, without a doubt you have the funniest page.

   12. KDKyle Dunnigan5:30

       Well, thank you very, very much. I mean, I, I went because of you from, like, 20,000. I have now, like, 240-something.

   13. JRJoe Rogan5:37

       That's awesome.

   14. KDKyle Dunnigan5:38

       Because of you and, you know, and Tom Segura and-

   15. JRJoe Rogan5:41

       Well-

   16. KDKyle Dunnigan5:41

       ... Bill Burr also, like, pumped it up.

   17. JRJoe Rogan5:43

       It's, it's just how good they are, man. It's one of the ... It's viral. Once, once people watch a few of those ... Dude, the one that you did where she was describing the different utensils that she uses to get herself off with. (laughs)

   18. KDKyle Dunnigan5:54

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan5:54

       The weed whacker and all these ... Oh, my God. Dude. Ugh.

   20. KDKyle Dunnigan5:59

       "Yeah, I'm close."

   21. JRJoe Rogan6:02

       (laughs)

   22. KDKyle Dunnigan6:02

       "Come on, girls."

   23. JRJoe Rogan6:04

       (laughs)

   24. KDKyle Dunnigan6:05

       Asked my girls to help me out. Gotta finish.

5. 6:08 – 20:41

   How the face-swap videos are made (and why they take forever)

   1. JRJoe Rogan6:08

      So when did you start doing the face swap thing? Was it ... Is it ... Are you using Face ... What, using an Instagram filter or-

   2. KDKyle Dunnigan6:14

      Yeah, there's an app. There's like a face swap, uh, app you can download, and there's one for the Trump. I just ... I was doing Trump at first and I don't look anything like him, so this was like a way to do-

   3. JRJoe Rogan6:25

      Right.

   4. KDKyle Dunnigan6:25

      ... do a character and have a ... like kind of (both laugh)

   5. JRJoe Rogan6:29

      Trump's as Stormy Daniels once. (laughs)

   6. KDKyle Dunnigan6:33

      Terrific. Stormy.

   7. JRJoe Rogan6:36

      (laughs)

   8. KDKyle Dunnigan6:36

      How'd you get my number?

   9. JRJoe Rogan6:37

      (laughs)

   10. KDKyle Dunnigan6:38

       Okay.

   11. JRJoe Rogan6:40

       Oh. The other one that made me cry was Kim Kardashian and Trump, when Kim couldn't figure out how to open up the door and Trump's buzzing her in.

   12. KDKyle Dunnigan6:47

       Oh yeah, it's locked. Wait for the buzzer.

   13. JRJoe Rogan6:49

       (laughs)

   14. KDKyle Dunnigan6:50

       There's a weird buzzing noise.

   15. JRJoe Rogan6:52

       (laughs)

   16. KDKyle Dunnigan6:53

       Yeah, that's when you push it.

   17. JRJoe Rogan6:55

       Oh. Ugh.

   18. KDKyle Dunnigan6:57

       Those are ... Um, it takes so long. I don't think anyone spends as much time making videos for Instagram.

   19. JRJoe Rogan7:03

       Oh.

   20. KDKyle Dunnigan7:04

       Hello, it's Kim K. I'm at the side door.

   21. JRJoe Rogan7:08

       (laughs)

   22. KDKyle Dunnigan7:08

       Okay, I'll buzz you in.

   23. JRJoe Rogan7:10

       (laughs)

   24. KDKyle Dunnigan7:10

       The door's closed.

   25. JRJoe Rogan7:12

       (laughs)

   26. KDKyle Dunnigan7:12

       Yeah, you gotta push it.

   27. JRJoe Rogan7:14

       (creaking noise)

   28. KDKyle Dunnigan7:15

       It's locked.

   29. JRJoe Rogan7:17

       (laughs)

   30. KDKyle Dunnigan7:17

       Yeah, wait until I buzz you. (buzzing noise) Okay, push it.
6. 20:41 – 22:32

   Monetization, business blind spots, and Instagram as a touring engine

   1. JRJoe Rogan20:41

      So, when you decided to do this, there's no re- I mean, unless you're a hot chick selling whatever. What do they sell? Sunglasses or some shit?

   2. JVJamie Vernon20:49

      Tea.

   3. KDKyle Dunnigan20:49

      Makeup.

   4. JRJoe Rogan20:50

      Tea?

   5. JVJamie Vernon20:50

      Detox tea.

   6. JRJoe Rogan20:50

      Skinny tea, detox tea.

   7. KDKyle Dunnigan20:52

      Skinny tea.

   8. JRJoe Rogan20:52

      Yeah, unless you're ... I've never made a fucking penny off of Instagram. I mean-

   9. KDKyle Dunnigan20:56

      Neither have I.

   10. JRJoe Rogan20:57

       Have ... Neither have I. You haven't either?

   11. KDKyle Dunnigan20:58

       Well, I've actually just ... Ticket sales I have, I guess.

   12. JRJoe Rogan21:01

       Right, right, right, right. Right, yeah.

   13. KDKyle Dunnigan21:02

       But yeah, I haven't monetized or ...

   14. JRJoe Rogan21:04

       Mm-hmm.

   15. KDKyle Dunnigan21:04

       I haven't been thinking about that. I, I just kinda ... I, I feel good if people like it. It just makes me feel like I have some purpose or something.

   16. JRJoe Rogan21:11

       Yeah.

   17. KDKyle Dunnigan21:12

       You know, that I feel like I've done something. And, um, building ... If I could build an audience and that come to my shows, I'll be really happy about that.

   18. JRJoe Rogan21:20

       So, you were doing mostly clubs before, and now you're moving into theaters? Is that what's going on?

   19. KDKyle Dunnigan21:25

       Yeah, yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan21:25

       And this is all ov- over the last few months?

   21. KDKyle Dunnigan21:28

       100% from Instagram.

   22. JRJoe Rogan21:29

       Wow, that's incredible.

   23. KDKyle Dunnigan21:30

       It is.

   24. JRJoe Rogan21:30

       So, it worked.

   25. KDKyle Dunnigan21:31

       It ... Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan21:31

       You're a success story.

   27. KDKyle Dunnigan21:33

       Well, I mean ...

   28. JRJoe Rogan21:34

       It's working.

   29. KDKyle Dunnigan21:35

       It's working, yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan21:36

       Yeah. That's fucking great.
7. 22:32 – 26:54

   Name/branding, Instagram as a ‘show,’ and a coffee spill detour

   1. JRJoe Rogan22:32

      But then they go immediately to the lipstick. (laughs) Oh, oh, it's just so perfect, because, like, Instagram is almost like you have optimized Instagram better than anybody. You really have nailed it. You've, you've nailed it for comedy. Because everybody else, like mine included, if you go to my Instagram, you have to fucking dig to find out I'm a comedian. And you gotta go looking around.

   2. KDKyle Dunnigan22:57

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan22:57

      Because there's a lot of ... You know, you could find anything there.

   4. KDKyle Dunnigan22:59

      It-

   5. JRJoe Rogan22:59

      All kinds of St- I just f- I take a picture, I find a picture, I think it's cool, I put it up there. There's no rhyme or reason.

   6. KDKyle Dunnigan23:05

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan23:05

      Yours is like a show. Like, your Instagram page, kyledunnigan1.

   8. KDKyle Dunnigan23:10

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan23:10

      You gotta go to kyledunnigan1.

   10. KDKyle Dunnigan23:11

       Kyle Dunnigan1.

   11. JRJoe Rogan23:11

       Why not 1?

   12. KDKyle Dunnigan23:12

       Which my, my nep- there was a Kyle Dunnigan. He's got in all my Gmail accounts. He, he grabbed everything.

   13. JRJoe Rogan23:17

       That son of a bitch.

   14. KDKyle Dunnigan23:17

       He's a young kid. And I asked my nephew, I'm like, "What should I ... " 'Cause over Christmas, I'm like, "I'm just gonna do Instagram videos and see what happens." And I was like, "What should I do different?" And he's like, "You should take the 1 out. That's stupid."

   15. JRJoe Rogan23:28

       Yeah, the 1 is stupid.

   16. KDKyle Dunnigan23:28

       'Cause his 1s are ...

   17. JRJoe Rogan23:30

       Yeah, it's stupid. Why'd you go with 1?

   18. KDKyle Dunnigan23:31

       Can't change it now, though.

   19. JRJoe Rogan23:32

       How about The Real Kyle Dunnigan?

   20. KDKyle Dunnigan23:33

       I should ... I don't ... That's the thing. Marketing's not my thing.

   21. JRJoe Rogan23:37

       The Real-

   22. KDKyle Dunnigan23:37

       The, I Am Kyle Dunnigan.

   23. JRJoe Rogan23:39

       Ooh.

   24. KDKyle Dunnigan23:39

       That's another one.

   25. JRJoe Rogan23:39

       That's another one. People do that.

   26. KDKyle Dunnigan23:41

       Kyle Dunnigan Comedy would've been fun.

   27. JRJoe Rogan23:42

       Hmm, that's a good one.

   28. KDKyle Dunnigan23:43

       But it's 10-

   29. JRJoe Rogan23:44

       It's a lot of words, lot of letters.

   30. KDKyle Dunnigan23:45

       Yeah. It's, uh, I think Instagram is just, like, in my wheelhouse. Like, I like to edit, I like to do quick, you know, stuff.
8. 26:54 – 50:25

   Career disappointments: pilots, network chaos, and near ‘breaks’

   1. JRJoe Rogan26:54

      No. You're fine, dude. So, you gotta have some s- measure of satisfaction that this moment that you had, that ... 'Cause see, I l- I love stories like that, because you had this moment where you're like, "I can't ... Like I gotta do something. I can't do this anymore."

   2. KDKyle Dunnigan27:11

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan27:11

      And then you did-

   4. KDKyle Dunnigan27:12

      Mm-hmm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan27:12

      ... and it worked.

   6. KDKyle Dunnigan27:13

      Yeah. I, I, I'm really ... I, I'm sleeping a lot better. And you know, I had ... You know, I've been in this business for a long time, and, uh, there's been so many ... I mean, I could talk for nine hours about the disappointments. But I still feel lucky, you know, that I got ... You know, that I w- I was able to, like, make a living or whatever. But, uh, there is some luck involved. I mean, I, I was lucky you came across it and, um ... I mean, I've had so many ...

   7. JRJoe Rogan27:41

      I wish I knew who told me about you. I wish I could remember. It might've been Tom.

   8. KDKyle Dunnigan27:46

      Tom ... Yeah, Tom ... It probably was Tom. He was pretty-

   9. JRJoe Rogan27:50

      It was a comic. I'm pretty sure it was a comic.

   10. KDKyle Dunnigan27:53

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan27:53

       It might've been Tom.

   12. KDKyle Dunnigan27:54

       He was the first one to repost one of mine, I think.

   13. JRJoe Rogan27:56

       (laughs) Maybe that's what it was.

   14. KDKyle Dunnigan27:58

       I did this show ... Oh, I, I, I won't go into it.

   15. JRJoe Rogan28:01

       What? (laughs)

   16. KDKyle Dunnigan28:02

       No, it's just that I have so many disaster stor- where I thought I was like, "Get ready for the rocket ship, Kyle."

   17. JRJoe Rogan28:08

       Oh.

   18. KDKyle Dunnigan28:08

       "You better go mansion shopping, 'cause things are about to take off."

   19. JRJoe Rogan28:11

       Ooh.

   20. KDKyle Dunnigan28:11

       And just always, um, something. I did this Jamie Foxx like, uh, sketch show pilot. And it ... Like, to, to get a, uh, part on a, you know, network show, it, it's a lot of auditions. It's ... You, you climb a mountain to get the role. And I was like, feeling like this is my last shot and everything. And I got there and we couldn't ... We weren't allowed to write for ourselves-

   21. JRJoe Rogan28:36

       What?

   22. KDKyle Dunnigan28:36

       ... because of WGA rules or something. And you know, you have a character, no one else can really write for it. And the people that were writing, two of them just got out of prison and they were not comedy writers, like you see-

   23. JRJoe Rogan28:48

       (laughs)

   24. KDKyle Dunnigan28:48

       Like, Jamie Foxx, he has a huge career. He didn't really ca-

   25. JRJoe Rogan28:51

       (coughs)

   26. KDKyle Dunnigan28:51

       I think he just was like, "Let me give my friends this, 'cause I got all this other stuff going on."

   27. JRJoe Rogan28:54

       He just didn't give a fuck?

   28. KDKyle Dunnigan28:55

       He just didn't need it. He didn't need it. No, he would show up like once a week. (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan28:58

       No?

   30. KDKyle Dunnigan28:58

       Yeah.
9. 50:25 – 1:00:49

   Audition trauma and the Hollywood ‘pick me’ system

   1. KDKyle Dunnigan50:25

      Did you guys talk about it or did that sort of end the relationship and you moved away?

   2. JRJoe Rogan50:29

      No, no, no. She brought it up, um, and I said ... Well, she- this, this was the fucked up thing was she wasn't in any way overweight. Like, she was beautiful. She had great body. She just, it was just like a weird ... She was an actress, you know? And I think that, that pre- the pressure of that gig-

   3. KDKyle Dunnigan50:48

      Mm-hmm.

   4. JRJoe Rogan50:48

      ... is just so crazy.

   5. KDKyle Dunnigan50:50

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan50:50

      It's just, first of all, you take someone who most of the time, the reason why they want to become an actor is because they didn't get enough attention. That's a lot of what causes it, especially if you have like this weird sort of non-specific desire for fame.

   7. KDKyle Dunnigan51:07

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan51:07

      It's not like you, you're a really good character actress. You know, you're a Faye Dunaway or someone like that. You're just really good at ... You love the craft of-

   9. KDKyle Dunnigan51:16

      Right.

   10. JRJoe Rogan51:16

       ... creating a character. No, there's a lot of them that just want to be famous. And why, why is that? It's usually there's something fucked up from childhood. Usually somebody wasn't paying attention to them. Parents split up. Something went wrong, right?

   11. KDKyle Dunnigan51:30

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan51:31

       So you take this person that's super insecure and has this exorbitant need for attention, and then you put them through this audition process.

   13. KDKyle Dunnigan51:37

       Ugh.

   14. JRJoe Rogan51:37

       The audition process is the craziest thing ever. It d- it d- devastates people's self-esteem-

   15. KDKyle Dunnigan51:42

       It's, yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan51:42

       ... because you just get rejected all the time, rejected all the time.

   17. KDKyle Dunnigan51:45

       Yeah, you're not selling a t-shirt that no one wants, you're selling yourself, like ...

   18. JRJoe Rogan51:48

       Yeah. Dude, I used to date this girl when I first moved to LA. (coughs) And when she would go on auditions when, if she would get rejected, she would want to fuck like a wild animal.

   19. KDKyle Dunnigan52:00

       Mm-hmm.

   20. JRJoe Rogan52:00

       It's like she wanted something to just like, she wanna just fucking scream too.

   21. KDKyle Dunnigan52:06

       Validation.

   22. JRJoe Rogan52:06

       She wanna (screams) .

   23. KDKyle Dunnigan52:07

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan52:08

       She was s- It was like the stress of it all was so crazy. She wanted validation. She wanted to blow off steam.

   25. KDKyle Dunnigan52:14

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan52:15

       It was just the, the stress of it all. It's so unhealthy, and the people that go into that are some of the most, th- l- the least ... It, it's the least advisable career path for them-

   27. KDKyle Dunnigan52:28

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan52:29

       ... to be healthy.

   29. KDKyle Dunnigan52:29

       Exactly. Yeah. It attracts the wrong people.

   30. JRJoe Rogan52:33

       Yeah. It's just a fucked up situation. You have these people judging you. Like, "Come on in, Kyle."
10. 1:00:49 – 1:11:12

    Sex, fetishes, and how early experiences wire desire

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:49

       escape that bad feeling is so intense that it creates a good feeling.

    2. KDKyle Dunnigan1:00:52

       And af- after a while though, it flips too. Like now I, y- you know, um, uh, like sometimes I don't wanna be looked at.... you know, I think if, if I got into a bad spot, I'd wanna go on stage again. But sometimes ... Do you ever feel like that? Like you just don't feel like being, like, looked at. (laughs)

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:01:11

       That you don't feel like being looked at?

    4. KDKyle Dunnigan1:01:12

       You're looking at me like I'm ... Like that's not what happens with you.

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:01:15

       Um-

    6. KDKyle Dunnigan1:01:15

       Sometimes I don't feel like going on stage.

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:01:16

       Yeah. No, d- definitely.

    8. KDKyle Dunnigan1:01:18

       Yeah.

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:01:18

       I, I, uh, one of the things that I've been doing lately (coughs) is ... For a long time, I never, I hardly took any time off. But, uh, after I did my special, I just filmed a special in April, I took a month off where I didn't do any standup for a month.

    10. KDKyle Dunnigan1:01:34

        Yeah.

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:01:35

        At least, like, three weeks, right? Like three m- maybe it might have been four weeks. But I was like, "I'm not doing shit."

    12. KDKyle Dunnigan1:01:42

        Yeah.

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:01:42

        I went to Hawaii. I, I, I fucking hung out. I did podcasts. I didn't do any standup and it felt great. It felt great that I would leave here and I'd be done.

    14. KDKyle Dunnigan1:01:54

        Yeah.

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:01:54

        I wouldn't, I wouldn't have another gig to go to at night.

    16. KDKyle Dunnigan1:01:57

        Yeah. I-

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:01:58

        You know, there wasn't this, like, overwhelming thing looming in the background.

    18. KDKyle Dunnigan1:02:01

        Yeah.

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:02:02

        (coughs) But after a while, you know, I realized, all right, gotta get back on the horse.

    20. KDKyle Dunnigan1:02:06

        Yeah. I'm in-

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:02:06

        And then-

    22. KDKyle Dunnigan1:02:06

        ... joy more now. Go ahead. What'd you say?

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:02:08

        What's that?

    24. KDKyle Dunnigan1:02:08

        What were you saying?

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:02:09

        What did you say?

    26. KDKyle Dunnigan1:02:09

        I interrupted you.

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:02:10

        You were gonna-

    28. KDKyle Dunnigan1:02:10

        Who said what?

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:02:11

        ... join more now. What? (laughs)

    30. KDKyle Dunnigan1:02:13

        (laughs) He said, "What?" (laughs) I, uh, I'm enjoying standup now.

Episode duration: 2:29:05