The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #1135 - Ari Shaffir
EVERY SPOKEN WORD
150 min read · 30,090 words- 0:04 – 0:38
Speed-rap cold open, fast rappers, and the absurdity of “triple‑F tits”
- JRJoe Rogan
(sighs) Ari Shaffir speed rapping in five, four, three, two, one. (fingers snap) Go.
- NANarrator
(rapping yall)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- NANarrator
(rapping yall)
- JRJoe Rogan
"Kick that booty on the shelf."
- ASAri Shaffir
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. It's th- We were talking about how impressive Mac Lethal is, but then Ari goes, "Yeah, but you gotta read the words."
- ASAri Shaffir
Otherwise, you have no idea.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, so like-
- ASAri Shaffir
So he could be making everything up.
- NANarrator
(rapping yall)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- ASAri Shaffir
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
So in that sense-
- ASAri Shaffir
Doesn't sound good.
- JRJoe Rogan
... he's gone too far. He's like, "Triple F tits."
- ASAri Shaffir
You can't sing along with that.
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- ASAri Shaffir
(laughs) The Triple F Tits is exactly right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, he went crazy.
- ASAri Shaffir
Where, like, "I like big boobs." He's like, "Oh, do you like this much big boob?" And you're like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Shak-a-doom.
- ASAri Shaffir
... "All right, maybe I don't."
- 0:38 – 2:26
Beer-can smashing boobs, Fosters marketing, and “white trash” beer identity
- JRJoe Rogan
Those girls who crush beer cans with their fake boobs, you've seen those?
- ASAri Shaffir
(laughs) Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You ever seen those? They lie out beer cans. They just smash 'em-
- ASAri Shaffir
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... with the weight of their tit. It's, like, the most unsexy thing ever. It's like this hypersexuality gets morphed into this weird distortion where you-
- ASAri Shaffir
It's the sexual version of when your dad catches you smoking. He's like-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- ASAri Shaffir
... "Now smoke the whole pack if you like cigarettes so much."
- JRJoe Rogan
That's exactly what it is.
- ASAri Shaffir
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Look at this one. Watch this gal.
- ASAri Shaffir
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
She's got her tits and she smashes these beer cans.
- ASAri Shaffir
Oh, my God. Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude-
- ASAri Shaffir
Could you imagine?
- JRJoe Rogan
... of course they're Fosters. It's fucking bogus. Of course it's this goddamn-
- ASAri Shaffir
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- ASAri Shaffir
Australia.
- JRJoe Rogan
Australian shit.
- ASAri Shaffir
That's hilarious.
- JRJoe Rogan
She's straight from Tassie. Look at those fucking ha- Look at Steve Harvey.
- ASAri Shaffir
Oh, it's not Australia.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's The Steve Harvey Show.
- ASAri Shaffir
Uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
They just went with Fosters.
- ASAri Shaffir
Hysteric, 'cause she's gotta be Australian. That's why they went with Fosters, that kind of behavior. (sighs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Maybe they just wanted a big can.
- ASAri Shaffir
Big can smash big cans.
- 2:26 – 3:33
Where they’d live: Canada vs. Australia, and the reality of cold/rainy seasons
- JRJoe Rogan
If there was another country that I would live in besides America, or besides the United States, it would be Canada. And if there was another country I'd live in besides Canada, it would be Australia, for sure. And Canada because it's right there.
- ASAri Shaffir
Canada's too cold.
- JRJoe Rogan
Not Vancouver.
- ASAri Shaffir
Vancouver's too cold as well.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ah, you could handle it, son.
- ASAri Shaffir
I could handle it, but-
- JRJoe Rogan
You're a traveling man.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah, I skipped the fucking winter-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
... so I could go traveling. Oh, you're o- Oh, you're saying I could travel?
- JRJoe Rogan
You're a traveling man.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
You're right. You're right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Because if you're just out there in the rainy season, which is, like, nine months-
- ASAri Shaffir
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
The other (laughs) the other, the other three months are amazing.
- ASAri Shaffir
I was doing the math on New York days the other day of, like, saying how many actual months of nice it is, and it's really is six and six.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
Not even nine and three.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, it's not, six and six. Yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
Fuck.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. It's, there's, there's some rugged days in those nice months, too, you know? Those, like, those six-
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, the, the, if you go, like, it's really probably nine, but there's three months that are super sketchy.
- ASAri Shaffir
Super sketchy.
- JRJoe Rogan
You can get snow in April.
- ASAri Shaffir
You d- We got snow in April this year.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Yeah. That's annoying.
- ASAri Shaffir
I was in Australia, and I was over, like, it's snowing in New York. I'm like, "Fucking good."
- 3:33 – 4:14
Prince, fentanyl deaths, and festival drug-testing as harm reduction
- JRJoe Rogan
I, I used to listen to it when I was delivering newspapers. Th-
- ASAri Shaffir
He was great, you know, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
Fuck.
- ASAri Shaffir
... Mark Norman had a theory that was proven wrong, I guess, that, uh, Prince, when he died, he died of the last of the '80s AIDS.
- JRJoe Rogan
(sputters) (laughs)
- ASAri Shaffir
(laughs) Yeah. He said he's been fighting it hard 'cause of the money, but-
- JRJoe Rogan
This is fucking smart.
- ASAri Shaffir
... he got it back then.
- JRJoe Rogan
How dare he?
- ASAri Shaffir
But now everybody's fucking everybody.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- ASAri Shaffir
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
That's actually fucked up. He died from fentanyl, man. They all died from that fentanyl shit.
- ASAri Shaffir
Oh, God.
- JRJoe Rogan
That stuff kills everybody.
- ASAri Shaffir
They're testing drugs now at music festivals.
- JRJoe Rogan
They should.
- ASAri Shaffir
You're, they, and they did it in Australia when I was there. They do it in UK in some places, where you just come and they, they chip off the smallest amount, and they text you, um-
- JRJoe Rogan
If it's okay.
- ASAri Shaffir
... if your stuff is safe or not.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oof.
- ASAri Shaffir
And then it's way safer to do it than just fucking passing around fentanyl.
- 4:14 – 6:22
Legalization vs. prohibition: does making drugs legal reduce harm or increase use?
- JRJoe Rogan
God dammit, they need deregulation. They just do. They just need deregulation. You're not saving anybody by making drugs illegal.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You're just making it difficult to get good drugs. That's all you're doing. You're not stopping people from doing drugs. And in fact, when they legalize things, often teen use goes down because it's, uh, doesn't become so attractive anymore. P- People are stupid, all right? We're wired fucked up.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And if you tell us we can't do something, that's the thing we wanna do. That's just how it is.
- ASAri Shaffir
I will say, to be fair, I will say legalization of drugs would make more people do it. I would have to think it would. But-
- JRJoe Rogan
Psychologically, they say no, when they've done studies.
- ASAri Shaffir
The- No- There's nobody, though, there are some people that wouldn't normally do it, but like, "Well, there's a store right there. All right, I'll get some."
- JRJoe Rogan
That's exactly what it is. Look at this one. Watch this gal. She's got her tits and she smashes these beer cans.
- ASAri Shaffir
Oh, my God. Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, could you imagine?
- ASAri Shaffir
Of course they're Fosters. Fucking bogut. Of course this is goddamn-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- ASAri Shaffir
Australian shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's hilarious.
- ASAri Shaffir
She's straight from Tassie.
- JRJoe Rogan
Look at those fucking ha- Look at Steve Harvey.
- ASAri Shaffir
Oh, it's not Australia.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's The Steve Harvey Show.
- ASAri Shaffir
Uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
They just went with Fosters.
- ASAri Shaffir
Hysteric, 'cause she's gotta be Australian. That's why they went with Fosters, that kind of behavior. (sighs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Maybe they just wanted a big can.
- ASAri Shaffir
Big can smash big cans.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, big cans.
- ASAri Shaffir
Oh, yeah, maybe. Maybe.
- JRJoe Rogan
Fosters, those are giant cans.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah, they are.
- JRJoe Rogan
Maybe Budweiser didn't want any part of it, so they couldn't get a Bud Tall Boy.
- ASAri Shaffir
By the way, you know nobody in Australia drinks Fosters.
- 6:22 – 7:47
Mushroom tolerance and the ‘stoned ape’ theory of human evolution
- JRJoe Rogan
You can't die from it. You can't.
- ASAri Shaffir
You c- But it'll just stop working on you. You won't do anything.
- JRJoe Rogan
Exactly.
- ASAri Shaffir
You have to keep doubling the dosage.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
By the end of the week, you'll be doing, like, a pound of mushrooms.
- JRJoe Rogan
(snores) And that's fine.
- ASAri Shaffir
(laughs) I mean, yeah, exactly. I mean, do that. Your shits will be crazy.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, Dennis McKenna, who I had on last week, his brother, Terrence, had that theory about human evolution. And it's a very compelling theory. And there's-
- ASAri Shaffir
That mushrooms make human evolution?
- JRJoe Rogan
... that they might have caused it, but might have been one of several factors. There were several factors. One of them was climate change, like the monkeys had to move down from the trees because there was no food left. And the grasslands had taken over where the, um, rainforests had been.
- ASAri Shaffir
Okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just because of climate change. But that was the same period where all these undulates lived.
- ASAri Shaffir
One factor. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
So all these cow-like creatures shit all over the place. The mushrooms grew on them.
- ASAri Shaffir
The mushrooms grew.
- JRJoe Rogan
These monkeys that were experimental, the human monkey, started eating these things, and then started developing language skills-
- ASAri Shaffir
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
... more sophisticated hunting, better visual, because their visual perception, especially in low doses, it actually increases acuity. Been proven in scientific, double-blind, click-
- ASAri Shaffir
Really?
- JRJoe Rogan
... placebo-controlled studies. Yeah. Yeah, you, it increases visual acu-
- ASAri Shaffir
Increases your vision?
- JRJoe Rogan
Increases your ability to recognize when things are shifting, like say if you have two lines and one of them slightly shifts, like maybe a half of 1% angle, the people that were on mushrooms could see it.
- ASAri Shaffir
You ever see a clock and be able to see the minute hand move, like get zoned in where you can, like, slow-
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- ASAri Shaffir
... soar to see it move?
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- ASAri Shaffir
I've done it a couple times, but on- it's when I was little.
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoa.
- ASAri Shaffir
But yeah, that's what, that kind of acuity-
- 7:47 – 9:36
Aging eyesight, smart scheduling, and why sleep changes everything
- JRJoe Rogan
My vision sucks now, dude. When I look at a clock, I look at, like, vague numbers.
- ASAri Shaffir
Really?
- JRJoe Rogan
Like that, that clock right now, like I look at that, that little one right there.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I look at th- Those are vague numbers to me.
- ASAri Shaffir
You can't see those?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, I can see them. I know that's 12:00, 1:00, 2:00, 3:00.
- ASAri Shaffir
Wow, that's so close. That's four feet away.
- JRJoe Rogan
But, yeah, yeah, but now look at this. Bam. Now I could see all the dots. I could see everything.
- ASAri Shaffir
Get the surgery.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, it's not that. It's, it's, uh-
- ASAri Shaffir
Oh, you don't understand.
- JRJoe Rogan
... close. It's, it's nearsightedness. It's what happens when you get older. It's just macular degeneration.
- ASAri Shaffir
This is too near for you?
- JRJoe Rogan
No, no. Things that are near don't look as good. That's, that's like a good medium distance, but farther things look exactly the same.
- ASAri Shaffir
Look the same.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
Okay, yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a slow degeneration of your eyesight due to age.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
My friend who's an op- Remember my friend, Steve Graham?
- ASAri Shaffir
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's an ophthalmologist. He's like, "There's not a goddamn thing you can do about it."
- ASAri Shaffir
Doctor Steve with the, with the skier?
- JRJoe Rogan
Doctor Steve, yeah. Yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
Oh, I didn't know that.
- JRJoe Rogan
From the US Ski Team.
- ASAri Shaffir
He told me some great advice I will share with everyone. We were talking about ... On my podcast, we were talking with him about, um, the hours they put in. And I was like, "If you're putting in 10 hours, you can't be as good at 4:30 as you are." He goes, "Oh, there's ... You should never make a doctor appointment in the afternoon."
- JRJoe Rogan
Ooh.
- ASAri Shaffir
"They're tired. They're not giving you their best work."
- 9:36 – 12:11
Ari’s freedom lifestyle: disappearing to Asia, responsibilities, and perspective shifts
- JRJoe Rogan
(sighs) You're living the life, Ari Shaffir, in a lot of ways.
- ASAri Shaffir
(laughs) If it's cold out.
- JRJoe Rogan
I've told everybody, man, out of all my friends that, you know, quote, unquote, "made it"-
- ASAri Shaffir
Uh-huh.
- JRJoe Rogan
... that became successful, you went the full whole hog.
- ASAri Shaffir
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
You're like the one who never got caught in any of the trappings. You got snipped. You've said, "Fuck it, I want to live in New York." You said-
- ASAri Shaffir
Uh-huh.
- JRJoe Rogan
... "Fuck it. I want to disappear in Asia for three months." They tell you to do something with your TV show, and you're like, "Fuck you. It's over."
- ASAri Shaffir
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
And ... (laughs) I mean, you're really doing what everybody wants to do. I have one fuck you moment ever like that, really, is when, uh, I had a book deal, and I gave them the money back. I didn't ... Like, they were trying to-
- ASAri Shaffir
You're like, "I don't want to do this."
- JRJoe Rogan
... fuck with it too much. I was like, "This is annoying."
- ASAri Shaffir
Doesn't it feel good to do that?
- JRJoe Rogan
"Take the money back." Felt great. But I've only done it-
- ASAri Shaffir
Be like, "Nah, you don't control me."
- JRJoe Rogan
... really once. Yeah. No, you're-
- ASAri Shaffir
Dude, I feel-
- JRJoe Rogan
... you're an excellent actor. (laughs)
- ASAri Shaffir
(laughs) I feel more free than anyone around. I look around at this matrix level of like, "Why don't you guys have more freedom for yourselves?"
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. You've got the most freedom-
- ASAri Shaffir
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... out of all my friends.
- ASAri Shaffir
We were talking about it with Bert and Rannazzisi, and they were like ... We were talking about what we envy of each other's lives, you know, their family life versus my whatever life. And they were like, Bert was like, "What do you think I envy about you, Ari?" I'm like, "Huh." I was like, "I guess my freedom." And he was like, "I have just as much freedom as you." And I was like, "Wha-" (laughs) and I just started laughing.
- JRJoe Rogan
Who are you?
- ASAri Shaffir
I was like, "What are you talking about?" (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Fuck are you talking about?
- ASAri Shaffir
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
That doesn't make any sense.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah. He was like, "What do you mean?" And Rannazzisi had to explain it to him. He goes, "Bert, Ari could just, from here, just go away."
- 12:11 – 23:22
The craft of standup: ‘The Talent Code,’ long sets, and cross-training via roast battles
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm reading this book, uh, The Talent Code. You ever heard of it?
- ASAri Shaffir
Uh-uh.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a really interesting book where they analyze performers in different, different venues, like different things that they do, different sports, different, uh, arts.
- ASAri Shaffir
Similarities between them?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. And-
- ASAri Shaffir
I think Jackson's into that.
- JRJoe Rogan
... who, Greg Jackson?
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's-
- ASAri Shaffir
I think of, like, some of their show at points. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... an amazing book, I think, for anybody. And it makes you really realize, first of all, how many sets you should be doing.
- ASAri Shaffir
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
You should be doing a ton of long sets, as many long ... The most time on stage you have, the better. It's very critical. Like, the longer-
- ASAri Shaffir
Why do you take long sets? So-
- JRJoe Rogan
Because an hour, like, you're gonna p- perform if you're headlining.
- ASAri Shaffir
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
The most that you can do those, the better, because you really ... There, that's a different thing. When you do a weekend, don't you feel ... Like, if you do Thursday, Friday, Saturday at a comedy club, Saturday night late show, you are fucking colliding.
- ASAri Shaffir
I'm ready, I'm ready to fire. And, and, and if I do, like, th- the third straight week of five show weekends, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
Then it's, like, by the end, it's like, "Oh, you guys are getting a wonderful show right now."
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, you just get smooth.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I, the one of the smoothest I ever got was I did that, uh, Maxim tour with Charlie Murphy and Heffron.
- ASAri Shaffir
Uh-huh.
- JRJoe Rogan
And dude, we did 22 dates in a month. Oh, we were just traveling.
- ASAri Shaffir
And then you just had it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoo, you just go on stage, you're, like, in this zen state. You're just, you're doing so much standup.
- ASAri Shaffir
That's how I come back from Edinburgh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
When you do 25 straight days-
- 23:22 – 31:47
Bombing, rejection, and why standup is harder for women (plus open-mic creepiness)
- JRJoe Rogan
And you're subject to bombing a- and, like jump off a bridge bombing at any one of those years.
- ASAri Shaffir
Oh yeah, jump off a bridge bombing. The cold ... I was trying to explain to someone what the cold sweats were.
- JRJoe Rogan
(sighs)
- ASAri Shaffir
And how it's like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Horrible.
- ASAri Shaffir
... you're almost like out of it, and your, you're, you feel the sweat but it's, but you're shivering at the same time.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know what was the worst for me?
- ASAri Shaffir
What?
- JRJoe Rogan
Laying in bed at night after the show.
- ASAri Shaffir
Oh yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Going over it.
- ASAri Shaffir
Of everything that went wrong?
- JRJoe Rogan
Just (groans) gut wrenching (groans) . (laughs)
- ASAri Shaffir
Embarrassing. Embarrassment. Fuck.
- JRJoe Rogan
Beyond embarrassment.
- ASAri Shaffir
God dammit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Beyond embarrassment. Just ruthless destruction of your self-esteem. Just, "Ah, fuck!" And-
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... there's a lot of people that just won't go back after that.
- ASAri Shaffir
Why would you?
- JRJoe Rogan
Why would you?
- ASAri Shaffir
That's, uh, what one, uh, uh, uh, theory, mm, not, what's before theory? Hypothesis.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- ASAri Shaffir
Uh, (laughs) 'cause I haven't proven it at all, of why, uh, there's fewer women in standup. 'Cause my friend who's a, who researches like women's development, Rachel Simmons-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- ASAri Shaffir
... writes books on it. Uh, she said that women just, I don't know s- if it's, I forget if it's sociologically or physically, probably sociologically, are less able to accept rejection.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm.
- ASAri Shaffir
Early on. It just, that doesn't go with who they are. Um ...
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm.
- ASAri Shaffir
And so they just like don't do those things. And so you have to push them, if you have daughters, you have to push them to like try and fail, and try and fail.
- 31:47 – 38:05
Acid at Firefly: profound ‘truths,’ Kinison breakdown idea, and 80s/modern PC cycles
- ASAri Shaffir
So I had a couple ideas-
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- ASAri Shaffir
... on acid-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- ASAri Shaffir
... at this music festival.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hm.
- ASAri Shaffir
One I wanna run by you, and then one, um ... It was a fun time, by the way.
- JRJoe Rogan
What music festival?
- ASAri Shaffir
Uh, Firefly, in Delaware.
- JRJoe Rogan
Nice.
- ASAri Shaffir
Take the bus from New York and then you just go there, camp, and have a fucking good time, and I'm fucking, I don't know, just, like, laying down on my back, trying to keep my eyes open so I can... My friends went off to the bathroom, like, "You'll be here?" I'm like, "I'll be right here."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- ASAri Shaffir
I'm not going anywhere right now. And so I keep my eyes open so people don't look at you like, "What's wrong with you?" You know? Just see a few stars. And you'd be out of it, eyes open, but just out of it, and then every once ... I fucking love music festivals, man. You come out of it and there's some fucking guy dressed like a wood nymph-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- ASAri Shaffir
... walks by you. (laughs) You're like, "What the fuck?"
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- ASAri Shaffir
It's great. Anyways, then I just heard somebody go, "I never wanna get that fucked up."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- ASAri Shaffir
(laughs) Walking by me, I was like, "Fuck." Um, so I had this idea. You know how I do those, um, album breakdowns on my podcast?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- ASAri Shaffir
First Album Breakdowns?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
Um, uh, I wanna do one with you on Sam Kinison's album.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ooh.
- ASAri Shaffir
Just let's listen to it and, like, talk about it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay.
- ASAri Shaffir
And an- analyze it and stuff.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Yeah, let's do it. Let's do Louder Than Hell. Do you know Louder Than Hell you can't get on CD?
- ASAri Shaffir
You cannot?
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause it was so s- homophobic that the people at Warner Bros., they put it out on, uh, cassette, but then they never released it on CD when CDs came along. And they were like, "Fuck that fat slob." (laughs)
- 38:05 – 43:20
Signature bits, ‘Boo!’ hecklers, and Ari’s Lakers-hate sports rant
- JRJoe Rogan
But he, it's like, don't you think that that's a different thing? When you, when you have a bit, like a signature bit that you do every time you go on stage and people expect to hear it, that's a different thing.
- ASAri Shaffir
Different thing, yes, than re-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
... than regular standup.
- JRJoe Rogan
Comedy is like, when you're d- when I'm watching your set, like say if you have a new bit and I haven't seen it before, I'm, I get excited because I don't know where you're going.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And you, you're taking me down a road and then you take a left turn-
- ASAri Shaffir
Some comics can do that, though. Bobby Lee, it's like, it's just goofy, you just wanna see him do it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- GUGuest
Yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
There's certain comics that are just, like, I, I don't know, I just like seeing this over and over. And others, it's like, nah, it's all right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, that was always the case in Boston. Boston, like, all the headliners would do the same act forever.
- ASAri Shaffir
Psh, I know, that's why I fuck all them. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, that's why it fell apart.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah, right, right.
- JRJoe Rogan
It only, it only lasted for a little while like that.
- ASAri Shaffir
Oh, that's why.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
'Cause eventually it's like, "Yeah, you haven't written or catch us up."
- JRJoe Rogan
They, they had the opposite of an internet age approach. Their age approach was you, you put together a 45-minute set and that's it. And some of 'em literally only had 45 minutes, they'd been doing comedy for decades.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah. 'Cause even with dice, let's say you compare that to music where everyone's singing along with it. Musicians have new albums, and then you ex- expand that catalog-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
... of stuff you can sing along with.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hopefully. Up to a point.
- ASAri Shaffir
Up to a point, then you become the Greatest Hits.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, Rolling Stones. Rolling Stones put some stuff out today and everybody's like, "Whatever."
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah, fuck that. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
"Brown Sugar," come on, you fuck.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Let me see you dance. I heard you could still dance.
- 43:20 – 58:45
Predatory birds and dinosaur ancestors: pelicans eating pigeons to ‘terror birds’
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm sure we're gonna watch how a pelican eats a duck now.
- ASAri Shaffir
But no one thinks of that. When you think of a pelican-
- JRJoe Rogan
No. You think of, like, a cute thing that brings babies.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah, yeah, but it's a stork, that stork.
- JRJoe Rogan
They bring babies. Oh. (laughs)
- ASAri Shaffir
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Oh, yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
Oh, he's eating the duck.
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Back that up.
- ASAri Shaffir
Back it? You're just g-
- GUGuest
It didn't show the gulp, it just shows it in there.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow, look at that.
- GUGuest
The seagull.
- JRJoe Rogan
Look at that seagull trying to get away.
- ASAri Shaffir
A seagull.
- JRJoe Rogan
Look at that thing battling it out, yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah. He's like, "You ain't going anywhere. My beak is made of rubber."
- JRJoe Rogan
And he's just holding on, letting that thing pound on him.
- GUGuest
Here's one with more views.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's crazy.
- ASAri Shaffir
Oh, shit. There's a bunch of ducks. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
What an evil little fucking animal.
- ASAri Shaffir
Oh, that's a seagull eating pigeons.
- GUGuest
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
A seagull eats pigeons?
- ASAri Shaffir
(gags)
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, Jesus.
- ASAri Shaffir
Oh, he got one!
- GUGuest
Oh.
- ASAri Shaffir
Wow. That's dinosaur shit.
- 58:45 – 1:06:14
Viral racism stories and policing: water-selling incident to Eric Garner chokehold analysis
- JRJoe Rogan
The problem with Black people and white people is that people say "Black people" and "white people."
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah, instead of just "people."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, instead of just "people." I was watching this video, it's an annoying video, of this lady calling the cops on this little eight-year-old Black girl who's selling water. Have you seen it? Viral video.
- ASAri Shaffir
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Viral video.
- ASAri Shaffir
She's not supposed to sell water.
- JRJoe Rogan
She's calling the fucking police She's saying, "He's selling water without a permit," and her mom videotapes her...
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and puts it up and makes it viral. And that's one of those videos where it's, everything is in the right place. The white lady is overweight.
- ASAri Shaffir
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
She's just angry looking.
- ASAri Shaffir
Looks exactly like you want.
- JRJoe Rogan
Overweight white lady. The little Black girl is as cute as a button. The mom is, uh, the mom is talking to her in a way that's like not too aggressive. She goes, "She out here calling the police on a little girl trying to sell water. We see you, boo." Like, she's not being horrible.
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