Joe Rogan Experience #1142 - Tony Rock

1. 0:03 – 1:34

   Style talk, Android vs iPhone, and nostalgia for early smartphones

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:03

      Four, three, two, one. (hands slap) Boom, Tony Rock-

   2. TRTony Rock0:07

      Yeah. Hey.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:07

      ... we're live. That's a bold choice in shirts, sir. I like that.

   4. TRTony Rock0:09

      Thank you. I think it brings out my skin tone.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      (laughs) It brings out... It's got a pop to it.

   6. TRTony Rock0:14

      Yeah, and I, you know, I rock it with the shades on, so I'm driving with windows open and girls are looking like, "Who's that guy?" So...

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      Yeah. And you're, you're an Android guy. Y- you're a different kind of person. Android people are different kinds of people.

   8. TRTony Rock0:25

      What, what kind of people am I?

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:26

      Well, the people that, like, think about it. Like, "Eh, I don't know about this." You know? Everybody's like, "I need an iPhone. I need an iPhone."

   10. TRTony Rock0:33

       Right, right.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       Android people are like, "Eh, I'm not so sure. I think I could rock a Pixel."

   12. TRTony Rock0:38

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       I don't think I need that.

   14. TRTony Rock0:38

       Uh, this, uh, this takes great pictures. Uh-

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:40

       Mm-hmm.

   16. TRTony Rock0:40

       ... it's very easy to figure out. So I don't know. I've never been-

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       It's-

   18. TRTony Rock0:44

       ... an iPhone guy.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       It's a choice that people make. They just decide. It's a non-conformist choice.

   20. TRTony Rock0:48

       So, d- did I take the blue pill or the red pill?

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       (laughs)

   22. TRTony Rock0:49

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       That's a good question. You know?

   24. TRTony Rock0:51

       I think they're both... Look, it's no denying iPhones are badass. But it's no denying those are basically just as badass, they're just different. Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:59

       Everything's just different now.

   26. TRTony Rock1:00

       Exactly.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:00

       It's caught up.

   28. TRTony Rock1:01

       You go with what you like, man.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       Yeah. It used to be, like, if you had a BlackBerry and somebody else had an iPhone, you felt like a loser.

   30. TRTony Rock1:06

       Yeah.
2. 1:34 – 3:37

   Fanny packs return, running routines, and “cheating” with music

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:34

      Oh. Tony Rock, I'm so happy that you, uh, agree that the fanny pack is back.

   2. TRTony Rock1:38

      The fanny pack is back.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:39

      It is, right?

   4. TRTony Rock1:40

      The fanny pack is back. It's a, it's a little more stylish fanny pack now. People are wearing it over the shoulder and-

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:44

      That's, that's s- that's a coward's way out. That's a coward's way out.

   6. TRTony Rock1:46

      You still want it on the-

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:46

      And I walk. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   8. TRTony Rock1:47

      ... on the stomach.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:47

      You rock it right in front of you. That's where it's most convenient.

   10. TRTony Rock1:51

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:51

       Listen, boys, you don't have to be trying to get laid all the time.

   12. TRTony Rock1:55

       Okay.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:55

       Relax.

   14. TRTony Rock1:55

       You want soccer dad look.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:56

       You just want the convenience of having that bag right there. Why can't I?

   16. TRTony Rock2:00

       Leather?

   17. JRJoe Rogan2:01

       I don't wanna have to carry shit.

   18. TRTony Rock2:02

       You, you want leather?

   19. JRJoe Rogan2:03

       Fuck yeah.

   20. TRTony Rock2:03

       You want s- a name like Fendi or Gucci across-

   21. JRJoe Rogan2:06

       No, I don't need that. I got this right here, bro.

   22. TRTony Rock2:08

       Oh, wow. Okay.

   23. JRJoe Rogan2:09

       Look at that. It's nice, right?

   24. TRTony Rock2:10

       Yeah. It does-

   25. JRJoe Rogan2:10

       Look at that.

   26. TRTony Rock2:10

       That's very, uh-

   27. JRJoe Rogan2:11

       That's, that's nice.

   28. TRTony Rock2:12

       That's very Naked and Afraid-ish.

   29. JRJoe Rogan2:14

       You could keep this shit on you. It doesn't feel uncomfortable. You got your keys, you got your phone. You don't have to think about shit.

   30. TRTony Rock2:20

       I got keys, phone, wallet in my pocket. I'm good.
3. 3:37 – 6:12

   Instagram fame, curated lives, and the ‘Instagram model’ economy

   1. JRJoe Rogan3:37

      I know. How many people hike just to get a good shot at the top? It's a good Instagram photo.

   2. TRTony Rock3:41

      Uh, a lot.

   3. JRJoe Rogan3:41

      You can get a lot of likes.

   4. TRTony Rock3:42

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan3:43

      You know?

   6. TRTony Rock3:43

      They... That's what they go for. They go for the likes.

   7. JRJoe Rogan3:45

      Hey, it's a, it's some sort of commodity. It seems to be, right?

   8. TRTony Rock3:49

      Uh, if you're a, if you're a girl with a, with a nice body, a bunch of likes seems to translate into, uh, hosting parties for some reason.

   9. JRJoe Rogan3:56

      Oh. Yeah, that's right. Yeah.

   10. TRTony Rock3:57

       You know?

   11. JRJoe Rogan3:58

       You only have to have a certain amount.

   12. TRTony Rock3:59

       You go to a cl- Yeah, you go to a club and it's, "Hosted tonight by..."

   13. JRJoe Rogan4:01

       Yeah.

   14. TRTony Rock4:01

       And you're like, "Who is, who the fuck is this girl?"

   15. JRJoe Rogan4:03

       Well, it's the minimalist approach, right? It's like not only is it not... She doesn't display a talent, but you also don't even hear her talk.

   16. TRTony Rock4:12

       Right.

   17. JRJoe Rogan4:13

       You just see the pictures.

   18. TRTony Rock4:14

       Right.

   19. JRJoe Rogan4:14

       But just that enough is enough that people are gonna wanna go see her.

   20. TRTony Rock4:18

       It takes less and less and less and less to be a celebrity these days.

   21. JRJoe Rogan4:21

       That's a strange one though, isn't it?

   22. TRTony Rock4:22

       To be considered a celebrity.

   23. JRJoe Rogan4:25

       Yeah. That's a, that's one of the weirder ones. One of the weirder ones is getting down to just being famous for photographs.

   24. TRTony Rock4:31

       Yeah. Uh, in- they, they call them Instagram models.

   25. JRJoe Rogan4:34

       Yeah.

   26. TRTony Rock4:34

       Like... So there's an Instagram modeling agency.

   27. JRJoe Rogan4:37

       But here's the thing. Am I hater for saying that because I like to look at them?

   28. TRTony Rock4:40

       Oh, no. Yeah, exactly. The man in the-

   29. JRJoe Rogan4:42

       So why would I be upset-

   30. TRTony Rock4:43

       I appreciate-
4. 6:12 – 10:52

   Kyle Dunnigan’s face-swap comedy and how phones changed sketch culture

   1. JRJoe Rogan6:12

      Kyle Dunnigan. Dude, Kyle Dunnigan blew up because of those little videos that he puts up on his.

   2. TRTony Rock6:17

      Uh-huh.

   3. JRJoe Rogan6:17

      You ever see those?

   4. TRTony Rock6:17

      No.

   5. JRJoe Rogan6:18

      Fucking hilarious.

   6. TRTony Rock6:19

      Kyle's my man too. I've known Kyle for years.

   7. JRJoe Rogan6:20

      Kyle does face swaps with Kim Kardashian and Donald Trump. You've never seen it?

   8. TRTony Rock6:24

      No, no.

   9. JRJoe Rogan6:25

      Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

   10. TRTony Rock6:28

       Yeah?

   11. JRJoe Rogan6:28

       Please go back to the one where, uh, Bruce is telling them he's pregnant.

   12. TRTony Rock6:35

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan6:35

       (laughs) See if you can, see if you can find that one. Dude, he's genius.

   14. TRTony Rock6:39

       Really?

   15. JRJoe Rogan6:39

       He does, Bruce-

   16. TRTony Rock6:40

       I've gotten on Kyle for so long, why haven't I found one?

   17. JRJoe Rogan6:41

       He, he, dude, it is, uh, the funniest page on the internet. I'm not bullshit- Kyle Dunnigan's Instagram page is the funniest page on the int- in the internet.

   18. TRTony Rock6:48

       Okay, that's saying a lot.

   19. JRJoe Rogan6:49

       Dude, I swear to God, I cry.

   20. TRTony Rock6:50

       'Cause I have, I have yet to see a really ... Well, I've seen a few, but then they, they kind of just fizzle out.

   21. JRJoe Rogan6:56

       I cry. I have not seen-

   22. TRTony Rock6:57

       So show the one with, uh, Kim Kardashian and the, the, the washing machine, the dishwasher. Or the, uh, the, the clothes-washing machine. The one where she's lost in the house.

   23. JRJoe Rogan7:07

       (laughs)

   24. TRTony Rock7:07

       Dude. (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan7:10

       Here it goes. The build-up.

   26. JVJamie Vernon7:15

       I have an emergency.

   27. TRTony Rock7:16

       Where is it at? Wh- who is this?

   28. JDJoey Diaz7:17

       What is it, Kim?

   29. JVJamie Vernon7:18

       I'm lost in my house.

   30. JDJoey Diaz7:19

       Oh, shit. Look at your surroundings. What do you see?
5. 10:52 – 15:00

   Tony’s comedy respect, Comedy Store history, and Joey Diaz stories

   1. JRJoe Rogan10:52

      ... I think you are one of the comics in this world that does not get the credit that you deserve. You are one of those guys.

   2. TRTony Rock10:59

      I, I, I thank you and I agree.

   3. JRJoe Rogan11:00

      I think you're one of the funniest guys alive. I really do.

   4. TRTony Rock11:02

      I thank you and I agree.

   5. JRJoe Rogan11:03

      I, uh, watched you do a set. (clears throat) I think, I guess it was last month. When ... How long ago was the last time-

   6. TRTony Rock11:08

      Oh, we did Tripley-, we did Tripley's, uh, show at the store, right?

   7. JRJoe Rogan11:11

      That's r- ... How long ago was that?

   8. TRTony Rock11:12

      About, um, two months maybe.

   9. JRJoe Rogan11:14

      Something like that.

   10. TRTony Rock11:14

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan11:15

       Dude, you're funny as fuck.

   12. TRTony Rock11:16

       Thank you, man. Thank you.

   13. JRJoe Rogan11:16

       You're funny as fuck. It's, it's fun to watch. You got a lot of energy too, man. You're powerful.

   14. TRTony Rock11:21

       Thank you, brother.

   15. JRJoe Rogan11:22

       That was, uh, that was a thing, like, couple of guys after your set were like, "Whoo."

   16. TRTony Rock11:26

       There were some heavy hitters on that one that night. It was, uh-

   17. JRJoe Rogan11:28

       That was a fun show.

   18. TRTony Rock11:30

       I've forgot who, uh ... Was Billy on that one? Was Bill Burr on that one?

   19. JRJoe Rogan11:33

       I don't remember. I mean, he's been on a bunch of them.

   20. TRTony Rock11:34

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan11:34

       Tripley throws some amazing shows at the store.

   22. TRTony Rock11:37

       Great shows. Tripley and I did, uh, we did Montreal New Faces together.

   23. JRJoe Rogan11:40

       Oh, really?

   24. TRTony Rock11:40

       And so every time I see Tripley, I'm like, "Hey, you know we're linked forever, man. We did New Faces together."

   25. JRJoe Rogan11:43

       Wow. New Faces. Dude, I remember those days.

   26. TRTony Rock11:47

       Yeah, me, Trip-

   27. JRJoe Rogan11:48

       The days of hope.

   28. TRTony Rock11:49

       Me, Trip, uh, Kory Holcomb.

   29. JRJoe Rogan11:51

       Oh, shit, Kory Holcomb.

   30. TRTony Rock11:52

       Uh, Mike Young.
6. 15:00 – 22:03

   Corporate influence, soda debates, and cravings vs self-discipline

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      W- Chris Ryan just posted some shit, uh, yesterday that I retweeted about how they were, doctors and scientists were encouraging women to breastfeed and they were gonna do it nationally, but it got sideswiped by the formula industry. It was a d- terribly disturbing shit.

   2. JDJoey Diaz15:19

      Tha- tha- that's just, that shit, that's, I- I believe that 100% because there's always-

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:22

      (sighs)

   4. JDJoey Diaz15:22

      ... the, the other side where, "We're gonna not make money if this thing gets through."

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:27

      But that one right there, that is terrible.

   6. JDJoey Diaz15:30

      It's, yeah, it i-

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:30

      That's a terrible one.

   8. JDJoey Diaz15:31

      ... it is.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:31

      That's, you're, you're, you're deciding to give babies less nutrition. You're making a decision for profit.

   10. JDJoey Diaz15:38

       Right.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:38

       Profit over baby's nutrition. You're lying to moms.

   12. JDJoey Diaz15:42

       R- it's like big tobacco, it was-

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:43

       (exhales)

   14. JDJoey Diaz15:43

       ... big tobacco's, you know-

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:45

       Yeah, but at least big tobacco-

   16. JDJoey Diaz15:45

       ... put you money in, in-

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:46

       ... isn't targeting babies. I know, and I know it's, there's no, like, there's no supporting big tobacco. These, you know, how many people have died from fucking cigarettes?

   18. JDJoey Diaz15:55

       Right.

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:56

       Imagine if that was, uh, from something else. Some any other product, like, Diet Coke. What if Diet Coke was just killing people-

   20. JDJoey Diaz16:02

       It is.

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:02

       ... left and right? Would it still be a r-

   22. JDJoey Diaz16:03

       It i- w-

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:03

       Wait, do you think it is?

   24. JDJoey Diaz16:04

       Of course.

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:05

       I'm not sure about that. I'm not sure.

   26. JDJoey Diaz16:07

       It's not killing people like cigarettes, but...

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:10

       I think it's not good for you. But as far as anybody ever get, like, cigaretted out from Diet Cokes?

   28. JDJoey Diaz16:14

       Yeah, nobody's doing commercials with the thing in their neck-

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:16

       Yeah.

   30. JDJoey Diaz16:16

       ... saying, "I drink too much Diet Coke." But-
7. 22:03 – 24:21

   Road eating, allergies, raw dairy, and Joe’s infamous kale ‘cleanse’ shake

   1. JRJoe Rogan22:03

      Yeah, dude. You might have to call for help. Do you eat healthy?

   2. TRTony Rock22:07

      I try, I try. You know, I have th- I have the vegan friends and I have the friends that, you know, like to cook and eat, and the foodies, so I'm trying to walk the, the fine line, you know.

   3. JRJoe Rogan22:15

      It's hard when you're on the road, right?

   4. TRTony Rock22:16

      It is very hard to eat healthy on the road. I try to do ... I go to Whole Foods, I'll try to get, like, some soup and, you know, some, some chips or whatever for the room. But I'd ... At 2:00, at 10:00 in the morn- 10:00 at night-

   5. JRJoe Rogan22:28

      Yeah.

   6. TRTony Rock22:28

      The show's over at midnight, you know. I was h- hang around and take pictures with people and now it's 1:00 and I'm starving and there's nothing open that I can get a healthy, you know, meal from.

   7. JRJoe Rogan22:37

      Yeah, I always bring protein bars everywhere I go.

   8. TRTony Rock22:39

      I should start doing that.

   9. JRJoe Rogan22:40

      I bring almonds and protein bars. Those are two good things to bring.

   10. TRTony Rock22:43

       I should start doing that.

   11. JRJoe Rogan22:44

       Yeah, it's like it's an easy thing. Like, if you're just using ... just trying to get some nutrition just, just to fill your stomach, you're hungry, just let me ... Just, just so I'm not hungry anymore, almonds are great because just a couple handfuls-

   12. TRTony Rock22:55

       But I'm allergic to almonds. I can't, I can't do almonds.

   13. JRJoe Rogan22:56

       Oh. Well, don't listen to me then.

   14. TRTony Rock22:57

       Yeah. I'm allergic to almonds.

   15. JRJoe Rogan22:58

       Damn.

   16. TRTony Rock22:58

       I'll be fucked.

   17. JRJoe Rogan22:59

       How'd you get allergic to almonds?

   18. TRTony Rock23:00

       I don't know. I'm, I'm allergic to, uh, almonds, pecans, I believe walnuts, but not peanuts, 'cause peanuts is not a nut.

   19. JRJoe Rogan23:06

       Really?

   20. TRTony Rock23:07

       Peanut grows on the ground.

   21. JRJoe Rogan23:09

       Oh.

   22. TRTony Rock23:09

       Almonds, pecans grow on trees, so something like, something weird there where-

   23. JRJoe Rogan23:12

       Whoa, peanuts grow on the ground. I did not know that.

   24. TRTony Rock23:14

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan23:14

       Did you know that?

   26. TRTony Rock23:16

       A peanut is not a nut.

   27. JRJoe Rogan23:17

       Nope, Jamie didn't know it either. (laughs)

   28. TRTony Rock23:19

       (laughs) I can eat peanuts all day.

   29. JRJoe Rogan23:20

       That's crazy. I ... All my life I've never thought about a peanut tree. Like, what the fuck does a peanut tree look like?

   30. TRTony Rock23:25

       (laughs)
8. 24:21 – 28:35

   Risk and nature: blowfish sushi, wingsuits, Fear Factor stunts

   1. JRJoe Rogan24:21

      Some food, some of these plants are incredibly nutritious to your body, and some of these plants will kill the fuck out of you instantly. And nature made people figure it out. You had to figure it out by trial and error.

   2. TRTony Rock24:34

      Trial and error, yes.

   3. JRJoe Rogan24:34

      Can you imagine what it was like?

   4. TRTony Rock24:35

      The blowfish, that guy.

   5. JRJoe Rogan24:36

      Woo!

   6. TRTony Rock24:36

      That, that first guy.

   7. JRJoe Rogan24:38

      Yeah.

   8. TRTony Rock24:38

      "Hey, it's a fish. We, uh, can we eat fish?" Bang, gone.

   9. JRJoe Rogan24:40

      Dead. Yeah, how about those assholes that still decided to-

   10. TRTony Rock24:43

       That's the-

   11. JRJoe Rogan24:43

       ... make sushi out of it?

   12. TRTony Rock24:45

       If you, if you cut it-

   13. JRJoe Rogan24:46

       Yeah.

   14. TRTony Rock24:46

       ... a inch to the left or inch to the right, you're dead.

   15. JRJoe Rogan24:48

       Mm-hmm. You're dead.

   16. TRTony Rock24:48

       Like, why, why not just not eat it?

   17. JRJoe Rogan24:50

       No, no, no, no, no.

   18. TRTony Rock24:51

       Like, why not just-

   19. JRJoe Rogan24:52

       Danger.

   20. TRTony Rock24:52

       ... skip that one?

   21. JRJoe Rogan24:53

       Danger.

   22. TRTony Rock24:54

       That, that probably doesn't make it taste better.

   23. JRJoe Rogan24:55

       You got those chopsticks and you're bringing it up to your lips and you're like, "Did this guy fuck up?"

   24. TRTony Rock24:59

       (laughs) Like, oh...

   25. JRJoe Rogan24:59

       Maybe this guy's getting old, maybe his vision's going bad, he doesn't wanna say anything 'cause he wants to keep his job, I don't know this fucking guy.

   26. TRTony Rock25:06

       (laughs) Oh... What kind of rush-

   27. JRJoe Rogan25:09

       Just take a bite and wait. Yeah, like blowfish sushi. That's like the, the wingsuit of sushi. You know? Those crazy people that jump, like my friend Andy Stumpf, they jump off cliffs and shit-

   28. TRTony Rock25:20

       With his, yeah, with his-

   29. JRJoe Rogan25:21

       ... with those wingsuits. That's what that is for sushi eaters.

   30. TRTony Rock25:23

       I saw a guy go through it-
9. 28:35 – 39:56

   Animal ethics: Rocky Mountain oysters, veal cruelty, and Joe’s chickens (that eat mice)

   1. TRTony Rock28:35

      ... under the helicopter before, but bull nuts and all that stuff, no.

   2. JRJoe Rogan28:38

      Really?

   3. TRTony Rock28:39

      Yes, man.

   4. JRJoe Rogan28:40

      Dude, bull nuts are just, just meat.

   5. TRTony Rock28:42

      (laughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan28:42

      You just eat it. That'd be, that's one of the easiest ones. Bull nuts would be super easy.

   7. TRTony Rock28:46

      Oh, man.

   8. JRJoe Rogan28:47

      People love those things.

   9. TRTony Rock28:49

      Um-

   10. JRJoe Rogan28:49

       They call them Rocky Mountain oysters.

   11. TRTony Rock28:50

       I've heard that.

   12. JRJoe Rogan28:51

       Yeah.

   13. TRTony Rock28:51

       I've, I've seen it, uh, one of those cooking shows and they fry them hard.

   14. JRJoe Rogan28:54

       Yeah.

   15. TRTony Rock28:54

       Like, they look like, uh-

   16. JRJoe Rogan28:56

       (laughs)

   17. TRTony Rock28:56

       ... they look like pork, fried pork rinds and people are just-

   18. JRJoe Rogan28:58

       Oh, they're just-

   19. TRTony Rock28:58

       ... going to town.

   20. JRJoe Rogan28:59

       Yeah. Oh, is that what they do with them?

   21. TRTony Rock29:00

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan29:00

       Like, it looks like pork rinds, really?

   23. TRTony Rock29:01

       They, they, yeah, they slice it and fry it up hard.

   24. JRJoe Rogan29:03

       Oh, wow. I hadn't seen that. I'd seen, uh, sauteed and I'd see that where they breaded them. They, like, uh-

   25. TRTony Rock29:10

       Breaded bull nuts.

   26. JRJoe Rogan29:11

       ... breaded them and fried them. Yeah, it's, apparently people love them.

   27. TRTony Rock29:15

       I'm, I'm not one of those people.

   28. JRJoe Rogan29:16

       There they are. They chopped those up. Rocky Mountain oysters.

   29. TRTony Rock29:19

       That looks like, that looks like fried cauliflower.

   30. JRJoe Rogan29:21

       Yeah. Man's dominion over animals.
10. 39:56 – 46:25

    Violence, perception, and hypocrisy: from ashrams and ants to grizzlies and poachers

    1. JRJoe Rogan39:56

       I went to an ashram once, um, and this lady who was there, she and I were having a conversation. And, uh, I noticed that she had ant spray. And I said, uh, "What do you do with the ant spray?" She goes, "Well, it's unfortunate, but we have to use it because the ants have been getting into the garbage." I go, "What?"

    2. TRTony Rock40:14

       Wow.

    3. JRJoe Rogan40:14

       I go, "You guys are murderers? You guys are killing ants?" And she started laughing. You know, she thought it was kind of funny. She's like, "Uh." But she, 'cause-

    4. TRTony Rock40:20

       We draw the line.

    5. JRJoe Rogan40:21

       That's one thing about Buddhists, like a lot of Buddhists, they don't take themselves too seriously to the point where they can't, like, crack out a little joke about that.

    6. TRTony Rock40:29

       That's good. That's good.

    7. JRJoe Rogan40:30

       About the hypocrisy of the fact they're using bug spray at an ashram.

    8. TRTony Rock40:33

       (laughs) That's, that's very good.

    9. JRJoe Rogan40:35

       You're just ... That's death spray. You're killing all these organisms. We just, but we decide that that's okay. Whereas, like, if she was inv- ... Or backyard was invaded by house cats and she just went out and shot gunned them.

    10. TRTony Rock40:44

        Right.

    11. JRJoe Rogan40:45

        You can't do that. (laughs) You can't do that, but you can spray the fuck out of these little bugs.

    12. TRTony Rock40:49

        Ants, we gotta kill them.

    13. JRJoe Rogan40:50

        It's like when things are little, we're like, "Can't be bothered worrying about you. You're too little."

    14. TRTony Rock40:54

        Yeah, yeah.

    15. JRJoe Rogan40:55

        It's weird, right?

    16. TRTony Rock40:55

        Buddhists, you would think, though, they would...

    17. JRJoe Rogan40:57

        Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you would think that they would, uh, figure out a better way to ke- keep those ants out.

    18. TRTony Rock41:05

        (laughs)

    19. JRJoe Rogan41:05

        They're lazy. They wanted to kill them.

    20. TRTony Rock41:07

        Buddhist, Buddhist, Buddhists are lazy.

    21. JRJoe Rogan41:10

        (laughs) Well, that one was.

    22. TRTony Rock41:11

        That's, that's ... We just, we just learned it today.

    23. JRJoe Rogan41:12

        Well, don't you think? Like, do you, do you ... Don't you think there could have been a way to clean them up with water and not kill them? Is that ... No, you'd still kill some. You'd still kill some.

    24. TRTony Rock41:21

        Why not just sweep them out?

    25. JRJoe Rogan41:21

        You're gonna kill some.

    26. TRTony Rock41:22

        Like, you're a Buddhist, why not just sweep them outside?

    27. JRJoe Rogan41:24

        But even then, you're, you're murdering dozens and dozens of ants. If you just had a broom and you started hitting those ants, you're gonna fuck up a few.

    28. TRTony Rock41:31

        Or how about you get, how about you get an, uh, ant eater if you're a Buddhist?

    29. JRJoe Rogan41:34

        Oh, shit.

    30. TRTony Rock41:34

        Because now it's circle of life type shit, you know what I mean?
11. 46:25 – 53:20

    Chicago shootings as a domestic war: segregation, PTSD, and what fixes look like

    1. TRTony Rock46:25

       That's life any... That's... Inner city life is just like, "Holy shit, is this, is this about to pop off in here?"

    2. JRJoe Rogan46:30

       Yeah. Right? Like, how many people died in Chicago last week? Some insane number. There was a... They're reporting on, uh, the lack of attention that the murders in Chicago are getting in, like, the national news and how crazy it is.

    3. TRTony Rock46:44

       It's fucking crazy.

    4. JRJoe Rogan46:45

       How-

    5. TRTony Rock46:45

       I've been to Chicago several times. The, the one thing that sticks out to me every time I go there is how segregated it is.

    6. JRJoe Rogan46:51

       Yeah, I've never gone to anywhere-

    7. TRTony Rock46:52

       For a major, for a major city, like New York, it's like we're all-

    8. JRJoe Rogan46:55

       Right.

    9. TRTony Rock46:55

       ... piled up together.

    10. JRJoe Rogan46:57

        Four killed, 24 wounded in weekend shootings. God. 28 people got shot, dude. That is crazy. 28 people in a weekend.

    11. TRTony Rock47:10

        12:15 in the afternoon, it said.

    12. JRJoe Rogan47:13

        Fuck.

    13. TRTony Rock47:15

        Standing on the sidewalk-

    14. JRJoe Rogan47:16

        Jesus Christ.

    15. TRTony Rock47:16

        ... someone opened fire.

    16. JRJoe Rogan47:19

        Jesus Christ. Like, there is a-

    17. TRTony Rock47:22

        19-year-old.

    18. JRJoe Rogan47:22

        ... there is a war going on in Chicago that's way more deadly than most of the wars we're engaging in overseas. You don't hear about that many soldiers dying every day.

    19. TRTony Rock47:32

        Exactly. Ex- now, that's another, that's another scenario, how we said, like, that's real.

    20. JRJoe Rogan47:36

        Yeah, that's real.

    21. TRTony Rock47:36

        That's real.

    22. JRJoe Rogan47:37

        Right.

    23. TRTony Rock47:37

        The fear is real.

    24. JRJoe Rogan47:37

        But unless you were there.

    25. TRTony Rock47:38

        You walk outside in Chicago, that is a real-

    26. JRJoe Rogan47:40

        Right.

    27. TRTony Rock47:40

        ... fear that you should have.

    28. JRJoe Rogan47:42

        And this is what's cra- number of people in Chicago this year passes (gasps) 1,400. 1,400 people shot.

    29. TRTony Rock47:49

        Now, how many people... Do we know how many people got, got shot, like, doing tours of Afghanistan?

    30. JRJoe Rogan47:55

        That's a good question. The, um-
12. 53:20 – 1:01:23

    Growing up in Bed-Stuy: family structure, crack era trauma, and “reading the room” for violence

    1. TRTony Rock53:20

       Like, I grew up in the hood. I grew up in Bed-Stuy, Brooklyn, the, one of the wildest neighborhoods when I was growing up there. But my vision was past it. My vision was, "Yeah, this is going on outside, but I'm gonna be there one day."

    2. JRJoe Rogan53:31

       What do you attribute the having the ability to do that to?

    3. TRTony Rock53:35

       Uh, having a mom and a dad. My pops, my father worked two full time jobs my whole childhood. My father literally worked 80 hours a week.

    4. JRJoe Rogan53:43

       Wow.

    5. TRTony Rock53:43

       80. So just to see him go every day, like, "Damn, this dude, this dude works hard, man."

    6. JRJoe Rogan53:48

       Wow.

    7. TRTony Rock53:49

       Didn't have a lot to show for it and made sure his kids had. Mom was a teacher. Education was... You know, empha- uh, she made an emphasis on it.

    8. JRJoe Rogan53:58

       Wow.

    9. TRTony Rock53:58

       Uh, you know. It was, it was... Like, my friends, my, my, one of my best friends down the block, no dad. My friend across the street, no dad. My friend two doors down, no dad. Then crack came, and that was... Everything fucked up. Everything started just... The neighborhood started just to dr- you know-

    10. JRJoe Rogan54:15

        Yeah, that was like-

    11. TRTony Rock54:16

        ... shrivel up and-

    12. JRJoe Rogan54:17

        ... a plague.

    13. TRTony Rock54:17

        Yeah-

    14. JRJoe Rogan54:18

        Crack was...

    15. TRTony Rock54:18

        Yeah.

    16. JRJoe Rogan54:18

        People that are alive today-

    17. TRTony Rock54:20

        Yeah.

    18. JRJoe Rogan54:20

        ... or young kids today, they don't remember the '80s.

    19. TRTony Rock54:23

        Yeah.

    20. JRJoe Rogan54:23

        There was a, like a plague.

    21. TRTony Rock54:25

        Yep.

    22. JRJoe Rogan54:26

        A plague hit.

    23. TRTony Rock54:27

        Yep.

    24. JRJoe Rogan54:27

        Everybody knew somebody that got hit. And you... So many people's lives were gone.

    25. TRTony Rock54:32

        Done.

    26. JRJoe Rogan54:33

        Done.

    27. TRTony Rock54:33

        Done.

    28. JRJoe Rogan54:34

        Over. People who were doing fine, and then all of a sudden... (snaps fingers)

    29. TRTony Rock54:38

        Yep.

    30. JRJoe Rogan54:38

        Whew.
13. 1:01:23 – 1:32:44

    Paranormal skepticism, ‘Ghostbusters laws,’ and true-crime real estate stigma

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:01:23

       Yeah, I don't know, man. Y- y- you should probably know. Do you believe in haunted houses?

    2. TRTony Rock1:01:29

       Eh, not really.

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:01:30

       No?

    4. TRTony Rock1:01:30

       Not really. I haven't experienced one-

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:01:32

       Right.

    6. TRTony Rock1:01:32

       ... so I don't ... I don't-

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:01:34

       I don't-

    8. TRTony Rock1:01:34

       I, I, I don't give it much thought and put it that way.

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:01:36

       I don't believe in ghosts, but I don't not believe in ghosts.

    10. TRTony Rock1:01:39

        Have you experienced-

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:01:40

        No.

    12. TRTony Rock1:01:40

        ... the paranormal?

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:01:41

        Nope. But imagine you're out in the desert and all of a sudden you see an apparition walk towards you in the desert. And then-

    14. TRTony Rock1:01:53

        This has, this has happened to you?

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:01:54

        Just imagine, just imagine.

    16. TRTony Rock1:01:55

        Okay. I'm in the desert-

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:01:56

        And, and it l-

    18. TRTony Rock1:01:57

        ... and it's nighttime, it's day, it's-

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:01:57

        ... and it looks right at you, and it looks like, like a, a teacher that you knew from, like, seventh grade or something.

    20. TRTony Rock1:02:01

        This is at night?

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:02:02

        At night. And then it vanishes.

    22. TRTony Rock1:02:04

        And my seventh grade teacher walks-

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:02:05

        And it vanishes right in front of you. Do you tell people?

    24. TRTony Rock1:02:08

        Uh, yeah.

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:02:09

        What do you tell them?

    26. TRTony Rock1:02:10

        "My fucking seventh grade teacher just popped up in the middle of the desert."

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:02:13

        People are like, "Oh, Tony, we gotta get you to a doctor. Tony Rock's gone crazy." No. You, you know what you would do? If you were-

    28. TRTony Rock1:02:18

        You tell the people you trust.

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:02:20

        Even if the people you trust, they'd be like, "Are you okay? Let me feel your head." (laughs)

    30. TRTony Rock1:02:25

        (laughs) I don't... No. I've never experienced it.

Episode duration: 2:08:15