Joe Rogan Experience #1150 - Felipe Esparza

1. 0:00 – 0:55

   “What’s up, fool?” — greeting slang and Boyle Heights roots

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (sniffs) Here we go. F- three, two, one. Fucking, yee-haw, Felipe. How are you, sir?

   2. FEFelipe Esparza0:09

      What's up, fool? Good, man.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:10

      (coughs) You ha-

   4. FEFelipe Esparza0:10

      Thanks for having me.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      ... do you have to say that?

   6. FEFelipe Esparza0:12

      I don't know.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      It seems like it ha- it, like-

   8. FEFelipe Esparza0:13

      Ah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      ... you said, "What's up, dude?" And then you said, (snaps fingers) "What's up, fool?" You corrected yourself.

   10. FEFelipe Esparza0:18

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:18

       Like I s- I'm slipping. Is that, like... When you have such a cool saying, like you do, you almost feel compelled to use it.

   12. FEFelipe Esparza0:25

       Yeah. It all started, like-

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       (coughs)

   14. FEFelipe Esparza0:27

       ... people in my neighborhood would answer the phone like that.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       Oh, really?

   16. FEFelipe Esparza0:30

       Like I wa- I was dating this girl, and I called her up, and her brother answered the phone, "What's up, fool?" Like-

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       Yeah. It's normal, right?

   18. FEFelipe Esparza0:35

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       That is a, uh, a cool Mexican thing to say.

   20. FEFelipe Esparza0:39

       No, probably more, more like the hood. Like it's a-

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       The hood?

   22. FEFelipe Esparza0:41

       More like the West Coast hoody. West Coast-

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       West Coast hood, like not necessarily Mexican?

   24. FEFelipe Esparza0:45

       South Central. Mexican and s- and Blacks. Like we took it from the Blacks.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       Oh, okay.

   26. FEFelipe Esparza0:50

       But, uh, mostly, like, uh, West Coast, South Central, East LA, Boyle Heights.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:54

       Boyle Heights in the house.

   28. FEFelipe Esparza0:55

       Yeah, man.

2. 0:55 – 6:10

   Seeing the border up close: wall prototypes, ocean barriers, and political framing

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:55

      For sure. Yeah. What... That's a, you know... This is a contentious time for fucking people when it comes to, like, um, Mexicans and Americans with this whole wall thing.

   2. FEFelipe Esparza1:08

      Yeah. And I, I, I went to-

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:10

      s-

   4. FEFelipe Esparza1:10

      I went to go, um, to look at the walls, 'cause I went to, uh, Mexico, Tijuana.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:15

      Yeah.

   6. FEFelipe Esparza1:15

      And I was, like, and, uh, right at the border of the gate, like, the gate-

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:20

      Right.

   8. FEFelipe Esparza1:20

      ... it's not a wall, it's just a gate. And across from the gate they have, like, eight wall prototypes. Like, the ones to... Like, eight wall prototypes. Like, there's one wall that's like a, it's a wall with cement and it has, um, concrete. Then there's another wall that's different, and then another wall. It's like they have... You know when you, when you go buy tile for your house?

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:41

      Yeah.

   10. FEFelipe Esparza1:42

       And they show you all the tiles?

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:44

       Oh, wow.

   12. FEFelipe Esparza1:45

       Those are the, what the walls are.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:46

       Like those little Home Depot-

   14. FEFelipe Esparza1:48

       Yes.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:48

       ... uh, like a sign, like a placard with different... Wow, look at that.

   16. FEFelipe Esparza1:52

       That, that's it. I was right, I was there. I was right in front of that.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:56

       (inhales deeply)

   18. FEFelipe Esparza1:56

       Each one of those, I think it cost 25 million, each wall, each, each one.

   19. JRJoe Rogan2:00

       Each little fake one?

   20. FEFelipe Esparza2:01

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan2:03

       What? Someone's getting robbed.

   22. FEFelipe Esparza2:04

       (laughs)

   23. NANarrator2:05

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan2:06

       There's some, there's some contractors right now in New Jersey going, "Wait, wait. Hey, hey. What the fuck?"

   25. FEFelipe Esparza2:11

       (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan2:11

       "I could do that for 30 grand." (laughs) The... Anytime you have a wall, historically, shit goes down, right? People want to get over that wall. It's natural. It's what peop-

   27. FEFelipe Esparza2:24

       People want to get out.

   28. JRJoe Rogan2:25

       People want to get out-

   29. FEFelipe Esparza2:26

       But-

   30. JRJoe Rogan2:26

       ... people want to get in. You got a wall.
3. 6:10 – 7:25

   Early childhood in Mexico: hardship, memories, and family dynamics

   1. FEFelipe Esparza6:10

      Like, when I wa- I was- when I was a little boy, I was living in Mexico, and, um, my mother, she used to tie me up to a stump so- so I wouldn't run away.

   2. JVJamie Vernon6:20

      Oh, Jesus. Holy shit, son.

   3. FEFelipe Esparza6:21

      'Cause I t- 'cause I used to follow my dad to work every day. My dad was like a... I think he was, like, a steel worker or something. He worked, um, on a lathe, so he worked with metal all the time.

   4. JVJamie Vernon6:32

      Yeah.

   5. FEFelipe Esparza6:32

      And I would follow him to, to work every day 'cause I was a bored little kid, I guess. And they couldn't... I would run away every day, and my mom would tie me up to a, a little street stump with a rope.

   6. JVJamie Vernon6:43

      Wow.

   7. FEFelipe Esparza6:43

      I was her pet, basically.

   8. JVJamie Vernon6:45

      Jesus Christ. Holy shit. That's a weird memory.

   9. FEFelipe Esparza6:53

      I know, right?

   10. JVJamie Vernon6:54

       Get tied up with a rope.

   11. FEFelipe Esparza6:55

       Be- 'cause I lived in- I lived in, um... I remember I lived in Mexico for a little while, till I was three or four, then my dad took off.

   12. JVJamie Vernon7:02

       Do you remember Mexico at all?

   13. FEFelipe Esparza7:03

       I remember a bathroom was outside, like a outhouse.

   14. JVJamie Vernon7:08

       Uh-huh.

   15. FEFelipe Esparza7:08

       And we had to use a flashlight to go outside and-

   16. JVJamie Vernon7:11

       Wow.

   17. FEFelipe Esparza7:11

       I remember mosquitoes everywhere, and my m- mom's family all living in, like, in one big ranch with different houses, and it was fucking dusty. I mean, it was dusty. I was living in, um, Sinaloa, Mexico.

   18. JVJamie Vernon7:25

       Right.

4. 7:25 – 11:24

   Crossing into the U.S.: coyotes, detentions, and the passport ‘little girl’ plan

   1. FEFelipe Esparza7:25

      And there used to be a truck that would water the, the, the ground every day because it was too dusty, and there was no cement. But then my dad took off to the United States, and we followed him. We came... We, we, we lived... We were living in, um, Tijuana, Mexico for about two years.

   2. JVJamie Vernon7:45

      Do you remember how you got through?

   3. FEFelipe Esparza7:46

      Yeah. We got... Well, my dad made it through first, started another family, then came and got us. No, but-

   4. JVJamie Vernon7:54

      (laughs)

   5. FEFelipe Esparza7:54

      ... (laughs) that's what I thought.

   6. JVJamie Vernon7:56

      (laughs)

   7. FEFelipe Esparza7:56

      (laughs) He was gone for a long time, man. And then w- we went... We were living with my aunt. Her name was Julia, and she lived in Tijuana, Mexico, right next to where the... where the... where the gate is, Colonia 13. What's up? And, um-

   8. JVJamie Vernon8:10

      Yes.

   9. FEFelipe Esparza8:10

      ... we, we went across with a, a... like, a coyote, you know, a smuggler. My mom paid him money and we got in his car.

   10. JVJamie Vernon8:18

       Wow.

   11. FEFelipe Esparza8:18

       We crossed. We made it through. I remember we made it through, but there was, like, a checkpoint back in the day in San Clemente, California. The California Sheriff Department or just the county sheriffs, they would randomly stop cars, you know, like too many people in one car, this car is too heavy.

   12. JVJamie Vernon8:34

       Right, right.

   13. FEFelipe Esparza8:35

       So they got us and they, they put us in a, like, in a holding cell. My mom went one way, we went the other way.

   14. JVJamie Vernon8:42

       Whoa.

   15. FEFelipe Esparza8:43

       And-

   16. JVJamie Vernon8:43

       How old were you?

   17. FEFelipe Esparza8:44

       I was probably four, maybe, or five. I don't remember. But it was three o- three little brothers I have. My little brother was, like, three, and the other one was one or two.

   18. JVJamie Vernon8:55

       Why? Why would they separate you from your mom?

   19. FEFelipe Esparza8:58

       Um, I don't know. That's... I guess that's how they process wetbacks or illegal people.

   20. JVJamie Vernon9:03

       That seems kinda crazy.

   21. FEFelipe Esparza9:04

       She went to one way and... I don't know what, um... I don't remember crying or being scared. I just know that we were watching cartoons, you know?

   22. JVJamie Vernon9:12

       Wow.

   23. FEFelipe Esparza9:13

       American cartoons.

   24. JVJamie Vernon9:14

       That's all you remember?

   25. FEFelipe Esparza9:16

       And then they caught us. We went... We went back again, and they caught us again-

   26. JVJamie Vernon9:22

       Jesus.

   27. FEFelipe Esparza9:22

       ... in another car, and we got separated again. But this time, we were held for a longer time. And I remember my aunt, when she saw us in Mexico, she said, "Ha ha, they caught you guys again." (laughs) Just jokingly.

   28. JVJamie Vernon9:35

       Wow.

   29. FEFelipe Esparza9:36

       But the third time was, like, my, my aunt and my mom came up with this crazy idea because we had brothers... No, we had cousins in San Ysidro, California. And my mom said, "You know, why don't we just borrow their passports, you know, to cross?" And I... And I... Well, I don't remember this, you know. I just found out recently that's what happened. My brother told me. My little young brother, um, we dressed him up like a little girl, like a full on little girl, um, because that... That... That... That w- We had, like, three passports and-

   30. JVJamie Vernon10:10

       Whoa.
5. 11:24 – 16:18

   Learning English from TV: school immersion and language obsession

   1. FEFelipe Esparza11:24

      Juan, you're going to go to St. Louis. This guy, you're gonna go to San Diego. This lady, her three kids are gonna go to Boyle Heights," because that's where their father is. So then we ended up going to Boyle Heights and, um, didn't speak no English at all, but, um, I picked up English right away, you know, 'cause you're little, like watching Bionic Woman and shit. (laughs)

   2. JVJamie Vernon11:47

      (laughs)

   3. FEFelipe Esparza11:47

      Six Million Dollar Man, Incredible Hulk, Dukes of Hazzard.

   4. JVJamie Vernon11:51

      So you basically picked it up from TV?

   5. FEFelipe Esparza11:52

      Yeah.

   6. JVJamie Vernon11:53

      Really?

   7. FEFelipe Esparza11:53

      Them dukes. (laughs)

   8. JVJamie Vernon11:56

      But, like, what kinda... What, what kinda, like, lessons did you take?

   9. FEFelipe Esparza12:01

      Lessons where?

   10. JVJamie Vernon12:02

       In English.

   11. FEFelipe Esparza12:02

       Oh, none.

   12. JVJamie Vernon12:03

       Zero?

   13. FEFelipe Esparza12:04

       When I was... When I was in, uh, elementary school, it was different from now. There was no, like...... separating these kids who don't speak Spanish and put them in a English as a second language class. I started, I started, um, kindergarten, so...

   14. JRJoe Rogan12:19

       So, you just picked it up?

   15. FEFelipe Esparza12:20

       I picked it up.

   16. JRJoe Rogan12:20

       That is crazy.

   17. FEFelipe Esparza12:21

       The teacher, the teacher never spoke Spanish to us. She never said, um, "Okay, Juan, you know what, you know what apple is?" Nah, it was nothing like that. It was like, it was like, "I don't got time for you. You're gonna pick it up or not."

   18. JRJoe Rogan12:32

       Do you think it was because you were, you were so young, your brain could pick up a, another language really quickly? Isn't that what they say? Like, young people, their brains pick up languages quicker?

   19. FEFelipe Esparza12:44

       I think I, I picked it up really fast, but just my pronunciation were not there.

   20. JRJoe Rogan12:47

       Right.

   21. FEFelipe Esparza12:48

       Like, I didn't know how to say bionic. I would say, "Blion."

   22. JRJoe Rogan12:51

       That kind of makes sense, right, that a part of-

   23. FEFelipe Esparza12:52

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan12:52

       ... your brain would really develop and make it real easy to learn a language when it's real young? You know, like, "Okay, how do I say this? What do I..." You, like, give more of a desperation for figuring it out. But I bet you a little kid that comes from another country, like you did, well, you're a perfect example. You learned from TV. That's crazy. So, you learned from just talking to people that were around you, and television?

   25. FEFelipe Esparza13:16

       Television.

   26. JRJoe Rogan13:17

       Nobody's saying, "This is how you say... This is a pronoun, this is a noun, this is a verb."

   27. FEFelipe Esparza13:22

       No.

   28. JRJoe Rogan13:22

       No one's telling you any of that.

   29. FEFelipe Esparza13:23

       Nobody told me that. But I, later I-

   30. JRJoe Rogan13:25

       Wow.
6. 16:18 – 20:35

   Communication, culture shocks, and ‘what if we all spoke one language?’

   1. JRJoe Rogan16:18

      I think if we lived on another planet and we were looking, we were observing a giant culture that had nuclear power, but they all hadn't even agreed on the same language yet, we'd be like, "What are these crazy assholes doing?"

   2. FEFelipe Esparza16:33

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan16:33

      "What are they doing? They're all speaking different... They can't understand each other." They, they all have nuclear power and they can't understand each other. So, you're relying on translators and people to speak for you and representatives and...

   4. FEFelipe Esparza16:45

      I know, man. I, I watched that movie, Close Encounters, for the first time on mushrooms.

   5. JRJoe Rogan16:51

      Whoa.

   6. FEFelipe Esparza16:51

      Man, man.

   7. JRJoe Rogan16:53

      Dude.

   8. FEFelipe Esparza16:54

      And, and then you're right about communication. When they're, they're communicating with those UFOs and the UFOs keep saying, "De, ne, ne, ne."

   9. JRJoe Rogan17:00

      Yeah.

   10. FEFelipe Esparza17:00

       "Do, do, do, dum, do."

   11. JRJoe Rogan17:03

       Didn't they have, like, a hand thing-

   12. FEFelipe Esparza17:04

       Uh, yes.

   13. JRJoe Rogan17:04

       ... that they would do with it? That was an amazing movie.

   14. FEFelipe Esparza17:08

       I always wonder, like, what if we're... 'Cause what... Like, humans always think that they know what the other person might be saying.

   15. JRJoe Rogan17:15

       Right.

   16. FEFelipe Esparza17:15

       But what if the whole time you're, like, detonating a bomb with each other? "De, de, de, ne."

   17. JRJoe Rogan17:21

       Well, the problem is, like, what they're saying means different things in different cultures, too. It's w- just on Earth, people just have different styles of living. You can't tell them they're wrong in Africa or they're right in Norwegia. Norwegia. (laughs)

   18. FEFelipe Esparza17:36

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan17:36

       Norwegian. What is Norwe- Norway.

   20. FEFelipe Esparza17:39

       Norway.

   21. JRJoe Rogan17:39

       How funny is that? Norwegia. I'm coming up... I'm trying to come up with a cold weather... I was in the middle of Iceland. I should've went with I- Iceland. But any place like that. These freezing climates. Who's right? Who's... You know? I don't know. Who's right?

   22. FEFelipe Esparza17:55

       Like, in Argentina, we had a guest on our podcast. He said that, he said that when they were performing, he said that, uh, they were spitting at them. And I go, "Why were they spitting at you?" "Because that's how they say 'we love you' in Argentina when you're performing." Like, they spit at you.

   23. JRJoe Rogan18:09

       They did.

   24. FEFelipe Esparza18:09

       I'm like, "Fuck that."

   25. JRJoe Rogan18:11

       People do weird shit-

   26. FEFelipe Esparza18:12

       (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan18:12

       ... and they get used to it, right?How about, uh, in, uh, Iceland, they eat this crazy shark. It's like a, uh, fermented shark and it's supposed to be disgusting for everybody else but them. Like, they love it. It's like a, a delicacy. It's this f- and, and Bourdain ate it and he said it was disgusting.

   28. FEFelipe Esparza18:35

       (laughs) There was-

   29. JRJoe Rogan18:35

       A bunch of people have eaten it on TV shows and shit, and been like, "What the fuck?"

   30. FEFelipe Esparza18:38

       What kind of shark is it?
7. 20:35 – 24:03

   Comedy backlash and context: ‘problematic’ labels and joke structure

   1. FEFelipe Esparza20:35

      Like, I was called problematic one time.

   2. JRJoe Rogan20:39

      For what would you do?

   3. FEFelipe Esparza20:40

      I was just, I did a show and, um, this, this, this lady went on and goes, "Oh, he's problematic. He's, um," what did he say? He's mas- maschoven? What that word?

   4. JRJoe Rogan20:49

      Male chauvinist?

   5. FEFelipe Esparza20:50

      Yes. Yeah. 'Cause I, I just did a, I just did one joke, but she heard like the, the trigger word I guess.

   6. JRJoe Rogan20:56

      Right. She didn't hear the whole-

   7. FEFelipe Esparza20:57

      And it set her off. So I guess she didn't hear the, she didn't wait for the punchline.

   8. JRJoe Rogan21:01

      I've had that happen.

   9. FEFelipe Esparza21:02

      But it's weird, like there aren't, lady, you should understand, you know, you went, you walked into my show, you know, with your friend. They should have just warned you that I, I say words, but you got to wait for the fucking punchline, bitch.

   10. JRJoe Rogan21:14

       (laughs) Yeah, there's a turn coming up here. Just hang in there.

   11. FEFelipe Esparza21:18

       Like I remember doing this show and I was just talking about my brother coming out of, in and out of prison a lot, and they booked me for the show. It wasn't that much, $200. And I told my friend, this comedian I, I had worked with named Steve Fly, he's fucking dirty. I told him, "Please, bro, just be clean for 10 minutes. Please."

   12. JRJoe Rogan21:37

       (laughs)

   13. FEFelipe Esparza21:37

       "No surprises, bro. Don't pull your pants down. Just a quick eight if you have it." So he did a quick 08:50, solid, killed it. I went up there, was doing okay. I started talking about, um, whatever, stretch marks, this and that. Then I said, "My brother been in and out of prison a lot. Every time he comes out worse. The first time he came out a better thief. The second time he came out racist, like total racist, a Mexican guy. And then the third time, he came out even worse, man. He came out a born again Christian."

   14. JRJoe Rogan22:10

       (laughs)

   15. FEFelipe Esparza22:11

       And they took my microphone away from me. (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan22:14

       (laughs)

   17. FEFelipe Esparza22:14

       She didn't wait for the punchline, like, he don't steal no more, he blesses himself, you know, and then-

   18. JRJoe Rogan22:19

       Yeah.

   19. FEFelipe Esparza22:19

       ... she just took the microphone away, this fat lady, and she said, "That's enough from Mr. Felipe Esparza."

   20. JRJoe Rogan22:24

       That's so crazy. They don't let you say that.

   21. FEFelipe Esparza22:28

       She said, uh-

   22. JRJoe Rogan22:28

       Just think of how, think of how foolish that is to stop you from saying that. Like, this is a problem. This is a problem that people have, they feel righteous. When you're do, when you're talking about stand-up comedy in particular, when you're setting up a joke like that, you're gonna, you're, you're taking them for a ride. They don't know what you're going to say next, you know? And it's funny. And to, to pretend that it's not funny because it's talking about a certain subject, it's just crazy, because it's not about not being able to talk about subjects. It should be... Like, if someone has a heinous perspective like, "Hey, I don't have a problem if kids get raped and killed," and they start trying to make a joke about that.

   23. FEFelipe Esparza23:06

       Fuck. (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan23:06

       Fuck, man. Good luck, you're on your own. You know, you have a, uh, obviously heinous perspective, but that's not a heinous perspective. What you're doing, talking about a guy going to jail and getting worse every time he comes out, that, that's also a reality.

   25. FEFelipe Esparza23:21

       It is.

   26. JRJoe Rogan23:21

       It is a reality. And to be, for people to, to, to deny that people become hardened criminals because they've been in the joint three, four times... The joint? What, am I living in the '50s? In the-

   27. FEFelipe Esparza23:31

       The slammer.

   28. JRJoe Rogan23:31

       ... 1950s, what are we doing?

   29. FEFelipe Esparza23:32

       He was in the slammer. (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan23:33

       I was in the slammer. (laughs) Come on, man, that's crazy to deny that you're in there with fucking criminals and, you know, you're stuck in a cage. Of course you're going to come out worse. That's where it's fucked up, right? It's like nobody's getting any better at doing that. No, no one ever re-engineers the whole prison system. No one ever re-engineers the whole people system and looks and he goes, "Why, why do we just continue to have crime emanate out of these unfortunate areas?" If you just fix those areas, fix it, you c- is it possible

8. 24:03 – 31:28

   Poverty, wealth concentration, and DIY economics (Bitcoin + ‘condina’ savings circles)

   1. JRJoe Rogan24:03

      that you could have no, like, extreme poverty on Earth? Is it possible? Do we have enough resources? Do, does anybody know? Like, oh, uh, do, do, do people think that in order to live the way we live now that somebody somewhere has to live in extreme poverty? Is that like what they think or is it just a, a spot we're stuck at?

   2. FEFelipe Esparza24:25

      Well, um, I think, um, the only thing that would happen if, um, nobody really r- it would just be middle class and poor, then everybody would have something.

   3. JRJoe Rogan24:34

      Yeah.

   4. FEFelipe Esparza24:35

      'Cause, uh, 'cause right now, it's just rich and middle class and poor. The rich would have to give half to the middle class and the middle class would give some of it to the poor.

   5. JRJoe Rogan24:43

      Jesus.

   6. FEFelipe Esparza24:43

      Not enough money to go around, sorry.

   7. JRJoe Rogan24:46

      Yeah, is that, is that real?

   8. FEFelipe Esparza24:48

      For-

   9. JRJoe Rogan24:48

      Like, if we had all the resources on Earth-

   10. FEFelipe Esparza24:50

       We don't really need resources.

   11. JRJoe Rogan24:51

       What do we need?

   12. FEFelipe Esparza24:51

       We just need people to volunteer, man.

   13. JRJoe Rogan24:53

       Volunteer for what?

   14. FEFelipe Esparza24:54

       To help people. Like, you, okay, you care about dogs so much, I don't see you working b- doing, putting in eight hours at no shelter. Walking these dog for free.

   15. JRJoe Rogan25:04

       What does it say? Billionaires make so much money last year, they could end extreme poverty seven times. Jesus Christ. (laughs)

   16. FEFelipe Esparza25:11

       Where's the profit in that?

   17. JRJoe Rogan25:12

       Oh my God. (laughs) That is crazy. Roughly six out of the seven, the top 500 richest people saw their net worth-

   18. FEFelipe Esparza25:20

       (coughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan25:20

       ... their net wealth created this year is a staggering 259.4 billion. Here are the top five richest people who saw massive gains this year. Oh, boy. Jeff Bezos, in the house, CEO of Amazon. A war- 35 billion to his net worth this year. Holy shit. I don't know how to say this gentleman's name.

   20. FEFelipe Esparza25:39

       Huy Yung.

   21. JRJoe Rogan25:41

       Uh, Evergrande's chairman, his bank account grew 25 billion. Yeah, these guys are, they're fucking making cash-

   22. FEFelipe Esparza25:47

       Bernard-

   23. JRJoe Rogan25:47

       ... baby. What's his name? Bernard what?

   24. FEFelipe Esparza25:49

       Bernard Arnault.

   25. JRJoe Rogan25:51

       Look at him. Cash, baby. 24 billion.

   26. FEFelipe Esparza25:54

       Mark Zuckerberg.

   27. JRJoe Rogan25:55

       Zuckerberg in the house. (inhales deeply)

   28. FEFelipe Esparza25:57

       24 billion.

   29. JRJoe Rogan25:58

       Jesus Christ, that's a lot of money. Woo. Yeah, there's some... But here's the thing, man. If you're gonna have a game, and I'm not, uh, I'm not advocating for capitalism or communism or socialism. I'm not advocating for anything. What I'm gonna say, if you ha- if you're gonna have a game, and you- you're trying to figure out what... how much of a certain thing, and if you own that thing, you could do way more stuff, right? You could buy a private jet. You could get a big house. So what is it... What are the, what are the steps you have to take in order to get that thing? And h- is there a too much? Could someone have all of it and everybody else have zero? Is that possible?

   30. JVJamie Vernon26:39

       I said that, what if there's like, there's no rule that says you have to do something with it either. Like you could just collect it all-
9. 31:28 – 41:01

   Brother’s border disguise to sexuality: nature vs nurture and social reactions

   1. JRJoe Rogan31:28

      How did the, the little boy do pretending to be the little girl? How did he do when he went through-

   2. FEFelipe Esparza31:32

      He's gay now, bro.

   3. JRJoe Rogan31:33

      Mm-hmm.

   4. FEFelipe Esparza31:35

      (laughs) He was sucked into it. (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan31:39

      (laughs) Do you think, do you think that he would have been gay either way?

   6. FEFelipe Esparza31:44

      You never know.

   7. JRJoe Rogan31:46

      Is it possible that you could turn-

   8. FEFelipe Esparza31:48

      He liked Daisy Dukes.

   9. JRJoe Rogan31:49

      Wow. Maybe he was just gay. Maybe that's why they chose him.

   10. FEFelipe Esparza31:52

       My brother for, like ... I had this joke, I wa- I had this story for many, many years, but I didn't know how to, how to put it out there. Then my brother, he told me, "Hey, um, you should do that joke about how we crossed the border and my mom made me dress up like a little girl." And said, "Are you sure, man, 'cause people are gonna call you that, they're gonna call you and, and ask you if that really happened." I said, "What?" He said, well ... Yeah. He ... So yeah, he's, I did it, he didn't care, and, um, his, his husband was surprised.

   11. JRJoe Rogan32:23

       (laughs)

   12. FEFelipe Esparza32:26

       My brother married to this city planner.

   13. JRJoe Rogan32:28

       Oh, really?

   14. FEFelipe Esparza32:29

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan32:32

       That's hilarious.

   16. FEFelipe Esparza32:34

       But it's crazy, you know, Joe, like, um, how naive, you know, parents can be because my brother came out being a homosexual and my mom still goes, "¿Porque?" Why? And my father too, "Why? Why?" That's-

   17. JRJoe Rogan32:50

       Right.

   18. FEFelipe Esparza32:50

       ... you can't figure it out, motherfucker?

   19. JRJoe Rogan32:52

       Right.

   20. FEFelipe Esparza32:52

       You dressed him up like a little girl when he was two, asshole.

   21. JRJoe Rogan32:54

       (laughs) Do you think that's possible?

   22. FEFelipe Esparza32:57

       Maybe.

   23. JRJoe Rogan32:58

       Do you think it's ... Uh, here's the thing.

   24. FEFelipe Esparza33:00

       He was destined maybe, I don't know.

   25. JRJoe Rogan33:01

       I don't know. It might, it might be, but p- there is a possibility that, uh, you know, people are malleable. You can kind of m- steer them in different ways. The question is are those ways good or bad? You know? It's ... If he's happy and he's gay, and he became gay because he dressed him up as a little girl, if you really, truly care about gay people, does that bother you? It's a weird question, right? It's like, wow, man, I don't know. Like, uh, do you firmly believe in equality of, of, of sexual orientation? If you firmly believe in total equality, you should have no issue with someone turning a little boy gay. I mean, really. You sh- but then there's the thing like, no, no, no, I want people to decide their own destiny, but no one decides their own destiny religiously, right? Little kids get introduced into religion, but sexually is where it gets super important for us.

   26. FEFelipe Esparza33:58

       Yes.

   27. JRJoe Rogan33:58

       We, we don't ... "Let the boy be a boy."

   28. FEFelipe Esparza34:00

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan34:01

       "Let him be a boy. No, no fuck boys, son."

   30. FEFelipe Esparza34:03

       Hey, hey-
10. 41:01 – 1:20:14

    Wild gigs and after-hours culture: 3 a.m. house show and ‘Dougie points’

    1. FEFelipe Esparza41:01

       The only thing I liked about it, you know, like being a comedian that when I was younger was like there was always something to do afterwards that was crazy, you know.

    2. JRJoe Rogan41:08

       Yeah.

    3. FEFelipe Esparza41:09

       Like, even when like... But sometimes, you know, you- you go to like dark areas, you know, if you want to party hard. Like, I had a gig one time, I was doing a show in Montebello, remember Willy Barzana?

    4. JRJoe Rogan41:22

       Yeah, dude.

    5. FEFelipe Esparza41:22

       Willy Barzana had that crazy ass fucking, Wild Coyotes-

    6. JRJoe Rogan41:26

       I love Willy.

    7. FEFelipe Esparza41:26

       ... for 11 years and somebody came in and said, um... I think this comedian of yours, he said, "Hey, man, so there's this guy that's looking for comedians to perform at 3:00 in the morning." (laughs) "100 bucks." And I said, "Fuck, yeah. I ain't doing shit, I ain't got a life."

    8. JRJoe Rogan41:41

       3:00 in the morning?

    9. FEFelipe Esparza41:42

       "I ain't doing shit, I ain't got a life." So he gave me the address and we get there, there's like a undercover police officer, security guard at this house in Burbank. And, um, we perform at 3:00 in the morning for them. But it was...

    10. JRJoe Rogan41:56

        Oh, shit. In their house?

    11. FEFelipe Esparza41:58

        Yeah, man.

    12. JRJoe Rogan41:58

        What?

    13. FEFelipe Esparza41:59

        Joe, the house was built for like partying, like '80s style where like we don't- you don't even know what time it is.

    14. JRJoe Rogan42:06

        (laughs)

    15. FEFelipe Esparza42:07

        Like- like the curtains were... They had curtains all over the house, you couldn't see the sun come in no more.

    16. JRJoe Rogan42:13

        Really?

    17. FEFelipe Esparza42:13

        So it lit perfectly, like the house looked like it's 5:00 PM all day.

    18. JRJoe Rogan42:17

        Wow.

    19. FEFelipe Esparza42:19

        And all over the house, there was drugs, but they were not openly out there for everybody to take, only like for, like, people who knew what was going on. He had liquid coke there. Like, you know the nasal sprays?

    20. JRJoe Rogan42:32

        Yeah.

    21. FEFelipe Esparza42:33

        He had like those filled with water and coke-... 'cause when you do- when you do coke, sometimes the coke gets stuck in your ni- in your nose, so you got to pour a little water to help it go down.

    22. JRJoe Rogan42:44

        Jesus Christ.

    23. FEFelipe Esparza42:44

        But this guy had little squeeze bottles-

    24. JRJoe Rogan42:47

        (laughs)

    25. FEFelipe Esparza42:47

        ... all over the house, like nasal sprays, you know what I mean?

    26. JRJoe Rogan42:51

        (laughs)

    27. FEFelipe Esparza42:51

        So, I would see people lean over in the crack of the house and then grab something and (nose blowing) so then I found out where it was and I just, instead of just putting it back, I just walked away, but I kept it.

    28. JRJoe Rogan43:01

        God damn.

    29. FEFelipe Esparza43:03

        It was... We... I stood at that house till 11:30 in the morning. And I got there at 2:00 in the morning. But this is funny, the- the guy who owned the house, he had nobody cleaning the house, so everybody like, like if you grab a little bit from his house, like, like if Joe Rogan picked up those beers and threw them in a tra- trash can, he'll give you points, like, like Dougie points. His name was Doug.

    30. JRJoe Rogan43:27

        (laughs) Sucks.

Episode duration: 3:27:15