Joe Rogan Experience #1150 - Felipe Esparza

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (sniffs) Here we go.…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (sniffs) Here we go. F- three, two, one. Fucking, yee-haw, Felipe. How are you, sir?

   2. FEFelipe Esparza0:09

      What's up, fool? Good, man.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:10

      (coughs) You ha-

   4. FEFelipe Esparza0:10

      Thanks for having me.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      ... do you have to say that?

   6. FEFelipe Esparza0:12

      I don't know.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      It seems like it ha- it, like-

   8. FEFelipe Esparza0:13

      Ah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      ... you said, "What's up, dude?" And then you said, (snaps fingers) "What's up, fool?" You corrected yourself.

   10. FEFelipe Esparza0:18

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:18

       Like I s- I'm slipping. Is that, like... When you have such a cool saying, like you do, you almost feel compelled to use it.

   12. FEFelipe Esparza0:25

       Yeah. It all started, like-

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       (coughs)

   14. FEFelipe Esparza0:27

       ... people in my neighborhood would answer the phone like that.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       Oh, really?

   16. FEFelipe Esparza0:30

       Like I wa- I was dating this girl, and I called her up, and her brother answered the phone, "What's up, fool?" Like-

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       Yeah. It's normal, right?

   18. FEFelipe Esparza0:35

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       That is a, uh, a cool Mexican thing to say.

   20. FEFelipe Esparza0:39

       No, probably more, more like the hood. Like it's a-

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       The hood?

   22. FEFelipe Esparza0:41

       More like the West Coast hoody. West Coast-

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       West Coast hood, like not necessarily Mexican?

   24. FEFelipe Esparza0:45

       South Central. Mexican and s- and Blacks. Like we took it from the Blacks.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       Oh, okay.

   26. FEFelipe Esparza0:50

       But, uh, mostly, like, uh, West Coast, South Central, East LA, Boyle Heights.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:54

       Boyle Heights in the house.

   28. FEFelipe Esparza0:55

       Yeah, man.

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       For sure. Yeah. What... That's a, you know... This is a contentious time for fucking people when it comes to, like, um, Mexicans and Americans with this whole wall thing.

   30. FEFelipe Esparza1:08

       Yeah. And I, I, I went to-
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Like braille. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:01

   2. FEFelipe Esparza15:01

      Like braille.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:02

      It's a crazy al- It's a crazy-looking language. Like, um, another one is Arabic. Arabic's a crazy-looking language.

   4. FEFelipe Esparza15:08

      Whoa.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:08

      Like, look at that. What the hell is that, man?

   6. FEFelipe Esparza15:12

      That's something-

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:12

      What is that?

   8. FEFelipe Esparza15:13

      ... that's something you'll see in the movie of Indiana Jones.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:16

      (laughs) What is that thing that looks like a, like a spade with a knife through its heart?

   10. FEFelipe Esparza15:21

       It looks like it says-

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:22

       Yeah, that thing right there. What is that?

   12. FEFelipe Esparza15:23

       ... it looks like it says, "Ta-Ta Hotel."

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:26

       Right. (laughs) Look at that. Like, what is that called? Krylic? They call it Krylic?

   14. JVJamie Vernon15:32

       I don't know.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:32

       Okay, look at the language. Like, look at it when you see it written down. Look at that weird double K thing. K left, K, K east, K... Look at that one.

   16. FEFelipe Esparza15:41

       That'd be funny.

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:41

       Looks like a crown.

   18. FEFelipe Esparza15:42

       That'd be funny to watch Russian Wheel of Fortune. Give me the, the B that looks like a six.

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:48

       But they have R letters, too, but they're backwards. Like, look at, look at that again. There's almost, like... L- Look how they have Rs, but they have a backwards capital R. What?

   20. FEFelipe Esparza15:59

       (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:00

       They have a backwards lowercase N, it looks like. That's insane. Like, look at that U, that U with a big dick.

   22. JVJamie Vernon16:07

       RSP.

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:07

       What is that? There's a U with a big dick and there's a U with two dicks.

   24. FEFelipe Esparza16:11

       Look at the D. It looks like a chair.

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:13

       Yeah, this is a con- a fascinating language.

   26. JVJamie Vernon16:16

       RSP, SSC.

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:18

       I think if we lived on another planet and we were looking, we were observing a giant culture that had nuclear power, but they all hadn't even agreed on the same language yet, we'd be like, "What are these crazy assholes doing?"

   28. FEFelipe Esparza16:33

       (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:33

       "What are they doing? They're all speaking different... They can't understand each other." They, they all have nuclear power and they can't understand each other. So, you're relying on translators and people to speak for you and representatives and...

   30. FEFelipe Esparza16:45

       I know, man. I, I watched that movie, Close Encounters, for the first time on mushrooms.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Is it? …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      That's a great idea. And just pass it around. Y- that's a fucking great idea, man. That's like-

   2. FEFelipe Esparza30:06

      Is it?

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:06

      ... something, that's a social security that you'd be happy to contribute to.

   4. FEFelipe Esparza30:10

      Yes.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:10

      Get a group of your friends and do that. That's super smart 'cause then you get these like little bursts of a big chunk of money.

   6. FEFelipe Esparza30:18

      Yes.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:19

      Yeah, man. I like it. That's a social thing too, right?

   8. FEFelipe Esparza30:22

      Yeah. I don't know who came up with it, but that thing we had-

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:25

      But it's cool, like a cool social thing.... you know, something that, that keeps people communicating with each other and talking about shit, and getting excited about it. That's badass, man.

   10. FEFelipe Esparza30:36

       My mom, my mom was a hustler, man. My mom sold ... We used to go through, um ... 'Cause I live in Boyle Heights and there's, we're, we're next to Downtown LA, and there's so many, like, so, so many fucking factories. And m- my mom knew, like, she was, she used to know, like, where, where everything was. We used to go to this one factory and this trash can would throw, they would, in the trash can, like, in a bin, there was nothing but, um, synthetic cotton, so it was like this fake cotton made out of plastic. We used to take it out of the trash and put it in Hefty bags. Then my mom would ... we'd go home and my mom would sew them into pillowcases and we'll sell pillows. (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan31:14

       Wow. That's hilarious. Dude, you had a crazy life. You know? B- t- ... I couldn't imagine. How did, how did the-

   12. FEFelipe Esparza31:27

       It's that hustle, man.

   13. JRJoe Rogan31:28

       How did the, the little boy do pretending to be the little girl? How did he do when he went through-

   14. FEFelipe Esparza31:32

       He's gay now, bro.

   15. JRJoe Rogan31:33

       Mm-hmm.

   16. FEFelipe Esparza31:35

       (laughs) He was sucked into it. (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan31:39

       (laughs) Do you think, do you think that he would have been gay either way?

   18. FEFelipe Esparza31:44

       You never know.

   19. JRJoe Rogan31:46

       Is it possible that you could turn-

   20. FEFelipe Esparza31:48

       He liked Daisy Dukes.

   21. JRJoe Rogan31:49

       Wow. Maybe he was just gay. Maybe that's why they chose him.

   22. FEFelipe Esparza31:52

       My brother for, like ... I had this joke, I wa- I had this story for many, many years, but I didn't know how to, how to put it out there. Then my brother, he told me, "Hey, um, you should do that joke about how we crossed the border and my mom made me dress up like a little girl." And said, "Are you sure, man, 'cause people are gonna call you that, they're gonna call you and, and ask you if that really happened." I said, "What?" He said, well ... Yeah. He ... So yeah, he's, I did it, he didn't care, and, um, his, his husband was surprised.

   23. JRJoe Rogan32:23

       (laughs)

   24. FEFelipe Esparza32:26

       My brother married to this city planner.

   25. JRJoe Rogan32:28

       Oh, really?

   26. FEFelipe Esparza32:29

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan32:32

       That's hilarious.

   28. FEFelipe Esparza32:34

       But it's crazy, you know, Joe, like, um, how naive, you know, parents can be because my brother came out being a homosexual and my mom still goes, "¿Porque?" Why? And my father too, "Why? Why?" That's-

   29. JRJoe Rogan32:50

       Right.

   30. FEFelipe Esparza32:50

       ... you can't figure it out, motherfucker?
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   (laughs) Yeah. Like, "Did…

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      really good to their kids, but they're racist. So their kids associate really good, like love, with family, also with like- like distrust of certain- certain groups and colors. And that's, uh, almost a thing that they're taught by the people that care about them. Like wild animals, man, they're taught wild animal behavior by their parents. And that's the- the same shit with people. It's a weird thing, man. It's a weird, uh, it's a weird thing that human beings are malleable, you know, that they... you can get them to behave a certain way in Iceland, but then a different way in Brazil, or a certain way in Japan and a different way in China. Like I was, uh, I was in China recently. One of the things that's crazy is when you're around large groups of people, they just walk in front of you, man. They just walk through you. They walk through little kids. They walk through everybody, and it's not rude, it's just they have a different way of moving around because there's so many people and so many spots in China. They're not being rude. They don't consider it rude. It's just different. They're just trying to get there and they don't mind if everybody bumps into each other a little bit. We're like, "Oh, you touched me. Oh, I can't believe this. That guy touched me with his hand as he walked by."

   2. JVJamie Vernon46:12

      (laughs) Yeah. Like, "Did you-"

   3. FEFelipe Esparza46:12

      You know, in China, they're fucking head-butting each other, just... But they're not doing it mean, they're just kind of going through each other, like they don't mind touching each other. So they're- they're just, you know, you see an opening, they're going in that opening. Oh, you don't... Look it, you don't own the space in front of you, bitch. There's a little spot, I'm gonna go in there. Boom. And they don't think it's a bad thing. They do it here, too.

   4. JRJoe Rogan46:31

      Chinese people do?

   5. FEFelipe Esparza46:31

      Oh yeah, Asian people, or, you know, Armenian people, older people. We're trying to catch the bus, we- we're all trying to catch the bus-

   6. JRJoe Rogan46:37

      Yeah.

   7. FEFelipe Esparza46:37

      ... and they run. They rush in front of me, they don't say excuse me. That's why I learned how to say excuse me in Armenian (Armenian)

   8. JRJoe Rogan46:45

      You know when people don't mind being jammed up like that? In the winter, in Boston, when they get on the T.

   9. JVJamie Vernon46:52

      (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan46:53

       You know those trains, like if you leave in Fenway Park and it's like fucking zero degrees outside in the winter and you get on the T together and especially if it's sunny out, so nobody feels creepy about it, and they shut those doors and everybody's just jammed in there, huddled together. Woo-hoo... That-

   11. FEFelipe Esparza47:09

       Like penguins.

   12. JRJoe Rogan47:09

       Yeah, you don't mind. You don't mind. You're fucking freezing. So everybody has more of a sense of... That's like a big problem with LA, it's too easy to just live here. It's too easy to like physically survive, just-

   13. FEFelipe Esparza47:22

       It's too hot.

   14. JRJoe Rogan47:23

       But yeah, the- the heat's one thing, but you can get by, you get used to that. You can't get used to the cold. Like you can't do it. You can't stay out there. You could stay... See, the- the heat's way easier, you could stay out there if you have a shade and you have some water, you can live.

   15. FEFelipe Esparza47:39

       A hat.

   16. JRJoe Rogan47:39

       You literally can't live in Boston outside.

   17. FEFelipe Esparza47:43

       No, you can't.

   18. JRJoe Rogan47:44

       You can't go to sleep there. If you go to sleep there, you'll die. You won't make it. It's zero degrees out. (laughs) You're not gonna make it. Oh, it's... You can't just sleep on the ground when it's 30 below zero, like in Alaska or some shit.

   19. FEFelipe Esparza47:58

       Can't even panhandle in that cold.

   20. JRJoe Rogan48:00

       No. And so you got to be a hardy motherfucker to survive those places. It's too easy to survive LA. We don't have enough, uh, interaction with nature. We got a distorted sense of where we sit in this whole thing.

   21. FEFelipe Esparza48:11

       You want nature? Go to Griffith Park.

   22. JRJoe Rogan48:13

       Yeah. We don't even have bugs, man.

   23. FEFelipe Esparza48:15

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan48:15

       When I was in Thailand, they got crazy bugs, dude. Bugs that bite the fuck out of you. (laughs) You got those little weird bites all over you and mosquitoes are ferocious. Those are real bugs, man.

   25. FEFelipe Esparza48:27

       What we got here, roaches?

   26. JRJoe Rogan48:28

       We got nothing. We got a few roaches. We barely have any flies. We ain't got shit. No bugs want a part of this crazy dry air. (laughs)

   27. FEFelipe Esparza48:37

       (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan48:37

       That's the... We're super lucky, man. Bugs don't like dry air.... bugs are like, "Ugh." The crawly ones don't seem to mind, but the fly-y ones, they fucking hate dry air.

   29. JVJamie Vernon48:47

       We got lots of hummingbirds eating them up too.

   30. JRJoe Rogan48:49

       Dude, we do.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:15:00

   A new frog. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      for a big thing to be alive today that people don't know about. Like, they'll find like a new deer. You know, they'll find a new deer sometimes. Like, "Oh, look at this, we got a new f-

   2. FEFelipe Esparza1:00:10

      A new frog.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:10

      Yeah, we found a new deer. This is incredible. It's in the jungles of Cambodia. It's a new ... it's a subspecies of this deer. Rare footage shows the last surviving member of an uncontanted, uncontacted Amazon tribe. Yeah, I saw this. This poor dude. He's the last of the Mohicans. That's ... meanwhile, that's a cameraman. That's a cameraman they fucking gave him 50 bucks. "Just go out there and beat some trees. I'm gonna get some footage."

   4. FEFelipe Esparza1:00:33

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:33

      "Looks like Blair Witch Project and have you just whacking against a tree. I'm gonna say you're the last surviving ... bro, we're gonna get paid for this."

   6. FEFelipe Esparza1:00:39

      It's okay.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:40

      "Come on, bro. You look like an old fucking guy that lives in the jungle. Just do it."... 50 bucks, dude. I'll give you 50 bucks. What else are you gonna do today?

   8. JVJamie Vernon1:00:48

      It says they've been tracking him since the '90s.

   9. FEFelipe Esparza1:00:50

      Yeah, it's crazy.

   10. JVJamie Vernon1:00:51

       That's crazy. Naked and Afraid.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:52

       Homeboy's been living by himself since the '90s. We got a weird problem with that, right? Like, (sighs) poor guy. What if he dies out there like that? Well, he's gonna die here in a different way. What are you talking about?

   12. FEFelipe Esparza1:01:04

       Gonna be sad living alone.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:01:06

       Psh, if he's sad, he's sad. If he, you know, he saw those people with the cameras, he'd probably chase after them with a blowtorch.

   14. FEFelipe Esparza1:01:12

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:01:12

       You know? If, if he embraced it-

   16. FEFelipe Esparza1:01:15

       Poison dart bar, what a way to go.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:01:16

       ... just down there. Got himself a nice pair of Nikes, you know, little Gucci fanny pack.

   18. FEFelipe Esparza1:01:20

       Some Huaraches. (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:01:24

       (laughs) Come out of the woods, bro.

   20. FEFelipe Esparza1:01:25

       (laughs)

   21. JVJamie Vernon1:01:27

       He shot at someone in 2005, where he wounded someone with an arrow.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:01:31

       Deloro. Oh, Jesus.

   23. FEFelipe Esparza1:01:31

       They tried to take him down.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:33

       Oh, fuck. Yeah, you don't want that, man. That guy's gonna shoot arrows at you. Imagine that, he's a criminal. They haven't even gone and gotten him.

   25. FEFelipe Esparza1:01:40

       (sniffs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:40

       Shooting arrows at people, the son of a bitch. Yeah, that dude didn't want to... He ain't wanting to get saved.

   27. FEFelipe Esparza1:01:45

       (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:47

       (laughs) But it's funny, man. We look at people that live in a way that's different than the way we live, like, "Oh, we gotta save him. We gotta save him. We gotta bring him over to the good side."

   29. FEFelipe Esparza1:01:55

       I know. We gotta save him, but someone living under a car, he's fine.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:59

       Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, man. Someone living under their car's fine. Tell the guy, that guy that's camping under the freeway, normal, normal. Super normal. (laughs)
6. 1:15:00 – 1:15:30

   It's like a zero…

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:15:00

      fucking guy! It's not our dance!" He had this crazy dangerous bit about it, and like way back then, like, whoa.

   2. JVJamie Vernon1:15:11

      It's like a zero in around like 1980. I don't know if that's accurate, but...

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:15:14

      So 1980 was the highest peak?

   4. JVJamie Vernon1:15:16

      Maybe it's in thousands though.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:15:18

      Yeah, it seems like-

   6. JVJamie Vernon1:15:19

      Or 1980's low. So the highest was around '91, '92.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:15:20

      It seems like, it seems like late '70s, right? Is this somewhere around 1980?

   8. JVJamie Vernon1:15:24

      Mm-hmm. The one thing too, I read that there was around 300,000 total deaths and a third of them were in New York.

Episode duration: 3:27:15