EVERY SPOKEN WORD
150 min read · 30,075 words- 0:00 – 1:47
Tom Segura’s fan-made animation and the “Your Mom’s House” fandom
- JRJoe Rogan
(imitates guitar)
- BKBert Kreischer
Fuck, yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, I love the video that, uh, Tommy made.
- BKBert Kreischer
Oh, Tommy's-
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, the fucking animation. (laughs) How good is that?
- BKBert Kreischer
You gotta go check out Tommy's animation. That motherfucker-
- JRJoe Rogan
Did... Where is it at now? Live. Where can you get it?
- BKBert Kreischer
Oh, we're live?
- JRJoe Rogan
We're live. Oh, we're live. We're live. I just realized. Love you guys. Wh- where can you get that animation?
- BKBert Kreischer
Oh, to- I guarantee on Tom's Instagram.
- JRJoe Rogan
Is it available on Tom Pansu-
- BKBert Kreischer
Dude, he paid for that.
- JRJoe Rogan
I know he did.
- BKBert Kreischer
He paid for that.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's amazing. It's amazing. He showed it to me last night at the Icehouse. It's fucking amazing. So whoever did that is really talented. It's very funny stuff.
- BKBert Kreischer
His fans are the most creative fans ever. Dude, he's got fans in Indonesia who teach English to children, and all they do is teach them how to say, "Bert is fat."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) And "genes."
- BKBert Kreischer
And "genes."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Say "jeans."
- BKBert Kreischer
Genes.
- JRJoe Rogan
High and tight. Oh, so strange. He's got a real- weird niche. Like, him and his wife together on that podcast, they're- it's a weird, like, silly show.
- BKBert Kreischer
We should, the fo- the six of us should go out to eat one night, because watching the two of them interact is... They're... It's just inside jokes between the two of them.
- JRJoe Rogan
Always, right?
- BKBert Kreischer
And it's so much fun to be... They really are one of the funnest couples that I've ever befriended in my life.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's weird that it works so good. It's like, every comedian couple, when there are two comedians, they're like, "How long..." It's like a bomb. Like, you're just standing next to it, like, "I gotta get outta here before this thing blows."
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But with them, it's like it just works.
- BKBert Kreischer
He's, uh, it's so funny, too, because he's known me a- a- probably 15 years, and, uh, the other day we're hanging out. This is just p- me and him bullshitting. He goes... He's got two kids. He's... You... Their house, you can tell they have two brand new kids. Ellis is running around like a lunatic with a balloon running into walls. That kid's a wrecking ball. The other one's an infant. And he looks at me and he goes, "I can't believe you did this with no money." (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BKBert Kreischer
I just had kids. I'm like, "Fuck it, it'll work out." (laughs)
- 1:47 – 2:40
Having kids while building a comedy career (and touring broke)
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow. Yeah, that's true, right? How old were you when you first started having kids?
- BKBert Kreischer
32, I think? My daughter's 14. I'm-
- JRJoe Rogan
And how long into comedy were you then?
- BKBert Kreischer
Oh, like, I started at 26, so eight years.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- BKBert Kreischer
Maybe. Yeah, eight years probably. Six years. Someone can do the math-
- JRJoe Rogan
Six years?
- BKBert Kreischer
... better than me.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, so six years, and, like, that is not a good time as a comedian. Six years in is rough.
- BKBert Kreischer
I was featuring... Georgia was born on like a, on like a Tuesday. And I had... And we induced labor so that I could go feature for Dave Attell on Thursday.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, my god.
- BKBert Kreischer
And I was so excited to work with Dave Attell. I was almost as excited (laughs) to work with Dave Attell as to have a kid.
- JRJoe Rogan
(exhales)
- BKBert Kreischer
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Where were you working?
- BKBert Kreischer
Uh, Miami. I worked that, that stretch.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, that's still a terrible place to work. (laughs)
- BKBert Kreischer
Not with... Yeah, no shit. (laughs)
- 2:40 – 3:40
Miami comedy crowds: phone bags, chaos, and no attention span
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Dude, I was just in Miami. I was in Miami a few months ago, and I did that cellphone bag thing, 'cause I did it before. I filmed my Netflix special.
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Um, I did it for a while where they would have to put their phones in the bag, then I stopped doing it. It's just, it's complicated. It's annoying. It takes... Especially when you're doing two shows, it's a giant space in between shows. But never have I seen a crowd... Like, 'cause y- to use your phone, you gotta get out of the arena-
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and then come back. Everybody was just constantly going out. They were constantly getting up. I mean, it was just a... It was like I was doing standup not in front of people sitting down, but in front of people in a constant state of moving, sitting down, and getting up.
- BKBert Kreischer
That's fucking insane.
- JRJoe Rogan
They were just constantly moving. Like, no place I've ever been. They have zero attention span. I've always said if you want to starve to death, open up a bookstore in Miami.
- BKBert Kreischer
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Th- th- these motherfuckers, they just do coke, and fuck each other, and party.
- BKBert Kreischer
Bro.
- JRJoe Rogan
Not everybody. I know. I'm generalizing. If you're like, "Bro, I read," Billy Corben loves fucking Miami, so...
- 3:40 – 6:57
Bert’s wildest Miami club story: gangbangers, stage invasions, and shock escalation
- BKBert Kreischer
Bro, I, so I started headlining. Miami's one of the first clubs to let me headline 'cause I had handled the room.
- JRJoe Rogan
Of course. They're just like, "Take a white guy. Any g- anyone." (laughs)
- BKBert Kreischer
Dude, I had, I, I had the most crazy experiences I've ever had there. One night it's me, uh, and two other comics. I'm headlining, right? It's Sunday night. And I say to the manager, I said, "It seems pretty rowdy. Are they heckling her?" And then he's like, "Yeah, it's pretty bad. There's gangbangers in the front row." I was like, "C- who... Can we escort them out maybe?" And he goes, "I think they have weapons. I'm not comfortable with that." I was like, "So what are we gonna do?" And he's like, "I don't know. Tread lightly, I guess?" Feature act goes up. This is 100%, swear on my children, true story. Feature act goes up. They destroy him. He comes back-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, my god.
- BKBert Kreischer
... thinning hair matted sweaty to his head.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BKBert Kreischer
And he's like, "It's not good."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BKBert Kreischer
So I go out and I do an old Dave Attell trick. Uh, it's, it's... I mean, it's a comedy trick, but I watched Dave do it, where he would ask the audience a question that he had the joke for. So he'd ask them the setup. "Hey, what's the best way to please your wife?" You know? And then he had the joke, "Oh, what's the best way to give oral sex to your chick?" And the guy's like... And then the guy would tell his joke, and then obviously you have the better joke 'cause you wrote it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- BKBert Kreischer
You're like, "Oh, well, no, what you do is you put your lips around her entirely and go, 'Ho.'"
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay.
- BKBert Kreischer
And so I do that for- uh, with these gangbangers for like 40, 35 minutes. And it- and it's killing. The whole crowd's like, "Finally, we're all having fun." I look off to the left, and all of a sudden, one of them, a darker guy, name's Ray, gets up on stage. And he's like, "Yeah."
- JRJoe Rogan
On stage?
- BKBert Kreischer
On stage. There's no stopping this.
- JRJoe Rogan
With you?
- BKBert Kreischer
With me. He's like, "This is a real motherfucker right here. This is a real motherfucker." (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, no.
- BKBert Kreischer
"You know what real motherfuckers get in the 305?" Pulls his pants down and shows his dick, (laughs) and it is massive. Massive and dark. Like... And everyone's silent. I'm like, "Okay, Ray, th- thank you very much." He's like, "Show yo shit, son." I'm like, "Not now."
- JRJoe Rogan
"Show yo shit, son."
- BKBert Kreischer
"Show yo shit, son." I was like, "N- not gonna happen now. Not gonna happen now." I go, "You know, you might wanna leave. I'm sure they're calling the cops." And he's like, "Good looking out," and he leaves, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BKBert Kreischer
So, so I'm like-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BKBert Kreischer
... "I have nothing to say. I have nothing to say." I'm like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- BKBert Kreischer
I'm like, "How do I follow that?" All of a sudden, lighter-skinned dude, face tattoo, dreadlocks, stands up real slow. And I'm like, "Oh, my god, please say it with another dick."... gets on stage and just goes, "Who's a real motherfucker? You know what real motherfuckers get in the 405- uh, 305?" Pulls his pants down and he has an equally almost, like, lighter two-toned dick, like a purple ring around the ... like, and the place is going bananas. They're like, "Oh my God. Oh my God." I go, "Listen, brother." I go, "They're- they definitely called the cops now. You definitely wanna go catch up with Ray and get a ride home. Thank you so much for the..." You know.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BKBert Kreischer
And he's like, "Good looking out. Good looking out."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- 6:57 – 9:00
How comedy clubs go off the rails (free tickets, language barriers, and surviving chaos)
- JRJoe Rogan
Insane. Insane. You know what happened? They started giving out free tickets.
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And it just went off the charts. Like, no one was paying, and it was all just, like, young kids and... I remember I had a joke once where s-... I said something about, I think, uh, Oscar De La Hoya. It was like a joke about boxing.
- BKBert Kreischer
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
About like, you know, taking a left hook from Oscar De La Hoya, and someone yells out, "Fuck him. Fucking Fernando Vargas." And then someone goes, "Fuck him. Sulio- Julio Cesar Chavez." And they just start fucking debating about what...
- BKBert Kreischer
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm like, "Guys, this is a joke. It has nothing to do with boxing even. What the fuck?" But it turned into this, like, gigantic argument over, like, which Latino boxer is- is better.
- BKBert Kreischer
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Craziness. I've never been to a club that was more out of control. And I saw it get out of control. 'Cause when I first started working there, it was fine.
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It was fine. And then somewhere along the line, it just went to chaos. They started doing, um, just rowdier and rowdier acts. They're getting more and more young kids. And then sometimes you'd go there and the whole audience would be like 18.
- BKBert Kreischer
Oh, yeah. A- a- and- and not everyone spoke English. That was another real problem in that club.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, you never saw anybody kill. Like, you see Diaz do Spanglish in front of those fucking people.
- BKBert Kreischer
Oh my... Y-... 'Cause he came up in that club.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, he was always there. Yeah.
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah. I think him and Ricky- uh, Ricky Cruz.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
- BKBert Kreischer
All those guys had all worked that club and just were m-... Jo-... I bet Joey.
- JRJoe Rogan
Murder. I- I worked with Joey there a ton of times, but, you know, Joey and I, we knew how to work together. Like, it worked. And I'm t-... You know, from doing The Comedy Store so much, y-... I'm just used to chaos.
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know, you get used to chaos. But-
- BKBert Kreischer
I like chaos.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, it's fun. It's fun sometimes. You know? As long as you're not filming a special. (laughs)
- BKBert Kreischer
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
But if it's just a show, it's just a- a show and it's chaos, it's fun, but-
- BKBert Kreischer
That was my first taping in Philly. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh my God. Philly's a wild ass place too.
- BKBert Kreischer
I think-
- JRJoe Rogan
In a different way.
- BKBert Kreischer
... I- I call- called Tommy and he goes, "That's why we tape two, brother. Have good- good luck on the next one." (laughs)
- 9:00 – 13:54
Filming specials: how many shows, pressure vs looseness, and learning from bombing
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Yeah. I tape four now. I do ev-... I do four now.
- BKBert Kreischer
Dude, that is genius.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's the way to do it. I really should do six.
- BKBert Kreischer
Uh, Chappelle did nine.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's the way to go. It seems like it's not, but the- the thing is, like, you wanna make it the most like a regular show. But the ironic thing is most of what I use, I use from the first show because I'm so loose because I know I have four shows. It's like, it's different. It's- it's- it's... When you're- when you're filming one show, like, I always remember seeing, um, uh, Bill Hicks Relentless, which is the one he did in y-... In the UK.
- BKBert Kreischer
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a big theater in the UK and it's like a giant-
- BKBert Kreischer
With a duster and a cowboy hat?
- JRJoe Rogan
... duck... Yeah. Giant production. He comes out to, like, a Jimi Hendrix song and there's fire behind him and all this shit, and you could feel the tension. Like, he's got tension because he's got one shot at this. And he did a great job, but it was stiff. It's just stiff.
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And like, I was dating this girl at the time. She's very smart. And I watched it with her and she's like, "He's interesting, but this is not funny." And the way she said that, I was like, "Wow." Like, I was... To me, I was... A giant Bill Hicks fan. I was, like, hurt. I was like... I wanted to argue with her, but I was like, "I can't argue with her."
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause she's kind of right. It wasn't... I didn't laugh when I... Like, I was such a fan that, like, watching him was, like, important to me. Like, I wanted to watch it, like, 'cause I felt like he was a very important figure in comedy, even though Ari Shaffir shits on him relentlessly.
- BKBert Kreischer
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
But I was... When I was watching him (laughs) when I was-
- BKBert Kreischer
Fucking Ari?
- JRJoe Rogan
... oh, he's an animal, but when I was watching him, I was thinking-
- BKBert Kreischer
(laughs) He's a fucking...
- JRJoe Rogan
... "She's right." Like, "It's not really making me laugh at all."
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But I know the material's well thought out and it's very good, but, um, it's just that I-... And I recognized it. It's like that one show thing. You're filming one show. You got one shot at it.
- BKBert Kreischer
See, I, um, I think, uh, because I come from a, like a baseball, sports background, I like having pressure on me.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- BKBert Kreischer
I love that feeling of, "You got one shot."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BKBert Kreischer
So in Philly we did two and the first one, it rained, the generator went out, and we had to hold the audience in the rain for an hour and a half.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh Jesus.
- BKBert Kreischer
They lost their buzz, right? They're soaking wet. They finally come into the show.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ugh.
- BKBert Kreischer
They're in the show, they're- they're trying to catch a buzz again, and it ju-... It was a bad show. Like, legit, like, legit I didn't even do well. Like, I remember telling my buddy Tony, who produced it, I- I go, "Oh, I've had bad shows where, like, when you're moving, you accidentally stand on the mic and you go to move and then the mic moves away from your mouth." (laughs)
- 13:54 – 16:03
Building material with strangers vs fans (internet comics and Montreal bombing)
- BKBert Kreischer
That's why, that's why I'm grateful I work at The Store.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
- BKBert Kreischer
Right before I did my special, my closing bit I do on the sh- on the special, the closing bit, I, uh, I, I w- sat with you for a fucking hour in the back room 'cause I took it up in the main room, following, like, D'Elia, and I just said, w- "Here we go." And I... Man, that club can really let you know where the silence is. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BKBert Kreischer
And you go, "All right." And then you're like, "Oh, I've been lazy. I've been performing to fans who will give you the benefit of the doubt."
- JRJoe Rogan
Who love you.
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BKBert Kreischer
And they want you to succeed. But when you do a Netflix special, you need it to be to p- strangers need to like it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- BKBert Kreischer
That's the, the old Louis quote that I used to hang my hat on. They were like, "Why don't you work at UCB?" And he goes, "Anyone can make them laugh." He was like, "I'm famous." Like, get, "If I go in..." Like, that's like making your friends laugh. That's why, this is why I do the road is you, the art form is to make strangers laugh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BKBert Kreischer
And I was like, "Yeah, it is to make strangers laugh."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Well, it's, it's also, you don't want a delusional perspective. And one thing that does happen to some com-... Like, Stanhope lives by it. Like, he's like, "Why would I go and do someone else's audience?" He goes, "It took me 25 years to make my own audience."
- BKBert Kreischer
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm like, "Okay, I get it."
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But I really feel like to develop material, to really do it right, you gotta do it in front of just regular people, people that aren't necessarily there to see you. And the beautiful thing about The Store is if there's 15 people in the lineup or 20 people in the lineup, whatever it is, all the, the, uh, how many are there to see you? T- 10%, 30%, 20%?
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, uh, you know, maybe they're there to see you and D'Elia and also, you know, Tom and also Christina. Like, it's, they're just comedy fans.
- BKBert Kreischer
They are.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're not Bert Kreischer fans.
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. And that, that's giant. That's giant. Because those guys that, like, develop, like, that au-... I've, I've seen a few people that develop an audience and that's, uh, all their audience. And there's, they just get real complacent, real lazy. You know?
- BKBert Kreischer
That's the, um, those in-... I mean, I, I, I'm, I'm... I say it lightly 'cause there's some internet comics, meaning, like, YouTube comic people that do comedy now.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- BKBert Kreischer
And some are good, some are good, and some are developing.
- JRJoe Rogan
I agree with you.
- BKBert Kreischer
I don't know. I wasn't saying that to be polite. But like-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- 16:03 – 20:58
Comedy ‘shouldn’t preach’? Hannah Gadsby, Nanette, and genre confusion
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, well, here's the other thing about that guy. That guy goes up on a show where there's all these other comedians on, and then at the end of his set says that comedy shouldn't be about, about preaching, it should be about making people laugh, right? It shouldn't be about ethics or morals or values.
- BKBert Kreischer
Sexuality or race.
- JRJoe Rogan
Or s- sexuality or race. It should be about making people laugh.
- BKBert Kreischer
People pay to forget about that stuff.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Bitch, you are on stage not making people laugh.
- BKBert Kreischer
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
That is what you're doing.
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You silly fuck.
- BKBert Kreischer
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
It is one of the silliest things I've ever seen in my life. It's like, this is... And he's essentially a beginning comic.
- BKBert Kreischer
Open, open mic. He's maybe been doing standup three years tops.
- JRJoe Rogan
So he does, like, videos and the videos are very popular, right?
- BKBert Kreischer
And they're funny.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BKBert Kreischer
If you're from the South, they're really funny.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just g- g-... Unless someone's doing your shit-
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... unless they're stealing or stealing from somebody else, just do your fucking act. Unless something happened before you that's so egregious and ridiculous that you feel like you have to address it when you go on stage 'cause it's just sitting in the room-
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and to just try to do... Ever notice, you know, when you pick up your phone, if you just try to do that-
- BKBert Kreischer
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... and everybody's like, "What the fuck? You're not gonna address what just happened?" Sometimes you have to address what just happened.
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, sometimes someone will go on before you and just eat so much shit that you have to say something. You have to say something.
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You have to.
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But what that guy did was ridiculous.
- BKBert Kreischer
It's, uh, to tell someone what comedy is and what isn't, I'd said... I had read an article about that this, uh, I'm assuming she's a gay woman wrote about, like, trashing Hannah Gadsby and going, "Hey, we're gay and we're doing standup comedy. We're not, we're not just preaching. We're doing standup comedy talking about our trauma and it's working. You just don't see us. So don't write us off and say comedy's dead because you don't see us."
- 20:58 – 24:57
Gender, bathrooms, and the awkwardness of shared private spaces
- JRJoe Rogan
Can you imagine that? Remember when you were a kid? If somebody came up to you, go, "One day, uh, you're gonna have to ask someone whether they're a, they're a boy or a girl, and it's gonna be very delicate, and you're gonna have to ask them what their preferred pronouns are." You'd be like, "What?"
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You'd be like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's coming. It's real soon."
- BKBert Kreischer
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, "In 10, 15 years." And then everyone's gonna be, uh ... There's, there's gonna be a lot of ambiguity, an- ... ambiguity. That's a weird word. Ambiguity. How often do you say that word? I'll say ambiguous, but h- how often do you say ambiguity?
- BKBert Kreischer
I'd never have said it.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a weird one, right?
- BKBert Kreischer
I, I-
- JRJoe Rogan
Comes out of the mouth weird.
- BKBert Kreischer
... I stay away from a lot of big words. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Especially after coffee. Ambiguity. Yeah, if y- ... But nobody would have ever anticipated that there would be debate about gen- ... gender.
- BKBert Kreischer
Oh, my daughters, uh, were outside of, like, one of the progressive bathrooms, where it's not men only-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- BKBert Kreischer
It's just a bathroom. And my daughters saw her first dick that way. Just pushed open a door, 'cause it's no man or woman, and then she's like, "Ah." And I was like, "What is the matter?" And she goes-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BKBert Kreischer
... "I just saw a man's penis." (laughs) And I was like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Why didn't the guy lock the door?
- BKBert Kreischer
Sometimes you don't. I've done it. You walk in and you're not thinking, and you just don't lock the door, but-
- JRJoe Rogan
So was it at any-sex bathroom or was it at a a- ... any-gender bathroom?
- BKBert Kreischer
I don't know. They have ... I don't fucking know.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know what? I was in a restroom once, uh, a restaurant once, and I was waiting for the bathroom. It's a long fucking wait, man. And, uh, uh, finally the door opens, and a chick comes out. The men's room.
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And she looked at me like ... Like, "Yeah, I was in the m- ... I was in the men's room." Like, what if I was in the women's room taking a shit? Uh, what if you were in there taking a-
- BKBert Kreischer
I've done that.
- JRJoe Rogan
... a big steamer.
- BKBert Kreischer
I did that coming off-
- JRJoe Rogan
Have you?
- BKBert Kreischer
... of a plane from, uh, Atlanta. I was, I was-
- JRJoe Rogan
You went into the women's room?
- BKBert Kreischer
Ireland to Atlanta, boozing on the flight. This was a while ago. Headset's in, hoodie on, about to take a shit. I'm like f- ... It's creeping-
- 24:57 – 29:44
Old viral videos, Redban’s editing, and the content game (YouTube/Twitch/vlogging)
- BKBert Kreischer
I was just telling Jamie back, like, before you got here, how important those videos were. All the videos you shot with B- with Redban and Ari and Joey. The Joey Karati video. All the stuff you guys used to put online, that's so important to where you are today, in my opinion.
- JRJoe Rogan
What do you mean?
- BKBert Kreischer
I... Man, the... I found that stuff. When YouTube started blowing up, that stuff was in such heavy rotation for comics. Like, you'd look for comics, and you were recognizable because of Fear Factor and News Radio. But I've... I got to those videos, and I probably watched every single one of the videos you guys shot, as, as did all of us. Tom did, all of us, just because it was like... It was the content we could find.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- BKBert Kreischer
That's what we're talking about with Twitch, is like get on Twitch now and start uploading content because one day, someone will see it and go, "Oh, I know that guy." And, uh, and I really believe that you guys were so ahead of that curve, where people are like, "I'm not... I don't even know how to upload a video."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BKBert Kreischer
You guys had edited great content. Heckler in Columbus, uh, Ari dealing with the heckler in DC, the g- the feminist arguing with you, that guy... You choking that guy out in the store. Like, those were videos where you're like, I'd watch them four or five times.
- JRJoe Rogan
There was a lot of those, but you know what, what was really good about it was Redban's editing.
- BKBert Kreischer
He was-
- JRJoe Rogan
He just doesn't like to do that though. It's too m- too time-consuming, and he's too lazy. He just doesn't like to do videos, but he's really talented. Like, his video editing skills, like that Mencia video, that was part of why that video was so popular, because it's a long-ass video.
- BKBert Kreischer
Dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
But his editing skills were so good.
- BKBert Kreischer
What was the music he played? (singing)
- JRJoe Rogan
I forget.
- BKBert Kreischer
It was... The music was perfect.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, it was. The whole thing was... You know, it's... He's a really good editor. He really... He's really talented at it, but it's so time-consuming, and it drives him nuts that he'd rather just fuck around and do podcasts and have a good time. But when he was doing it, like when we were going on the road together, and he was filming a lot of stuff and splicing things together, we'd make a video every couple of months or something like that, it was really fun. It was... It was an interesting experiment, you know, just to, just to fuck around.
- BKBert Kreischer
I got into... When I got into vlogging, and Jamie was like right there when I started vlogging, 'cause we, we were both found... Casey Neistat, I think, at the same time. And I got really into vlogging, and I loved it, man. I don't... I think I maybe did like 40 episodes, and it was just fun. But then it s- I started realizing it was in- cannibalizing my life to a point where I wasn't living an authentic life at all.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- BKBert Kreischer
And I wasn't writing any material. I was just shooting everything. Everything was shot. Like, if I saw you, I'd be like... I wouldn't be like, "Oh, cool, I get to hang out with Joe." I'd be like, "Oh, hey guys, I'm with Joe," you know? And I was like, "That's..."
- JRJoe Rogan
Right, right.
- BKBert Kreischer
I'm... And, and-
- JRJoe Rogan
That, that is the trap that the people fall into. You know? I mean, if you look at some people's Instagram stories, you're like, "What are you doing, man? You have a million dots." Your Instagram is like little tiny dots. Dot, dot, dot, dot, dot.
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, your whole day? Y- your whole day, you have just a phone in front of you? What do you just have, like, constant l- battery chargers, and you're just constantly charging up your phone and filming video? This is crazy.
- BKBert Kreischer
I do it... This is the way I look at Instagram. I do it... I'll do those stories aggressively if I'm running the triathlon, running a marathon, doing a big event.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right. Yeah.
- BKBert Kreischer
Like, and I d- and that's... I mean, uh, not to tip the hat or whatever or tell you guys my business plan, but that's what I do. Like, I, I like to do big things, and then that's how my stories... And then I'll fuck around on the weekend, and I'll put up maybe like three stories a day, five stories a day, and I'll show you my life a little bit. But for the most part, I... Like, I, I try to m- I try to distance myself from it for two reasons. Number one, it fucks with my eyesight. Like, if I'm on my phone a lot-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
- BKBert Kreischer
... my eyes are fucked.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- 29:44 – 34:27
Bert’s ‘Open Tabs’ podcast brain: internet rabbit holes to spearfishing obsession
- JRJoe Rogan
Wait, what is your solo podcast? You have a solo one as well?
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah, I do a s- uh, solo podcast called-
- JRJoe Rogan
Just talk to yourself?
- BKBert Kreischer
No, it's called Open Tabs.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- BKBert Kreischer
So I go throughout on the weekend, like when I'm normally killing time looking on the internet, and I just leave all those tabs open on Safari. And then I go in, and I just go through and close them and tell you what they are and show you the video I was watching.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh. (laughs)
- BKBert Kreischer
So like, it's a lot of videos of you-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BKBert Kreischer
... and like h- and r- like all my friends, 'cause I w- I watch all my friends do shit. Like if Bill Burr kills it on some interview, I show that. Um, or if you like, like a lot of... I mean, a lot of them are like the interviews you have with these guys like David Attiah and, and Cam Hanes. Cam Hanes is... Like all those g- all those like really inspirational guys, I'll pull up videos of them. And then I... All of a sudden, I'll get obsessed with flash floods-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BKBert Kreischer
... and fucking-
- JRJoe Rogan
Flash floods are scary.
- BKBert Kreischer
Dude, there's this guy, no joke.... like, I think I'm a good comic. This guy's better at what he does, but he tracks flash floods. And he's like, he's like on camera, like, "Okay, I'm in this valley. It's rai-... See this cloud over there? It's raining over there. It should be to us in 15 minutes, all right? We're gonna stay with it." And this guy finds a plot of land where the flash flood will run, and he can chase it, and almost follow it, follow it, hop up on the bank, and then cut a corner and get in front of it again. This guy's so good at fucking following flash floods. There is this girl. Th- this is what I find on the internet, 'cause like, I get online. There's this girl, Kimi Werner, okay? This girl is the best. I'm obsessed with spearfishing right now, and I've never-
- JRJoe Rogan
Spearfishing?
- BKBert Kreischer
... never done it in my life. I'm s- obsessed with spear... I watch spearfishing videos, Joe, maybe eight hours a day.
- JRJoe Rogan
What?
- BKBert Kreischer
Dude, like, when I'm in bed, and you know when you're killing time, Kimi Werner. T- pull up Kimi Werner. This woman is, uh, fucking amazing. This is a picture of her swimming with a great white shark, okay?
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, I've got a spearfishing woman coming on next week.
- BKBert Kreischer
Who?
- JRJoe Rogan
Valentine Thomas.
- BKBert Kreischer
I don't know her. I'm Googling the fuck outta her.
- JRJoe Rogan
G- Google Valentine Thomas. She's coming on next week. She was a lawyer who, uh, quit her gig and, uh, became, uh, like, a, a, a very, uh, active and active on social media spearfisherman.
- BKBert Kreischer
Oh, she's beautiful. Where is she out of? Flo-... The Keys?
- JRJoe Rogan
She's, she's in Florida somewhere, I believe.
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BKBert Kreischer
On the, on the West Coast of Florida is a big spearfishing community, shooting a lot of hoghead groupers. By the way, this is the way I talk about something I've never fucking done.
- JRJoe Rogan
We should do it.
- BKBert Kreischer
I'm do... I'll... I'm in, I'm in.
- 34:27 – 38:40
HECS suits, diving adventures, and endurance inspiration (Goggins/Cam Hanes)
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, you know, you know what a HECS suit is? You ever heard of a HECS suit?
- BKBert Kreischer
Uh-uh.
- JRJoe Rogan
They got this suit called H-E-C-S. It's like a suit that, uh, there, there's some... It's based on something, I think it's called the Faraday cage. And what it does is it hides your electrical signal. And one of the things about fish is that fish, uh-
- BKBert Kreischer
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... apparently, they read your electrical signal, like the, like... You, you can take a... There's certain machines that like, you could hover your hand over 'em, and it'll register that an electrical signal's coming off of your body. But then when you put this HECS suit on, you run your hand over the same exact machine, it shows nothing.
- BKBert Kreischer
Really?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, so this, this suit is something that... It's very controversial in the hunting community, 'cause some people don't believe it s- really works, 'cause there's no real clear absolute studies that it works on animals. But there are clear studies that it shields your body's electrical signal. And, but it works pretty unequivocably on fish. On fish, it's crazy. You gotta... Pull up HECS suit, H-E-C-S suit video fish.
- BKBert Kreischer
So you basically roll into the water like Predator?
- JRJoe Rogan
You put... Yeah, you put gloves on.
- BKBert Kreischer
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
You put a suit on, and they can't see you. Like, they... For whatever reason, you can get right up to them. It's fucking weird, man. But you-
- BKBert Kreischer
Whoa.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, you get right up to fish, right up to, like, uh, corals. They get right up to coral reefs. See now, here's the thing. I don't know how much of this would happen exactly the same way if this guy wasn't wearing this suit, 'cause I don't really, I don't really have that information.
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But I do know that people that spearfish and people that like, are involved with, uh, you know, underwater diving and shit, they swear by these things. They, they, they say it absolutely works. And they had it on Shark Week too. They were using it on Shark Week.
- BKBert Kreischer
That's amazing.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's something about those suits. Yeah. I don't... Yeah.
- BKBert Kreischer
Ari and I were t-... I was gonna go out to, uh, the Great Barrier Reef with Ari. If Tom is going out there at the same time, we're all three gonna go dive at the Great Barrier Reef.
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoa.
- BKBert Kreischer
Do a liveaboard. Ari and I are actually l-... Have been talking back and forth about finding a place to do a liveaboard and go-
- JRJoe Rogan
A liveaboard?
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah, like a boat.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like a boat?
- BKBert Kreischer
Where you can stay for like four days, you do two dives a day, do like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Damn.
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's an adventure.
- BKBert Kreischer
Ari's all about living life. And if I can mold-
- 38:40 – 55:42
Cutting back on drinking, panic loops at night, and coping tools (tank/sauna/Sober October)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Are you not drinking?
- BKBert Kreischer
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
For how long?
- BKBert Kreischer
I just haven't been.
- JRJoe Rogan
For how long?
- BKBert Kreischer
Not... I mean, I will, but n-
- JRJoe Rogan
But not on stage?
- BKBert Kreischer
Uh, no. I mean, I'll, I'll take a drink with me at the end of the night.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- BKBert Kreischer
Like when, when I tell the machine story on the second show, I'll have that drink.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's it?
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
What's going on?
- BKBert Kreischer
Nothing, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
Cleaning it up?
- BKBert Kreischer
No, I'm just... I don't know. I don't know. (laughs) I don't know.
- JRJoe Rogan
Growing up?
- BKBert Kreischer
No. No, I still party, but like... Yeah, like if I saw you at the store tonight, I still party and smoke.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay.
- BKBert Kreischer
And... But I just... I don't know.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BKBert Kreischer
It's... There's no re- I, I... This is what sucks about being me, is like people will go, "What's h- what's going on? Are you sick? Is something going on?" And you're like, "No, just... I'm also regular." (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, it's fine.
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Nothing wrong with that.
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah. I, I... You know, I did the triathlon and I didn't drink leading up to it, and I did it and I felt really good. I just felt really good. And I thought... And, you know, you know when you have friends that... I, I'm 45, and so you start say- seeing friends that, that lifestyle starts to affect in different ways. And you go, "Okay, I want... I w- I don't ever wanna quit drinking. I don't ever wanna quit smoking weed. I don't ever wanna go with Ari and run a marathon and then not do mushrooms with him in S- in Buenos Aires." I want that to be a part of my life, but I can't have that if I'm going at the pace I'm going at. Like I can't, I can't have both.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, you started to rely on your body a lot more. Like you, what you're doing with all this running and, you know, these, uh, the t- what was that one that you did where you had to do all the obstacle courses and shit?
- BKBert Kreischer
Spartan Race.
- JRJoe Rogan
Spartan Race. Doing a triathlon. You're relying on your body.
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- 55:42 – 1:05:44
Food and cooking detour: Something’s Burning, humane crab killing, dry-aged beef, and sous vide
- BKBert Kreischer
Dude, we went in, when we went and did that first Something's Burning, it's me, Bill, and Tom, and I walked on set and I said, "I'm super difficult to work with. Just want everyone to know that. Uh, don't anyone stop me. Don't anyone do anything. I'll let you know when we start and I'll let you know when we're done." And they're like, "Okay." I said, "Just cover everything. Don't ever ask me to stop and do anything. Just cover everything."
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a problem, when they go, "Stop."
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
"We gotta ... Rewind. Say that again. What?"
- BKBert Kreischer
Yup.
- JRJoe Rogan
No. Get a camera on me and stay out of the picture. Just leave me alone. Like-
- BKBert Kreischer
Yup.
- JRJoe Rogan
... they don't understand that every time you break that momentum, now I'm thinking about you and I'm thinking about that camera and I have to reset again.
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just-
- BKBert Kreischer
And we did it, we did, me and Tom and Bill did that first one, just one take, both b- ... I think both Tom and Bill were like, "I got 45 minutes." I was like, "Perfect. We sh- ... We got it all." They got up, I think they aired, aired almost all of it, and then everyone loved it. And then D'Elia and Bo- ... and Bobby Lee came in. Same thing. I was like, "No one say a thing." Dude, the best ones, Schaub and Bryan Callen, to me, are my favorite, 'cause you see Brendan Schaub in a po- ... He is so fucking funny in that, God.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's a very funny dude.
- BKBert Kreischer
He is so fucking funny in that, that like, our edit-
- JRJoe Rogan
What'd you guys cook?
- BKBert Kreischer
Oh, my God, Joe. We cooked crab, but we had to kill them on air, and you have to kill 'em in a humane way.
- JRJoe Rogan
What?
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah, in order to do it, you have to kill 'em in a humane way. You have t-
- JRJoe Rogan
What do you mean, in order to do it?
- BKBert Kreischer
In order to kill a crab, legally, especially on YouTube, you gotta kill it in a humane way.
- JRJoe Rogan
What?
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah. So you gotta, it's gotta be within six seconds.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, I shot a elk with a bow and arrow on YouTube.
- BKBert Kreischer
I-
- JRJoe Rogan
You can go watch-
- BKBert Kreischer
Don't-
- JRJoe Rogan
... you can go watch a elk get shot through the heart with a bow and arrow.
- BKBert Kreischer
Don't even. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
You have to be careful with a crab?
- BKBert Kreischer
All I know is that the one note we got was-
- JRJoe Rogan
It didn't even have senses.
- 1:05:44 – 1:18:03
Family gross-outs, puke immunity, backyard chickens, and the realities of pets
- BKBert Kreischer
When you go travel and you go to like Thailand and stuff, do you get foodie and go in and try to find something dangerous and crazy or do you just pretty much stay?
- JRJoe Rogan
I didn't eat bugs, but I ate some really hot food.
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, no bugs. They, they tried to serve me bugs. I'm like, "Bitch, I hosted Fear Factor for six years."
- BKBert Kreischer
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
"Get that shit out of my face."
- BKBert Kreischer
You're the wrong guy. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I'm just not interested in your bugs. Not only that, it doesn't gross me out at all. Like nothing grosses me out, like eating bugs or anything, throw up.
- BKBert Kreischer
I remember your wife threw up in her car one time. I think I was ... I came u- either I came over there and you were cleaning out your wife's car. I said, "What are you doing here?" You were like, "Oh, my wife threw up all over the car, one of those green drinks." And I was like ... (imitates vomiting)
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