Joe Rogan Experience #1161 - Jerrod Carmichael & Jamar Neighbors

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   Five, four, three, two,…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:03

      Five, four, three, two, one. Live? And we're live. Mr. Carmichael.

   2. JCJerrod Carmichael0:11

      Hello, my friend.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      Mr. Neighbors.

   4. JNJamar Neighbors0:13

      Hello, Joe Rogan.

   5. JCJerrod Carmichael0:14

      Uh, my friend, Jamar.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      I know. Uh, Jamar, welcome.

   7. JNJamar Neighbors0:17

      Thank you, man. Thank you.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      Didn't know you were coming, but glad to see you.

   9. JNJamar Neighbors0:19

      Man, me neither, man. He made, he made me come. (laughs)

   10. JCJerrod Carmichael0:22

       Well-

   11. JNJamar Neighbors0:22

       He came by the house. He just came by.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:24

       (laughs)

   13. JCJerrod Carmichael0:24

       I was like, "I'm gonna, I'm going to Joe Rogan." And he was like, "Oh, I'm gonna come."

   14. JNJamar Neighbors0:28

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       I was like-

   16. JCJerrod Carmichael0:29

       (laughs)

   17. JNJamar Neighbors0:30

       "That's perfect."

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       (laughs) Perfect, perfect. What the fuck is going on, man? What are you up to?

   19. JCJerrod Carmichael0:34

       Not much. I just got in from New York, like, two hours ago, and now I'm here. I feel real... I don't know. I feel like a... You know, you ever see, like, a homeless man smoking a cigarette?

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:46

       Yeah.

   21. JCJerrod Carmichael0:46

       And he just feels, like, real zen and this is his... That's how, that's how I feel emotionally right now.

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       Really?

   23. JCJerrod Carmichael0:52

       Yeah, really, like-

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:53

       Like a homeless dude smoking a cigarette?

   25. JCJerrod Carmichael0:54

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan0:54

       What a weird analogy.

   27. JCJerrod Carmichael0:55

       I feel it's great.

   28. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       Hmm.

   29. JCJerrod Carmichael0:58

       It's really great.

   30. JRJoe Rogan0:59

       Trying to figure that out, that feeling.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Right. …

   1. JCJerrod Carmichael15:00

      art that people are consuming, right? So, like, even if you release your standup album, you know... A lot of times people who buy standup albums, buy standup albums, you know? And like-

   2. Right.

   3. ... so they listen to you in context of the other standup albums that y- you have. Like, and it's, it's a strong comparison culture standup has, right? Like hip hop, where it's always in relation... It's not, "This is my favorite rapper." It's, "This rapper's better than that rapper."

   4. Right, right.

   5. And like... (laughs) You know, it c- it... And comedians and consumers of it, you know, it, it's a lot of association.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:35

      Yeah.

   7. JCJerrod Carmichael15:35

      So, it's like, you know, it should force you to be you. Specifically you.

   8. Yeah.

   9. That's needed more than ever before.

   10. Right.

   11. You know, like, like you need to be yourself completely or if you're a character, that character needs to be hammered the fuck down.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:53

       Yeah. And who you are changes depending upon your environment. That's one of the things about The Store. Like, since I've come back to The Store, I... It's tightened me up. It's made me better-

   13. JCJerrod Carmichael16:02

       Mm-hmm.

   14. JRJoe Rogan16:02

       ... coming back to The Store.

   15. JCJerrod Carmichael16:03

       Mm-hmm.

   16. JRJoe Rogan16:03

       'Cause th- it's like being in that environment, being in that pressure cooker wh- around all these other creative people and everybody's constantly getting after it.

   17. JCJerrod Carmichael16:10

       Yeah. No, it's great. It's a really good, uh, kind of artist colony. At his best i- it can operate like that-

   18. Yeah.

   19. ... where you can just kind of run am... On its best, like, I remember nights when we would run in... between rooms-

   20. Yeah.

   21. ... even before getting spots, just to go see each, you know, each room, different comedians, and you just kinda absorb it and watch it and get excited about it.

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:34

       Yeah, you could do three different sets in that place and have three different universes. Like, you're in the belly room, then you're in the main room-

   23. JCJerrod Carmichael16:40

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:40

       ... then you're in the OR. That's three different worlds.

   25. JCJerrod Carmichael16:42

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:42

       They really are.

   27. JCJerrod Carmichael16:43

       Mm-hmm.

   28. Yeah, three completely different energies.

   29. (coughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:45

       It changes people too. Like, that's one of the reasons why Kinison became who he was, 'cause he was doing those late night spots. He was doing those same spots at, like, Holtzman gets. Those, those late spots. And he just had to capture peoples' attention. So he'd just go out there screaming.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Right. …

   1. JCJerrod Carmichael30:00

      to be something that it's not.

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:01

      Right.

   3. JCJerrod Carmichael30:01

      You know? When it feels like there- there ju- These late night shows, when they're just doing fun things that they think are fun and interesting, I love, you know-... Kimmel always, every year, does, like, the parents that tell the kids that know Halloween, that they ate all the Halloween candy.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:17

      Yeah.

   5. JCJerrod Carmichael30:17

      And the kids' reactions and stuff. Like, I eat that stuff up. I love that ta- you know what I mean? (laughs) It's so-

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:21

      No, those sketches are fun.

   7. JCJerrod Carmichael30:23

      But, but like when it, you know, when shows pretend to be, you know, 1989, i- i- it's just like, when comedians pretend to be of a different era or pretend to ... i- it just feels false. And I think that's where you check out.

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:38

      Yeah. It's just unnecessary at this point, you know? Because of the internet, you, you, well, you just have too many other venues.

   9. JCJerrod Carmichael30:46

      Yeah. Well, you, it's a lot of options.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:48

       Yeah.

   11. JCJerrod Carmichael30:48

       A lot of options, yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:49

       And the ven- like, watching things on the internet is so much more satisfying. It's like watching a comic on a podcast, you're gonna get this chan- chance to see who the fuck they really are.

   13. JCJerrod Carmichael30:57

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:58

       Instead of some weird set in front of some audience that got shipped in from Burbank and they got applause signs and everything.

   15. JCJerrod Carmichael31:04

       (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan31:04

       Those, it's, it's very surreal-

   17. JCJerrod Carmichael31:06

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan31:06

       ... when you go to a live taping and you watch that. It's really surreal.

   19. JCJerrod Carmichael31:10

       Oh, it's very, like ... (laughs) And I'll sit e- I, I, I have like, you know, it's always we- I have (laughs) like weird, uh, late night thi- 'cause I, I've, like, I'm bad at being, like, the, you know, celebrity type of thing. Like, I'm just in it and just, like, looking at it.

   20. JRJoe Rogan31:31

       Right.

   21. JCJerrod Carmichael31:31

       And when the crowd is giving an unnatural reaction to things, it's just like, what are you-

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:37

       Right.

   23. JCJerrod Carmichael31:38

       I, I'm-

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:38

       You're too introspective, you're not gonna just dive in and fake this.

   25. JCJerrod Carmichael31:40

       Yeah, I'm like, "Hey." No, but-

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:42

       (laughs)

   27. JCJerrod Carmichael31:42

       "Hey, bro, what are we doing?"

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:46

       (laughs)

   29. JCJerrod Carmichael31:46

       For real.

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:46

       What is this?
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Right. …

   1. JCJerrod Carmichael45:00

      small. When you think about like the immediate, you know, not the, you know, ju- uh, the base level of Maslow's hierarchy. (laughs)

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:09

      Right.

   3. JCJerrod Carmichael45:09

      You know like, like if that's taken care ... Usually it's like, oh, I don't re- you know, there are things that are ongoing, things to figure out, but like things that you could define as like a problem and then just kinda staying in that space of like, you know, control.

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:24

      Yeah. Like a real issue. Like what's a real issue?

   5. JCJerrod Carmichael45:27

      Well, where there's like immediacy like, you know.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:30

      Yeah.

   7. JCJerrod Carmichael45:30

      And, and when, when there are real problems, you know, a lot of times you, you handle it well. Like i- instinctually, the things like ... A lo- a lot of times people get calm in like those i- intense situations.

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:45

      Mm-hmm.

   9. JCJerrod Carmichael45:45

      Like, you know, like they can handle like real problems. It's the anticipation of problems and the anticipation of solutions that, that's what drives you crazy.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:53

       Mm-hmm. That's a very good point. Yeah. That's a very good point. Yeah, a lot of times real problems, they also sort of enlighten you to the fact that most of the time y- your problems are bullshit. You know, you break your leg-

   11. JCJerrod Carmichael46:04

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan46:04

       ... you go, "Oh, this is real."

   13. JCJerrod Carmichael46:05

       Yeah, that's an immediate problem.

   14. JRJoe Rogan46:08

       That's a real fucking problem. Yeah.

   15. JCJerrod Carmichael46:08

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan46:09

       Yeah.

   17. JCJerrod Carmichael46:10

       And so just staying in the space of like, you know, all right. I can ... You're in a control center. You got, you know ...

   18. JRJoe Rogan46:16

       You know what else, what helps me is, uh, b- like because yoga's hard to do, doing things that are difficult to do make things easier, make other things easier.

   19. JCJerrod Carmichael46:27

       Mm-hmm.

   20. JRJoe Rogan46:27

       Working out, hard workouts make other things easier.

   21. JCJerrod Carmichael46:30

       Yep.

   22. Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan46:31

       Like running hills, kickboxing, anything that's brutal.

   24. JCJerrod Carmichael46:34

       Well, it gives context.

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:35

       Yeah.

   26. JCJerrod Carmichael46:35

       It gives context to everything.

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:37

       Yeah, it shows you what the real struggle is.

   28. JCJerrod Carmichael46:37

       Growing up in the hood makes Hollywood interactions easy. (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:41

       Yes. There you go.

   30. JCJerrod Carmichael46:43

       You know what I mean?
5. 1:00:00 – 1:11:30

   How old are they?…

   1. JCJerrod Carmichael1:00:00

      nephew. Just-

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:01

      How old are they?

   3. JCJerrod Carmichael1:00:03

      All of my nie-... I cu-... I have an 11-year-old niece, a nine-year-old nephew, uh, a couple two-year-old twins, a three-year-old niece. Like, just... And I am myself (laughs) and speak exactly how I normally speak around them. You're an adult longer than you're a kid.

   4. JNJamar Neighbors1:00:20

      Right.

   5. JCJerrod Carmichael1:00:21

      You know? And so it's just like I... Why am I gonna pretend the world sounds different?

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:26

      Look, I- I'm with you, but-

   7. JCJerrod Carmichael1:00:28

      And, and for like-

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:29

      ... some... Whose, whose kids are they? Your brother's or your sister's?

   9. JCJerrod Carmichael1:00:31

      Yeah, my brother.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:32

       Your brother's and sister-in-law.

   11. JCJerrod Carmichael1:00:33

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:33

       And everybody cool with that or they get, get upset at-

   13. JCJerrod Carmichael1:00:35

       Uh, they g-... I mean, they go like, "Oh, come on."... sometimes.

   14. JNJamar Neighbors1:00:39

       (screams)

   15. JCJerrod Carmichael1:00:39

       But it's also, they get it.

   16. JNJamar Neighbors1:00:41

       Right.

   17. JCJerrod Carmichael1:00:41

       They... My, my brother, they're, they're very understanding. While they... They get it. They get that it's just, like... (sighs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:00:47

       It's how people talk-

   19. JCJerrod Carmichael1:00:48

       It's how-

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:00:48

       ... in the real world.

   21. JCJerrod Carmichael1:00:49

       Yeah, yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:00:49

       Yeah.

   23. JCJerrod Carmichael1:00:50

       Yeah. I mean, I think that's important. Again, like, you don't wanna... That's the thing, man. Just, like, it's 'cause that's adults are supposed to-

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:00:55

       Well, that's how you know you fucked up, if you're at a job where not only can you not swear, but you can't swear off-job with the people you work with, or they'll tell-

   25. JCJerrod Carmichael1:01:05

       Does that?

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:05

       Or they'll get... Yeah, you can get in trouble. Yeah. You, y- if... There's certain jobs where people have, where they, they got off work and they went out with some coworkers.

   27. JCJerrod Carmichael1:01:14

       Mm-hmm.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:14

       And they told a dirty joke or started talking shit, like, that'll get back to human resources and they'll be fired.

   29. JNJamar Neighbors1:01:20

       Bosses are now-

   30. JCJerrod Carmichael1:01:21

       Yeah, that's a real thing.

Episode duration: 2:01:06