Joe Rogan Experience #1166 - Diamond Dallas Page

Diamond Dallas Page is a semi-retired professional wrestler, fitness instructor, motivational speaker and actor. Check out https://ddpyoga.com/ for link to his app DDPYoga.

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Sep 5, 20182h 19mWatch on YouTube ↗

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0:02 – 1:43
Mindset, resilience, and making yoga “for guys”
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Four, three, two, one. (clapperboard snaps) Mr. Page-
2. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  (laughs)
3. JRJoe Rogan
  ... how are you?
4. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  I never had a bad day in my life.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Ever?
6. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Oh, I've had plenty of bad moments. (laughs)
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Bad moments, but you recovered.
8. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Yeah. You know, um, to me, it's all your state of mind, period. And I don't stay there. If I go down, I get back up.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  If you're gonna chew that-
10. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Don't do it.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  ... people are gonna go fucking crazy.
12. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  (laughs)
13. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs) I put one of those in my mouth the other day-
14. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  (laughs)
15. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and I got like 150 comments 'cause I had a sore throat.
16. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Oh.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Sorry. (laughs)
18. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Well, I got, I got the throat coat, so. (laughs)
19. JRJoe Rogan
  Throat coat. Yeah. Um, listen, man, first of all, I love what you're doing.
20. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Thank you.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  I really do. I think it's fantastic, and I'm a, a big fan of yoga. And what you've done for not just... What you've done is made yoga available to people that thought that yoga was for chicks.
22. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Right. And, and, and I, I've, I, you know, now, it's really funny you say that because how it started, it was yoga for regular, it was regular people, you know, regular guys.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, w-
24. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  I made it for guys.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  People think of yoga as being something that, like, you have to be into, you know, you gotta be all namaste-
26. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Right.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and sp- And you hear Dallas Diamond Page. What the fuck? Huh? How-
28. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  (laughs) Or Diamond Dallas Page.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Either one.
30. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  (laughs)
1:43 – 4:11
Late-bloomer wrestling career and the back injury that changed everything
1. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  ... I'm, I'm the guy who wouldn't be caught dead doing yoga the first 42 years of my life. But I didn't start wrestling until I was 35.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Really?
3. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Really. And my career didn't take off until I was 40.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  How old are you now?
5. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  62.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Dude, if you, if you folks saw what he just did with no warmup. No warmup, bent over, grabbed your ankles, fully, fully flattened your body out, pressed your body up against your thighs, with no warmup. Then he picks his knee, his ankle up and fully extends his leg over his head. I mean, that i- that is incredibly impressive for a 20-year-old person.
7. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Well, it's all about staying ahead of it. You know, it's all about owning it. Um, going back to, you know, the, just my, my career, I mean, my career took off in '96, which was, I was 40 years old. '97 and '98, man, I was on top of the world, wrestling 270 days a year, every year. And then I did The Tonight Show, Hollywood Squares, a movie called, uh, uh, First Daughter was my first movie I did. So, I mean, I was probably working 320 days a year. And the wear and tear on your body after a while, like, boom, I took a power slam from, or a power bomb from Kevin Nash. Kevin's legit 6'10", long way down. And it wasn't that bump that blew my back out. It was all of it, and being almost 43 years old. And when I ruptured my L4 and L5, and we have this amazing vertebrae, that is what allows us to do all this crazy shit that we do. What really allows us is those shock absorbers, absorbers, those discs in between the vertebrae. Well, think of a jelly donut and (claps) slap that jelly donut, and now there's nothing there. So I have no discs in between my L4 or L5. I was told by three different spine specialists, "You're never gonna wrestle again." I just signed a multimillion dollar three-year deal. So the guy who wouldn't be caught dead doing yoga would do anything to get back in a ring. And I was married at the time, and, uh, she kind of bullied me into it. And once I started doing it, Joe, just like you know, I started to feel a difference. And I thought, I'm thinking, "Wow."
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Now did you talk to any doctors that wanted to replace your discs or fuse your discs?
9. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  (clears throat) Two wanted to fuse them, one didn't. And his thing was-
10. JRJoe Rogan
  What year was this?
11. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Uh, 1999, so right at the beginning.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  So there wasn't any of those spacers that they have now.
13. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  No, they didn't have any of that.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Any of the titanium discs?
4:11 – 7:46
From power yoga to a new system: rehab + calisthenics + dynamic resistance
1. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Didn't have any of that. And his whole thing was, "If we do fuse you and you go back, you will be crippled, because you won't recover from that." So again, going to do yoga, and I started doing Brian Kest. Have you ever taken one of my Brian Kest classes here in LA?
2. JRJoe Rogan
  No.
3. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  He's amazing. He went with-
4. JRJoe Rogan
  What kind of yoga is that?
5. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Power yoga. He's the guy who kind of put power yoga on the map. And he made me feel like, "Okay, that dude's cool." Like, and then today he's a buddy of mine, (laughs) you know. Uh, but at the time, I was just doing his VHS tapes. But for what I wanted, it wasn't giving me everything. So what I did, now I've already had both shoulder surgeries, both knee surgeries, and I'm kind of like God-given gift of figuring out how to heal myself. I'm the first guy in professional wrestling to ever ice his body by almost a decade, eight years before they would start doing that.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  You mean like ice baths? Like getting in a tub-
7. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Like, like ice your, ice your shoulders, ice your knees-
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Ice everything.
9. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  ... ice your back. Inflammation, take it down.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
11. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  I, I just got that.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  How'd you figure that out?
13. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Um, you know, just different reading on different, you know, people and how they healed themselves-
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
15. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  ... and what people were saying. And what I've found that a lot of people don't want to put the extra work in. And I can... They can be the hardest workers ever, but they won't go that extra mile just to go get a bag of ice-
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
17. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  ... fill it up, put it on your knees, put an ACE bandage around it, you can go wherever you want.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, but it's also like part of the culture of tough guys, right?
19. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Right.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, they don't give a fuck.
21. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Right.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Let's just go get a beer and have some food.
23. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  (laughs)
24. JRJoe Rogan
  You know, right? There's, there's-
25. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Steve Austin. (laughs)
26. JRJoe Rogan
  There's a little bit of that, right? There's something about the same type of guy that's so tough they could work 300 days a year-
27. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Right.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  ... is also the same type of guy that's gonna go, "Ah, I'll fucking just deal with it."
29. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Ex- You know, and Steve, me and Austin, when I broke in, I was like 35 and a half, he's 26. And Austin was always way ahead of the curve as far as talent. But he wouldn't, you know, he wouldn't, he was like, "What are you doing, kid? Why you got those ice bags?" So back then we were drinking in beers, not that it's right to do, but back then we were. And he would put the beers (laughs) on my ice bags in between my, uh, my ACE bandages to keep his beers cold. Uh... (laughs)
30. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
7:46 – 8:41
Branding it DDPY: tone, attitude, and making fitness fun
1. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  core strength is at a different level. I don't lift weights anymore. I haven't really for 10 years because I really don't need it and I don't need to size. I like being like 230. The bottom line is what today is called, I'm branding it DDPY. Why? Because I want people to stop calling it just yoga because it's so different. Now, you've done a lot of yoga.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
3. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  What you j- I just took you through in that minute and a half, is that like anything you've ever done in a yoga studio?
4. JRJoe Rogan
  No, it's very different. You're, uh, y- what you're saying, your dynamic tension thing-
5. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Right.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  ... definitely adds another element to it.
7. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  And then I have fun with it, man. I got ... (laughs) I do, I do shit like, when you take your, into a s- uh, a lunge and you throw your arms up, I go, "Superstar."
8. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
9. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  You know? (laughs) You know, I got ... And when we're, when we're in a, like a lunge that we're folding forward and we're going to explode into touchdown-
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
11. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  ... I'd say, "Throw a little Ric Flair on the end of that." And as everybody explodes, "Woo!"
12. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
8:41 – 13:00
The wrestling business today: indies, TV money, and life on the road
1. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  You know, just having people having fun. I, I did, um, a big event. It was this weekend. It was called All In, and it's, uh, um, Cody Rhodes, who's the, uh, the American Dream Dusty Rhodes' son. He's been in independent wrestling. He was at the show, WWE for 10 years. And bottom line is, he went away, he left there, left guaranteed money, got to be like a half a million bucks. Left it and went to follow the dream because he knew he was a main event guy. And him and these kids, the Young Bucks, they sold out this arena, it was 10,426 people, in 29 minutes and 36 seconds.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  They counted? They counted the seconds?
3. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Well, they did, because it's a really big deal when you freaking sell out.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
5. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  When you're an independent group-
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
7. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  ... you're not the WWE.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  No, that's insane.
9. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  It's insane.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  How many different groups are there now? There's NWA.
11. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Well-
12. JRJoe Rogan
  There's WWE.
13. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Right. Um, there's ROH. Um, there's The Row, as my buddy Booker T calls it down there in Houston, uh-
14. JRJoe Rogan
  And NWA is what Billy Corgan, uh, uh, Billy Corgan owns, right?
15. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Right.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Correct.
17. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  And I'll tell you what, the sm- that's the, that's ... Cody was going for the NWA championship against Nick, who's just one of the st- stu- studs of our business. And, um, he, uh, they had a hell of a match and, uh, Billy owns that title. Now, think about this. Vince McMahon just, just ... I want to say he was paid 1.2 billion by Fox for the programming, for a live show on Friday nights. I'm not sure what the deal is at six years or eight years, but 1.2 billion. And then I heard there's another multi-billion dollar contract being out there, Comcast or something. So that's like NFL stuff. So when that kind of attention comes to wrestling, more people are going to be like, "Oh, I want to get involved in that." And plus Vince really has taken it mainstream at a different level. Like back when we were killing it in the '90s, I mean, we had the highest rated show on cable television, whether it was WCW or WWF. Every week we were one, two and three, sometimes one, two, three and four top four shows. But our dollars that we could get for the advertising was nothing like they're getting today because they made it kids friendly.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
19. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  They changed that and it was brilliant by Vince, you know, uh, it really, it changed format, but today it's about to go through another boom. And this whole independent thing that Cody and these Young Bucks who are great kids, uh, did, uh, it really lit up that world. And it's the same thing all over the country. I mean, I should say world. Japan's really big right now and so is, uh, so is, um, um, UK and Mexico. They're really, really big.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  One of the guys from the UFC, Matthew Riddle, just got signed to the WWE. He was, uh-
21. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  I heard that.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, his story is kind of, it's kind of fucked up. He got fired from the UFC for failing a pot test. And the crazy thing-
23. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  I heard that.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  It's so crazy. Let the guy smoke pot.
25. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  (laughs)
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Jesus Christ.
27. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Uncle.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  But it's even more crazy that, you know, now it's legal.
29. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Right.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Now pot's legal, and now the num- the level that you can get tested for is so much lower than anything that he got. But I think he enjoys it. I don't, I don't think he's missing fighting. You know, fighting is, uh, uh, uh, I know that pro wrestling is probably harder on your body doing those 300-
13:00 – 16:43
Helping wrestlers extend careers: NXT, Jericho, and daily ‘oil for the tin man’
1. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  I was down there. I train a lot of the guys down at n- it's called NXT, next, and that's, uh, these kids are unbelievable. They're so talented. But I bring my DDPY program down to them, and they're all on my ass.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  So you're starting that early with these guys.
3. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  So they... And plus, I'm like, you know, again, I'm 62, they're 24-
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
5. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  ... 22, 28. You know, so they grew up watching me, so it's much easier for ge- for me to get them to pay attention by-
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
7. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  ... all they have to do is look at Chris Jericho, who's one of the top stars in the world, and he is not with WWE right now. He, you know, he comes and goes. And he, he was at that show All In, he did a run in, a surprise thing, it blew the roof off. He's gonna be 48 in November. He wrestles like he's 28. He's been doing my program since he did the same thing I did when he blew his back out and three doctors said he was not gonna wrestle anymore. Five weeks later, 85% pain free, three months later he headlined WrestleMania against Punk. He talks about it all the time.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Now, how is your back today? Those, those same disks?
9. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  If I don't do it, it's kinda like brushing your teeth, you know, like you gotta brush your teeth. And I don't have to do it every single day, but I-
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Pretty close?
11. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Pretty much. You know, and I, when I wake up, I, my first 10 minutes, I call it wake up. Man, I feel, I call it oil for the tin man and woman.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
13. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  And the real proof of this for me, 'cause I'm the first transformation. The bottom line is, they said my career was over when I was 42. I started doing what now is called DDPY. Three months, less than three months later, Joey, I was back in the ring. At 42, they said my career was over, at 43 I'm the world champ. And that's like getting our... That's our Oscar. You know what I mean?
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
15. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  It's like you're the guy, you deserve this. When I-
16. JRJoe Rogan
  You have the most eyes on you.
17. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  You know, I was at, I was in a match with Hogan, Flair, and Sting. Three arguably maybe, you know, in the top five biggest names ever, and I walk out there world champion, Ric Flair took the diamond cutter in the middle. It was-
18. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
19. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Hogan took... Hogan gave me such a hug afterwards, like, "This is what this business is supposed to be. That someone like you, who no one would believe would ever be anyone, could work so hard that they would become the world champ." When I got my Hall of Fame ring, uh, in 2017, inside it had inscribed in here, "Work ethic equals dreams!" DDP. And that's what it is.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
21. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  You know, I don't tell you anything. You understand putting the work in.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. Putting the work in is everything. Now, you're back today. Did you ever get an MRI on it?
23. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Oh yeah, I did all that.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, but now?
25. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Now, you know, I don't have any... I don't... I c- if I don't do it, if I'm on too many planes, trains, and automobiles-
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
27. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  ... you know, then I'm gonna get release, but I know what to do. Like, I'd say to my wife, and I swear to God, 'cause every morning I do, I roll out of bed some nights and you feel like you got hit by a truck.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
29. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  You know what I mean? Sleeping is the worst thing for me because I get in those positions that, I don't know man.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
16:43 – 20:29
Book reveal and the mission: ‘Positively Unstoppable’ and owning your inner voice
1. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  The more you do something, the more you own it. And on that cl- I wanna, I wanna show you something I brought with me, 'cause I've been waiting for your show to release this.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh.
3. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  I've got a new book coming out.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Ooh.
5. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  And no one's seen this cover yet.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Ooh.
7. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  And it is called-
8. JRJoe Rogan
  It's a premiere.
9. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Yeah, it's premiere, premiere. And I'm doing something... I don't think anybody have ev- has ever really done this. Now, this isn't the book itself, this is just the cover.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Look at this. It's plastic and everything.
11. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  So it's, it's plastic.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Damn.
13. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  It's called Positively Unstoppable: The Art of Owning It.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Ooh. I like it.
15. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  What is it? It's whatever the fuck you you want it to be.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Let me check that out. Diamond Dallas Page, bitches. Respect.
17. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  (laughs)
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Look at that. That's beautiful.
19. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Mick Foley wrote the c- the funniest, most entertaining forward thinking ever.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  I wanna get that guy on. That guy's-
21. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  I, I get that happening hard for me.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  ... hilarious. He's friends with my friend Tony Hinchcliffe, who's a, a giant pro wrestling fan, and it's given me so much grief 'cause Tony's such a fan. I've made fun of wrestling 'cause Tony's a fan. Then people get mad at me.
23. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  (laughs) Right, right.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  So Tony is such a dork for it. They do this, uh, podcast at The Comedy Store-
25. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Right, yeah.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  ... where they do... What do they call it? The four...
27. YVYoung Jamie Vernon
  Four Storm Ent...
28. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  No. How... What is it?
29. YVYoung Jamie Vernon
  Sorry.
30. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Not The Four Horsemen.
20:29 – 26:34
The Arthur Boorman transformation: ‘Never Give Up’ and rebuilding from disability
1. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Uh, I think it's beverlykills.com. I'm pretty sure. So, this is Arthur Boerman. This is disabled veteran. And this is what DDP Yoga is, or DDPY. This-
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Is there a ... Oh, Jesus. Is there a link for this where, where Jamie could get a hold of it?
3. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Oh, absolutely.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  And he can put it on the YouTube?
5. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Absolutely. I- If you go to ddpyoga.com-
6. JRJoe Rogan
  He's in there?
7. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  And yeah, at the bottom of ddpyoga.com is the video of Arthur. So, let me show you this now.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Ja- show Jamie the, the image of him-
9. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Yeah.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  ... so he can look for it on your website.
11. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Yeah. Yeah, if you'll go all the way to the bottom on ddpyoga.com, it'll be sitting at the bottom.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  And, uh, what was wrong with Arthur?
13. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Okay. Uh, let me, let me just tell you the back story.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Okay.
15. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  This is crazy. Anyone who got my program 11 years ago, it was just workouts, period. And it was three different levels. And this fis- uh, first one was called 50 Plus. It's kind of like what I'm doing today with, um, where I'm helping people who are really disabled. And-
16. JRJoe Rogan
  So here he is.
17. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  ... okay, there he is right there. You wanna watch it?
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Sure. I-
19. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Hey, let's watch it.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Okay. Can we play this on YouTube?
21. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Yeah. Start, start it from the beginning.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  All right. I'll play this. Start from the beginning?
23. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Start from the beginning. This is awesome.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  "Doctor told me I'd never walk unassisted again," it says. So, for the people just listening, it says, "For 15 years doctors told me I would never walk unassisted again." And we're, we're seeing this gentleman with, uh, those, uh, crutches, those cane things on his forearms. "I accepted this as fact. I was a 47-year-old disabled veteran and I had basically given up. I was injured as a paratrooper in the Gulf War. Too many jumps, took its toll on m- on his back." Oh, man. Watch how he's land. "And, and my knees," it says. "I gained weight." W- we'll just watch an image of it. All this stuff is available online at ddpyoga.com, right? Is that what it is?
25. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Yeah, this, this video, yes. This has got mazillions and bazillions of views.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  That's a good number, mazillions.
27. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  (laughs)
28. JRJoe Rogan
  It says he "couldn't walk or run. Exercise seemed impossible. Most yoga instructors turned me away." This music's killing me.
29. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  (laughs)
30. JRJoe Rogan
  "All but one. All but one, motherfucker." It says, he "didn't know me, but he believed in me when no one else did." How long is this video? I feel like we might have to-
26:34 – 31:12
Diet, inflammation, and ‘real food’: gluten/dairy reduction and sustainable swaps
1. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  I told you there was a payoff. I mean, like, strong. And my, my, my business partner, Steve Yu, put that together. And I literally, um, did it with his son originally, and it was pretty good. But Steve just took it ... Like, he's the same guy who directed The Resurrection of Jake The Snake. So, let me finish with him. In six month- ... In, in 10 months, he lost th- 140 pounds. But fuck the weight, 'cause this is not about weight loss. It's just an awesome side effect. And think about that. With my shit, you could lose weight. But you know you can't out-train a bad diet.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
3. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  So you gotta do everything. You gotta, more than anything, change your mindset, which is what Positively Unstoppable is all about. Changing your mindset, but owning that inner voice, the story you tell yourself.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes.
5. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  So, Arthur lost 140 pounds. More importantly, he lost the knee braces, back brace, and canes. Not-
6. JRJoe Rogan
  He's lost the knee bra- ... No more knee braces?
7. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  No more knee braces.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  How did he do that?
9. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Oh, let me finish. Let me finish 'cause I got-
10. JRJoe Rogan
  No, please go ahead.
11. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  ... a good, good, good yet ... Knee braces and canes, not just to walk, but run. But this is what the program is really about. At one year, he's 5'6". I took a picture of his six-foot-two son.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  That's insane.
13. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Standing on-
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Standing on his back while he's doing a push-up in one year?
15. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  One year.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  That's craz- ... Imagine if you didn't see him for a year. "Hey, man, let's go have lunch. I haven't seen you in a long time."
17. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  (laughs)
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, "Where ... Who the fuck are you?"
19. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  (laughs)
20. JRJoe Rogan
  "Where's Arthur?"
21. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  And, and that's really ... Like, it was crazy because, again, anybody who got my program 11 years ago, I, personally ... There was no one else but me. I would send them a, an email saying, "Hey, man, I'm not trying to sell you anything. You already bought the program and I wanna say thank you, and I got a couple questions. If you would answer them, I'd appreciate it." His answers were, um, so good that I wrote him back. And I'd never written anybody, like, directly that I didn't know at this time. And I wrote him back and I said, "Sounds like you need some help, bro." I said, "What, what's your story?" CliffsNotes: disabled veteran, morbidly obese, relegated to thinking of himself as a piece of furniture. So I say, "Send me some pictures," so I can see what I was working with. And those are the pictures, those first two with the canes. And I was like, "Fuck, man. I don't know how I can help him." Because it ... Not so much the knee braces. Hell, I wore knee braces my whole career. I didn't realize it was strapped to a back brace. And his wife, 20 minutes every morning, gotta put on the sleeve, put on the brace 'cause he can't even bend over enough to do it. And so she puts them all together. 20 minutes later, he's going to the bathroom with his canes. So, I sent him this food plan, which is like my phase three eating plan, but it's for health. But I got it from a guy named Dr. Fred Bisci. And at the time, Fred was 78, could still run 20 miles on the beach, in the s- ... in the deep sand with my brother. Like, that's his mentor. He helped people with cancer and all sorts of shit. This guy's like ... He's just a different level of l- ... walking the talk.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  So you have a food plan as well-
23. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Everything.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  ... as an exercise plan.
25. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Everything.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  And what, what kind of food you got him eating?
27. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Um, well, thr- ... This is what I like to do. Let's go back to what God created, shit that's not genetically modified. All right? Shit that's not sprayed with chemicals. So let's call it organic. Um, or like your great-grandparents used to call it, fucking food.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
29. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Like, it's everything. Go to Italy, go to-
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
31:12 – 42:11
The DDPY app ecosystem: rebuild programs, heart-rate zones, and gamification
1. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  On the app, which right now, on my-
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, you have an app?
3. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Oh, dude, I've got ... I, I think I have the most extensive app on the planet. And-... it, like... Let's, let's, let's go to the workouts and I'll come back to the food.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Android and iPhone?
5. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Everything.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  All right.
7. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Yes. And, and right now you can get it on for-
8. JRJoe Rogan
  What about Windows Phone?
9. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  I think it works on everything. (laughs)
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Nobody has one of those fucking things. (laughs)
11. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Whatever it is, we've set it up for everything that you can use and for your iPad, your computer. And I didn't realize at the time that I set it up for the iPhone, the Droid, the iPad, the tablet, and the computer. Like, going back in time, I just would've done the phone because... And, and the computer because you can have your phone go right to the TV.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
13. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  You know, if you got out-
14. JRJoe Rogan
  To the... Yeah.
15. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  ... the TV, you go (swooshing sound) ...
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
17. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  But I s- it cost me a lot more money to do it with all five units. The bottom line is, I created this thing, like, from Arthur's stuff. I call it DDPY Rebuilt. You can't get out of bed? You can't do the workout? Bullshit. I got three workouts in bed-
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
19. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  ... that have nothing to do with fucking. It's just freaking working out for 10 minutes, 12 minutes will get you up and I call those Bed Flex. Then I put you in Chair Force, where you're sitting in a chair. I got eight workouts in a fucking chair, which gets you strong enough to hold the chair. So I call those Stand Strong, like Arthur was doing, help you get up, help you get down, help you balance, help to keep you from falling. Then you're ready for Beginner. And once you get the... all the modifications that I teach you with Stand Strong... I got a guy who's 84 years old, his name is Ted Evans. He's been working with me since he was 68. The motherfucker can do every workout I do.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Wow.
21. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Every workout. Now, is he modified at times? Yes. But he can do every fucking workout I do. And it goes all the way to extreme psycho shit. Like, I did a workout today where I took my foot and held out in front of me and held it for 30 seconds, then pulled it out, held it for 30 seconds. This is all core stuff. It's gotta be the stuff, um... God, what's the name of it? It skips my mind right now. The fighter, the f- uh, UFC fighter, uh, the f- the French kid who was amazing.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  George St-Pierre?
23. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Yes. I mean, nobody could ever take him down. You know, they hook his leg in, boom, and (laughs) you're not taking him down. He gonna hop around because his core strength, he had to be doing some of this type of stuff.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Does a lot of gymnastics.
25. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Well, again, those guys are super freaks. And he-
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
27. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  And, you know, as wrestlers or UFC guys, I mean, they're... That's a whole different level. And Georges St-Pierre, I remember walking in, nobody's taking him down. I don't care how they hook his leg. So he really gets all of that inner strength. And that's really what I'm doing at a level that you can start in bed.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
29. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  So there's no more fucking excuses.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  No more fucking excuses. And that's so damn important.
42:11 – 1:10:50
Recovery tech and longevity tools: cryo, decompression, float tanks, hyperbaric
1. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
2. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  I have... I just bought a crib that literally one of my buddies, Titus, who's from the WWE, is coming in on Tuesday to train with me. I got a hyperbaric chamber now.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Whoa.
4. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Yes, 12 PSI.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Holy shit.
6. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  I got a cryo system-
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Damn.
8. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  ... in my house.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Damn.
10. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  (laughs) I'm just-
11. JRJoe Rogan
  What about float tanks?
12. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  I don't have that yet.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  You ever fuck with one?
14. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  You know, I haven't 'cause I'm kinda gonna be s-
15. JRJoe Rogan
  I got one right here, buddy.
16. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  I'm gonna, I'm re- I'm kinda scared of that-
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Don't be scared.
18. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  ... because it's, it's fre- (laughs)
19. JRJoe Rogan
  Fucking Simon Dallas Page, what are you talking about?
20. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  I'm just being honest.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  You can't be scared.
22. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  I'm just being honest.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  How are you scared? You, you've, you sound like-
24. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Because-
25. JRJoe Rogan
  ... the people you're screaming against.
26. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  No, I do, but I'm being honest, bro. When I first got in the chamber-
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Can I get you in one? Can I get you in one today?
28. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  You know what?
29. JRJoe Rogan
  All I need is an hour.
30. DPDiamond Dallas Page
  Yes.

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Mindset, resilience, and making yoga “for guys”

Late-bloomer wrestling career and the back injury that changed everything

From power yoga to a new system: rehab + calisthenics + dynamic resistance

Branding it DDPY: tone, attitude, and making fitness fun

The wrestling business today: indies, TV money, and life on the road

Helping wrestlers extend careers: NXT, Jericho, and daily ‘oil for the tin man’

Book reveal and the mission: ‘Positively Unstoppable’ and owning your inner voice

The Arthur Boorman transformation: ‘Never Give Up’ and rebuilding from disability

Diet, inflammation, and ‘real food’: gluten/dairy reduction and sustainable swaps

The DDPY app ecosystem: rebuild programs, heart-rate zones, and gamification

Recovery tech and longevity tools: cryo, decompression, float tanks, hyperbaric

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