Joe Rogan Experience #1166 - Diamond Dallas Page

Joe Rogan 0:02 Four, three, two, one. (clapperboard snaps) Mr. Page-

Diamond Dallas Page 0:09 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:09 ... how are you?

Diamond Dallas Page 0:11 I never had a bad day in my life.

Joe Rogan 0:13 Ever?

Diamond Dallas Page 0:13 Oh, I've had plenty of bad moments. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:15 Bad moments, but you recovered.

Diamond Dallas Page 0:17 Yeah. You know, um, to me, it's all your state of mind, period. And I don't stay there. If I go down, I get back up.

Joe Rogan 0:25 If you're gonna chew that-

Diamond Dallas Page 0:26 Don't do it.

Joe Rogan 0:26 ... people are gonna go fucking crazy.

Diamond Dallas Page 0:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:29 (laughs) I put one of those in my mouth the other day-

Diamond Dallas Page 0:31 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:31 ... and I got like 150 comments 'cause I had a sore throat.

Diamond Dallas Page 0:35 Oh.

Joe Rogan 0:35 Sorry. (laughs)

Diamond Dallas Page 0:35 Well, I got, I got the throat coat, so. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:38 Throat coat. Yeah. Um, listen, man, first of all, I love what you're doing.

Diamond Dallas Page 0:42 Thank you.

Joe Rogan 0:42 I really do. I think it's fantastic, and I'm a, a big fan of yoga. And what you've done for not just... What you've done is made yoga available to people that thought that yoga was for chicks.

Diamond Dallas Page 0:55 Right. And, and, and I, I've, I, you know, now, it's really funny you say that because how it started, it was yoga for regular, it was regular people, you know, regular guys.

Joe Rogan 1:04 Yeah, w-

Diamond Dallas Page 1:04 I made it for guys.

Joe Rogan 1:05 People think of yoga as being something that, like, you have to be into, you know, you gotta be all namaste-

Diamond Dallas Page 1:11 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:11 ... and sp- And you hear Dallas Diamond Page. What the fuck? Huh? How-

Diamond Dallas Page 1:14 (laughs) Or Diamond Dallas Page.

Joe Rogan 1:15 Either one.

Diamond Dallas Page 1:16 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:16 But you-

Diamond Dallas Page 1:17 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:17 How... You know, you're this giant pro wrestler guy, like, you're into yoga? And you're really, really into it. I mean, you've got your own system of yoga. I mean, this is, for, for something that I think is, like, very important for body maintenance and for keeping your, your spine healthy and mobility, which is one of the things that a lot of us ignore-

Diamond Dallas Page 1:37 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:37 ... especially big guys who like to lift weights and-

Diamond Dallas Page 1:40 Sure.

Joe Rogan 1:41 ... do a lot of crazy shit.

Diamond Dallas Page 1:42 I was a meathead. You gotta understand, Joe-

Joe Rogan 1:43 Yeah.

Diamond Dallas Page 1:43 ... I'm, I'm the guy who wouldn't be caught dead doing yoga the first 42 years of my life. But I didn't start wrestling until I was 35.

Joe Rogan 1:51 Really?

Diamond Dallas Page 1:52 Really. And my career didn't take off until I was 40.

Joe Rogan 1:54 How old are you now?

Diamond Dallas Page 1:56 62.

Joe Rogan 1:57 Dude, if you, if you folks saw what he just did with no warmup. No warmup, bent over, grabbed your ankles, fully, fully flattened your body out, pressed your body up against your thighs, with no warmup. Then he picks his knee, his ankle up and fully extends his leg over his head. I mean, that i- that is incredibly impressive for a 20-year-old person.

Diamond Dallas Page 2:17 Well, it's all about staying ahead of it. You know, it's all about owning it. Um, going back to, you know, the, just my, my career, I mean, my career took off in '96, which was, I was 40 years old. '97 and '98, man, I was on top of the world, wrestling 270 days a year, every year. And then I did The Tonight Show, Hollywood Squares, a movie called, uh, uh, First Daughter was my first movie I did. So, I mean, I was probably working 320 days a year. And the wear and tear on your body after a while, like, boom, I took a power slam from, or a power bomb from Kevin Nash. Kevin's legit 6'10", long way down. And it wasn't that bump that blew my back out. It was all of it, and being almost 43 years old. And when I ruptured my L4 and L5, and we have this amazing vertebrae, that is what allows us to do all this crazy shit that we do. What really allows us is those shock absorbers, absorbers, those discs in between the vertebrae. Well, think of a jelly donut and (claps) slap that jelly donut, and now there's nothing there. So I have no discs in between my L4 or L5. I was told by three different spine specialists, "You're never gonna wrestle again." I just signed a multimillion dollar three-year deal. So the guy who wouldn't be caught dead doing yoga would do anything to get back in a ring. And I was married at the time, and, uh, she kind of bullied me into it. And once I started doing it, Joe, just like you know, I started to feel a difference. And I thought, I'm thinking, "Wow."

Joe Rogan 3:56 Now did you talk to any doctors that wanted to replace your discs or fuse your discs?

Diamond Dallas Page 4:00 (clears throat) Two wanted to fuse them, one didn't. And his thing was-

Joe Rogan 4:04 What year was this?

Diamond Dallas Page 4:05 Uh, 1999, so right at the beginning.

Joe Rogan 4:07 So there wasn't any of those spacers that they have now.

Diamond Dallas Page 4:09 No, they didn't have any of that.

Joe Rogan 4:10 Any of the titanium discs?

Diamond Dallas Page 4:11 Didn't have any of that. And his whole thing was, "If we do fuse you and you go back, you will be crippled, because you won't recover from that." So again, going to do yoga, and I started doing Brian Kest. Have you ever taken one of my Brian Kest classes here in LA?

Joe Rogan 4:28 No.

Diamond Dallas Page 4:28 He's amazing. He went with-

Joe Rogan 4:29 What kind of yoga is that?

Diamond Dallas Page 4:30 Power yoga. He's the guy who kind of put power yoga on the map. And he made me feel like, "Okay, that dude's cool." Like, and then today he's a buddy of mine, (laughs) you know. Uh, but at the time, I was just doing his VHS tapes. But for what I wanted, it wasn't giving me everything. So what I did, now I've already had both shoulder surgeries, both knee surgeries, and I'm kind of like God-given gift of figuring out how to heal myself. I'm the first guy in professional wrestling to ever ice his body by almost a decade, eight years before they would start doing that.

Joe Rogan 5:08 You mean like ice baths? Like getting in a tub-

Diamond Dallas Page 5:09 Like, like ice your, ice your shoulders, ice your knees-

Joe Rogan 5:11 Ice everything.

Diamond Dallas Page 5:11 ... ice your back. Inflammation, take it down.

Joe Rogan 5:14 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 5:15 I, I just got that.

Joe Rogan 5:16 How'd you figure that out?

Diamond Dallas Page 5:17 Um, you know, just different reading on different, you know, people and how they healed themselves-

Joe Rogan 5:22 Mm-hmm.

Diamond Dallas Page 5:22 ... and what people were saying. And what I've found that a lot of people don't want to put the extra work in. And I can... They can be the hardest workers ever, but they won't go that extra mile just to go get a bag of ice-

Joe Rogan 5:33 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 5:33 ... fill it up, put it on your knees, put an ACE bandage around it, you can go wherever you want.

Joe Rogan 5:37 Well, but it's also like part of the culture of tough guys, right?

Diamond Dallas Page 5:40 Right.

Joe Rogan 5:40 Like, they don't give a fuck.

Diamond Dallas Page 5:41 Right.

Joe Rogan 5:41 Let's just go get a beer and have some food.

Diamond Dallas Page 5:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:43 You know, right? There's, there's-

Diamond Dallas Page 5:44 Steve Austin. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:45 There's a little bit of that, right? There's something about the same type of guy that's so tough they could work 300 days a year-

Diamond Dallas Page 5:52 Right.

Joe Rogan 5:52 ... is also the same type of guy that's gonna go, "Ah, I'll fucking just deal with it."

Diamond Dallas Page 5:56 Ex- You know, and Steve, me and Austin, when I broke in, I was like 35 and a half, he's 26. And Austin was always way ahead of the curve as far as talent. But he wouldn't, you know, he wouldn't, he was like, "What are you doing, kid? Why you got those ice bags?" So back then we were drinking in beers, not that it's right to do, but back then we were. And he would put the beers (laughs) on my ice bags in between my, uh, my ACE bandages to keep his beers cold. Uh... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:24 (laughs)

Diamond Dallas Page 6:24 True story. True story. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:26 (laughs)

Diamond Dallas Page 6:26 So, you know, the bottom line is, I started to mix the rehabilitation techniques with the yoga positions. Then I threw in old school calisthenics, like push-ups, squats, crunches. And I did them with a slow burn movement because I had to. And in the beginning, I had to do them on my knees. So-

Joe Rogan 6:43 When you say slow burn movement, this is what you were just showing me-

Diamond Dallas Page 6:46 That's ... Yes.

Joe Rogan 6:46 ... before we started the podcast.

Diamond Dallas Page 6:47 Yeah, time and attention.

Joe Rogan 6:48 Where you're into a lot of dynamic tension exercises-

Diamond Dallas Page 6:50 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 6:51 ... which is a lot of what Bruce Lee was into.

Diamond Dallas Page 6:53 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 6:53 He was into a lot of that stuff.

Diamond Dallas Page 6:54 Go look at Bruce Lee. Did he ever have an ounce of fat on him? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:58 I don't know what he ate, but-

Diamond Dallas Page 6:59 You know what I mean. You know what I mean.

Joe Rogan 7:01 Okay.

Diamond Dallas Page 7:01 The guy was shredded, but-

Joe Rogan 7:02 Yeah.

Diamond Dallas Page 7:03 That whole time under tension thing, something I call dynamic resistance. I added that and like for the push-ups, yo, I would lower for three, hold three inches off the ground for three, Chaturanga.

Joe Rogan 7:15 Mm-hmm.

Diamond Dallas Page 7:15 Come up for three, lower for three, hold for three, then I'd go into cobra and a down dog. And in the beginning, I had to do them on my knees, but then I built that strength to get off my knees. And then three-second push-ups became five, five became 10, 10 became sets of 10. If you go to my DDP Yoga Facebook, you'll see a video up there of me doing on my 62nd birthday... Well, actually two days after. 10 ten-second push-ups at 62. So my

Diamond Dallas Page 7:46 core strength is at a different level. I don't lift weights anymore. I haven't really for 10 years because I really don't need it and I don't need to size. I like being like 230. The bottom line is what today is called, I'm branding it DDPY. Why? Because I want people to stop calling it just yoga because it's so different. Now, you've done a lot of yoga.

Joe Rogan 8:06 Yeah.

Diamond Dallas Page 8:07 What you j- I just took you through in that minute and a half, is that like anything you've ever done in a yoga studio?

Joe Rogan 8:13 No, it's very different. You're, uh, y- what you're saying, your dynamic tension thing-

Diamond Dallas Page 8:17 Right.

Joe Rogan 8:17 ... definitely adds another element to it.

Diamond Dallas Page 8:19 And then I have fun with it, man. I got ... (laughs) I do, I do shit like, when you take your, into a s- uh, a lunge and you throw your arms up, I go, "Superstar."

Joe Rogan 8:27 (laughs)

Diamond Dallas Page 8:28 You know? (laughs) You know, I got ... And when we're, when we're in a, like a lunge that we're folding forward and we're going to explode into touchdown-

Joe Rogan 8:35 Mm-hmm.

Diamond Dallas Page 8:36 ... I'd say, "Throw a little Ric Flair on the end of that." And as everybody explodes, "Woo!"

Joe Rogan 8:41 (laughs)

Diamond Dallas Page 8:41 You know, just having people having fun. I, I did, um, a big event. It was this weekend. It was called All In, and it's, uh, um, Cody Rhodes, who's the, uh, the American Dream Dusty Rhodes' son. He's been in independent wrestling. He was at the show, WWE for 10 years. And bottom line is, he went away, he left there, left guaranteed money, got to be like a half a million bucks. Left it and went to follow the dream because he knew he was a main event guy. And him and these kids, the Young Bucks, they sold out this arena, it was 10,426 people, in 29 minutes and 36 seconds.

Joe Rogan 9:19 They counted? They counted the seconds?

Diamond Dallas Page 9:21 Well, they did, because it's a really big deal when you freaking sell out.

Joe Rogan 9:24 (laughs)

Diamond Dallas Page 9:24 When you're an independent group-

Joe Rogan 9:25 Yeah.

Diamond Dallas Page 9:25 ... you're not the WWE.

Joe Rogan 9:27 No, that's insane.

Diamond Dallas Page 9:28 It's insane.

Joe Rogan 9:28 How many different groups are there now? There's NWA.

Diamond Dallas Page 9:31 Well-

Joe Rogan 9:31 There's WWE.

Diamond Dallas Page 9:32 Right. Um, there's ROH. Um, there's The Row, as my buddy Booker T calls it down there in Houston, uh-

Joe Rogan 9:39 And NWA is what Billy Corgan, uh, uh, Billy Corgan owns, right?

Diamond Dallas Page 9:42 Right.

Joe Rogan 9:42 Correct.

Diamond Dallas Page 9:42 And I'll tell you what, the sm- that's the, that's ... Cody was going for the NWA championship against Nick, who's just one of the st- stu- studs of our business. And, um, he, uh, they had a hell of a match and, uh, Billy owns that title. Now, think about this. Vince McMahon just, just ... I want to say he was paid 1.2 billion by Fox for the programming, for a live show on Friday nights. I'm not sure what the deal is at six years or eight years, but 1.2 billion. And then I heard there's another multi-billion dollar contract being out there, Comcast or something. So that's like NFL stuff. So when that kind of attention comes to wrestling, more people are going to be like, "Oh, I want to get involved in that." And plus Vince really has taken it mainstream at a different level. Like back when we were killing it in the '90s, I mean, we had the highest rated show on cable television, whether it was WCW or WWF. Every week we were one, two and three, sometimes one, two, three and four top four shows. But our dollars that we could get for the advertising was nothing like they're getting today because they made it kids friendly.

Joe Rogan 10:58 Mm-hmm.

Diamond Dallas Page 10:58 They changed that and it was brilliant by Vince, you know, uh, it really, it changed format, but today it's about to go through another boom. And this whole independent thing that Cody and these Young Bucks who are great kids, uh, did, uh, it really lit up that world. And it's the same thing all over the country. I mean, I should say world. Japan's really big right now and so is, uh, so is, um, um, UK and Mexico. They're really, really big.

Joe Rogan 11:24 One of the guys from the UFC, Matthew Riddle, just got signed to the WWE. He was, uh-

Diamond Dallas Page 11:29 I heard that.

Joe Rogan 11:29 Yeah, his story is kind of, it's kind of fucked up. He got fired from the UFC for failing a pot test. And the crazy thing-

Diamond Dallas Page 11:38 I heard that.

Joe Rogan 11:38 It's so crazy. Let the guy smoke pot.

Diamond Dallas Page 11:41 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:41 Jesus Christ.

Diamond Dallas Page 11:42 Uncle.

Joe Rogan 11:42 But it's even more crazy that, you know, now it's legal.

Diamond Dallas Page 11:46 Right.

Joe Rogan 11:46 Now pot's legal, and now the num- the level that you can get tested for is so much lower than anything that he got. But I think he enjoys it. I don't, I don't think he's missing fighting. You know, fighting is, uh, uh, uh, I know that pro wrestling is probably harder on your body doing those 300-

Diamond Dallas Page 12:03 Right.

Joe Rogan 12:03 ... days a year.

Diamond Dallas Page 12:04 Right.

Joe Rogan 12:04 I mean, I don't think there's anything like it in all of entertainment. I really don't.

Diamond Dallas Page 12:07 Yes.

Joe Rogan 12:07 I mean, it's, it's crazy to think that you're getting body slammed and thrown into the ropes and forearm slammed and all that shit's going on 300 days a year. It's really, uh, it really, it's not fair.

Diamond Dallas Page 12:20 No. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:20 There really should be a way where you could take some time off. It doesn't make any sense.

Diamond Dallas Page 12:24 When I was on Hollywood Squares one time, someone said, "So when's your season? When are you off?"

Joe Rogan 12:28 Sure.

Diamond Dallas Page 12:28 They knew nothing about wrestling. I said-

Joe Rogan 12:30 That's hilarious.

Diamond Dallas Page 12:30 "When I'm hurt."

Joe Rogan 12:31 Yeah.

Diamond Dallas Page 12:31 (laughs) You know, but, you know, the bottom line is-

Joe Rogan 12:34 And not hurt. Inj-

Diamond Dallas Page 12:36 No, injured.

Joe Rogan 12:37 Injured.

Diamond Dallas Page 12:37 No, injured.

Joe Rogan 12:37 Injured.

Diamond Dallas Page 12:37 Like out, like torn ligaments.

Joe Rogan 12:38 Like blown ligaments, like yeah.

Diamond Dallas Page 12:40 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 12:40 Yeah. You guys compete. Well, you know, you perform hurt on a regular basis.

Diamond Dallas Page 12:44 All the time, all-I mean, and so do the guys in the NFL. So-

Joe Rogan 12:47 Well, so do the guys in the UFC as well. I mean-

Diamond Dallas Page 12:48 Yeah, absolutely.

Joe Rogan 12:49 ... I think with Matt Riddle, it's like, he's got a great personality and, you know, and doesn't have to cut weight anymore, and now he's gigantic, and he's a fun guy. I think WWE is perfect for someone like him.

Diamond Dallas Page 13:00 I was down there. I train a lot of the guys down at n- it's called NXT, next, and that's, uh, these kids are unbelievable. They're so talented. But I bring my DDPY program down to them, and they're all on my ass.

Joe Rogan 13:12 So you're starting that early with these guys.

Diamond Dallas Page 13:14 So they... And plus, I'm like, you know, again, I'm 62, they're 24-

Joe Rogan 13:18 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 13:19 ... 22, 28. You know, so they grew up watching me, so it's much easier for ge- for me to get them to pay attention by-

Joe Rogan 13:27 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 13:27 ... all they have to do is look at Chris Jericho, who's one of the top stars in the world, and he is not with WWE right now. He, you know, he comes and goes. And he, he was at that show All In, he did a run in, a surprise thing, it blew the roof off. He's gonna be 48 in November. He wrestles like he's 28. He's been doing my program since he did the same thing I did when he blew his back out and three doctors said he was not gonna wrestle anymore. Five weeks later, 85% pain free, three months later he headlined WrestleMania against Punk. He talks about it all the time.

Joe Rogan 14:00 Now, how is your back today? Those, those same disks?

Diamond Dallas Page 14:03 If I don't do it, it's kinda like brushing your teeth, you know, like you gotta brush your teeth. And I don't have to do it every single day, but I-

Joe Rogan 14:10 Pretty close?

Diamond Dallas Page 14:10 Pretty much. You know, and I, when I wake up, I, my first 10 minutes, I call it wake up. Man, I feel, I call it oil for the tin man and woman.

Joe Rogan 14:19 Mm-hmm.

Diamond Dallas Page 14:20 And the real proof of this for me, 'cause I'm the first transformation. The bottom line is, they said my career was over when I was 42. I started doing what now is called DDPY. Three months, less than three months later, Joey, I was back in the ring. At 42, they said my career was over, at 43 I'm the world champ. And that's like getting our... That's our Oscar. You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 14:43 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 14:43 It's like you're the guy, you deserve this. When I-

Joe Rogan 14:46 You have the most eyes on you.

Diamond Dallas Page 14:47 You know, I was at, I was in a match with Hogan, Flair, and Sting. Three arguably maybe, you know, in the top five biggest names ever, and I walk out there world champion, Ric Flair took the diamond cutter in the middle. It was-

Joe Rogan 15:01 (laughs)

Diamond Dallas Page 15:01 Hogan took... Hogan gave me such a hug afterwards, like, "This is what this business is supposed to be. That someone like you, who no one would believe would ever be anyone, could work so hard that they would become the world champ." When I got my Hall of Fame ring, uh, in 2017, inside it had inscribed in here, "Work ethic equals dreams!" DDP. And that's what it is.

Joe Rogan 15:27 (laughs)

Diamond Dallas Page 15:27 You know, I don't tell you anything. You understand putting the work in.

Joe Rogan 15:30 Yeah. Putting the work in is everything. Now, you're back today. Did you ever get an MRI on it?

Diamond Dallas Page 15:35 Oh yeah, I did all that.

Joe Rogan 15:36 Well, but now?

Diamond Dallas Page 15:37 Now, you know, I don't have any... I don't... I c- if I don't do it, if I'm on too many planes, trains, and automobiles-

Joe Rogan 15:43 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 15:44 ... you know, then I'm gonna get release, but I know what to do. Like, I'd say to my wife, and I swear to God, 'cause every morning I do, I roll out of bed some nights and you feel like you got hit by a truck.

Joe Rogan 15:53 Mm-hmm.

Diamond Dallas Page 15:53 You know what I mean? Sleeping is the worst thing for me because I get in those positions that, I don't know man.

Joe Rogan 15:58 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 15:58 And when I wake up, I'm like, "Oh, god."

Joe Rogan 16:00 Yeah, you're knotted up.

Diamond Dallas Page 16:01 But as soon as I do, within eight minutes, I feel like a completely different person 'cause I know what to do.

Joe Rogan 16:07 But your, so your disk, though, was completely gone?

Diamond Dallas Page 16:09 No, they're gone. It was literally bone on bone.

Joe Rogan 16:12 And is it still like that?

Diamond Dallas Page 16:13 Yeah, but I've, I, this is something I'm trying to tell you, Joe, which makes what I'm doing different than regular yoga. Not just the... I always say most yogis are very namaste. DDPY way more T&A.

Joe Rogan 16:25 (laughs)

Diamond Dallas Page 16:25 And I meant T&A in the beginning.

Joe Rogan 16:27 (laughs)

Diamond Dallas Page 16:27 But what I mean today is tone and attitude, because it is an attitude, it's a tone-

Joe Rogan 16:31 Mm-hmm. You switched it up. You kept the same letters.

Diamond Dallas Page 16:33 Heck yes!

Joe Rogan 16:33 I like how you did that. (laughs)

Diamond Dallas Page 16:33 It worked. It, it worked like that. But, uh, you know, it's just a, it, it... For me, it's... As you know this, repetition is the mother of learning.

Joe Rogan 16:43 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 16:43 The more you do something, the more you own it. And on that cl- I wanna, I wanna show you something I brought with me, 'cause I've been waiting for your show to release this.

Joe Rogan 16:51 Oh.

Diamond Dallas Page 16:52 I've got a new book coming out.

Joe Rogan 16:53 Ooh.

Diamond Dallas Page 16:53 And no one's seen this cover yet.

Joe Rogan 16:55 Ooh.

Diamond Dallas Page 16:56 And it is called-

Joe Rogan 16:56 It's a premiere.

Diamond Dallas Page 16:57 Yeah, it's premiere, premiere. And I'm doing something... I don't think anybody have ev- has ever really done this. Now, this isn't the book itself, this is just the cover.

Joe Rogan 17:05 Look at this. It's plastic and everything.

Diamond Dallas Page 17:06 So it's, it's plastic.

Joe Rogan 17:07 Damn.

Diamond Dallas Page 17:07 It's called Positively Unstoppable: The Art of Owning It.

Joe Rogan 17:14 Ooh. I like it.

Diamond Dallas Page 17:15 What is it? It's whatever the fuck you you want it to be.

Joe Rogan 17:18 Let me check that out. Diamond Dallas Page, bitches. Respect.

Diamond Dallas Page 17:23 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 17:23 Look at that. That's beautiful.

Diamond Dallas Page 17:25 Mick Foley wrote the c- the funniest, most entertaining forward thinking ever.

Joe Rogan 17:28 I wanna get that guy on. That guy's-

Diamond Dallas Page 17:31 I, I get that happening hard for me.

Joe Rogan 17:32 ... hilarious. He's friends with my friend Tony Hinchcliffe, who's a, a giant pro wrestling fan, and it's given me so much grief 'cause Tony's such a fan. I've made fun of wrestling 'cause Tony's a fan. Then people get mad at me.

Diamond Dallas Page 17:42 (laughs) Right, right.

Joe Rogan 17:42 So Tony is such a dork for it. They do this, uh, podcast at The Comedy Store-

Diamond Dallas Page 17:47 Right, yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:47 ... where they do... What do they call it? The four...

Young Jamie Vernon 17:50 Four Storm Ent...

Diamond Dallas Page 17:51 No. How... What is it?

Young Jamie Vernon 17:52 Sorry.

Diamond Dallas Page 17:53 Not The Four Horsemen.

Joe Rogan 17:54 No. No, no, no. They have a, a wrestling podcast that I was just on two weeks ago.

Young Jamie Vernon 18:02 Store... Oh.

Joe Rogan 18:02 Store Horsemen.

Diamond Dallas Page 18:03 Store Horsemen, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:04 The Store Horsemen. So, so these comics from the, the, uh, Comedy Store-

Diamond Dallas Page 18:07 Right, right.

Joe Rogan 18:07 ... are gigantic pro wrestling fans.

Diamond Dallas Page 18:09 Right, right. I wanna do that show.

Joe Rogan 18:10 And what they do-

Diamond Dallas Page 18:10 Tell 'em, yo. Have me go on it, yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:11 All right, all right. I'll set it up, I'll set it up.

Diamond Dallas Page 18:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:13 And they do, like, simulcasts, like so while, like, if WrestleMania is going on-

Diamond Dallas Page 18:17 Oh, right, yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:18 ... they'll do, uh, like, they'll do a view-... Like, uh, we, we do a thing for the UFC sometimes called a Fight Companion.

Diamond Dallas Page 18:23 Sure.

Joe Rogan 18:23 While the fights are going on, we'll, we'll get a bunch of guys in here, drink beers-

Diamond Dallas Page 18:26 Right, right.

Joe Rogan 18:27 ... and talk shit.

Diamond Dallas Page 18:27 Beautiful. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:27 They do that.

Diamond Dallas Page 18:28 I love that shit.

Young Jamie Vernon 18:29 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:29 They do that while WrestleMania is going on.

Diamond Dallas Page 18:31 Right, right.

Joe Rogan 18:32 So it's, uh...

Diamond Dallas Page 18:33 You know, on that note, Jake The Snake Roberts is gonna... He just... He's working a deal right now with Hooters and, in, in Vegas, and they're talking about giving him a room, and he will do, like, might be Monday Night Raw.

Joe Rogan 18:46 Somebody contacted me about him as well.

Diamond Dallas Page 18:48 Oh, someone from his-

Joe Rogan 18:49 Someone from his organization contacted me. And you helped him.

Diamond Dallas Page 18:51 Yes. Yeah. There's a-

Joe Rogan 18:52 And I, I saw, uh, some, some sort of a program on television where it was detailing you helping him get clean-

Diamond Dallas Page 18:58 Right.

Joe Rogan 18:58 ... and you getting him involved in yoga. What you're doing is really fucking awesome-

Diamond Dallas Page 19:02 Thank you.

Joe Rogan 19:02 ... because you're, you're exposing something that I think should be-It just, just should be something that everybody does. I just really think that, uh, all athletes, all people, I think yoga is a life staple, I really do.

Diamond Dallas Page 19:16 No, I know, dude. I mean, when I got through this, when I got through with wrestling, I could have easily stepped into that yoga community and went the whole namaste route. But that's not who I am.

Joe Rogan 19:29 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 19:29 And I know that the yoga people, like they get it. They don't need me. The people who need me is all those people that literally (laughs) have, that have nobody.

Joe Rogan 19:41 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 19:41 And they don't have any direction. Did you see the disabled veteran that I helped?

Joe Rogan 19:45 No, I did not.

Diamond Dallas Page 19:45 All right. I gotta show you. The first time-

Joe Rogan 19:46 I'm just amazed that you could do what you do with no disks.

Diamond Dallas Page 19:50 (laughs) Me too. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:51 I don't, I don't understand that because everybody-

Diamond Dallas Page 19:53 Me too.

Joe Rogan 19:53 ... that I know that has had no disks has had like serious muscle atrophy and ...

Diamond Dallas Page 19:57 Well, because they didn't, 'cause they didn't figure it out. Like I had to figure it out.

Joe Rogan 20:00 And what did you figure out though? What, what did you do differently? I love that shirt, by the way.

Diamond Dallas Page 20:04 Oh, this is-

Joe Rogan 20:04 Ego kills talent.

Diamond Dallas Page 20:05 Yeah, right?

Joe Rogan 20:06 What a fucking great shirt.

Diamond Dallas Page 20:07 Where'd you-

Joe Rogan 20:07 Where'd you get that?

Diamond Dallas Page 20:08 That's my buddy, Josh, who brought me in, he's got a line called Beverly Kills. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 20:15 Wow. That's a great shirt. That's such a-

Diamond Dallas Page 20:16 He-

Joe Rogan 20:16 That's such a good point.

Diamond Dallas Page 20:18 Does it really like-

Joe Rogan 20:18 Yeah.

Diamond Dallas Page 20:19 ... make the point? I mean-

Joe Rogan 20:20 Yeah.

Diamond Dallas Page 20:20 That's why I wore it because I knew you would love it and I love the shirt. I wear it all the time. (laughs) He's got a couple of them that are really cool.

Joe Rogan 20:27 It's a great shirt.

Diamond Dallas Page 20:27 Cool things.

Joe Rogan 20:27 Where can someone get that if they wanted to buy that?

Diamond Dallas Page 20:29 Uh, I think it's beverlykills.com. I'm pretty sure. So, this is Arthur Boerman. This is disabled veteran. And this is what DDP Yoga is, or DDPY. This-

Joe Rogan 20:39 Is there a ... Oh, Jesus. Is there a link for this where, where Jamie could get a hold of it?

Diamond Dallas Page 20:43 Oh, absolutely.

Joe Rogan 20:43 And he can put it on the YouTube?

Diamond Dallas Page 20:44 Absolutely. I- If you go to ddpyoga.com-

Joe Rogan 20:47 He's in there?

Diamond Dallas Page 20:48 And yeah, at the bottom of ddpyoga.com is the video of Arthur. So, let me show you this now.

Joe Rogan 20:54 Ja- show Jamie the, the image of him-

Diamond Dallas Page 20:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:55 ... so he can look for it on your website.

Diamond Dallas Page 20:57 Yeah. Yeah, if you'll go all the way to the bottom on ddpyoga.com, it'll be sitting at the bottom.

Joe Rogan 21:01 And, uh, what was wrong with Arthur?

Diamond Dallas Page 21:03 Okay. Uh, let me, let me just tell you the back story.

Joe Rogan 21:05 Okay.

Diamond Dallas Page 21:05 This is crazy. Anyone who got my program 11 years ago, it was just workouts, period. And it was three different levels. And this fis- uh, first one was called 50 Plus. It's kind of like what I'm doing today with, um, where I'm helping people who are really disabled. And-

Joe Rogan 21:21 So here he is.

Diamond Dallas Page 21:21 ... okay, there he is right there. You wanna watch it?

Joe Rogan 21:23 Sure. I-

Diamond Dallas Page 21:23 Hey, let's watch it.

Joe Rogan 21:24 Okay. Can we play this on YouTube?

Diamond Dallas Page 21:26 Yeah. Start, start it from the beginning.

Joe Rogan 21:27 All right. I'll play this. Start from the beginning?

Diamond Dallas Page 21:28 Start from the beginning. This is awesome.

Joe Rogan 21:29 "Doctor told me I'd never walk unassisted again," it says. So, for the people just listening, it says, "For 15 years doctors told me I would never walk unassisted again." And we're, we're seeing this gentleman with, uh, those, uh, crutches, those cane things on his forearms. "I accepted this as fact. I was a 47-year-old disabled veteran and I had basically given up. I was injured as a paratrooper in the Gulf War. Too many jumps, took its toll on m- on his back." Oh, man. Watch how he's land. "And, and my knees," it says. "I gained weight." W- we'll just watch an image of it. All this stuff is available online at ddpyoga.com, right? Is that what it is?

Diamond Dallas Page 22:23 Yeah, this, this video, yes. This has got mazillions and bazillions of views.

Joe Rogan 22:27 That's a good number, mazillions.

Diamond Dallas Page 22:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 22:30 It says he "couldn't walk or run. Exercise seemed impossible. Most yoga instructors turned me away." This music's killing me.

Diamond Dallas Page 22:40 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 22:40 "All but one. All but one, motherfucker." It says, he "didn't know me, but he believed in me when no one else did." How long is this video? I feel like we might have to-

Diamond Dallas Page 23:03 Four minutes.

Joe Rogan 23:04 (laughs)

Diamond Dallas Page 23:04 But dude, trust me, the payoff is worth it, brother.

Joe Rogan 23:06 Look at this. Oh, look at him doing it here. We're watching him-

Diamond Dallas Page 23:09 See, I was using a chair.

Joe Rogan 23:10 Yeah.

Diamond Dallas Page 23:10 That's what-

Joe Rogan 23:11 To hold onto for balance.

Diamond Dallas Page 23:14 Well, to get up, get down.

Joe Rogan 23:17 Mm-hmm.

Diamond Dallas Page 23:17 Like-

Joe Rogan 23:17 It says, "I fell many times." Yeah. "But I got back up."

Diamond Dallas Page 23:23 It's all about getting back up, right?

Joe Rogan 23:25 This ... Yeah, this is very impressive, just watching him do what he's doing here. This guy's got heart. You know, it's ... The attitude to do something even though it's difficult and in pain is so damn important. It is so important. People have to force themselves to do something. And this guy is one of the best examples of that you're ever gonna see. I mean, he, he ... Who, who had a better excuse to give up than this guy? Wow, look at all this weight he's lost. This is crazy.

Diamond Dallas Page 23:58 He's a teacher in Baltimore.

Joe Rogan 24:02 He's lost a shitload of weight. It looks like he's lost like eight inches off of his belly, at least. He says, "I started to believe that it could happen." So, in this, uh, this progress thing, you're seeing him trying to walk without his canes and, and falling down.

Diamond Dallas Page 24:20 Flat on his face.

Joe Rogan 24:21 Yeah.

Diamond Dallas Page 24:25 Starting to build his core strength.

Joe Rogan 24:29 This is crazy. He's getting (laughs) ready to do handstands now. Oh my God.

Diamond Dallas Page 24:34 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:34 This guy crashes into a fucking-

Diamond Dallas Page 24:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:36 ... china cabinet. I love it. He's gonna kill the cat.

Diamond Dallas Page 24:39 He-

Joe Rogan 24:39 Get outta there, cat. (laughs)

Diamond Dallas Page 24:41 He, he just said, "Just 'cause I can't do it today doesn't mean I won't be able to do it someday."

Joe Rogan 24:45 Yeah, look at him here, man. Full push-ups. Wow, walking with one cane now. That's incredible. What a difference in his posture and everything. Look how much weight he's lost. And how often was he doing it? Every day?

Diamond Dallas Page 24:59 Every day. At ... Sometimes twice a day. So remember the pictures I showed you, right?

Joe Rogan 25:04 Yeah.

Diamond Dallas Page 25:05 Check this out. He couldn't stand on two legs.

Joe Rogan 25:07 Now he's standing on one and holding his foot up in the air. That is insane. Look how slim he got. Holy shit. He lost 100 pounds-

Diamond Dallas Page 25:14 In six months.

Joe Rogan 25:16 ... in six months. And he's holding that cat. That cat's gonna die. I told that cat, "Get outta there."

Diamond Dallas Page 25:19 (laughs) I'm watching this, brother.

Joe Rogan 25:20 But more important ... Holy shit! He's running. That is insane. He's not just walking, he's running.

Diamond Dallas Page 25:28 Sprinting.

Joe Rogan 25:29 Holy shit!

Diamond Dallas Page 25:31 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:31 That is incredible. That really is incredible. Wow! Look how fucking slim he is. That is really amazing.

Diamond Dallas Page 25:47 Number-

Joe Rogan 25:47 Now, what is the name of ... It says, "Never give up."

Diamond Dallas Page 25:49 Arthur-

Joe Rogan 25:49 What is the name of this video so people can find it?

Diamond Dallas Page 25:51 "Never Give Up." If you go to ddpoyoga.com, it's right at the bottom.

Joe Rogan 25:55 Whoa, look at him! Look at the difference in him. He looks like he's 10 years younger.

Diamond Dallas Page 26:00 Well, it's lo-

Joe Rogan 26:00 He's lost a 140 pounds in 10 months. Holy shit.

Diamond Dallas Page 26:04 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Joe Rogan 26:06 Whoa!

Diamond Dallas Page 26:07 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:09 That is crazy. Standing on his head, that is crazy.

Diamond Dallas Page 26:14 S-

Joe Rogan 26:14 That is crazy. That's-

Diamond Dallas Page 26:16 I mean-

Joe Rogan 26:16 ... so amazing, man.

Diamond Dallas Page 26:18 I'm gonna show you a picture that no one's seen this. I'm saving this for-

Joe Rogan 26:20 (exhales)

Diamond Dallas Page 26:20 ... a TED Talk that I'm gonna do. And I've never ... They asked me a couple times to do it, and I just wasn't ready, but now I am. I'm just wait- ... I've been waiting. Eventually, they're gonna get ahold of me again and I'm gonna do it. And I'm gonna base it around anything that's possible.

Joe Rogan 26:30 I'm crying, man.

Diamond Dallas Page 26:31 (laughs) That du- ... It choked you up, right?

Joe Rogan 26:33 It did.

Diamond Dallas Page 26:34 I told you there was a payoff. I mean, like, strong. And my, my, my business partner, Steve Yu, put that together. And I literally, um, did it with his son originally, and it was pretty good. But Steve just took it ... Like, he's the same guy who directed The Resurrection of Jake The Snake. So, let me finish with him. In six month- ... In, in 10 months, he lost th- 140 pounds. But fuck the weight, 'cause this is not about weight loss. It's just an awesome side effect. And think about that. With my shit, you could lose weight. But you know you can't out-train a bad diet.

Joe Rogan 27:07 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 27:07 So you gotta do everything. You gotta, more than anything, change your mindset, which is what Positively Unstoppable is all about. Changing your mindset, but owning that inner voice, the story you tell yourself.

Joe Rogan 27:19 Yes.

Diamond Dallas Page 27:19 So, Arthur lost 140 pounds. More importantly, he lost the knee braces, back brace, and canes. Not-

Joe Rogan 27:24 He's lost the knee bra- ... No more knee braces?

Diamond Dallas Page 27:25 No more knee braces.

Joe Rogan 27:27 How did he do that?

Diamond Dallas Page 27:27 Oh, let me finish. Let me finish 'cause I got-

Joe Rogan 27:29 No, please go ahead.

Diamond Dallas Page 27:29 ... a good, good, good yet ... Knee braces and canes, not just to walk, but run. But this is what the program is really about. At one year, he's 5'6". I took a picture of his six-foot-two son.

Joe Rogan 27:40 That's insane.

Diamond Dallas Page 27:42 Standing on-

Joe Rogan 27:42 Standing on his back while he's doing a push-up in one year?

Diamond Dallas Page 27:45 One year.

Joe Rogan 27:45 That's craz- ... Imagine if you didn't see him for a year. "Hey, man, let's go have lunch. I haven't seen you in a long time."

Diamond Dallas Page 27:50 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 27:50 Like, "Where ... Who the fuck are you?"

Diamond Dallas Page 27:51 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 27:52 "Where's Arthur?"

Diamond Dallas Page 27:54 And, and that's really ... Like, it was crazy because, again, anybody who got my program 11 years ago, I, personally ... There was no one else but me. I would send them a, an email saying, "Hey, man, I'm not trying to sell you anything. You already bought the program and I wanna say thank you, and I got a couple questions. If you would answer them, I'd appreciate it." His answers were, um, so good that I wrote him back. And I'd never written anybody, like, directly that I didn't know at this time. And I wrote him back and I said, "Sounds like you need some help, bro." I said, "What, what's your story?" CliffsNotes: disabled veteran, morbidly obese, relegated to thinking of himself as a piece of furniture. So I say, "Send me some pictures," so I can see what I was working with. And those are the pictures, those first two with the canes. And I was like, "Fuck, man. I don't know how I can help him." Because it ... Not so much the knee braces. Hell, I wore knee braces my whole career. I didn't realize it was strapped to a back brace. And his wife, 20 minutes every morning, gotta put on the sleeve, put on the brace 'cause he can't even bend over enough to do it. And so she puts them all together. 20 minutes later, he's going to the bathroom with his canes. So, I sent him this food plan, which is like my phase three eating plan, but it's for health. But I got it from a guy named Dr. Fred Bisci. And at the time, Fred was 78, could still run 20 miles on the beach, in the s- ... in the deep sand with my brother. Like, that's his mentor. He helped people with cancer and all sorts of shit. This guy's like ... He's just a different level of l- ... walking the talk.

Joe Rogan 29:25 So you have a food plan as well-

Diamond Dallas Page 29:27 Everything.

Joe Rogan 29:27 ... as an exercise plan.

Diamond Dallas Page 29:28 Everything.

Joe Rogan 29:28 And what, what kind of food you got him eating?

Diamond Dallas Page 29:31 Um, well, thr- ... This is what I like to do. Let's go back to what God created, shit that's not genetically modified. All right? Shit that's not sprayed with chemicals. So let's call it organic. Um, or like your great-grandparents used to call it, fucking food.

Joe Rogan 29:50 (laughs)

Diamond Dallas Page 29:50 Like, it's everything. Go to Italy, go to-

Joe Rogan 29:52 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 29:52 ... France.

Joe Rogan 29:53 Yeah.

Diamond Dallas Page 29:53 They don't have to say, "Can I have the organic vegetables?" They go-

Joe Rogan 29:55 No.

Diamond Dallas Page 29:56 ... "What?"

Joe Rogan 29:56 Yeah.

Diamond Dallas Page 29:56 Like, "Everything's fucking organic here, bozo."

Joe Rogan 29:58 Yeah.

Diamond Dallas Page 29:59 You know? Like, that's the way it's supposed to be. I mean, when you look at just the (laughs) the obesity, heart disease, cancer, diabetes, autism. Like, how is it through the roof? How are there 400-pound guys everywhere? 25 years ago, that didn't happen.

Joe Rogan 30:17 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 30:18 You know? And then they changed everything. And as far as I'm concerned, there's three reasons why it could've happened and 'cause I don't know. I'm not a scientist, I'm a fucking wrestler. But I know when I get people to eat what God created and stuff that's not genetically modified, I have found that they get out of pain. And that's what I did with Jake and Scott. You know, Razor Ramon also moved into my house. And, and when you get a chance to watch ... Before you have Jake come on, definitely watch The Resurrection of Jake The Snake 'cause I can set you up with that too. Um, but, uh, Jake, I got him eating real food, and Scott Hall, AKA Razor Ramon, eating real food. And within two weeks, they're already gonna start getting out of pain. That's why I'm ... I eat the way I eat because I don't wanna feel like I'm 82. I wanna feel like I'm 42 at 62.

Joe Rogan 31:06 Now, when you talk about your food plan, like, d- ... are you giving them specific portions and what to eat? Like, how, how do you set it up?

Diamond Dallas Page 31:12 On the app, which right now, on my-

Joe Rogan 31:14 Oh, you have an app?

Diamond Dallas Page 31:15 Oh, dude, I've got ... I, I think I have the most extensive app on the planet. And-... it, like... Let's, let's, let's go to the workouts and I'll come back to the food.

Joe Rogan 31:23 Android and iPhone?

Diamond Dallas Page 31:25 Everything.

Joe Rogan 31:25 All right.

Diamond Dallas Page 31:25 Yes. And, and right now you can get it on for-

Joe Rogan 31:27 What about Windows Phone?

Diamond Dallas Page 31:28 I think it works on everything. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 31:30 Nobody has one of those fucking things. (laughs)

Diamond Dallas Page 31:31 Whatever it is, we've set it up for everything that you can use and for your iPad, your computer. And I didn't realize at the time that I set it up for the iPhone, the Droid, the iPad, the tablet, and the computer. Like, going back in time, I just would've done the phone because... And, and the computer because you can have your phone go right to the TV.

Joe Rogan 31:51 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 31:51 You know, if you got out-

Joe Rogan 31:52 To the... Yeah.

Diamond Dallas Page 31:52 ... the TV, you go (swooshing sound) ...

Joe Rogan 31:53 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 31:53 But I s- it cost me a lot more money to do it with all five units. The bottom line is, I created this thing, like, from Arthur's stuff. I call it DDPY Rebuilt. You can't get out of bed? You can't do the workout? Bullshit. I got three workouts in bed-

Joe Rogan 32:09 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 32:09 ... that have nothing to do with fucking. It's just freaking working out for 10 minutes, 12 minutes will get you up and I call those Bed Flex. Then I put you in Chair Force, where you're sitting in a chair. I got eight workouts in a fucking chair, which gets you strong enough to hold the chair. So I call those Stand Strong, like Arthur was doing, help you get up, help you get down, help you balance, help to keep you from falling. Then you're ready for Beginner. And once you get the... all the modifications that I teach you with Stand Strong... I got a guy who's 84 years old, his name is Ted Evans. He's been working with me since he was 68. The motherfucker can do every workout I do.

Joe Rogan 32:47 Wow.

Diamond Dallas Page 32:48 Every workout. Now, is he modified at times? Yes. But he can do every fucking workout I do. And it goes all the way to extreme psycho shit. Like, I did a workout today where I took my foot and held out in front of me and held it for 30 seconds, then pulled it out, held it for 30 seconds. This is all core stuff. It's gotta be the stuff, um... God, what's the name of it? It skips my mind right now. The fighter, the f- uh, UFC fighter, uh, the f- the French kid who was amazing.

Joe Rogan 33:15 George St-Pierre?

Diamond Dallas Page 33:16 Yes. I mean, nobody could ever take him down. You know, they hook his leg in, boom, and (laughs) you're not taking him down. He gonna hop around because his core strength, he had to be doing some of this type of stuff.

Joe Rogan 33:26 Does a lot of gymnastics.

Diamond Dallas Page 33:27 Well, again, those guys are super freaks. And he-

Joe Rogan 33:29 Yeah.

Diamond Dallas Page 33:30 And, you know, as wrestlers or UFC guys, I mean, they're... That's a whole different level. And Georges St-Pierre, I remember walking in, nobody's taking him down. I don't care how they hook his leg. So he really gets all of that inner strength. And that's really what I'm doing at a level that you can start in bed.

Joe Rogan 33:47 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 33:47 So there's no more fucking excuses.

Joe Rogan 33:49 No more fucking excuses. And that's so damn important.

Diamond Dallas Page 33:52 It is.

Joe Rogan 33:52 Because people can feel sorry for themselves. They can say they can't do it, they don't have the energy, they're too beat up. That's bullshit. There's always something you can do.

Diamond Dallas Page 34:00 Absolutely.

Joe Rogan 34:00 There's always something. If, if you... But if you give yourself that fucking excuse, that's the problem. What, what I love about that video is, if anybody had an excuse, it's that guy.

Diamond Dallas Page 34:09 Absolutely.

Joe Rogan 34:10 That guy, I mean, two canes, giant belly, blown out knees, blown out back, v- veteran, paratrooper.

Diamond Dallas Page 34:18 Yep.

Joe Rogan 34:18 Gu- gu- I mean, jumping out of fucking airplanes over and over again, blows his body apart, and you fixed it.

Diamond Dallas Page 34:23 Y-

Joe Rogan 34:23 Not... And he fixed it.

Diamond Dallas Page 34:24 And he fixed it. I just literally, like... (laughs) So funny.

Joe Rogan 34:28 That's incredible.

Diamond Dallas Page 34:29 So when I sent him the food plan, right? From, from, from Fred Bisci- see, I can't-

Joe Rogan 34:33 Explain the food plan because it seems to-

Diamond Dallas Page 34:35 Well, the foods are-

Joe Rogan 34:35 ... it's just regular food, but, like, what do you have at the meeting? Like, chicken, steak-

Diamond Dallas Page 34:39 Okay. Well, let's, let's, let's go.

Joe Rogan 34:40 ... fish, vegetables?

Diamond Dallas Page 34:40 There's so... I let people... You'll hear me say in my program over and over and over and over and over again, make the DDPY your own. Like, and I explained to Arthur, when I called him... Well, here's what happened. So he, um, h- he's... I sent him the food plan, let me say it, and if he writes me back, "I think I can do it, I'll give it a try..."

Joe Rogan 35:01 You go crazy.

Diamond Dallas Page 35:01 No, I go, "Hey, awesome. Keep me posted." But he said four words, or he wrote four words. "I can do this." I said, "Give me your number right now."

Joe Rogan 35:10 (laughs)

Diamond Dallas Page 35:10 And I called the motherfucker up. "If you say you can and you say you can't, you're right. You know that." If you-

Joe Rogan 35:15 If you say you can or you say you can't?

Diamond Dallas Page 35:16 You're right.

Joe Rogan 35:17 Right. Yeah, yeah.

Diamond Dallas Page 35:17 Do you know who said that originally?

Joe Rogan 35:18 Who?

Diamond Dallas Page 35:19 Henry Ford.

Joe Rogan 35:20 He was right.

Diamond Dallas Page 35:20 Yeah. And I always say-

Joe Rogan 35:21 (laughs)

Diamond Dallas Page 35:22 ... "But, but what the fuck did he ever do?"

Joe Rogan 35:23 (laughs)

Diamond Dallas Page 35:24 (laughs) You know? What the fuck did he ever do? But for... When he said, "I can do it," I said, "Give me your number." So I called him and I said... You know, we talked for about an hour. Two weeks later, he calls me back. The main thing I talked to him in, in, in that conversation, which is again, what un- positively unstoppable is all about, as important as the workout is, as important as the eating plan is, that's 10% of the equation. The 90% is right between your ears. Right here, that six-inch piece of real estate, the story you tell yourself. And I said, "If you can really just get past that story and start re-telling yourself a different story..." An example would be when I had... when I went up for my Hall of Fame induction speech in front of 20,000 people and millions of people on USA and on the WWE network, which is only 9.99, by the way, (laughs) it's like a rib.

Joe Rogan 36:17 (laughs)

Diamond Dallas Page 36:18 Uh, bottom line is, is that I wasn't in the back going, "Oh God, I hope I don't fuck this up. Oh God, what if I forget what I was gonna say? Oh God, this sucks. Wait, what if I, what if I fuck up?" I wasn't saying that. I was saying, "This is gonna be the best thing I've ever done. I'm gonna blow people away. I'm gonna make 'em laugh, I'm gonna make 'em cry. I'm gonna inspire 'em." And that was my inner voice. And I went out there and did the best thing I've ever done. Like, it's the best thing I've ever done. But it's about that story that you tell yourself and you get all this shit. And that's why people listen to you, because they want... they need to be reminded it over and over and over again, you know?

Joe Rogan 36:53 The way you think about things is so important. It's so important. It's almost more important than the facts.

Diamond Dallas Page 36:58 You're right. You're right.

Joe Rogan 36:59 It's... The way, and the way this guy decided that he was gonna change his life, that, that video is so important to people. I mean, if there's ever... That's the best testimonial video you're ever gonna see.

Diamond Dallas Page 37:09 Ever.

Joe Rogan 37:09 I mean, that guy is as broken as they get.I mean, he's basically... I mean, e- easily could have been in a wheelchair, easily.

Diamond Dallas Page 37:15 Well, he was in the amount of time he was going around. You know, like any kind of... You know, go to the hote- you go to the airport, where do they put you?

Joe Rogan 37:21 Yeah, put you in a wheelchair. Yes.

Diamond Dallas Page 37:22 'Cause I mean, it's too hard for people.

Joe Rogan 37:23 Right, too hard for him to walk around.

Diamond Dallas Page 37:25 And again, going back to eating, so back to the food.

Joe Rogan 37:27 So, w- what do you get him eating?

Diamond Dallas Page 37:29 Well, again, I use... Again, man, make the GDPY your own. You can do paleo if you wanna do paleo. You can do this keto diet, whatever you're doing with that. I try to say if you're early on and you're young, y- you know, I encourage them to do calorie counting, calories in, calories out. But a lot of people, that doesn't work for anymore. So, what I get them to do is go gluten and dairy-free. And really, I start them with gluten-free. If you can go... And people go, "Oh, gluten-free." All I s- alls I know is the people I work with get out of pain. I'm one of them. So, I don't give a fuck if you eat gluten or not. I don't care. I'm not the gluten fucking Nazis. I'm fucking like, "Hey, do what the fuck you wanna do," but this is what I do. This is what him and her and him and her do, and look at them. And it just... It helps drop weight. It's, it's about inflammation in your body.

Joe Rogan 38:20 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 38:20 Go back to icing your body. Sugar, (laughs) which we're all addicts for. I try to get them to cut down as much as they can. Some people quit completely, which blows my mind, which tells me they really have that substance. My, my friend Stacey Morris, who lost 180 pounds in 18 months, she's actually on the cover of Women's Day right now, that big magazine for Women's Day, of her transformation. She wrote a book on it, uh, like something comfort... Feel it, Eating Comfort or Family Comfort. You can catch it up on my site. It's up there. But she wrote this book about, um, eating without sugar.

Joe Rogan 38:56 Mm-hmm.

Diamond Dallas Page 38:56 And that's like, "I'm not telling anybody to do that 'cause I can't do that." Uh, you're right (laughs) 'cause I don't want to.

Joe Rogan 39:02 (laughs)

Diamond Dallas Page 39:02 I want to still eat the sugar.

Joe Rogan 39:03 Occasionally.

Diamond Dallas Page 39:03 I just don't eat as much.

Joe Rogan 39:04 But you're not... You're just not being a glutton about it.

Diamond Dallas Page 39:06 And I'm eating good sugars.

Joe Rogan 39:08 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 39:08 You know, like the, the honey that I'm putting in this gimmick is organic honey. So, um, the, um, the f- the food part for, um, for the inflammation would be the sugar, dairy, and wheat, and gluten. Get those out of your body, I challenge you. You, have you ever gone gluten-free and tried-

Joe Rogan 39:29 Yeah. No, I have.

Diamond Dallas Page 39:30 And how much better did you feel?

Joe Rogan 39:31 Feel really good. Look, I, I'm p- basically gluten-free all the time, except for-

Diamond Dallas Page 39:35 Perfect for-

Joe Rogan 39:36 ... I take cheat days.

Diamond Dallas Page 39:37 Oh, sure, but you-

Joe Rogan 39:37 I take a cheat day and I'll have a bowl of pasta. But for the most part, I rarely eat bread and I rarely eat anything, uh, p- pasta or anything with wheat.

Diamond Dallas Page 39:45 Well, let me give you this. Two and a half weeks, let me give you an alternative. I love pasta. I mean-

Joe Rogan 39:52 Me too.

Diamond Dallas Page 39:53 (laughs) I'm, I'm a Irish-German-Dutch kid, but all my best friends were Genta, Cafaro, so, uh, s- uh, uh, (laughs) uh, Rossi. I mean, all my buddies were goombas, you know?

Joe Rogan 40:03 Mm-hmm.

Diamond Dallas Page 40:03 And so I love Italian food. I fucking love it. So, there's a, there's a company called Tincada that has the best pasta I've ever had, and it's a brown rice pasta. So, there's always a substitute. When you get that out of your body, in two and a half, three weeks, it's a different level, Joe. Like, you've already feel better, you feel better, but it's gotta get out of your body. And then if you put it back in, you know, here and there-

Joe Rogan 40:28 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 40:28 ... you're gonna feel it, but it's gonna (snaps fingers) go away quicker 'cause it doesn't have all that shit stored in your body, you know?

Joe Rogan 40:32 Well, it also reminds me of how shitty I feel after I eat it.

Diamond Dallas Page 40:34 (laughs) Right.

Joe Rogan 40:35 When I do eat a pizza, I just like, "Oh."

Diamond Dallas Page 40:38 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 40:38 And lay it on the couch like a, like a lead weight's in my stomach. But what I substituted it with is spaghetti squash. I love spaghetti squash.

Diamond Dallas Page 40:45 Awesome. That is awesome choice.

Joe Rogan 40:46 Spaghetti squash with some garlic and marinara sauce, it's fantastic.

Diamond Dallas Page 40:50 And that's one of our-

Joe Rogan 40:50 And it's guilt-free.

Diamond Dallas Page 40:51 ... that's one of our recipes. Like, the way our, our app is set up, our DDP Yoga now app... And like I said, anybody who wants to try it, fuck it, cost you nothing. Go try it for seven days. You like it, like it. Not, get out of it, I don't give a fuck.

Joe Rogan 41:02 (laughs)

Diamond Dallas Page 41:03 So, (laughs) I mean, I don't. I mean, I only want people who wanna put the work in.

Joe Rogan 41:05 Right, I hear you.

Diamond Dallas Page 41:06 Some people will say to me, "Well, how much do I have to do it?" I say, "You don't."

Joe Rogan 41:10 You don't have to do anything.

Diamond Dallas Page 41:11 Don't fucking do it.

Joe Rogan 41:13 Yeah.

Diamond Dallas Page 41:13 I don't want you to do it.

Joe Rogan 41:14 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 41:14 I want you to own it and really do it or not.

Joe Rogan 41:18 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 41:18 And I'll try to inspire you, 'cause every, every Monday, I got motivational Mondays on the app. Every Monday, I'm doing another story about something I saw and I'm bringing it to you. Could be three minutes, it could be eight minutes, but it's gonna-

Joe Rogan 41:31 Is it a video on the app?

Diamond Dallas Page 41:32 Yes.

Joe Rogan 41:32 Is that what it is?

Diamond Dallas Page 41:33 It's, it's, it's... And one... There's 150 of them up there, 'cause I've been doing it for two and a half years.

Joe Rogan 41:37 Wow.

Diamond Dallas Page 41:37 And then there's... Every week, we have a new recipe come out. And I'm not just gonna tell you what's in it and how to make it. I'm gonna fucking show you how to make it, 'cause we got... In our DDP Yoga Performance Center, which is in Smyrna, Georgia, which, by the way, every first time you come in there, it's free. Name me another fucking gym or something like that that does that.

Joe Rogan 41:58 How far is that from Dallas? Or how s- uh, from, uh-

Diamond Dallas Page 42:01 Atlanta?

Joe Rogan 42:01 ... Atlanta, rather?

Diamond Dallas Page 42:01 Well, it's literally 20... It's 20 minutes from the heart of Atlanta. I mean-

Joe Rogan 42:05 All right.

Diamond Dallas Page 42:06 ... it's, it's one of the suburbs.

Joe Rogan 42:06 Next time I'm in Atlanta, when I'm doing a gig, I'm gonna stop in.

Diamond Dallas Page 42:09 Dude, no, you're gonna stay.

Joe Rogan 42:10 I'll stop in.

Diamond Dallas Page 42:10 You're gonna stay.

Joe Rogan 42:11 (laughs)

Diamond Dallas Page 42:11 I have... I just bought a crib that literally one of my buddies, Titus, who's from the WWE, is coming in on Tuesday to train with me. I got a hyperbaric chamber now.

Joe Rogan 42:22 Whoa.

Diamond Dallas Page 42:22 Yes, 12 PSI.

Joe Rogan 42:24 Holy shit.

Diamond Dallas Page 42:24 I got a cryo system-

Joe Rogan 42:27 Damn.

Diamond Dallas Page 42:27 ... in my house.

Joe Rogan 42:29 Damn.

Diamond Dallas Page 42:29 (laughs) I'm just-

Joe Rogan 42:29 What about float tanks?

Diamond Dallas Page 42:31 I don't have that yet.

Joe Rogan 42:32 You ever fuck with one?

Diamond Dallas Page 42:33 You know, I haven't 'cause I'm kinda gonna be s-

Joe Rogan 42:34 I got one right here, buddy.

Diamond Dallas Page 42:35 I'm gonna, I'm re- I'm kinda scared of that-

Joe Rogan 42:37 Don't be scared.

Diamond Dallas Page 42:37 ... because it's, it's fre- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:39 Fucking Simon Dallas Page, what are you talking about?

Diamond Dallas Page 42:40 I'm just being honest.

Joe Rogan 42:41 You can't be scared.

Diamond Dallas Page 42:42 I'm just being honest.

Joe Rogan 42:43 How are you scared? You, you've, you sound like-

Diamond Dallas Page 42:45 Because-

Joe Rogan 42:45 ... the people you're screaming against.

Diamond Dallas Page 42:47 No, I do, but I'm being honest, bro. When I first got in the chamber-

Joe Rogan 42:49 Can I get you in one? Can I get you in one today?

Diamond Dallas Page 42:52 You know what?

Joe Rogan 42:53 All I need is an hour.

Diamond Dallas Page 42:54 Yes.

Joe Rogan 42:54 Ah!

Diamond Dallas Page 42:55 Yes.

Joe Rogan 42:55 Yes! You're gonna-

Diamond Dallas Page 42:56 But you gotta g-

Joe Rogan 42:56 You're gonna wanna have one in your house. I guarantee you.

Diamond Dallas Page 42:58 But you, but you g-

Joe Rogan 42:58 It's the most relaxing thing ever.

Diamond Dallas Page 43:00 Okay. B- d- g- I can easily get out of it, but there's-

Joe Rogan 43:02 Oh, yeah. Just push the door open.

Diamond Dallas Page 43:03 Okay, cool.

Joe Rogan 43:03 Yeah, it's easy.

Diamond Dallas Page 43:04 All right. Very-

Joe Rogan 43:04 Super easy.

Diamond Dallas Page 43:05 Sp- y- o- only because it's y- 'cause you inspire me.

Joe Rogan 43:07 All right.

Diamond Dallas Page 43:07 I mean, you inspire the fuck outta me. Like-

Joe Rogan 43:09 Thank you.

Diamond Dallas Page 43:09 ... like, I was i- i- this was so crazy. I-

Joe Rogan 43:11 Feeling's mutual.

Diamond Dallas Page 43:12 Thank you. Thank you, I appreciate that. You know, I, uh, I knew we were gonna get along, like, incredibly.

Joe Rogan 43:16 (laughs)

Diamond Dallas Page 43:16 But, but here's what happened. I, I, I've been reaching out to different people like Eddie Bravo. He's a, like-

Joe Rogan 43:22 Yeah.

Diamond Dallas Page 43:22 ... he's a buddy of mine and I've been-

Joe Rogan 43:23 And he just got his disc replaced.

Diamond Dallas Page 43:24 Did he really?

Joe Rogan 43:24 Yeah, he had a lower ba- his be- disc was so bad he could barely get out of bed. And he had a titanium articulating disc put in his back. He feels way better now.

Diamond Dallas Page 43:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:33 And he gained an inch. He's 5'9" now.

Diamond Dallas Page 43:35 Y- which, which is pretty sweet because of all the technology that they have-

Joe Rogan 43:38 Yeah, it's very incredible.

Diamond Dallas Page 43:39 ... that's, that can help that.

Joe Rogan 43:39 His discs were all smashed from jujitsu.

Diamond Dallas Page 43:42 Of course.

Joe Rogan 43:42 Especially his lower back.

Diamond Dallas Page 43:44 You know, I've always said, like, Eddie Bravo, like, he did what, you know, to the jujitsu c- community what I've done in the, uh, in the-

Joe Rogan 43:53 Yoga.

Diamond Dallas Page 43:54 ... yoga community.

Joe Rogan 43:54 Yeah.

Diamond Dallas Page 43:54 You know? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:55 Just take a totally different path.

Diamond Dallas Page 43:56 Right.

Joe Rogan 43:57 Yeah.

Diamond Dallas Page 43:57 Like, I don't wanna be in the yoga world, I wanna be way the fuck over there.

Joe Rogan 44:01 Mm-hmm.

Diamond Dallas Page 44:01 I wanna be the different guy then. Um, but we were just talking about ... What were we talking right before that? Oh yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:06 Oh yes, the float tanks.

Diamond Dallas Page 44:06 So ... So, no but after that, I, I, I had reached out to a bunch of different guys. I like, "I've heard you talk about, you know, DDPY and what we're doing, and you, you've talked about a lot of cool stuff." You know, and you, you've s- segued me into a couple. I'm like, "I gotta get on his show, I mean, I think we'll get amazing ... we'll get along amazingly." And then I saw on YouTube, it was a, um ... Somebody had put together, like, a bunch of your clips from the show. And I'm listening to it, I'm like, "Man, this motherfucker s- sounds just like me." I mean, "I gotta get on his show." And I literally ... When I finished watching it, I literally looked up, I went, "God, I'm throwing this out in the universe. I wanna get on Rogan's show within the next year." Two days later, you DM me.

Joe Rogan 44:44 Whoa!

Diamond Dallas Page 44:45 (laughs) Two days later, you DM me and said, "Hey, bro-"

Joe Rogan 44:50 I've been meaning to DM you forever.

Diamond Dallas Page 44:51 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 44:52 I mean, it's one of those things where I ... it's just, uh, uh, unfortunately or fortunately there's just so many different requests for people to come on the podcast.

Diamond Dallas Page 44:59 Sure.

Joe Rogan 44:59 I can't keep up.

Diamond Dallas Page 45:00 No, I get it.

Joe Rogan 45:01 It's just, I can't. It's impossible.

Diamond Dallas Page 45:02 I get it.

Joe Rogan 45:03 But, you've been in the back of my head for a long time. And I think that yoga, like I said, is, is so important.

Diamond Dallas Page 45:08 Five ways.

Joe Rogan 45:08 And I think what you're- you've done is make it accessible to people that wouldn't have considered it before.

Diamond Dallas Page 45:13 All right, but you gotta do me a favor.

Joe Rogan 45:14 Okay. What do I gotta do?

Diamond Dallas Page 45:15 When you're talking about what the fuck I do, DDPY.

Joe Rogan 45:20 DDPY.

Diamond Dallas Page 45:21 And it-

Joe Rogan 45:21 Say that and not yoga?

Diamond Dallas Page 45:22 Yes.

Joe Rogan 45:23 Okay.

Diamond Dallas Page 45:23 Because it's different, you know? Mainly 'cause people put it in a box.

Joe Rogan 45:26 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 45:26 You know?

Joe Rogan 45:26 I know what you're saying. Yeah.

Diamond Dallas Page 45:27 And you get it.

Joe Rogan 45:28 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 45:28 Like, will you, will you do a workout with me?

Joe Rogan 45:30 Yes, I would love to.

Diamond Dallas Page 45:31 All right.

Joe Rogan 45:31 Well, Aubrey did it. M- my partner in Onnit.

Diamond Dallas Page 45:33 Yes. Yes!

Joe Rogan 45:34 And he ...

Diamond Dallas Page 45:34 I love Aubrey! Yes!

Joe Rogan 45:35 Fucking loved it. He loved it. He said, "Dude, it's badass." He said, "He's definitely doing something different." His, his take was, he's like, "He's got ... He's doing yoga," he goes, "but he's got a whole nother edge to it."

Diamond Dallas Page 45:45 Yeah. And, and I keep, again, making it my own.

Joe Rogan 45:48 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 45:48 And I encourage everybody. What, what's really cool about ... I've got some workouts that have me and like two people or four people behind me, and they're like the introductory. There's always someone modifying. Like, when I first started doing yoga, no one modified shit.

Joe Rogan 46:03 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 46:03 They never told you, so I had to like figure this shit out.

Joe Rogan 46:06 Mm-hmm.

Diamond Dallas Page 46:06 So anything I did, I gave you my ... "How do you make this easier? Step in, lower to a knee. Don't blow yourself out." Now, the thing that you don't know ... And I gave you one of my DDP yoga mats with a bag. Inside it is a Bluetooth heart monitor. And what that's gonna do is connect right to the app.

Joe Rogan 46:27 Ah.

Diamond Dallas Page 46:27 So are you an iPhone guy or Android?

Joe Rogan 46:29 I have iPhone but I'm gonna switch over.

Diamond Dallas Page 46:31 Well even-

Joe Rogan 46:31 I'm tired of their bullshit.

Diamond Dallas Page 46:32 Oh, I get that too. (laughs) But I'm sort of like a, um, an addict of not wanting to learn again.

Joe Rogan 46:37 (laughs)

Diamond Dallas Page 46:37 But, you know, they got that mirroring thing so it pops right up on your TV. Up there will come where your heart rate's at.

Joe Rogan 46:42 Oh, wow.

Diamond Dallas Page 46:43 And then it tracks you. At the end of it, how long have you not been in your zone, how long have you been in your zone, and how long have you been over your zone? Think about this.

Joe Rogan 46:51 Who did this app for you?

Diamond Dallas Page 46:53 Myself, Steve Yu, who's the president of my company. And we hired these guys out of Turkey, because they were all ... Once they ... They all went to, uh, Georgia Tech. And it's way cheaper, but it's, you know, it's been a long ... I got ... Probably coming up on $3 million I bet.

Joe Rogan 47:11 Jesus Christ.

Diamond Dallas Page 47:11 No, it's ... Dude, it's extensive.

Joe Rogan 47:13 It sounds fantastic.

Diamond Dallas Page 47:13 It's extensive, you know? And again, there's a lot of interaction with it, you know?

Joe Rogan 47:18 Right, right.

Diamond Dallas Page 47:19 So, um, um, the actual, uh ... We make it like a video game at the end. So when it gets to the end, you know, it'll go brrr, ping, ping, ping, ping, ping. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:27 (laughs) Like, like you get to the end of Mario Brothers?

Diamond Dallas Page 47:29 Right, ex- it's exactly-

Joe Rogan 47:31 Beautiful.

Diamond Dallas Page 47:31 ... what I wanted. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:31 Beautiful. You hit the next level.

Diamond Dallas Page 47:33 Right.

Joe Rogan 47:33 So when you're putting all this stuff together, like, this has gotta be a long process of refining and getting it just right.

Diamond Dallas Page 47:39 Oh yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:39 I mean, this must have taken over your life.

Diamond Dallas Page 47:42 Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. But I go on the road all the time. I do comic cons. Do you ever do comic cons?

Joe Rogan 47:47 No, no, I've never done. I want to though.

Diamond Dallas Page 47:48 Dude, you have to. You will fucking have a line forever.

Joe Rogan 47:53 (laughs) I used to be a comic book dork, man. I had a sale 'em all when I was poor. I used to ... I had all these comic books that I collected from the time I was a little kid. And then when I became a standup comedian and I was starving in the early days-

Diamond Dallas Page 48:05 Right.

Joe Rogan 48:05 ... I sold all my comic books and just, it's just a bummer, man. I'm scared to go look at comic books again.

Diamond Dallas Page 48:10 No, don't, don't, don't do that 'cause it'll just piss you off. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:13 (laughs)

Diamond Dallas Page 48:14 Uh, uh, do you know who Adi Shankar is?

Joe Rogan 48:16 No.

Diamond Dallas Page 48:17 Did you see, um ... There was a Power Ranger bootleg video that came out, like, maybe four years ago, five years ago. I think it was five years ago. And it blew up on YouTube, got like five million views, which, you know, back then that was fucking huge.

Joe Rogan 48:33 Yeah, it must be crazy.

Diamond Dallas Page 48:34 So, um, the guy who owns, um, owns the Power Rangers put a lawsuit on Adi and YouTube. And they had to pull it off. Next thing you know Adi's on CNN and they're, you know, they're asking him about it and he's like, "Fuck him." He goes, he doesn't ... "I mean, we're not trying to make money. We're not monetizing this." And-

Joe Rogan 48:50 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 48:50 ... next thing you know he pulled the thing off, you know, the lawsuit off. And now it's got like 22 million. And this is something that he did because he's produced a bunch of movies, but they kept changing his shit. Like, wouldn't let him do what he wanted to do. And, uh, like this last one was Judge Dredd. And five years ago or little bit before that, he's telling me how he's gonna do this shit on YouTube. And I'm like, "What the fuck do you mean you're gonna do ... put, like, shorts on YouTube?"... well, he did that one. It's got 22 million views right now. Um, he, uh... And that really became, like, this underground, you know, Yoda-type person of the internet. And, uh, he sent me a script, um, about three years ago, and we started it. And it's called Gods. And it's kind of like... You know, every, all superheroes, as you know, they're all slightly different, but the same. And, uh, it's a very dark, dark superhero series that's... Well, when you get to the fighting part of it, it'll remind you of, like, Fight, you know, from the ni- from the '80s freaking video games.

Joe Rogan 49:53 Mortal Kombat, right.

Diamond Dallas Page 49:54 Right, shit like that. Uh, meets, uh, a really dark story that, uh... It's gonna be a Netflix original, so, uh-

Joe Rogan 50:02 Oh, that's interesting.

Diamond Dallas Page 50:03 ... something, something to wi-... Well, I think you'll, I think you'll dig it. It's-

Joe Rogan 50:06 Well, I loved the Watchmen, you know?

Diamond Dallas Page 50:07 It's kind of a little bit like that-

Joe Rogan 50:09 Yeah.

Diamond Dallas Page 50:09 ... but not.

Joe Rogan 50:09 I was hoping they were gonna do a sequel and I had heard that they... Weren't they planning on that, Jamie? Isn't that, that something they're working on? It was so good, I was like, "How are they, how did they not follow up on this?"

Diamond Dallas Page 50:19 I, I don't know. You know? But we're gonna... We have, like I say, we're... It's in the process right now, putting together. Audi's the brains behind it, but it's something I'm... You know, being you're into comics and stuff, you'll love it, I think.

Joe Rogan 50:30 What's it on?

Young Jamie Vernon 50:30 It's gonna be on HBO coming out next year.

Joe Rogan 50:32 Oh, shit.

Diamond Dallas Page 50:33 Oh, that's right.

Joe Rogan 50:34 Next year?

Diamond Dallas Page 50:34 They're gonna do... Is that a series?

Joe Rogan 50:35 A TV series.

Diamond Dallas Page 50:35 I heard that, yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:37 Ah. Oh, but different people, huh?

Young Jamie Vernon 50:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:39 Oh, interesting. All right. Well, I'm down for that.

Diamond Dallas Page 50:43 Yeah, I'll check it out, man.

Joe Rogan 50:44 HBO, man.

Diamond Dallas Page 50:45 I love HBO.

Joe Rogan 50:45 They gotta pick up the slack. Netflix is coming in strong.

Diamond Dallas Page 50:48 They are, boy.

Joe Rogan 50:49 HBO's like, "Fuck, man."

Diamond Dallas Page 50:50 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:51 "Gather up the troops."

Diamond Dallas Page 50:52 Right (laughs) .

Joe Rogan 50:52 "There's a war going on." Fucking Ozark's back, baby. Woo!

Diamond Dallas Page 50:55 Oh, I love that show.

Young Jamie Vernon 50:57 Yeah, it's great, bro, right?

Joe Rogan 50:57 Woo! I'm two episodes in. Damn, it's a good show. (clapping) Anyway.

Diamond Dallas Page 51:00 Did you, did you see The First Sinner?

Joe Rogan 51:03 Sinner?

Diamond Dallas Page 51:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:03 Oh, no, I haven't seen that show.

Diamond Dallas Page 51:04 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 51:04 I heard that's very good. That's Jessica Biel?

Diamond Dallas Page 51:06 Oh, dude.

Joe Rogan 51:08 How hot is she?

Diamond Dallas Page 51:08 My, m-... Oh.

Joe Rogan 51:09 A little too hot?

Diamond Dallas Page 51:09 She's smoking.

Joe Rogan 51:10 We'll confuse her.

Diamond Dallas Page 51:10 But they made her look so-

Joe Rogan 51:11 She's gonna be confusing people.

Diamond Dallas Page 51:13 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:13 Like, you're around her, you're like, "I don't know what my opinions are."

Diamond Dallas Page 51:15 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:16 "I'm gonna change them. You tell me what your opinions are, I'll take those."

Diamond Dallas Page 51:19 She, she looked... She, she comes off as really, like, girl-next-door-ish.

Joe Rogan 51:23 Yeah?

Diamond Dallas Page 51:23 But that, th- that freaking show right there... My wife, and, uh, Brenda, and my, my daughter Lexie, uh, she was there. We watched all eight episodes.

Joe Rogan 51:33 Damn.

Diamond Dallas Page 51:33 Like, one after another on a Sunday afternoon. We were, like, pulled in. She... My wife had seen, uh... Brenda had seen... They were playing it on the plane. And she... When she came back, she's like, "We have... I couldn't finish watching it. You've got to get this. I watched it from the beginning again."

Joe Rogan 51:46 Wow.

Diamond Dallas Page 51:46 "It's that good."

Joe Rogan 51:47 Damn.

Diamond Dallas Page 51:47 It's badass.

Joe Rogan 51:48 There's so many good shows now. It's a really interesting time to be a consumer. You know?

Diamond Dallas Page 51:52 Oh, absolutely, man. Yeah, I'm, I'm big on the Netflix and... Uh, Sneaky Pete, did you ever see any of that?

Joe Rogan 51:58 No, I heard that's great too.

Diamond Dallas Page 51:59 (sighs) Okay.

Joe Rogan 51:59 That's on Amazon, right?

Diamond Dallas Page 52:00 Yeah, it's on Amazon.

Joe Rogan 52:01 Yeah.

Diamond Dallas Page 52:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:01 Yeah, everyone's just... That Goliath is supposed to be fantastic on Amazon too. That's that Billy Bob Thornton show.

Diamond Dallas Page 52:07 Oh, I loved the first season. I, I, I haven't got to the second one yet, but, uh...

Joe Rogan 52:10 Yeah. It's a crazy time. Have you thought about doing something like that? Make... Like, maybe on a Netflix or something along those lines? Like, having, like, uh, sort of, like, inspirational clips m- m- m- mixed in with your workouts with these people, showing transformations?

Diamond Dallas Page 52:25 Um, you know, I... A, a good friend of mine...

Joe Rogan 52:27 That's gotta be a great idea.

Diamond Dallas Page 52:28 Do you know who Tim, Tim Sabian is?

Joe Rogan 52:30 I know the name, yeah.

Diamond Dallas Page 52:31 He, he was Howard Stern's ring guy-

Joe Rogan 52:33 Yeah, that's why I know him.

Diamond Dallas Page 52:34 ... for years.

Joe Rogan 52:34 That's why I know him by name. Okay.

Diamond Dallas Page 52:35 And, uh, he just came up to me. He was at that show I was telling you about, All In, this weekend. And he was like, "Dude, Twitch is the future. You... We've got to do something with this." And I don't... I've heard of Twitch, but it was like video game.

Joe Rogan 52:48 Mm-hmm.

Diamond Dallas Page 52:48 You know, people watching video games stuff? He said, "Yeah, but it's gonna go to a whole new level." And Sabian's a really (laughs) smart guy. And, uh, I'm actually helping him get back on track with his health, so he's gonna come to Atlanta and see me and he's gonna talk to me and Steve, and figure out what we do. Like, I, I, I'm all over... We... This company would never be successful without the internet. Okay?

Joe Rogan 53:08 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 53:08 Without people sharing that Arthur video everywhere. You know, and there's so many other videos that we've had go viral. One of my favorites, and I'll, I'll, I'll get this to you. Uh, my buddy named Marc Mero, he was a former wrestler, Marvelous Marc Mero. Back when we wrestled together, he was Johnny B. Bad, and he-

Joe Rogan 53:25 Did he change his name from Johnny to Marc?

Diamond Dallas Page 53:27 Well, his real name was Marc.

Joe Rogan 53:28 To hide his checks?

Diamond Dallas Page 53:29 (laughs) Yeah, well... You know, the... His real-

Joe Rogan 53:31 Johnny B. Bad was bad. (laughs)

Diamond Dallas Page 53:32 He actually was. Actually, actually, Marc Mero is a four-time New York, um, um, Empire State Games boxing champion.

Joe Rogan 53:40 Ah.

Diamond Dallas Page 53:40 Yeah, from back in the day when he was a kid. But, uh, he, he's become this inspirational speaker to kids. I've never seen anybody move kids the way he does. So, he was in Atlanta one day and I sent my crew down there, 'cause I got a whole production studio. Like, Resurrection, we filmed it, we edited it, we did everything. And, um, I sent my crew down there to just go down and film him. And Steve took this one part where he talks about his mom. Now, no bullshit, Joe. I can show you how this one four-minute clip that Steve produced has over a half a billion views on Facebook. Like, half a billion. And now... Uh, Mar- Marc went from having trouble getting booked at high schools to being in such demand that he had this... He had 3,000 requests the month that that video went crazy.

Joe Rogan 54:26 (laughs)

Diamond Dallas Page 54:26 And people keep taking it and putting it out there, but he, he connects with kids. It starts out with, "I wanna be rich, I wanna be famous." And then he shows you, as you know, what can come with that if you're not freaking mentally prepared to handle that. And I don't know how any fucking kid can be 18, 19, 20 years old-

Joe Rogan 54:43 I don't think they can.

Diamond Dallas Page 54:44 Yeah, well, and per-

Joe Rogan 54:45 I've never seen anybody succeed.

Diamond Dallas Page 54:46 LeBron.

Joe Rogan 54:47 Yeah.

Diamond Dallas Page 54:48 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 54:49 He's very... Yeah, he... But you know what I think? One of the reasons why a guy like him has succeeded is because his success comes along with athletic performance.

Diamond Dallas Page 54:56 Right.

Joe Rogan 54:57 Like, it's not just like being Justin Bieber.

Diamond Dallas Page 55:00 Right, right.

Joe Rogan 55:00 Or, you know, being some sort of a musical superstar. I think the struggle of the athletic pu- pursuit is one of the things that keeps you humble. Because the- there's no way to get around the work.

Diamond Dallas Page 55:11 No.

Joe Rogan 55:11 And the work keeps you humble. There's no... I mean, the kinda work that you have to put in to be a LeBron James, I don't care how genetically gifted he is-

Diamond Dallas Page 55:18 Sure.

Joe Rogan 55:18 ... and clearly he's a fucking freak athlete.

Diamond Dallas Page 55:21 (laughs) Ridiculous.

Joe Rogan 55:21 But he's also... But he's also got a powerful mind. When you hear-

Diamond Dallas Page 55:25 Yes.

Joe Rogan 55:25 ... that guy talk... There, there was some sort of round table thing he was doing. I don't know if you saw this. With Jon Stewart and a few other people.

Young Jamie Vernon 55:31 Yeah, it's on, yeah, it's on HBO also.

Joe Rogan 55:31 Is that his show?

Young Jamie Vernon 55:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:33 When that guy talks, you go-

Diamond Dallas Page 55:34 What is it called? What is it?

Young Jamie Vernon 55:35 Barber Shop. The Barber Shop.

Diamond Dallas Page 55:36 Okay.

Joe Rogan 55:36 Oh, okay.

Diamond Dallas Page 55:36 I gotta watch that. I love LeBron.

Joe Rogan 55:38 When he talks, you go-

Diamond Dallas Page 55:39 Love him.

Joe Rogan 55:39 ... "Okay, there's a fucking nuclear furnace burning inside that guy."

Young Jamie Vernon 55:43 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 55:43 That's why he's so successful. It's not just him being a freak athlete. It's the mind, his mind. But that hard work and that dedication in his mind is the reason why he's still so good and keeps it together at, you know... What is he, 35 now?

Young Jamie Vernon 55:58 Mm, 33?

Joe Rogan 55:59 33?

Young Jamie Vernon 56:00 Yeah.

Diamond Dallas Page 56:00 But he's been around forever. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 56:01 Been around for a long time, but been super fucking successful for a long time.

Diamond Dallas Page 56:05 That's ridiculous.

Joe Rogan 56:05 And never fucked up. Never drove his car into a tree, never punched a cop, never got crazy.

Diamond Dallas Page 56:10 Right.

Joe Rogan 56:11 I mean, he's, he's kept it together in a rare way that very few superstars do. Because it's a... You know it. I mean, you, I'm sure you went from when you first started into pro wrestling to becoming super famous, it's a, it's an intoxicating drug.

Diamond Dallas Page 56:24 Absolutely.

Joe Rogan 56:25 And it's a confusing drug. It confuses the shit out of a lot of people. Fortunately for you, you were already a man.

Diamond Dallas Page 56:31 Right. And that was the big difference. I should say, starting at 35 was the worst thing physically because b- one of my matches or any of these kids today, it's like four or five car accidents-

Joe Rogan 56:40 Right. (laughs)

Diamond Dallas Page 56:40 ... one match.

Joe Rogan 56:41 Yeah. Really legitimately.

Diamond Dallas Page 56:43 You know, every n- every night.

Joe Rogan 56:43 Yeah.

Diamond Dallas Page 56:44 And I said as, you know, as hard as it was starting at 35, the really positive side was I was 35.

Joe Rogan 56:50 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 56:50 So I was much smarter and-

Joe Rogan 56:52 More disciplined, more mature.

Diamond Dallas Page 56:53 Way, way more. And you know, but I was telling you about when you come to Atlanta, you're gonna stay at my place, man.

Joe Rogan 56:58 Okay.

Diamond Dallas Page 56:58 'Cause you, my, my wife is amazing. We have the best bed and breakfast and there's like five rooms that are all king-sized beds 'cause again, I'm getting ready to work with top athletes. You look at LeBron, you look at Brady. How do they perform at such a level? Especially Brady at being 40 years old now. And-

Joe Rogan 57:15 Pretty crazy.

Diamond Dallas Page 57:16 It's... But it's the way he eats, which is pretty much the way I eat.

Joe Rogan 57:20 Isn't he a vegan though?

Diamond Dallas Page 57:21 Um, he's really, he doesn't eat legumes. It's, it's very strict. Again, way I eat, I still want the beef. I still want... But I don't eat it all the time now, where I used to eat that shit all the time. I used to eat 12 eggs in the morning, now I eat eight. You know, five yolks and three whites.

Joe Rogan 57:37 Mm-hmm.

Diamond Dallas Page 57:37 But again, it's keeping the protein in but, but he's eating for health, let's just call it that. And he's not beating up his body outside, you know-

Joe Rogan 57:46 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 57:46 ... of what he's doing. When he gets hit, he beats up his body. But before that all, he's doing is strengthening his body. And that's what DDPY is, is strengthening you. Like I just was, you know, reading something. I, I love that, that Gurley didn't, Todd didn't play in any preseason stuff this year. You don't need that. He's gonna be out there, he's gonna be in the best shape.

Joe Rogan 58:05 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 58:05 He's not gonna have put his body already through abuse, you know? So it's just like wherever you can... Everything that you do with jujitsu, MMA, UFC, NFL, getting to the show is the thing. And when you get to the show, you have two jobs. One, be the best player you can be, the best performer. Two, don't get hurt.

Joe Rogan 58:29 You know what's crazy about Tom Brady? He looks like someone's dad. Like you see him on the beach.

Diamond Dallas Page 58:33 Right. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:34 He don't look like, you know-

Diamond Dallas Page 58:35 Right.

Joe Rogan 58:35 You know, like you see Herschel Walker without his shirt off, you go, "Jesus fucking Christ. What lab was that guy created in?"

Diamond Dallas Page 58:41 Right. (laughs) Right.

Joe Rogan 58:42 You know what I mean? You see, you see Tom Brady, like, "Oh, there's Mike's dad." (laughs)

Diamond Dallas Page 58:46 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:47 You know what I mean? He's totally normal looking. I mean, he doesn't look bad. He looks like he's in good shape. There he is. Look at that.

Diamond Dallas Page 58:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:53 What, what the fuck?

Diamond Dallas Page 58:54 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:55 What the fuck? How's that possible?

Diamond Dallas Page 58:58 Unbelievable man.

Joe Rogan 58:58 How is that the greatest quarterback of all time? That's Mike's dad.

Diamond Dallas Page 59:02 Work ethic. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:05 But it's as... Obviously his mind too. I mean, that's fucking insane. And that guy ain't sucking in his gut for anybody. You could suck his dick.

Diamond Dallas Page 59:11 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:11 How about that? He's not sucking in his gut.

Diamond Dallas Page 59:13 Bang.

Joe Rogan 59:13 He lets that thing hang out. Look at it.

Diamond Dallas Page 59:16 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:16 I mean, it's, it's a couple of inches over his fucking shorts. (laughs)

Diamond Dallas Page 59:19 Hey, l- let, let him-

Joe Rogan 59:21 He doesn't give a shit.

Diamond Dallas Page 59:21 ... let him relax.

Joe Rogan 59:22 He doesn't give a shit.

Diamond Dallas Page 59:23 (laughs) He's got that gorgeous wife with him, he's covered.

Joe Rogan 59:26 You know, they don't get any hotter.

Diamond Dallas Page 59:26 He's got the perfect life. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:27 Her and Jessica Biel together created some sort of a nuclear explosion.

Diamond Dallas Page 59:30 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:31 Next to, too hot. Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy.

Diamond Dallas Page 59:34 But again, it's about healing your body and especially when you're in that spot. And that's what I can do for these guys.

Joe Rogan 59:40 Mm-hmm.

Diamond Dallas Page 59:40 And you'll see as we, as we work out, you'll get it. And you know, it is everything.

Joe Rogan 59:45 Well, I wanna go back to your back. See, this is what I don't understand. When... The, the conventional wisdom is when it's bone on bone-

Diamond Dallas Page 59:52 Right.

Joe Rogan 59:52 ... like you're fucked. There's too much inflammation there, there's too much grinding-

Diamond Dallas Page 59:56 Right.

Joe Rogan 59:56 ... and you're just... It's just gonna be too painful to do anything and you're gonna have to do some sort of a surgery. How i- how does the yoga s-... Is it because all the muscles strengthen?

Diamond Dallas Page 1:00:06 As a result, as a result-

Joe Rogan 1:00:06 The DDPY.

Diamond Dallas Page 1:00:07 There we go.

Joe Rogan 1:00:07 Sorry.

Diamond Dallas Page 1:00:08 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:00:08 How does the DDPY s- do that to... Does it just, the strengthening all the core muscles around your spine stabilizes everything and keeps you from moving?

Diamond Dallas Page 1:00:18 There it is. The, the only thing I can... Remember, Joe, I'm a fucking wrestler. I'm not a night-

Joe Rogan 1:00:21 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 1:00:21 ... a nightclub owner, um, freaking-

Joe Rogan 1:00:24 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 1:00:24 ... I've been working in the bar business my whole life, that's what I did before this. Um, but I, for some reason, I'm just gifted with figuring shit out. Like on my app, there's a guy named Jerry Cameron, disabled vet. In a wheelchair for two and a half years with no weight to lose, all right? He's 6'5", 240, looks great, but he's got the walker that he got f- after two and a half years of being in a chair. Got himself out. Now all this is on my app, on my, in my, uh, We Can Rebuild You. I'm doing my own little show, We Can Rebuild You. I trademarked that name. And you remember what that's from. $6 million Man.

Joe Rogan 1:01:00 $6 Million Man.

Diamond Dallas Page 1:01:01 We can rebuild you. So that's our thing, right?

Joe Rogan 1:01:04 (chop sound) Cha, cha, cha, cha, cha, cha, cha.

Diamond Dallas Page 1:01:05 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01:07 You know that?

Diamond Dallas Page 1:01:07 So Jerry, we have him and we... Over the seven-week period... Now, he's got a long way to go still, but you will be so amazed every show that comes up, how he gains just a little bit more.

Joe Rogan 1:01:19 Just these little incremental steps.

Diamond Dallas Page 1:01:21 Exactly. And by the confidence. And like we, we, we reached out to our community in Smyrna, Georgia, and we said, "We're looking for people that want our help, cost them nothing. If you'll be part of our group and we can track you, you can come, go, do our stuff." You know, and we gave, we gave them the app, we set them up. And out of the 12 or 13 it started, we still have like seven-And this is like eight weeks later, and to see their stories. Like we follow them. Every couple of weeks, we'll pop up and show where they're at and what they're doing. But Jerry, I got a special spot in my, just like you do, for military guys. You know? I, I've been to Iraq three times, Afghanistan once. You've done those tours, the 13 days you go-

Joe Rogan 1:02:01 I haven't. I haven't gone over there.

Diamond Dallas Page 1:02:01 Oh, you haven't done it yet?

Joe Rogan 1:02:02 No.

Diamond Dallas Page 1:02:03 Oh, but you should 'cause they would freak the fuck out over you. Um, they would love you. Uh, but I started in 2004 with that shit. And over that period-

Joe Rogan 1:02:12 Were you with Ryan Williams when he was getting shot down?

Diamond Dallas Page 1:02:14 Oh, no (laughs) , no, no, no, no.

Joe Rogan 1:02:16 Really? So you never got shot down? (laughs)

Diamond Dallas Page 1:02:18 No. I just, you know-

Joe Rogan 1:02:19 You know that story?

Diamond Dallas Page 1:02:19 ... I hate ... No, I did not. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:21 He faked his, his ... Well, I'm sorry to interrupt you.

Diamond Dallas Page 1:02:23 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:24 Go ahead.

Diamond Dallas Page 1:02:24 The bottom line is I g- I have a fond spot for those guys.

Joe Rogan 1:02:27 Yes, and I- I as I do as well.

Diamond Dallas Page 1:02:28 And I have something ... Yeah, I know. And there's, is something I'm about to do off of my app that's gonna be life-changing for a lot of those guys. I just don't have it all put together yet, but it's a, it's one of the things that I'm working on right now 'cause I wanna be able to give back to help them. I do stuff with their organizations there. You know, the people start them. Like I just did one with Ma Duce Deuce in, um, in, um, New Jersey where I'm from. Like I live in Point Pleasant, Bricktown's the next town over. And I went over there and I did one for the guys there and it wa- you know, I had like 75 guys there and guys and their families. And, uh, every one of those disabled vets, I gave them the app. You know? Because I just want you to do it 'cause if you do it, you're gonna feel better. I don't know how much better, how much work you're gonna put in.

Joe Rogan 1:03:15 Right.

Diamond Dallas Page 1:03:15 And you know it all comes down to the work ethic.

Joe Rogan 1:03:17 Like where you are, how much work you put in, what can you get.

Diamond Dallas Page 1:03:20 Right. And where i- I... My program meets you where you are. And that's the whole thing with Jerry, to watch where he is. And on the last episode, I won't tell you what happened 'cause I know eventually you'll get around to it and you're gonna be like, "Wow, this fucking shit's crazy." And for, to answer your question on the back, all's I can think of is I am constantly lengthening and strengthening.

Joe Rogan 1:03:43 Mm-hmm.

Diamond Dallas Page 1:03:43 Like I stretched my whole wrestling, my whole athletic career right up till I was 42 and, and three quarters when I blew my back out, I stretch. So stretching is great but it's not the end all be all. I'm stretching and strengthening the muscles, ligaments, and tendons. When you use the resistance in a dynamic time under tension, when you do that, it elevates your heart rate. Think about this. You're at the, uh, laying down, your heart rate's the lowest ever, right? Sit up. What happens? Your heart rate goes up. Stand, walk, jog, sprint. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. That's what I'm doing when I had you flex your quads, flex your glutes, grab the ball, open those fingers wide, move with resistance. I'll guarantee your heart rate, if you started at 80, it went to 105, 115, 120. I can take my heart rate from 90 to 140, uh, 135 like that. (snaps fingers) And I mean in two minutes, standing still. And that's not yoga.

Joe Rogan 1:04:44 Mm-hmm.

Diamond Dallas Page 1:04:44 That's DDPY. And I've been wearing a heart monitor doing this for over 18 years. That's-

Joe Rogan 1:04:50 So it's, it's more physically intensive.

Diamond Dallas Page 1:04:52 It can be.

Joe Rogan 1:04:53 It's more, it's more strain-

Diamond Dallas Page 1:04:54 It can be.

Joe Rogan 1:04:55 Can-

Diamond Dallas Page 1:04:55 Like I said, I did 10 10-second pushups, almost 6-second burpees. I've done.

Joe Rogan 1:04:58 But y- so you, but you still haven't got an MRI done since the injury?

Diamond Dallas Page 1:05:02 Not since the, not since I've done it.

Joe Rogan 1:05:02 So you just figure, "Fuck it. It feels great." Why?

Diamond Dallas Page 1:05:04 Why? Why would I pay for that? (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:05 I also would like to see what it is because I, I know that there, it is possible to gain some space and-

Diamond Dallas Page 1:05:11 Oh, I believe it has to be there.

Joe Rogan 1:05:13 Yeah.

Diamond Dallas Page 1:05:13 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:05:13 Well, they, they've done it with decompression.

Diamond Dallas Page 1:05:15 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:05:15 They've done it with, uh, you know, various exercises and things that people do, that do lengthen the spine and stretch you out.

Diamond Dallas Page 1:05:22 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:05:22 And there's a, I have a bunch of things out back, I'll show you some of the things that they, that people have created to, to decompress the spine. You know, do you ever use one of those Teeter things-

Diamond Dallas Page 1:05:30 I have one.

Joe Rogan 1:05:30 ... where you hang from your ankles?

Diamond Dallas Page 1:05:31 Yes.

Joe Rogan 1:05:32 Yeah. Those help a lot.

Diamond Dallas Page 1:05:33 I, I literally get out of my hy- ... All right. The hyperbaric chamber, let's talk about that for a minute.

Joe Rogan 1:05:36 Yeah, please.

Diamond Dallas Page 1:05:37 What do you, what do you know about those?

Joe Rogan 1:05:38 I've never done it, but I've heard amazing things from UFC guys that have, uh, fought and had pretty significant injuries, handbrakes, muscle damage and gotten uh, had some pretty s- pretty rapid recovery because of it.

Diamond Dallas Page 1:05:51 My, my, my doctor who ... She's my endocrinologist. When I told her what I was doing, and she goes, "Well, Dallas," like, "I, I, I can tell you, I, I know it can only help you." She goes, "The only story I have about it," 'cause I don't know enough about it, she said, "I had a woman who had, um, radiation therapy, so she had an open wound from her breast cancer and it wouldn't close for over two years."

Joe Rogan 1:06:14 Ugh.

Diamond Dallas Page 1:06:14 Pu- sent her down to Emory finally, put her in a hyperbaric chamber, three months later, 100% healed. Same thing happens with people with diabetes. So I had heard like LeBron had it, you know, 'cause I don't, I never saw an article on it, but I just heard some people talking about it, you know, in different areas, that he had one, Kobe had one.

Joe Rogan 1:06:31 They have them in their house?

Diamond Dallas Page 1:06:32 That's what I heard. I don't know if they do or they don't.

Joe Rogan 1:06:34 Wow.

Diamond Dallas Page 1:06:34 Um, I just heard it. So it got me thinking, in a ... My house that I was just, I just left, it's called the accountability crib and I'm about to put this out there everywhere. It's when I moved Jake into my home in Atlanta, I had just bought it, and it was all about being accountability. One of my friends, Christina Anne, uh, sent me a list of names. I wanna call this something. I put it out there on the internet, and she sent me like 22 names and one of them was the accountability crib. So that's what I called it, DDP's accountability crib, and you, you gotta be accountable for everything. And the thing I, I loved that home but it was 22 steps, you know, to get (laughs) to my bedroom and my knees are bone on bone, so going down was a drag. So I figured, "Fuck it." I'm gonna buy a new home, master on main, and I'm gonna build this, you know, I'll have this place that I can bring in top end athletes that wanna be healed. You know? So going back to, um, the crib, I'm making that like an Airbnb now and it'll have like the Jake The Snake Roberts suite, the, um, uh, the, uh, Razor Ramon suite, the DDP suite. You know, so th- that'll be pretty cool. That's gonna happen next week. We're gonna-

Joe Rogan 1:07:40 This is LeBron-

Diamond Dallas Page 1:07:41 ... rig that up.

Joe Rogan 1:07:41 ... getting into his hyperbaric chamber-

Diamond Dallas Page 1:07:43 Oh, okay. Great.

Joe Rogan 1:07:44 ... and zipping up. Why doesn't LeBron shave his head? What's going on with that? Someone explain that. There's some, so much fuckery going on with his hair.

Diamond Dallas Page 1:07:50 Wow. Okay, that looks f- a lot-But mine, I- I- I would venture to say that he is not at 12 PSI on that thing. And what that means is pounds per square inch. If you're like 10... Let's say, 10 feet below sea level.

Joe Rogan 1:08:06 Mm-hmm.

Diamond Dallas Page 1:08:06 That's about four pounds per square inch. You get... And then it just goes up. 20 would be like eight- eight, you know, pound per square inch. At 12 pounds per square inch, the pressure is there and takes like 10 minutes to get up there, like you're blowing your nose, like (imitates blow nose) , you know, like just getting the air, getting your... You know, fix your ears and all that shit. But what happens when you get to 12 PSI, now it breaks the brain barrier and the oxygen will go to your brain. So, this is... I didn't know any of this shit till I sat next to a guy named Brad Campbell, who's like an angel, this cat. And we just start talking on the plane and at some point I said, "Man, how old are you anyway? It sounds like you do a lot of shit." And he says... I'm thinking he looks at the max 45, maybe 40. He goes, "I'm 57." I go, "You're 57." I said, "How the fuck do you look like that?" He said, "I've been living in a hyperbaric chamber for the last 14 years."

Joe Rogan 1:09:01 Oh, he's a weirdo.

Diamond Dallas Page 1:09:02 Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:09:03 Keep that guy away from me. (laughs)

Diamond Dallas Page 1:09:04 Wait a minute. All right. I said,