Joe Rogan Experience #1174 - Vinnie Paz

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   ... (laughs) …

   1. VPVinnie Paz0:00

      ... (laughs)

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:02

      If they don't fuck up, I don't trust them.

   3. VPVinnie Paz0:04

      I... My father, my father used to say-

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Who-

   5. VPVinnie Paz0:06

      ... if, if someone doesn't say the word "fuck," or if their name is an initial, don't trust them.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      Yeah, that's a ch- creepy one. Initials are creepy.

   7. VPVinnie Paz0:14

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      But you never know. It's like, it's not a hard fast rule.

   9. VPVinnie Paz0:18

      No, I give everyone the fair shake, but I'm looking-

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:20

       Yeah. Hmm.

   11. VPVinnie Paz0:21

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:22

       If they frickin', if they're, all the time, it's frickin' this and frick-

   13. VPVinnie Paz0:25

       Or Mickey Ficky.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       Yeah.

   15. VPVinnie Paz0:26

       I heard that one time.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       Oh, I never heard that one.

   17. VPVinnie Paz0:28

       Yeah, someone said, "Mickey Ficky."

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       Instead of motherfucker.

   19. VPVinnie Paz0:29

       Yeah, I wasn't happy about it.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       "Shut the front door" is one, like, moms like to do around their kids.

   21. VPVinnie Paz0:34

       Yes. Yes.

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       Yeah.

   23. VPVinnie Paz0:35

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       Hmm. Yeah.

   25. VPVinnie Paz0:37

       I come from a Wobbesau, Philly family, so it's like a fucking Richard Pryor...

   26. JRJoe Rogan0:42

       (laughs)

   27. VPVinnie Paz0:42

       You know? Uh, uh, uh, uh it's the seven fishes on Christmas Eve is like a Richard... Is like, uh, R- him on the Sunset Strip.

   28. JRJoe Rogan0:48

       You know who surprisingly doesn't swear? Teddy Atlas.

   29. VPVinnie Paz0:52

       I know Teddy doesn't... I, I, I, I've seen... You know how animated he... I don't have to tell you.

   30. JRJoe Rogan0:56

       He gets very animated.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yes. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

   2. VPVinnie Paz15:00

      Yes.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      "And then there's some, there's some pitfalls in the way I analyze things, and these people don't have those things. And then my vocabulary is stunted. Maybe I should increase my vocabulary."

   4. VPVinnie Paz15:09

      Sure.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:09

      "Maybe I should start reading more or reading the things." And that, it just, w- with most people, it's, it's the same thing as with fitness. It's the amount of how much time you put in for how long.

   6. VPVinnie Paz15:18

      Right.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:19

      And that's the same thing with your intellect. It's the same thing with your emotional stability. It's how much energy and effort and focus have you put into it and for how long?

   8. VPVinnie Paz15:27

      Yeah, of course.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:28

      Yeah.

   10. VPVinnie Paz15:29

       But, like, like you said, though, to be around someone like him, it, you're naturally gonna fall into a, a line of thinking where, "Wow, this guy's got a lot of shit." (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:40

       Right.

   12. VPVinnie Paz15:41

       His understanding of the... Hi- his calmness, man, it's like, it's just, I, I can't see that guy being rattled. I've watched debates and he's just, he's so confident in, in what he believes.

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:55

       Yeah.

   14. VPVinnie Paz15:55

       You know what I'm saying?

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:56

       Well, he's thought things through.

   16. VPVinnie Paz15:57

       Clearly.

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:58

       He's not, he's not a silly person, you know.

   18. VPVinnie Paz15:59

       I mean, I think I am, so that's the problem there.

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:01

       Yeah, I am, too.

   20. VPVinnie Paz16:02

       Yeah, I'm a nitwit.

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:03

       (laughs)

   22. VPVinnie Paz16:03

       So watching him, it's, it's, you know, it's, um, it's humbling-

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:09

       Mm-hmm.

   24. VPVinnie Paz16:09

       ... to watch someone like him that's got it together and has that level of understanding because I spend a lot of my life trying to get to that level of understanding. So to watch someone that's there-

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:21

       Yeah.

   26. VPVinnie Paz16:22

       ... it's like, uh, uh, it's just humbling that, uh, to, I, I, I'm just curious where he's gonna go because, uh, w- him being known to, to, you know, to uh- is relatively new.

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:33

       Mm-hmm.

   28. VPVinnie Paz16:33

       You know?

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:34

       Yeah.

   30. VPVinnie Paz16:34

       He's not, this isn't a guy who's been, you know. It's a couple of years, right? Like-
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   We've got to just…

   1. VPVinnie Paz30:00

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      We've got to just stop attacking people. I- like, she didn't... I believe... I talked to her on the phone, just me and her.

   3. VPVinnie Paz30:06

      Uh-huh.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:07

      She did not know that lady was Black.

   5. VPVinnie Paz30:09

      I bel- I, I believe she didn't know that.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:10

      When, when she, when she looked at that lady, she goes, "She looks Jewish. She looks like me."

   7. VPVinnie Paz30:13

      (laughs) Right.

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:13

      She... That's what she said.

   9. VPVinnie Paz30:14

      I believe you. (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:15

       I believe her too. I think she was just cracking a joke, fucked up on Ambien-

   11. VPVinnie Paz30:19

       Sure.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:19

       ... been drinking and smoking weed all night.

   13. VPVinnie Paz30:21

       Sure.

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:22

       And, but no one cares what her intent was.

   15. VPVinnie Paz30:24

       Right.

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:25

       All they care is, "I got a green light. That's a target."

   17. VPVinnie Paz30:27

       Sure.

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:27

       "We're gonna go in."

   19. VPVinnie Paz30:29

       Well, here's my issue with the mo- the modern, the modern left, is...... is they talk compassion, but they don't, they pounce.

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:38

       Yeah.

   21. VPVinnie Paz30:39

       It's, I feel like a man with no country now because-

   22. JRJoe Rogan30:41

       Me too.

   23. VPVinnie Paz30:42

       ... 'cause I don't, I don't, the modern left isn't something that I gravitate towards and neither is the right. And when I grew, was growing up and listening to Public Enemy, you know, and, and that left of, uh, uh, uh, it changed, it changed and I didn't.

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:01

       Mm-hmm.

   25. VPVinnie Paz31:02

       So-

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:03

       Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   27. VPVinnie Paz31:03

       ... and you, and you have these people, um, I, I don't know where I'm, I stand anymore, man. It's like-

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:10

       Well, I think there's a, there's rational, left-leaning people that are against discrimination and for welfare and for foo-... Uh, look, I was on welfare when I was a kid. If people say I shouldn't be on welfare, well, what the fuck, man?

   29. VPVinnie Paz31:24

       Right.

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:24

       Uh, my parents were on welfare.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   (sighs) …

   1. VPVinnie Paz45:00

      is no Twitter and I didn't even know what it... I, I went to a doctor, told him what happened, he was like, "Oh, it was, it was what you smoked." You know-

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:08

      (sighs)

   3. VPVinnie Paz45:08

      ... "Don't, don't do that again." And it never left. And then I get these epis... I'll, I'll be in the shower on tour in the Czech Republic, washing my hair, closing my eyes, and I'll open them and not know where I'm at. No clue where I'm at and I'll feel like I'm floating outside of my body. Could... You know when you would hear the stories of people dying in an out-of-body experience?

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:28

      Yeah.

   5. VPVinnie Paz45:28

      That's li- literally my disorder.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:30

      I had an out-of-body experience once when I took salvia. It was like I was, I was, I was over here, like, floating above my... Pulsating-

   7. VPVinnie Paz45:38

      Were you scared?

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:38

      ... floating above myself. No, I was tripping balls. I didn't know what was wrong with me.

   9. VPVinnie Paz45:40

      Yes, I get... I, I think, I think it's it, like I'm doing the Fred G. Sanford, Elizabeth, I'm coming to see you. I think I'm-

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:47

       When you hear those, uh, those drug stories where a guy gets fucked up for like a year, those scare the shit out of me.

   11. VPVinnie Paz45:52

       Well, it happened to me.

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:53

       Marc Maron was telling us about that, like he did coke with Sam Kinison for like a couple of days, they didn't sleep, and he was fucked up for a year.

   13. VPVinnie Paz46:00

       See-

   14. JRJoe Rogan46:00

       For a whole year he heard voices.

   15. VPVinnie Paz46:02

       I would trade being fucked up for a year to do coke with Sam Kinison. (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan46:08

       (laughs)

   17. NANarrator46:09

       (laughs)

   18. VPVinnie Paz46:09

       No, but it's what... It ha- It was like, it was like 18 months of my life.

   19. JRJoe Rogan46:12

       Yeah.

   20. VPVinnie Paz46:12

       And, yo, how do you tell your Italian mother that?

   21. JRJoe Rogan46:15

       No, you can't. You gotta keep your mouth shut.

   22. VPVinnie Paz46:16

       And when you come from that culture, man, like my family, like old school Italians, they don't believe in mental... You have, you have to see it.

   23. JRJoe Rogan46:24

       Right.

   24. VPVinnie Paz46:24

       They believe in cancer because they see it destroy your body.

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:26

       Right.

   26. VPVinnie Paz46:27

       If you say, "I'm bipolar, I'm depres-..." Do you know what I'm saying?

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:30

       Right.

   28. VPVinnie Paz46:30

       Like, "I'm diagnosed depressed, I'm diagnosed DPD, I take medication for it." That still isn't enough for these people.

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:37

       Right.

   30. VPVinnie Paz46:38

       It's, it's the shake it off.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:07:13

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      Yeah.

   2. VPVinnie Paz1:00:00

      Wow.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      Yeah.

   4. VPVinnie Paz1:00:00

      You know he's a Philly guy, right?

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:01

      Oh, yeah.

   6. VPVinnie Paz1:00:02

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:03

      Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

   8. VPVinnie Paz1:00:03

      Okay. Um, but yeah, w- what you were, like... There's also a level, uh, o- guilt though in cutting some of these people off that you were talking about.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:12

      Yeah.

   10. VPVinnie Paz1:00:12

       That's kind of hard for me-

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:13

       Yeah.

   12. VPVinnie Paz1:00:13

       ... because, like, loyalty is a big thing too when you're talking about all these p-

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:17

       You got to tell them.

   14. VPVinnie Paz1:00:18

       ... these pa- No, they don't listen.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:19

       Well, then you got to tell them again. Then-

   16. VPVinnie Paz1:00:21

       Then-

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:21

       If they don't listen, then you got to cut them off and you go, "Look, I told you."

   18. VPVinnie Paz1:00:24

       That's what's happening now, but I still... It's st- it eats at me. I feel bad, like I should be... Like, uh, it's a savior complex.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:31

       Mm-hmm.

   20. VPVinnie Paz1:00:31

       You know what I'm saying?

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:00:32

       I know.

   22. VPVinnie Paz1:00:33

       Tha- that, ah, I don't want anyone to be fucked up, man. And I have a hard time being like, "Yo, this person is detrimental," and they, th- their... My energy is fucked up with them being in my life, but when it's time to cut them off, I still feel like, am I being a shitty person by doing that?

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:00:53

       Yeah, well, that's what they want you to think 'cause they don't take care of themselves.

   24. VPVinnie Paz1:00:56

       Right.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:00:57

       Like, you got to take care of yourself before I take care of you. I mean, you got to at least want to.

   26. VPVinnie Paz1:01:00

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:00

       I'll help you if you want to.

   28. VPVinnie Paz1:01:01

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:02

       But if you're not taking care of yourself and you want me to do it for you, hey, hey, you got to get your own shit together first.

   30. VPVinnie Paz1:01:08

       Yeah.

Episode duration: 2:54:54