EVERY SPOKEN WORD
150 min read · 30,002 words- 0:00 – 15:00
... go see a…
- NGNikki Glaser
... go see a boxing match.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- NGNikki Glaser
He doesn't even want that to be the-
- JRJoe Rogan
Three, two, one. We live? Uh, we're live. Yeah, we were just talking about, uh, Sober October and, uh, Ari Shpier and the, the speculation that he may be, in fact, uh, doing ... running some shenanigans.
- NGNikki Glaser
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
We do not know.
- NGNikki Glaser
There ... it seems to be shenanigans at play here, but he's ... he went too strong the first day. I just don't ... I don't believe that you could sustain that amount of ... that heart rate for that long.
- JRJoe Rogan
He was at 80 plus. It's interesting looking at his graph, 'cause he was at 80-plus percent of his max heart rate for more than an hour and 20 minutes, which, uh ... Look, he might just be trying to kill himself. It, it ... He's got a strong will.
- NGNikki Glaser
Does he?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- NGNikki Glaser
I know-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- NGNikki Glaser
... he's shifty.
- JRJoe Rogan
Sh- (laughs)
- NANarrator
(laughs)
- NGNikki Glaser
And honest. Like, the thing is, he is-
- JRJoe Rogan
How can he be shifty and honest?
- NGNikki Glaser
He's ... That's the ... He ... 'Cause he'll eventually come out with, "This is what I did and of course-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- NGNikki Glaser
... I did that. You guys knew I was doing it the whole time." That's what he'll say, but I-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a good impression of Ari. (laughs)
- NGNikki Glaser
Yeah. Thank you. Oh, come on. Yeah. Of course. Of course I was gonna do that.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- NGNikki Glaser
So yeah, but he is shifty and hon- ... Like, he, he, he-
- JRJoe Rogan
He's a prankster.
- NGNikki Glaser
He's a prankster. He's definitely gonna do some weird stuff to get ahead in this, but he also knows he's gonna lose, too.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- NGNikki Glaser
He's-
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you know what he did in Ligion- Legion of Skanks?
- NGNikki Glaser
No. Oh, God.
- 15:00 – 30:00
(laughs) …
- NGNikki Glaser
I was the worst. My worst fear did happen. I got made fun of on TV. I got eliminated first. And you know, like, being on a reality show, like have you done a reality show where it's like, "And the next to le- ... The first, the first contestant eliminated from the show." And then there's ... Dun-dun. And there's a spotlight on you and I'm staring at the stage like ... Just a slat in the stage. I'm just staring there being like, "They're gonna say Nikki and Gleb. They're gonna say Nikki and Gleb." And they ... "Nikki and Gle-" And it was just like, "I'm on a reality show right now getting eliminated." It was so surreal and it sucked.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- NGNikki Glaser
And it's ... It sucked. And I'm still f- o-obviously very much feeling it. And I loved the sh- ... I wanted to like keep going. I wanted to do different dances. I like was ready to really ... 'Cause I had just learned how to learn how to dance.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- NGNikki Glaser
So I had to learn how to learn how to d- 'Cause I'd never danced before in my life, never learned the Macarena. Like I was ... I took myself out of any kind of dancing, uh, uh, that was offered to me in school because I was just like, "I'm a bad dancer. I don't want anyone to make fun of me. I'll never dance." And I sign up for this show, I learn a dance, I nail it as much as I can nail something. I was very proud of myself. And then I get eliminated and it, it really ... Obviously I'm like still ... I'm just-
- JRJoe Rogan
Has anybody ever done it two years in a row?
- NGNikki Glaser
I would love to do it t- I was almost ... No. But I-
- JRJoe Rogan
Why don't you start taking dancing lessons?
- NGNikki Glaser
I would love to.
- JRJoe Rogan
Why don't you do that and then come back next year and shove it up that British guy's ass?
- NGNikki Glaser
I don't think they'd want me back.
- JRJoe Rogan
I bet they would.
- NGNikki Glaser
I-
- JRJoe Rogan
I bet they have a hard time getting people to do that show.
- NGNikki Glaser
Why did they let me go so soon then, Joe?
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- NANarrator
(laughs)
- NGNikki Glaser
Because it didn't feel (laughs) like it was because of my dancing. It felt ... You know when a, when you get eliminated from one of these shows that you just go, "Ugh, they don't ... Someone at the top doesn't like me. There's something else-
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- NGNikki Glaser
... involved here. It's not America."
- JRJoe Rogan
That might be your own head though.
- NGNikki Glaser
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That might be your own head.
- NGNikki Glaser
I mean it's ... It's probably just m- ... But out of 13 people, they liked me the least.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, maybe, just be- being honest-
- NGNikki Glaser
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... you had the worst performance.
- NGNikki Glaser
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Isn't that possible? I mean, you, you, you don't da- look. I-
- NGNikki Glaser
I did not.
- 30:00 – 45:00
Oh, that's a really…
- JRJoe Rogan
right? Like, some guys like blow jobs from someone who seems like they've never done it before. That way they don't feel like they're the 90th in line.
- NGNikki Glaser
Oh, that's a really good point, Joe.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- NGNikki Glaser
Like, you could be into a blow job that's kind of apprehensive and like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- NGNikki Glaser
... "What am I doing?" Because that-
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, what are you ... How does this work? Yeah.
- NGNikki Glaser
They have, like, a virginal-type situation.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, like an act. Yeah, she's putting on an act. She's got pigtails on.
- NGNikki Glaser
I just-
- JRJoe Rogan
A schoolgirl outfit. "What am I doing?"
- NGNikki Glaser
"Wait, what are you tea- what do you do with this?"
- JRJoe Rogan
"Are you sure?"
- NGNikki Glaser
Oh, my God, my friend recently, 'cause we've talked a lot ab- me and my friend have talked a lot about how we just are insecure that we're bad at blow jobs and we've taken classes at Babeland or all these things-
- JRJoe Rogan
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait-
- NGNikki Glaser
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. They t- they give out classes-
- NGNikki Glaser
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... on how to give blow jobs? Who's teaching the classes, girls or guys?
- NGNikki Glaser
Uh, I think it was, like, a gay guy and-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's the move.
- NGNikki Glaser
... a woman together.
- JRJoe Rogan
A gay guy.
- NGNikki Glaser
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's what I was thinking. A gay guy should know how to suck a dick, 'cause he has one.
- NGNikki Glaser
I've r- read everything. I've watched tutorials. I just, it's just not getting through to me. I just-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- NGNikki Glaser
I haven't ... I try ... And I'm not, like, bad at them. Like, I, I, I don't think I'm d- I'm bad at them, but I just ... I think I always was apprehensive because I think the first thing I heard about blow jobs was that ... The first complaint I would hear around me was too much teeth. And I've always had, like, really big teeth. And so, I'm like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Let me see you smile.
- NGNikki Glaser
I have big teeth.
- 45:00 – 1:00:00
It'd be fun? (laughs)…
- NGNikki Glaser
thoughts, not like, "I sh- I should kill myself." It's like, "Kill yourself. It would be fun to kill yourself." They come-
- JRJoe Rogan
It'd be fun? (laughs)
- NGNikki Glaser
Literally soothing. It soothes me to think about killing myself when I'm in my worst, uh, depressive stages. And it is a- I compare it to, like, sniffles when you're getting a cold. Like, I have a little, a little thought will go, "Oh, shoot yourself in the head."
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoa.
- NGNikki Glaser
Like, it literally comes into my head like a sniffle, where you're like, "Oh, God. I'm getting sick again. Okay, I gotta meditate now, and then it'll, and then I'll be fine." Like literally, it's like that. And-
- JRJoe Rogan
What, what is, what's before the, "Shoot yourself"? Nothing?
- NGNikki Glaser
Nothing. And that's the-
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoa.
- NGNikki Glaser
... that's the problem, is like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Geez.
- NGNikki Glaser
... it just is ... You know, it can be, it can be, um, pff ... It may be it's circumstantial a little bit, like maybe I'm feeling lonely that day, or, uh, uh, I didn't get a thing that I wanted, or I ... Uh, but I really do think it's like the weather. Like, it, I just can't even describe it. I remember Sarah Silverman talking about her depression, like it's like just a cloud comes over you, and you're just like, "Oh, well, here it comes," and that's kind of how it feels. And I totally have it under control when I'm meditating every day. It doesn't, I don't get a single one of those thoughts.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- NGNikki Glaser
But, like, if I skip a day, if I don't do TM one day, those thoughts keep, they come in. And then if I ... And then you c- if you get into a real bad spot, you, those thoughts start ... I, and I've never even so much as made an attempt or even planned to make an attempt. Like, it's never gotten to that, even close to that for me. But, I realize that these are the same kinda thoughts that people that end up doing this start with.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- NGNikki Glaser
Like, there's some kind of, like ... I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm ... People who love me and care about me get so upset when I talk about this, but I think that more people struggle with these thoughts than talk about, so I, I'm eager to share it, because I don't think I'm ever gonna kill myself, and I don't think that that's ... But I think that, like a lot of people, I'm at risk, and I don't think that people talk about that enough.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right. Mm-hmm.
- NGNikki Glaser
That, 'cause I do have these thoughts, and I g- it's not even like I go, "What can I do to make myself feel better? Oh, I could kill myself." It literally is like, "Kill yourself." It's like a little voice or something. And I've struggled with mental illness before. I mean, I had anorexia where it was like, "Don't eat," and you're like, "Where's that? Who's that?" But it's s- it's a voice.
- JRJoe Rogan
Did you have, "Don't eat," because you thought you were overweight, or, "Don't eat," because you thought you'd be more attractive if you looked like-
- NGNikki Glaser
Oh, I mean-
- JRJoe Rogan
... a, a, a rail?
- NGNikki Glaser
Y- I mean, it starts-
- JRJoe Rogan
Or was it, was it vague?
- NGNikki Glaser
It's-
- JRJoe Rogan
Was the direction vague, or was it just, like, a, an obsession?
- NGNikki Glaser
It, it was, it started out, like, you know, um, high school. I should be skinny. Everyone should be skinny. I admi- I, like, wanted to be a, famous someday, and I looked at, I admi- like, I idolized everyone in the magazines, the whole classic thing of, like, looking literally in magazines and being like, "I wanna look like that. I hate my s-" pinching my sides, being like, uh, "If I'm not like that, then I'm worthless." Having a mom who constantly hated her body, m- was skinnier than me and s- constantly said she was fat, and things like that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- NGNikki Glaser
Like, where you just, you have things modeled for you, so I grew up thinking skinny equals more lovable. And then I lost weight just b- because, um, my senior year I lost weight because a boy liked me that I liked, who I liked back, and I was, like, very nervous about it. Like, you know when you just get nervous-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- NGNikki Glaser
... so you d- you can't, you don't eat that day? And I had a date with this guy. It was my first date ever, and I just, that day, I didn't eat 'cause I was just nervous. And then the next day, it showed up on me, 'cause someone goes, "You look great. What's going on?" And I was like, "Oh, I just didn't eat yesterday." Like, "I can do that again."
- JRJoe Rogan
So, it's basically the same thing as saying, "You're really funny."
- 1:00:00 – 1:04:26
Mm. …
- NGNikki Glaser
that are really painful to me, and I think that it- when I am dealing with something like that on stage, I think the pain still shows, and I can't be funny with it yet 'cause I'm still so angry. I think I'm still just, like, angry-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm.
- NGNikki Glaser
... about it because I also feel like I'm still a victim to, um, body dysmorphia, like crazy. Like, that's my new thing, where, like, I'll just see something in the mirror then I'm like, "Well, yesterday you felt the opposite." Like, what, I'll go from, in a 24-hour s- time frame, from being like, "You're fat." I'll like s- f- look in the mirror and be like, "You're fat." And then the next day I'll be like, "You're too thin." And I'm like, "Well, those two things can't be possible within 24 hours of themselves, so you're crazy."
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- NGNikki Glaser
So that, I mean, I'm still dealing with stuff like that, and I wanna be on the other side of it and be able to tell girls, like, "You're beautiful and your body doesn't matter, and it's what's up here that counts."
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- NGNikki Glaser
But I don't, and I'm not, I'm not there yet, so I don't know how to g- to, to really talk about it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, I don't think, I don't think there's one way, you know? I think everybody's got their own weird thing that's causing them to have issues, whether it's, uh, be, to be an alcoholic or to be addicted to whatever you're addicted to.
- NGNikki Glaser
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
There, everybody, it's, there's no one, you- you have to figure out the person and then figure out how this disease, or whatever it is, has sort of interfaced with that person. And what is it that happened to you that made this, this thing attractive, where it fits into your slots and, and, and distracts you from all the things that are freaking you the fuck out about your existence?
- NGNikki Glaser
Yeah. I mean, it is-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- NGNikki Glaser
... a coping mechanism.
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, that's, if it was so simple that, like, "Oh, when people are anorexic, you tell them this." And then they go, "Oh, okay." I mean, if there was, like, a protocol that you could just-... establish right away, "Oh, you just gotta take these steps and then you'll be fixed." It doesn't work. And they-
- NGNikki Glaser
I know.
- JRJoe Rogan
... might work for some people. You know what, it would, really doesn't help, you know, it doesn't help that it's so prevalent. Like there's so many people that have issu-... Like, and the other way too, like there's people that are bodybuilders that are crazy that can't, they, they-
- NGNikki Glaser
It's the same thing.
- JRJoe Rogan
... can't get big enough. It's the same thing.
- NGNikki Glaser
It is the same thing.
- JRJoe Rogan
Or girls with giant fake boobs.
- NGNikki Glaser
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That they think they need triple F boobs. Like the, the way people see themselves versus the way other people see them is very strange.
- NGNikki Glaser
(sighs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. You know what I've been watching? The show Botched. Have you ever watched that show?
- NGNikki Glaser
Oh, yeah. I've watched that show.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ooh! Holy shit.
- NGNikki Glaser
I mean, that's the same... They don't-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, same thing.
- NGNikki Glaser
... they don't, they don't know what they're seeing.
- JRJoe Rogan
They don't know what's going on.
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