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Joe Rogan Experience #1182 - Nick Kroll

Nick Kroll is an actor, comedian, writer, and producer. Check out the new season of his animated series "Big Mouth" available now on Netflix.

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Oct 9, 20182h 23mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:0015:00

    Five, four, three, two...…

    1. JR

      Five, four, three, two... Hello, Nick.

    2. NK

      (laughs) Hi, Joe. How you doing?

    3. JR

      S- sorry for the delay.

    4. NK

      (laughs)

    5. JR

      We had a, a failure, ladies and gentlemen. A catastrophic failure of Windows updating. It sort of, uh, updated and hung on the, the TriCaster, but we're back.

    6. NK

      And it seems to be fine. Ev- everything's working.

    7. JR

      Allegedly.

    8. NK

      (laughs)

    9. JR

      Allegedly. We'll see.

    10. NK

      There's that, there's that fear when you're like, "Fuck, I'm turning off the update. I'm gonna start again."

    11. JR

      Yeah.

    12. NK

      Then you lose everything.

    13. JR

      That is the one annoying thing. We were talking about this before the podcast. I s- I've been using Windows to write on, and I like, uh, the ThinkPad. I really like it. I love the keyboard, it's great to write on. But Windows updates, like, two or three times a day sometimes. Not just Windows, but, like, Lenovo will update, and there's some s- firmware update, and a BIOS update.

    14. NK

      Adobe Acrobat's checking in.

    15. JR

      Yeah.

    16. NK

      Wanna know if we can-

    17. JR

      Bit Defender updates.

    18. NK

      (laughs) Yeah, the, uh... I haven't used a ThinkPad. They, they got the... Still have that little, like, clip right in the middle?

    19. JR

      Still got the little clip.

    20. NK

      (laughs)

    21. JR

      I don't use it-

    22. NK

      No.

    23. JR

      ... but it's there. I guess it's for people that have been using it forever.

    24. NK

      Right.

    25. JR

      It's very accurate if you do use it.

    26. NK

      Right.

    27. JR

      It's like one of those things where you're just sorta used to muscle memory or used to doing it, and then they touch the other buttons with their thumb.

    28. NK

      Right, g- they can still do shit. And it has the mouse at the, the keypad.

    29. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    30. NK

      I mean, it's so... It's-

  2. 15:0030:00

    Oh, yeah. …

    1. NK

      put myself on tape in New York.

    2. JR

      Oh, yeah.

    3. NK

      You can hear the, you can hear the... (mimics static)

    4. JR

      Yeah. (laughs)

    5. NK

      And I would try to shoot myself to fucking try to get a, you know, you know.

    6. JR

      There it is. That's what I had.

    7. NK

      Oh, wow.

    8. JR

      I had one of those things.

    9. NK

      And that's a, and it's one, (laughs) one megapixel.

    10. JR

      (laughs) It's a piece of shit.

    11. NK

      And it was probably, like, $2,000.

    12. JR

      Probably. Yeah. And before that, when I first came out here in 1994, uh, I had a meeting with this guy who was, like, one of the, the bigwigs at Disney. And he had a Newton. Do you remember a Newton?

    13. NK

      Y- yeah, vaguely.

    14. JR

      It was like a tablet. And he was all so happy about this. He had... All, all very organized on his Newton.

    15. NK

      (laughs)

    16. JR

      He had, like, this, this fucking... It was like a... He had a thesaurus with a screen. That's what it looked like, this big, stupid fucking thing. And it had, you know, a little stylus, and he was-

    17. NK

      It was this... Yeah.

    18. JR

      ... writing things on it.

    19. NK

      Was this in the years, like, between S-... when Jobs had gotten fired, and they were like... Or was he still there-

    20. JR

      Yeah. That was... I think that was when, right?

    21. NK

      ... in the lost years? I just saw a... Alan Alda just posted a thing on, uh, his old Atari commercials. I guess he was, like, the spokesman for Atari. And it's him talking about, "Atari, you could also use for word processing." And then also that they had, like, a very early tablet. He's like, "You can draw and paint on it." And I was like, "Shit, that's not bad, man."

    22. JR

      Yeah.

    23. NK

      This is, like, '84.

    24. JR

      Wow.

    25. NK

      And... Which I'm like, "I don't know what that was," but it was Atari, early Atari shit. You could paint and draw on it, I guess. I don't know.

    26. JR

      Well, they're... The things that they can do now, this- these new... Oh, look at this.

    27. NK

      Oh, yeah. There's-

    28. JR

      There's Alan Alda.

    29. NK

      Yeah.

    30. JR

      (laughs)

  3. 30:0045:00

    Right. …

    1. NK

      doing other comedians.

    2. JR

      Right.

    3. NK

      Like, there's some weird kinda code that I don't know what-

    4. JR

      Yeah, I know.

    5. NK

      You know what I mean?

    6. JR

      You feel like a dick, yeah.

    7. NK

      You feel like a dick. I try not to talk shit about comedian- it just, it's like, I- I don't know why. It's like... But I did it, it was one of my first gigs that was like, "Oh, cool, I got to be on American Dad!" I did Andy Dick. I, it was, uh, looking back, I would not-... probably do it now, where, you know-

    8. JR

      Did you do it over the top?

    9. NK

      I don't know. I just did Andy Dick.

    10. JR

      (laughs)

    11. NK

      I don't know, isn't Andy kind of over the top as he... You know what I mean? Like-

    12. JR

      Yeah.

    13. NK

      I did not mean... It was not being like, "Oh, I'm gonna go fucking get Andy Dick." But anyway, when I saw him, when I... Since then, I've seen him over the years and, and I like him and I think he... When he's sober, he's like, you know, "I saw your impression of me." And he's like-

    14. JR

      (laughs)

    15. NK

      And he's kind of like, "It's funny." You know? And then I've seen him drunk and he's like, "So," you know? It's like a very different-

    16. JR

      (laughs)

    17. NK

      It's a very different version of it.

    18. JR

      (sighs)

    19. NK

      And I'm like-

    20. JR

      (sighs)

    21. NK

      But, you know... But I get it, man. If someone did a fucking impression of me on some animated show, I don't know, I'd probably... I'm like, "No, I'll do the impression of me."

    22. JR

      Yeah.

    23. NK

      I'll do... Let me, let me control my narrative here.

    24. JR

      I think y- you gotta take your lumps.

    25. NK

      I guess so.

    26. JR

      If you're dishing them out, you gotta take your lumps. (laughs)

    27. NK

      Yeah. (laughs) Yeah. Well, 'cause then he's done it, you know? But if you go back and watch Stiller, the Stiller Show, he's funny as shit, man.

    28. JR

      Oh, that was a great show. People forgot about the Stiller Show.

    29. NK

      Yeah, t-

    30. JR

      That was a fucking great show.

  4. 45:001:00:00

    That's crazy. …

    1. JR

      up. I decided to sh- over the last couple of days, 'cause I took three days off t- 'cause I had to go to Vegas and I had to work. And then I decided, uh, yesterday, I'm gonna fuck these guys up. So yesterday and today, I've been hitting it hard. I did three and a half hours today. Yeah.

    2. NK

      That's crazy.

    3. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    4. NK

      Do you feel good? How do you-

    5. JR

      I feel great.

    6. NK

      Yeah. I mean, I ... yeah. And, and physically, do you feel different? Yeah, do you, you do or do not feel different, like, uh, being completely sober?

    7. JR

      Um, well, I'm definitely high as fuck from all this running.

    8. NK

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      There's no doubt about that. That's real. Like, runner's high is legit. Like, if you run for two hours and then a rock falls on your car from the sky, you'd be like, "Hmm, guess I lost my car."

    10. NK

      Right.

    11. JR

      (laughs)

    12. NK

      (laughs)

    13. JR

      You get so silly. It's, uh ... and I get the same way from yoga.

    14. NK

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      You get silly. You ... there's a silliness to you.

    16. NK

      Yeah. I, I don't ... I hate running so much. I fucking hate it. I'd rather go, like, uh, I started playing soccer again.

    17. JR

      Soccer's great.

    18. NK

      Yeah. Which-

    19. JR

      That's serious aerobic workout.

    20. NK

      That's intense. Like, I finished that ... My problem is I turn bright red as soon as I do anything with any ... and I'm, like, the color, like, a deep maroon.

    21. JR

      (laughs)

    22. NK

      And I'm like f- ... but it's great, but I need, I need a game attached to it.

    23. JR

      Yeah.

    24. NK

      I can't just run.

    25. JR

      That's why jujitsu is so good for me. That's what I love about jujitsu. You're doing something.

    26. NK

      Yes.

    27. JR

      You're trying to, you know, you- you're doing a martial art, and-

    28. NK

      Yeah.

    29. JR

      ... it's, it's exhausting.

    30. NK

      Yes.

  5. 1:00:001:05:26

    Ah. …

    1. JR

      for creating LSD, I think they were, they were trying to come up with a drug to induce labor.

    2. NK

      Ah.

    3. JR

      I'm pretty sure that was the r- original. I think that's what they were working on. And in the process, synthesized LSD. And LSD as a compound, and i- it's one of those unbelievably potent compounds, where someone, I think it was Terrence McKenna described it as the, the power to weight ratio is so huge that it's like if you had one ant that dismantled the Statue of Liberty in 30 minutes.

    4. NK

      (laughs)

    5. JR

      Like, that's how, that's how potent LSD is.

    6. NK

      Yeah. Well, I, I mean, I took, you know-

    7. JR

      He actually said the Empire State Building.

    8. NK

      Jesus.

    9. JR

      Yeah.

    10. NK

      I took a, I'd mean, I t- I took a, a responsible amount.

    11. JR

      Mm.

    12. NK

      Like I was like, "I don't need to like, lose my mind here."

    13. JR

      I've only micro dosed it.

    14. NK

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      Y- I've only ... Well, one, one time I doubled the micro- ... But still, it was a small dose.

    16. NK

      It-

    17. JR

      But it was enough to just like, "Mm, okay, there it is."

    18. NK

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      "I had planned the synthesis of the compound when the intention of obtaining a circulatory and respiratory stimulant," Hofmann wrote. "The new substance however arose no special interest in our pharmacologic s- pharmacologists and physicians. Testing was therefore discontinued."

    20. NK

      Huh.

    21. JR

      Hmm. Why did I think, uh-

    22. NK

      Maybe because he was on his bike.

    23. JR

      ... creation of lysergic acid. 25th attempt, aptly named-

    24. NK

      Wow.

    25. JR

      ... LSD 25.

    26. NK

      Not knowing, he was not after, like, a psychedelic drug experience.

    27. JR

      No, I don't believe so. No.

    28. NK

      Dosed at 4:20 PM, y'all. Look at him-

    29. JR

      Did he really?

    30. NK

      ... look at it go down. Look at that. Go down a little bit.

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