The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #1183 - Andrew Santino
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Sober October kickoff: whiskey taunts, coffee as AA, and points trash talk
- JRJoe Rogan
... s-
- ASAndrew Santino
Here we go, four-
- JRJoe Rogan
... three.
- ASAndrew Santino
... three.
- JRJoe Rogan
... two.
- ASAndrew Santino
... two... one.
- JRJoe Rogan
Let's get the sound of this popping off.
- ASAndrew Santino
I am back! Cito Santino, ladies and gentlemen.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- ASAndrew Santino
He just popped open a Maker's to taunt me-
- JRJoe Rogan
46.
- ASAndrew Santino
... through Sober October.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm. Can we... Let me, let me just do something so we can-
- ASAndrew Santino
Yeah, let me hear that. Let me hear that. Let me hear that. Oh, that does sound lovely. Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
(sighs) This one's for, uh-
- ASAndrew Santino
I can't wait.
- JRJoe Rogan
... this one's for Fat Bert and-
- ASAndrew Santino
What are we at right now?
- JRJoe Rogan
... for Ari.
- ASAndrew Santino
11. I have 20 days.
- JRJoe Rogan
(exhales) .
- ASAndrew Santino
20 days of sobriety. That ain't shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- ASAndrew Santino
I already did 11.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- ASAndrew Santino
But let me tell you something what I've learned from this. This is what we were talking about before the podcast started.
- JRJoe Rogan
(exhales) .
- ASAndrew Santino
You wanna hear me? I'm gonna pour some-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAndrew Santino
... coffee, like an alcoholic.
- 0:54 – 5:07
Training like a maniac: 2–3 hour workouts, machine circuits, and anxiety relief
- ASAndrew Santino
Um, one of the things that I realized is that if you work out like I'm working out, like fucking three hours a day-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAndrew Santino
... 'cause I'm trying, literally trying to kill Bert. I want Bert to try to keep up with me.
- JRJoe Rogan
You want him to die, though.
- ASAndrew Santino
Well, I'm trying to kill him.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAndrew Santino
Yeah, I'm trying to give him a heart attack. 'Cause you know what bothers me?
- JRJoe Rogan
(coughs) .
- ASAndrew Santino
What... This, this is all weed and there's mushrooms in here, and there's no cigars.
- JRJoe Rogan
No cigars. (laughs)
- ASAndrew Santino
Um, maybe in the other one.
- JRJoe Rogan
All good shit.
- JVJamie Vernon
No, man. They may not.
- ASAndrew Santino
Maybe.
- JVJamie Vernon
Maybe not.
- ASAndrew Santino
I might've taken them out of here.
- JVJamie Vernon
I don't know.
- JRJoe Rogan
The humidor.
- JVJamie Vernon
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
We're gonna get a huge humidor for you.
- ASAndrew Santino
A humidor.
- JRJoe Rogan
A humidor.
- ASAndrew Santino
Um, what I realized... This is why I'm trying to kill Bert.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAndrew Santino
He likes to pretend-
- JRJoe Rogan
That he's in shape?
- ASAndrew Santino
... that his effort... Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- ASAndrew Santino
That his effort is spectacular.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, no.
- 5:07 – 7:12
Raising the stakes: the missing Sober October “belt” and crowd-sourced design contest
- JRJoe Rogan
There should be something big, big on the line, though.
- ASAndrew Santino
Yeah, there's nothing on the line.
- JRJoe Rogan
I see sh-
- ASAndrew Santino
What about a belt?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, there should be something big on the line.
- ASAndrew Santino
We have to finalize that belt, Jamie.
- JVJamie Vernon
You need some good artwork, which-
- ASAndrew Santino
Yeah.
- JVJamie Vernon
... you have some, but-
- ASAndrew Santino
Yeah. Uh, folks, um, get at me on Instagram.
- JRJoe Rogan
Instagram.
- ASAndrew Santino
Use the hashtag... You know, use like #JoeRogan. Tag me. And if you win, I'll give you 500 bucks.
- JVJamie Vernon
Oh.
- ASAndrew Santino
Okay?
- JVJamie Vernon
Power move.
- JRJoe Rogan
Look at that. People are scrambling for fucking pens right now.
- ASAndrew Santino
So anybody, anybody who comes up with the, the best design, I'll give you 500 bucks. If I don't choose anybody, nobody gets shit. We- we'll have an artist try to-
- JRJoe Rogan
If you don't choose anybody, you burn the money. That's what Joe's gonna do.
- JVJamie Vernon
Yeah.
- ASAndrew Santino
I'll do that quick, too.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's gonna burn it.
- ASAndrew Santino
Uh, yeah, we need it quick. I have an artist that's trying to work on it, too, so there's a run. There's like a... There's a mad run here.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- ASAndrew Santino
But, um, the, um, the thing... What I was gonna say is-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAndrew Santino
... all bullshit aside and jokes, and I do love Bert.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- ASAndrew Santino
And I do love everybody else doing this.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're the best.
- ASAndrew Santino
But all jokes aside, I, I have, like, zero anxiety-... zero worry, zero stress. Like, when you burn your body out like that, do like two hours of working out a day, not... You know, I don't give a fuck about anything. Like I'm in traffic, people cut me off, I'm like-
- 7:12 – 12:52
Neighborhood “mountain lion” video: wildlife paranoia and identity satire
- ASAndrew Santino
There was a, "Is that a mountain lion? Is that a mountain lion? Is that a mountain-" There's a mountain lion in my neighborhood, by the way. This-
- JRJoe Rogan
There is?
- ASAndrew Santino
Yeah. The neighborhoods, uh, one of the neighbors spotted a mountain lion.
- JRJoe Rogan
You got your fucking bow out?
- ASAndrew Santino
They, uh... Good luck shooting a mountain lion with a bow.
- JRJoe Rogan
Be fun though, huh?
- ASAndrew Santino
Y- y- y- you'd have to... The odds of you shooting a mount- yeah. What is that that walks by that lady? Is that a cat?
- JVJamie Vernon
I don't-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a fucking... No, that's not a cat.
- JVJamie Vernon
People said it was a mountain lion because of how its tail popped up at-
- ASAndrew Santino
It looks like a mountain lion-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- JVJamie Vernon
... walking right by her.
- ASAndrew Santino
... but it's just way too casual walking by her.
- JRJoe Rogan
She doesn't give a fuck.
- JVJamie Vernon
She doesn't know what it is. She thought it was a dog.
- ASAndrew Santino
It's, it definitely looks like a cat.
- JRJoe Rogan
She thought it was a dog, huh?
- JVJamie Vernon
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It kinda looks like a dog.
- ASAndrew Santino
But it's, it's just way too calm the way it walks by her. That's not a wild cat.
- JRJoe Rogan
I think that's a dog, man.
- ASAndrew Santino
But it doesn't look like it.
- JRJoe Rogan
A dog, maybe a mountain lion. (laughs) Made its debut.
- ASAndrew Santino
Nobody knows what the fuck it is.
- JRJoe Rogan
Terrifying or not.
- ASAndrew Santino
Even wildlife experts are looking at that video and they're like, "The t-" See, like, I'm not a wildlife expert but I've seen a lot of wildlife.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- ASAndrew Santino
The tail does not look right. The tail looks like a cat.
- JRJoe Rogan
Does it?
- 12:52 – 20:04
Glamrou and quantum physics: peacocking, attention, and judgment vs. tolerance
- ASAndrew Santino
That picture that I posted on my Instagram about the British Iraqi genderqueer whatever the fuck he is. Look at this, "Quantum physics really helped me understand my queer identity. I'm British Iraqi, gay, non-binary and identify as Muslim."
- JVJamie Vernon
(laughs)
- ASAndrew Santino
That is real, by the way. There's a video ... If you go to, um, whose Instagram? Oh, James Woods posted it on his Twitter page. If you go to James Woods' Twitter page and he says ... Is that ... That's Ali G, right? That's what he says.
- JRJoe Rogan
That is funny.
- ASAndrew Santino
Yeah. Or, that's Sasha Baron Cohen.
- JRJoe Rogan
This is Sasha Baron Cohen.
- ASAndrew Santino
Yeah. If you go to his Twitter page and you find it from yesterday, that's where I saw it, and there's an actual video that goes along with it. Now, here's what's interesting. When you listen to this g- person, I don't wanna assume their gender.
- JRJoe Rogan
Some- Something. No, just say, "This something."
- ASAndrew Santino
When you listen to this something, it seems, uh, very intelligent, like a very intelligent person.
- JRJoe Rogan
Sure.
- JVJamie Vernon
He posts a lot.
- ASAndrew Santino
But ... Yeah, he posts a lot.
- JVJamie Vernon
(laughs)
- ASAndrew Santino
All James Woods does all day is just drink coffee and talk shit about liberals. Keep going down.
- JVJamie Vernon
I already ... It was past his yesterday already.
- ASAndrew Santino
Yeah, just keep going. It was, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
He's got some Kavanaugh mixed in. He's got some fake news mixed in.
- ASAndrew Santino
It's in there.
- JRJoe Rogan
I like beer.
- ASAndrew Santino
I guarantee you. How many days-
- JRJoe Rogan
I still like beer.
- JVJamie Vernon
Now, like, this is two days ago now.
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know why-
- ASAndrew Santino
Ah, keep going. It might be in there.
- JVJamie Vernon
Maybe delete it. Was it a response to someone?
- ASAndrew Santino
No, no, no. I don't think so. Ah, it might have been.
- JRJoe Rogan
There it is right there.
- JVJamie Vernon
There it is.
- ASAndrew Santino
Bam. Okay, go live.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- 20:04 – 21:53
Celebrity politics detour: Jay-Z/Kanye rumors and Kanye’s Trump strategy theory
- ASAndrew Santino
Jay-Z and Beyonce will no longer speak to Kanye and Kim Kardashian.
- JRJoe Rogan
Fact.
- JVJamie Vernon
When did they do it?
- ASAndrew Santino
According to the fucking fake news, bro.
- JVJamie Vernon
Nah, that's old news.
- JRJoe Rogan
Fake news.
- ASAndrew Santino
No, it's just out yesterday.
- JVJamie Vernon
Nah, nah, really?
- ASAndrew Santino
Yes, yesterday.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, yeah.
- JVJamie Vernon
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, they just printed it yesterday.
- ASAndrew Santino
They publicly disavowed Kanye West and Kim Kardashian because of his position on Trump.
- JVJamie Vernon
Oh, I didn't even realize-
- JRJoe Rogan
Jamie's gotta Google it.
- JVJamie Vernon
I was checking it out.
- JRJoe Rogan
But that, but, but you know what?
- ASAndrew Santino
I just checked it out. I don't believe this.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. (laughs)
- JVJamie Vernon
(laughs)
- ASAndrew Santino
Jamie, fastest one-handed typer in the fucking business. Look at that, see? It's over, bitch.
- JRJoe Rogan
22 hours ago.
- ASAndrew Santino
Severed ties, motherfucker.
- JVJamie Vernon
Man.
- ASAndrew Santino
The Daily Mail, severed ties. It's in hotnewhiphop.com.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- JVJamie Vernon
(laughs)
- ASAndrew Santino
It's on NME. What's NME?
- JRJoe Rogan
New Media Entertainment.
- ASAndrew Santino
Severed ties. Sever ties.
- 21:53 – 28:47
Kaepernick and the national anthem: platform protest vs. endgame and sports nationalism
- ASAndrew Santino
I, I hope he does. But here's the thing, Donald Trump's not a cop and he's not shooting black people.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAndrew Santino
Like, the whole thing is bizarre.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's, yeah, I know, it makes no sense.
- ASAndrew Santino
And th- when Kaepernick is on his knees during the national anthem, that's bizarre too.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAndrew Santino
Because people are just there for a game.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, it's a game.
- ASAndrew Santino
Like, I, I completely understand that you're, uh, disgusted by police brutality.
- JRJoe Rogan
Sure.
- ASAndrew Santino
I think virtually everyone is.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAndrew Santino
And my take on it is, it's, first of all, it's insanely difficult to be a police officer. You have a lot of people that are police officers that have no business holding that job.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- ASAndrew Santino
They're under extreme pressure. A lot of them have PTSD, and a lot of them, they're bullies. And they get into this position because they wanna be the guy with the gun in charge.
- JRJoe Rogan
Totally.
- ASAndrew Santino
And then, they have an opportunity to pull that trigger and they do and they face repercussions because someone was filming it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- ASAndrew Santino
And I think that shit has happened from the beginning of time.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, of course.
- ASAndrew Santino
And there's film, there's a horrible film that we played where there was a guy, I, I posted it on my Twitter, it's fucking horrible, of a guy shooting a white guy who's crawling for his life on the flo- he's telling the guy to crawl towards him, "Let me see your hands." It's in Arizona.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- ASAndrew Santino
And the guy's pants have fallen down. He keeps reaching back to grab his pants. And he goes, he goes, "I will fucking shoot you if you grab your pants!" And the guy is f- crawling and his pants start falling down. He tries to grab his pants, and the guy lights him up.
- JRJoe Rogan
God.
- ASAndrew Santino
In the hallway of a hotel.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, fucked.
- ASAndrew Santino
Just kills him.
- JRJoe Rogan
Fucked.
- ASAndrew Santino
Murdered him. The guy was crying and begging for his life, and the, the cop was making him crawl towards him. Like, why the fuck would you ever make someone crawl towards you?
- JRJoe Rogan
That's insane.
- 28:47 – 40:43
Kanye at the White House meets car porn: Ford GT, Raptor, and “dope” semantics
- ASAndrew Santino
I have my own issues about the Olympics.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know. I know, but I'm just saying, I get the fucking national anthems at the Olympics.
- ASAndrew Santino
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's what it is.
- ASAndrew Santino
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But this is just the Packers versus fucking, you know, the Buccaneers. That ha- ... The, the ... This has nothing to do with the bearing of American future.
- ASAndrew Santino
I agree.
- JRJoe Rogan
"Oh, well, the soldiers fought for your right to be able to put ..." Soldiers fought for your right to be able to do fucking everything. To do ... Do we have to say it-
- ASAndrew Santino
Everything.
- JRJoe Rogan
... before this podcast?
- ASAndrew Santino
Right. We should.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay, we should right now.
- ASAndrew Santino
That's why there's a goddamn flag behind me, Cheeto Santino.
- JRJoe Rogan
No shit. (laughs)
- ASAndrew Santino
Goddamn American flag, motherfucker.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, but secretly, the fans don't know that Joe hates the American flag.
- ASAndrew Santino
Look what's on my phone, bitch. It's the goddamn American flag-
- JRJoe Rogan
See, this is, this, this is, uh-
- ASAndrew Santino
... on my lock screen, motherfucker.
- JRJoe Rogan
This is trolling. He's trolling.
- ASAndrew Santino
Woo!
- JRJoe Rogan
Joe is actually Canadian. Nobody knows that.
- ASAndrew Santino
Shh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Joe's a Canadian. (laughs)
- ASAndrew Santino
Keep it down, bro. They'll hear us.
- JRJoe Rogan
The conspiracy Rogan theorists online are like, "Is Joe actually born in Canada?" (laughs)
- ASAndrew Santino
I've been doing Canadian propaganda on the sneak tip for years.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- ASAndrew Santino
For years.
- JRJoe Rogan
Toronto's a great city.
- 40:43 – 48:03
Kanye, meds, and creativity: stability vs. artistry and self-awareness
- ASAndrew Santino
Well, this is what I think because of Sober October. I think he just needs to work out.
- JRJoe Rogan
See, I- I was just gonna say, I don't, I don't, I don't think, I don't think it's a part of his lifestyle. I think his lifestyle is so-
- ASAndrew Santino
Well, that's not true because one of my friends was his trainer.
- JRJoe Rogan
So, he does work out?
- ASAndrew Santino
He had a trainer for a while.
- JRJoe Rogan
See, I feel like he doesn't work... He seems like a guy that just doesn't have the f-
- ASAndrew Santino
He, he had a trainer.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah?
- ASAndrew Santino
Trust me. Yeah. That's-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's when he lost weight after all this bullshit.
- ASAndrew Santino
It was a long time ago.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAndrew Santino
He had a trainer... (sighs) I wanna say my friend was doing like-
- JRJoe Rogan
I see he looks really good, in good, great shape there.
- ASAndrew Santino
... six or seven years ago. Yeah. Well, you know, I don't wanna disclose any trainer-client confidential shit, but-
- JRJoe Rogan
Do it.
- ASAndrew Santino
... he was working out.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- ASAndrew Santino
He was working out. But the, the point is-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- ASAndrew Santino
... look, the guy's fucking obviously a little loony.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- ASAndrew Santino
But that's also why he's so fucking creative.
- JRJoe Rogan
Fuck yeah.
- ASAndrew Santino
I mean, that's why his music is so good. I mean, I- I don't think you have to be completely normal. Look, most of my best friends are out of their fucking minds. There's nothing-
- JRJoe Rogan
You're not, you're not fucking normal.
- ASAndrew Santino
I'm not normal.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, no.
- ASAndrew Santino
I got real problems.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- 48:03 – 55:25
Alt-white, pundit culture, and the PornHub map: repression, politics, and desire
- JRJoe Rogan
Of co-... Well, look at it like this. There's a map. You can bring it up Ja- Ja- Jamie, bring it up. There's a map of uh, um, categorical porn percentages in the United States, and the highest percentage of white and Black porn is in the South. Is in, like, the Bible Belt.
- ASAndrew Santino
See, I had a- I used to have a bit about it.
- JRJoe Rogan
You did?
- ASAndrew Santino
But I had to stop doing it because it was-
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause it was too true?
- ASAndrew Santino
... I, I dropped the N-bomb a bunch of times in the bit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh. (laughs)
- ASAndrew Santino
(laughs) It was just... (laughs) It was in character-
- JRJoe Rogan
I can see how that didn't go over as well though.
- ASAndrew Santino
It worked.
- JRJoe Rogan
It worked.
- ASAndrew Santino
Or it didn't. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, or-
- ASAndrew Santino
Either it crushed or it was dangerous.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- ASAndrew Santino
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, yeah. (laughs) Or after the show, Joe had to sneak out fast. No, that... There, there was a, there was... It was like... In the Bible Belt-
- ASAndrew Santino
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... there is a chunk of the highest amount of Black dudes fucking white, like Black-on-white porn-
- ASAndrew Santino
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... is in the most conservative parts of the country.
- ASAndrew Santino
Well, my, my take on it was that it wasn't Black guys that were watching this.
- JRJoe Rogan
Of course not.
- ASAndrew Santino
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- ASAndrew Santino
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's fucking white dudes that are-
- ASAndrew Santino
Suppressed. Angry.
- JRJoe Rogan
That wish they're white. Yeah.
- ASAndrew Santino
Angry.
- 55:25 – 1:02:32
Texas scale and hidden history: meg ranches, petroglyphs, and MeatEater in Guyana
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAndrew Santino
... of an unknown origin. They don't know who di-... And, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm actually-
- ASAndrew Santino
... and I was like, "Well, don't they have historians come here and rope that off?" Like, the- they got a lot of it here.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAndrew Santino
It's all over the place. They don't even pay attention to it. I was like-
- JRJoe Rogan
What?
- ASAndrew Santino
... "What are you talking about?" Are you serious?
- JRJoe Rogan
They just let... They just don't, they don't bother with it?
- ASAndrew Santino
Yeah. Look, ancient petroglyphs that they... Look at, click on that, that upper left-hand corner, the one you just had.
- JVJamie Vernon
Mexico.
- ASAndrew Santino
... is that New Mexico?
- JVJamie Vernon
Yeah.
- ASAndrew Santino
Yeah. They have them all over the Southwest.
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, it's all over. Yeah. It's Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, everywhere that-
- ASAndrew Santino
But the thing is no one's, like, curating them. No one's taking care of them. They just exist on this ranch. And the ranch was a, a, was a hunting ranch-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's fucking awesome.
- ASAndrew Santino
... that these people are on. And they took pictures of them.
- JRJoe Rogan
Where is that, Jamie?
- JVJamie Vernon
Texas.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's fucking amazing.
- ASAndrew Santino
My friend, uh, Steve Rinella, whose new show, Meat Eater, is now only on Netflix. It's a hunting show that's on Netflix. Like, an intelligent, really well-narrated hunting show that's, that's, that's done and produced by a brilliant guy.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAndrew Santino
My friend, Steve Rinella. But he was in Guyana, which was where, um, Jonestown was.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yep.
- ASAndrew Santino
Where he fucking killed all those people.
- JRJoe Rogan
The massacre, yeah.
- ASAndrew Santino
Jim Jones with the Kool-Aid.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAndrew Santino
And, uh, they found these petroglyphs on a rock and they were like, "Well, who, who made these?" Like, no one has any idea. It's, like, right by this waterfall. No one has any idea. It's a fascinating series. He's in Guyana, um, uh, living with these indigenous people and fishing-
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