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Joe Rogan Experience #1183 - Andrew Santino

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Joe RoganhostAndrew SantinoguestJamie VernonguestKanye Westguest
Oct 11, 20182h 45mWatch on YouTube ↗

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Partial transcript

0:00 – 0:54

Sober October kickoff: whiskey taunts, coffee as AA, and points trash talk

Joe Rogan 0:00 ... s-

Andrew Santino 0:01 Here we go, four-

Joe Rogan 0:02 ... three.

Andrew Santino 0:03 ... three.

Joe Rogan 0:04 ... two.

Andrew Santino 0:05 ... two... one.

Joe Rogan 0:06 Let's get the sound of this popping off.

Andrew Santino 0:08 I am back! Cito Santino, ladies and gentlemen.

Joe Rogan 0:10 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 0:10 He just popped open a Maker's to taunt me-

Joe Rogan 0:13 46.

Andrew Santino 0:14 ... through Sober October.

Joe Rogan 0:15 Mm. Can we... Let me, let me just do something so we can-

Andrew Santino 0:16 Yeah, let me hear that. Let me hear that. Let me hear that. Oh, that does sound lovely. Oh.

Joe Rogan 0:22 (sighs) This one's for, uh-

Andrew Santino 0:23 I can't wait.

Joe Rogan 0:23 ... this one's for Fat Bert and-

Andrew Santino 0:26 What are we at right now?

Joe Rogan 0:26 ... for Ari.

Andrew Santino 0:27 11. I have 20 days.

Joe Rogan 0:29 (exhales) .

Andrew Santino 0:30 20 days of sobriety. That ain't shit.

Joe Rogan 0:31 Hmm.

Andrew Santino 0:31 I already did 11.

Joe Rogan 0:32 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Santino 0:32 But let me tell you something what I've learned from this. This is what we were talking about before the podcast started.

Joe Rogan 0:37 (exhales) .

Andrew Santino 0:37 You wanna hear me? I'm gonna pour some-

Joe Rogan 0:38 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 0:38 ... coffee, like an alcoholic.

Joe Rogan 0:41 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 0:42 This is like an AA, guys.

Joe Rogan 0:42 Like it's a fucking AA meeting?

Andrew Santino 0:44 I need a cigar or a cigarette.

Joe Rogan 0:45 Hey, I'm Joe.

Andrew Santino 0:46 Um, do we have cigars here? Don't, don't I have cigars here? I do, right?

Jamie Vernon 0:50 Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Santino 0:50 Where the fuck are they?

Joe Rogan 0:50 We should.

Andrew Santino 0:51 They're in one of these things?

Jamie Vernon 0:52 In that humidor.

Andrew Santino 0:54 Do you think?

Jamie Vernon 0:54 Okay.

0:54 – 5:07

Training like a maniac: 2–3 hour workouts, machine circuits, and anxiety relief

Andrew Santino 0:54 Um, one of the things that I realized is that if you work out like I'm working out, like fucking three hours a day-

Joe Rogan 1:01 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 1:01 ... 'cause I'm trying, literally trying to kill Bert. I want Bert to try to keep up with me.

Joe Rogan 1:04 You want him to die, though.

Andrew Santino 1:05 Well, I'm trying to kill him.

Joe Rogan 1:06 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 1:06 Yeah, I'm trying to give him a heart attack. 'Cause you know what bothers me?

Joe Rogan 1:09 (coughs) .

Andrew Santino 1:09 What... This, this is all weed and there's mushrooms in here, and there's no cigars.

Joe Rogan 1:14 No cigars. (laughs)

Andrew Santino 1:16 Um, maybe in the other one.

Joe Rogan 1:16 All good shit.

Jamie Vernon 1:17 No, man. They may not.

Andrew Santino 1:17 Maybe.

Jamie Vernon 1:17 Maybe not.

Andrew Santino 1:18 I might've taken them out of here.

Jamie Vernon 1:19 I don't know.

Joe Rogan 1:20 The humidor.

Jamie Vernon 1:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:22 We're gonna get a huge humidor for you.

Andrew Santino 1:23 A humidor.

Joe Rogan 1:25 A humidor.

Andrew Santino 1:25 Um, what I realized... This is why I'm trying to kill Bert.

Joe Rogan 1:28 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 1:29 He likes to pretend-

Joe Rogan 1:31 That he's in shape?

Andrew Santino 1:32 ... that his effort... Yes.

Joe Rogan 1:33 Yes.

Andrew Santino 1:33 That his effort is spectacular.

Joe Rogan 1:34 Yeah, no.

Andrew Santino 1:35 He likes to pretend that he can push himself.

Joe Rogan 1:38 No.

Andrew Santino 1:38 That he's got this incredible will. He's in last place, of course.

Joe Rogan 1:41 Yeah, dead last.

Andrew Santino 1:41 By quite a bit.

Joe Rogan 1:42 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw the points.

Andrew Santino 1:43 Like 1,000 points.

Joe Rogan 1:43 It's really sad.

Andrew Santino 1:44 Yeah. And, you know, he takes days off when everybody doesn't. He took like... I took three days off when I went to Vegas. I'm still in the lead. (slaps desk)

Joe Rogan 1:52 Yeah. Well, I... You know, hi- I- I've seen, I've seen his cooking show. I know how he eats. I've seen his fucking...

Andrew Santino 1:56 It's the booze, man. It's not-

Joe Rogan 1:57 Yeah, the booze, too.

Andrew Santino 1:58 His body... I mean, he's... I love Bert. And this is one of the reasons why I'm trying to kill him.

Joe Rogan 2:02 I fucking hate him. Let's fight, Bert, you son of a bitch.

Andrew Santino 2:04 I, I wa- ... I want him to realize, like, this is not... You're 10 years younger than me, and you have to take high blood pressure medication. This is all not good.

Joe Rogan 2:13 Yeah, no, it's not good.

Andrew Santino 2:14 This is... You're doing something terrible to your body by drinking every night.

Joe Rogan 2:17 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 2:17 You shouldn't do it.

Joe Rogan 2:18 What does he do, a bottle a night, you think?

Andrew Santino 2:20 He gets down, dude.

Joe Rogan 2:21 Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Santino 2:21 He gets down.

Joe Rogan 2:22 He can drink.

Andrew Santino 2:22 He'll drink a whole box of wine, one of those boxed wines.

Joe Rogan 2:26 (laughs) He's a Fra-

Andrew Santino 2:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:26 Is Franzi a freak?

Andrew Santino 2:27 He's an animal, man. He'll drink a whole Tito's, like a whole jug of Tito's.

Joe Rogan 2:31 I've seen that. I've seen that go down.

Andrew Santino 2:33 What's going on here?

Jamie Vernon 2:33 I just-

Joe Rogan 2:34 He's freaking out.

Jamie Vernon 2:35 He takes his shirt off. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:35 He takes his shirt off, no shit.

Andrew Santino 2:36 Of course he does.

Joe Rogan 2:37 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 2:37 Oh my God, look at the belly.

Joe Rogan 2:38 Look at that fucking stomach.

Andrew Santino 2:39 Here's the thing, man.

Joe Rogan 2:40 Can you see his dick? Do you think he sees his dick?

Andrew Santino 2:42 Mm, we could search for it.

Joe Rogan 2:43 Yeah, hi- find it? It's a hide and g- hide and go, uh, hide and go dick?

Andrew Santino 2:45 Why is he taking his shirt off? What's the deal?

Jamie Vernon 2:47 Uh, he was on-

Joe Rogan 2:47 This is a, this is a podcast. I saw this. Norton and him s-... He... What was he, he was saying on this?

Jamie Vernon 2:52 He called his wife for something and, to ask about... It was something about sex, and his kids were in the car.

Joe Rogan 2:57 Oh, his kids were in the car. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Santino 2:58 Oh, wonderful.

Jamie Vernon 2:59 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:00 Yeah, and he pan- and he panicked.

Andrew Santino 3:01 Like he hasn't done that before.

Joe Rogan 3:02 No shit.

Andrew Santino 3:03 Hammered. Um, but, uh, Tom lost all the weight when they had that weight loss challenge two years ago. Not last year, the year before.

Joe Rogan 3:12 Yeah, but Segura looks good.

Andrew Santino 3:13 Segura never gained it back.

Joe Rogan 3:14 No, yeah, he stayed.

Jamie Vernon 3:15 He's still there.

Andrew Santino 3:15 He actually lost a little.

Joe Rogan 3:16 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 3:16 He looks fucking fantastic.

Joe Rogan 3:17 He looks fantastic.

Andrew Santino 3:18 And he's in the hunt. It's like Ari and him are just behind me. Ari and him are neck and neck. Ari's number two, and he's just behind Ari, and then Segura's wa- I mean, then-

Joe Rogan 3:27 Way-

Andrew Santino 3:27 ... Bert is way behind everybody else.

Joe Rogan 3:28 But Ari needs to lose no weight.

Andrew Santino 3:30 Zero weight. But-

Joe Rogan 3:31 He's already in... He's already thin as fuck.

Andrew Santino 3:32 ... he's down to 180 pounds, he said, for the first time in, like, decades.

Joe Rogan 3:36 What is he, 6'3", 4"?

Andrew Santino 3:38 At least.

Joe Rogan 3:39 6'4"? Yeah, right?

Andrew Santino 3:40 6'3", 6'4".

Joe Rogan 3:40 That's gotta be right.

Andrew Santino 3:42 Um, but he looks great.

Joe Rogan 3:43 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 3:43 Like, he's thin and healthy and-

Joe Rogan 3:45 I mean, for a snarly Jewish guy-

Andrew Santino 3:47 ... he feels great.

Joe Rogan 3:47 ... he looks good.

Andrew Santino 3:48 He's a little angry.

Joe Rogan 3:48 Yeah. His face is bad, but his body looks good.

Andrew Santino 3:50 A little angry without the weed.

Joe Rogan 3:51 Yeah. (laughs)

Andrew Santino 3:51 But I think that this is helping him. And this is one of the things I was saying, is that, um, working out... Like, I'm literally working out two, sometimes three hours a day.

Joe Rogan 4:00 You do two... Do you split it up, or do you just do one full session?

Andrew Santino 4:02 Sometimes I just go w- I go ham.

Joe Rogan 4:04 Fuck.

Andrew Santino 4:04 I'll just go hard. I'll just mix things up. Like, I'll run, and then I'll come back from running and I'll kick box. Then after I kick box, I'll get on the elliptical machine, or I'll lift weights, and after I lift weights, and then I'll get on the fucking Echo Bike. You know what the Echo Bike is?

Joe Rogan 4:17 Oh, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Santino 4:17 One of those Airdyne things?

Joe Rogan 4:18 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 4:18 And then I'll get on the VersaClimber, and then I'll get on the rowing machine, and I just do rounds. When I can't row anymore... Look at this fucking puddle I left behind. This is a puddle on my elliptical machine.

Joe Rogan 4:28 Jesus fucking Christ.

Andrew Santino 4:30 Yeah, I mean, it was cr-... This was two hours on the elliptical machine. And this was... I just wanted to see, like, what's possible, and then how I felt the next day. I felt fine. The thing is, I work out a lot already, so m- now my body's just adjusting to, like, a ramped-up schedule.

Joe Rogan 4:45 Yeah, a higher level of workout.

Andrew Santino 4:46 Whereas, Ari doesn't work out at all.

Joe Rogan 4:47 Mm-mm.

Andrew Santino 4:47 He hasn't worked out in 10-plus years. So for him, this is like a whole new thing.

Joe Rogan 4:51 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 4:51 But he's still second place. It's his mind. Ari's got a strong mind.

Joe Rogan 4:55 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 4:56 He's, he's, he's got a will.

Joe Rogan 4:58 So what does that... And Segura's just gonna finish somewhere in the middle?

Andrew Santino 5:00 Segura might win. You never know.

Joe Rogan 5:02 Do you think he'll, you think he'll come, come up?

Andrew Santino 5:03 He probably won't beat me.

Joe Rogan 5:04 No.

Andrew Santino 5:05 I'm...

Joe Rogan 5:05 There shouldn't-

Andrew Santino 5:06 I have too much anger.

Joe Rogan 5:07 There should be...

Andrew Santino 5:07 I'm gonna win just from anger.

5:07 – 7:12

Raising the stakes: the missing Sober October “belt” and crowd-sourced design contest

Joe Rogan 5:07 There should be something big, big on the line, though.

Andrew Santino 5:09 Yeah, there's nothing on the line.

Joe Rogan 5:10 I see sh-

Andrew Santino 5:10 What about a belt?

Joe Rogan 5:11 Yeah, there should be something big on the line.

Andrew Santino 5:12 We have to finalize that belt, Jamie.

Jamie Vernon 5:13 You need some good artwork, which-

Andrew Santino 5:15 Yeah.

Jamie Vernon 5:15 ... you have some, but-

Andrew Santino 5:16 Yeah. Uh, folks, um, get at me on Instagram.

Joe Rogan 5:20 Instagram.

Andrew Santino 5:20 Use the hashtag... You know, use like #JoeRogan. Tag me. And if you win, I'll give you 500 bucks.

Jamie Vernon 5:27 Oh.

Andrew Santino 5:27 Okay?

Jamie Vernon 5:28 Power move.

Joe Rogan 5:28 Look at that. People are scrambling for fucking pens right now.

Andrew Santino 5:30 So anybody, anybody who comes up with the, the best design, I'll give you 500 bucks. If I don't choose anybody, nobody gets shit. We- we'll have an artist try to-

Joe Rogan 5:36 If you don't choose anybody, you burn the money. That's what Joe's gonna do.

Jamie Vernon 5:38 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 5:38 I'll do that quick, too.

Joe Rogan 5:40 He's gonna burn it.

Andrew Santino 5:40 Uh, yeah, we need it quick. I have an artist that's trying to work on it, too, so there's a run. There's like a... There's a mad run here.

Joe Rogan 5:46 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 5:46 But, um, the, um, the thing... What I was gonna say is-

Joe Rogan 5:50 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 5:50 ... all bullshit aside and jokes, and I do love Bert.

Joe Rogan 5:52 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Santino 5:53 And I do love everybody else doing this.

Joe Rogan 5:54 They're the best.

Andrew Santino 5:55 But all jokes aside, I, I have, like, zero anxiety-... zero worry, zero stress. Like, when you burn your body out like that, do like two hours of working out a day, not... You know, I don't give a fuck about anything. Like I'm in traffic, people cut me off, I'm like-

Joe Rogan 6:12 Don't give a fuck.

Andrew Santino 6:13 ... "Good luck, dick fuck. Go ahead cut me off, dickhead." Who cares? I'm not angry. Like, there's nothing.

Joe Rogan 6:17 What is it? Because your body's so burnt you think you're just so fucking exhausted?

Andrew Santino 6:21 I think, this is my, my feeling-

Joe Rogan 6:23 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 6:23 ... I feel a lot of those, I, the, a lot of those feelings that w- you have, whether it's anxiety or stress, it's just extra energy that your body has. It's unnecessary-

Joe Rogan 6:33 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 6:33 ... it's unnecessary energy. And it's just like your body's looking for trouble that isn't there-

Joe Rogan 6:38 Right.

Andrew Santino 6:38 ... looking for danger that isn't there, looking, you know, look, looking for something that's gonna, like, steal your food or-

Joe Rogan 6:44 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 6:44 ... invade your village. All that shit-

Joe Rogan 6:46 It's gonna, who's gonna kill my family.

Andrew Santino 6:48 Well, I think your body has to have a cert- w- the way we were designed, right, for all the years that we were running away from wild animals and other tribes and all that shit, I think your, your body and your brain have, uh, a certain amount on reserve, always looking for some sort of danger. Like you ever-

Joe Rogan 7:06 Right.

Andrew Santino 7:06 ... you ever see a deer in the wild that's like, like-

Joe Rogan 7:09 Oh, yeah.

Andrew Santino 7:09 ... twitchy and move their ears?

Joe Rogan 7:11 Yeah, they s- it's snapping around and-

7:12 – 12:52

Neighborhood “mountain lion” video: wildlife paranoia and identity satire

Andrew Santino 7:12 There was a, "Is that a mountain lion? Is that a mountain lion? Is that a mountain-" There's a mountain lion in my neighborhood, by the way. This-

Joe Rogan 7:16 There is?

Andrew Santino 7:16 Yeah. The neighborhoods, uh, one of the neighbors spotted a mountain lion.

Joe Rogan 7:19 You got your fucking bow out?

Andrew Santino 7:20 They, uh... Good luck shooting a mountain lion with a bow.

Joe Rogan 7:23 Be fun though, huh?

Andrew Santino 7:24 Y- y- y- you'd have to... The odds of you shooting a mount- yeah. What is that that walks by that lady? Is that a cat?

Jamie Vernon 7:30 I don't-

Joe Rogan 7:30 That's a fucking... No, that's not a cat.

Jamie Vernon 7:32 People said it was a mountain lion because of how its tail popped up at-

Andrew Santino 7:35 It looks like a mountain lion-

Joe Rogan 7:36 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 7:36 ... walking right by her.

Andrew Santino 7:37 ... but it's just way too casual walking by her.

Joe Rogan 7:39 She doesn't give a fuck.

Jamie Vernon 7:41 She doesn't know what it is. She thought it was a dog.

Andrew Santino 7:42 It's, it definitely looks like a cat.

Joe Rogan 7:43 She thought it was a dog, huh?

Jamie Vernon 7:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:45 It kinda looks like a dog.

Andrew Santino 7:47 But it's, it's just way too calm the way it walks by her. That's not a wild cat.

Joe Rogan 7:52 I think that's a dog, man.

Andrew Santino 7:54 But it doesn't look like it.

Joe Rogan 7:55 A dog, maybe a mountain lion. (laughs) Made its debut.

Andrew Santino 7:58 Nobody knows what the fuck it is.

Joe Rogan 7:59 Terrifying or not.

Andrew Santino 8:00 Even wildlife experts are looking at that video and they're like, "The t-" See, like, I'm not a wildlife expert but I've seen a lot of wildlife.

Joe Rogan 8:07 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Santino 8:07 The tail does not look right. The tail looks like a cat.

Joe Rogan 8:10 Does it?

Andrew Santino 8:10 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It does. See it again.

Jamie Vernon 8:12 Oh.

Andrew Santino 8:12 That tail definitely looks like a cat. Doesn't look like a dog tail. It looks like a balancing tail. Like if you look at how it's walking-

Joe Rogan 8:18 I guess, yeah. It's like, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it kinda does look like a fucking cat tail.

Andrew Santino 8:21 Let me see it again. Let me see it again.

Joe Rogan 8:23 That's a fucking dog though.

Andrew Santino 8:24 It could be a dog.

Joe Rogan 8:25 You know how people trim their dog hair and i- they make their dogs look fucking stupid?

Andrew Santino 8:28 Yeah, but it's the way the tail looks, man. It's like the tail, it's holding its tail in the air.

Joe Rogan 8:31 Yeah kinda is.

Andrew Santino 8:32 You see what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 8:32 Yeah, it is. We checked the tracks and they were definitely dog tracks.

Andrew Santino 8:35 Oh.

Joe Rogan 8:35 See there we go.

Andrew Santino 8:37 So it's a dog. So it's a dog. It's a faggot dog.

Joe Rogan 8:40 (laughs) It's my dog.

Andrew Santino 8:41 (laughs) Fucking... I told myself I wasn't gonna say the F word anymore and I did it. It snuck out, talking about a dog.

Joe Rogan 8:47 It makes its way out.

Andrew Santino 8:49 I think this dog-

Joe Rogan 8:49 Out of the closet.

Andrew Santino 8:50 This dog, um, it identifies as a cat.

Joe Rogan 8:53 It i- i- i- did... I heard the dog identifies as a person now, that it doesn't, it wants to be called-

Andrew Santino 8:58 Oh, they're allowed?

Joe Rogan 8:58 ... Kel- Kelvin. That's its name. Yeah, the dog says, "I'm Kelvin."

Andrew Santino 9:01 Well-

Joe Rogan 9:01 That's what it said.

Andrew Santino 9:01 ... you know, you have to respect its feelings.

Joe Rogan 9:03 Mm-hmm. It has every right to be whatever it wants to be, man.

Andrew Santino 9:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:07 Did you just assume that animals-

Andrew Santino 9:10 I did. I fucked up. I assumed its, its identity.

Joe Rogan 9:13 Its identity?

Andrew Santino 9:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:14 That's fucked up too.

Andrew Santino 9:14 That's a big mistake on my part.

Joe Rogan 9:15 You got a lot of fucking nerve, Joe Rogan.

Andrew Santino 9:17 I do have a lot of nerve. That's... I'm f- I'm fucking deeply embarrassed by myself.

Joe Rogan 9:21 You need to go to a support group for people who think that dogs are just dogs.

Andrew Santino 9:24 Maybe it's-

Joe Rogan 9:24 They're more than that.

Andrew Santino 9:25 ... not even a cat. Maybe it's just a sentient being. Maybe it identifies as, like, a sentient being.

Joe Rogan 9:30 It's just a being. It's an o-

Andrew Santino 9:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:31 ... it's an orb of energy and light.

Andrew Santino 9:32 Not a dog, not a cat, just a thing-

Joe Rogan 9:34 Just a being.

Andrew Santino 9:35 ... that e- exists.

Joe Rogan 9:36 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 9:37 And maybe we don't have the right to define it.

Joe Rogan 9:39 You Goddamn right.

Andrew Santino 9:39 I mean, when you call something a cat, by whose judgment?

Joe Rogan 9:42 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Santino 9:42 By human's judgment?

Joe Rogan 9:43 And that's a feminine word and you assigned it-

Andrew Santino 9:46 Cat?

Joe Rogan 9:46 ... you ass- yeah, you sai- yeah, cat.

Andrew Santino 9:47 Cat's a feminine word.

Joe Rogan 9:47 The way you said it sounds feminine.

Andrew Santino 9:49 But what about cool cat? Like if you're a cool Black guy, like, "Yeah, he's a cool cat."

Joe Rogan 9:52 Black people, their, their rules don't apply.

Andrew Santino 9:54 That do- they don't use that anymore, do they?

Joe Rogan 9:55 Cool cat, no.

Andrew Santino 9:56 Like ha- har- hardly anybody uses co- "He's a cool cat."

Joe Rogan 9:58 No- no one's saying jive turkey anymore either. (laughs)

Andrew Santino 10:00 Jive turkey was fun I bet though for a while. Who do you think was the last guy to say jive turkey in all earnestness?

Joe Rogan 10:06 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 10:07 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 10:07 That's right, I wonder. (laughs) I think I saw-

Andrew Santino 10:10 I'll let it go.

Joe Rogan 10:10 ... I think I saw, like, a shitty movie in the '90s where someone, like a Black comic used jive turkey. Oh, Nick Cannon. I saw a thing and Nick Cannon. Look up jive turkey and Nick Cannon.

Andrew Santino 10:19 Was he serious?

Joe Rogan 10:19 Oh, dead serious. He's like, "Cut that out. Jive turkey."

Andrew Santino 10:21 He was cross with him.

Joe Rogan 10:22 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 10:22 Oh, but he was probably being silly.

Joe Rogan 10:23 Y-

Andrew Santino 10:23 Nick Cannon's a comedian.

Joe Rogan 10:25 Y- y- y- g- yeah.

Andrew Santino 10:26 Winning the loosest sex is the word.

Joe Rogan 10:27 Yeah. (laughs) Yeah, yeah, yeah. (laughs)

Andrew Santino 10:29 (laughs) He does stand up comedy, doesn't he?

Joe Rogan 10:32 Sure.

Andrew Santino 10:32 He had a stand-up comedy special.

Jamie Vernon 10:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:33 Sure.

Jamie Vernon 10:34 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 10:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:35 Yeah, yeah. Look at Jamie Smirk.

Andrew Santino 10:36 Yeah, Jamie Smirkin.

Joe Rogan 10:38 It was called, his standup comedy special was called, uh, Stand Up, Don't Shoot.

Andrew Santino 10:42 Really?

Joe Rogan 10:42 For real. I'm dead serious. It was called Stand Up, Don't Shoot.

Andrew Santino 10:44 Okay. All right.

Joe Rogan 10:45 And he wore a, and he wore a, um, you know he wears like a, uh-

Andrew Santino 10:48 Space suit?

Joe Rogan 10:49 Yeah. (laughs) Yeah. What is it called?

Jamie Vernon 10:50 He has a hat.

Andrew Santino 10:50 Cat outfit.

Joe Rogan 10:51 He wears like a fucking-

Jamie Vernon 10:52 He has a hat.

Joe Rogan 10:53 What is it called? Um...

Andrew Santino 10:54 One of them Indian headdresses.

Joe Rogan 10:55 Like Muslim headwear, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Santino 10:57 What?

Joe Rogan 10:57 Something like that.

Jamie Vernon 10:58 No, no. It's just a hat.

Joe Rogan 10:58 Doesn't he? It... No, no, dude.

Andrew Santino 11:00 Hijab?

Joe Rogan 11:00 Hijab, hijab. Yeah, he wears a hijab.

Andrew Santino 11:02 Does he?

Joe Rogan 11:02 Yes, he does.

Andrew Santino 11:02 No, that's a fucking knit cap.

Joe Rogan 11:03 I know not... But l- look-

Andrew Santino 11:04 Bro.

Joe Rogan 11:04 ... Google Nick Cannon hijab. He wears the shit. Fucking, uh... But Howard Stern was giving him shit about it forever because he kee- 'cause he was wearing it. Watch. I'll, it'll be-

Andrew Santino 11:12 What?

Joe Rogan 11:12 It'll pull, it'll come right... Told you, bro.

Jamie Vernon 11:14 Oh, all right.

Andrew Santino 11:14 He wears a turban.

Joe Rogan 11:16 All right.

Andrew Santino 11:16 I'm like wait a minute. What the fuck? Nick Cannon explains his reason for wearing a turban. Get to that-

Joe Rogan 11:22 See?

Jamie Vernon 11:22 On Ellen.

Andrew Santino 11:22 ... please. On Ellen. (sighs) I just don't have any breath in my body.

Joe Rogan 11:29 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 11:30 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 11:30 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:30 I can't.

Andrew Santino 11:31 What's his ex- what is his explanation?

Joe Rogan 11:33 I don't remember what he said it was.

Andrew Santino 11:34 What did he say?

Joe Rogan 11:34 I don't know. Some fucking bullshit.

Jamie Vernon 11:37 He's gonna study it.

Andrew Santino 11:37 Uh, "You know me, I'm a conspiracy theorist. I think the government did that. They set her up." What is that about?

Jamie Vernon 11:43 That was something with Mariah.

Andrew Santino 11:44 Mariah?

Jamie Vernon 11:44 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 11:45 No, that was some bullshit.

Joe Rogan 11:45 Wait a minute. Hold on a second. "Ellen 58 then asked Nick about Mariah's New Year's Eve televised performance that was marred by technical difficulties," and he said, "You know me, I'm a conspiracy theorist. I think the government did that. I think they set her up. It was a distraction." Oh, he's joking.Yeah. No, no, no. See? You said he was a comic. That was hilarious.

Andrew Santino 12:07 Mm, that was so good.

Joe Rogan 12:08 That was very funny. Why does he say-

Andrew Santino 12:09 I like his white f- Fonz jacket.

Joe Rogan 12:11 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Santino 12:11 That's ... I've never seen a white one like that. It's like an old school motorcycle jacket, but it's white.

Joe Rogan 12:15 White guys can't wear white jackets, that's why.

Andrew Santino 12:17 Yeah, they can.

Joe Rogan 12:18 No, they can't.

Andrew Santino 12:18 Sure they can.

Joe Rogan 12:19 You can't wear a white leather jacket.

Andrew Santino 12:20 I can with hoop earrings.

Joe Rogan 12:22 (laughs) Okay, yeah.

Andrew Santino 12:22 Big ol' Latina hoop earrings.

Joe Rogan 12:25 (laughs) Yeah, I wanna see you wear those.

Andrew Santino 12:27 And if I had hair, I'd wear braids.

Joe Rogan 12:28 That should be the bet, is you gotta wear a white leather jacket-

Andrew Santino 12:31 If I had hair, I'd wear cornrows.

Joe Rogan 12:31 ... and hoop earrings. If you lose-

Andrew Santino 12:32 Do white guys ... They don't seem to get called out for cornrows. It's really, uh, w- White girls can't wear cornrows.

Joe Rogan 12:38 Yeah, but white g- Do you see white guys with cornrows? I don't ever see white guys with cornrows.

Andrew Santino 12:41 Look at this. Nick Cannon weight gain. What, what the fuck is wrong with people?

Jamie Vernon 12:44 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 12:44 Let the guy gain a little weight, you fucking idiots. Worry about yourself.

Joe Rogan 12:48 But the guy's got a pink turban.

Andrew Santino 12:49 Wear about that?

Joe Rogan 12:49 What is his reasoning for the turban? I can't ... Uh.

12:52 – 20:04

Glamrou and quantum physics: peacocking, attention, and judgment vs. tolerance

Andrew Santino 12:52 That picture that I posted on my Instagram about the British Iraqi genderqueer whatever the fuck he is. Look at this, "Quantum physics really helped me understand my queer identity. I'm British Iraqi, gay, non-binary and identify as Muslim."

Jamie Vernon 13:10 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 13:10 That is real, by the way. There's a video ... If you go to, um, whose Instagram? Oh, James Woods posted it on his Twitter page. If you go to James Woods' Twitter page and he says ... Is that ... That's Ali G, right? That's what he says.

Joe Rogan 13:24 That is funny.

Andrew Santino 13:25 Yeah. Or, that's Sasha Baron Cohen.

Joe Rogan 13:26 This is Sasha Baron Cohen.

Andrew Santino 13:27 Yeah. If you go to his Twitter page and you find it from yesterday, that's where I saw it, and there's an actual video that goes along with it. Now, here's what's interesting. When you listen to this g- person, I don't wanna assume their gender.

Joe Rogan 13:43 Some- Something. No, just say, "This something."

Andrew Santino 13:46 When you listen to this something, it seems, uh, very intelligent, like a very intelligent person.

Joe Rogan 13:51 Sure.

Jamie Vernon 13:52 He posts a lot.

Andrew Santino 13:52 But ... Yeah, he posts a lot.

Jamie Vernon 13:54 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 13:54 All James Woods does all day is just drink coffee and talk shit about liberals. Keep going down.

Jamie Vernon 13:58 I already ... It was past his yesterday already.

Andrew Santino 14:01 Yeah, just keep going. It was, uh-

Joe Rogan 14:03 He's got some Kavanaugh mixed in. He's got some fake news mixed in.

Andrew Santino 14:07 It's in there.

Joe Rogan 14:08 I like beer.

Andrew Santino 14:08 I guarantee you. How many days-

Joe Rogan 14:09 I still like beer.

Jamie Vernon 14:10 Now, like, this is two days ago now.

Joe Rogan 14:12 I don't know why-

Andrew Santino 14:13 Ah, keep going. It might be in there.

Jamie Vernon 14:15 Maybe delete it. Was it a response to someone?

Andrew Santino 14:17 No, no, no. I don't think so. Ah, it might have been.

Joe Rogan 14:20 There it is right there.

Jamie Vernon 14:20 There it is.

Andrew Santino 14:21 Bam. Okay, go live.

Joe Rogan 14:23 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 14:23 Go large. Go large on this.

Joe Rogan 14:26 Go large, go live.

Andrew Santino 14:27 And, uh, bring it to the beginning, 'cause this is quite hiller.

Jamie Vernon 14:30 And identity that you might categorize as-

Andrew Santino 14:31 Hold on, bring it to the beginning. Here we go.

Jamie Vernon 14:35 My name is Amrou Al-Kadhi, or Glamrou, and I have an identity-

Andrew Santino 14:39 Glamrou.

Jamie Vernon 14:39 ... that you might categorize as intersectional. I'm British Iraqi, gay, non-binary, and also identify as Muslim. And reading about-

Andrew Santino 14:46 The glitteriest-

Jamie Vernon 14:47 ... quantum physics has really helped me understand-

Andrew Santino 14:49 ... makeup I've ever seen on any human.

Jamie Vernon 14:51 ... my queer identity. (instrumental music plays) Quantum physics has helped him understand his queer identity. Okay. Now, listen.

Joe Rogan 14:58 He's a fucking space cadet.

Andrew Santino 15:00 The pictures are insane, but listen.

Jamie Vernon 15:02 A glorious sect of physics that looks at the subatomic particles that govern our world, so inside the neutrons, electrons and the protons, looking at the quarks, leptons, bosons and the Higgs.

Joe Rogan 15:15 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 15:15 Whereas classical Newtonian physics is obsessed with the universal formula that govern our reality, it's so fixed on resolute answers, quantum physics reveals that there is no fixed reality and it's full of beautiful contradictions.

Andrew Santino 15:33 Okay, so here's my point. You can keep going on, watch this, but this is a very intelligent person.

Joe Rogan 15:38 Sure.

Andrew Santino 15:38 So why am I so dismissive? (slaps hands) Why? Why can't this person wear ridi- Like, if a woman was beautiful and she wore, like, a dark red lipstick, but she was talking brilliant science, I wouldn't have an issue with it. So, why do I have an issue with this Glamrou fella, character?

Joe Rogan 15:56 Glamrou.

Andrew Santino 15:57 Uh, f- fella whom, and-

Joe Rogan 16:00 I'm Glamrou Cho.

Andrew Santino 16:01 Um, why do I have an issue with the bright blue glittery lips, the literal rainbow colored eyeshadow with glitter, the false eyelashes?

Joe Rogan 16:12 Is this Tekashi 6ix9ine? Is that what ... Is this Tekashi 6ix9ine? And I think ... H- Here's my thing with this whole thing.

Andrew Santino 16:17 (sighs) .

Joe Rogan 16:17 I, I, I don't give a fuck what you wanna be, who you identify with. I'm, for real, cool with all that shit. I think this is like peacocking in its ... At its finest form.

Andrew Santino 16:25 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 16:25 This is calling for attention, so the reason that we all are like, "Ah!" And when they get mad, like, "What are you looking at?" You know when someone's like, "What are you looking at?" You're like, "You! You! You fucking did this show-"

Andrew Santino 16:34 Right.

Joe Rogan 16:34 "... for me to see."

Andrew Santino 16:35 Right.

Joe Rogan 16:35 "Other than that, you'd stay private and have your own life."

Andrew Santino 16:37 But-

Joe Rogan 16:37 "It's ... You want me to react."

Andrew Santino 16:39 But why do I like some of it? Like, if there's a 70-year-old Black dude and he's got, like, a red velvet suit on.

Joe Rogan 16:46 Well, he looks cool as shit. (laughs)

Andrew Santino 16:47 Right? With, like, a slick fedora, and he's walking down the street with a fucking snake head silver cane.

Joe Rogan 16:55 Hey, Joe Rogan. (laughs)

Andrew Santino 16:56 You know what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 16:57 Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Santino 16:57 I'd look ... I'd look at that guy or girl, "Look at this cool motherfucker."

Joe Rogan 16:59 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 17:00 But he's peacocking as well.

Joe Rogan 17:01 Yeah, but it's a different ... This ... But this is attention grabbing because they want you to d- Okay, these people, uh, the people who do ... Who want to be larger than life that do things like this to express who they really are-

Andrew Santino 17:12 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 17:12 ... that they want to have a discussion, whether or not they wanna have true discourse. They want you to go, "What is this? What are you?" What ... They want that.

Andrew Santino 17:21 Right.

Joe Rogan 17:21 And they, and they also wanna, like, quote unquote, "inform you" or argue with you about who they are and what-

Andrew Santino 17:26 Their identity.

Joe Rogan 17:26 Yes.

Andrew Santino 17:27 Their identity.

Joe Rogan 17:28 Yeah, but why ... That's my whole thing. Why can't you just be, be the thing you are? I don't ... You don't need to have so many ... Was it nine labels?

Andrew Santino 17:33 Here's the thing-

Joe Rogan 17:33 "I'm a Rocky, gay, British, Muslim ..." It's like, dude, whatever. You're just-

Andrew Santino 17:36 ... I-

Joe Rogan 17:36 You're Glamrou.

Andrew Santino 17:37 ... agree with you.

Joe Rogan 17:38 Yeah, be Glamrou.

Andrew Santino 17:39 But I also, myself-

Joe Rogan 17:41 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 17:41 ... I'm questioning my own judgmental nature.

Joe Rogan 17:44 You're saying, "Why do you pre-judge?"

Andrew Santino 17:45 Like, why do I give a fuck? Why do I care?

Joe Rogan 17:46 Because it's outside of the realm of normalcy.

Andrew Santino 17:48 It ... But what is normalcy?

Joe Rogan 17:49 Y- You ... This is the ... This is ... These are pre-fucking-normal dudes.

Andrew Santino 17:53 Right. Right, right, right.

Joe Rogan 17:53 From, from na- from normal standards of what's kind of the same thing you've seen for the past ... You know?

Andrew Santino 17:58 Right. So we fit into culture where we don't stand out-

Joe Rogan 18:01 No, yeah.

Andrew Santino 18:01 ... so we're not asking for additional attention.

Joe Rogan 18:03 I don't ... Yeah, no.

Andrew Santino 18:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:05 This is, this is a call to attention, a call to discussion and, and-... again, I don't give a fu- I don't have anything against this fucking person. I don't know him, I don't give a shit about him. I just know that this is clearly for you to go, "What the fuck?"

Andrew Santino 18:19 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 18:19 That's why they, that's why that is.

Andrew Santino 18:20 What if I was dressed exactly like this, but I had a thick rope chain with a star on it that had all diamonds?

Joe Rogan 18:27 You want me to say something about it. That's why you wore that, right? You'd want me to go, "Why the fuck do you-"

Andrew Santino 18:31 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:31 "... why are you wearing that shit?"

Andrew Santino 18:33 Right. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:33 "Why the fuck are you wearing that?"

Andrew Santino 18:34 Right, right. Right, right.

Joe Rogan 18:35 And, in fact, it would be insane if I sat here the whole fucking interview and didn't, and wasn't like-

Andrew Santino 18:40 Didn't go ham then.

Joe Rogan 18:40 ..."Joe, what the fuck is that?"

Andrew Santino 18:41 "Why do you have a star, like, the size of like a Mercedes emblem-"

Joe Rogan 18:45 Right.

Andrew Santino 18:45 "... all in diamonds."

Joe Rogan 18:46 And, and you'd be the asshole if you go, "Wha- wh- oh, what is this? Do I have to fucking talk, do you have to know my identity with my..." Yeah.

Andrew Santino 18:52 "This is a part of my culture, man."

Joe Rogan 18:54 "Okay. Well, explain it 'cause I don't get it-"

Andrew Santino 18:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:56 "... 'cause it's not what I'm fucking used to."

Andrew Santino 18:58 Or, okay, how about a white guy who dresses like that, but talks like he's not a white guy?

Jamie Vernon 19:04 Right, right, right, like the whole, uh, w- well-

Andrew Santino 19:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:06 "Well, dude, this guy. Here's that, that's the guy I was talking about."

Andrew Santino 19:09 Yeah, but he's a troll.

Joe Rogan 19:09 He's a great troll. He's actually so good at it-

Andrew Santino 19:11 Do you think he really got pistol whipped in Brooklyn and robbed, or do you think he did that-

Joe Rogan 19:15 No.

Andrew Santino 19:15 ... to himself?

Joe Rogan 19:15 No. I think that was all a big fucking media push. But I think he's a genius for doing it, 'cause it got him way more attention.

Andrew Santino 19:21 Hm.

Joe Rogan 19:21 I thi- I think this-

Andrew Santino 19:22 He might've got robbed though.

Joe Rogan 19:22 I, I think this kid is-

Jamie Vernon 19:24 He got his stuff back.

Andrew Santino 19:24 ... is actually very smart.

Jamie Vernon 19:26 What'd you say, Jamie? He got his stuff back. They took his chain and shit.

Joe Rogan 19:29 And they gave it back?

Andrew Santino 19:30 Wait a minute. How do you get his stuff back?

Joe Rogan 19:31 Real thieves don't give shit back.

Jamie Vernon 19:32 You get, uh, you get the, the chains go back sometimes.

Joe Rogan 19:37 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 19:37 What do you, what do you know about Black culture?

Jamie Vernon 19:39 People get, they get-

Andrew Santino 19:39 Look at Jamie.

Joe Rogan 19:40 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 19:40 Jamie's all pretentious.

Joe Rogan 19:41 Jamie's in the motherfucking streets.

Andrew Santino 19:43 Sometimes-

Jamie Vernon 19:43 Ah!

Andrew Santino 19:43 ... listen guys, sometimes the chains come back.

Jamie Vernon 19:46 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:46 Jamie's gonna be-

Andrew Santino 19:47 I don't know how they, I'm not saying how they get them back.

Jamie Vernon 19:49 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 19:49 I'm just saying they didn't pay for them back.

Joe Rogan 19:51 Because like, guys-

Andrew Santino 19:51 I'm on Black Twitter.

Jamie Vernon 19:53 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:53 You guys don't know.

Andrew Santino 19:54 Relax. I got this.

Joe Rogan 19:54 Jamie's like, "My Black friend, Mark."

Andrew Santino 19:56 Guys, I went to the Drake concert.

Jamie Vernon 19:57 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:58 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 19:58 Relax. I got this.

Jamie Vernon 20:00 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 20:01 (laughs) I bought The Carter V. Fellas, listen up.

20:04 – 21:53

Celebrity politics detour: Jay-Z/Kanye rumors and Kanye’s Trump strategy theory

Andrew Santino 20:04 Jay-Z and Beyonce will no longer speak to Kanye and Kim Kardashian.

Joe Rogan 20:08 Fact.

Jamie Vernon 20:09 When did they do it?

Andrew Santino 20:09 According to the fucking fake news, bro.

Jamie Vernon 20:11 Nah, that's old news.

Joe Rogan 20:11 Fake news.

Andrew Santino 20:12 No, it's just out yesterday.

Jamie Vernon 20:14 Nah, nah, really?

Andrew Santino 20:15 Yes, yesterday.

Joe Rogan 20:16 Yeah, yeah.

Jamie Vernon 20:16 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 20:16 Yeah, they just printed it yesterday.

Andrew Santino 20:16 They publicly disavowed Kanye West and Kim Kardashian because of his position on Trump.

Jamie Vernon 20:21 Oh, I didn't even realize-

Joe Rogan 20:21 Jamie's gotta Google it.

Jamie Vernon 20:23 I was checking it out.

Joe Rogan 20:23 But that, but, but you know what?

Andrew Santino 20:24 I just checked it out. I don't believe this.

Joe Rogan 20:24 Yeah. (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 20:25 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 20:25 Jamie, fastest one-handed typer in the fucking business. Look at that, see? It's over, bitch.

Joe Rogan 20:30 22 hours ago.

Andrew Santino 20:31 Severed ties, motherfucker.

Jamie Vernon 20:32 Man.

Andrew Santino 20:33 The Daily Mail, severed ties. It's in hotnewhiphop.com.

Joe Rogan 20:37 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 20:38 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 20:39 It's on NME. What's NME?

Joe Rogan 20:43 New Media Entertainment.

Andrew Santino 20:44 Severed ties. Sever ties.

Jamie Vernon 20:47 Man.

Andrew Santino 20:48 It's over. We severed ties, motherfucker.

Joe Rogan 20:51 We're not talking to you anymore.

Andrew Santino 20:52 Woo! It's over, bitch.

Joe Rogan 20:52 You don't come to our champagne parties.

Andrew Santino 20:54 It's over, bitch.

Jamie Vernon 20:55 This is why it matters, 'cause people are waiting for that album to come out.

Joe Rogan 20:57 Watch the Throne 2, yeah.

Andrew Santino 20:59 Oh.

Joe Rogan 20:59 That's what it is.

Jamie Vernon 20:59 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 20:59 It's just more press.

Andrew Santino 21:00 Oh, they have, uh, an album?

Jamie Vernon 21:01 Yeah, a collab album.

Andrew Santino 21:02 Yeah. Well, Jay-Z's probably like, "I can't do it with this crazy motherfucker anymore."

Joe Rogan 21:06 Yeah, but you know what? This whole thing with Kanye and this whole push about getting, um, Kaepernick to have lunch with Trump-

Andrew Santino 21:11 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 21:11 ... is brilliant.

Andrew Santino 21:12 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 21:12 It's fucking br- I think he used the whole platform of SNL just to get Trump to go, "I love Kanye." He wants Trump to be so in love with, uh, Kanye wants Trump to love him so much that he's willing to actually take a meeting with someone he's been publicly shitting on for, for a year now. All Trump has been doing is saying Kaepernick is, uh, a terrible representation of this country, a bad football player, a bad person. He's been dumping, dumping, dumping. And then, Kanye is gonna sucker him and twist his mind into thinking he should actually sit and have lunch with him.

Andrew Santino 21:40 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 21:40 I, I bet my life it'll happen.

Andrew Santino 21:42 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 21:43 That Trump will go, "Okay, I'll take a meeting because I love Kanye, and it's just outta respect for Kanye." So he'll get-

Andrew Santino 21:49 That's not bad.

Joe Rogan 21:49 ... he'll get him and fucking Kaepernick in the room. I, d- I'm sw- I swear to God, watch it happen.

21:53 – 28:47

Kaepernick and the national anthem: platform protest vs. endgame and sports nationalism

Andrew Santino 21:53 I, I hope he does. But here's the thing, Donald Trump's not a cop and he's not shooting black people.

Joe Rogan 21:59 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 21:59 Like, the whole thing is bizarre.

Joe Rogan 22:00 It's, yeah, I know, it makes no sense.

Andrew Santino 22:02 And th- when Kaepernick is on his knees during the national anthem, that's bizarre too.

Joe Rogan 22:07 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 22:07 Because people are just there for a game.

Joe Rogan 22:09 Yeah, it's a game.

Andrew Santino 22:10 Like, I, I completely understand that you're, uh, disgusted by police brutality.

Joe Rogan 22:16 Sure.

Andrew Santino 22:16 I think virtually everyone is.

Joe Rogan 22:18 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 22:18 And my take on it is, it's, first of all, it's insanely difficult to be a police officer. You have a lot of people that are police officers that have no business holding that job.

Joe Rogan 22:30 Right.

Andrew Santino 22:30 They're under extreme pressure. A lot of them have PTSD, and a lot of them, they're bullies. And they get into this position because they wanna be the guy with the gun in charge.

Joe Rogan 22:40 Totally.

Andrew Santino 22:40 And then, they have an opportunity to pull that trigger and they do and they face repercussions because someone was filming it.

Joe Rogan 22:46 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Santino 22:47 And I think that shit has happened from the beginning of time.

Joe Rogan 22:49 Yeah, of course.

Andrew Santino 22:50 And there's film, there's a horrible film that we played where there was a guy, I, I posted it on my Twitter, it's fucking horrible, of a guy shooting a white guy who's crawling for his life on the flo- he's telling the guy to crawl towards him, "Let me see your hands." It's in Arizona.

Joe Rogan 23:04 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Santino 23:04 And the guy's pants have fallen down. He keeps reaching back to grab his pants. And he goes, he goes, "I will fucking shoot you if you grab your pants!" And the guy is f- crawling and his pants start falling down. He tries to grab his pants, and the guy lights him up.

Joe Rogan 23:17 God.

Andrew Santino 23:17 In the hallway of a hotel.

Joe Rogan 23:19 Yeah, fucked.

Andrew Santino 23:20 Just kills him.

Joe Rogan 23:20 Fucked.

Andrew Santino 23:21 Murdered him. The guy was crying and begging for his life, and the, the cop was making him crawl towards him. Like, why the fuck would you ever make someone crawl towards you?

Joe Rogan 23:30 That's insane.

Andrew Santino 23:30 And he's giving them all the, these confusing directions while he's in full riot gear, holding a gun. Apparently, the guy had a fake pistol, like a water pistol or a water gun, and was holding it out the window. And someone saw it and they said, "There's a guy with a gun."

Joe Rogan 23:46 Ah.

Andrew Santino 23:46 So they came in there, ready to shoot somebody already, and then they see this guy. But the guy was clearly not a threat. You see this, and this guy had already been in trouble for other police brutality and then got kicked off the force. He got acquitted, by the way. The, a, with video, got acquitted, and then-

Joe Rogan 24:03 He got acquitted of the murder?

Andrew Santino 24:04 Yes, acquitted. He murdered this guy.

Joe Rogan 24:05 With the video.

Andrew Santino 24:06 Th- with the video.

Joe Rogan 24:07 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 24:07 Got acquitted, and then afterwards, got kicked off the force for something else he did.

Joe Rogan 24:12 Right.

Andrew Santino 24:12 So, the guy was just an abusive guy.

Joe Rogan 24:15 He was a time bomb.

Andrew Santino 24:15 But he was a cop.

Joe Rogan 24:16 Yeah, he was just going off.

Andrew Santino 24:17 There's a lotta people like that. And you-

Joe Rogan 24:18 Totally.

Andrew Santino 24:19 And, and there's also some that are racist too. It's not discounting racism.

Joe Rogan 24:22 Right.

Andrew Santino 24:23 There's some that are racist too. But it's just a fucking insanely difficult job-

Joe Rogan 24:28 Right.

Andrew Santino 24:28 ... that no one respects, or very few people respect. And these people are in these situations every day where their life is in danger.

Joe Rogan 24:35 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 24:35 And their whole brain is frazzled. I'm friends with a lot of cops. I know a lot of cops from Jiu-Jitsu.

Joe Rogan 24:40 I got cops in my family.

Andrew Santino 24:41 I know a lot of cops from MMA. I know a lot. I've known a lot of cops my whole life. Like, my whole life, growing up. My, my real dad was a cop. I grew up, like, knowing cops when I was a kid and then in a ... all through martial arts, knew cops. Because cops are always taking martial arts to learn how to defend themselves.

Joe Rogan 24:58 Right.

Andrew Santino 24:59 It's a fucking insane job, man.

Joe Rogan 25:01 Yeah, it's crazy. It's fucked up.

Andrew Santino 25:03 And every day, all day long, you're dealing with people that are committing crimes. You're dealing with people that are lying. You're dealing with people that are lying to you.

Joe Rogan 25:10 Right.

Andrew Santino 25:11 You pull people over, they're lying. Either they're drunk, they're on drugs, they got a body in the trunk. It's just lies. Everyone's lying.

Joe Rogan 25:17 Even, e- even a simple pullover is a lie.

Andrew Santino 25:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:18 When ... you know how fast you were going? Like, "No, no, I think I was going under 42."

Andrew Santino 25:21 No, no, yo, it's like ... What was I doing?

Joe Rogan 25:21 Is it going over?" Yeah. (laughs)

Andrew Santino 25:22 Was I speeding? Hey, my, uh ... I, I legitimately had a broken speedometer once and, uh, the c- the cop pulled me over and I go, "This is gonna sound so fucking stupid. My speedometer doesn't work." And he's like, "Get that shit fixed." I go, "Yeah, I should."

Joe Rogan 25:34 "Yeah, I should."

Andrew Santino 25:34 Let me go. You know why? I'm white.

Joe Rogan 25:36 White dude.

Andrew Santino 25:37 White guy. And I ... was only 18 at the time, wasn't even like-

Joe Rogan 25:39 A black, a black dude. He's like, "My speedometer's broken."

Andrew Santino 25:41 He knew who I was.

Joe Rogan 25:41 He's like, "Get outta the fucking car!"

Andrew Santino 25:43 "Get outta the fucking car!"

Joe Rogan 25:44 "Get out of the fucking car!" (laughs)

Andrew Santino 25:44 "Get on the floor!"

Joe Rogan 25:45 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 25:46 Look, it ain't ... It's not even ... You know, it's not even something to joke about. I'm sad that you just joked about it.

Joe Rogan 25:51 (laughs) No, but it is fucked up.

Andrew Santino 25:53 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:53 It's fucked up.

Andrew Santino 25:54 It is fucked up, man.

Joe Rogan 25:55 But here's the thing. Right, football players like Kaepernick, people like that, they kneel because they want a vo- ... they're using their platform. I, I think-

Andrew Santino 26:02 Yeah. You see, I mean, I get that too, and it's-

Joe Rogan 26:03 Yeah, you should use your fuck- Everyone should use their platform.

Andrew Santino 26:05 Here's my thing though. Has that helped in any way?

Joe Rogan 26:09 Well, no. See, the problem is there's no, there's no ... Okay, the problem is if you said to Kaepernick, "What's your endgame?" To say, "Stop all police violence," is, like, such a vague, broad thing to go, "Yeah, just stop it." It's like, "Well, that's not ..." That ... This is ... To have a dialogue about it is what's important, but the problem is they need to have ... We need ... There needs to be a bigger goal for why people are kneeling.

Andrew Santino 26:28 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 26:28 Like, 'cause the conversation is already being had. It's not like we're kneeling so we can talk about it. Well, we're talking about it. We need to ha- ... There needs to be some kind of a, an endgame, a goal, a point of ... That it's not ... I'm not saying it's achievable. It's n- not necessarily going to happen, but you need, you need something to, to ... You need something to get to. 'Cause otherwise this is just gonna be this weird turmoil between ultimately racist people. 'Cause truly, the people that are yelling about it, that are angry, I don't give a fuck if they take a knee.

Andrew Santino 26:54 Right.

Joe Rogan 26:54 Are they still gonna play football?

Andrew Santino 26:55 Why do you care?

Joe Rogan 26:56 Yeah, like, like-

Andrew Santino 26:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:56 But ultimately, the people that are like, "You better stand up! You better stand up!" But why-

Andrew Santino 27:00 But the thing is, it's for America.

Joe Rogan 27:01 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 27:02 Like, the idea is that we're all on the same team.

Joe Rogan 27:04 I know, but this is a football game.

Andrew Santino 27:04 And if you don't wanna support the team... But why, why kneel dur- ... But why then? Like, because-

Joe Rogan 27:10 Because-

Andrew Santino 27:10 Just because people are paying attention, right?

Joe Rogan 27:11 That's exactly right, because the ... all the eyeballs are on.

Andrew Santino 27:12 Right. But th- the idea about a nation, about everybody being on the team together, is that we're supposed to support-

Joe Rogan 27:19 Right.

Andrew Santino 27:20 ... these ideals that this song is about, I pledge of allegiance to the flag, all this jazz. I mean, that's what we're doing, right?

Joe Rogan 27:27 I know, but I find it so odd that the things have anything to do with one another.

Andrew Santino 27:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:29 I said it on stage one time that I was like, "It's a game that has no bearing on the future of the United States of America." You don't do that for anything else.

Andrew Santino 27:36 Right, true.

Joe Rogan 27:37 You don't just ... You don't have, like, a dinner party and play Monopoly and someone's like, "We should say the Pledge of Allegiance."

Andrew Santino 27:41 It's one thing the UFC stopped that I really liked.

Joe Rogan 27:43 Was saying the-

Andrew Santino 27:44 They, they wouldn't do the fucking national anthem. They're like, "Well, what are we doing? We're here for cage fights." Get the fuck outta here with this national anthem.

Joe Rogan 27:49 Yeah, do you ... These, these are just two men competing at a sport.

Andrew Santino 27:50 But it was a big thing with boxing, and it still is, I think.

Joe Rogan 27:53 Oh, it's huge.

Andrew Santino 27:53 Don't they still do the national anthems before big boxing matches? And it's boring!

Joe Rogan 27:58 It's miserable.

Andrew Santino 27:59 So you see people sing and it's when people do that thing with their voice. << America >>

Joe Rogan 28:04 << America >> (laughs)

Andrew Santino 28:05 (laughs) You know?

Joe Rogan 28:05 They try to be ... They try to, they try to make the news.

Andrew Santino 28:07 << Land of the free >>

Joe Rogan 28:10 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 28:10 They do that shaky thing. << And the home ... >>

Joe Rogan 28:14 Woo!

Andrew Santino 28:18 << ... of the brave >>

Joe Rogan 28:20 Woo! Fuck yeah!

Andrew Santino 28:20 Fuck yeah!

Joe Rogan 28:22 (laughs) That's the funny thing. Every ... At any sporting event, in the middle of that home, that last stretch, there's always like 50,000 people going, "And fucking then at ... "

Andrew Santino 28:31 It's a-fucking-merica!

Joe Rogan 28:32 You're ... Like that has ... These, th- th- ... I think the crossover is so fucking silly.

Andrew Santino 28:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:36 We don't need to be singing about America at sporting events. It doesn't have anything to do with-

Andrew Santino 28:39 It doesn't have anything to do-

Joe Rogan 28:40 The Olympics-

Andrew Santino 28:41 It should be about the sport.

Joe Rogan 28:41 The Olympics, definitely.

Andrew Santino 28:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:43 That's what it's fucking about.

Andrew Santino 28:44 I-

Joe Rogan 28:44 This is my country versus your country, but d- during a-

28:47 – 40:43

Kanye at the White House meets car porn: Ford GT, Raptor, and “dope” semantics

Andrew Santino 28:47 I have my own issues about the Olympics.

Joe Rogan 28:49 You know. I know, but I'm just saying, I get the fucking national anthems at the Olympics.

Andrew Santino 28:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:52 That's what it is.

Andrew Santino 28:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:52 But this is just the Packers versus fucking, you know, the Buccaneers. That ha- ... The, the ... This has nothing to do with the bearing of American future.

Andrew Santino 29:00 I agree.

Joe Rogan 29:00 "Oh, well, the soldiers fought for your right to be able to put ..." Soldiers fought for your right to be able to do fucking everything. To do ... Do we have to say it-

Andrew Santino 29:05 Everything.

Joe Rogan 29:05 ... before this podcast?

Andrew Santino 29:06 Right. We should.

Joe Rogan 29:07 Okay, we should right now.

Andrew Santino 29:08 That's why there's a goddamn flag behind me, Cheeto Santino.

Joe Rogan 29:11 No shit. (laughs)

Andrew Santino 29:11 Goddamn American flag, motherfucker.

Joe Rogan 29:12 Yeah, but secretly, the fans don't know that Joe hates the American flag.

Andrew Santino 29:15 Look what's on my phone, bitch. It's the goddamn American flag-

Joe Rogan 29:17 See, this is, this, this is, uh-

Andrew Santino 29:19 ... on my lock screen, motherfucker.

Joe Rogan 29:20 This is trolling. He's trolling.

Andrew Santino 29:21 Woo!

Joe Rogan 29:22 Joe is actually Canadian. Nobody knows that.

Andrew Santino 29:24 Shh.

Joe Rogan 29:24 Joe's a Canadian. (laughs)

Andrew Santino 29:25 Keep it down, bro. They'll hear us.

Joe Rogan 29:26 The conspiracy Rogan theorists online are like, "Is Joe actually born in Canada?" (laughs)

Andrew Santino 29:30 I've been doing Canadian propaganda on the sneak tip for years.

Joe Rogan 29:35 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 29:35 For years.

Joe Rogan 29:35 Toronto's a great city.

Andrew Santino 29:37 It's my favorite.

Joe Rogan 29:38 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Santino 29:39 Reno ... I'm looking at you with that Maker's ... I'm kidding. Jealous.

Joe Rogan 29:41 I know. I'm loving every second of it. I-

Andrew Santino 29:43 20, 20 days.

Joe Rogan 29:43 This is like an, this is like an ad for, against Sober October.

Andrew Santino 29:45 Ah!

Joe Rogan 29:45 It's my birthday on Tuesday. I'm not not drinking for, for October.

Andrew Santino 29:48 I get it, man. Why should you?

Joe Rogan 29:50 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 29:50 What, what did you think you'd be ... Do you think you would do Sober October and, like, take a day off for your birthday and then get back to sober and then owe a day at the end of the month?

Joe Rogan 30:00 No, I-

Andrew Santino 30:00 Or start a day early?

Joe Rogan 30:01 I c- I guess I could do it, but I don't, I don't ... I just, I don't ... Nah, Jamie's do- ... What do you think? I can't do it?

Jamie Vernon 30:06 Uh, no.

Joe Rogan 30:06 I couldn't do it.

Andrew Santino 30:06 Do you think you would do Sober November?... what about sober February? It's only 28 days. That's what's fucked up about Black History Month.

Joe Rogan 30:12 November is every month. That it's the shortest day of the month.

Andrew Santino 30:15 The shortest month.

Joe Rogan 30:16 I said, you say they gave them. What if they, what if, what if it was picked?

Andrew Santino 30:19 Nah.

Joe Rogan 30:19 What if the NAACP picked it?

Andrew Santino 30:20 Doubt it.

Joe Rogan 30:21 Yeah. (laughs) Just white-

Andrew Santino 30:23 Just whitey. White dude.

Joe Rogan 30:24 White people being like, "It's the shortest day."

Andrew Santino 30:26 White ass, crack ass.

Joe Rogan 30:27 Shortest month, we don't give a. Crack ass, fucking white crusty looking-

Andrew Santino 30:30 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:30 ... bologna stinking motherfuckers.

Andrew Santino 30:32 I wish there was a good slur for breeders. You know, for straight people.

Joe Rogan 30:37 Um.

Andrew Santino 30:37 They're like matched up with faggot.

Joe Rogan 30:39 Yeah, something like, uh-

Andrew Santino 30:41 You know what I mean? Wouldn't it be good if they had one for us?

Joe Rogan 30:45 Boring. (laughs) Normal c-

Andrew Santino 30:46 So you could use it on yourself.

Joe Rogan 30:48 Nor, you fucking normal.

Andrew Santino 30:49 You know?

Joe Rogan 30:49 You fucking basic is a pretty, uh, easy word.

Andrew Santino 30:52 Goddamn normies. Basic ass bitch.

Joe Rogan 30:53 Your word. Basic fucking breeding ass-

Andrew Santino 30:54 Going out, penis in vagina, you fake it.

Joe Rogan 30:56 Putting dicks in pussies like fucking (laughs) antiquated losers.

Andrew Santino 31:01 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 31:01 Fucking archaic monkeys.

Andrew Santino 31:04 Stupid ass sperm soaking egg motherfuckers.

Joe Rogan 31:06 Look at this motherfucker. What, are you coming inside of women, you fucking loser?

Andrew Santino 31:10 What are you doing, trying to make more people-

Joe Rogan 31:12 You basic bitch.

Andrew Santino 31:12 ... like yourself, you fucking idiot?

Joe Rogan 31:14 You fucking loser.

Andrew Santino 31:15 Nah.

Joe Rogan 31:15 There should be a word.

Andrew Santino 31:17 Yeah. Oh.

Joe Rogan 31:18 I do, I do think there wasn't-

Andrew Santino 31:19 How about that thing that I put on my Instagram yesterday?

Joe Rogan 31:20 Huh?

Andrew Santino 31:20 That, uh, you shouldn't say pregnant woman.

Joe Rogan 31:23 Oh, yeah.

Andrew Santino 31:23 You shouldn't assume the, the gender-

Joe Rogan 31:25 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 31:25 ... of someone who's pregnant.

Joe Rogan 31:26 It, you're supposed to say, uh-

Andrew Santino 31:28 Look at the post though, 'cause that-

Joe Rogan 31:28 ... pregnant someone?

Andrew Santino 31:29 That's a, people are like, "That's a troll, right? That's the Onion." No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Joe Rogan 31:32 No, that's real shit. (laughs)

Andrew Santino 31:34 We are in the fucking Twilight Zone right now.

Joe Rogan 31:36 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 31:37 Here it is.

Joe Rogan 31:38 Send us in.

Andrew Santino 31:38 "People of all genders can become pregnant because people of all genders can have the reproductive organs to do so." What in the holy fuck?

Joe Rogan 31:46 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 31:46 Instead of say- instead of saying, "pregnant women," try using the phrase, "pregnant people." Keep going down. "Because people of all genders can fall pregnant."

Joe Rogan 31:56 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 31:57 You can fall pregnant.

Joe Rogan 31:57 You can fall, not dead.

Andrew Santino 31:59 Who the fuck falls pregnant?

Joe Rogan 32:01 I fell pregnant, Joe.

Andrew Santino 32:02 Oh.

Joe Rogan 32:03 I've fallen pregnant because of you.

Andrew Santino 32:04 Well, if people of all genders can fall pregnant, can you call in if you're a man? Can you call in work and say, "Hey, I'm not gonna be in today because I fell pregnant"?

Jamie Vernon 32:12 They, they do give, uh, that, the maternity leave-

Joe Rogan 32:15 Maternity leave?

Jamie Vernon 32:15 ... maternity leave for guys, yeah.

Andrew Santino 32:16 Oh, good.

Jamie Vernon 32:17 Or-

Andrew Santino 32:17 I identify as pregnant.

Joe Rogan 32:18 Um, I'm, I, I am f- I've just fallen pregnant, I need to not come into work.

Andrew Santino 32:22 Yeah. What, how does that work?

Joe Rogan 32:23 See, but this is what's, this is, this is, see, this is why this is a l- a propaganda bullshit lie of like getting us all on the same page of, of, uh, n- not all genders can, can have reproductive org- that's not true.

Andrew Santino 32:35 The, but this is what's going on.

Joe Rogan 32:35 Women can have reproductive organs.

Andrew Santino 32:36 This, it's, this is really simple.

Joe Rogan 32:38 You can't fabricate them.

Andrew Santino 32:39 It is too easy to survive.

Joe Rogan 32:42 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 32:42 So people are coming up with all sorts of different kinds of conflicts that, that are not real. I guarantee you, all those people that are doing this, they're not working out three hours a day.

Joe Rogan 32:52 Fucking no.

Andrew Santino 32:52 'Cause if they did, they wouldn't be paying any attention to this shit.

Joe Rogan 32:55 Yeah, it's nonsense.

Andrew Santino 32:55 They'd be like, "This is nonsense." Instead of saying, "Women are pregnant," say, instead of saying, "pregnant women," try using the phrase, "pregnant people."

Joe Rogan 33:04 Oh, well they corrected themselves. The post should say, "become pregnant" instead of "fall pregnant."

Andrew Santino 33:07 Oh.

Joe Rogan 33:07 Thank you to our followers who pointed this out.

Andrew Santino 33:09 Fuck you. You put it, you wrote that yourself. "The language you use affects the people around you. People of all genders can become pregnant because people of all genders can have the reproductive organs to do so. When talking about pregnancy, try to use the language that is inclusive of people of all genders." Well, there's 78 different genders now.

Joe Rogan 33:29 79, Joe. Don't be so fucking ignorant.

Andrew Santino 33:32 Oh, God.

Joe Rogan 33:32 Goddammit, dude.

Andrew Santino 33:33 I'm so weak. I hate when I do that.

Joe Rogan 33:34 You know it's ... No, this, this-

Andrew Santino 33:35 I hate when I misgender.

Joe Rogan 33:36 This kind of bullshit is due to boredom.

Andrew Santino 33:39 It's boredom.

Joe Rogan 33:39 This is complete boredom.

Andrew Santino 33:40 Well, it's also weak pussies.

Joe Rogan 33:42 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 33:42 These people that are doing this, I guarantee you, if they're, if this is where you're looking for conflict-

Joe Rogan 33:47 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 33:47 ... you, your fucking whole life is falling apart. You're a mess. This idea that you're p- proposing that people of all, first of all, it's insulting to women. It should be deeply insulting.

Joe Rogan 34:00 Yeah, no shit.

Andrew Santino 34:00 That people of all genders can be pregnant. The fuck they can.

Joe Rogan 34:04 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 34:04 You know how goddamn difficult it is for a woman? I, you're, you, your w- your wife hasn't been pregnant yet, but let me tell you something, man. I've seen a lot of women pregnant. It's rough.

Joe Rogan 34:13 It's insane.

Andrew Santino 34:14 It's hard.

Joe Rogan 34:15 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 34:15 Women get pregnant.

Joe Rogan 34:17 Yep.

Andrew Santino 34:17 And it's hard for them.

Joe Rogan 34:18 Yep, that's who gets pregnant.

Andrew Santino 34:19 It's fucking difficult. Their whole body goes through these crazy hormonal changes. They gain a shit ton of weight, they get insecure, they have crazy mood swings.

Joe Rogan 34:27 You have chemicals in their brain changes.

Andrew Santino 34:29 They're subjected to postpartum depression-

Joe Rogan 34:30 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 34:30 ... where they get suicidal. It happens in a lot of women. The idea that all genders, all genders-

Joe Rogan 34:36 No.

Andrew Santino 34:36 No. Bullshit!

Joe Rogan 34:37 Bullshit.

Andrew Santino 34:38 Lies! Biology, motherfucker.

Joe Rogan 34:40 You fucking liars!

Andrew Santino 34:41 Science!

Joe Rogan 34:41 There's only fuck, there's only, there's only one, there's only one gender that can become pregnant and it's a woman.

Andrew Santino 34:45 Yes, that's it.

Joe Rogan 34:46 That's a woman, and that's the end of the discussion.

Andrew Santino 34:47 But, but there's this-

Joe Rogan 34:48 It's not an argument.

Andrew Santino 34:49 There's this new way of talking about things that's filled with nonsense. And they, this is where the fascism lies. They want you to adhere to their rules.

Joe Rogan 35:01 Yeah, 100%. And, and if you don't-

Andrew Santino 35:03 And if they try to enforce this-

Joe Rogan 35:04 You're, you're the piece of shit.

Andrew Santino 35:05 ... they shame you-

Joe Rogan 35:06 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 35:06 ... they try to go after you.

Joe Rogan 35:07 Fucking asshole.

Andrew Santino 35:08 But what they are saying is literally against science.

Joe Rogan 35:11 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 35:12 It's not scientific.

Joe Rogan 35:13 Right.

Andrew Santino 35:13 It's not true. Now, if you wanna tell me that some people like to identify as a woman and you should talk to them as a woman and give them a woman's name, sure.

Joe Rogan 35:22 Totally. I don't care that you think it is.

Andrew Santino 35:23 No problem.

Joe Rogan 35:24 If you want i- i- listen, that, that's my whole thing. If you say to me, "I'm not a man, I'm a woman," I'll go-

Andrew Santino 35:28 Okay.

Joe Rogan 35:28 ... "Good, good for you." That's fine. I don't, I don't have any problem with-

Andrew Santino 35:31 I like, I identify as a woman. Okay.

Joe Rogan 35:31 Great, fine. I don't give a fuck what you-

Andrew Santino 35:33 Okay.

Joe Rogan 35:33 That's fine. But you can't stand there and tell me that anybody other than a woman can get pregnant and have a child. I, the, the, this is, now we're talking about like, fake semantics. This is pho- that's phony shit.

Andrew Santino 35:43 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 35:44 You've made that up.

Andrew Santino 35:45 It's also idiots. It's altas- these weak people, these weak minded, the way I described the lady who tried to bring a fucking emotional support squirrel-

Joe Rogan 35:54 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 35:54 ... on the airplane.

Joe Rogan 35:54 What, what airline was it, by the way? Spirit?

Andrew Santino 35:57 Frontier.

Joe Rogan 35:57 Oh, I was hoping for Spirit.

Andrew Santino 35:57 Well, let's hear it on here. Kanye talks-

Joe Rogan 35:59 Yeah, he's-

Andrew Santino 35:59 ... prison reform with Trump.

Joe Rogan 36:00 They had lunch.

Jamie Vernon 36:01 This is like-

Andrew Santino 36:01 Okay, play this.

Jamie Vernon 36:02 I thought this was live, but this is just a couple minutes ago.

Andrew Santino 36:03 Play this, please. Let's, let's hear some volume here.

Kanye West 36:05 And, and make more money. That's one thing, I've never stepped into a situation where I didn't make people more money. So we can empower pharmaceuticals, we can empower our industries-

Andrew Santino 36:14 Donald's nodding.

Joe Rogan 36:15 Fuck yeah.

Kanye West 36:16 We can empower our factories, we can bring not only Adidas on shore, we can bring Foxconn to set up a factory in, I think, Minnesota. 53,000-

Jamie Vernon 36:24 Wisconsin. Yeah, Wisconsin.

Kanye West 36:26 Yeah, Wisconsin. They got 4000 jobs.

Andrew Santino 36:27 Yeah, Wisconsin.

Joe Rogan 36:27 Wisconsin.

Jamie Vernon 36:27 It's Wisconsin.

Joe Rogan 36:28 I love Wisconsin.

Kanye West 36:29 People making $53,000 a year, and one of the things we gotta set is Ford to have the highest design, the dopest cars, the most amazing. I don't really say dope, I don't say negative words and try to flip them, we just say positive, lovely, divine, universal words.

Andrew Santino 36:43 Okay, stop. I'm getting stupid just listening to this.

Joe Rogan 36:45 Yeah, Jesus fucking Christ.

Andrew Santino 36:46 Listen, you dumb motherfucker. Ford makes dope cars. Okay?

Joe Rogan 36:49 Why is he on this shit?

Andrew Santino 36:50 You ever see a goddamn Mustang GT350R? That's a dope car.

Joe Rogan 36:54 You ever seen a-

Andrew Santino 36:54 Jamie, post up a picture of a Mustang, Shelby Mustang GT350R.

Joe Rogan 37:00 GT350R.

Andrew Santino 37:00 Quickly, quickly-

Joe Rogan 37:02 You know what, uh-

Andrew Santino 37:02 ... while the taste of that stupidity is still in my fucking brain.

Joe Rogan 37:06 (laughs) That shit is in my mouth.

Andrew Santino 37:06 Give me a photo. (imitates explosion) The new... Oh, God. That's America, right there. You tell me that's not dope, you son of a bitch? Jesus.

Joe Rogan 37:15 There it is. Top left, top left.

Andrew Santino 37:16 That one, the one there, right there.

Joe Rogan 37:17 Yeah, there you go.

Andrew Santino 37:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:18 That's bad as fuck.

Andrew Santino 37:19 Come on, son. That's dope.

Joe Rogan 37:22 You know what I got, I got, I got to drive that F, uh, the Raptor, the F-150 Raptor? That thing is fun as fuck.

Andrew Santino 37:26 How about drive the Ford GT, the one that John Cena's just sold for $1.3 million? Pull up John Cena's Ford GT. You don't think that's dope? Well, I'm not talking to you anymore because our fucking conversation is over. Not with the doors up like an asshole at a fucking mall.

Joe Rogan 37:41 Not with the doors up. Jamie!

Andrew Santino 37:43 That's, that's what I'm looking at. That's it right there.

Joe Rogan 37:44 Look at that, fucking dope that is.

Andrew Santino 37:45 Go big. (gasps) If that's not dope, Kanye...

Joe Rogan 37:50 (laughs) I don't know what's dope.

Andrew Santino 37:51 What are you gonna f- teach the people at Ford how to design cars? Shut the fuck up and make your shitty slides.

Joe Rogan 37:58 Positive words, divine.

Andrew Santino 37:59 Make your, your slides that are too short or these goddamn Yeezys that Jamie bought for me that I'm- will never wear.

Joe Rogan 38:04 Or how, show Joe, Joe's never seen that video-

Andrew Santino 38:06 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 38:06 ... with the little, with the little pump, right? The fucking...

Jamie Vernon 38:08 Oh, no.

Andrew Santino 38:09 I don't know! No!

Joe Rogan 38:10 Show him the picture of it.

Andrew Santino 38:11 You're not gonna play it.

Jamie Vernon 38:12 I didn't bring it up.

Andrew Santino 38:12 No!

Joe Rogan 38:13 Show him the picture.

Andrew Santino 38:14 No!

Joe Rogan 38:14 Jamie, show him the picture.

Andrew Santino 38:15 No!

Joe Rogan 38:15 Show him.

Andrew Santino 38:15 Where they're wearing the big suits?

Joe Rogan 38:16 (laughs) Yeah. Oh, he's seen it.

Jamie Vernon 38:17 Yeah, yeah, I saw the box. It's like they're wearing refrigerator boxes.

Joe Rogan 38:20 This guy... Okay, so I'm just saying this guy is trying to tell us about being dope. He's, this is, this is his music video. (laughs)

Andrew Santino 38:24 Look at that fucking car. You don't think that's dope? That might be the dopest car the world has ever known, motherfucker.

Joe Rogan 38:30 It's s- it's slick as fuck.

Andrew Santino 38:31 Pull up black Ford GT with red stripes. This might be the most beautiful car I've ever... It's... Okay, let me rephrase this. Most beautiful modern car I've ever seen.

Joe Rogan 38:43 Yeah, it's a sexy fucking car. Is that, who is that, Jay? Look at Jay.

Andrew Santino 38:46 Look at that fucking thing, man. Look at that thing. Good googly.

Joe Rogan 38:51 Look at Jay.

Andrew Santino 38:51 What a beast of a fucking automobile, Kanye.

Joe Rogan 38:54 That is fucking cold as ice.

Jamie Vernon 38:56 I think he was just saying to make them here.

Andrew Santino 38:57 Shut up.

Joe Rogan 38:59 Jamie, goddammit.

Andrew Santino 39:01 You shut the fuck up.

Joe Rogan 39:02 You shut the fuck up.

Jamie Vernon 39:05 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 39:05 (laughs) It's all so stupid.

Joe Rogan 39:07 It's so stupid.

Andrew Santino 39:08 Why is he listening to Kanye West? Give him a spelling bee first. Give him a spelling bee and then you can say, "Listen, if you can get-"

Joe Rogan 39:15 He... (laughs)

Andrew Santino 39:16 (laughs) "10 out of 20 words-"

Joe Rogan 39:18 "10 out of 20 words."

Andrew Santino 39:19 "... correctly without using the red squiggly line underneath the, on your phone. If you can get- "

Joe Rogan 39:25 But the fact that Donald's nodding at him is just like, "I know. I know."

Andrew Santino 39:28 He is. Oh, Wisconsin. Wisconsin.

Joe Rogan 39:29 "Wisconsin." Yeah.

Andrew Santino 39:30 He's sitting there going, "Boy..."

Joe Rogan 39:31 "It should be dope. Ford should be doper, Kanye."

Andrew Santino 39:34 He's probably, he's probably sitting there going, "How the fuck did I get to this position where I'm in the Oval Office listening to a guy..."

Joe Rogan 39:37 Well, you know why? Because he wanted to see Ki- Kim Kardashian so bad. He was like, "I'll let this motherfucker come back."

Andrew Santino 39:42 (laughs) Look at his face. Look at Donald's face. "Mm-hmm, yes. Mm-hmm."

Joe Rogan 39:46 Imagine these photographers have like, "Man, f- I've taken..." He's like, they've been in such important rooms and they're like, "Now I'm here."

Andrew Santino 39:52 But see, the Kanye thing is like they just let him rant about shit and no, no one goes, "Wait, what?"

Joe Rogan 39:57 He needs to, he needs to take his fucking meds.

Andrew Santino 39:59 Like, no one just, no one stops it.

Joe Rogan 39:59 He's not taking his fucking meds. He even said that he stopped taking meds, right, Jamie? Isn't that the whole thing? It's like, yeah, take your fucking meds, bro. Level up.

Andrew Santino 40:05 (sighs) Well, the meds made him gain a ton of weight and he looked really fucking spaced out. Did you ever see fat Kanye?

Joe Rogan 40:11 Yeah, fat Kanye is-

Andrew Santino 40:12 Pull a picture of fat Kanye with the meds.

Joe Rogan 40:14 Fat Kanye.

Andrew Santino 40:14 So, what happened was after he gave his support for Donald Trump, he said, "I didn't vote but if I voted, I would have voted on Trump."

Joe Rogan 40:22 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Santino 40:23 Like, look how big he got. They, they loaded him up with pills and when they loaded him up with pills, he vanished for a while, canceled his tour. He was like having a fucking serious nervous breakdown and he got big fat.

Joe Rogan 40:36 That's usually, that's when he was, that's when he was on the pills.

Andrew Santino 40:39 Oh, yeah. He was on-

Joe Rogan 40:39 Yeah, but I bet you he's mentally fucking stable.

Andrew Santino 40:41 Nah.

Joe Rogan 40:41 I'd rather be fat and stable.

40:43 – 48:03

Kanye, meds, and creativity: stability vs. artistry and self-awareness

Andrew Santino 40:43 Well, this is what I think because of Sober October. I think he just needs to work out.

Joe Rogan 40:47 See, I- I was just gonna say, I don't, I don't, I don't think, I don't think it's a part of his lifestyle. I think his lifestyle is so-

Andrew Santino 40:53 Well, that's not true because one of my friends was his trainer.

Joe Rogan 40:55 So, he does work out?

Andrew Santino 40:56 He had a trainer for a while.

Joe Rogan 40:57 See, I feel like he doesn't work... He seems like a guy that just doesn't have the f-

Andrew Santino 41:01 He, he had a trainer.

Joe Rogan 41:02 Yeah?

Andrew Santino 41:02 Trust me. Yeah. That's-

Joe Rogan 41:04 That's when he lost weight after all this bullshit.

Andrew Santino 41:05 It was a long time ago.

Joe Rogan 41:06 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 41:07 He had a trainer... (sighs) I wanna say my friend was doing like-

Joe Rogan 41:11 I see he looks really good, in good, great shape there.

Andrew Santino 41:13 ... six or seven years ago. Yeah. Well, you know, I don't wanna disclose any trainer-client confidential shit, but-

Joe Rogan 41:19 Do it.

Andrew Santino 41:19 ... he was working out.

Joe Rogan 41:20 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Santino 41:21 He was working out. But the, the point is-

Joe Rogan 41:23 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 41:23 ... look, the guy's fucking obviously a little loony.

Joe Rogan 41:26 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Santino 41:26 But that's also why he's so fucking creative.

Joe Rogan 41:28 Fuck yeah.

Andrew Santino 41:29 I mean, that's why his music is so good. I mean, I- I don't think you have to be completely normal. Look, most of my best friends are out of their fucking minds. There's nothing-

Joe Rogan 41:38 You're not, you're not fucking normal.

Andrew Santino 41:39 I'm not normal.

Joe Rogan 41:39 Yeah, no.

Andrew Santino 41:40 I got real problems.

Joe Rogan 41:41 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 41:41 All right?

Joe Rogan 41:42 We all do. Well, we all do. Anybody that's good at something does.

Andrew Santino 41:43 But I also have a lot of self-examination and that's what he's lacking. The reason why he can have-

Joe Rogan 41:47 Well, self- yeah, self-awareness.

Andrew Santino 41:48 Yes.

Joe Rogan 41:48 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 41:49 The re- I examine the things that I think and say and how I interact with people and I don't always get it right, but when I see him doing that, holding court in front of the President of United States with a MAGA hat on, like in front of all these fucking people taking pictures of him, I'm like, "This is preposterous."

Joe Rogan 42:05 Right. Yeah, it's crazy.

Andrew Santino 42:05 I don't use words like dope because I try to use only positive like lovely. Dope is positive!

Joe Rogan 42:10 Divine.

Andrew Santino 42:11 It's dope. Like you- you sent me a text and I sent you a text. Let's do 10:00 AM. Dope.

Joe Rogan 42:14 Dope.

Andrew Santino 42:15 Dope.

Joe Rogan 42:15 Great.

Andrew Santino 42:15 Perfect.

Joe Rogan 42:16 Plus.

Andrew Santino 42:16 Great. Love it.

Joe Rogan 42:17 Awesome. Yeah. (laughs)

Andrew Santino 42:18 It's not negative.

Joe Rogan 42:19 Next time you text me, (laughs) I'm gonna go, "Divine."

Andrew Santino 42:21 Yeah. If I c- Oh, when I saw your car. I was like, "Dude, that's a dope car."

Joe Rogan 42:24 It's divine, Joe.

Andrew Santino 42:25 Oh. It's lovely.

Joe Rogan 42:26 It's lovely. (laughs) It's positive. Don't use-

Andrew Santino 42:28 It's wonderful.

Joe Rogan 42:28 It's wonderful.

Andrew Santino 42:29 I've said wonderful a few times in all earnest-y and I always feel like an asshole.

Joe Rogan 42:32 Wonderful. Well, you sound like a bitch a little bit.

Andrew Santino 42:34 A little bit.

Joe Rogan 42:34 "Hey, how w- how was your, how was that thing you did yesterday?"

Andrew Santino 42:37 "It was wonderful."

Joe Rogan 42:38 Oh, okay. (laughs)

Andrew Santino 42:38 It was wonderful. It's like you're-

Joe Rogan 42:39 What, did you swallow cocks the whole time? (laughs)

Andrew Santino 42:41 That's one of those things (laughs) it's one of those words that you use when you're hanging around with actors.

Joe Rogan 42:45 Yeah. Oh, my God. Wonderful.

Andrew Santino 42:47 Like, "It was, it was wonderful." It was a wonderful performance.

Joe Rogan 42:47 Wonderful performance.

Andrew Santino 42:48 Especially when you're talking about a woman. She was exquisite.

Joe Rogan 42:51 Wonderful.

Andrew Santino 42:52 Her performance was so wonderful.

Joe Rogan 42:54 You know the word that I hate?

Andrew Santino 42:55 It was amazing. I'm a supporter of, big supporter of women.

Joe Rogan 42:57 Brilliant. Brilliant. I hate brilliant in the actor community.

Andrew Santino 42:59 Really?

Joe Rogan 42:59 People say brilliant, it bothers me so when they go, "Oh my God, just brilliant." You're like... (laughs)

Andrew Santino 43:03 Unless it's brilliant.

Joe Rogan 43:04 Yeah, but the rarity of that word should be-

Andrew Santino 43:06 Right.

Joe Rogan 43:06 It should be so, so... It should be used so less.

Andrew Santino 43:09 But you go see Roger Waters at the Hollywood Bowl and you're like, "Fuck, it was brilliant."

Joe Rogan 43:13 Big difference.

Andrew Santino 43:14 Right.

Joe Rogan 43:14 That's... Of course. That's a hu-

Andrew Santino 43:15 That is brilliant.

Joe Rogan 43:17 Yes, that is brilliant.

Andrew Santino 43:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:17 But that's, that's decades of hard work and talent-

Andrew Santino 43:20 Right.

Joe Rogan 43:20 And so many things coming together to make... I watched him do The Wall here, what, three years ago at Staples Center?

Andrew Santino 43:26 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 43:26 And, and I was...... soberish, let's just say that. I was soberish. I was micro-dosing-

Andrew Santino 43:31 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 43:31 ... and I was soberish.

Andrew Santino 43:33 Ish.

Joe Rogan 43:33 And it, and it... Yeah, it was ish. I wasn't, like, lit up, but I was, like, in a good space. It was maybe one of the most incredible visual things, visual concerts I've ever seen in my fucking life.

Andrew Santino 43:43 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 43:43 To watch them... You ever seen that they build the wall on stage as he's performing and they tear it down in the middle of it all?

Andrew Santino 43:49 Damn.

Joe Rogan 43:50 It was fucking, it was visually one of the most stunning concerts I've ever been a part of. To watch them make... It's not just a band playing. It was them making visual art while he was m- telling this story through music, and I was like, "This is why I'll pay hundreds of dollars to watch somebody." Not, not just to hear fucking Tom Petty wail out w- what... You know, those tickets are the same amount of money, but you don't get the show. Like, with Waters you get, like, this fucking visual experience.

Andrew Santino 44:17 Mm.

Joe Rogan 44:17 He's incredible, man.

Andrew Santino 44:19 Yeah. He's got a lot of-

Joe Rogan 44:20 He's fucking incredible.

Andrew Santino 44:21 ... crazy anti-Trump shit at his concerts too, right? With pig heads and shit.

Joe Rogan 44:24 Yeah, a lot of government, a lot of government shit. Yeah, he gets into a lot of that bullshit. But, I mean, it's v- it's, it's visually stunning as fuck.

Andrew Santino 44:29 You think he's nuts?

Joe Rogan 44:30 Yeah, beautifully nuts.

Andrew Santino 44:31 Right, 'cause he's so... Uh, that's what I was thinking. Uh, he's so good-

Joe Rogan 44:35 He's beautifully insane.

Andrew Santino 44:36 ... like, he has to be crazy.

Joe Rogan 44:36 Yes.

Andrew Santino 44:37 Like, look at all these airplanes flying overhead and all this-

Joe Rogan 44:39 They float, yeah, they float big pigs over you that drop, uh, propaganda notes and shit.

Andrew Santino 44:44 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 44:44 It's dope as fuck. Dope.

Andrew Santino 44:47 It's dope.

Joe Rogan 44:47 It is dope.

Andrew Santino 44:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:48 It's fucking incredible.

Andrew Santino 44:49 Mm. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:50 But, I mean, vi- that's what I'm saying. Visually it's fucking, uh, just, uh, unbelievably beautiful, man.

Andrew Santino 44:54 So is the bl-... Jamie, you're, you're a part of Black Twitter. Is the Black community abandoning Kanye and are only white people accepting him now? That's, uh...

Joe Rogan 45:02 Jamie, you're Black.

Andrew Santino 45:03 So I see a lot of the alt, alt-white people. Or, excuse me, alt-right. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 45:08 I think his first-

Andrew Santino 45:08 Did he say alt-white? I don't think so.

Joe Rogan 45:10 Jamie's part of the-

Andrew Santino 45:11 What's alt-white?

Joe Rogan 45:11 Jamie's part of the alt-Black community.

Andrew Santino 45:12 Let's make that. Let's make alt-white. Let's define it right now. What's alt-white? What would you call alt-white?

Joe Rogan 45:17 Alt, alt-white would be, um, not alt-right yet. They're not there yet.

Andrew Santino 45:23 Huh.

Joe Rogan 45:24 Alt-white is alt-

Andrew Santino 45:25 In the batter's box?

Joe Rogan 45:26 Yeah, they're, like, on their way. (laughs)

Andrew Santino 45:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 45:27 They're next up. (laughs)

Andrew Santino 45:30 (laughs) Wha- (laughs) What's alt-white? What would you call alt-white? Who, like... Give me an example of a person who's alt-white.

Joe Rogan 45:37 Who's a-

Andrew Santino 45:37 Okay.

Joe Rogan 45:38 Who's a good alt-whiter?

Andrew Santino 45:39 Here's one, here's one. Here's one.

Joe Rogan 45:40 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Santino 45:41 Um, the fucking Dilbert guy, Scott Adams. He's alt-white.

Joe Rogan 45:45 Who's that?

Andrew Santino 45:46 'Cause he's not alt-right, right? He's a b- a really brilliant guy, but he's, like, sorta-

Joe Rogan 45:51 Oh, the comic ch- uh- series?

Andrew Santino 45:52 Seems like... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:53 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 45:53 Seems like he ha-... And I like the guy a lot, but it seems like he had these ideas about Trump, and now he's always just trying to defend them with some sort of circular logic and weird phrasing.

Joe Rogan 46:03 Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Santino 46:03 And... He's a s- super smart guy, but he never says a single negative thing about Trump. It's always, "Well, he's a brilliant negotiator, and what he's doing is a strategy, and he's-

Joe Rogan 46:11 But don't you see-

Andrew Santino 46:11 ... very persuasive." And I'm like, "Yeah, is he? Is that what's going on? Or is he just, like, flying by the seat of his pants 'cause he's a fucking maniac? And are you just trying to, like, sort of j- justify all the other shit that you've said about him that's really good?"

Joe Rogan 46:24 That's what they do.

Andrew Santino 46:25 'Cause that's-

Joe Rogan 46:25 That's what it seems like to me.

Andrew Santino 46:26 And I like Scott Adams.

Joe Rogan 46:28 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 46:28 A lot.

Joe Rogan 46:29 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 46:29 I like him.

Joe Rogan 46:30 I just think he's-

Andrew Santino 46:30 He's a very nice guy.

Joe Rogan 46:31 ... he's alt-white.

Andrew Santino 46:32 Alt-white.

Joe Rogan 46:32 He, they dance on this line of, like-

Andrew Santino 46:34 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 46:34 Th- th- listen. They-

Andrew Santino 46:35 Not offensive.

Joe Rogan 46:36 No, no, no.

Andrew Santino 46:36 I'd have him over my house.

Joe Rogan 46:37 No, they just-

Andrew Santino 46:38 I'd have dinner with him.

Joe Rogan 46:39 He's more-

Andrew Santino 46:39 Wonderful guy.

Joe Rogan 46:40 ... he's, he, he's more into those positions than he wants to probably admit. But from a surface level-

Andrew Santino 46:47 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 46:47 ... he's like, "No, I, I..." You know, like...

Andrew Santino 46:50 What positions?

Joe Rogan 46:51 Uh-

Andrew Santino 46:51 Doggy style?

Joe Rogan 46:52 Al- alt-right posi-... No, no, no. Mission.

Andrew Santino 46:53 What's an alt-whi-... How do you think alt-white people fuck?

Joe Rogan 46:56 They don't fuck.

Andrew Santino 46:57 They stand up in the shower.

Joe Rogan 46:59 They, uh, they-

Andrew Santino 47:00 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:02 (laughs) They do this the whole time they fuck.

Andrew Santino 47:04 If you do that-

Joe Rogan 47:04 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 47:05 If you fuck with one hand up like Hitler, but that hand is touching the glass in the shower-

Joe Rogan 47:09 Then it's, yeah.

Andrew Santino 47:10 ... is that-

Joe Rogan 47:10 That's alt-

Andrew Santino 47:10 Is that racist?

Joe Rogan 47:11 That's alt-white fucking.

Andrew Santino 47:12 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:12 This is alt-white fucking. (laughs) It's, this is, is... (laughs)

Andrew Santino 47:18 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:19 I think there's a lotta alt-whites out there.

Andrew Santino 47:21 Let's, let's figure out who, who is alt-white.

Joe Rogan 47:23 I'm trying to think who's-

Andrew Santino 47:24 What do you call alt-white?

Joe Rogan 47:24 ... who's my best example of an alt-white person that I know that's, like-

Andrew Santino 47:26 Okay, like, one of them, one of them hot broads that's always talking about white people issues.

Joe Rogan 47:31 Is Tomi Lahren alt-

Andrew Santino 47:32 Alt-white.

Joe Rogan 47:33 ... alt-wh- alt-white? Yeah.

Andrew Santino 47:33 Alt-white.

Joe Rogan 47:33 She's alt-white.

Andrew Santino 47:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:34 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 47:34 Alt-white. Not alt-right, but alt-white.

Joe Rogan 47:37 Because you know what's so clever about that fucking chick?

Andrew Santino 47:39 What?

Joe Rogan 47:39 That's sh-... She, she did an interview with that Trevor Noah kid on, um, what? The Daily Show. And then afterwards they hung out and they... Paparazzi had pictures of them smiling and hugging and all shit, you know, in the streets, because Hollywood is fake as fuck. Like, she does this game, but it's like she's not fucking racist. She doesn't hate people of color. She likes to take these-

Andrew Santino 47:56 She's provocative.

Joe Rogan 47:56 She's provocative.

Andrew Santino 47:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:57 She likes to take c- conservative stances.

Andrew Santino 47:59 Well, that's what they say about Ann Coulter, that if you talk to Ann Coulter, she's actually a lovely person.

48:03 – 55:25

Alt-white, pundit culture, and the PornHub map: repression, politics, and desire

Joe Rogan 48:03 Of co-... Well, look at it like this. There's a map. You can bring it up Ja- Ja- Jamie, bring it up. There's a map of uh, um, categorical porn percentages in the United States, and the highest percentage of white and Black porn is in the South. Is in, like, the Bible Belt.

Andrew Santino 48:17 See, I had a- I used to have a bit about it.

Joe Rogan 48:18 You did?

Andrew Santino 48:18 But I had to stop doing it because it was-

Joe Rogan 48:20 'Cause it was too true?

Andrew Santino 48:20 ... I, I dropped the N-bomb a bunch of times in the bit.

Joe Rogan 48:23 Oh. (laughs)

Andrew Santino 48:23 (laughs) It was just... (laughs) It was in character-

Joe Rogan 48:25 I can see how that didn't go over as well though.

Andrew Santino 48:27 It worked.

Joe Rogan 48:27 It worked.

Andrew Santino 48:28 Or it didn't. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:28 Yeah, or-

Andrew Santino 48:29 Either it crushed or it was dangerous.

Joe Rogan 48:32 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 48:32 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:32 Yeah, yeah. (laughs) Or after the show, Joe had to sneak out fast. No, that... There, there was a, there was... It was like... In the Bible Belt-

Andrew Santino 48:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:38 ... there is a chunk of the highest amount of Black dudes fucking white, like Black-on-white porn-

Andrew Santino 48:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:43 ... is in the most conservative parts of the country.

Andrew Santino 48:45 Well, my, my take on it was that it wasn't Black guys that were watching this.

Joe Rogan 48:49 Of course not.

Andrew Santino 48:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:50 No.

Andrew Santino 48:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:50 It's fucking white dudes that are-

Andrew Santino 48:51 Suppressed. Angry.

Joe Rogan 48:51 That wish they're white. Yeah.

Andrew Santino 48:52 Angry.

Joe Rogan 48:53 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 48:53 Angry.

Joe Rogan 48:53 Fucking Bla-... I don't want some big Black dick in my wife-

Andrew Santino 48:55 I'm pulling shades down. Don't you put it in her ass.

Joe Rogan 48:56 You put that big, Black-

Andrew Santino 48:57 Don't you do it.

Joe Rogan 48:57 ... beautiful s- thin-skinned, veiny, Black penis in my wife.

Andrew Santino 49:01 Whoo. That-

Joe Rogan 49:01 That chocolate fucking stick-

Andrew Santino 49:02 Slippery, dark cocoa snake.

Joe Rogan 49:04 That thick Pocky stick in my wife. (laughs)

Andrew Santino 49:06 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:08 That's all it is. It's all this fucking, like-

Andrew Santino 49:10 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 49:10 ... racial suppression. That's... Those people that, like-

Andrew Santino 49:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:14 ... that, that play the game, that's alt-white.

Andrew Santino 49:16 They're not alt-white.

Joe Rogan 49:17 They're not all the way, but they're, there you go.

Andrew Santino 49:19 Look at that. Most searched for terms in the United States, lesbian.

Joe Rogan 49:21 Lesbian.

Andrew Santino 49:22 Texas is all lesbian. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:24 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 49:24 California lesbian.

Joe Rogan 49:24 We're all lesbian.

Andrew Santino 49:25 That's hilarious.

Joe Rogan 49:27 Step-sister.

Andrew Santino 49:28 Let... Hold on a second. Stop! Look at this.

Joe Rogan 49:30 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 49:31 ... but, go s- bo- scan back in again so I can see the actual title of this. The most search for terms in the United States.

Joe Rogan 49:37 And this is according to PornHub, huh?

Andrew Santino 49:38 Look at Montana-

Jamie Vernon 49:40 This is it.

Andrew Santino 49:41 ... and Colorado. Is that... What is the up t- up on top? Is that Michigan? What are those states?

Joe Rogan 49:45 No, no, no. That... Okay, step-sister is Minnesota, right?

Jamie Vernon 49:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:48 That's, that's Minnesota.

Jamie Vernon 49:49 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 49:49 Right, what is the other two that are together, that are connected?

Joe Rogan 49:51 That's North and South Dakota.

Jamie Vernon 49:52 One?

Andrew Santino 49:52 Is that what that is?

Joe Rogan 49:53 So lesbian and step-mom...

Andrew Santino 49:53 Isn't that Wyoming?

Jamie Vernon 49:54 This is Wyoming.

Joe Rogan 49:55 No, no, that...

Andrew Santino 49:55 Which one's Wyoming?

Jamie Vernon 49:56 Right here.

Joe Rogan 49:56 Guys, that's Wyoming and Montana.

Andrew Santino 49:58 Hold on, I can't see. Wyoming is the square?

Jamie Vernon 49:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:00 Yes, and that's-

Andrew Santino 50:00 Is Wyoming the only one that's per... There's two states that are perfectly square. How'd they pull that off?

Jamie Vernon 50:03 Colorado.

Andrew Santino 50:04 Colorado's perfectly square and so is Wyoming?

Jamie Vernon 50:07 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 50:07 That's amazing.

Joe Rogan 50:09 Yeah, New Mexico almost had it.

Andrew Santino 50:11 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 50:12 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 50:12 Like, how jealous must, like, Massachusetts be with its goofy-ass shape?

Joe Rogan 50:16 Yeah, fuck them. Fuck everybody. (laughs)

Andrew Santino 50:18 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:18 Fuck, fuck all that Rhode Island and shit.

Andrew Santino 50:20 How about Florida? Florida's built like a dick and they gotta look-

Joe Rogan 50:21 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 50:21 ... at Colorado and go, "Colorado's like a perfect square."

Joe Rogan 50:24 Florida's the dingleberry of the United States. (laughs)

Andrew Santino 50:26 And Texas is just chaos.

Joe Rogan 50:28 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 50:28 Texas is just, "We are whatever the fuck we are. Yee-haw!"

Joe Rogan 50:32 It's a boot. We're a boot.

Andrew Santino 50:33 We're whatever the fuck we wanna be.

Joe Rogan 50:34 So, so Louisiana is... Okay, so, so, so-

Andrew Santino 50:39 I like one state, it's black.

Joe Rogan 50:41 Yeah, where, (laughs) where-

Andrew Santino 50:41 What state's that?

Joe Rogan 50:42 Ebony.

Jamie Vernon 50:43 Louisiana.

Joe Rogan 50:43 Huh?

Andrew Santino 50:43 What is it?

Jamie Vernon 50:43 Louisiana.

Andrew Santino 50:44 Louisiana, black. Alaska, step-mom.

Joe Rogan 50:47 Georgia's black. See-

Andrew Santino 50:48 Hawaii, Asian.

Joe Rogan 50:49 This isn't the map that I was thinkin' of, though. There is another one where it was like, that it said black-on-white porn. I, m- how recent is this?

Andrew Santino 50:56 Look at Rhode Isl- Don't go, don't, don't go away, go back.

Joe Rogan 50:58 Go back.

Andrew Santino 50:58 What are you doing?

Jamie Vernon 50:59 I was just gonna find another one.

Andrew Santino 50:59 Googling for yourself, motherfucker?

Jamie Vernon 51:01 No, I was just gonna find another one.

Andrew Santino 51:02 Look- stop! L- look at MILF. What's-

Joe Rogan 51:04 Where's MILF?

Andrew Santino 51:05 One state, like Rhode Island.

Joe Rogan 51:06 Oh, it is Rhode Island.

Andrew Santino 51:07 Sco- scroll back. There, keep it right there, don't move.

Joe Rogan 51:10 Oh, that is Rhode Island.

Andrew Santino 51:11 Look at MILF.

Joe Rogan 51:12 Step-sister is Maine. Maine's got that step-sister shit.

Andrew Santino 51:15 Yeah. What a... Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. New Hampshire's cartoon?

Joe Rogan 51:19 (laughs) Yeah, what the-

Andrew Santino 51:20 What the fuck?

Joe Rogan 51:20 What the fuck? (laughs)

Andrew Santino 51:21 There's three cartoon states.

Jamie Vernon 51:22 Four.

Andrew Santino 51:23 Four?

Joe Rogan 51:24 Well, that's Arkansas-

Jamie Vernon 51:25 Arkansas and Tennessee.

Joe Rogan 51:26 ... and Tennessee are cartoon.

Andrew Santino 51:27 Oh, there're two. There's two states there.

Joe Rogan 51:28 Tennes-

Andrew Santino 51:28 It looks like one state.

Joe Rogan 51:30 But this also gives me a little bit of hope because-

Andrew Santino 51:32 What a weird-ass state.

Joe Rogan 51:32 ... Joe, Joe, you've, you've come from... Massachusetts-

Andrew Santino 51:35 Massachusetts.

Joe Rogan 51:35 ... was still lesbian and now you're still lesbian.

Andrew Santino 51:38 All lesbian.

Jamie Vernon 51:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:38 I'm Chicago, we were always lesbian and I'm still... I feel really good about my consistency of my pornography state categories. (laughs)

Andrew Santino 51:43 It's amazing how many are searching for lesbians more than anything. And look at Alaska, step-mom.

Joe Rogan 51:49 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 51:49 And she was babysitting me while my dad was roof-fucking.

Joe Rogan 51:52 Hawaii, Hawaii, though, uh, Asian.

Andrew Santino 51:53 Yeah, we already talked about that.

Jamie Vernon 51:54 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 51:54 Yeah, asian.

Joe Rogan 51:54 Clearly.

Andrew Santino 51:55 How about ebony? It's only one state. No, three states.

Joe Rogan 51:58 No, one, two, three.

Andrew Santino 51:59 Ebony. I like that term, too. Ebony.

Joe Rogan 52:01 Ebony.

Andrew Santino 52:01 I like that term.

Joe Rogan 52:02 Well, why does it say ebony more than it says black? That's funny. People type in black.

Andrew Santino 52:06 'Cause people are crazy.

Joe Rogan 52:06 Huh? And they type in ebony.

Andrew Santino 52:07 Yeah, they only type in black in one state 'cause they don't know what ebony means down there.

Joe Rogan 52:09 Okay, Joe. This is proving what we're saying.

Andrew Santino 52:11 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:11 This is what... proving what we're saying.

Andrew Santino 52:13 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:13 You know who's searching for ebony in Georgia and in, um, what is that? In, uh-

Andrew Santino 52:18 Stop moving this.

Joe Rogan 52:19 Go... Zoom in, zoom in. This is a fundamental difference. (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 52:24 Where?

Joe Rogan 52:24 So, ebony down there-

Andrew Santino 52:25 (gasps)

Joe Rogan 52:25 ... in Georgia and in, um, uh, what is that? Mississippi?

Jamie Vernon 52:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:30 Right? Yeah? The reason that those are ebony and, and Louisiana's black is because ebony is searched by black people, black is searched by white people.

Andrew Santino 52:37 Ooh.

Joe Rogan 52:38 That's for sure, 100%.

Andrew Santino 52:40 Oh, you're right, 100%.

Joe Rogan 52:41 That's categorically... Ebony is a black person typing it-

Andrew Santino 52:43 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:43 ... black is a bunch of white dudes being like, "Gimme black porn."

Andrew Santino 52:46 Right.

Joe Rogan 52:47 "Some chocolate, big old chocolate tits."

Andrew Santino 52:48 So, what is that other ebony up, up top, Jamie? What is the other ebony on the right-hand side?

Joe Rogan 52:52 Where is it?

Andrew Santino 52:52 What state is that?

Jamie Vernon 52:53 Delaware.

Andrew Santino 52:54 Delaware?

Joe Rogan 52:55 Delaware.

Andrew Santino 52:55 I forgot Delaware's a state. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:56 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 52:56 That's one of them states you're like, "That's a state?"

Joe Rogan 52:59 How do we ma-... How do we still... They can't just get absorbed by another state? What is surrounding Delaware? What's next to Delaware?

Jamie Vernon 53:05 Maryland.

Joe Rogan 53:05 Maryland, that's right, yeah.

Andrew Santino 53:06 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 53:06 I always fucking forget about Maryland.

Andrew Santino 53:07 Maryland's all about the lesbians.

Joe Rogan 53:09 So, wait a minute, they're ebony, huh? That's so strange.

Andrew Santino 53:11 Go b- go back to the... Scroll. Go back to the slide so that it was before so we can read it all. MILF is only one state. That's weird. That is Rhode Island, right?

Joe Rogan 53:20 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 53:21 That little tiny-ass, bitch-ass state?

Joe Rogan 53:22 Bitch-ass state.

Andrew Santino 53:23 How many Rhode Islands are in Texas? Look at that. There's dudes who own a Rhode Island in Texas.

Joe Rogan 53:28 In Texas. They own multiple Rhode Islands. (laughs) Yeah, dude.

Andrew Santino 53:30 100%. Yeah, yeah, 100%. Do you know there's like 8,000 ranches or something like that in Texas?

Joe Rogan 53:36 8,000?

Andrew Santino 53:36 Yeah. Thousands of ranches.

Joe Rogan 53:38 That's just- that's absurd.

Andrew Santino 53:39 Giant fucking ranches. Mayb- uh, there might be more because I was watching this on a television show and I think it was an older television show. Number of ranches in Texas.

Jamie Vernon 53:49 Oh, it's ranchers, hold on.

Andrew Santino 53:51 248,000 ranchers, ranch-es.

Joe Rogan 53:55 248,000 farms...

Andrew Santino 53:57 Oh.

Joe Rogan 53:57 ... and ranches covering 132 m- 130 million acres.

Andrew Santino 54:01 248,000 farms and ran-... I want... Hmm.

Joe Rogan 54:05 Look at the t- look at the commodities. It's all cows, baby.

Andrew Santino 54:07 How do you define the difference between a farm and a ranch?

Joe Rogan 54:10 That's actually extremely interesting. I don't... I've always thought them to be the same thing.

Andrew Santino 54:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:14 Isn't a ranch a... Isn't a ranch a farm? I guess I don't know shit.

Andrew Santino 54:16 So I'm, I'm way b-... Go back up again please. Stop scrolling. 248,000 farms and ranches covering 130.2 million acres.

Joe Rogan 54:26 Texas is big as fuck. (laughs) Texas is p-

Andrew Santino 54:28 Texas has more women and minority farm operators than any other state in the nation.

Joe Rogan 54:32 There you go, Texas.

Andrew Santino 54:33 Powerful Texas with diversity.

Joe Rogan 54:35 I love that. Go down for just one second, real quick, just a little bit. There's a thing that said, "America's biggest ranch goes on sale for $725 million."

Andrew Santino 54:42 Whoa!

Joe Rogan 54:42 Seven hund-... Click on that and we'll see-

Andrew Santino 54:44 Click on that. What is-

Joe Rogan 54:44 ... see how many fucking-

Andrew Santino 54:45 What is that fucking place?

Joe Rogan 54:47 10,000 acres of land.

Andrew Santino 54:49 Oh!

Jamie Vernon 54:50 500... 510,000.

Joe Rogan 54:51 110,000 acres.

Andrew Santino 54:52 510,000 acres of land.

Joe Rogan 54:54 Oh, fuck me.

Andrew Santino 54:55 7500 cows.

Joe Rogan 54:56 Damn! Look at the size of that fucking place. 510,000-

Andrew Santino 55:00 See...

Joe Rogan 55:01 ... acres.

Andrew Santino 55:02 This is the kind of money that makes fun of Jay-Z. You know like in America we're like, "Jay-Z's rich," or... But these fucking people are rich. This is, this is wealth. This is like pure wealth. Look at that to-go, go back up to that building that's up... Look at that old school stone building on the property.

Joe Rogan 55:14 Spread wide.

Andrew Santino 55:15 You know, there's a... I- I have a friend who was i- at a ranch in Texas and they found petroglyphs in a cave.

Joe Rogan 55:21 What?

Andrew Santino 55:22 Yeah, petroglyphs like ancient Native American petroglyphs-

55:25 – 1:02:28

Texas scale and hidden history: meg ranches, petroglyphs, and MeatEater in Guyana

Joe Rogan 55:25 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 55:26 ... of an unknown origin. They don't know who di-... And, uh-

Joe Rogan 55:28 I'm actually-

Andrew Santino 55:29 ... and I was like, "Well, don't they have historians come here and rope that off?" Like, the- they got a lot of it here.

Joe Rogan 55:33 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 55:33 It's all over the place. They don't even pay attention to it. I was like-

Joe Rogan 55:35 What?

Andrew Santino 55:35 ... "What are you talking about?" Are you serious?

Joe Rogan 55:37 They just let... They just don't, they don't bother with it?

Andrew Santino 55:39 Yeah. Look, ancient petroglyphs that they... Look at, click on that, that upper left-hand corner, the one you just had.

Jamie Vernon 55:43 Mexico.

Andrew Santino 55:43 ... is that New Mexico?

Jamie Vernon 55:44 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 55:45 Yeah. They have them all over the Southwest.

Joe Rogan 55:46 I mean, it's all over. Yeah. It's Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, everywhere that-

Andrew Santino 55:49 But the thing is no one's, like, curating them. No one's taking care of them. They just exist on this ranch. And the ranch was a, a, was a hunting ranch-

Joe Rogan 55:56 That's fucking awesome.

Andrew Santino 55:58 ... that these people are on. And they took pictures of them.

Joe Rogan 55:59 Where is that, Jamie?

Jamie Vernon 56:00 Texas.

Joe Rogan 56:01 That's fucking amazing.

Andrew Santino 56:02 My friend, uh, Steve Rinella, whose new show, Meat Eater, is now only on Netflix. It's a hunting show that's on Netflix. Like, an intelligent, really well-narrated hunting show that's, that's, that's done and produced by a brilliant guy.

Joe Rogan 56:17 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 56:17 My friend, Steve Rinella. But he was in Guyana, which was where, um, Jonestown was.

Joe Rogan 56:24 Yep.

Andrew Santino 56:25 Where he fucking killed all those people.

Joe Rogan 56:26 The massacre, yeah.

Andrew Santino 56:26 Jim Jones with the Kool-Aid.

Joe Rogan 56:27 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 56:28 And, uh, they found these petroglyphs on a rock and they were like, "Well, who, who made these?" Like, no one has any idea. It's, like, right by this waterfall. No one has any idea. It's a fascinating series. He's in Guyana, um, uh, living with these indigenous people and fishing-

Joe Rogan 56:42 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Santino 56:42 ... in these rivers for, like, three days. And, um, just, they, they just live and, and it's three, it's three episodes. And they camp out (clears throat) by this river and use these, like, traditional methods of hunting that these people have used for thousands and thousands-

Joe Rogan 56:57 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 56:57 ... of years. But now, they're wearing, like, like, Under Armor T-shirts and shit.

Joe Rogan 57:02 (coughs)

Andrew Santino 57:02 They're still barefoot. It's so strange.

Joe Rogan 57:04 That's so weird, yeah.

Andrew Santino 57:04 It's like this weird merging-

Joe Rogan 57:06 Like Top Tom's shoes, but also-

Andrew Santino 57:07 No, they don't wear any shoes.

Joe Rogan 57:08 No, nothing?

Andrew Santino 57:09 No one wears shoes anymore.

Joe Rogan 57:10 But they get all the old shirts and all that stuff. They get-

Andrew Santino 57:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:11 ... clothes from Salvation Army? Yeah.

Andrew Santino 57:13 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:13 That's wild.

Andrew Santino 57:14 So, they're wearing, like, this, the- these, these things from Western civilization wh- And like Steve's got, like (coughs) he's got these modern hoyt bow and they're bow fishing in the river-

Joe Rogan 57:25 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 57:25 ... for these things called opaku, which is this brilliant red fish, this beautiful red fish. And it, the, the whole scene is, like, so crazy. It's like a combination of Western civilization, you know, because they've got, like, some Western stuff, mixed in with this culture that really hasn't changed that much in thousands and thousands of years.

Joe Rogan 57:48 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 57:48 But then they find these petroglyphs that are by this waterfall and they don't know any... He's like, he's like, "Where do you think these came from?" And he was like, "We don't know."

Joe Rogan 57:56 Nobody knows?

Andrew Santino 57:56 They say, like, they call them, like, the ancients, the ancients wrote it. Like, they don't even know who the fuck did.

Joe Rogan 58:00 The ancients.

Andrew Santino 58:00 So, it could be thousands and thousands of years old.

Joe Rogan 58:03 That's fucking amazing.

Andrew Santino 58:04 These people drew these weird faces by this waterfall and no one's curating it. It just is what it is. It's, like, really priceless history that's just sitting there.

Joe Rogan 58:15 Is it also there where they hang out?

Andrew Santino 58:16 Yeah. Just sitting there, you know?

Joe Rogan 58:18 I mean, that's kind of like, that's kind of like when I was in Italy. It's kind of like walking by these ancient structures and you're like, "That's just like a part of your fucking life." That is also-

Andrew Santino 58:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:26 ... strange to me.

Andrew Santino 58:27 Dude, I was in... We, we showed some photos the other day. It was in Ravello. And there was a church-

Joe Rogan 58:32 Oh, we were... Yeah, you were there right after me.

Andrew Santino 58:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:33 That's right. Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Santino 58:34 It was a church that was a thousand years old-

Joe Rogan 58:36 Yep.

Andrew Santino 58:36 ... that was on top of a church that was far older. They don't even know how old that church was.

Joe Rogan 58:40 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 58:40 And there's a glass floor where you could look under the church and see the, the ancient church that's below it.

Joe Rogan 58:46 Oh, I, I went to this fucking place.

Andrew Santino 58:47 Did you?

Joe Rogan 58:48 Yes, yes.

Andrew Santino 58:48 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:48 You can look below.

Andrew Santino 58:49 Crazy.

Joe Rogan 58:50 Yes, yes, yes. Dude, this is also... We went to the, uh, catacombs. Did you go to any of the catacombs?

Andrew Santino 58:54 No.

Joe Rogan 58:55 This shit is fucking... I wish I could have, like-

Andrew Santino 58:56 They have catacombs in Italy too?

Joe Rogan 58:58 Yeah, man. I wish I could send this to you.

Andrew Santino 58:58 Is it like the ones in France where they have the skulls and all the shit?

Joe Rogan 59:01 Yeah. I'm gonna show you-

Andrew Santino 59:02 They have the same kind of thing?

Joe Rogan 59:02 I'm gonna show you right now. This is fucking crazy. So, we went and also online, by the way, when, when I looked up, like, how to get to them, a lot of the online posts were like, "This isn't-"

Andrew Santino 59:12 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 59:12 "... this isn't necessarily safe."

Andrew Santino 59:14 What the fuck?

Joe Rogan 59:15 Yeah, man.

Andrew Santino 59:15 What? Wait a minute. So, this isn't safe?

Joe Rogan 59:17 Well, they were just saying, like, at the, the-

Andrew Santino 59:19 Oh, dude.

Joe Rogan 59:20 Yeah. It's fucked.

Andrew Santino 59:21 What in... What is this? But, but describe what we're seeing here. Are they standing up?

Joe Rogan 59:25 Yeah. Yes, yes.

Andrew Santino 59:25 So, they have these skulls dressed in clothes-

Joe Rogan 59:28 So, what they do is, what they do is they, they, they reconfigure the bones of the, of what they think the human was, you know, what they looked like and they put them in cloth and stuff and stand them against the wall.

Andrew Santino 59:37 Whoa. Go, go full screen with that.

Joe Rogan 59:40 Let me see these fucking catacombs on my fucking phone.

Andrew Santino 59:40 That is... That is bizarre. Wait, look at that one with the flesh on him. What's happening there? The one where your cursor is, Jamie? Does it have hair on his head?

Jamie Vernon 59:50 Ye- yeah.

Andrew Santino 59:51 This guy's dead as fuck and he's got more hair than me.

Jamie Vernon 59:53 Did you see they found a, a Buddha statue with a, a mummy in it?

Joe Rogan 59:57 No.

Jamie Vernon 59:57 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 59:57 Oh, that's right. Yeah.

Jamie Vernon 59:58 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Santino 59:58 They found this statue and they did an X-ray of it and found that there was an actual skeleton underneath the statue.

Joe Rogan 1:00:06 Look at this.

Andrew Santino 1:00:06 The, the actual statue was a mummy.

Joe Rogan 1:00:08 So, this is in Naples.

Jamie Vernon 1:00:10 That's not new, I guess.

Joe Rogan 1:00:10 That's in fucking Naples.

Andrew Santino 1:00:12 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 1:00:13 Those are all skulls and bones. Isn't that fucked?

Andrew Santino 1:00:16 What other cities did you... I heard Florence is amazing.

Joe Rogan 1:00:19 Florence is incredible. I, I... Bologna is cool too. I, I like... I think Southern, Southern Italy is my favorite. But this is... Did you see this shit, Jamie?

Andrew Santino 1:00:26 Southern Italy, like Sicily?

Joe Rogan 1:00:28 Well, I mean, Sicily is my fucking favorite. That's my absolutely... That's where my family is from.

Andrew Santino 1:00:31 They don't have to consider that Italy.

Joe Rogan 1:00:32 No, they're their own place.

Andrew Santino 1:00:32 Isn't that weird?

Joe Rogan 1:00:32 But I mean, I mean, Southern Italy, like places like Naples and stuff like that, like-

Andrew Santino 1:00:36 Do they look down on you because you have red hair when you go to Sicily?

Joe Rogan 1:00:39 They spit on me right away.

Andrew Santino 1:00:40 That's so mean, man.

Joe Rogan 1:00:41 You know what's... You know what's annoying is Santino. Be-... My last name is Santino because my pa- my family is from Sicily.

Andrew Santino 1:00:45 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:00:46 And they immediately hear it, they go, "Santino, Santino." And they think I'm gonna speak Italian. And then when I don't, they're like annoyed.

Andrew Santino 1:00:52 (sighs) Get mad at you.

Joe Rogan 1:00:53 Yeah. They're like, "Where?"

Andrew Santino 1:00:54 "No, no, no, I went to somewhere better."

Joe Rogan 1:00:56 Where?

Andrew Santino 1:00:56 America.

Joe Rogan 1:00:57 (laughs) Yeah.

Andrew Santino 1:00:58 English.

Joe Rogan 1:00:58 We made it out.

Andrew Santino 1:00:59 English. Escape.

Joe Rogan 1:01:00 I made it out. That's why I came back here and gave you money.

Andrew Santino 1:01:02 Escape. Money.

Joe Rogan 1:01:03 We also went to, uh-

Andrew Santino 1:01:04 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 1:01:05 Oh, see, that's so fucked.

Andrew Santino 1:01:06 What the fuck is that?

Joe Rogan 1:01:06 A dude that hung himself, for sure.

Andrew Santino 1:01:08 Ew. That's a little kid.

Joe Rogan 1:01:11 A little dude.

Andrew Santino 1:01:11 Go to that, uh... This is all in Rome? What is it? Capuchin?

Joe Rogan 1:01:16 I mean, they can... Cate- they're, they're all over.

Jamie Vernon 1:01:16 This is Palermo for this one.

Joe Rogan 1:01:17 Palermo, yeah.

Andrew Santino 1:01:19 Palermo.

Joe Rogan 1:01:19 That's in Sicily.

Andrew Santino 1:01:20 Oh, look at the face of this guy.

Joe Rogan 1:01:22 Look at the face of this guy who killed himself.

Andrew Santino 1:01:23 He's like, he's like, "What do you want me to... What do you want me to do?"

Joe Rogan 1:01:26 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 1:01:26 "What do you want from me?" (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01:27 We also went to Savoca. Do you know what Savoca is?

Andrew Santino 1:01:30 No.

Joe Rogan 1:01:30 Where they shot The Godfather.

Andrew Santino 1:01:31 Oh.

Joe Rogan 1:01:31 Look at this. This is fucking incredible, dude. We went to this town where they shot The Godfather in Savoca.

Andrew Santino 1:01:36 They must be just a bunch of assholes from New Jersey wandering around.

Joe Rogan 1:01:39 Yeah.

Andrew Santino 1:01:39 "This is it. This is right where De Niro comes down the hill."

Joe Rogan 1:01:42 "Where's Corleone? Is Don Corleone here now?"

Andrew Santino 1:01:45 "Where do I get some gabagool?"

Joe Rogan 1:01:47 "Margo, come get a picture of me in front of this fucking thing. Come on, hurry up, you fat bitch."

Andrew Santino 1:01:51 "Hey."

Joe Rogan 1:01:51 (laughs)

Andrew Santino 1:01:52 Whoa here in the motherland. Be fucking civil.

Joe Rogan 1:01:55 In the fucking motherland. (laughs)

Andrew Santino 1:01:57 What i- so what was this deal with the story of the, uh, Buddha?

Joe Rogan 1:01:59 He had a mo- he had a Buddha.

Jamie Vernon 1:02:01 Uh, act- it was in 2015 is when it was actually going around. Yeah, it was a pleasant-

Andrew Santino 1:02:03 Oh, it's too long ago for us to talk about. Pull it up. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:06 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 1:02:06 Well, it wasn't like a new, new discovery.

Andrew Santino 1:02:08 Oh. Yeah, but I n- but it's a thing.

Jamie Vernon 1:02:11 Uh, it's like ...

Andrew Santino 1:02:12 Wha- wh- do they know why they did that? So what did they do? Did they put, like, plaster over it and create a-

Joe Rogan 1:02:17 (sighs) I don't know if I'm gonna have any more of this '46 Joe, but it really is nice at this early in the morning to have a little bit of-

Andrew Santino 1:02:23 Have some more. Have some more. It's a little more ice in that thing over there.

Joe Rogan 1:02:25 Oh no, I might have another one.

Andrew Santino 1:02:26 Get s- one more glass.

Joe Rogan 1:02:27 Just one more. Might

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