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Joe Rogan Experience #1184 - Roseanne Barr

Roseanne Barr is a comedian, actress, writer, television producer, director.

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Oct 11, 20182h 13mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:003:16

    Catching up: family pride, “next chapter,” and Roseanne’s smoking relapse

    1. JR

      I mean, very few people could ever imagine. Here we go.

    2. RB

      I had to start smoking.

    3. JR

      Four, three, two, one. Boom. And we're live.

    4. RB

      (laughs)

    5. JR

      Saddle on up to that microphone-

    6. RB

      Mm.

    7. JR

      ... young lady. How are you?

    8. RB

      I'm good. How are you, Joe?

    9. JR

      Great to see you, always.

    10. RB

      It's so great to see you too, and thanks for meeting with my... saying hi to my sons.

    11. JR

      Your sons are great.

    12. RB

      Fucking A they are, man, and that's what I figure is my next step in my... in the tale, my next chapter as... What's her name? The girl that everyone loves, the girl, the singer, she's real tall and skinny. I-

    13. JR

      Taylor Swift?

    14. RB

      Yeah. I can't remember anybody's name anymore.

    15. JR

      There's so many people to remember.

    16. RB

      Yeah. Well, she said, uh, she's onto her next chapter, and that's how I feel too.

    17. JR

      Uh, w- we were-

    18. RB

      And it's gonna be about how... talking to women about how to raise functional sons. This is n... This is needed in America, and I'm gonna step up and do it because all these tales, what with all the news and such, obvious... It's obvious to me, these women have not raised their sons correctly, and I'm gonna correct 'em 'cause I'm tired of them yapping and fucking bitching and moaning. I'm old. I'm gonna tell you what to do to raise decent sons, women.

    19. JR

      Well, your son said something when, when they were doing the little tour of the studio. They saw the picture of, uh, Rosa Parks.

    20. RB

      Oh, yeah.

    21. JR

      And your son said, "That's Rosa Parks." And I said, "You're one of the few people that ever just pointed that out and noticed it." And he goes, "Of course." He goes, "Roseanne's my mom. She raised me right."

    22. RB

      Aw, that's sweet. Isn't that sweet? That's something. That's getting the, uh... What do you call it?

    23. JR

      (laughs)

    24. RB

      What do they call it? (laughs) I don't know. Pat on the back.

    25. JR

      Yeah. It is a pat on the back.

    26. RB

      What's the modern vernacular?

    27. JR

      I don't... I don't know.

    28. RB

      I don't know. There's some slang.

    29. JR

      Well-

    30. RB

      I hear 'em.

  2. 3:164:03

    Peak outrage culture hits: why the backlash became unstoppable

    1. JR

      This whole thing has been completely fucking insane. And you caught it-

    2. RB

      Really?

    3. JR

      Yeah, I know.

    4. RB

      (laughs)

    5. JR

      I don't have to tell you. But you caught this madness, this outrage culture, right at the peak.

    6. RB

      Yeah, I did. (laughs)

    7. JR

      I think you, you hit peak outrage culture.

    8. RB

      Thank you. (laughs)

    9. JR

      Where people didn't give a fuck if you were making a joke, didn't give a fuck if you had no idea that that lady was Black, didn't give a fuck what your mental state was, didn't give a fuck if you were on Ambien, didn't give a fuck if you were drinking, didn't give a fuck if you-

    10. RB

      One thing I've learned, Joe-

    11. JR

      ... sincerely apologized.

    12. RB

      Oh, go ahead. I do wanna talk seriously about that.

    13. JR

      Oh, th- they... but they didn't care that you-

    14. RB

      Mm-mm.

    15. JR

      ... you sincerely apologized and did not... didn't mean to offend. You were cracking a joke about a woman.

  3. 4:036:24

    The tweet, misquotes, and ‘mass mind control’ vs self-imposed groupthink

    1. RB

      It, it was funny how they've mischaracterized it and lied about it and added words to it.

    2. JR

      Yeah.

    3. RB

      But, um, yeah, I'd like to talk about the tweet, but... Uh, yeah, I seriously apologize to all whom I inadvertently offended and... because they were offended for, like... It, it wasn't even what they say they were offended 'cause it didn't say that.

    4. JR

      No.

    5. RB

      But they think that I tweeted a... said she looked like, um, you know, somebody. And I never said anything about her looks. It was a political tweet. And it's just proof of how, um, everybody's under mass mind control because they took a, um... And of course I'm always interested in that, you know? You know that. I've talked about that.

    6. JR

      Mass mind control?

    7. RB

      Yeah.

    8. JR

      I think a lot of it's-

    9. RB

      MKUltra.

    10. JR

      ... self-imposed. That's what I think.

    11. RB

      Yeah.

    12. JR

      I think people are under the wave of self-imposed mind control. I don't think it's-

    13. RB

      (laughs)

    14. JR

      ... like, there's anybody pulling the strings.

    15. RB

      You mean, you think you can get out of it?

    16. JR

      No. I don't think anyone's pulling the strings. I don't think this is by-

    17. RB

      You don't?

    18. JR

      No, I don't. I don't think it's by design.

    19. RB

      Really?

    20. JR

      I think people are caught up in a wave of fear and paranoia-

    21. RB

      Yeah.

    22. JR

      ... and political correctness, and I think one of the reasons why atta... they attacked someone like you is, first of all, you're wealthy and successful and famous-

    23. RB

      And beautiful.

    24. JR

      ... which... You are beautiful.

    25. RB

      Thank you.

    26. JR

      And one of the best comics of all time.

    27. RB

      Oh, thank you so much.

    28. JR

      And you're also, uh, you're, you're an, an easy target.

    29. RB

      Yeah.

    30. JR

      You're a, a white woman and you're-

  4. 6:2416:10

    Comedian brain: being ‘crazy,’ misanthropy, and weird-but-honest worldview

    1. RB

      No, I don't go crazy. I stay crazy.

    2. JR

      (laughs)

    3. RB

      I admit it. I mean, what the fuck? They're like, "You know what? You've said you were crazy for years. And you know what? You're crazy." Well, yeah. I said it for fucking years.

    4. JR

      Yeah. Well, it's also one of the reasons why you're so funny.

    5. RB

      All of us are crazy.

    6. JR

      Yeah.

    7. RB

      All comics are fucking nutso.

    8. JR

      100%.

    9. RB

      I don't ... At least I don't wash my keys like some.

    10. JR

      Wash their keys?

    11. RB

      I know some guys, they ha- they gotta wash their keys five, six, seven times-

    12. JR

      (laughs)

    13. RB

      ... before they can go on stage. What's his name? Oh, I'm so bad on names. Chris Farley? I always ask comics, you know. I ask them, "What's, what's your secret number?" What's yours, Joe? I don't know if I asked yo-

    14. JR

      I don't have a secret number.

    15. RB

      You don't have a number?

    16. JR

      No.

    17. RB

      You don't have to do something a number of times? You don't have a number?

    18. JR

      No, I don't have a number.

    19. RB

      What's your birth date?

    20. JR

      8/11/67.

    21. RB

      8 ... What's that? August?

    22. JR

      August.

    23. RB

      8/11/67. You were born in 1967?

    24. JR

      Yes.

    25. RB

      Jesus F. Christ. Um, I was in the ... My ... I was in the Utah State Hospital when you were born.

    26. JR

      What were you doing? Giving birth?

    27. RB

      No. I was in a mental institution.

    28. JR

      Whoa.

    29. RB

      That was my first hospitalization. It lasted for nine months, and it was the Utah State Hospital in Provo, where the Osmonds are from.

    30. JR

      Mm.

  5. 16:1026:58

    Ambien, alcohol, and how blackout behavior gets weaponized

    1. RB

      One thing I've learned, Joe, if you're gonna take an Ambien, do not, do not drink a beer. Always only drink a wine-

    2. JR

      Yes.

    3. RB

      ... with Ambien.

    4. JR

      I have a good friend of mine who is one of the nicest, most respectful guys you ever wanna meet. He woke up in Germany on a plane, covered in his own vomit, with the police standing over him, asking him if he knew what happened.

    5. RB

      (gasps)

    6. JR

      He wound up getting arrested. They brought him to the, the jail in Germany, and they as- ... And he- he's a CEO of a large company, and they went over things with him, and they said, "What happened? What do you remember?" He goes, "Well, I remember taking an Ambien."

    7. RB

      Oh, sure.

    8. JR

      "And then, then I went to sleep, and then I had, uh, I guess I had a beer at some point in time."

    9. RB

      Yeah.

    10. JR

      And they go, "Okay, stop. This is what happened." And so they describe how he was hitting on the stewardesses and trying to start fights with men in the cabin-

    11. RB

      Oh, he was being his real self.

    12. JR

      ... and threw up all over himself. Wasn't his being his real self.

    13. RB

      (laughs)

    14. JR

      He was on Ambien.

    15. RB

      Yeah, I know.

    16. JR

      He-

    17. RB

      It distorts things.

    18. JR

      He's the nicest guy. If you knew this guy, you would never in a million years believe that he was capable of anything remotely like this. And the German people actually let him stay in the country. They let him continue his vacation. They're like, "Okay."

    19. RB

      They forgave him?

    20. JR

      "Can you promise not to do that again?" He goes, "I'm never fucking taking that shit again in my life."

    21. RB

      Yeah.

    22. JR

      And one of the things that I said to you when I called you up, I said, "What were you doing?" What... And you told me you were on Ambien. And I said-

    23. RB

      (laughs)

    24. JR

      ... "Okay, well, stop right there," because I know quite a bit about that, 'cause I've had personal experiences with friends that have had real issues with Ambien. I had a bit I did in my act about a friend of mine who literally made a meal while he was on Ambien-

    25. RB

      Yeah, I've heard it, too. Right.

    26. JR

      ... cooked, went to the supermarket, went, w- w- got food, cooked it-

    27. RB

      Well, look at Tiger Woods. That-

    28. JR

      Yes.

    29. RB

      He was on that, and then he'd go driving off in the golf cart to meet some chick, you know? Geez.

    30. JR

      Yeah.

  6. 26:5833:18

    Life before fame: car accident, brain injury, and first hospitalization

    1. JR

      Oh, yeah. What, what was it that... When you first got, um, brought into a mental hospital, what was it about?

    2. RB

      Well, I had got hit, uh, by a car and the, uh, the hood ornament went in my head, in my brains, and scrambled them. And I, I used to be an A+ math student. I was just great in geometry. Oh, my God, I loved geometry. I got straight A's. And, uh, then, you know, I sort of fell apart after that. Took a long time to, uh, heal from it and, um, you know, uh, th-

    3. JR

      How much did your personality change?

    4. RB

      Oh, it changed drastically. But, you know, you read all that stuff about, uh, traumatic head injuries now, 'cause I, I do read a lot and talk to a lot of football players who have the same thing. And we, we do discuss it. Yeah, you change right away.

    5. JR

      Yeah.

    6. RB

      It's still you, but it's like a, a... It's kind of like an arti- artificial intelligence you.

    7. JR

      Do you find, um... Did, did you find that you became much more impulsive?

    8. RB

      Oh, yeah.

    9. JR

      Yeah.

    10. RB

      You know what I... Well, yeah. Here's what happened. I was crossing the street on my way to school.

    11. JR

      How old were you?

    12. RB

      Mm. I was 16. No, I was 15. Going to first, uh, week of high school. And, uh, I was a big nerd. And anyway, I was crossing the street and it, it was the top of a hill. And this woman, girl, she was on her way to the university, and the sun blinded her and she ran me over. And, uh, the rest is her-story. (laughs)

    13. JR

      (sighs) How, how long were you in the hospital for?

    14. RB

      Mm. Some weeks.

    15. JR

      So first, you must have been in... You must have been in a medical hospital first, and then you were mis- admitted to a mental hospital afterwards?

    16. RB

      Well, there was about three months in between.

    17. JR

      Right.

    18. RB

      Uh, but I was in the hospital for a while, you know. And, uh, I had a head concussion and a brain concussion. And I had hamburger meat for legs. So they did all these, um... What do they call them? Skin graphs on my legs. Uh, and, um... Yeah, I was in there for a while. Then I came out of there, and I had forgotten everything about math when I returned to school, which, uh, m- matter of weeks after that, maybe two months. I, I'm really bad on time now. But, uh... And, uh, I had forgotten all my math and it was just terrible. That was a big depressive, depression I went into because couldn't remember... I couldn't remember things, you know. And also, I became way more impulsive. Then I was like, I don't know what I did. Then I started going really out there into the ethers. (laughs)

    19. JR

      Mm.

    20. RB

      I went way out there.

    21. JR

      Like how so?

    22. RB

      Way out. You know how you go way out? Do you ever go way out?

    23. JR

      Not really.

    24. RB

      Oh.

    25. JR

      I mean, I've had a lot of head injuries.

    26. RB

      Oh, yeah. I bet.

    27. JR

      But not terrible.

    28. RB

      Mm-hmm.

    29. JR

      Mostly just punches and kicks. Nothing like car accidents-

    30. RB

      Yeah, yeah.

  7. 33:1846:01

    Inside the Utah State Hospital: meds, trauma, and survival stories

    1. JR

      So when they admitted you, what was the treatment? Like what did they do to you when you were inside the mental hospital?

    2. RB

      Well, they right away put me on an antipsychotic.

    3. JR

      What was it? Do you remember?

    4. RB

      Mellaril.

    5. JR

      And what did that do?

    6. RB

      I don't know.

    7. JR

      (laughs)

    8. RB

      (laughs)

    9. JR

      (laughs)

    10. RB

      I wasn't there.

    11. JR

      (coughs) You weren't there. You were gone.

    12. RB

      I w- uh-huh. I was gone. I was just watching these people I was in the mental institution with, and I wanted to tell that story.

    13. JR

      Yeah.

    14. RB

      Because there was this one lady. I think I told this to Paul Reubens too. I think it might be where he got Large Marge.

    15. JR

      (laughs)

    16. RB

      But, uh, there was this one lady and she's in this cage.

    17. JR

      (gasps)

    18. RB

      You know, she's in a cage with keys on our ward there. And, uh, uh... Christ, I can't remember her name either. Oh, Marge.

    19. JR

      Her name was Marge?

    20. RB

      Yeah. And she's about 600, 700 pounds.

    21. JR

      Whoa.

    22. RB

      And, uh, she's funnier than hell. You know, I thought, "Man, this, this chick's got some good lines." You know? And I've traded lines with her and she'd laugh. You know, y- you know, I always like jokes. You can always find a joke wherever you are, you know. That's the key to life, I think. But, um... So she... Oh, everybody called me Chunky. That was my name, Chunky.

    23. JR

      (laughs)

    24. RB

      And, uh, there was another girl in there named Shorty. So it was Chunky and Shorty. We were like a duo. (laughs) But anyway, um, so she's like, "Hey, Roseanne, get what's-her-name's keys when they go to dinner and open this up here and, you know, come in here." I'm like, "Okay." You know, because, you know, after all, I was crazy too. And, uh, (clears throat) I trust... I don't know. I, uh, just always... I never questioned that there was danger anywhere. I always got in trouble, you know, caught, beat up, something, you know. But, uh, so I did it, you know, and I can't... Oh, Anka, that was her name, the head nurse. I hated her because she told me I needed to bathe. I'll tell that story later.

    25. JR

      (laughs)

    26. RB

      It was horrifying. It changed my life. But anyway, so they all go to dinner. So I go in there, steal the keys out of the thing where they are, you know, the attendants, and I go in there with Marge and (clears throat) leave the keys in the door and close the door. Yeah. So I'm like, "Hey, Marge, you know... (laughs) How's it going, Marge?" (laughs) And she's like, "Chunky, you know why they put me in this cage, don't you?" Takes a drag of a cigarette. I go, "What? Why? No, I don't know why." "Well, Chunky, it's because they consider me to be dangerous." I'm like, "How come?"

    27. JR

      (laughs)

    28. RB

      (laughs) I am... I'm like Gomer Pyle.

    29. JR

      Right.

    30. RB

      Seriously. I'm total Gomer Pyle.

  8. 46:0151:32

    Working in Hollywood as a political outlier: Trump support and ‘SJW’ tensions on set

    1. RB

      Yeah. It w- it was tough working with a lot of social justice warriors in remaking Roseanne. It was tough on me mentally.

    2. JR

      So when... You mean like the staff that you were working with?

    3. RB

      Look, I was the only one saying, "I'm not a Republican, nor am I a fucking Democrat. I'm an Independent, and I'm just anti-corruption. I'm just anti-corruption. Don't, don't make me into w- your idea of who I am, 'cause you're wrong."

    4. JR

      What was their idea of who you were?

    5. RB

      Well, they thought that since I supported President Trump, uh, that I was a, you know, a racist and a scumbag and, you know, anti-everything just 'cause I voted for him.

    6. JR

      Why did you support Trump?

    7. RB

      I love what Norm MacDonald said. If I can quote him. Can I quote Norm?

    8. JR

      Please do. I love Norm.

    9. RB

      I think this says it better than anything. He said, "The American people hated Hillary so bad that they voted for a guy they hated even worse-

    10. JR

      (laughs)

    11. RB

      ... just to rub it in." (laughs)

    12. JR

      (laughs) (claps) That is Norm MacDonald. That's brilliant.

    13. RB

      But, you know-

    14. JR

      That is so true.

    15. RB

      ... I wasn't, I wa- I wasn't for Hillary and I was a woman, and that was like a big no-no.

    16. JR

      Right.

    17. RB

      That's b- all it basically comes down to.

    18. JR

      Yeah.

    19. RB

      'Cause it was a woman's turn. But, you know, I'm anti... I, I just want a government that works for the American people. The ta- I pay taxes, and I expect something for my taxes. And, you know, here's news to all of them out there, including POTUS. Uh, I think at some time, the American people need to audit what happened to their tax monies, and I think we should all have a say in what this country does with our hard-earned dollars. And, uh, don't just ass- assume you speak for us because obviously you don't, or we wouldn't (laughs) have a trade deficit of $20 trillion. So STFU and, uh, let the American people handle what they should handle in this country. It's a republic, and it's, uh, it runs on the, uh, uh, uh, on the consent of the governed. And it's really, really time to talk about that.

    20. JR

      Now, when you say social justice warriors that you had to work with, like specifically, what were the issues that you were dealing with?

    21. RB

      Well, Trump was the big elephant in the room. My support for Trump, and their, just their patronizing shite, can I call it?

    22. JR

      Yeah.

    23. RB

      Well, we have to remember that the... I mean, I'm gonna paraphrase, but it was a lot... Well, you know, the ignorant, unwashed...... people who voted for Trump. It's not their fault. That was kinda what it was like.

    24. JR

      Mm.

    25. RB

      And, uh, 'cause I said, "Well, you know, it was working class people that elected Trump, so I, I really can't, I can't let you say that to me 'cause it's not true." You know, they already had it in their head what it means. And of course, they are wrong, like they're wrong about, you know, this being about ab- you know, that Kavanaugh being about a- abortion rights. They're wrong about that too. So, you know-

    26. JR

      How are they wrong about that?

    27. RB

      ... 'cause I don't think... You know, he said pretty much that, you know, you can't overturn something that's in law.

    28. JR

      Roe versus Wade?

    29. RB

      Yeah.

    30. JR

      Yeah.

  9. 51:321:00:06

    How the ‘Roseanne’ reboot happened—and why she became the on-screen Trump supporter

    1. JR

      So when they came, who came to you with the relaunch? How did it, h- like, how does it happen that Roseanne is canceled for so long-

    2. RB

      Uh, Jon and Sarah were, they did a sketch on Sarah's talk show, and everyone liked it, and Sarah called me.

    3. JR

      And said?

    4. RB

      She said, "Jon said he's in if you, you know, if you're in."

    5. JR

      So you say, "Let's do it."

    6. RB

      "Well, if Jon's in, of course. Is Lori in?"

    7. JR

      Right.

    8. RB

      "Yeah, Lori's in. Okay. Uh, yeah, let's do it."

    9. JR

      So what, who turned on you after this was over?

    10. RB

      Um, well, I'm, my coven of lawyers advises I not get-

    11. JR

      Okay.

    12. RB

      ... into this at this time.

    13. JR

      That's probably a good-

    14. RB

      You know, I think it's self-explanatory.

    15. JR

      Well, people could find out.

    16. RB

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      Um-

    18. RB

      Uh, I don't know that they turned on me. I think it was always that way since, you know, I came in and said, I said, uh, "Somebody on the show has to be a Trump supporter," and none of them would do it. (laughs)

    19. JR

      (laughs)

    20. RB

      I'm like, "It's a great role." You know?

    21. JR

      Yeah.

    22. RB

      "You could do it. You're the kinda person who would, and-"

    23. JR

      I think people-

    24. RB

      ... and they were like, "No." So I said, "Okay, well, then I'll do it," because, you know, I did vote for him, and everybody knows it.

    25. JR

      Well, people forget Archie Bunker.

    26. RB

      Yeah.

    27. JR

      He's one of the greatest characters-

    28. RB

      I know.

    29. JR

      ... in the history of sitcoms.

    30. RB

      Well, nobody wants to be the, quote, unquote, b- you know, other, other.

  10. 1:00:061:19:52

    Cancellation fallout: betrayal, contracts, and ‘The Conners’ continuing without her

    1. JR

      What do you think about them doing it without you?

    2. RB

      Um-

    3. JR

      I mean, how fucking weird is that?

    4. RB

      It is weird. I'm like, "Oh, I get it. They're sending me a subtle message to OD on opioids."

    5. JR

      (laughs)

    6. RB

      You know, that's how it is.

    7. JR

      Is that what you think?

    8. RB

      Yeah, that's some of it, mind control stuff. Yeah.

    9. JR

      D- so you think that they want you to kill yourself?

    10. RB

      Well, I don't know why they would do what they did. Let's just put it that way. It doesn't make any sense, and-

    11. JR

      I just, I just think they're being completely inconsiderate, and they don't care about you.

    12. RB

      No, they don't, and they, they so, uh, belittled my contribution to the show, too. It just, you know, was shocking. That was the most painful part of the whole thing.

    13. JR

      Well, one of the things that I read was that you hadn't considered...... the more than 100 people that work on the show when you did what you did, and I'm like, "That is ... That's a ridiculous statement."

    14. RB

      I didn't cancel the show.

    15. JR

      Well n- not only did you not cancel the show, you were on Ambien drunk-tweeting. The idea that you did this, this was some sort of a deliberate ploy to get the show canceled, or the idea that there was any justification that this show c- should be canceled at all. Like, what? You can't just say something that you, y- you didn't want to come out that way and apologize for it? They don't know who you are.

    16. RB

      And I did apologize. I apologized.

    17. JR

      You did apologize, but they don't know who you are?

    18. RB

      I apologized for three months. No.

    19. JR

      Yeah. They don't know who you are. They worked with you-

    20. RB

      No. They tried to wipe me off the, uh, off the, uh, map of the culture.

    21. JR

      Because people are scared to be connected with anybody who's a target.

    22. RB

      Yeah.

    23. JR

      And they acted like cowards.

    24. RB

      I, I wouldn't have d- I mean, if it were my friend, definitely I would've ... o- of years, of two decades or more, I would've said something.

    25. JR

      I never-

    26. RB

      But that's just me. And I definitely ... One thing I would never have done is, um, stab somebody in the ... rush to condemn somebody who, you know, was my biggest, uh, advocate.

    27. JR

      Well, there was a lot of that.

    28. RB

      And, and sometimes and only advocate.

    29. JR

      There was a lot of that. I saw a lot of that.

    30. RB

      Yeah. But I just thought-

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