Joe Rogan Experience #1184 - Roseanne Barr

1. 0:00 – 1:56

   Roseanne’s “next chapter”: raising functional sons (and catching up)

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      I mean, very few people could ever imagine. Here we go.

   2. RBRoseanne Barr0:03

      I had to start smoking.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:04

      Four, three, two, one. Boom. And we're live.

   4. RBRoseanne Barr0:07

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:07

      Saddle on up to that microphone-

   6. RBRoseanne Barr0:09

      Mm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:09

      ... young lady. How are you?

   8. RBRoseanne Barr0:11

      I'm good. How are you, Joe?

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      Great to see you, always.

   10. RBRoseanne Barr0:13

       It's so great to see you too, and thanks for meeting with my... saying hi to my sons.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:17

       Your sons are great.

   12. RBRoseanne Barr0:19

       Fucking A they are, man, and that's what I figure is my next step in my... in the tale, my next chapter as... What's her name? The girl that everyone loves, the girl, the singer, she's real tall and skinny. I-

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:32

       Taylor Swift?

   14. RBRoseanne Barr0:33

       Yeah. I can't remember anybody's name anymore.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       There's so many people to remember.

   16. RBRoseanne Barr0:37

       Yeah. Well, she said, uh, she's onto her next chapter, and that's how I feel too.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       Uh, w- we were-

   18. RBRoseanne Barr0:44

       And it's gonna be about how... talking to women about how to raise functional sons. This is n... This is needed in America, and I'm gonna step up and do it because all these tales, what with all the news and such, obvious... It's obvious to me, these women have not raised their sons correctly, and I'm gonna correct 'em 'cause I'm tired of them yapping and fucking bitching and moaning. I'm old. I'm gonna tell you what to do to raise decent sons, women.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:14

       Well, your son said something when, when they were doing the little tour of the studio. They saw the picture of, uh, Rosa Parks.

   20. RBRoseanne Barr1:20

       Oh, yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:20

       And your son said, "That's Rosa Parks." And I said, "You're one of the few people that ever just pointed that out and noticed it." And he goes, "Of course." He goes, "Roseanne's my mom. She raised me right."

   22. RBRoseanne Barr1:30

       Aw, that's sweet. Isn't that sweet? That's something. That's getting the, uh... What do you call it?

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:36

       (laughs)

   24. RBRoseanne Barr1:37

       What do they call it? (laughs) I don't know. Pat on the back.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:39

       Yeah. It is a pat on the back.

   26. RBRoseanne Barr1:40

       What's the modern vernacular?

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:42

       I don't... I don't know.

   28. RBRoseanne Barr1:42

       I don't know. There's some slang.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:43

       Well-

   30. RBRoseanne Barr1:43

       I hear 'em.
2. 1:56 – 3:16

   Smoking relapse, Sober October, and “re-tox” jokes

   1. RBRoseanne Barr1:56

      Well, I'm smoking like a bitch, which I hate.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:58

      How often do you smoke?

   3. RBRoseanne Barr2:00

      Every day.

   4. JRJoe Rogan2:01

      Was... Were you smoking before all this happened?

   5. RBRoseanne Barr2:02

      Oh, hell no. Well, secretly.

   6. JRJoe Rogan2:05

      So you just... Secretly.

   7. RBRoseanne Barr2:06

      Doug Stanhope got me back on, the bastard.

   8. JRJoe Rogan2:08

      You son of a bitch.

   9. RBRoseanne Barr2:09

      I quit for, like, 15 years and Doug Stanhope snuck... Every time I'd see Doug, I'd smoke one. That bastard.

   10. JRJoe Rogan2:17

       (exhales)

   11. RBRoseanne Barr2:17

       He's got an evil spell on me.

   12. JRJoe Rogan2:19

       Oh, he's evil little man. He's sober right now.

   13. RBRoseanne Barr2:22

       Uh-huh.

   14. JRJoe Rogan2:22

       No cigarettes for him either. Yeah.

   15. RBRoseanne Barr2:24

       That... He always says that.

   16. JRJoe Rogan2:25

       No, he's doing Sober October.

   17. RBRoseanne Barr2:27

       Are y'all doing Sober October?

   18. JRJoe Rogan2:29

       Yes.

   19. RBRoseanne Barr2:30

       Wow. Why didn't you ask me? I would've sobered up for it.

   20. JRJoe Rogan2:33

       Would you have?

   21. RBRoseanne Barr2:33

       No.

   22. JRJoe Rogan2:34

       No, you wouldn't have done that.

   23. RBRoseanne Barr2:35

       No, I wanna do, uh-

   24. JRJoe Rogan2:37

       Get fucked up October?

   25. RBRoseanne Barr2:37

       I wanna go to re-tox.

   26. JRJoe Rogan2:40

       (laughs) Re-tox is to the detox?

   27. RBRoseanne Barr2:42

       Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's what my boyfriend Johnny calls it.

   28. JRJoe Rogan2:45

       How-

   29. RBRoseanne Barr2:45

       He goes, "It's time to re-tox." (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan2:47

       How many cigarettes are you smoking a day now?
3. 3:16 – 4:27

   Peak outrage culture and the tweet that detonated her career

   1. JRJoe Rogan3:16

      This whole thing has been completely fucking insane. And you caught it-

   2. RBRoseanne Barr3:22

      Really?

   3. JRJoe Rogan3:22

      Yeah, I know.

   4. RBRoseanne Barr3:23

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan3:23

      I don't have to tell you. But you caught this madness, this outrage culture, right at the peak.

   6. RBRoseanne Barr3:29

      Yeah, I did. (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan3:30

      I think you, you hit peak outrage culture.

   8. RBRoseanne Barr3:32

      Thank you. (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan3:33

      Where people didn't give a fuck if you were making a joke, didn't give a fuck if you had no idea that that lady was Black, didn't give a fuck what your mental state was, didn't give a fuck if you were on Ambien, didn't give a fuck if you were drinking, didn't give a fuck if you-

   10. RBRoseanne Barr3:49

       One thing I've learned, Joe-

   11. JRJoe Rogan3:50

       ... sincerely apologized.

   12. RBRoseanne Barr3:51

       Oh, go ahead. I do wanna talk seriously about that.

   13. JRJoe Rogan3:53

       Oh, th- they... but they didn't care that you-

   14. RBRoseanne Barr3:55

       Mm-mm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan3:55

       ... you sincerely apologized and did not... didn't mean to offend. You were cracking a joke about a woman.

   16. RBRoseanne Barr4:03

       It, it was funny how they've mischaracterized it and lied about it and added words to it.

   17. JRJoe Rogan4:09

       Yeah.

   18. RBRoseanne Barr4:10

       But, um, yeah, I'd like to talk about the tweet, but... Uh, yeah, I seriously apologize to all whom I inadvertently offended and... because they were offended for, like... It, it wasn't even what they say they were offended 'cause it didn't say that.

   19. JRJoe Rogan4:27

       No.

4. 4:27 – 5:36

   Mass mind control vs. self-imposed conformity, and being an ‘easy target’

   1. RBRoseanne Barr4:27

      But they think that I tweeted a... said she looked like, um, you know, somebody. And I never said anything about her looks. It was a political tweet. And it's just proof of how, um, everybody's under mass mind control because they took a, um... And of course I'm always interested in that, you know? You know that. I've talked about that.

   2. JRJoe Rogan4:48

      Mass mind control?

   3. RBRoseanne Barr4:49

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan4:49

      I think a lot of it's-

   5. RBRoseanne Barr4:50

      MKUltra.

   6. JRJoe Rogan4:50

      ... self-imposed. That's what I think.

   7. RBRoseanne Barr4:52

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan4:52

      I think people are under the wave of self-imposed mind control. I don't think it's-

   9. RBRoseanne Barr4:56

      (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan4:56

       ... like, there's anybody pulling the strings.

   11. RBRoseanne Barr4:58

       You mean, you think you can get out of it?

   12. JRJoe Rogan5:00

       No. I don't think anyone's pulling the strings. I don't think this is by-

   13. RBRoseanne Barr5:02

       You don't?

   14. JRJoe Rogan5:03

       No, I don't. I don't think it's by design.

   15. RBRoseanne Barr5:04

       Really?

   16. JRJoe Rogan5:04

       I think people are caught up in a wave of fear and paranoia-

   17. RBRoseanne Barr5:08

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan5:08

       ... and political correctness, and I think one of the reasons why atta... they attacked someone like you is, first of all, you're wealthy and successful and famous-

   19. RBRoseanne Barr5:15

       And beautiful.

   20. JRJoe Rogan5:16

       ... which... You are beautiful.

   21. RBRoseanne Barr5:17

       Thank you.

   22. JRJoe Rogan5:17

       And one of the best comics of all time.

   23. RBRoseanne Barr5:19

       Oh, thank you so much.

   24. JRJoe Rogan5:19

       And you're also, uh, you're, you're an, an easy target.

   25. RBRoseanne Barr5:25

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan5:25

       You're a, a white woman and you're-

   27. RBRoseanne Barr5:27

       Well, I don't identify as a white woman.

   28. JRJoe Rogan5:30

       What do you identify as?

   29. RBRoseanne Barr5:31

       Uh, I identify a- as a Jew.

   30. JRJoe Rogan5:34

       Well, there you go.
5. 5:36 – 6:28

   What she *meant*: Iran politics, Planet of the Apes, and tweet-storm context

   1. JRJoe Rogan5:36

      And this is what you thought this woman was as well. What is her name again?

   2. RBRoseanne Barr5:38

      Well, she looks like my cousin Sharon. She looks, uh, just like my cousin. But it wasn't nothing to do with how she looks. That came after my tweet.

   3. JRJoe Rogan5:47

      But the-

   4. RBRoseanne Barr5:47

      Uh, no, but-

   5. JRJoe Rogan5:48

      ... the looks... But wasn't it about The Planet of the Apes?

   6. RBRoseanne Barr5:49

      It was about the work of her hands, what she engineered in Iran, and I'd been on there talking about the r... the... I call it a, a woman's revolution in Iran for years.... and speaking to people in Iran about it and what it means to, uh, the- the women who are second-class citizens there. And, uh, so if you take that one tweet out of, like, probably ... I tweet a lot, you know. (laughs) So it's probably-

   7. JRJoe Rogan6:22

      You do. You go crazy.

   8. RBRoseanne Barr6:23

      ... 400,000.

   9. JRJoe Rogan6:24

      You get on tweet storms.

   10. RBRoseanne Barr6:24

       No, I don't go crazy. I stay crazy.

   11. JRJoe Rogan6:27

       (laughs)

6. 6:28 – 7:52

   Comedian brain, ‘crazy’ creativity, and feeling like an alien

   1. RBRoseanne Barr6:28

      I admit it. I mean, what the fuck? They're like, "You know what? You've said you were crazy for years. And you know what? You're crazy." Well, yeah. I said it for fucking years.

   2. JRJoe Rogan6:38

      Yeah. Well, it's also one of the reasons why you're so funny.

   3. RBRoseanne Barr6:38

      All of us are crazy.

   4. JRJoe Rogan6:40

      Yeah.

   5. RBRoseanne Barr6:40

      All comics are fucking nutso.

   6. JRJoe Rogan6:42

      100%.

   7. RBRoseanne Barr6:43

      I don't ... At least I don't wash my keys like some.

   8. JRJoe Rogan6:45

      Wash their keys?

   9. RBRoseanne Barr6:46

      I know some guys, they ha- they gotta wash their keys five, six, seven times-

   10. JRJoe Rogan6:50

       (laughs)

   11. RBRoseanne Barr6:50

       ... before they can go on stage. What's his name? Oh, I'm so bad on names. Chris Farley? I always ask comics, you know. I ask them, "What's, what's your secret number?" What's yours, Joe? I don't know if I asked yo-

   12. JRJoe Rogan7:03

       I don't have a secret number.

   13. RBRoseanne Barr7:04

       You don't have a number?

   14. JRJoe Rogan7:04

       No.

   15. RBRoseanne Barr7:04

       You don't have to do something a number of times? You don't have a number?

   16. JRJoe Rogan7:08

       No, I don't have a number.

   17. RBRoseanne Barr7:09

       What's your birth date?

   18. JRJoe Rogan7:10

       8/11/67.

   19. RBRoseanne Barr7:12

       8 ... What's that? August?

   20. JRJoe Rogan7:13

       August.

   21. RBRoseanne Barr7:14

       8/11/67. You were born in 1967?

   22. JRJoe Rogan7:23

       Yes.

   23. RBRoseanne Barr7:24

       Jesus F. Christ. Um, I was in the ... My ... I was in the Utah State Hospital when you were born.

   24. JRJoe Rogan7:33

       What were you doing? Giving birth?

   25. RBRoseanne Barr7:35

       No. I was in a mental institution.

   26. JRJoe Rogan7:37

       Whoa.

   27. RBRoseanne Barr7:37

       That was my first hospitalization. It lasted for nine months, and it was the Utah State Hospital in Provo, where the Osmonds are from.

   28. JRJoe Rogan7:48

       Mm.

   29. RBRoseanne Barr7:48

       So I was always a big Marie Osmond fan.

7. 7:52 – 26:58

   Mental health, Ambien, and how society treats psychological injury

   1. JRJoe Rogan7:52

      The, the mental health aspect of this conversation is, is an important one because here's my take on this.

   2. RBRoseanne Barr7:58

      It's extremely important.

   3. JRJoe Rogan7:59

      It is important.

   4. RBRoseanne Barr8:00

      Mm-hmm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan8:00

      And yesterday was Mental Health Awareness Day.

   6. RBRoseanne Barr8:02

      Yes, I know. And I was quite aware of being mentally healthy yesterday as I was smoking. (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan8:10

      (laughs) If someone has-

   8. RBRoseanne Barr8:11

      And eating cheese. All I eat is cheese.

   9. JRJoe Rogan8:13

      If someone has a, an injured leg, you don't expect them to run marathons. If someone has, uh, you know, something wrong with their liver, you don't expect them to process food correctly. You don't blame it on them. But if someone has a mental health issue and they do something erratic-

   10. RBRoseanne Barr8:30

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan8:30

       ... or they say something that's inappropriate and then they apologize for it, pe-

   12. RBRoseanne Barr8:35

       Or if they're a comedian.

   13. JRJoe Rogan8:36

       Or if they're a comedian, and you, you've had legitimate, real, diagnosed, treated mental health issues, trauma-related issues-

   14. RBRoseanne Barr8:47

       (burps)

   15. JRJoe Rogan8:47

       There you go.

   16. RBRoseanne Barr8:47

       How do you like that, baby?

   17. JRJoe Rogan8:48

       Like it. Just a little-

   18. RBRoseanne Barr8:49

       I can do the alpha bit.

   19. JRJoe Rogan8:50

       I think you do better. Can you?

   20. RBRoseanne Barr8:51

       Yeah, hell yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan8:52

       Congratulations. But for whatever reason-

   22. RBRoseanne Barr8:54

       Mm-hmm.

   23. JRJoe Rogan8:54

       ... people want to pretend that this is a deliberate act by a calculating person-

   24. RBRoseanne Barr9:01

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan9:01

       ... who is just being an asshole.

   26. RBRoseanne Barr9:03

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan9:03

       And that's not the case. You're not an asshole.

   28. RBRoseanne Barr9:05

       Not at n- not at this time. (laughs) I have been an asshole on Twitter-

   29. JRJoe Rogan9:09

       But you weren't ... But you weren't-

   30. RBRoseanne Barr9:10

       ... for a long time. Yeah.
8. 26:58 – 33:18

   Traumatic brain injury and hospitalization at 15: the origin story

   1. JRJoe Rogan26:58

      Oh, yeah. What, what was it that... When you first got, um, brought into a mental hospital, what was it about?

   2. RBRoseanne Barr27:06

      Well, I had got hit, uh, by a car and the, uh, the hood ornament went in my head, in my brains, and scrambled them. And I, I used to be an A+ math student. I was just great in geometry. Oh, my God, I loved geometry. I got straight A's. And, uh, then, you know, I sort of fell apart after that. Took a long time to, uh, heal from it and, um, you know, uh, th-

   3. JRJoe Rogan27:35

      How much did your personality change?

   4. RBRoseanne Barr27:37

      Oh, it changed drastically. But, you know, you read all that stuff about, uh, traumatic head injuries now, 'cause I, I do read a lot and talk to a lot of football players who have the same thing. And we, we do discuss it. Yeah, you change right away.

   5. JRJoe Rogan27:51

      Yeah.

   6. RBRoseanne Barr27:51

      It's still you, but it's like a, a... It's kind of like an arti- artificial intelligence you.

   7. JRJoe Rogan27:57

      Do you find, um... Did, did you find that you became much more impulsive?

   8. RBRoseanne Barr28:02

      Oh, yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan28:03

      Yeah.

   10. RBRoseanne Barr28:03

       You know what I... Well, yeah. Here's what happened. I was crossing the street on my way to school.

   11. JRJoe Rogan28:12

       How old were you?

   12. RBRoseanne Barr28:12

       Mm. I was 16. No, I was 15. Going to first, uh, week of high school. And, uh, I was a big nerd. And anyway, I was crossing the street and it, it was the top of a hill. And this woman, girl, she was on her way to the university, and the sun blinded her and she ran me over. And, uh, the rest is her-story. (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan28:49

       (sighs) How, how long were you in the hospital for?

   14. RBRoseanne Barr28:53

       Mm. Some weeks.

   15. JRJoe Rogan28:54

       So first, you must have been in... You must have been in a medical hospital first, and then you were mis- admitted to a mental hospital afterwards?

   16. RBRoseanne Barr28:59

       Well, there was about three months in between.

   17. JRJoe Rogan29:02

       Right.

   18. RBRoseanne Barr29:03

       Uh, but I was in the hospital for a while, you know. And, uh, I had a head concussion and a brain concussion. And I had hamburger meat for legs. So they did all these, um... What do they call them? Skin graphs on my legs. Uh, and, um... Yeah, I was in there for a while. Then I came out of there, and I had forgotten everything about math when I returned to school, which, uh, m- matter of weeks after that, maybe two months. I, I'm really bad on time now. But, uh... And, uh, I had forgotten all my math and it was just terrible. That was a big depressive, depression I went into because couldn't remember... I couldn't remember things, you know. And also, I became way more impulsive. Then I was like, I don't know what I did. Then I started going really out there into the ethers. (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:03

       Mm.

   20. RBRoseanne Barr30:03

       I went way out there.

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:04

       Like how so?

   22. RBRoseanne Barr30:05

       Way out. You know how you go way out? Do you ever go way out?

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:09

       Not really.

   24. RBRoseanne Barr30:10

       Oh.

   25. JRJoe Rogan30:10

       I mean, I've had a lot of head injuries.

   26. RBRoseanne Barr30:12

       Oh, yeah. I bet.

   27. JRJoe Rogan30:13

       But not terrible.

   28. RBRoseanne Barr30:15

       Mm-hmm.

   29. JRJoe Rogan30:15

       Mostly just punches and kicks. Nothing like car accidents-

   30. RBRoseanne Barr30:20

       Yeah, yeah.
9. 33:18 – 1:19:04

   Inside Utah State Hospital: meds, danger, and dark comedy survival

   1. JRJoe Rogan33:18

      So when they admitted you, what was the treatment? Like what did they do to you when you were inside the mental hospital?

   2. RBRoseanne Barr33:27

      Well, they right away put me on an antipsychotic.

   3. JRJoe Rogan33:30

      What was it? Do you remember?

   4. RBRoseanne Barr33:31

      Mellaril.

   5. JRJoe Rogan33:32

      And what did that do?

   6. RBRoseanne Barr33:34

      I don't know.

   7. JRJoe Rogan33:35

      (laughs)

   8. RBRoseanne Barr33:37

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan33:37

      (laughs)

   10. RBRoseanne Barr33:37

       I wasn't there.

   11. JRJoe Rogan33:38

       (coughs) You weren't there. You were gone.

   12. RBRoseanne Barr33:39

       I w- uh-huh. I was gone. I was just watching these people I was in the mental institution with, and I wanted to tell that story.

   13. JRJoe Rogan33:46

       Yeah.

   14. RBRoseanne Barr33:46

       Because there was this one lady. I think I told this to Paul Reubens too. I think it might be where he got Large Marge.

   15. JRJoe Rogan33:53

       (laughs)

   16. RBRoseanne Barr33:54

       But, uh, there was this one lady and she's in this cage.

   17. JRJoe Rogan33:57

       (gasps)

   18. RBRoseanne Barr33:57

       You know, she's in a cage with keys on our ward there. And, uh, uh... Christ, I can't remember her name either. Oh, Marge.

   19. JRJoe Rogan34:07

       Her name was Marge?

   20. RBRoseanne Barr34:08

       Yeah. And she's about 600, 700 pounds.

   21. JRJoe Rogan34:11

       Whoa.

   22. RBRoseanne Barr34:12

       And, uh, she's funnier than hell. You know, I thought, "Man, this, this chick's got some good lines." You know? And I've traded lines with her and she'd laugh. You know, y- you know, I always like jokes. You can always find a joke wherever you are, you know. That's the key to life, I think. But, um... So she... Oh, everybody called me Chunky. That was my name, Chunky.

   23. JRJoe Rogan34:40

       (laughs)

   24. RBRoseanne Barr34:42

       And, uh, there was another girl in there named Shorty. So it was Chunky and Shorty. We were like a duo. (laughs) But anyway, um, so she's like, "Hey, Roseanne, get what's-her-name's keys when they go to dinner and open this up here and, you know, come in here." I'm like, "Okay." You know, because, you know, after all, I was crazy too. And, uh, (clears throat) I trust... I don't know. I, uh, just always... I never questioned that there was danger anywhere. I always got in trouble, you know, caught, beat up, something, you know. But, uh, so I did it, you know, and I can't... Oh, Anka, that was her name, the head nurse. I hated her because she told me I needed to bathe. I'll tell that story later.

   25. JRJoe Rogan35:29

       (laughs)

   26. RBRoseanne Barr35:29

       It was horrifying. It changed my life. But anyway, so they all go to dinner. So I go in there, steal the keys out of the thing where they are, you know, the attendants, and I go in there with Marge and (clears throat) leave the keys in the door and close the door. Yeah. So I'm like, "Hey, Marge, you know... (laughs) How's it going, Marge?" (laughs) And she's like, "Chunky, you know why they put me in this cage, don't you?" Takes a drag of a cigarette. I go, "What? Why? No, I don't know why." "Well, Chunky, it's because they consider me to be dangerous." I'm like, "How come?"

   27. JRJoe Rogan36:25

       (laughs)

   28. RBRoseanne Barr36:25

       (laughs) I am... I'm like Gomer Pyle.

   29. JRJoe Rogan36:27

       Right.

   30. RBRoseanne Barr36:27

       Seriously. I'm total Gomer Pyle.
10. 50:20 – 1:05:55

    Reboot mechanics and fallout: writers’ room fights, cast reactions, and ‘The Conners’

    1. JRJoe Rogan50:20

       Right. Now, when you were first approached about doing a Roseanne, uh, uh, uh, uh, relaunch, when they came to you, how, how did this all take place? And did you get to pick the people that you worked with?

    2. RBRoseanne Barr50:35

       Um... I had already said about a year prior to that, that I supported Trump over Hillary, and it was like, you know, a big... It was in all the papers in Hollywood, how, how could she and, you know, this and that and the other.

    3. JRJoe Rogan50:52

       But it didn't seem to bother the American people.

    4. RBRoseanne Barr50:54

       No.

    5. JRJoe Rogan50:54

       Like, outside of Hollywood-

    6. RBRoseanne Barr50:55

       Well, they're my audience.

    7. JRJoe Rogan50:56

       Yeah.

    8. RBRoseanne Barr50:56

       Well, you know, I always try to make content for the audience, not for the critics.

    9. JRJoe Rogan51:01

       Right.

    10. RBRoseanne Barr51:02

        And, uh-

    11. JRJoe Rogan51:02

        And not for the industry.

    12. RBRoseanne Barr51:03

        Not for the industry, no.

    13. JRJoe Rogan51:05

        The industry is ruthlessly left, like, into-

    14. RBRoseanne Barr51:07

        Yeah.

    15. JRJoe Rogan51:07

        ... to the point where it's not even a thinking thing. It's just like they automatically go left because that's the way you're accepted in this town. That's the way you stay working. That's the way you stay invited to all the good parties.

    16. RBRoseanne Barr51:20

        Well, that's the way that certain Stalinist types in show business keep it, you know? Uh, you know, everything about the media is tightly controlled in Hollywood.

    17. JRJoe Rogan51:32

        So when they came, who came to you with the relaunch? How did it, h- like, how does it happen that Roseanne is canceled for so long-

    18. RBRoseanne Barr51:38

        Uh, Jon and Sarah were, they did a sketch on Sarah's talk show, and everyone liked it, and Sarah called me.

    19. JRJoe Rogan51:48

        And said?

    20. RBRoseanne Barr51:48

        She said, "Jon said he's in if you, you know, if you're in."

    21. JRJoe Rogan51:53

        So you say, "Let's do it."

    22. RBRoseanne Barr51:55

        "Well, if Jon's in, of course. Is Lori in?"

    23. JRJoe Rogan51:58

        Right.

    24. RBRoseanne Barr51:58

        "Yeah, Lori's in. Okay. Uh, yeah, let's do it."

    25. JRJoe Rogan52:02

        So what, who turned on you after this was over?

    26. RBRoseanne Barr52:08

        Um, well, I'm, my coven of lawyers advises I not get-

    27. JRJoe Rogan52:12

        Okay.

    28. RBRoseanne Barr52:12

        ... into this at this time.

    29. JRJoe Rogan52:13

        That's probably a good-

    30. RBRoseanne Barr52:15

        You know, I think it's self-explanatory.
11. 1:05:55 – 1:22:51

    No path to redemption: social media punishment vs. real-life support

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:05:55

       Well, one of the things that's most shocking, uh, about this outrage culture that we live in right now, this age of outrage, is that there's no path to redemption. There's, there's no acceptance of apologies-

    2. RBRoseanne Barr1:06:12

       There is, though. There is, though.

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:06:13

       Yeah, but there's not from the general public.

    4. RBRoseanne Barr1:06:15

       Oh yeah. The public ... Everywhere I went, people run up to me. I've never felt so much love-

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:06:20

       In real life. In real life.

    6. RBRoseanne Barr1:06:21

       ... in my entire career, in real life.

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:06:23

       But not on Twitter and not on Facebook.

    8. RBRoseanne Barr1:06:24

       Oh, no. Not on social media, no.

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:06:26

       Right, not on social media. Social media, it, it magnifies the very worst aspects of humanity-

    10. RBRoseanne Barr1:06:31

        Yeah.

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:06:31

        ... because you're not interacting with people in the real flesh.

    12. RBRoseanne Barr1:06:35

        Right.

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:06:36

        You're not experiencing social cues. You're not looking them in the eye. You're not seeing them as a person.

    14. RBRoseanne Barr1:06:40

        Yeah.

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:06:41

        You're just seeing them as a target online.

    16. RBRoseanne Barr1:06:43

        Well, I think that Twitter ha- has a ... is a purposeful plan, uh, like Facebook. I got off Facebook years ago 'cause I realized what they were doing.

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:06:52

        What do you think f- Twitter's doing?

    18. RBRoseanne Barr1:06:54

        It's doing the same thing that Facebook did.

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:06:56

        How so?

    20. RBRoseanne Barr1:06:57

        It's manufacturing consent.... and, you know, is using bots to do it. (laughs) It's like-

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:07:03

        What do you mean by manufacturing consent?

    22. RBRoseanne Barr1:07:05

        Uh, it's-

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:07:05

        In what way?

    24. RBRoseanne Barr1:07:06

        ... a place where, like Noam Chomsky says, you know, the press manufactures consent, the consent of the governed. So that's what they're doing, is manufacturing the consent of the governed. But they also manufacture dissent. They control the opposition too on Twitter. And I like getting in between those two and causing a ruckus, 'cause I knew it was all artificial intelligence anyway. It's all just to track us. We all know that. Just like they do in China.

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:07:36

        So, what are you saying? You think there's some sort of a grand plan to get people to argue with each other?

    26. RBRoseanne Barr1:07:41

        Yeah, I think it's a social experiment to turn one group against another. Which, you know, it's smart, 'cause it's the divide and conquer.

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:07:49

        Mm-hmm.

    28. RBRoseanne Barr1:07:49

        And as long as we're ... Like, you know, there's all these people getting robbed, all these taxpayers getting robbed, sitting there pointing to other taxpayers that are getting robbed and blaming them. Uh, but nobody- everybody needs to look upward of our government and ask for an audit of our taxes and actually take responsibility for the things our country does. We're getting judged for it anyway.

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:08:10

        I think there's certainly people that are capitalizing-

    30. RBRoseanne Barr1:08:12

        What we allow.

Episode duration: 2:13:06