Joe Rogan Experience #1186 - Marques Brownlee

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (clears throat) Here we go.…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (clears throat) Here we go. Four, three, two, one. Boom. First of all, before we get started, I wanna say, I love your reviews.

   2. MBMarques Brownlee0:10

      Thank you.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:10

      You are my favorite. You, you have the ... Well, you and Lou. I love Lou too, but you, you, you're so good at covering all the bases of whether it's cellphones or any kinda weird technology that's coming out, and you just, you just nail it. You just, y- you're so ... I ... You're my go-to guy, man.

   4. MBMarques Brownlee0:28

      Well, thank you. That's quite an intro.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:30

      (laughs)

   6. MBMarques Brownlee0:30

      (laughs) I appreciate that.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:31

      I really wanna tell you, like, whenever a, a new cellphone's out ... Like, I saw that you walked in with the RED, but that's ... You're n- ... That's not your daily driver?

   8. MBMarques Brownlee0:37

      No, I thought you would like this. This is ... I mean, every phone now is-

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:41

      Mm.

   10. MBMarques Brownlee0:41

       ... is glass on glass and everything.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:42

       Yeah.

   12. MBMarques Brownlee0:43

       Uh, but this, this RED HYDROGEN One has a lot of weird stuff about it. Uh, it's ... First of all, it's about twice as big as it has to be, but it's, it's from RED, which is a camera company.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:53

       Wow, all these buttons-

   14. MBMarques Brownlee0:55

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       ... everywhere.

   16. MBMarques Brownlee0:55

       So they really get it-

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       Oh, this is a grip.

   18. MBMarques Brownlee0:57

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       This is not buttons. This is just a grip, this texture on the outside.

   20. MBMarques Brownlee0:59

       Rubberized side grip. You could probably drop it from 45 feet and it'd be fine.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:03

       (laughs)

   22. MBMarques Brownlee1:03

       Throw it across the room. But the weird part is it's made by RED. So RED's-

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:07

       Mm-hmm.

   24. MBMarques Brownlee1:07

       ... a camera company. They're, they ... I use their cameras. I love their cameras. But then they come out with this, which is a phone, which is kinda weird. But-

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:13

       There it is right there on the screen.

   26. MBMarques Brownlee1:14

       ... they do ... Yeah, that's my photo actually. So-

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:16

       Ah.

   28. MBMarques Brownlee1:16

       That's next to the, the iPhone 8 Plus, which is already a huge phone and it's much bigger.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:19

       What is this, um, metal thing on the back, the brass-looking with dots?

   30. MBMarques Brownlee1:22

       So it's got these pins, and it's supposed to next year support modules that will connect to it. So potentially-
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      XS Max, this one right here.

   2. MBMarques Brownlee15:01

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:01

      But I'm so sour on Apple because of what they did with the batteries.

   4. MBMarques Brownlee15:06

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:07

      That was such a dirty thing to me because everybody had always suspected. Like, my friend Bryan was always like, "Dude, I'm telling you, when the new phones come out, your old phone starts moving slower." I'm like-

   6. MBMarques Brownlee15:17

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:17

      ... "Dude, that's a conspiracy. That's all horse shit."

   8. MBMarques Brownlee15:19

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:19

      Like, "Your phone's just old, bro." But then, when I found out that it was real-

   10. MBMarques Brownlee15:22

       Mm-hmm.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:23

       ... I was like, "You assholes."

   12. MBMarques Brownlee15:25

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:25

       And to pretend-

   14. MBMarques Brownlee15:26

       It's ... The problem, the problem was the way they didn't tell people. Like, they could've just, uh, avoided, like, the whole whatever, like, PR or whatever you wanna call it, by just telling people, "Look, this is what we do when your phone's getting older. We need to preserve either the CPU or the battery, so we need to either voltage down the CPU or ch- save your battery. Pick one," and give us a choice. They didn't tell us until people started suspecting things and they had to make a statement, and then it looked kinda dirty and, like, hidden. And then-

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:53

       It does ... But I don't buy it.

   16. MBMarques Brownlee15:54

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:55

       I think it's a trick to try to get you to buy new phones. I don't ... It-

   18. MBMarques Brownlee15:57

       There's no way they didn't think about that.

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:59

       Yeah, of course they thought about it.

   20. MBMarques Brownlee16:00

       There's no chance they didn't think about that. Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:01

       Why else would they do it that way? Why wou- why else wouldn't they just let the battery be slower, or the-

   22. MBMarques Brownlee16:06

       And then-

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:06

       ... let the, the, the CPU be slower?

   24. MBMarques Brownlee16:08

       And the best part is they give you the choice now, but if you never look for it, you'll never find it. And they definitely still default to saving your battery by under-clocking a chip.

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:18

       Ugh.

   26. MBMarques Brownlee16:18

       So, your phone will still slow down if you don't know where to find that option in the settings.

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:21

       As soon as the new phones come out?

   28. MBMarques Brownlee16:24

       Basically.

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:24

       You motherfuckers.

   30. MBMarques Brownlee16:25

       (laughs)
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Mm-hmm. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      keyboard that's probably similar to that Surface Book.

   2. MBMarques Brownlee30:02

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:02

      And it's supposed to have better battery life, right?

   4. MBMarques Brownlee30:05

      Bezel less.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:06

      Yeah, bezel less.

   6. MBMarques Brownlee30:07

      Touch screen.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:07

      Touch screen.

   8. MBMarques Brownlee30:08

      Higher resolution.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:09

      But you gotta deal with Windows 10, which is a little bit of a pain in the ass, I gotta admit. It's like the updates are almost daily.

   10. MBMarques Brownlee30:16

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:16

       There's something going on with firmware or something going on with this or that or ...

   12. MBMarques Brownlee30:21

       I've gotten used to it, mostly though because most of what I do on my laptop is pretty web based, so I'm just living in Chrome or Safari or whatever.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:29

       Right.

   14. MBMarques Brownlee30:29

       So it's not a big deal. But then yeah, once I have to go out and I'm gonna go in Lightroom and do some photo work and then like suddenly I'm digging through files and I'm in Windows and it's, then you start to-

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:38

       Yeah.

   16. MBMarques Brownlee30:38

       ... feel like you're different.

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:40

       Yeah, when you, well first time you have to update a driver you're like, "What is it? 1996?"

   18. MBMarques Brownlee30:44

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:45

       "What the fuck is going on here?" Updating drivers?

   20. MBMarques Brownlee30:47

       Yeah. I try to avoid that.

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:49

       Ew.... it's just, they're close, though. Like, it's way better than it was five years ago.

   22. MBMarques Brownlee30:55

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:55

       You know, five years ago, you would look at Windows, you'd be like, "This is, like, some archaic, pixelated-"

   24. MBMarques Brownlee31:00

       Came from Vista to Windows 7 to Windows 10. Vista was kind of that nightmare, and then they kinda-

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:07

       (coughs)

   26. MBMarques Brownlee31:07

       ... have worked upwards since then.

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:08

       I started with Windows 95. I used to make my own computers back in my hardcore video gaming days.

   28. MBMarques Brownlee31:14

       Nice. Same.

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:15

       I used to go to Fry's Electronics and get motherboards and the box and fans and-

   30. MBMarques Brownlee31:20

       I started that online, so I never went to a physical computer store to buy parts. But I would have to do the whole, like, cross, cross-referencing what's compatible with what online and then put together a whole list and then just buy it. And then nine boxes show up.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Mm-hmm. …

   1. MBMarques Brownlee45:00

      and podcasts. So my whole Spotify, whatever is like 30 gigs.

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:04

      Mm-hmm.

   3. MBMarques Brownlee45:04

      And then whatever podcasts I have is a couple more gigs. I don't need a 512 gig phone for everything I usually keep offline. I have a couple big apps, but not really. Uh, and then all the photos I take get uploaded automatically to Google Photos in full resolution, and I never really have to keep all of them locally.

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:23

      Hmm.

   5. MBMarques Brownlee45:24

      So every photo I've ever taken in full resolution is on my phone, even though I only have 128 gigs of storage.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:29

      Now, when you use the Google version of like, whatever iPhoto is, iPhoto uploads everything to the cloud, it's really simple. When you get a new phone, everything loads up to it. Does the same thing happen with Google?

   7. MBMarques Brownlee45:41

      Same thing. Google Photos.

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:42

      Basically just as good?

   9. MBMarques Brownlee45:43

      Yeah. And you can use it on an iPhone, which is, you don't have to, but yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:45

       Really?

   11. MBMarques Brownlee45:46

       Google Photos, I have Google Photos on my iPhone. So every time I take great photos on this phone, they're on my iPhone already.

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:51

       Oh, that is actually nice.

   13. MBMarques Brownlee45:53

       So having the app is pretty useful.

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:55

       That's nice.

   15. MBMarques Brownlee45:56

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan45:56

       And I know there's a thing that's one of the things that people really love about iPhones is that AirDrop feature. That's very nice.

   17. MBMarques Brownlee46:02

       Yeah. That's one of the best (laughs) Apple-

   18. JRJoe Rogan46:05

       Yeah.

   19. MBMarques Brownlee46:05

       ... only features. Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan46:07

       Yeah. But don't they have an Android? There's an Android Drop too now. I know that because I've used it-

   21. MBMarques Brownlee46:12

       Yes.

   22. JRJoe Rogan46:13

       ... to send things from my Samsung phone to my Apple phone.

   23. MBMarques Brownlee46:17

       Um, possibly. So there's, it's not like a, a first party thing. So NFC is useful when I want to send something between two Android phones that have NFC. But this is something I recently, I wasn't really using AirDrop until recently. And then I was like, oh wait, I do have a Mac and an iPhone. I can just trans- transfer files back and forth. And I, we started doing that in the office a lot, which we, uh, we have a bunch of Macs and iPhones in the office. So we started like passing files back and forth. And then one day I was trying to do it on my Android phone, I was like, wow, this is like a bummer. I have to go into like Dropbox and upload it and then download it. And it would, just those couple extra steps were a pain.

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:55

       Mm-hmm.

   25. MBMarques Brownlee46:55

       And it made me really appreciate how good AirDrop is, but-

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:58

       AirDrop's pretty good.

   27. MBMarques Brownlee46:59

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan46:59

       Apple's really good at making things super simple.

   29. MBMarques Brownlee47:02

       Yep.

   30. JRJoe Rogan47:02

       Like, you don't, you don't ever really have to update things un- until the OS updates, and it's pretty rare.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:06:58

   Ah. …

   1. MBMarques Brownlee1:00:00

      Note when it came out. We stopped making explosion jokes this year. I noticed that.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:04

      Ah.

   3. MBMarques Brownlee1:00:04

      Like we, the Galaxy Note 7 had all the explosion jokes. Note 8 came out, all the explosion jokes. That last year it exploded, guys.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:11

      Right.

   5. MBMarques Brownlee1:00:11

      So what have they done this year that's better? Now we're on Note 9 and I think we're kinda over it.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:16

      Mm-hmm. Good.

   7. MBMarques Brownlee1:00:17

      Two years, that's all long it takes.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:18

      Well, that's today though. I mean-

   9. MBMarques Brownlee1:00:20

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:20

       ... the- the- the short cycle of news today. Like things come and go so quickly.

   11. MBMarques Brownlee1:00:25

       But I wonder if that would've happened to an iPhone.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:28

       Hmm.

   13. MBMarques Brownlee1:00:28

       What kind of nightmare that would've been.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:31

       I wonder.

   15. MBMarques Brownlee1:00:31

       I also think there's probably no way it would've happened to an iPhone. Like you would think there's no way it would happen to Samsung but somehow it did, but like there's this whole process of like getting a battery supplier for your phone, and then there's trusting their quality testing, and then using that supplier for your manufacturing and all that. Um, and I don't know how different that process is for Samsung versus other manufacturers like Apple, but it just seems like Apple would never let that sort of oversight slip.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:58

       Right. Hmm. I wonder.

   17. MBMarques Brownlee1:01:00

       But if it did, how crazy would that have happened?

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:01:01

       Well, Samsung comes out with new phones way quicker. Right?

   19. MBMarques Brownlee1:01:05

       They... So they come out with phones more often but they update their lineups at the same rate, like once a year for Note.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:01:13

       Mm-hmm.

   21. MBMarques Brownlee1:01:13

       And also once a year for Galaxy S.... but since they're six months apart, it looks like they made four new phones. You know what I mean?

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:01:20

       Right. I see.

   23. MBMarques Brownlee1:01:20

       So we're gonna get a new phone every April. Galaxy S10 will come out in April.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:25

       Hmm.

   25. MBMarques Brownlee1:01:25

       And then they'll get Galaxy Note in, uh, September.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:28

       Right.

   27. MBMarques Brownlee1:01:28

       It's like, "Well, that's only six months." Well, that's part of a different lineup. So like Galaxy S is every year, Galaxy Note is every year. They have all these other lineups. So they-

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:35

       Hmm.

   29. MBMarques Brownlee1:01:35

       ... they did make a lot more phones, for sure.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:37

       And are they still doing the Sport? 'Cause they had that Sport model.

Episode duration: 2:22:26