Joe Rogan Experience #1192 - Tony Hinchcliffe

Joe Rogan 0:01 ... -on. Powerful young Tony Hinchcliffe.

Tony Hinchcliffe 0:03 Hello.

Joe Rogan 0:04 I'm smelling this weed. (sniffs) In 12 hours, I'll be free.

Tony Hinchcliffe 0:09 I'm excited for you, dude. I didn't do shit for Sober October.

Joe Rogan 0:12 (sighs) Did you stay drunk?

Tony Hinchcliffe 0:14 Uh, I didn't stay drunk. I just had a, a drink or two pretty much every night.

Joe Rogan 0:18 Would you ever consider doing something like Sober October?

Tony Hinchcliffe 0:20 I mean, like, if, you know, if I was a part of it, and, like, I got all that promotional push that everybody's giving themselves, hell yeah. For the business point, for the-

Joe Rogan 0:29 That's the only reason why you'd do it?

Tony Hinchcliffe 0:30 That's the only reason I would do it.

Joe Rogan 0:31 Hm.

Tony Hinchcliffe 0:31 I have no reason. I'm in, I'm in, you know, I'm in perfect shape, feel good about life.

Joe Rogan 0:36 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 0:36 Every day is good. You know, I- I- I've been cutting back on things naturally. Like, I'm done with my, like, college years of, you know, getting wasted at the store and things like that. Like, it's like, you-

Joe Rogan 0:47 Well, you're also not smoking cigarettes anymore.

Tony Hinchcliffe 0:49 Right. I'm off cigarettes, which helps a lot, by the way. You know, I gotta say, for anybody out there that drinks and smokes, the two correlate. You quit one, it's gonna help with the other big time. S- but I mean, I'm just saying, like, cutting back on smoking, 'cause the two go so good together.

Joe Rogan 1:05 Yeah, you were finding that those pens weren't really helping you that much, huh?

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:09 The nicotine pens?

Joe Rogan 1:10 Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:10 Oh, yeah, no, I loved them. Yeah, they're, they're-

Joe Rogan 1:12 But did it help you quit?

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:13 'Cause you s- you were still, you were saying that it's not the same.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:16 It's not the same. I mean, when you're a c- when you love cigarettes, and both of my parents smoked. N- my mom quit when she got pregnant with me and then started again, like, a year later, and she would smoke, like, in the little, you know, the little house that I grew up in. And it was just always, like, my whole life was, I was built to be a cigarette smoker.

Joe Rogan 1:35 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:35 Those two were probably smoking ciggies while banging, making me. Like, it was like, I just love cigarettes. I even still love the nice gust of secondhand smoke. It... Now that I'm a non-smoker, it blows my mind hearing people all those years say, "Oh, cigarettes stink." Like, it's like, I f- I fucking love it.

Joe Rogan 1:52 Really?

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:53 Oh, I just love it. It just makes me feel good. It's weird, and I know-

Joe Rogan 1:58 That is weird.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:58 ... 'cause it's pure poison. It just goes to show, like-

Joe Rogan 2:00 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 2:00 ... what a dark lord I am.

Joe Rogan 2:02 Is that you, or is that just cigarettes in general have a grip on people? It's a dark grip.

Tony Hinchcliffe 2:07 It really is. It's so crazy, 'cause what else gives you nothing and takes everything?

Joe Rogan 2:12 Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 2:12 And still, it's just, this is my favorite part of the day, favorite part of the night, after sex, during coffee.

Joe Rogan 2:19 They said that Johnny Carson, when he was on his deathbed, was just rotting out from the inside. He was just-

Tony Hinchcliffe 2:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:24 ... falling apart. And he was like, "Those goddamn cigarettes."

Tony Hinchcliffe 2:26 Yeah, it's one of the main reasons why, uh, I actually quit, was reading about Johnny and-

Joe Rogan 2:32 Really?

Tony Hinchcliffe 2:32 Yeah, 'cause it's sort of correlated. I still, you know, go on runs every day, pretty much every day, short jogs and this and that to wake up and get the day started. And there was a while there where I was (clears throat) had a lot of like (clears throat) -

Joe Rogan 2:45 Coughing up shit?

Tony Hinchcliffe 2:46 ... was, like, coming up. Not really coughing up shit, but it was sort of just like it was there, and I'd have to clear my throat before going on stage. And it started to get, like it wasn't-

Joe Rogan 2:55 Like a-

Tony Hinchcliffe 2:55 ... on stage, but it started to creep up during work hours. Like, it's like (clears throat) while like-

Joe Rogan 3:01 Ooh.

Tony Hinchcliffe 3:01 ... Joey Diaz just murked a room, and I'm next. And he's bring, "You guys ready for your next comedian?" I'm like (clears throat) It's like, "Oh, I gotta get my shit together."

Joe Rogan 3:09 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 3:10 (laughs) So, like-

Joe Rogan 3:10 Did you ever cough up anything black?

Tony Hinchcliffe 3:12 No.

Joe Rogan 3:13 I've ha- I've talked to people that have hawked up shit and it was black, and they spit it on the ground and they saw black.

Tony Hinchcliffe 3:19 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 3:19 Like a black loogie.

Tony Hinchcliffe 3:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:21 And I was like, "Why? Did you quit immediately?"

Tony Hinchcliffe 3:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:24 Like, "No, six more years." (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 3:26 Yeah, but I read about Johnny and he was talking about, like, not only was that a major thing, like those damn cigarettes, like that's, he just kept repeating that on his deathbed. But they also talk about, like, how, um, he was like swimming, which he loved to do, and he just, like, couldn't do it anymore. So he was, like, almost drowning all the time and stuff.

Joe Rogan 3:43 (sighs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 3:43 Like, it was just like, he was out, he was gone. He just couldn't breathe. So-

Joe Rogan 3:47 That guy went through a rough patch. Like, not just that. Do you ever read the divorce settlements-

Tony Hinchcliffe 3:53 No.

Joe Rogan 3:53 ... that Johnny Carson had to go through?

Tony Hinchcliffe 3:54 No.

Joe Rogan 3:54 He w- was one of the most famous, like, divorce rapings, where you just go, "Oh my god." Like, you find out how much he had to pay his ex-wife, you're like, "Oh, Jesus."

Tony Hinchcliffe 4:04 Oh, no.

Joe Rogan 4:05 He, he, he, he got taken. (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 4:08 Oh, man.

Joe Rogan 4:09 Eddie Murphy had a bit about it.

Tony Hinchcliffe 4:11 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 4:11 Eddie Murphy had a bit about Johnny Carson's divorce in his act. I think it was in Raw.

Redban 4:17 It was.

Tony Hinchcliffe 4:17 He did it on one of his specials?

Joe Rogan 4:18 Yes.

Redban 4:19 Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 4:19 Wow.

Joe Rogan 4:20 It was that bad.

Tony Hinchcliffe 4:21 Geez.

Joe Rogan 4:21 Yeah.

Redban 4:22 This was on the National Enquirer, but it says, "220 grand a month was not enough."

Joe Rogan 4:26 Wow, Carson's wife rejects settlement and asks $220,000 a month in living expenses. 17 million is not enough, she said.

Redban 4:36 Yeah. That's still fucked up.

Tony Hinchcliffe 4:37 And what-

Joe Rogan 4:37 Wow.

Tony Hinchcliffe 4:37 ... what year does that say at the top left? 80-

Redban 4:40 '83 or '93, yeah, '83.

Joe Rogan 4:41 What did she look like?

Tony Hinchcliffe 4:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:42 She looks kinda hot there in th- like that dirty 40, that dirty 40-year-old look. I like that. (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 4:49 My goodness.

Joe Rogan 4:51 Look at her there.

Tony Hinchcliffe 4:51 And back then, that's like a million a month.

Joe Rogan 4:53 Closing in on her. That was the one he, he split up with?

Redban 4:57 Think so, yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:57 "He gives up fast life and is secretly seeing wife again."

Redban 5:02 Oh.

Joe Rogan 5:02 Oh, well, that's the Enquirer, you know?

Redban 5:03 Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean, that's why I was going to the check out.

Joe Rogan 5:04 So that's, that's the gal he was married to that he had to give up 17 million bucks. (laughs) Oh, so he's married to her for a long time.

Redban 5:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:13 Well, how many times did he get married? That seems like the same gal there.

Redban 5:17 World's w- most expensive, uh...

Joe Rogan 5:19 World's most expensive divorce settlements. Johnny Carson-

Redban 5:22 20 million.

Joe Rogan 5:22 ... and Joanna Holland.

Tony Hinchcliffe 5:24 Wow.

Joe Rogan 5:25 20 million. That ain't shit now. We were going over some last night, or yesterday on the podcast. Uh, Steve Wynn gave up a billion.

Tony Hinchcliffe 5:33 Oh.

Joe Rogan 5:34 (laughs)

Redban 5:35 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 5:35 Oh, what could she have possibly-

Joe Rogan 5:38 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 5:38 ... have done to earn that? Nothing. There's nothing-

Joe Rogan 5:43 What?

Tony Hinchcliffe 5:43 ... she could have done.

Joe Rogan 5:44 She had that voodoo pussy, son.

Tony Hinchcliffe 5:45 Unless she had all the ideas and he's just not admitting it.

Joe Rogan 5:49 Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 5:49 I think it's like, unless she-

Joe Rogan 5:50 You should start a casino.

Tony Hinchcliffe 5:51 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:51 Yeah, maybe I'll start a casino. (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 5:54 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:55 You should have craps.

Tony Hinchcliffe 5:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:56 Yeah, maybe I'll open up a craps table.

Tony Hinchcliffe 5:59 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:59 (laughs) She's a f- (laughs) Even then, even then. How much is a consultation fee worth?

Guest 6:06 Oh, a billion. Oh, yeah, that ... Well, sort of. Look at him by the way. He looks like he's wearing a mask.

Joe Rogan 6:12 Wow.

Guest 6:12 He looks like it's Halloween 24/7.

Joe Rogan 6:15 Yeah. Thr- third divorce unlikely for Steve Wynn. Wow. Poor guy.

Guest 6:20 Good Lord. You think a guy-

Joe Rogan 6:21 Yeah, these guys just keep going in. That's what's crazy. They're like, "No, no, she's the one."

Guest 6:26 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 6:26 "No, no, it's never gonna change."

Guest 6:27 Yeah, he's got it all figured out.

Joe Rogan 6:29 "No, no, she's the one."

Guest 6:31 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 6:31 Yeah. It's a f- a f- a strange thing. You know, it becomes, it comes humorous. Like, Elizabeth Taylor, who was stunningly beautiful when she was young. Did you ever see Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?

Guest 6:44 Uh-uh.

Joe Rogan 6:45 It's a must-see. It's a great, great old movie. But, uh, Elizabeth Taylor was probably in her 20s, I guess, when she did that and she was just so beautiful. But as she got older, like she was-

Guest 6:56 Wow.

Joe Rogan 6:57 See, if you can see ... That's, that's a pretty good picture of her, but if you could see her whole body and everything, I mean, she was just a bombshell. And she was a bombshell in, you know, what was it? The '50s or something like that. Like that picture of her black and white on the, the second level, where you see her body? Yeah. That's a real body, too, dude. There ain't no gym time there. That's just straight up genetics and whiskey.

Guest 7:22 Mm.

Joe Rogan 7:22 Look at them, look at them legs and 10 times ... That's just, just as biology. But then towards the end, I mean, she had been married and divorced. Don't show the old pictures. Don't show the old pictures!

Guest 7:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:36 Stop it, Jamie. You sh- (laughs) Um, google Elizabeth Taylor amount of times married because, uh, I believe she was married-

Redban 7:49 A lot.

Joe Rogan 7:50 ... uh, yeah, I wanna say it's like seven or eight times.

Redban 7:54 No fewer than eight times.

Joe Rogan 7:55 Yeah.

Redban 7:56 She married a couple guys twice.

Joe Rogan 7:57 Eight marriages. Only seven husbands. She married Richard Burton twice. She married a bunch of gay guys, too.

Guest 8:03 Huh.

Redban 8:03 Damn.

Joe Rogan 8:04 Allegedly gay guys. Her first marriage, one of the heirs of the hotelier ... That's a weird word. Hotelier.

Guest 8:10 Hotelier.

Joe Rogan 8:11 Conrad ... Hotelier, is that how you say it?

Redban 8:12 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 8:13 Conrad Hilton, ended in divorce after less than a year. Yeah, she was a wild woman. Wild woman.

Guest 8:19 I wonder if she got paid for all this. That's its own business, right?

Joe Rogan 8:21 Oh, she was rich as fuck. You know, she was really successful as an actress, so she probably had the money and a lot of 'em, 'cause she was dating some guys that looked suspiciously homosexual.

Redban 8:31 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 8:31 You know, like Liberace homosexual. Like, wait, what? Like ... Yeah.

Redban 8:36 She got paid $1 million to play K- Cleopatra in 1963.

Joe Rogan 8:41 Yeah, $1 million in 1963 is probably like $20 million today.

Redban 8:46 Sh-

Joe Rogan 8:46 What is m- Google that. What is $1 million in 1963 worth today? That's crazy they paid her that much money. Damn, who, whoever her agent is, dig that motherfucker up. (laughs)

Redban 8:59 (laughs) This is what dollartimes.com says it's worth, $8.1 million.

Joe Rogan 9:04 Eight?

Redban 9:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:05 That's it?

Redban 9:05 So, yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:06 Wow, I thought it would be like $20.

Redban 9:08 Annual inflation over this period was 3.88%.

Joe Rogan 9:12 That's, um, when you think of like, like who's the top-paid female today, is it Jennifer Lawrence maybe?

Redban 9:18 Probably, yeah. Close.

Joe Rogan 9:19 Yeah. What does she get? She probably gets like $20 right?

Redban 9:22 Somewhere in that $15 to $20 range probably, yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:24 So, she shits on Elizabeth Taylor.

Guest 9:26 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 9:26 Fucking Hunger Games bitch!

Redban 9:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:28 What?

Redban 9:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:30 Yeah. But, anyway, um, she married a bunch of gay guys, I think. See if you find out Elizabeth Taylor married gay guys, 'cause that was like always the stand-up comedy joke, that, uh, when I was first starting out, I remember a bunch of guys had jokes about Elizabeth Taylor, about ... I remember a chick had a joke about it too, about Elizabeth Taylor always marrying gay guys. Like, not knowing, like, that she's so old and fucked up on pills, she doesn't know the guy she's marrying are gay. (laughs)

Redban 9:57 Oh.

Guest 9:57 That's crazy. Wonder why she would do that? Because the-

Joe Rogan 10:01 Uh, she probably wanted companionship.

Guest 10:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:02 You know? She was, I think in the end, there was, uh, rumors of substance abuse, I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm prolif- periph- prolifery? Per- peripherally, peripherally, um, associated with these news stories. I don't really know 'em that well.

Guest 10:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:20 You know? I just remember reading something about substance abuse and drinking and, yeah. The end is always rough, man.

Guest 10:27 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 10:28 The end's rough for a lot of people, bro.

Guest 10:29 Yeah, those, those pain pills and everything gets you. (pills rattling) It's happening.

Joe Rogan 10:33 That's the roughest of the rough, man.

Guest 10:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:35 People who go out with those pain pill addictions. If you think about it, we were talking about, uh, Joey Diaz and I were talking yesterday about Prince. Um, you know, he was, uh, he called me up and he was singing to me. (laughs) He was singing me that song, "Do you want him? Or do you want me? 'Cause I want you." He's like, "Purple Rain, cocksucker. Joe, Joe Rogan, when was the last time you listened to Purple Rain?" He goes, "I'm stoned as a motherfucker right now listening to Purple Rain. Goddamn, Prince was good." And I was thinking about it, like, Prince was just one of the many greats that we lost to pain pills, just real recently. Tom Petty, Prince, um, who else? We, we lost several, several l- big name powerful celebrities to pain pills.

Guest 11:19 Michael Jackson.

Joe Rogan 11:20 No, he was propofol. He was, um, he wasn't pain pills, he was that shit that they, uh, used to put people under.

Guest 11:27 Yeah. But he was in, like, a lot of pain, right? Wasn't that one of his things?

Joe Rogan 11:31 I don't think so. I think he was just so fucked up in the head, so, so he had so much anxiety-

Guest 11:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:36 ... and he, uh, he just, he couldn't sleep.

Guest 11:39 Huh.

Joe Rogan 11:39 You know? He was just a mess, man.

Guest 11:41 Huh. Well-

Redban 11:42 There's rumors that he was addicted to pain pills.

Joe Rogan 11:45 Michael Jackson?

Redban 11:45 Yeah.

Guest 11:45 Oh.

Redban 11:46 He was with all the dancing and shit he did.

Joe Rogan 11:48 Yeah, and he- Yeah.

Redban 11:49 ... he was working, uh, to, uh, make that big comeback thing at the time, too. So, they had him out there dancing and shit-

Joe Rogan 11:54 Yeah.

Redban 11:54 ... looking like a bag of bones.

Joe Rogan 11:56 I'm pretty sure they said that the pro- propofol is what killed him, though.

Guest 11:59 Yeah.

Redban 11:59 'Cause he couldn't sleep also, yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:01 Yeah. You need to sleep and what that, what he was doing is just getting sedated every night. I mean, that's the reason his doctor went to jail.

Guest 12:08 He called it milk, right?

Joe Rogan 12:10 Mm-hmm.

Guest 12:10 "Can I have some more of the milk?"Oh, God.

Tony Hinchcliffe 12:12 I'm having a little trouble sleeping.

Redban 12:15 Oh, yeah, the-

Joe Rogan 12:15 Oh.

Redban 12:16 ... it sparked from that accident he got in, when he got on fire.

Joe Rogan 12:19 Oh, that's right.

Redban 12:20 He's just getting medication for-

Joe Rogan 12:20 He caught his hair on fire.

Redban 12:21 ... for the pain from that one.

Joe Rogan 12:23 Yeah. Well, that's- that's what happened to this guy that I know. He f- he hurt himself doing construction and then got on some pills, you know, because he had a back injury and they put him on pills and then (blows air) life is over.

Tony Hinchcliffe 12:35 That's all it takes is one accident. I've only taken a half of one pain pill one time and I know the exact day that it happened because it was the day that the WWE Network came out.

Joe Rogan 12:47 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 12:47 (laughs) I had my wisdom teeth pulled.

Guest 12:49 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 12:50 And they're like, "Take- take all these that you want." I'm like, "Ah, I don't really..." uh, you know, I'm very reactive to pills, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's not but I... So, but I was in a lot of pain, so I'm like, "Fuck it. I'll take a half of one." And man, if I didn't go through that whole network's library that day just with a smile on my face-

Joe Rogan 13:06 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 13:06 ... drooling on myself, loving life.

Guest 13:08 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 13:08 Just watching all the old stuff that I watched as a kid.

Joe Rogan 13:12 Wow.

Tony Hinchcliffe 13:13 So fun. But see, it was the day the network came out.

Joe Rogan 13:16 It would be nice if pain pills didn't do anything bad to you. They just fucked you up, but no physical harm.

Tony Hinchcliffe 13:24 No addiction.

Joe Rogan 13:25 That would be the good part.

Tony Hinchcliffe 13:26 No addiction, no addiction, no physical harm.

Joe Rogan 13:27 I mean, people are always gonna be add- people are addicted to washing their hands. I mean people-

Tony Hinchcliffe 13:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:31 ... are addicted to really weird shit. But there's- there's always gonna be people that are addicted to things in that they can't quit doing them, but addiction like in your bones.

Tony Hinchcliffe 13:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:41 Like those pain pills.

Tony Hinchcliffe 13:42 Well, they- they feel... It felt so good. I remember the feeling of just like, oh, this is the greatest feeling.

Joe Rogan 13:49 Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 13:49 I- I could do this all the time. This is incredible. It's- it's just such a- it's incomparable to even, like, you know, drink or pot or anything like that. It's just sit there and smile.

Joe Rogan 14:00 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 14:00 Just waves of heat.

Joe Rogan 14:03 I was real sick once and I got a hold of that real NyQuil. In the '90s is the last time I took it. The real NyQuil, that stuff that... I guess it was codeine. Was it codeine that was in there?

Tony Hinchcliffe 14:13 Yeah, something like that, right?

Joe Rogan 14:14 Whoo.

Tony Hinchcliffe 14:14 It's the, uh, s- syrup.

Joe Rogan 14:15 It was wonderful. It was wonderful. I was just- I was, uh, just... My pillow and my blanket were just cuddling me with love, and I was just lying in bed with a stupid smile on my face watching TV just like, ah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 14:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 14:29 I'm so happy.

Tony Hinchcliffe 14:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:31 Ah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 14:31 They don't make that NyQuil like they used to.

Joe Rogan 14:34 You gotta get it from a doctor, shady doctor.

Redban 14:35 Pseudoephedrine is what it was called.

Joe Rogan 14:37 That's what it is?

Redban 14:37 Yeah, nasal decongestant. Right? The thing... I mean, it says it what was taken out of it.

Joe Rogan 14:42 Hmm.

Redban 14:42 So...

Joe Rogan 14:43 Why did I think it w-... Is it like codeine? Is it a codeine... We've done this before, right?

Redban 14:46 Yeah, we've looked into it, yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:46 We've talked about this before.

Redban 14:47 I saw there's a- a THC liquid something or other being sold like in 1200 milligram, but it's sold in like a bottle that looks just like the propofol.

Joe Rogan 14:55 Oh, Jesus.

Redban 14:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:56 Somebody tried-

Redban 14:57 Our activists or something.

Joe Rogan 14:57 Somebody tried to give me some, um, marijuana beer.

Tony Hinchcliffe 15:01 Mm-mm.

Joe Rogan 15:01 Yeah. THC infused beer. I'm like, "You get that shit the fuck away from me."

Tony Hinchcliffe 15:05 (laughs)

Redban 15:05 They're making CBD infused beer soon. Like, I think Budwe- Coors or Budweiser, someone invested a-

Joe Rogan 15:10 Really?

Redban 15:10 ... shit load of money into it in Canada or MGD.

Joe Rogan 15:13 Wow.

Redban 15:13 Molson or Malibego.

Joe Rogan 15:15 Wow, that's interesting. Well, it would counteract the effects of alcohol in somewhat because one of the things about alcohol, right, is that it causes inflammation. CBD perhaps could counteract the inflammation.

Redban 15:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:28 What am I, a scientist?

Tony Hinchcliffe 15:29 I don't mess around with any of that THC infused stuff. I like-

Joe Rogan 15:32 No.

Tony Hinchcliffe 15:32 ... I like the CBD, but THC, when it comes to anything other than smoking it, I do not play.

Joe Rogan 15:38 You know what I like, pal? I like these.

Tony Hinchcliffe 15:40 Yep.

Joe Rogan 15:40 I like joints that are wrapped in- in tobacco.

Tony Hinchcliffe 15:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:44 These Backwoods jammies, these are my favorite.

Tony Hinchcliffe 15:47 Those are perfect.

Joe Rogan 15:47 Because they give you like a little bit of elevation, you get a little bit from the- from the cigarette, the nicotine, the tobacco, and then you get the weed. Whoa!

Tony Hinchcliffe 15:56 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 15:56 It's a combo.

Redban 15:57 Corona Modelo.

Joe Rogan 15:59 Mm, Corona Modelo was the first to take the plunge, investing hundreds of millions of dollars into a Canadian outfit in order to bring THC infused brews to market in Northern Nation. Now, Molson Coors, the second-largest brewer in the world, is reportedly getting into the game. The game. Yeah, that's what's gonna be interesting is when like Smirnoff starts investing in marijuana, you know, 'cause they're going to. It's g-... It's, uh, 100% legal in Canada now. Canada is just- it's just like buying a beer.

Tony Hinchcliffe 16:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:29 It's thank God, Canada. You've-

Tony Hinchcliffe 16:32 And you-

Joe Rogan 16:32 ... you bad motherfuckers up there.

Tony Hinchcliffe 16:33 And you can travel in Canada and fly with it.

Joe Rogan 16:36 Yeah. Well, I love you can fly out of LAX with weed now.

Tony Hinchcliffe 16:38 Heck yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:39 Yeah. They say whatever happens when you get there is on you.

Tony Hinchcliffe 16:42 Right. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:43 Did you see the thing that they have in Vegas? They have dispensary like, uh, or dispensers for marijuana like at the airport?

Redban 16:50 Uh-uh.

Joe Rogan 16:51 And then people are breaking into them and they're stealing weed out of them.

Tony Hinchcliffe 16:54 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:54 Like, "Give me that weed." (laughs) And they say... They're not free weed boxes, you assholes. Was it crossing international borders with cannabis is illegal?

Redban 17:02 It's at the airport there.

Joe Rogan 17:03 Yeah, but does that mean going back?

Redban 17:06 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:06 Or landing?

Redban 17:08 E- either.

Joe Rogan 17:08 I don't think you can bring it in or take it out, but they're saying like- Oh.

Redban 17:11 ... if you're at the airport, just make sure you're staying here.

Joe Rogan 17:13 Isn't that interesting? Like, you can't even bring it in even though it's legal there.

Tony Hinchcliffe 17:18 Yeah. That's weird.

Joe Rogan 17:19 Wow, that's fucking...

Redban 17:20 There's the boxes. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:21 Yeah, there's the box. "Disposal for prescription-"

Redban 17:23 That's that cannabis product.

Joe Rogan 17:23 "... and recreational drug." Is that in Canada?

Redban 17:25 This one's in Canada, but yet they have them in Denver also.

Joe Rogan 17:27 I have the exact... I have photo of the exact same thing-

Redban 17:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:30 ... from Vegas. I took a picture of it.

Redban 17:32 There's a company that's supposed to come around and like pick the shit up and-

Joe Rogan 17:35 Or-

Redban 17:35 ... dispose of it. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:36 ... you get your little skinny arm in there.

Tony Hinchcliffe 17:38 Oh my God, that is so funny. It's a disposal. All the times that last second, I'm just throwing joint tubes into the- into the- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 17:45 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 17:45 ... into the trash can. Like, who would actually go up to that thing-

Joe Rogan 17:49 Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 17:49 ... and throw it in there? No one. Let me- let me-

Joe Rogan 17:51 I remember-

Tony Hinchcliffe 17:51 ... let me tell you-

Redban 17:52 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 17:52 ... being super fucked up. Look, pot only. (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 17:57 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 17:57 Toronto Air Cannabis anis- uh, amnesty cans. That's hilarious.

Tony Hinchcliffe 18:01 There's just some guy laying on the ground with his mouth open at the bottom-

Redban 18:06 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:06 ... of that.

Tony Hinchcliffe 18:06 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:06 Oh my God, did you ever hear the story about a girl who was... uh, she went into a porta potty, and she- she thought she saw something-

Redban 18:12 Oh, no.

Joe Rogan 18:13 ... like when she was sitting down, and then she realized... Like, she heard like groans. She realized there was some guy in there inside the porta potty just laying there watching the shit come out and hitting him in the head.

Tony Hinchcliffe 18:25 (groans)

Joe Rogan 18:25 He's like, (groans) with his mouth open while she's shitting and pissing on him.

Tony Hinchcliffe 18:30 Oh my God.

Joe Rogan 18:30 He had climbed in to the shit and piss.

Tony Hinchcliffe 18:34 That is so disgusting and hot at the same time-

Redban 18:36 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 18:36 ... for some reason.

Joe Rogan 18:38 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 18:38 ... the fact that a monster-

Guest 18:40 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 18:40 ... would lay there like that.

Joe Rogan 18:42 He's probably had a fucking snorkel. Porta Potty Peeper, Luke Christo, suing Boulder for $99,999 or equal amount of gold coinage. (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 18:57 (laughs)

Guest 18:57 Oh, my God.

Joe Rogan 18:57 He's from Boulder, Colorado. He's suing Boulder? Or, or he's ... So it happened in Bu- in Boulder?

Redban 19:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:05 Yeah. Boulder's a trippy place, man. People have been getting really high in Boulder for a long time.

Tony Hinchcliffe 19:09 Oh.

Joe Rogan 19:09 And there's no air up there so if you get super baked in Boulder, like, you ... You could blow a fuse.

Tony Hinchcliffe 19:15 Look at that porta potty. It's, like, built for that. It looks like it's, like, a float tank-

Joe Rogan 19:19 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 19:19 ... with a toilet on top. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:22 It's, like, a little ... You know what it's like? It's like one of those first class seats you get when you fly to f- of Australia. (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 19:28 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:29 You know?

Tony Hinchcliffe 19:29 A little pod.

Joe Rogan 19:30 Get a pod. (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 19:31 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:31 It says ... It's f- what?

Redban 19:33 Yeah. Uh, it's just getting weird. I don't know.

Joe Rogan 19:35 Hold on. Christo has made his mark on the internet under a variety of monikers, including Omni Rainbow and Sky Orion, whose YouTube channel features clips including this one, in which he demonstrates his thigh-rubbing technique.

Redban 19:51 That video's not there for some reason.

Joe Rogan 19:53 Yeah.

Redban 19:53 It's just-

Joe Rogan 19:53 I wonder why.

Redban 19:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:54 It's been pulled from the internet.

Tony Hinchcliffe 19:55 Is it? Whoa.

Joe Rogan 19:56 Look at him.

Redban 19:57 That's actually super creepy.

Joe Rogan 19:58 So this is the guy.

Redban 19:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:58 So he was ... He climbed in there to have people shit on him.

Redban 20:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:02 And how did he know that there was a girl? His reward for such patience was a sight of a slender, black-haired white man. What?

Redban 20:11 I don't know. It's ...

Joe Rogan 20:12 Wait a minute. Don't scroll. Where you going?

Redban 20:14 I didn't know what the hell they were talking about before that.

Joe Rogan 20:15 But I'm reading that. Go back. "A slender, sw- black-haired white man standing between 6'5" and 6'8" tall, with cuts on his back and arms, wearing only a pair of sweatpants." Oh, what is this about? Oh, so this is the security guard realized that he was doing something. Scroll back up-

Redban 20:33 That's what I was-

Joe Rogan 20:33 ... so he gets to that.

Redban 20:34 ... trying to figure out what the hell they were talking about.

Tony Hinchcliffe 20:35 Imagine, like, waiting there under the toilet in the porta potty for a hot chick to come in, and just, like-

Joe Rogan 20:40 Ugh.

Tony Hinchcliffe 20:40 ... Joey Diaz comes in, like, "Oh, I'm excited about this." (laughs)

Redban 20:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 20:44 "Oh, I've been eating Cuban sandwiches all week."

Tony Hinchcliffe 20:46 There you go.

Joe Rogan 20:46 June 2011, we noted that a woman attended the Haman Festival, stepped into a portable lavatory. In when she lifted the toilet's lid, she saw something moving in the deep, dark depths below.

Redban 20:58 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 20:58 Cue shock, horror, and quick escape when she fetched a man and asked him to look inside. He, too, saw some movement beneath a tarp inside the tank.

Redban 21:08 Bleh.

Joe Rogan 21:08 And after exiting the chamber, he heard the door lock behind them.

Tony Hinchcliffe 21:11 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 21:12 At that point, he summoned the security ... Okay, that's what happened, and then they caught that guy.

Redban 21:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:17 So he's in there with a tarp, hiding under a tarp while people are shitting on him. Look at his face. Is that the mugshot? Is there shit all over him?

Tony Hinchcliffe 21:26 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 21:26 Oh, God. You son of a bitch.

Tony Hinchcliffe 21:29 Oh, man. It's like the It clown meets the Shit clown.

Joe Rogan 21:33 Oh, look at this. He sat down with Fox 31 for a jailhouse interview in which he referred to spying on urinating or defecating women, in quotes, "the highest creature in the universe." he maintained, as, in quotes, "praising God," and said, in quotes, "It sounds kind of weird, but I would just find my peace and go away, say, 'Thank you, Goddess,' and go about my night."

Redban 22:00 Mm.

Tony Hinchcliffe 22:01 Wow. Isn't that the scariest part? When you, when you drop a deuce in the toilet and you hear the words, "Thank you, Goddess," (laughs) coming from the toilet?

Joe Rogan 22:07 Thank you, Goddess, for your offerings.

Tony Hinchcliffe 22:09 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 22:10 Just t-

Redban 22:10 He hit other people's in other places around Boulder also. Number of restaurants.

Joe Rogan 22:14 Jus- ... Just to know that someone like that is a real person, like, you have to realize we ... Sometimes you have to see someone like that to go, "Okay, I don't know everybody."

Tony Hinchcliffe 22:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:24 There's a, there's a, there's a l- a long range, you know, if there's a chart of, like, "fucked up" to, like, "totally normal" ... (laughs)

Redban 22:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:34 ... there's a lot of variables in there, and there's a lot of people that just don't fit into your ideal-

Tony Hinchcliffe 22:40 Who knows? We may know people that are into that type of thing. We should set up, like, a trap.

Joe Rogan 22:44 Did you say Earl Skakel?

Tony Hinchcliffe 22:45 What?

Joe Rogan 22:46 What did you say? (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 22:47 (laughs) No. No, I said we might know people-

Joe Rogan 22:49 Why did you say Earl?

Tony Hinchcliffe 22:50 (laughs) What?

Joe Rogan 22:53 (laughs)

Redban 22:53 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 22:53 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 22:54 Jeff Ross?

Tony Hinchcliffe 22:55 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 22:55 Did you say Jeff Ross? You son of a bitch.

Tony Hinchcliffe 22:58 We should put-

Joe Rogan 22:59 Listen, don't do that off camera and expect me to keep secrets.

Tony Hinchcliffe 23:02 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:03 (sighs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 23:04 We should put, uh, one of those-

Joe Rogan 23:05 Jeremiah Watkins does what?

Tony Hinchcliffe 23:06 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:07 (laughs)

Redban 23:11 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 23:11 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 23:12 Just kidding, folks. Just ... We like ... We love those guys. Just jokes. Just jokes.

Redban 23:17 Ah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 23:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:20 Do you think we do? You think we know anybody who likes to get shit on?

Tony Hinchcliffe 23:22 I-

Joe Rogan 23:22 Well, well, Jim Norton.

Tony Hinchcliffe 23:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:24 Jim Norton'll tell you about it.

Tony Hinchcliffe 23:25 I think we ... We should put one behind the comedy store and see if anyone starts to, like, look it up and down, and-

Joe Rogan 23:30 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 23:30 ... lay down in it.

Joe Rogan 23:31 Start drooling.

Tony Hinchcliffe 23:31 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:34 (laughs) You know, they had this test they did with, uh, with men, where they took men that were ... Now, before we get any further, I don't know who conducted these tests, but Jamie could probably find it. Well, they, um, they conducted tests where they put devices on penises. Who talked about this? Was it Christopher Ryan may have talked about this? It may be our friend Chris Ryan who talked about this. They put, um, sensors on penises and they showed homophobic men, uh, erotica, and homosexual erotica in particular, like guys getting their dick sucked by guys, and they got aroused-

Tony Hinchcliffe 24:08 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 24:09 ... by it. They put, like, these things on it. So that's what we would need to do. We'd need to, like ...

Tony Hinchcliffe 24:14 Oh, that'd be the-

Joe Rogan 24:15 Homophobic men are aroused by gay male porn. Here it is. Homophobia is associated with sexual excitement by male-on-male sex. (gasps)

Tony Hinchcliffe 24:23 Oh, that's-

Joe Rogan 24:26 That's one study ............................

Redban 24:27 This is the greatest reality show ever in the making right now.

Joe Rogan 24:29 I know, right?

Tony Hinchcliffe 24:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:30 One study asked heterosexual men how comfortable and anxious they are around gay men. Based on these scores, they then divided these men into two groups, men that are homophobic and men that are not. These men were then shown three four-minute videos. That's a long time to be sitting there watching a dude suck a dick. One video depicted straight sex, one debig- ... Depicted lesbian sex, and one depicted gay male sex.... while this was happening, a device was attached to each participant's penis. This device has been f- found to be triggered by sexual arousal, but not by other types of arousal, such as nervousness or fear. Arousal often has a very different meaning in psychology than improper usage. Hmm.

Tony Hinchcliffe 25:15 I wonder what the device looks like. It's just some dude's mouth.

Joe Rogan 25:18 Yeah, it's a dude's mouth.

Tony Hinchcliffe 25:19 (laughs)

Redban 25:20 I'm pretty sure this was a, uh, Japanese game show experiment of some dude.

Tony Hinchcliffe 25:23 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:24 Was it?

Redban 25:24 They had a guy get blown by another dude and he had to last a certain amount of time.

Tony Hinchcliffe 25:28 Oh, I did hear about that.

Redban 25:29 And they kept him under a-

Joe Rogan 25:30 Yeah.

Redban 25:30 ... like ƒostol.

Joe Rogan 25:31 Wait a minute. He had to last without coming?

Redban 25:33 He had to go, like, four or five minutes or something like that.

Joe Rogan 25:34 Without blowing a load?

Redban 25:35 And he, like, he'd win a bunch of money.

Joe Rogan 25:36 And if a guy was sucking his dick.

Redban 25:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:38 D- people don't r- realize that Japanese ... M- before Fear Factor, Japanese game shows were on another level. They were doing some fucking insane shit on Japanese TV. That was one of the... Some of the early YouTube clips we used to watch was Japanese game shows.

Tony Hinchcliffe 25:56 Those guys are way ... Th- they're always ahead of it. Ninja Warrior.

Joe Rogan 26:00 Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 26:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:01 Right. Was that a Japanese show first?

Redban 26:03 Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 26:03 I think so. Ninjas and stuff. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:05 Was it?

Redban 26:05 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 26:05 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:05 Should be.

Redban 26:06 And then they first started ... Like, that's how it got onto the way it is, because, uh, G4 had a contest for, like, the first American to go over and do it. And that just sort of snowballed from there.

Joe Rogan 26:16 And then they had that show (coughs) that was kind of a version of it for America called Wipeout, right? Remember that? 'Cause that was the same people that produced Fear Factor, produced Wipeout.

Redban 26:26 And they had mXC, where they would, like, d- auto-dub 'em or do the voice dubs. And it would seem a little funny, but they'd be like, "The waiters versus the service staff," and it'd be almost a big joke. You remember what I'm talking about?

Joe Rogan 26:37 No.

Redban 26:37 It was called mXC, like Ma- ... I don't remember the full name.

Joe Rogan 26:39 Do you know?

Tony Hinchcliffe 26:39 Mm-mm.

Redban 26:40 I'll pull up a video after the show.

Tony Hinchcliffe 26:42 mXC.

Joe Rogan 26:43 Hmm. So anyway, (clears throat) we put these sensors on Earl Skakel's dick-

Tony Hinchcliffe 26:50 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:50 ... and, uh, have someone take a shit in front of it, no. (laughs)

Redban 26:54 This is it. This ...

Joe Rogan 26:54 Earl's like, "What the fuck?"

Tony Hinchcliffe 26:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:56 "What did I do, guys? Nothing." "Earl, we're sorry. We're just joking around. Oh, that girl got hit in the head." Now-

Redban 27:00 People get-

Joe Rogan 27:00 Now, here's the thing.

Tony Hinchcliffe 27:01 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 27:02 I can't help but thinking that that lady's running through shit now after we talked about it. I don't think ... I don't see that as mud.

Redban 27:08 It's just a silly Japanese show. But here's the, uh, the other one I was telling you about. This is only c- ... I can only find it on LiveLeak, but it is-

Tony Hinchcliffe 27:15 Gay versus straight blowjob challenge.

Redban 27:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:17 Oh, my God. So who's the gay guy?

Redban 27:20 Uh, this, uh-

Tony Hinchcliffe 27:21 (coughs)

Redban 27:21 ... big guy, I believe.

Joe Rogan 27:22 The big guy's gay.

Redban 27:23 Yep.

Joe Rogan 27:25 And this straight guy ... Wow. This-

Tony Hinchcliffe 27:27 Pants.

Joe Rogan 27:27 And the gay guy says, "Those pants are hot." And so this guy has to stand there, see if we can get Takuya ... Oh, my God. He just sucks-

Tony Hinchcliffe 27:36 Oh my god. (laughs)

Redban 27:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 27:36 Of course, if he doesn't get hard ... See, he might not get hard like this. What does the expression mean? Oh, my God.

Tony Hinchcliffe 27:44 Welcome to another episode of Win-Win. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 27:46 Lookit him. Lookit him. (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 27:47 (laughs) Either, either you win money or you cum.

Joe Rogan 27:49 The sound of a high-speed vacuum.

Tony Hinchcliffe 27:51 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 27:51 Puts his hand in his mouth, his expression has changed dramatically.

Redban 27:54 And his fanny pack full of ƒani packs.

Tony Hinchcliffe 27:55 Oh, my God.

Joe Rogan 27:56 Wow. Mm-hmm. It's always those fat guys that really suck the best dicks, I bet.

Tony Hinchcliffe 28:00 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:01 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 28:02 I love that you throw "I bet" at the end of that. Like- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:04 That's a comment. I don't ... Yeah, say, "I bet."

Tony Hinchcliffe 28:06 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:06 I would imagine. 'Cause it's like a common ... What? This guy took his shirt off. What happened there?

Tony Hinchcliffe 28:11 Oh.

Joe Rogan 28:12 Oh.

Tony Hinchcliffe 28:13 Jesus.

Redban 28:13 He shot. He shot.

Joe Rogan 28:14 Oh.

Redban 28:15 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:15 "Thank you, I enjoyed that," he says. Oh, my God. So that poor guy-

Redban 28:20 Seems like we have a winner.

Tony Hinchcliffe 28:22 Oh.

Joe Rogan 28:22 That poor guy just nutted in that dude's mouth.

Tony Hinchcliffe 28:25 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:25 He says, "That's frustrating. A lot came out, didn't it?" he says.

Redban 28:28 My God.

Joe Rogan 28:29 "It's so frustrating, though." "Yeah, but a lot came out." So (laughs) the guy's telling him ... The guy's like, "Dude, you, you enjoyed that. You came really hard." He goes, "I- ... It was very frustrating." He's like, "Yeah, but a lot came out."

Tony Hinchcliffe 28:39 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:39 Like, "You, you came hard." "Yeah, yeah, yeah, but frustrating."

Tony Hinchcliffe 28:42 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:42 "Don't like." "No, but you liked it at the time 'cause a lot came out. Like, it only comes out if it feels good."

Tony Hinchcliffe 28:48 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:49 That is ... They're evil. That's fucking with a person's mind, you know?

Tony Hinchcliffe 28:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:55 You, you ... That guy has to think about that shit for the rest of his life.

Tony Hinchcliffe 28:57 Oh, he's probably gay now. He's probably on the other side of the game show sucking the dicks.

Joe Rogan 29:02 The reason why I would imagine fat guys suck dick better is 'cause it involves food and, and gay sex at the same time. It's a combination of things. Like, fat people probably like things in their mouth, and then on top of that, gay sex.

Tony Hinchcliffe 29:13 And Asian as well. Kobayashi is the hotdog-eating champion.

Joe Rogan 29:19 Oh, I thought you were gonna go with the little dick.

Tony Hinchcliffe 29:21 Uh, well, oh, that too.

Joe Rogan 29:23 'Cause you get all of it.

Tony Hinchcliffe 29:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:23 Get the whole thing.

Tony Hinchcliffe 29:24 That too.

Joe Rogan 29:25 You're not choking.

Tony Hinchcliffe 29:26 Yeah. You could deep throat it.

Joe Rogan 29:27 You can re- you can really go to town.

Tony Hinchcliffe 29:28 And it might not even make it to your throat, just deep mouth it.

Joe Rogan 29:31 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 29:32 It's not even-

Joe Rogan 29:32 Deep lip it.

Tony Hinchcliffe 29:32 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 29:33 I don't know. Th- that's a terrible stereotype and I'm really embarrassed that you brought that up on this show.

Tony Hinchcliffe 29:38 Yes.

Joe Rogan 29:38 How dare you?

Tony Hinchcliffe 29:39 Indeed.

Joe Rogan 29:40 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 29:40 And if anybody knows things about stereotypes, it's Asians.

Joe Rogan 29:43 Yeah. And Megyn Kelly.

Tony Hinchcliffe 29:47 That was an Asian stereo.

Joe Rogan 29:50 Oh, yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 29:50 Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan 29:51 I get it, like Samsung.

Tony Hinchcliffe 29:52 Yeah, exactly.

Joe Rogan 29:53 Yeah, I get it. Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 29:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:55 Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 29:55 Megyn Kelly, that's a crazy one.

Joe Rogan 29:57 That's a crazy one.

Tony Hinchcliffe 29:58 Because she said ... W- di- and I never really got it all the way. She said that back in her day, people used to be Black for Halloween.

Joe Rogan 30:06 She said, "Why can't you dress up as, like, Diana Ross?"

Tony Hinchcliffe 30:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:10 Like, uh, she essentially said, "What's wrong with wearing blackface?" She's like, "Why is it bad for a b-" sh- she threw one in that's not even really bad-

Tony Hinchcliffe 30:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:18 ... as it ... Like, she started with, "Why is it bad for a Black person to dress up as a white person or a white person dress up as a Black person?" Well, it's not. Nobody says it's bad for a Black person to dress up as a white person. Dave Chappelle did it on his TV show forever.

Tony Hinchcliffe 30:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:32 Remember?

Tony Hinchcliffe 30:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:33 He would do that?

Tony Hinchcliffe 30:34 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:34 (clears throat) Nobody cared. It's bad because they used to have minstrel shows. Like, if ... She, she knew the history of it, like, you go to back and watch Al Jolson. Have you ever watched some of that stuff?

Tony Hinchcliffe 30:44 A little bit, but, I mean-

Joe Rogan 30:46 We should watch some of that.

Tony Hinchcliffe 30:47 Okay.

Joe Rogan 30:48 The Al Jolson stuff.

Redban 30:49 Uh, I don't think we can.

Joe Rogan 30:50 Really?

Redban 30:50 Yeah, I mean-

Joe Rogan 30:51 What would happen? We go to jail?

Redban 30:52 No, just-

Joe Rogan 30:53 PC police?

Redban 30:55 No, no.

Joe Rogan 30:55 YouTube?

Redban 30:55 No, no. Yeah, yeah, YouTube.

Tony Hinchcliffe 30:56 What about White Chicks? Remember White Chicks when the Wayans brothers, uh ...

Joe Rogan 31:00 Oh, yeah. They had that whole movie where they wore whiteface.

Tony Hinchcliffe 31:02 Huge movie.

Joe Rogan 31:03 Nobody cares.

Tony Hinchcliffe 31:04 Heavily promoted movie.

Joe Rogan 31:05 Funny movie.

Redban 31:06 No, but, like-

Joe Rogan 31:06 Yeah, you could, you could be white-... nobody cares. So sh- but her saying that was very disingenuous, it was just to cover her ass. So that's Al Jolson.

Redban 31:15 He's a jazz singer.

Joe Rogan 31:15 So what... The jazz singer? Al Jolson (clears throat) used to wear blackface-

Tony Hinchcliffe 31:20 Oh, no.

Joe Rogan 31:20 Yeah. And look at what he d- used to do with his lips. He used to, like, make his lips cartoonishly exaggerated and he would sing, but he was, like, an obviously a white man singing in blackface as a Black man. It's, uh, it's really weird to watch. And he would wear white gloves on.

Tony Hinchcliffe 31:38 Is it wrong that I feel weirder watching this than reading about the guy that was getting shit and pissed on?

Joe Rogan 31:44 Is it wrong that you came quicker than the guy getting his dick sucked by that guy? (laughs)

Redban 31:49 (laughs) Man.

Joe Rogan 31:52 Man, (slaps table) that's crazy.

Redban 31:55 Pretty sure that was the first movie with sound also, which is why it's significant.

Joe Rogan 31:58 Whoa! The first movie with sound was racist as fuck. (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 32:03 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:06 We gotta realize the first movie with sound was at probably 19-

Redban 32:10 27.

Joe Rogan 32:11 ... 27?

Redban 32:11 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 32:12 Okay. So that is... What is that, 60 years after slavery?

Redban 32:19 Aht, th- That's after it was abolished, but it wasn't even really done when it was abolished. So, yeah. But...

Joe Rogan 32:25 When was it done?

Redban 32:27 Arguably it isn't with jails, but, I mean, there was still s-

Joe Rogan 32:30 Oh, Jesus. J- Jamie went deeply.

Tony Hinchcliffe 32:32 Wow.

Redban 32:32 So I'm just saying, like-

Tony Hinchcliffe 32:33 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:33 Yes! (laughs)

Redban 32:33 Well, yeah, but it's like-

Tony Hinchcliffe 32:34 Okay. We're cool.

Joe Rogan 32:35 We're still... They weren't all, uh... But slaves weren't all immediately released.

Redban 32:38 Jamie's on Black Twitter, you gotta cut him some slack.

Joe Rogan 32:39 I'm just saying, but, like, slaves weren't all immediately released and once, once the, the law passed they didn't just say, "You're free."

Redban 32:44 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:44 That's a good point. But what I meant was, when, when it was abolished (laughs) .

Redban 32:47 I just, like, I don't know... I don't know the date you're looking for. Like, it's... It, it happened gradually over time, so...

Tony Hinchcliffe 32:53 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:53 Yeah. Because of the Civil War, right?

Redban 32:54 Right.

Joe Rogan 32:54 The Civil War ended in 1875, is that when it ended?

Redban 32:56 '65.

Joe Rogan 32:57 It ended in '65? But the resolution to abolish slavery was passed-

Redban 33:02 Yeah, the Emancipation Proclamation.

Joe Rogan 33:03 Is that what, '65?

Redban 33:04 '64, or it's... I don't know the exact date, I'll look it up.

Joe Rogan 33:07 And then, um, the Civil War ended just a couple years later, right?

Redban 33:11 Emancipation Proclamation, January 1st, 1863.

Joe Rogan 33:14 '63. And then the war ended 1865?

Redban 33:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:17 So that's not that long. Like, 60 years later they're doing, "May May! May May!" You ever heard it?

Tony Hinchcliffe 33:24 Uh-uh.

Joe Rogan 33:25 Oh, it's so weird. Let's say it's weird watching old movies, period.

Tony Hinchcliffe 33:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:30 They go... Like the 1920s and shit, it's like, it's so... I, I, I watch King Kong with my kids. I, uh, I had them watch the original King Kong.

Tony Hinchcliffe 33:39 Wow.

Joe Rogan 33:39 And they were like, "Are we gonna be scared?" This was a few years back, like when, um, one was six and one was four. Like, "We're nervous, we're scared." I go, "Don't be scared. Y- you know, it's not scary. Just trust me, you're gonna think it's funny." They were laughing.

Tony Hinchcliffe 33:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:54 They thought it was so funny. It looks so bad, it looked so corny.

Tony Hinchcliffe 33:58 Right.

Joe Rogan 33:59 We're just cuddled up on the couch watching King Kong. It looked so corny, like the claymation, they're going... (growling)

Tony Hinchcliffe 34:06 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:08 It's just weird that back then that was a horror movie. Like, people would go to the movie like, "That was terrifying." "Yes, it was. I'm gonna go get a sandwich."

Tony Hinchcliffe 34:16 My goodness.

Joe Rogan 34:17 "I'm gonna go get a coffee for a penny."

Tony Hinchcliffe 34:19 I saw the new Halloween movie the other day.

Joe Rogan 34:21 How was that?

Tony Hinchcliffe 34:22 It was awesome.

Joe Rogan 34:23 Really?

Tony Hinchcliffe 34:23 They actually did it. They made a great movie, a great reboot.

Joe Rogan 34:28 Really?

Tony Hinchcliffe 34:28 It was awesome. If you've ever enjoyed any moment or know anything about Michael Myers at all, it's unbelievable.

Joe Rogan 34:35 Wow.

Tony Hinchcliffe 34:36 Really great. It's, like, modern day, they make Jamie Lee Curtis a badass. Like, she's like, she's her age, it's bothered her her whole life. Every, all anyone wants to talk with her about is that, so she-

Joe Rogan 34:47 So she, like, lifted weights and shit?

Tony Hinchcliffe 34:48 She hol- she holes herself up in this big... She builds a compound with fences and everything in case he ever f- fucking comes back.

Joe Rogan 34:57 Whoa.

Tony Hinchcliffe 34:57 And she teaches herself how to shoot. Like, it's, like, real awesome, dude.

Joe Rogan 35:02 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 35:02 You'd fucking love it. I couldn't believe it. The rest of the night I was saying to my wife just, just, "I can't believe how great that movie was." And she loved it too, so it's, like, all around awesome.

Joe Rogan 35:12 Wow. What does Rotten Tomatoes say about it?

Redban 35:14 New one? It's rotten.

Joe Rogan 35:15 Does Rotten Tomatoes-

Tony Hinchcliffe 35:15 Well, those, those people are all crazy.

Joe Rogan 35:17 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 35:17 I don't listen to any, but, any of these people's opinions.

Joe Rogan 35:20 I went to a, uh, Yelp review the other day.

Tony Hinchcliffe 35:23 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 35:23 'Cause, uh, there's this restaurant that I really like that's near my house. And I said, "I wonder w- how it gets reviewed on Yelp," and it was, like, all five stars except one. One one-star. And it was, like, a crazy review where some woman was... She was yelling, she was complaining that tips, uh, that if you tip on a credit card that they don't get it until the end of the week and then it gets taxed. Like, is that how it always works?

Redban 35:49 Mm...

Joe Rogan 35:50 Or do you get it at night? Do they cash you out?

Redban 35:52 Depends on the restaurant.

Joe Rogan 35:53 Depends on the restaurant. But I, I felt like that was probably common that some restaurants will give you, with your weekly check, all of your tips for the week.

Redban 36:02 That's not typical.

Joe Rogan 36:03 It's not typical.

Tony Hinchcliffe 36:04 Yeah, that would be if, like, they're pooling, perhaps, all the tips of the week together and splitting it amongst everybody, which a... only a really, really, really good restaurant would do.

Joe Rogan 36:14 Oh, that seems (clears throat) , that seems like it doesn't encourage performance though, right?

Tony Hinchcliffe 36:19 Well, that... At that level of restaurants the performance is, like, a given.

Joe Rogan 36:24 Right.

Tony Hinchcliffe 36:24 Like, they're probably splitting vast sums of money 'cause it's a full-blown machine.

Joe Rogan 36:28 Right, like a five-star restaurant.

Tony Hinchcliffe 36:29 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 36:30 Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 36:31 I worked at Ruth's Chris Steak House, uh, coming out of high school and I learned pretty much, you know, everything there is to know. They make you memorize a stack of cards, you have to know everything, and the whole thing's a well-oiled machine. I was a food runner, which basically means that I had to make sure that everything going to the tables was perfectly set up. Like, you, d- 'cause there's no fixing it once it leaves the door, right? So you're basically the final approver of everything. And the server's just waiting at the table, or follows behind you. You sit the tray down and they do it, and you get 10% of all the server's tips. ... on the floor. So sometimes, some nights, if there's, you know, uh, say, more than 10:1 food runner ... or, uh, servers to food runners, you can make more than even a server at a Ruth's Chris Steak House. And ... But each restaurant does it differently and splits tips. Maybe they pool them that night. Pooling the tips actually usually means that the service is gonna be-

Joe Rogan 37:25 (coughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 37:25 ... unbelievable, unless it's just a janky restaurant. Then they, they, then they probably just do it normally.

Joe Rogan 37:31 Well, this restaurant's a very nice restaurant.

Tony Hinchcliffe 37:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:32 So anyway, I looked at this lady's, uh, one-star review, like one star out of five stars. And I always have a big smile on my face when I see a one-star review 'cause that means this bitch gonna have a lot of one-star reviews if you go to her page. (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 37:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:45 So I went to her page. It was all one-star reviews.

Tony Hinchcliffe 37:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:49 This fucking malcontent.

Tony Hinchcliffe 37:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:50 This monster that was just going everywhere and complaining about everything, from fucking nail salons to movie theaters, like everything.

Tony Hinchcliffe 37:57 It's, it's crazy. I don't think trolls know that anybody is just one click away from knowing ... from them being completely exposed.

Joe Rogan 38:05 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 38:05 Like, it's the same thing, you know, on Twitter or really anything, right?

Joe Rogan 38:09 Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 38:10 You see someone says something crazy, you just click on their profile and it's-

Joe Rogan 38:14 All crazy.

Tony Hinchcliffe 38:14 All crazy all the time, to everybody.

Joe Rogan 38:17 Yeah. Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 38:18 They, they're complaining about everything.

Joe Rogan 38:20 After Roseanne was on, um, I got a bunch of people that tweeted at me with these wacky conspiracies, like wacky mind control conspiracies and ... What, what it seemed to me to be ... I'm not a professional, but if I had to guess, a wave of mentally ill people-

Tony Hinchcliffe 38:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:39 ... were contacting me. And I was, I was reading this, I'm like, "Jesus Christ, how many fucking people are out there that believe, like, the most nuttiest CIA-based mind control experiments and" (coughs) "NSA," you know, tapping into everything in your home and, and listening to your conversations by listening to the vibrations off of your windowpanes? Like, here's what people don't know. Who's got time for that? Here's the thing. Do you really think there's enough people in the world to be paying attention to all the people in the world? Does that make any sense to you? It shouldn't. There's no way everybody's watching everybody.

Tony Hinchcliffe 39:18 Right.

Joe Rogan 39:18 There's not enough people, see? Like, if you do something, like say Tony Hinchcliffe runs for president, oh, they're gonna fucking watch you, for sure. They're gonna find out what ... "Why is Tony Hinchcliffe running for president? Who's backing him? Is it George Soros who's looking out for Tony Hinchcliffe?" You know, "Who's trying to ... Who's for-" Yeah, they'll check you out. But the average person is like ... Remember that Mel Gibson movie, Conspiracy Theory?

Tony Hinchcliffe 39:41 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 39:41 Remember that? (coughs) He played a mentally ill person who fell in love with Julia Roberts.

Tony Hinchcliffe 39:47 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 39:47 He was, like, a hot mentally ill person and, uh, he just believed everything was a conspiracy theory. It's a r- I watched it the other day, like, outta nowhere. It was on TV. I just only watched it for a little bit and I was like, "Wow, how fucking whacky is this movie." But-

Tony Hinchcliffe 40:01 People that ha- have schizophrenia don't realize-

Joe Rogan 40:04 Mm-hmm.

Tony Hinchcliffe 40:04 ... that they're schizophrenic.

Joe Rogan 40:06 Exactly.

Tony Hinchcliffe 40:06 Like, people with bipolar notice. They're n- ... They might be aware that they're having an episode. People with OCD, they're OCD, ADD, ADD. Schizophrenia, it's game, set, match. You start hearing ... The voices become a normal thing.

Joe Rogan 40:21 Mm-hmm.

Tony Hinchcliffe 40:21 Like, you think everybody can hear them and you're not really acknowledging them because they've become so natural. The schizophrenic person can be in a, a psych ward and say to their doctor, "Why am I here?" And that's a breakthrough.

Joe Rogan 40:34 Yeah, yeah. Do you know Ma- Marc Maron heard voices in his head for over a year?

Tony Hinchcliffe 40:40 Oh, my goodness.

Joe Rogan 40:41 After partying with Kinison.

Tony Hinchcliffe 40:43 Wow.

Joe Rogan 40:44 That's a hard Kinison party.

Tony Hinchcliffe 40:46 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:46 We're pussies.

Tony Hinchcliffe 40:48 Man, we really are. I was talking to Argus the other day at the back door.

Joe Rogan 40:52 (coughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 40:53 (laughs) I was ... And it's just, like, my God, I literally said the words, like, I'm like, "I wish I was ... I wish I had started back when you started, man." (laughs) I was-

Joe Rogan 41:03 Really?

Tony Hinchcliffe 41:04 'Cause he was talking about we ended up getting off on this whole ... I don't know how we got there, but we started off on this whole tangent about, uh, about just, you know, sobriety and stuff. And he's like, "Man, you know, back in my day." And he was ... I can't remember the exact dialogue, but it was just ... Yeah, I mean, those guys were all ... It was all just a blur.

Joe Rogan 41:24 I learned something from Argus 'cause Ar-

Tony Hinchcliffe 41:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:26 You know, Argus runs, like, insane numbers of miles every day, like, 12 miles, 15 miles a day.

Tony Hinchcliffe 41:33 The addict in him, the guy that n- l- loved getting wasted, that's his high now. He talks about it all the time, his runner's high.

Joe Rogan 41:39 It's real, dude.

Tony Hinchcliffe 41:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:41 It's real. I, I know now because of this month.

Tony Hinchcliffe 41:44 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 41:44 This month, this Sober October month, dude, I worked out no less than at least two hours. That's a small workout, a small workout where that's all I could get in was two hours. The longest I did, I did six hours one day.

Tony Hinchcliffe 41:57 Good Lord.

Joe Rogan 41:58 Six hours of insane cardio.

Tony Hinchcliffe 42:00 That's, like, both Kill Bills, dude.

Joe Rogan 42:01 I did seven, I did seven hours of cardio in the last two days. Between yesterday and the day before, seven hours of hard cardio, different stuff, running the hills with the dog, elliptical machine, the rowing machine-

Tony Hinchcliffe 42:12 You know you're competing with fat people, right?

Joe Rogan 42:15 No, I'm competing with myself, so ... (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 42:17 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:17 First of all, my main competition is Ari Shaffir.

Tony Hinchcliffe 42:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:20 And whether you realize it or not, Ari Shaffir, even though he doesn't exercise, Ari has a strong mind.

Tony Hinchcliffe 42:26 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 42:26 He has a very strong mind. (coughs) Ari ran 15 miles the other day, 15 miles. He rode five kilometers. And then, after he rode five kilometers, he, um, he did something else. He rode his bike. He rode a bike for a certain amount of miles.

Redban 42:40 How long did it take him to run 15 miles?

Joe Rogan 42:42 The whole thing, his whole workout was, I think, four hours.

Tony Hinchcliffe 42:46 My goodness.

Joe Rogan 42:46 Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 42:46 He's got that power Jew gene. He's got that escape from concentration camp gene.

Joe Rogan 42:51 Dude, he's, he's ... You saw how fucking hard he was going on the rowing machine. He goes hard, dude. He stayed in the 80% on the rowing machine for an hour. I mean, he really did.

Tony Hinchcliffe 43:00 Phew.

Joe Rogan 43:01 I saw him. I was the- out there with him. I filmed it. I put it up on, uh, Instagram.

Redban 43:04 Well, that's that point I d- when Bert was making fun of him for being at s- 75 for just walking. Isn't that him being out of shape?

Joe Rogan 43:10 It's not, because when Bert and him went walking, he was in way better shape than Bert. See, Ari rides his bike in New York, and he walks a lot in New York. And even though he's not in great shape, like, in terms of, like, a guy who runs, in comparison to Bert-... he's in fantastic shape. When they went hiking together, Bert had to stop, like, a bunch of times, like, "We gotta stop, we gotta stop." And Ari was pissed off. He's like, "Why do I have to stop? 'Cause you're fat?" Like he used to yell at him. (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 43:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:35 So, like, he wanted to see what would happen if the two of them went out together and did the exact same hiking, whose... 'Cause Bert was saying, "Oh, this is because you're not in shape, so your, your heart is always at 80%." No. Ari, in a week, is in way better shape than Bert is in his whole life of working out and drinking vodka every night.

Tony Hinchcliffe 43:52 Yeah, compared to Bert.

Joe Rogan 43:53 But... Compared to Bert. But my point is, he was my real competition.

Tony Hinchcliffe 43:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:58 I was very, very much worried about him. So up until, uh, two days ago, everything seemed to be going good. I was working out really hard. And, uh, I was p- it was hard. It's hard to do three hours a day. It's three and a half hours a day s- m-... Two days in a row was three and a half hours a day. Um, but I started peeing, and it started coming out dark.

Tony Hinchcliffe 44:19 Oh, no.

Joe Rogan 44:20 Like iced tea.

Tony Hinchcliffe 44:21 Oh, shit, this sounds like a guy at a port-a-potty's dream.

Joe Rogan 44:25 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 44:26 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 44:26 "Oh, give me that sweet tea."

Tony Hinchcliffe 44:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 44:29 (laughs) ............................ "Oh, that sweet tea."

Tony Hinchcliffe 44:31 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 44:31 (sighs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 44:32 What did, what does he say at the end? "Oh, bless you, Goddess." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 44:35 Oh, bless you, Goddess-

Tony Hinchcliffe 44:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 44:36 ... for your sweet tea. I was famished. Um, yeah. Um, it didn't look good.

Tony Hinchcliffe 44:43 Oof.

Joe Rogan 44:43 (coughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 44:44 Man.

Joe Rogan 44:44 Today, I had to go to something at my kid's school, uh, some Halloween thing, and I had to go up, uh, three flights of stairs, three long f- flights of stairs. I got to the top... First of all, I barely made it up the stairs. I got to the top, I was out of breath and my legs were shaking.

Tony Hinchcliffe 45:00 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 45:00 Three flights of stairs. And I was like, "Okay, I might've fucked something up." (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 45:05 Oh, man. That was today?

Joe Rogan 45:07 That was today. (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 45:08 Geez.

Joe Rogan 45:08 That was today.

Tony Hinchcliffe 45:09 What does it mean?

Joe Rogan 45:11 Um, I think my body's breaking down.

Tony Hinchcliffe 45:14 Ah.

Joe Rogan 45:14 I think I've got, like, serious muscle breakdown, to the point, like, my muscles are so sore that I'm, I'm, I'm ignoring that they're sore. And even though they're really, really sore, I'm still doing, like, three hours of cardio. Like, I limped up to the, uh, to the trail when I ran with my dog yesterday. And then I ran two miles, and then after I ran two miles, I did an hour and a half on the elliptical machine. And then after I did an hour and a half on the elliptical machine, I did 45 minutes of kicking the bag, punching and kicking the bag.

Tony Hinchcliffe 45:44 I took two naps yesterday.

Joe Rogan 45:46 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 45:46 Two separate naps.

Joe Rogan 45:48 ... (laughs) My point is, Argus taught me something-

Tony Hinchcliffe 45:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:52 ... by telling me about this high that you get from all this cardio. And I was like, "What kind of fucking nonsense is that?" I knew that there's, like, an endorphin high, but I didn't, I didn't think it was really specific. But there's a very specific high that you get, and it's like, if you could take a pill that puts you in the state of mind that I am when I work out this much, everybody would take it, and the world would be a better place, 'cause you don't give a fuck.

Tony Hinchcliffe 46:15 Right.

Joe Rogan 46:16 You don't give a fuck about anything. I mean, not that you don't care about people and friends and loved ones, but there's no anxiety. There's no... All the chatter, all the negative chatter that you get in your brain that you have to, like, push off and ignore, (imitates fart) that sh- shuts off.

Tony Hinchcliffe 46:30 Right.

Joe Rogan 46:30 Gone, nonexistent. And I wonder how much of that is there because your, your brain is almost trying to create problems and conflict because you're not getting enough exercise.

Tony Hinchcliffe 46:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:42 'Cause your, your body's supposed to get a specific amount of exercise.

Tony Hinchcliffe 46:45 My dog is, uh, I think, like, eight months old or something now, and I've learned a lot from having this dog this time. Like, I didn't notice a lot of stuff with the other dogs that I've raised in the past bec- ... in the past, because with this one, it's very clear. And, I mean, they're all that way, but if you don't work it out and you don't take it and exercise it, she's crazy.

Joe Rogan 47:07 Oh, yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 47:07 She, she can be a nut, and she shows you by be- being weird, not necessarily destroying stuff, but, you know, just b- being weird, little things, by nibbling at your finger a different way with just her little front teeth, like, sort of, like, telling you something, like, "Hey, dude, I need to fucking get some exercise in." And we're all... That we're, we're... We are that same way. So our brain is gonna make more complex ways for us to be freaked out, basically run for our lives, right?

Joe Rogan 47:37 Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 47:37 Like, if I don't just... I mean, again, I barely do cardio, but I do do it pretty consistently, but it's short. It's, like, a mile or two.

Joe Rogan 47:46 That's all you need, really.

Tony Hinchcliffe 47:47 Yeah. But... And, and it cleanses the palate. It's like ginger between sushi slices. And, (inhales) and if I go without it, absolutely, it compiles.

Joe Rogan 47:57 Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 47:57 I'll wake up bitter and angry about something. I'll see something on, you know, somewhere or something or s- work-wise and stress out about it, and, like, "Why? Oh, this and that," and...

Joe Rogan 48:07 Stuff that doesn't make any sense at all.

Tony Hinchcliffe 48:08 Right.

Joe Rogan 48:09 Yeah. And if you're in a good state of mind, you'd be like, "Eh, who gives a fuck?"

Tony Hinchcliffe 48:12 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 48:13 But instead, you dwell on it.

Tony Hinchcliffe 48:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:14 So your brain's, like, trying to come up with problems.

Tony Hinchcliffe 48:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:17 'Cause-

Tony Hinchcliffe 48:17 It wants us to do something.

Joe Rogan 48:19 My dog Marshall is like that hardcore, 'cause Marshall's in shape, 'cause he runs miles with me all the time, so that dog's ready to go.

Tony Hinchcliffe 48:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:27 And so it's like, "We're running, right? We're running today?"

Tony Hinchcliffe 48:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:29 I'm like, "No, not today, dude, I gotta work." "What the fuck am I gonna do with myself?"

Tony Hinchcliffe 48:33 (laughs) Right.

Joe Rogan 48:33 He'll just start chewing socks-

Tony Hinchcliffe 48:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:35 ... and, you know, doing things that he's not supposed to do, you know.

Tony Hinchcliffe 48:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:38 He, he just... You know, he's just, you- a ball of energy, but at least he doesn't have, like, anxiety and negative chatter, the complex human mind, when it doesn't have enough energy output. I always think of the brain as almost like a battery that has a lid on it, and there's... Like, energy's, like, flowing out of the battery and spilling over the sides and causing a mess.

Tony Hinchcliffe 48:57 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 48:57 'Cause you gotta expand or expend a certain amount of energy every day in order to keep it clean, just to keep everything going well.

Tony Hinchcliffe 49:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:05 Dude, I feel fucking great, other than the fact that I can't walk good. (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 49:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:10 But it's just... I went too hard. It's just too hard. But I wanted to get so far ahead. My goal was to get so far ahead that no one could catch up. I was like, "If I could just..." They could do these big days every now and then. I go, "But it's hard to do a big day, and then do another big day, and then do another big day." That's what's hard. And, like, that's where I'll get them. I'll get them into, like, the, like... When, when you wake up, you're like, "Not today."... that's the day you gotta go.

Tony Hinchcliffe 49:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:36 Like, that's... Like, I wanted to put some distance between them. So what I did was, I did one day where I did six hours. I did five hours in the morning, and then I... A- actually, five and a half, then I did another hour at night. So it was basically six and a half hours, and I got 1,000 points for the day. And they were like, "What the f-" 1,035, actually. (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 49:56 Good God.

Joe Rogan 49:57 Ah!

Tony Hinchcliffe 49:58 Like, I guarantee you that when Maron was hearing those voices during that Kinison time, that he wasn't working out.

Joe Rogan 50:04 No. He doesn't work out now, I don't think.

Tony Hinchcliffe 50:05 Right? It's easy for a comedian to not work out, and then i- i- when you factor that in, that it's not a normal job, and you can go from your bed to your car to the venue, to sit down at a table, to wait till you go on stage. Then you do that, you stand up.

Joe Rogan 50:21 I don't think that had anything to do with it. I think it was cocaine.

Tony Hinchcliffe 50:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:24 They did so much cocaine, they were up for days.

Tony Hinchcliffe 50:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:27 That's what it was. He broke his brain.

Tony Hinchcliffe 50:29 And physically not doing anything, right.

Joe Rogan 50:31 That too, but I mean, I think the big factor was the cocaine. Doing cocaine with Kinison?

Tony Hinchcliffe 50:36 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 50:36 I think he just (snaps fingers) popped a fuse. (imitates explosion)

Tony Hinchcliffe 50:38 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:39 Can you imagine? Fucking up for days and days, and Kinison's like, "Where's the blow? Where's the blow? Oh! Oh!"

Tony Hinchcliffe 50:45 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:45 And you're like, "I'm only 22, man. I gotta get outta here."

Tony Hinchcliffe 50:48 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:48 "I have a future! I have a life."

Tony Hinchcliffe 50:49 Oh, man.

Joe Rogan 50:51 You know, he... Y- do you know that he, um, Kinison, and Roseanne have something really serious in common?

Tony Hinchcliffe 50:57 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 50:58 They were both hit by cars when they were very young, and their personality radically changed.

Tony Hinchcliffe 51:03 Wow.

Joe Rogan 51:03 Yeah. Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 51:05 Damn.

Joe Rogan 51:05 And that was one of the things that I really wanted to cover with Roseanne when I had her on the podcast. 'Cause all these people were calling her a racist, an alt-right, and this and that, all these different things. I'm like, listen y- you don't understand this woman. First of all, one of the greatest stand-up comics of all time.

Tony Hinchcliffe 51:19 Yep.

Joe Rogan 51:19 Second, mentally ill, and talks about it openly.

Tony Hinchcliffe 51:24 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 51:24 And is very honest about her troubles and what happened. She was committed to a mental institution for nine months after this car accident.

Tony Hinchcliffe 51:30 Wow.

Joe Rogan 51:30 I mean, she was hit in the fucking head by a car. The car was driving, the sunlight was in her face, she couldn't see. Clipped her in the intersection, sent her flying. She was in intensive care for a long fucking time, in a coma for a long fucking time. Came out of it, was fucked up, couldn't concentrate in school, and then they committed her to a mental institution for nine months.

Tony Hinchcliffe 51:54 Good lead.

Joe Rogan 51:54 Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 51:54 I mean, that is a long time.

Joe Rogan 51:57 Yeah, the hood ornament spiked her fucking head, dude.

Tony Hinchcliffe 52:00 Oh.

Joe Rogan 52:00 Yeah. So when people are talking about her like this is all something that she planned out 'cause she's an evil person, that's like saying to a person who has a broken leg, "Why are you limping?"

Tony Hinchcliffe 52:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:12 It's really like that. Like, the... One of the reasons why she was so brilliant as a comedian, other than she worked hard and she writes and, you know, she's just got a great mind for it, one of the reasons was, she truly was f- like, incredibly impulsive and insane. And this is what allowed her to say things that other people wouldn't say, especially back then. Like, people have to realize, when Roseanne Barr was huge, and she was huge before I ever did comedy, she was huge, when she was huge, there was no women like her. No one. She was fat.

Tony Hinchcliffe 52:50 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 52:50 She didn't give a fuck. She would go on stage, she would, she would talk mad shit, it would be hilarious. She would kill.

Tony Hinchcliffe 52:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:57 She would kill, dude! I remember watching her kill, like on HBO, when I was like, probably like 18 or something like that.

Tony Hinchcliffe 53:04 She's one of Mitzi's true, like, success stories, right? Did you guys-

Joe Rogan 53:09 Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 53:09 ... talk about that? Her being in the, on, in the Main Room and then being on, like, Carson weeks later? She booked Carson in one of her first spots-

Joe Rogan 53:16 I think we talked about that the first time. We might not have.

Tony Hinchcliffe 53:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:19 It's hard to remember.

Tony Hinchcliffe 53:20 She's a Comedy Store, like, f- for Comedy Store fans and historians, like, she's like an anomaly, because I'm pretty sure her first ever spot as a paid regular was in the Main Room, which was a big deal at the time. And from that spot, she got The Tonight Show, like a week or two later.

Joe Rogan 53:38 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 53:38 Like, she got booked from her first paid regular spot to The Tonight Show. From The Tonight Show, got a sitcom de- like, was a huge overnight success. So it all went like bing, bing, boom!

Joe Rogan 53:51 Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 53:51 Like that.

Joe Rogan 53:51 One thing that she talked about the first time she did the podcast was that she lost her mind when all that was going on. She's like, "Oh, I went crazy. I lost my mind." Like...

Tony Hinchcliffe 54:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:00 The kind of pressure to go from being a housewife in Denver, to like a couple years later being one of the biggest stars in the world, like that. (snaps fingers)

Tony Hinchcliffe 54:09 Yeah. There's no... Yeah. That's, it takes, it takes w- w- uh, yeah, that would drive anybody crazy. The whole thing's crazy, because also waiting for it's crazy, and working towards it's crazy, and the whole thing's crazy. So to get it all at once, that seems crazier than anything.

Joe Rogan 54:26 Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 54:26 'Cause then you're like, "Oh my God, I'm not ready for this."

Joe Rogan 54:28 Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 54:28 "What am I gonna do?" At least most of the time in show business, right, it takes 10, 15, 20, 25 years.

Joe Rogan 54:35 Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 54:35 So then you're usually like, "I'm, I've been ready for this."

Joe Rogan 54:38 Or you do all those years, and then you're an over- overnight success, like Tiffany Haddish.

Tony Hinchcliffe 54:42 Right.

Joe Rogan 54:43 Tiffany Haddish did a bunch of years, and then outta nowhere, she becomes this giant success.

Tony Hinchcliffe 54:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:48 You know, but she prepared by doing all those years. For Roseanne Barr, it was like instantaneous. You know, the, the thing that bothered me most about all that stuff was how quickly everyone wanted to just cancel her, get rid of her, like, stop her from working ever again. "I don't wanna hear her side of it." Uh, "There's no room for explanation. There's no room for discussion. There's no room for... Just, just get rid of her. Out."

Tony Hinchcliffe 55:13 We went from wanting to see people become stars, American Idol, America's Got Talent, to watching people's dreams get destroyed.

Joe Rogan 55:21 Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 55:21 That's the new obsession. The new thing is, "We've seen people make it. Let's watch the dream get crushed. You're already rich. Get outta here. Get outta here, Trump."

Joe Rogan 55:32 Yep.

Tony Hinchcliffe 55:32 "Get outta here, Roseanne." "Get outta here, Kanye." It's like these people-

Joe Rogan 55:36 Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 55:36 ... I mean, except for Trump. I mean, Trump's its own thing, but like, trying to like, destroy people that-... are artists is, it's the weirdest thing.

Joe Rogan 55:46 Well, it's people that are on the outside that are watching these people live these spectacular lives, and if, if something goes wrong, they're happy because then that person has to be a regular person again, or even worse, they have to be a has-been, which people love.

Tony Hinchcliffe 56:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:00 People love a has-been.

Tony Hinchcliffe 56:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:02 Like, I remember one guy was shitting on Gary Coleman because Gary Coleman was a security guard. I was having this conversation with him. He was, like, laughing that, uh, Gary Coleman from Diff'rent Strokes ... That was the show?

Tony Hinchcliffe 56:13 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 56:14 ... was a security guard, and he's like, "That fucking guy's a security guard now, man." And I was like, "Okay, but if you saw, like, a regular security guard, would you go, 'Ha, that fucking guy's a security guard'? You wouldn't do that." Right?

Tony Hinchcliffe 56:26 Right.

Joe Rogan 56:26 You'd go, "Oh, there's a security guard. Hey, what's up, man? Yeah, I'm going to Building 3. Here's my ID." You'd be normal, right? But because he was famous, being a security guard's a joke and he's a loser. Like, there was, he was joy and glee-

Tony Hinchcliffe 56:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:41 ... in this guy describing how Gary Coleman, who was born, like, with a disease, I mean, he's deformed. He's-

Tony Hinchcliffe 56:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:48 This tiny person with a fucked up body. His, his whole body's a mess. I mean, he's, uh, he's physically a mess. His health is fucked up. And this guy was, uh, taking joy out of the fact that he was a security guard now. I was like, "Wow, this is ... There's a weird tendency that people have to li- to watch people that they think had it better than them fall."

Tony Hinchcliffe 57:09 Yeah. The guy that, uh, was bagging groceries from, uh, whatchamacallits? What was that guy on?

Joe Rogan 57:14 Oh, yeah, from The Cosby Show.

Tony Hinchcliffe 57:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:15 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Apparently Tyler Perry gave that guy a job.

Tony Hinchcliffe 57:21 Oh.

Joe Rogan 57:21 Shout out to Tyler Perry.

Tony Hinchcliffe 57:23 Heck yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:24 Yeah, he said that life is fact-

Tony Hinchcliffe 57:25 Casted him as a guy... Casted him as a grocery bagger (laughs) in some movie.

Joe Rogan 57:28 (laughs) Gave him double the money. (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 57:31 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:31 Yeah. No, he said, uh, "Love the fact that the guy's hustling. He's out there working." There's no shame in working.

Tony Hinchcliffe 57:36 Right.

Joe Rogan 57:36 The fact that people are so obsessed with that, that there is a, that there's a shame in it, that there's a shame in just having a job and working, it's very strange. It's very strange how, how people are attached to that, you know, that they, they, they, they immediately think that this is something to mock and make fun of, you know? I mean, it was almost universal, so many people were doing stories on that guy bagging groceries.

Tony Hinchcliffe 57:59 Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's the age we live in, man. People wanna see people break. If anybody's doing anything-

Joe Rogan 58:08 Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 58:08 ... there's a chance. They're just waiting. Ma- people are so mad. Look, if m- uh, here, if Megyn Kelly, if we didn't know what her contract was, right? If it was just some ... In fact, let's say we did know and let's say she was getting paid barely what we would ever guess, right? Let's say she's getting paid, I don't know, $100,000 a year at her new job at NBC. She'd probably still have the job. She'd pr- right? I mean, it's ... The whole crazy part is that we all know she got paid $68 million for three years for what? Right?

Joe Rogan 58:39 Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 58:39 That's the whole take. So it's like, "Let's get," you know? What-

Joe Rogan 58:42 Get her.

Tony Hinchcliffe 58:43 People, people are watching like, "What'd you just say about Halloween costumes?" (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:48 (laughs) That's it. We got her.

Tony Hinchcliffe 58:50 That's it.

Joe Rogan 58:50 We got her. Yeah. Did you ever hear it?

Tony Hinchcliffe 58:52 Uh-uh.

Joe Rogan 58:53 Play it. Megyn Kelly shit. What'd she say?

Tony Hinchcliffe 58:55 (laughs) What do you guys have, like a bu- a button-

Redban 58:57 I don't know which comment, like the apology or the original comment?

Joe Rogan 58:59 No, the apology was hilarious.

Tony Hinchcliffe 59:01 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:01 This woman, uh, said that wa- some woman from Australia said that it seems like a hostage video. The only thing that's missing is her holding up a newspaper with the date on it. (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 59:11 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:11 I retweeted it. I'm like, "It so does."

Tony Hinchcliffe 59:13 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:13 And then somebody else said w- w- if you ... There's ... One of the, one of the things, uh, about it that's so strange is how insincere it seems, like forced, like it's almost forced her.

Tony Hinchcliffe 59:24 Oh, it's her apology.

Joe Rogan 59:25 Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 59:25 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:26 The apology seemed forced.

Tony Hinchcliffe 59:27 Yeah, no, I haven't seen that.

Joe Rogan 59:28 But the, but s- forget the apology. Let's play the actual video.

Redban 59:31 Let's actually ... I remember, if I remember correctly, it's two comments she makes, one and then they come back.

Joe Rogan 59:35 Oh, really?

Redban 59:35 She ... I think the second comment, I think, was the one that was the issue, yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:38 Oh, really? What was the first comment?

Redban 59:39 Uh, I, again, I'm don- I remember, I don't remember. I wasn't paying attention.

Joe Rogan 59:42 Oh, I never saw it.

Guest 59:43 So there was a controversy on The Real Housewives of New York with Luann.

Tony Hinchcliffe 59:46 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:46 Yeah.

Guest 59:46 And she dressed as Diana Ross.

Joe Rogan 59:47 Oh.

Guest 59:48 And she made her skin look darker than it really is, and people said that that was racist. And I don't know, I felt like, who doesn't love Diana Ross? She wants to look like Diana Ross for one day. I don't, I don't know how that, like, got racist on Halloween.

Joe Rogan 1:00:00 She a- appeared to be-

Redban 1:00:01 See, that's the first one.

Joe Rogan 1:00:03 (laughs)

Redban 1:00:05 (laughs) And ...

Joe Rogan 1:00:05 Is it? But it's weird when you watch it now, like, y- you know, this is her demise. Like, you're watching the stumble, when she trips off the rock and falls off the cliff. This is the stumble. Like, I don't get it. How is that racist to wanna be Diana Ross? Then play it again.

Guest 1:00:25 ... for Halloween. Yeah, like I, back, back when-

Redban 1:00:27 Can I-

Guest 1:00:27 ... I was a kid, that was okay as long as you were dressing up as, like, a character.

Redban 1:00:31 I mean, but-

Guest 1:00:31 And that-

Redban 1:00:32 ... this is some guy's commentary from Wall Street Journal.

Joe Rogan 1:00:35 That was a wrap.

Redban 1:00:37 Um.

Joe Rogan 1:00:37 My favorite one of, of hers that she ever said ...

Redban 1:00:40 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, d- Oh, sorry.

Joe Rogan 1:00:41 My favorite one of hers ... We're good.

Redban 1:00:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:44 My favorite one of hers she ever said was, uh, they were, they were doing this thing on Fox News about Santa Claus, and someone had something about Santa Claus being black. They did something about Santa Claus being black. And she just went, "Uh, well, Santa Claus is definitely white." And she was like ... I think she said it to kids, like, "Kids, Santa Claus is definitely white." Or, "Kids, Santa Claus is real, and he's definitely white." Like, I forget what the exact terminology was, but she basically said Santa Claus is definitely white. Like, Santa Claus isn't fucking real. Okay? That's like saying Spider-Man's definitely white.

Redban 1:01:17 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01:18 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:01:18 She didn't get fired from Fox for saying that. She probably got a raise for saying that, right?

Joe Rogan 1:01:22 Yeah. Yeah, they licked her toes.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:01:23 Whole different thing at Fox.

Joe Rogan 1:01:24 Well, it was then. They don't want her now.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:01:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:27 She wanted to go back and they're like, "Nah, we're good." Ugh. Yeah, they wouldn't even take her back. The thing is, you can't go from being an ice princess in a conservative right-wing channel to being, like, Oprah. Well, she was trying to be like Oprah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:01:41 Yeah, I don't ... I'll, I'll never really get what NBC was thinking there. They were just like-

Joe Rogan 1:01:45 They were thinking, "Cha-ching!"Yeah.

Guest 1:01:47 Get that paper.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:01:49 They thought-

Guest 1:01:49 Because she's huge.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:01:49 ... those people were just gonna come over?

Joe Rogan 1:01:51 Yeah. That's exactly what they thought. They thought she has a giant fan base. But she had a fan base, for sure, some came over, but she... A lot of her fan wei- base was because she was the beautiful conservative woman-

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:02:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:02 ... who was very tough, very articulate, very smart, you know, and they liked that. She was an ice princess.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:02:09 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:02:10 And she would shut people down if they were incorrect and she wouldn't let people talk over her. She was powerful and kind of s- frightening in a hot way. Hoo!

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:02:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:18 Woo!

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:02:20 FOX News has a bunch of those chicks just waiting-

Joe Rogan 1:02:22 Oh, they're-

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:02:23 ... waiting in the helms, just built-

Joe Rogan 1:02:24 You know what they're like? They're like that closet in Ex Machina, when the dude opens it up-

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:02:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:27 ... and sees all these robots with different skin and faces and-

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:02:31 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:31 (laughs) They have so many of 'em.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:02:34 Just teleprompters ready to roll-

Joe Rogan 1:02:37 Yep.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:02:37 ... with big, big letters so they can read it clearly.

Joe Rogan 1:02:39 We'll tell you what you like.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:02:41 Yeah.

Redban 1:02:41 They're making a movie and these three are the, uh, the anchors-

Joe Rogan 1:02:45 Yeah.

Redban 1:02:45 ... at FOX News.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:02:45 Wow.

Joe Rogan 1:02:46 Yeah.

Redban 1:02:46 Margot Robbie, Nicole Kidman, and, uh...

Joe Rogan 1:02:49 And Meghan Kelly?

Redban 1:02:49 ... Charlize Theron.

Joe Rogan 1:02:50 Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:02:50 Man, wouldn't mind being on the other end of that porta potty.

Joe Rogan 1:02:56 She'll use the room. (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:02:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:56 (laughs) How dare you?

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:02:57 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:57 See, you could get fired for that.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:02:59 Uh-oh.

Joe Rogan 1:02:59 Imagine if you were on a show-

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:03:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:01 ... and you said that? That would be the end, like that. This is the beautiful thing about podcasts.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:03:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:05 Nobody gives a fuck that you said that.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:03:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:07 It has zero consequences. But like s- let's, let's pretend that you were on The Tonight Show and you were a guest and you're like, "I'd like to be at the end of that porta potty." People be like, "Oh, did he really?"

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:03:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:03:21 "Did he really? That woman was just trying to go to the restroom. You think that's funny?"

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:03:28 It's crazy what's happening. It's crazy. I've noticed it, uh, a little bit in standup lately. There's been a couple of these road trips. I did something that you told me not to do, Joe Rogan. You ready for this?

Joe Rogan 1:03:40 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:03:40 You told me not to do it years ago and I did it, and it was rough, and I performed standup comedy in Connecticut. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:03:51 (laughs) Was that right?

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:03:52 You were right, dude.

Joe Rogan 1:03:53 I told you.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:03:54 You were right.

Joe Rogan 1:03:54 It's a place of despair.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:03:56 Yeah. It's really crazy. So, one of the things that happened was, is I noticed this really cool old guy stood out in the front middle of the audience, right?

Joe Rogan 1:04:07 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:04:07 And I'm like, "You seem, like, out of place and cool as hell and old as fuck. What's your story, dude?" Right? And I noticed that there's this angry older lady, almost like, almost like Dana Carvey's, like, church lady character sitting next to him. And I go, "And who's this angry lady that you're sitting next to?"

Joe Rogan 1:04:25 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:04:26 "She doesn't wanna be here at all." And he goes, "That's my wife." And they were the most different seeming couple you could ever imagine, this happy, smiling, laughing at everything guy, and just this, I mean, she was looking at me with hate, not just not having fun. She hated me. It could've been something that I talked about early on, maybe it was like-

Joe Rogan 1:04:48 Probably.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:04:48 ... a, something about-

Joe Rogan 1:04:49 Probably her Amy Schumer joke. (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:04:50 Could've been that, could've been my Me Too joke, could've been my, uh, Trump misdirect joke that people-

Joe Rogan 1:04:57 Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:04:57 ... you know what I mean? Anyway, and, but I noticed next to them, there's this girl who seems even angrier than the mom, and they're the only two angry people in the room. And it's a gig at a casino in Connecticut-

Joe Rogan 1:05:12 Show me her face. Gimme, gimme a face.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:05:12 ... just literally, like, literally, like, a modern day, like, i- if someone w- had said to a bad actress, like, "Play angry, play angry, angrier, angier." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:05:23 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:05:23 To a horrible actress, she just-

Joe Rogan 1:05:25 (coughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:05:25 ... like that. And, uh, and, and I go, and I go, "What's the problem?" And, you know, th- there's like, th- we're... I, I ignore it for, like, 45 minutes, right? And I'm going on and on, but the mom's angry. It turns out that the chick next to them's the daughter, and then, and they're basically mad because of whatever, whatever material or whatever. And I end up, towards the end of my set, going off on the girl. I go, I g- I go, "Take the scowl off your face."

Joe Rogan 1:05:55 (laughs) Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:05:55 I go, "What are you doing? Do you think that's going to affect me? Lady, I'm getting paid the same amount whether you laugh or not, and I'm back to LA, back to the dream tomorrow." You know what I mean? Like, at this point I'm just... My fans are loving it, and they're the ones that stumbled into the wrong casino for the wrong show at the wrong time if they were looking for Christian puppet comedy or whatever. And I said to her, I go, "You seem like, uh," I, I go, well, I go, "You seem like an internet troll that just stumbled in here. Like, you seem like you're gonna write about this. You seem an- like the type of angry where you think you're gonna change something or you're gonna do something to my career. That's what I th- that's the vibe I get from you." I literally made the jokes. The crowd's loving it, by the way. You know what I mean? Because they can tell, like, it's not punch-

Joe Rogan 1:06:47 Is she saying anything to you or is she just swearing at you?

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:06:49 Th- there was one, there was one part where I go, I go, my, because my goal, the, the thing that, the reason why I ignored them for a while was because I go, "You seem like a tough lady," to the mom, right? I go, "You seem tough but I'm gonna break you at some point during this set, and when I do, I'm gonna make sure this whole room knows. I'm gonna say, 'I gotcha.' And I- I'm not gonna tell you when it's gonna happen, but I'm gonna make you laugh." Anyway, 45 minutes later, I get to the point to where I had, in my mind, set up that there's no way she's not going to laugh at this. And sure enough, I got a big smile out of her, right? I'm not... I won't say what the joke is. I don't wanna give anything away, but I got the smile and I'm literally like, "Ugh," and the whole crowd's already laughing and they can tell that I'm looking to watch to see if the lady breaks, and she doesn't. And I go, "How in the w- I thought I was gonna getcha."

Joe Rogan 1:07:42 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:07:42 (laughs) "I thought I was gonna getcha on that one. How is it possible that you don't laugh at that? Like, what do you do for fun, lady?" Like, at this point I'm just-

Joe Rogan 1:07:51 Right.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:07:51 ... all amped up, and I go, "What would I have to do to possibly make you laugh?" And that's finally when the angry daughter goes, "Be funny."... I go, "Oh, no. I've been killing for 52 minutes now." You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 1:08:08 Right.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:08:08 Like, at this point, whatever. There's everybody el- the 99.9% of the other audience is the witness at this point, and they're against this chick, right? 'Cause this chick's now just mad because whatever. And, and I go, "You seem like the type of girl that thinks that you can even affect an artist." You know what I mean? This is this little millennial nerdy girl. And sure enough, sure enough, I go on Twitter later that night. There's a-

Joe Rogan 1:08:38 (clears throat)

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:08:38 "At, at Mohegan Sun, you should not be promoting this comedian," ba-ba-ba-ba." Two days later, my manager gets a l- an email, and he's like, "Dude, we got this, uh, email from, uh, some lady in Connecticut-"

Joe Rogan 1:08:51 (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:08:51 "... saying you were mean, mean to her on stage." I'm like, "She wrote you a letter?" He's like, "It's three paragraphs long." I'm like, "What is happening?" Like, I mean, what is happening in this world where someone's taking the time to write a letter to my manager, of all people, who, by the way, is laughing at the whole thing. He-

Joe Rogan 1:09:11 Imagine if your manager dumped you for that.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:09:13 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:09:13 Like, enough.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:09:14 Right, one audience member in Connecticut.

Joe Rogan 1:09:16 Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:09:17 And that-

Joe Rogan 1:09:17 We polled the crowd, and 99% thought you were funny, but that's not good enough.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:09:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:09:21 You need 100%.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:09:22 But man, you were right, dude. And, and, and-

Joe Rogan 1:09:25 Connecticut is weird.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:09:26 It's a weird place. I mean-

Joe Rogan 1:09:28 You could run into a person like that anywhere, right?

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:09:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:09:31 I mean, I've run into people like that at the store.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:09:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:09:33 They sit in the front row with their arms crossed. Y- you're gonna run into people like that everywhere.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:09:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:09:37 But there's something about Connecticut, where it's there's no real cities. You got Hartford, which is a, a land of despair, and you got New Haven, which is worse. And it's just a, a highway between Boston and New York.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:09:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:09:47 That's all it is.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:09:49 Yeah, I-

Joe Rogan 1:09:49 Boston's great. New York's great. Connecticut's like, "What the fuck are you doing here? What's going on here?" It's become such a running joke that Lex Fridman, the scientist from MIT, who was on here the other day to talk about artificial intelligence, he brought it up as a joke. What did he say? Do you remember what he said? Something about...

Redban 1:10:06 I feel like he just wanted you to shit on him.

Joe Rogan 1:10:08 (laughs)

Redban 1:10:10 I don't remember exactly what he said.

Joe Rogan 1:10:11 Dude, I did so many gigs in Connecticut, so many, so many, 'cause I lived in Boston, and it was like a, you know, hour-and-a-half drive.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:10:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:10:19 Two-hour drive, you're in Connecticut. We did a lot of gigs there. Greg Fitzsimmons and I, we did a shit ton of gigs in Connecticut. We'd always leave going, "What the fuck?" (laughs)

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:10:27 Yeah, what was that? It was.

Joe Rogan 1:10:30 Some of them were good.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:10:30 It felt, it felt dirty. It's a gig I did purely for the money. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:10:34 Some of them are good. My good friend Tommy Junior lives in Connecticut. There's good people in Connecticut. It's not, it's not all bad, but it's disproportionately bad. That's the problem. It's not that everyone in Connecticut is full of despair. No. I mean, there's a lot of people that live in, like, uh, Hartford and, not Hartford, but what's that area outside of New York City-

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:10:54 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 1:10:54 ... where all the, the rich people live?

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:10:56 Greenwich.

Joe Rogan 1:10:57 Greenwich.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:10:57 That's where Vince McMahon lives.

Joe Rogan 1:10:58 Super rich, like estates.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:11:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:11:01 Like, uh, Dave Letterman has a spot out there.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:11:03 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:11:04 I mean, like, you gotta drive like a mile to get to the property down their driveway. The driveway's like a mile of, like, manicured lawns. They have those Great Gatsby type residences there.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:11:14 Hell yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:11:15 A lot of pills. A lot of people pilled up. (imitates car dinging) Yeah, look at these joints.

Redban 1:11:18 Just the average houses, I guess.

Joe Rogan 1:11:20 Whoo!

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:11:20 Wow.

Joe Rogan 1:11:21 Look at these joints.

Redban 1:11:22 That's not real, but it's being built.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:11:24 Damn.

Joe Rogan 1:11:25 That looks like an apartment building, dude.

Redban 1:11:26 I know, but it's-

Joe Rogan 1:11:27 But let me see a house.

Redban 1:11:28 ... more lavish.

Joe Rogan 1:11:28 Let me see a house. See, that's a house. That's a Connecticut house.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:11:32 Fuck.

Joe Rogan 1:11:32 Dude, there's insane amounts of finance money. Like, that's Great Gatsby type shit. Did you ever read The Great Gatsby?

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:11:41 I, uh, I watched the movie. I was supposed to read the book as a student.

Joe Rogan 1:11:45 The DiCaprio movie is actually pretty fucking good.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:11:48 Yeah, really good.

Joe Rogan 1:11:49 Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:11:49 Great soundtrack too.

Joe Rogan 1:11:50 Yeah, and it was weird too because like they took artistic license with like the way the automobiles worked and moved, and there was like a lot of flare to it that made it exciting.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:12:00 Beautiful movie.

Joe Rogan 1:12:01 Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:12:01 One of those ones where you gotta turn out the lights, make sure your color on your TV is right, and turn up the sound.

Joe Rogan 1:12:06 Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:12:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:12:06 Yeah, but that's that area. That area of Connecticut is just unbelievably wealthy. That area of Connecticut, and there's another area that's similar to that in Long Island, like that's the Hamptons. The Hamptons and Long Island is all just insane wealth.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:12:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:12:23 Just, like Matt Lauer has a house out there that's like 16 million dollars from all that Today Show money.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:12:31 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:12:32 << Holla. >>

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:12:33 Man, he's doing it. Matt-

Joe Rogan 1:12:35 He's not... What is he gonna do? You think that guy can make a comeback?

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:12:39 Uh, I think, no... I think, no, I think he's gonna be, like, selling things any day now, like how, like, Larry King now, like, sells, like, things, like, on late night TV. You ever see that?

Joe Rogan 1:12:52 What is he selling?

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:12:53 Larry King's like slinging like-

Redban 1:12:55 He's still got a show.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:12:55 ... fake products and stuff.

Redban 1:12:57 Larry King still has his show, so it's sort of a mixture of an advertisement.

Joe Rogan 1:13:02 Is this show on television or is it on the internet?

Redban 1:13:06 I think it's on the internet.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:13:07 (laughs)

Redban 1:13:07 It's like 4:00 in the morning.

Joe Rogan 1:13:07 So Euro was just on it.

Redban 1:13:08 Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:13:09 Really?

Joe Rogan 1:13:10 Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe 1:13:11 I'm talking about the