Joe Rogan Experience #1207 - Jeff Ross & Dave Attell

Jeff Ross is a comedian, writer, producer, and director, also known as the “Roastmaster General.” Dave Attell is a stand-up comedian, writer and actor. Their new special "Bumping Mics " is streaming now on Netflix.

Joe RoganhostJeff RossguestDave AttellguestJamie VernonguestMichael B. Jordan (promo clip)guest

Nov 28, 20183h 2mWatch on YouTube ↗

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0:00 – 1:26
Smoking in the studio: stage habits, nicotine focus, and club rules
1. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
2. JRJeff Ross
  (laughs)
3. DADave Attell
  It's like old school, Russian.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Three, two... There's something I like about the fact that you can smoke in here.
5. DADave Attell
  Yeah.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  I like that people can be relaxed, you know.
7. DADave Attell
  Thank you.
8. JRJeff Ross
  I had to find a comedy club to shoot our special where, th- where Dave could smoke. (laughs)
9. DADave Attell
  (laughs)
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Where, where, where would you go?
11. JRJeff Ross
  Comedy Cellar.
12. DADave Attell
  The Underground, yeah.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  The Underground, they let you smoke?
14. DADave Attell
  Well, but now- (laughs)
15. JRJeff Ross
  No, but they let him smoke. (laughs)
16. JRJoe Rogan
  ... I think there's, like, a rule where if you're a performer, you can get away with it-
17. JRJeff Ross
  Right.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  ... 'cause it's a part of your routine.
19. JRJeff Ross
  (laughs)
20. DADave Attell
  The, like a cabaret-
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
22. DADave Attell
  ... old, like on the, still on the books?
23. JRJoe Rogan
  T- don't take my word for that. I bel- I believe I learned that from Dice while he was on stage.
24. DADave Attell
  Yes.
25. JRJeff Ross
  I think you read that in the Dice Chappelle manual.
26. DADave Attell
  (laughs)
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. Well, they just can get away with it, right? Yeah, Dave's always smoking on stage.
28. DADave Attell
  No, I, I d- I don't smoke anymore, but, uh, I'll tell you one thing that, that year in between, like, where you're not allowed to smoke on stage, that was a tough year 'cause you're used to, like, smoking and the crowd smoking-
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
30. DADave Attell
  ... and, you know, it was, like-
1:26 – 3:44
Weed, blunts, and the ‘buzz’ mix: pre-show rituals and moderation
1. JRJoe Rogan
  What do you get out of smoking on stage? It just fulfills the nicotine fix, or does it actually give you something? 'Cause they say it, I've, I've smoked a cig, I smoked one of Tony Hinchcliffe cigarettes a couple of times before I went on stage.
2. DADave Attell
  Uh-huh.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  And you get, like, a, a pick me up. There's a little something, you get, like, a, an enhancement.
4. DADave Attell
  I, it's, yeah, I don't, I, I, I'll say right now, it definitely is a weakness that, like, you know, now I don't drink, don't do anything, but, like, coffee and cigarettes, it's like-
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
6. DADave Attell
  ... it's breathing for me. But, uh-
7. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
8. DADave Attell
  ... on stage, it does focus, it helps focus you.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  They say it's a, l- legitimately, they say n- nicotine is actually a good nootropic, which is a-
10. DADave Attell
  Oh, is it?
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, it actually enhances cognitive function. Like, if you do a test without nicotine, then do a test with nicotine-
12. DADave Attell
  Really?
13. JRJoe Rogan
  ... with non-users.
14. DADave Attell
  Mm-hmm.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
16. JRJeff Ross
  It makes me nauseous. If I accidentally smoke a blunt, and not just straight weed or something-
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, really?
18. JRJeff Ross
  ... but just tobacco, like, Snoop handed me something the other day, and I thought it was all pop, but there was tobacco in there.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  These things are the shit.
20. DADave Attell
  What is it?
21. JRJoe Rogan
  These blunts. There's a Backwoods.
22. JRJeff Ross
  I can deal with it on the, on the paper.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Jamie, where'd you get these? Where were they at?
24. JRJeff Ross
  Uh, th- this company, Hollywood's, Fort, I don't know, the store is, like, case all over it.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  These are the shit. These, these are my favorite.
26. JRJeff Ross
  I'll have to check them out.
27. DADave Attell
  Mm-hmm.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. It's, uh, Charlie Murphy got me into these things back in the day, uh, because he would roll them himself. He would get those swisher sweets and he would tear them apart, and then he'd put the weed inside of it and roll it up.
29. JRJeff Ross
  Oh.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, old school. And then, uh, Chappelle got me into it again, because I smoked one with him one day, uh, at the back of The Comedy Store, I was like, "Damn, this is a weird high." You get high-
3:44 – 5:43
How ‘Bumping Mics’ began: late-night Cellar chaos becomes an act
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Did you guys do this one time as a goof and then start touring with it? Or did you just put the idea together? Like, how, wha- what made you decide to work together like this?
2. DADave Attell
  You know, it, it all started out just late night at The Comedy Cellar, where, you know, I'd be on stage and I would just see Jeff in the room, and I would bring him up, and then we would just, you know, like, f- throw down basically-
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Right, right.
4. DADave Attell
  ... and have a great time. And, you know, we kept doing it and doing it, and people actually would, you know, like, they wanted to see it. It became, like, this kind of, like, "Are you guys gonna go up together?" They would always ask us, "Are you guys going up together?" So we could get the next mic going, you know-
5. JRJeff Ross
  Yeah.
6. DADave Attell
  ... that kind of thing.
7. JRJeff Ross
  How it really w- when I started living in LA, or not even when I started, but in the last few years, I'd come back to New York, I have an apartment in Greenwich Village near The Comedy Cellar, and, you know, it's like Cheers, everyone knows your name. You, you land, you're, you go, instead of going to my empty apartment, I'll go, "Let's see who's at The Cellar, get something to eat," and I'd b- I'd start booking my flights where I'd land around midnight. Dave would i- would inevitably have the 1:00 AM spot, and I wouldn't, I just wanted to get my ya-yas out, and he would just bring me up. And he'd sit by the piano and I would goof off, or I'd sit by the piano and he would tell jokes, and we started s- setting each other up, and then organically, our friends started popping up with us, or people from the audience, or whatever, bachelorette party-
8. DADave Attell
  Yeah, we-
9. JRJeff Ross
  ... and we just started making an act out of it without even realizing it.
10. DADave Attell
  Yeah, it w- it w- it was like, uh, it w- it was a lot of fun, like, in the beginning especially, 'cause it was like, you know, he really kept me on my toes. Like, listening is, like, the hardest thing, listening on stage.
11. JRJeff Ross
  Right.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
13. DADave Attell
  You know? Uh, 'cause once you're up there alone, locked in, you know, like, you control all, like, facets of, of the performance, but when there's another person up there, especially... Jeff and I, we, we have so many different skill sets, so, like, it was really cool to, like, work off of him. It brought up my game a bit. It definitely made me quicker and faster and funnier to have to, like, you know, really p- pretty much roll with it, you know? And I, I think that the crowd dug that too. It was, like, a different energy than just straight up, like, a showcase, you know?
5:43 – 8:35
Building duo timing: eye contact, connection, and “one plus one equals three”
1. JRJeff Ross
  The one thing that you would do on a podcast that you wouldn't normally do on stage, which is look at someone else.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
3. JRJeff Ross
  And it took me a long time, and I, I think-
4. DADave Attell
  (laughs)
5. JRJeff Ross
  ... I could speak for Dave too. (laughs)
6. DADave Attell
  Yeah, we had a million arguments on looking at each other-
7. JRJeff Ross
  Whether or not-
8. DADave Attell
  ... like a couple.
9. JRJeff Ross
  ... it's like sports. If you look at somebody-
10. DADave Attell
  Yeah.
11. JRJeff Ross
  ... you, you're never gonna not catch that ball.... but when you're wondering what the other guy's doing-
12. DADave Attell
  (laughs)
13. JRJeff Ross
  ... and you're kinda going like this. But when I, it's like, it's like, we're, we connect now. And instead of doing, like, in tandem one-at-a-time jokes, we do jokes together.
14. DADave Attell
  That's hard.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. Wha- what, uh, like, that's a weird thing, where, like-
16. JRJeff Ross
  (laughs)
17. JRJoe Rogan
  ... you see twins, where twins will do an act, and one guy will do the setup-
18. JRJeff Ross
  (laughs)
19. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and the other guy will do the punchline.
20. JRJeff Ross
  Yes.
21. DADave Attell
  Mm-hmm.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  And then they bo- do a double punchline together.
23. JRJeff Ross
  We're hoping for that one day. (laughs)
24. DADave Attell
  Mm-hmm. (laughs)
25. JRJoe Rogan
  I feel like-
26. DADave Attell
  Too coordinated.
27. JRJeff Ross
  I feel like it's one plus one equals three. You know, two headliners get together by choice, (can opening) not by necessity.
28. DADave Attell
  Mm-hmm.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. Yeah.
30. DADave Attell
  But then-
8:35 – 11:12
Road testing everywhere: casinos, theaters, and why rowdy crowds help
1. JRJeff Ross
  You've done outdoor, you've done theater, you've done casino. I think we are one of the best casino acts, I'll say right now.
2. DADave Attell
  Casino acts.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Why?
4. JRJeff Ross
  I think we really are. Why? I think in a casino, we take it to the level that needs to be... Especially in a D-level casino, I'm talking, like-
5. DADave Attell
  (laughs)
6. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
7. JRJeff Ross
  Like, you're like, hoping-
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Pechanga?
9. JRJeff Ross
  Yeah, yeah, exactly. They're hoping for-
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
11. JRJeff Ross
  ... like, uh, uh, you know, like one of those electric poker things.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Ah.
13. DADave Attell
  Right.
14. JRJeff Ross
  Electronic poker. Like, that kinda, that's us.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Foxwoods.
16. JRJeff Ross
  Yeah. Well, Fox, w- we do rock there.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Foxwoods is nice.
18. JRJeff Ross
  Dave likes the casinos, 'cause-
19. DADave Attell
  I get to smoke.
20. JRJeff Ross
  ... yeah, they let him smoke. (laughs)
21. DADave Attell
  Yeah.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh.
23. JRJeff Ross
  In the elevator, everywhere.
24. DADave Attell
  My people, those are my people.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Right, that's true about casinos, right?
26. JRJeff Ross
  But it's also a very bawdy audience, and you can say anything, and you don't have to hold back at all.
27. DADave Attell
  Yeah.
28. JRJeff Ross
  And, you know, we, uh, we-
29. DADave Attell
  Jeff is fearless. I'm, I have a filter up, but he is fearless. He really is.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Actually, Pechanga's that place in Temecula, right?
11:12 – 12:24
Food as the post-show hobby: elk, steaks, and Rogan’s “busy brain”
1. DADave Attell
  Joe, that's what we do after the show, 'cause we're both a little older now, we, we really eat, that's what we do. We really, like, enjoy it.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  I love eating.
3. DADave Attell
  What's your, like, do you like steaks and stuff?
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
5. DADave Attell
  Oh, dude, you should hang with us, 'cause we really go-
6. JRJeff Ross
  But he doesn't eat cow steaks. He eats, like, weird-
7. JRJoe Rogan
  I eat cow steaks too.
8. JRJeff Ross
  He eats, like, wolf steak and shit.
9. DADave Attell
  (laughs)
10. JRJoe Rogan
  I would eat a wolf steak, but I'm afraid of a wolf.
11. DADave Attell
  Like Game of Thrones stuff.
12. JRJeff Ross
  That's why this lady was giving kids their elk breakfast.
13. DADave Attell
  (laughs)
14. JRJoe Rogan
  My kids eat elk, they really do.
15. JRJeff Ross
  (laughs)
16. DADave Attell
  Well, we'll eat it.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  It's delicious. I wish I... Uh, I need to set up a kitchen here and cook for you guys.
18. DADave Attell
  Oh, that would be great.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  It's fucking fantastic. You, you eat it.
20. JRJeff Ross
  Kids, eat your elk-eos for breakfast.
21. DADave Attell
  (laughs)
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Elk-eos. If you ate it, you'd wanna get it more.
23. JRJeff Ross
  Really?
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. Yeah.
25. DADave Attell
  What does it taste like in, in the meat scale?
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, uh, a bison.
27. JRJeff Ross
  No.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, in, a little bit more, uh, unusual.
29. DADave Attell
  Mm.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Better than venison.
12:24 – 14:24
Bits, process, and capturing the moment: why comedy needs real audiences
1. DADave Attell
  How did you learn to do all this stuff?
2. JRJeff Ross
  What do you mean?
3. DADave Attell
  Like, every time I meet you, you have, like, two other skills. Like, how do you do this stuff? You're pretty busy.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  I need things to f- occupy my brain.
5. DADave Attell
  Yeah.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  I, I just have one of those brains. The only way I'm at peace is if I have a bunch of difficult shit that I do all the time. I have to-
7. DADave Attell
  Constantly challenging yourself.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, I, I have to.
9. DADave Attell
  Wow.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  That's how my brain works.
11. DADave Attell
  Wow.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  You know, everybody has their own weird kink.
13. DADave Attell
  Uh-huh.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  My kink is I need to be exhausted.
15. JRJeff Ross
  (laughs)
16. DADave Attell
  Wow.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  I-
18. DADave Attell
  Like, just for your brain itself-
19. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
20. DADave Attell
  ... it needs to be fed?
21. JRJoe Rogan
  But my brain f- needs shit to do. It needs things to concentrate on. If I, if I don't have things to concentrate on or things that are really difficult, I, uh, I start playing tricks on myself.
22. DADave Attell
  You mean mental or physical?
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Both. Both mental and physical, yeah.
24. DADave Attell
  You get like depressive-
25. JRJeff Ross
  How do you handle stress?
26. JRJoe Rogan
  I have to have both.
27. JRJeff Ross
  How do you handle the time management with family and career and touring?
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Get up early.
29. JRJeff Ross
  Yeah.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Get up early, so like this morning, I was up at 6:30. Kids go to school, they're, they're leaving the house by 7:00. I take the dog running, I'm gone for two hours, and then I (clears throat) come back, get a bunch of shit done at the house, then come over here.
14:24 – 19:01
Making the Netflix docuseries: director choice, structure, and keeping it real
1. DADave Attell
  That's the cool thing with Jeff is that, like, um, you know, we both bring material up on stage. But at the end of the day, it's the stuff that just comes to us, like that, you know, in the moment stuff, especially with the audience. That's the stuff that I really think, uh, you know, we should give a shout-out to Andrew, the director-
2. JRJeff Ross
  Of course.
3. DADave Attell
  ... for capturing all that. Uh, Jeff's friend who is now-
4. JRJeff Ross
  Andrew Jarecki.
5. DADave Attell
  ... uh, one of the best directors out there, man. He really, uh, he really, you know ... Once again, it was Jeff's choice, and he did the job and then some. I mean, it's so good the way he put it all together, you know?
6. JRJoe Rogan
  And you guys have ... It's more than just you guys going on stage. There's a bunch of other stuff happening.
7. JRJeff Ross
  There's a bunch of people that drop by. Uh-
8. DADave Attell
  It's a three ep- three-episode series.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, really?
10. DADave Attell
  Docuseries. So, I don't know if you saw The Jinx on HBO about, uh, Robert Durst, the legend murderer.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  No, I never watched that. I, I-
12. DADave Attell
  It's a phenomenal documentary.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  I've heard.
14. DADave Attell
  And my buddy, Andrew Jarecki, directed that. He also directed Capturing the Friedmans years ago. It was an Oscar-nominated documentary.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  What was that about?
16. DADave Attell
  That was about a, a family of convicted, actually, child molester math, science teachers in Long Island.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh.
18. DADave Attell
  Father, son.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  I remember the ...
20. DADave Attell
  Based on a, a short that he did about a party clown whose family wound up being implicated in this crazy controversy.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, that's right. That's right. Oh, that was him, huh?
22. DADave Attell
  Yeah.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Wow.
24. JRJeff Ross
  And I, I, Andrew and I are tight, and Dave and I were sort of going back and forth on who could sort of direct us, who would know our moves but yet have the experience, and-
25. DADave Attell
  Right.
26. JRJeff Ross
  ... Dave doesn't like anybody that's too hip.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
28. DADave Attell
  I, I just wanted, I wanted, I like it straight ahead.
29. JRJeff Ross
  That's why I thought of Andrew. (laughs)
30. DADave Attell
  I liked it straight ahead, and I, and I also think some of these comedy specials are over-directed.
19:01 – 47:25
Jeff Ross and the art of roasting: lane ownership and Roast Battle rules
1. JRJeff Ross
  I earned it because when people laughed at me and thought, "Oh, that's a dead art, it's a lost art, it's antiquated, it's corny-"
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
3. JRJeff Ross
  "... it's old guys," I stuck by it and said, "No, it's alternative comedy. No one's doing it." I get to- I get to hang with legends like Buddy Hackett and Milton Berle, you know, and- and I stuck to it because... And there was a wh- there was a- there- there was a time where I was, like, embarrassed, like, "Oh, I'm gonna be pigeonholed as the roast guy."
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Were you embarrassed?
5. JRJeff Ross
  Not em- Uh, I don't know if embarrassed is the right word, but-
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Uncomfortable?
7. JRJeff Ross
  Yeah. 'Cause you're like, "Well, I wanna be more than that," you know?
8. JRJoe Rogan
  When- when was this around?
9. JRJeff Ross
  This was probably 10 years ago, and I was in Vegas. Chappelle again, words of wisdom, he's like, "Dude, that's your lane, make that a five-lane highway-
10. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
11. JRJeff Ross
  ... and ride it." And that's kinda what we started- what I started doing, started really owning it and loving it. And, to the credit of the world, as we became more pussies in the world, like-
12. DADave Attell
  (laughs)
13. JRJeff Ross
  ... roasting became more and more potent and important.
14. DADave Attell
  Yeah.
15. JRJeff Ross
  And the world needs to develop thick skin, and I think roasting honors people and it's done with love, but it also kinda toughens us up a little bit.
16. DADave Attell
  Well-
17. JRJeff Ross
  I think it's of the time.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  When I came back to The Comedy Store, first thing I came back to watch was Roast Battle.
19. JRJeff Ross
  Yeah.
20. DADave Attell
  Yeah.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  And, uh, I hadn't really know- I- or- I'd heard, but I didn't really know where it was.
22. JRJeff Ross
  Right. I remember that night.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  And then w- I remember that night really well 'cause I remember thinking, "Holy shit, this is so mean-"
24. JRJeff Ross
  (laughs)
25. JRJoe Rogan
  "... but, like, so funny."
26. DADave Attell
  It is. I- I- sometimes I'm like, "Whoa."
27. JRJeff Ross
  You-
28. JRJoe Rogan
  But-
29. DADave Attell
  You guys go deep.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  But really good.
47:25 – 51:13
Comedy lineage and heroes: Norm, Gilbert, and the craft of timing
1. JRJeff Ross
  Get-
2. JRJoe Rogan
  ... Norm? Do you guys do anything with Norm?
3. DADave Attell
  I wish we could do something with Norm.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  He's got a thing on Netflix.
5. JRJeff Ross
  Yeah, but he was in n-... in LA, we were in New York. And I...
6. JRJoe Rogan
  He's a... another dude.
7. JRJeff Ross
  He's so funny.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  But goddamn, he's good.
9. JRJeff Ross
  I wish he would... I... I-
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Did we... if we do this again-
11. DADave Attell
  Yeah, Norm... there's nobody like him as a standup.
12. JRJeff Ross
  I'm not saying we will, but if we ever do this again, this Bumping Mics day, we should get Norm.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Did you see his-
14. DADave Attell
  Yeah.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  ... uh, his tweets, his Thanksgiving tweets?
16. DADave Attell
  No.
17. JRJeff Ross
  No.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
19. DADave Attell
  Once again, on my flip phone, I'm, uh...
20. JRJoe Rogan
  I know one about Friends. I retweeted it. He's just so ridiculous, man. He's so funny.
21. DADave Attell
  Well, there's something about Norm's just, like, his ability to, uh... you know, I have this thing about timing, w- I don't know what you think about it, but it was like, there's something about the timing that, like... you know, I know in today's world that, like, you know, people don't care about that. It's more about, like, identity and all that stuff. But, like, Norm is a master of timing.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
23. DADave Attell
  He really is, like, a master of, like, timing and this whole thing that he's trying to do where he's finding these classic jokes, I love that.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  No, he's genius. He's... he's one of the best.
25. DADave Attell
  There is no one like him.
26. JRJeff Ross
  My first road gig ever-
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, very unusual.
28. JRJeff Ross
  ... was opening for Norm.
29. DADave Attell
  Really?
30. JRJeff Ross
  Yeah, it was probably-
51:13 – 1:16:29
Old-school scenes vs. today: Boston brutality, ‘famine mentality,’ and community now
1. DADave Attell
  That is definitely ... Of the two towns I'm thinking right now, Boston and Philly are the two towns that have changed dramatically-
2. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
3. DADave Attell
  ... comedically-
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
5. DADave Attell
  ... and also just in terms of, like, like when you walk around in Boston now, you're not like, "Hey, I'm gonna get jumped, you know, 'cause I'm wearing a Yankee."
6. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
7. DADave Attell
  "I'm wearing a Yankee" You know, if anything, it's like, you know-
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Calm down.
9. DADave Attell
  ... everybody here is so, like, metro and, you know, someone's gonna invite me to, like, a poetry reading at a, at a wine, you know, bar or something like that. It's very metro, and the comedy there is still good, but it- it's funny, that old Boston was such a challenge. It really was like, especially outsiders.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. What year did you start going- going to Nick's?
11. DADave Attell
  In the, uh, in their 90s, you know, and I-
12. JRJoe Rogan
  That was-
13. DADave Attell
  ... every time I dreaded it.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Those were savage times.
15. DADave Attell
  Yeah, they really were.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Savage times.
17. DADave Attell
  They were- they were battles every time.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  And they had local headliners that could-
19. DADave Attell
  Destroy you.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  ... blow the greatest comics ever off-stage.
21. DADave Attell
  It- it was- it was definitely one of those things, you were terrified where you would hear just, like, "Hey, you know what? Um, uh, uh, gee, I don't- I don't know what to tell you, but, um, Gavin might come down." You're like, "Uh, oh, okay."
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh. (laughs)
23. JRJeff Ross
  (laughs)
24. DADave Attell
  "He just wants to do a few minutes."
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. They would go on stage just to fuck with you.
26. DADave Attell
  Yeah, ex- absolutely. You had to earn it.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  100%. Yeah, Gavin's-
28. DADave Attell
  And I didn't earn him every time.
29. JRJeff Ross
  Comics were mean back then. I don't know if it's still-
30. DADave Attell
  (laughs)