Joe Rogan Experience #1207 - Jeff Ross & Dave Attell

Jeff Ross is a comedian, writer, producer, and director, also known as the “Roastmaster General.” Dave Attell is a stand-up comedian, writer and actor. Their new special "Bumping Mics " is streaming now on Netflix.

Joe RoganhostJeff RossguestDave AttellguestJamie VernonguestMichael B. Jordan (promo clip)guest

Nov 28, 20183h 2mWatch on YouTube ↗

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0:00 – 15:00
(laughs) …
1. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
2. JRJeff Ross
  (laughs)
3. DADave Attell
  It's like old school, Russian.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Three, two... There's something I like about the fact that you can smoke in here.
5. DADave Attell
  Yeah.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  I like that people can be relaxed, you know.
7. DADave Attell
  Thank you.
8. JRJeff Ross
  I had to find a comedy club to shoot our special where, th- where Dave could smoke. (laughs)
9. DADave Attell
  (laughs)
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Where, where, where would you go?
11. JRJeff Ross
  Comedy Cellar.
12. DADave Attell
  The Underground, yeah.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  The Underground, they let you smoke?
14. DADave Attell
  Well, but now- (laughs)
15. JRJeff Ross
  No, but they let him smoke. (laughs)
16. JRJoe Rogan
  ... I think there's, like, a rule where if you're a performer, you can get away with it-
17. JRJeff Ross
  Right.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  ... 'cause it's a part of your routine.
19. JRJeff Ross
  (laughs)
20. DADave Attell
  The, like a cabaret-
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
22. DADave Attell
  ... old, like on the, still on the books?
23. JRJoe Rogan
  T- don't take my word for that. I bel- I believe I learned that from Dice while he was on stage.
24. DADave Attell
  Yes.
25. JRJeff Ross
  I think you read that in the Dice Chappelle manual.
26. DADave Attell
  (laughs)
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. Well, they just can get away with it, right? Yeah, Dave's always smoking on stage.
28. DADave Attell
  No, I, I d- I don't smoke anymore, but, uh, I'll tell you one thing that, that year in between, like, where you're not allowed to smoke on stage, that was a tough year 'cause you're used to, like, smoking and the crowd smoking-
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
30. DADave Attell
  ... and, you know, it was, like-
15:00 – 30:00
Oh, really? …
1. DADave Attell
  three ep- three-episode series.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, really?
3. DADave Attell
  Docuseries. So, I don't know if you saw The Jinx on HBO about, uh, Robert Durst, the legend murderer.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  No, I never watched that. I, I-
5. DADave Attell
  It's a phenomenal documentary.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  I've heard.
7. DADave Attell
  And my buddy, Andrew Jarecki, directed that. He also directed Capturing the Friedmans years ago. It was an Oscar-nominated documentary.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  What was that about?
9. DADave Attell
  That was about a, a family of convicted, actually, child molester math, science teachers in Long Island.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh.
11. DADave Attell
  Father, son.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  I remember the ...
13. DADave Attell
  Based on a, a short that he did about a party clown whose family wound up being implicated in this crazy controversy.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, that's right. That's right. Oh, that was him, huh?
15. DADave Attell
  Yeah.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Wow.
17. JRJeff Ross
  And I, I, Andrew and I are tight, and Dave and I were sort of going back and forth on who could sort of direct us, who would know our moves but yet have the experience, and-
18. DADave Attell
  Right.
19. JRJeff Ross
  ... Dave doesn't like anybody that's too hip.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
21. DADave Attell
  I, I just wanted, I wanted, I like it straight ahead.
22. JRJeff Ross
  That's why I thought of Andrew. (laughs)
23. DADave Attell
  I liked it straight ahead, and I, and I also think some of these comedy specials are over-directed.
24. JRJeff Ross
  Right.
25. DADave Attell
  So, I didn't want to fall into this whole, like, you know, instead of, like, lighting the stage, you guys hold lanterns, you know.
26. JRJeff Ross
  Oh.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
28. DADave Attell
  Like that kind of thing.
29. JRJeff Ross
  Jesus Christ.
30. DADave Attell
  You know, you bump lanterns, and then we'll have-
30:00 – 45:00
It's gotta be content.…
1. JRJoe Rogan
  y- your, your act, 'cause you're fucking-
2. DADave Attell
  It's gotta be content.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  ... brilliant.
4. DADave Attell
  Uh-huh.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  No, it's, it's your lack of connection with the internet.
6. DADave Attell
  Yeah.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  I think if you were connected more with the internet, more people would be going to see you.
8. JRJeff Ross
  Hmm.
9. DADave Attell
  I'm not a good promoter, I know that.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  I, I, I 100% believe that. I 100% believe that.
11. JRJeff Ross
  I can see that.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  'Cause you're, you're... It's hard to talk complimentary about someone when they're right in front of you. You're, you're brilliant as a joke writer. You're one of the most prolific I know-
13. DADave Attell
  Oh, thank you.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  ... one of the most clever that I know, but you're also the...
15. DADave Attell
  (laughs)
16. JRJoe Rogan
  You have less ego than anyone I've ever met in my life. You're like some weird fucking Tibetan monk dude-
17. JRJeff Ross
  (laughs)
18. JRJoe Rogan
  ... that's been sitting up in some cave somewhere. I mean, you're one of the best comics ever, in my opinion.
19. DADave Attell
  Wow.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  And you, you, you're so, you're so low-key. It freaks people out sometimes.
21. DADave Attell
  I, I, I'm all about the... I, I really love to hang. Like he was saying, like, the, the cult of the comics-
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
23. DADave Attell
  ... like us hanging-
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
25. DADave Attell
  ... and, like, coming from you, dude, that's, like, extra special, so thank you.
26. JRJeff Ross
  Dave doesn't even like to get recognized when
27. I know he doesn't. I can tell.
28. DADave Attell
  Yeah, I don't like any of that stuff, but-
29. JRJoe Rogan
  That's why I think th- I d- I think there's a correlation. You're, you have more bandwidth-
30. DADave Attell
  It's my own self-hate. (laughs)
45:00 – 1:00:00
Yeah, but then we…
1. DADave Attell
  like, have a problem with if a joke works continuously some way, I'm like, "There's something wrong with that. It's hacked."
2. JRJeff Ross
  Yeah, but then we go to shoot-
3. DADave Attell
  You know, I know it's wrong, but-
4. JRJeff Ross
  ... we shoot a Netflix special and you're not using your A material. (laughs)
5. DADave Attell
  No, I am.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
7. DADave Attell
  Dude, I... I... I had to... you know, I think of the jokes as children. I gave up a lot of my, uh, you know, my firstborn there.
8. JRJeff Ross
  Yeah, the ugly ones.
9. DADave Attell
  That's not true.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
11. JRJeff Ross
  It's f-
12. DADave Attell
  My pharmacist joke, my hummus joke.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  It's because you-
14. JRJeff Ross
  (laughs)
15. DADave Attell
  (laughs)
16. JRJoe Rogan
  ... you were... like, it's so important to have that mindset to be a great club comic, right? Because every-
17. DADave Attell
  Yes.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  ... show has to be its own thing.
19. DADave Attell
  Mm-hmm.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  You know, that's... that keeps you, like, you restart-
21. JRJeff Ross
  Right.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  ... for every show. You restart.
23. DADave Attell
  Right.
24. JRJeff Ross
  There's nothing worse.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
26. JRJeff Ross
  There's nothing worse than seeing somebody go over and over and over the same thing every year you see them. It's terrible.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  That's sad.
28. DADave Attell
  Well-
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Because it could be so much better. That's what you... like, as a person who's a, a comic, you understand what they're doing. They just don't wanna take any chances. But as a person who's, you know, also... you know, uh, how good it feels to write something new and e- eventually get it to the point where you could say it.
30. JRJeff Ross
  Gilbert... Gilbert Live is hilarious, right? So, like... but for years, like, he's gotten out of it now, but for years he wouldn't update his material. And I s- took him... my sister and my brother-in-law and John Stamos, we all went to see McCaroline's one night.
1:00:00 – 1:01:14
Right. …
1. DADave Attell
  like that?" It was that ... Is that part of it? You know.
2. JRJeff Ross
  Right.
3. DADave Attell
  I didn't understand that it was in the round, you know. But th- but now I realize that that's another, like, really hard venue to play, is the round, you know.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, I've only done a few of those. I did the, uh, that place in Phoenix. That one's in the round, the Hollywood Theater. That's a, that's a great spot.
5. DADave Attell
  Oh, I, I know what you're talking about. I played there.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Because I think Louis did one of his HBO specials there.
7. DADave Attell
  That's right. And 'cause George Carlin did one, right?
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm, I think so.
9. DADave Attell
  Yeah.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  He did so many of them, so ... That guy did them everywhere. I mean-
11. JRJeff Ross
  Every year.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  That is bananas. That's one of the craziest places ever. And talk about someone who did it totally differently, he would basically write a monologue.
13. DADave Attell
  Yeah.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  He would write. You know, he'd take his time.
15. DADave Attell
  Not working at all. Not working out.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  He, well, he'd kind of tighten it up on stage, they would say.
17. DADave Attell
  Oh.
18. JRJeff Ross
  Right. Huh.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  You know, as time ... You know, the bits, as he would just keep doing them and figure out a better way to do them. But basically, he would write it out.
20. JRJeff Ross
  But he'd write it out first?
21. JRJoe Rogan
  He would write the whole thing out.
22. DADave Attell
  Yeah, that's right.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, and he did it every year.
24. JRJeff Ross
  Wow.
25. DADave Attell
  That works.
26. JRJeff Ross
  Yeah.
27. DADave Attell
  That was, like, at the height of, of that HBO comedy thing, you would, like, tune in specific just to see the special.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
29. DADave Attell
  Yeah.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, he was in a d- a different place than anybody else because of how prolific he was. And some w- some would say, like, "Yeah, but s- you know, some of it wasn't my favorite stuff." And, like, listen, it, it, it is impossible to write an hour every fucking year and have it your best version of that hour.

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