Joe Rogan Experience #1224 - Adam Greentree

1. 0:04 – 1:12

   Adam’s 5-month U.S. adventure and comparing landscapes (Australia vs. America)

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:04

      Three, two, one. All the way from-

   2. AGAdam Greentree0:09

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:09

      ... down under. How are you, brother? What's going on?

   4. AGAdam Greentree0:11

      I'm good.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      Good to see you again, man.

   6. AGAdam Greentree0:12

      Yeah. Hell, yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      You're on a wild, uh, magical mystery tour of the United States of America here.

   8. AGAdam Greentree0:17

      I am. It's been amazing.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      With your kids, your cute little kids.

   10. AGAdam Greentree0:19

       Yeah. They're cute.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:20

       Your daughter is damn adorable.

   12. AGAdam Greentree0:21

       They're cute if they're not your own. (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:22

       They're, uh... Am I adorable? I love kids. But you, uh, you're taking them too. You took everybody, like, you're-

   14. AGAdam Greentree0:28

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       ... you're here for how many months?

   16. AGAdam Greentree0:30

       Uh, five months.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       You moving? Tired of Australia?

   18. AGAdam Greentree0:33

       No. Hell no.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       Come on, bro. You know it's not.

   20. AGAdam Greentree0:34

       Just a big trip.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       No, it's better over here.

   22. AGAdam Greentree0:37

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       (laughs)

   24. AGAdam Greentree0:37

       It is. I love America. It's awesome.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       Is it better?

   26. AGAdam Greentree0:39

       Um-

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       You can't say that. They won't let you back in.

   28. AGAdam Greentree0:41

       Yeah, probably not.

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:42

       (laughs)

   30. AGAdam Greentree0:43

       They're very different, you know, but-
2. 1:12 – 3:18

   28 days solo in the Rockies: grizzlies, fear, and how “normal” wild danger feels

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:12

      Wow. Dude, let me tell you something. Your 28 days that you did in the Rocky Mountains out here that we put on Instagram, you know, that, that, we, you know-

   2. AGAdam Greentree1:21

      Yeah, yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:21

      ... we, we're promoting it constantly.

   4. AGAdam Greentree1:22

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:23

      That was like one of the most talked about, like every... I got calls from all my friend- Bert Kreischer was fucking obsessed with you.

   6. AGAdam Greentree1:28

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:29

      H- he wouldn't stop calling me about it. He's like, "The fuckin' guy's by himself."

   8. AGAdam Greentree1:33

      Yeah, yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:33

      "The, the, the video with him with the grizzly bear and he's pointing the gun at it. Jesus Christ."

   10. AGAdam Greentree1:37

       Yeah. The fucking weirdest thing is it's, that's normal shit. It is. That's very normal.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:42

       Yes.

   12. AGAdam Greentree1:42

       But society's so removed from it now.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:44

       Well, if you're out there, it's normal to get false charged by a grizzly bear.

   14. AGAdam Greentree1:49

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:49

       That is normal, but-

   16. AGAdam Greentree1:49

       You're living with nature, yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:50

       It's one good reason not to fucking be out there. (laughs)

   18. AGAdam Greentree1:55

       (laughs) I was talking with, uh, Kim about this w- we hiked into the back of Montana to the spot that's usually got a bunch of grizzly bears that I go to, and, uh, we were talking about you, how you won't come out to Australia hunting because you're scared of everything.

   19. JRJoe Rogan2:07

       (laughs)

   20. AGAdam Greentree2:07

       The difference is, when you're walking around the mountains here, it can happen at any point, 'cause-

   21. JRJoe Rogan2:12

       Yes.

   22. AGAdam Greentree2:12

       ... fucking grizzly bears have got feet. They walk on land. In Australia, you pretty much have to go into the water. So you're only worried about that when you go to collect water or you're thinking about having a wash or something. Here it's full time.

   23. JRJoe Rogan2:25

       For whatever reason, it doesn't bother me as much to get killed and eaten by a bear-

   24. AGAdam Greentree2:30

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan2:30

       ... than it does a giant saltwater crocodile.

   26. AGAdam Greentree2:33

       It should. I reckon the crocodile would be nicer.

   27. JRJoe Rogan2:35

       What?

   28. AGAdam Greentree2:36

       Yeah, it'd be nicer. It'd like grab you, it'd drag you down, you'd drown anyway, you know, and then it would do what it wants with ya. A grizzly bear's gonna fucking maul you, scratch your face off, bite your neck, take chunks out of you. It's gonna be longer, dude.

   29. JRJoe Rogan2:50

       Yeah, but it's American.

   30. AGAdam Greentree2:53

       (laughs)
3. 3:18 – 4:23

   Predators eating prey alive: mountain lions, wolves, and nature’s indifference

   1. AGAdam Greentree3:18

      Yeah. Did you see the mountain lion that I ended up hunting-

   2. JRJoe Rogan3:21

      Yes.

   3. AGAdam Greentree3:21

      ... when I was out here?

   4. JRJoe Rogan3:21

      I did, yeah.

   5. AGAdam Greentree3:22

      And, like, mountain lions usually kill their prey, but it obviously it grabbed the calf and it was eating this calf while it was still alive, like a beef cow calf.

   6. JRJoe Rogan3:30

      Yeah. I saw the video of that.

   7. AGAdam Greentree3:31

      Pretty, pretty, yeah, pretty disturbing.

   8. JRJoe Rogan3:33

      Ugh.

   9. AGAdam Greentree3:33

      And then I seen one not long ago, someone shared with me with a mountain lion dragging a mule deer down and it's like chomping on this mule deer before it actually dies, you know, and it's like... There's just not that thought process there. There's not that human, you know?

   10. JRJoe Rogan3:47

       No. As long as they make sure that they have it as a meal-

   11. AGAdam Greentree3:50

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan3:50

       ... and it's not going anywhere, they'll just start eating.

   13. AGAdam Greentree3:52

       That's... it's done, yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan3:53

       Yeah. Wolves do the same thing.

   15. AGAdam Greentree3:54

       There's nature. (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan3:55

       Uh, some friends, uh, were elk hunting and they came across this elk who, uh, these wolves had torn the back legs apart and were, uh... it was in the river and the wolves were eating it while it was in the river-

   17. AGAdam Greentree4:08

       Hmm.

   18. JRJoe Rogan4:08

       ... and the thing was moaning and screaming. It couldn't go anywhere.

   19. AGAdam Greentree4:10

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan4:11

       And this, bu- bull elk-

   21. AGAdam Greentree4:12

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan4:12

       ... in the wa- in the water (roars) and they just pulled chunks out of this-

   23. AGAdam Greentree4:16

       Pretty, pretty horrible for us, but-

   24. JRJoe Rogan4:18

       Oof.

   25. AGAdam Greentree4:19

       ... na- nature don't give a fuck, does it?

   26. JRJoe Rogan4:21

       Standard, standard for them. I mean, it's, uh...

   27. AGAdam Greentree4:23

       Yeah.

4. 4:23 – 9:56

   Wolf intelligence and communication: packs, strategy, and Yellowstone’s ripple effects

   1. JRJoe Rogan4:23

      Have, have you encountered any wolves when you're out there?

   2. AGAdam Greentree4:25

      Yeah, plenty of times, yeah. The first time I went to Canada was Northwest Territories and there was a pack of wolves that, they were chasing a caribou bull and they pretty much chased this thing to, like, a lav of sweat, you know. Like, the c- this is in winter. So the bull, the caribou bull got really hot and they chased it into the freezing cold river and they sort of surrounded it in the river and then they just left it and they walked off, you know. And it wasn't that they were walking away from their kill. They knew the job was done. The wolves went back up high and they got onto these rocky benches and sat in the sun and were, like, drying out theirselves and cooling down and drying out and this caribou never left the river. It was, like, just quivering in the river and then that afternoon when we come back, that caribou was just a carcass with, like, flesh hanging off the ribs on the side of the river. So they come back down once the river had done its job and ate him, you know.

   3. JRJoe Rogan5:14

      Wow.

   4. AGAdam Greentree5:14

      Smart as hell, eh?

   5. JRJoe Rogan5:16

      That's cr- that's really crazy that they're that intelligent, that they know it's over. They're like, "Oh, yeah, he's in the water. He's in the water. Let's just-"

   6. AGAdam Greentree5:21

      Yeah, "We can chill now."

   7. JRJoe Rogan5:22

      "... let's just, let's go dry off."

   8. AGAdam Greentree5:23

      Yeah, yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan5:24

      That is bananas.

   10. AGAdam Greentree5:25

       Yeah, crazy, eh?

   11. JRJoe Rogan5:26

       They're so wise. Uh, people that I know that have seen them in the forest say they look at you a different way.

   12. AGAdam Greentree5:31

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan5:32

       Th- they, they look at you... there's a, a way they look through you. They look at you in a way, like, w- almost like... Do you think that that's the reason why the, the, the myth of the werewolf exists?

   14. AGAdam Greentree5:43

       Mm-hmm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan5:44

       Is it people that have these terrifying encounters with wolves, they swear that it's part human?

   16. AGAdam Greentree5:48

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan5:49

       'Cause you make-

   18. AGAdam Greentree5:49

       Like, gazing into you.

   19. JRJoe Rogan5:50

       Yeah, they're-

   20. AGAdam Greentree5:51

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan5:51

       ... looking into you. They're figuring you out, you know?

   22. AGAdam Greentree5:53

       Mm-hmm.

   23. JRJoe Rogan5:53

       You gotta think what it would be like if you're just out there, you know, if you're lucky to live five years old.

   24. AGAdam Greentree5:59

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan5:59

       Right? You get this hardscrabble life out there chasing much larger animals than you.

   26. AGAdam Greentree6:03

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan6:04

       And you gotta kill them with your face.

   28. AGAdam Greentree6:05

       (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan6:07

       (laughs)

   30. AGAdam Greentree6:07

       Make it happen or die. Yeah, crazy. I had a pack of, like, 30 wolves this last trip that I was in BC, and they kept coming around camp. We had horses and that in camp and, um, one day, I ventured out to try and get onto them and get a better look at them, and they just ... Without seeing me, they just kept this perfect range, you know. Like, they'd howl back to me. I was trying to call them in. I was howling, they'd howl back to me and they'd just keep this perfect range. And you could tell the whole time they were communicating because there- there'd be another wolf or a couple of wolves that were, like, a couple of miles in the other direction, and you could hear them moving the same pattern that the rest of these wolves were.
5. 9:56 – 13:19

   Staying connected in remote country: uploading, reception hacks, and stepping away from phones

   1. JRJoe Rogan9:56

      When you're out there in the woods and you're doing these live streams or these, um, these, uh, Instagram Stories, how are you ... how are you hooking up when you're out there?

   2. AGAdam Greentree10:04

      Some of them are saved.

   3. JRJoe Rogan10:06

      Oh.

   4. AGAdam Greentree10:06

      So some of them are like ... I think the, the ... Last year when I did the solo hike through the Arnhem Land, like the northern territory of Australia, that was like a 13-day delay I think where every day I was still documenting it.

   5. JRJoe Rogan10:19

      Mm-hmm.

   6. AGAdam Greentree10:19

      But it wasn't until that I got back into civilization that I was uploading it each day.

   7. JRJoe Rogan10:24

      So when you do it on your phone, it just saves it on the phone?

   8. AGAdam Greentree10:26

      I'm just filming it in the normal camera mode.

   9. JRJoe Rogan10:29

      Oh, I see.

   10. AGAdam Greentree10:29

       And then uploading it.

   11. JRJoe Rogan10:30

       Oh.

   12. AGAdam Greentree10:30

       But a lot of places, especially here in the US, when you're up high, like usually I've got half- decent reception. I'll do a little bit of research, what's the best provider in the area? ATE, you know, Verizon, whatever it is, and I'll end up getting a SIM card for that, you know, provider and then usually if I'm up high, it's not too bad. But it just depends where you are. Like back country-

   13. JRJoe Rogan10:52

       Is- I saw some-

   14. AGAdam Greentree10:52

       ... BC, nothing at all.

   15. JRJoe Rogan10:54

       Oh, yeah. There's nothing up there.

   16. AGAdam Greentree10:54

       Yeah. Northern Territory Australia, like Arnhem Land, like nothing at all.

   17. JRJoe Rogan10:58

       Yeah. What about satellite?

   18. AGAdam Greentree11:00

       You can't upload data really well from satellite.

   19. JRJoe Rogan11:04

       Oh.

   20. AGAdam Greentree11:04

       Yeah, that's the issue and if you could, you'd wanna be freaking rich 'cause it would charge you an arm and a leg.

   21. JRJoe Rogan11:10

       Mm-hmm, yeah.

   22. AGAdam Greentree11:10

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan11:11

       Yeah, I saw these things at REI. You put them on your backpack. It's like an extender.

   24. AGAdam Greentree11:16

       Okay, yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan11:17

       And it somehow or another extends your cellphone range and-

   26. AGAdam Greentree11:19

       I used to use them back in the olden days.

   27. JRJoe Rogan11:21

       Are they legit?

   28. AGAdam Greentree11:22

       Uh, the ones in Australia were. They were 3G, like Telstra 3G.

   29. JRJoe Rogan11:27

       Mm-hmm.

   30. AGAdam Greentree11:27

       That's our pr- provider back home. They were pretty good but you'd have like a big antenna hanging off your back and I'm not that into it. (laughs)
6. 13:19 – 17:51

   Social media conflict and consequences: why people are nastier online

   1. JRJoe Rogan13:19

      Well, it's even life. I think we're all spending too much time on our phones, too much time being connected, and, uh, two of my friends, Ari Shaffir and Bert Kreischer hired companies to, uh, take over their social media.

   2. AGAdam Greentree13:32

      Yeah?

   3. JRJoe Rogan13:32

      They don't, they don't look at their social media at all. What they do is they'll post something-

   4. AGAdam Greentree13:36

      Mm-hmm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan13:36

      ... by sending it to them.

   6. AGAdam Greentree13:37

      Oh.

   7. JRJoe Rogan13:38

      Like, say, if he has a, a tour coming up, like, "Hey, you know, I'm gonna be in Sacramento," blah, blah, blah.

   8. AGAdam Greentree13:43

      Mm-hmm.

   9. JRJoe Rogan13:43

      He sends it to them, they take that, they put it up. He doesn't see it at all. He doesn't, doesn't pay attention to a, a second of it.

   10. AGAdam Greentree13:49

       That sorta sounds nice. (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan13:51

       Yeah, I'm, I'm thinking it does.

   12. AGAdam Greentree13:53

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan13:53

       You know, I've been better at it over the last, like, uh, couple months than I ever had before, by just leaving the phone alone-

   14. AGAdam Greentree14:00

       Yeah, yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan14:01

       ... and not touching it and just hanging out.

   16. AGAdam Greentree14:03

       Yeah, I'll do certain posts where I don't even look back on it.

   17. JRJoe Rogan14:05

       Good.

   18. AGAdam Greentree14:05

       It's just like-

   19. JRJoe Rogan14:06

       Yeah.

   20. AGAdam Greentree14:06

       ... cool, posted it. The content's out there. If people wanna look at it, they can look at it. If they don't wanna look at it, change the channel, go and look at something different. But then every now and then, there's one that I like to look at the engagement with-

   21. JRJoe Rogan14:18

       Mm-hmm.

   22. AGAdam Greentree14:18

       ... and stuff like that, which is good.

   23. JRJoe Rogan14:20

       Yeah.

   24. AGAdam Greentree14:20

       But, you know, there's always, like, there's 10% fuckwits out there-

   25. JRJoe Rogan14:23

       (laughs)

   26. AGAdam Greentree14:23

       ... that are kinda... It's true. There's like 10%. So I've been, I've been looking at it.

   27. JRJoe Rogan14:27

       I don't even think it's that high. I don't even think it's that high.

   28. AGAdam Greentree14:29

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan14:29

       I think it's-

   30. AGAdam Greentree14:29

       How many followers you got? Like, how many people would tune in to an Instagram post of yours each day?
7. 17:51 – 24:45

   Virtual reality, haptic suits, and “experiences you didn’t earn” (plus the future of sex tech)

   1. JRJoe Rogan17:51

      Well, the, what's, uh, you know, sh- telling your kids or, about the virtual reality setup that we have back there, that disturbs me.

   2. AGAdam Greentree17:59

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan17:59

      That disturbs me. It d- doesn't disturb me that, you know, it's bad for you or anything like that. It's so fun and it's so immersive, and I know, and I know where it's going.

   4. AGAdam Greentree18:09

      Mm-hmm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan18:09

      I'm like, "It's gonna keep getting better and better," just like it was 30 seconds to download a, just a simple piece of paper filled with text-... you know, 20 years ago.

   6. AGAdam Greentree18:18

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan18:18

      20 years from now, that is gonna look like crayons.

   8. AGAdam Greentree18:22

      Oh, totally.

   9. JRJoe Rogan18:22

      I mean, but that is ... The, the ... You gotta put that thing on. You're gonna freak out. There's some archery games too.

   10. AGAdam Greentree18:26

       Is there?

   11. JRJoe Rogan18:27

       Yeah, yeah.

   12. AGAdam Greentree18:27

       I think I'll do that, yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan18:27

       There's a bunch of them. It's pretty cool. You actually have, uh ... It's called haptic feedback.

   14. AGAdam Greentree18:32

       Mm-hmm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan18:32

       So as you draw the bow back, you actually feel, like, a vibration in your hand, like ...

   16. AGAdam Greentree18:37

       Really?

   17. JRJoe Rogan18:38

       Yep, yep. And then you let go like that. Tesla suit. Jesus Christ, Tesla.

   18. AGAdam Greentree18:43

       Wow.

   19. NANarrator18:43

       It's not, it's, it's not the same company.

   20. JRJoe Rogan18:45

       What?

   21. NANarrator18:45

       They're just calling it that.

   22. AGAdam Greentree18:46

       All right.

   23. JRJoe Rogan18:46

       Fuck you.

   24. NANarrator18:47

       As far as I know.

   25. AGAdam Greentree18:47

       All right.

   26. JRJoe Rogan18:47

       Fuck you, other company.

   27. NANarrator18:49

       (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan18:49

       Tesla suit unveiled at CES 2019 takes virtual reality to new heights. Yeah, they're gonna have haptic feedback suits. Is that what it is?

   29. NANarrator18:57

       Yeah, there's like 68 sensors in there and you can-

   30. JRJoe Rogan18:59

       Oh.
8. 24:45 – 27:38

   Time-lapse skies at Joshua Tree: Milky Way, air traffic, and modern ‘futurism’

   1. AGAdam Greentree24:45

      Uh, it's crazy. Yeah, I just, uh, I posted a photo, uh, video actually, which is like 700 images stacked together out at Joshua Tree.

   2. JRJoe Rogan24:54

      Oh, I saw that.

   3. AGAdam Greentree24:55

      Yeah. And it's like the Milky Way cruising past, but then there's just... The air traffic, dude, is insane. It's just like constant.

   4. JRJoe Rogan25:02

      Yeah.

   5. AGAdam Greentree25:02

      You know, I'm like, anyone looking in, this must already look like the future, you know?

   6. JRJoe Rogan25:07

      Oh, yeah.

   7. AGAdam Greentree25:07

      It must look so futuristic already. And I'm, I'm like, well, it- it sort of is. Maybe this... Like, we're living in it now.

   8. JRJoe Rogan25:13

      Here it is.

   9. AGAdam Greentree25:14

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan25:15

       So-

   11. AGAdam Greentree25:15

       Look at the air traffic.

   12. JRJoe Rogan25:16

       Now, is that-

   13. AGAdam Greentree25:16

       It peaks at about this point here. Look at them all, just back and forth.

   14. JRJoe Rogan25:20

       And that's all air traffic? None of that is asteroids-

   15. AGAdam Greentree25:22

       Nope.

   16. JRJoe Rogan25:23

       ... or meteors?

   17. AGAdam Greentree25:23

       Every bit of that's air traffic.

   18. JRJoe Rogan25:25

       Wow. That's such an amazing-

   19. AGAdam Greentree25:26

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan25:26

       ... image, man.

   21. AGAdam Greentree25:27

       It wasn't until the camera stopped early hours of the morning that there was like-

   22. JRJoe Rogan25:30

       And for anybody, this is, uh, adam.greentree on Instagram.

   23. AGAdam Greentree25:33

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan25:33

       And do you still have your photography page-

   25. AGAdam Greentree25:35

       Yeah, I do.

   26. JRJoe Rogan25:35

       ... First Man Image?

   27. AGAdam Greentree25:36

       Yep. First Man Image.

   28. JRJoe Rogan25:37

       First dot Man Image, and these are some amazing photos. That's-

   29. AGAdam Greentree25:42

       Yeah, so that's like-

   30. JRJoe Rogan25:43

       ... incredible.
9. 27:38 – 33:34

   City vs wilderness culture shock: LA rain talk and Adam’s Disneyland baptism

   1. JRJoe Rogan27:38

      You know, this is the thing about people that don't spend much time in the wilderness and don't appreciate the wilderness. They don't- they don't-

   2. AGAdam Greentree27:44

      They just... Well, they're not connected to it.

   3. JRJoe Rogan27:46

      No.

   4. AGAdam Greentree27:46

      They don't understand. So I heard a bunch of people in the city, because, you know, I spent the last five, six days here in LA, you know, and the bad weather's come in. They're like, "Oh, this is disgusting weather." And I'm like, "Fuck no, the bush is loving this."

   5. JRJoe Rogan27:57

      Yeah.

   6. AGAdam Greentree27:57

      Like, the- the Earth's loving this. Yous need rain.

   7. JRJoe Rogan28:00

      Yeah.

   8. AGAdam Greentree28:00

      Especially after all these horrible fires that you had.

   9. JRJoe Rogan28:02

      (sighs) But people just-

   10. AGAdam Greentree28:03

       Like, rain's a good thing.

   11. JRJoe Rogan28:04

       They're just so complainy.

   12. AGAdam Greentree28:06

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan28:06

       It rains out here literally 10 days a year.

   14. AGAdam Greentree28:09

       Yeah, yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan28:09

       10 days a year is normal.

   16. AGAdam Greentree28:11

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan28:11

       I mean, I might-

   18. AGAdam Greentree28:12

       You could do with some rain.

   19. JRJoe Rogan28:12

       ... I might be exaggerating, I might be exaggerating, but slightly.

   20. AGAdam Greentree28:15

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan28:15

       Slightly.

   22. AGAdam Greentree28:16

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan28:16

       Like I wouldn't... I don't imagine it rains more than 50 days a year out here.

   24. AGAdam Greentree28:20

       Yeah, crazy.

   25. JRJoe Rogan28:20

       I don't even th- I think that's... No.

   26. NANarrator28:22

       That's not exaggerated. Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan28:22

       That's not exaggerated, right?

   28. NANarrator28:23

       10's, 10's probably about right, yeah, I feel like.

   29. AGAdam Greentree28:25

       Hmm.

   30. JRJoe Rogan28:25

       Nah.
10. 33:34 – 51:35

    Hard-earned fun vs shallow fun: misery, gratitude, and why suffering sticks

    1. JRJoe Rogan33:34

       (laughs) Well, at the end of the day, Steve Rinella said it best. This is, uh, this is, uh, a quote that he said that I think he was talking about someone else told him this. That there's two different kinds of fun. There's fun that you have while it's happening.

    2. AGAdam Greentree33:47

       Mm-hmm.

    3. JRJoe Rogan33:47

       Like, you ride the rollercoaster. It's fun, but you don't look back on that-

    4. AGAdam Greentree33:51

       No, then it's done.

    5. JRJoe Rogan33:51

       ... five years from now-

    6. AGAdam Greentree33:53

       Yeah, yeah.

    7. JRJoe Rogan33:53

       ... and go, "That was amazing."

    8. AGAdam Greentree33:54

       Yeah.

    9. JRJoe Rogan33:54

       But then there's things that suck while you're doing 'em, like your 28-day trip in the Rocky Mountains-

    10. AGAdam Greentree34:01

        Yeah.

    11. JRJoe Rogan34:01

        ... pointing a, a gun that you don't even know has a jammed bullet in it.

    12. AGAdam Greentree34:04

        Yeah, yeah.

    13. JRJoe Rogan34:05

        And a grizzly is charging at you.

    14. AGAdam Greentree34:07

        Yeah.

    15. JRJoe Rogan34:07

        Like, that will be fun for the rest of your life.

    16. AGAdam Greentree34:10

        Oh, totally, yeah, yeah.

    17. JRJoe Rogan34:11

        You'll feel that when you bring it back-

    18. AGAdam Greentree34:13

        Yeah.

    19. JRJoe Rogan34:13

        ... when you talk about it.

    20. AGAdam Greentree34:14

        Yeah, there's, like, shallow fun. I always think-

    21. JRJoe Rogan34:16

        Yeah.

    22. AGAdam Greentree34:16

        ... so- some things are just shallow, but they're cool to do.

    23. JRJoe Rogan34:18

        Yeah.

    24. AGAdam Greentree34:18

        There's nothing wrong with doing 'em.

    25. JRJoe Rogan34:20

        Yeah.

    26. AGAdam Greentree34:20

        But they're just, they're not real meaningful.

    27. JRJoe Rogan34:23

        Exactly.

    28. AGAdam Greentree34:23

        You know what I mean?

    29. JRJoe Rogan34:24

        Yeah.

    30. AGAdam Greentree34:24

        And then there's shit that you do that's just really meaningful, you know? It builds character. It's something that you always look back on, you know, memories and shit.
11. 51:35 – 55:09

    Distance, vehicles, and outback reality: Australian travel, fuel mods, and ‘gray nomads’

    1. JRJoe Rogan51:35

       You guys got a bunch of wacky cars over there.

    2. AGAdam Greentree51:37

       The Cruiser's probably better. I'm about to buy a Land Cruiser. That's a Hilux there.

    3. JRJoe Rogan51:41

       The new Land Cruiser? Yeah.

    4. AGAdam Greentree51:43

       The tray back, though. So, like a dual cab. So, like five seats, but it's got a tray on it. And then-

    5. JRJoe Rogan51:48

       A tray?

    6. AGAdam Greentree51:50

       Yeah.

    7. JRJoe Rogan51:50

       Oh, you mean like a pickup truck bed?

    8. AGAdam Greentree51:51

       Like a pickup truck bed, but we usually rip the, the, the one that's on it off.

    9. JRJoe Rogan51:56

       Uh-huh.

    10. AGAdam Greentree51:56

        We usually rip the tr- the pickup truck bed off, because it's like, it's bulky, you know. There's not a lot of room in it, really.

    11. JRJoe Rogan52:02

        Mm-hmm.

    12. AGAdam Greentree52:03

        Usually rip that off and we'll build a steel tray, so it's like a whole flat bed. Or you might call it a flat bed.

    13. JRJoe Rogan52:09

        Mm-hmm.

    14. AGAdam Greentree52:10

        And, uh, you can just fit a lot more on it. And it's a lot more rickety, you know. You can throw firewood, rocks on it, whatever the fuck you want.

    15. JRJoe Rogan52:17

        Hmm. Well, you guys have to have vehicles that you could drive for, like, a day before you hit a gas station, right? (laughs)

    16. AGAdam Greentree52:25

        If you're doing that. If you're doing those hunts that I do, yeah. So one of the first things you do is you rip off the fuel tank and you put, like, an aftermarket fuel tank on it that's usually, like, twice the capacity.

    17. JRJoe Rogan52:35

        Yeah.

    18. AGAdam Greentree52:35

        Or you throw a second fuel tank on it and go from there. So, I don't know what it is in gallons, but, like, say a fuel tank's, like, usually 60 liters.

    19. JRJoe Rogan52:43

        20 gallons is what usually a fuel tank is out here.

    20. AGAdam Greentree52:46

        Yeah. Well, then we'd double it to, like, 40.

    21. JRJoe Rogan52:48

        Mm-hmm.

    22. AGAdam Greentree52:49

        Or 50 or 60 or something like that.

    23. JRJoe Rogan52:51

        Right.

    24. AGAdam Greentree52:51

        And 'cause there's such a market for it in Australia, there's a bunch of them that you buy ready that are ready to mount onto your vehicle.

    25. JRJoe Rogan52:58

        Why is there a market for that in Australia?

    26. AGAdam Greentree52:59

        'Cause it's fucking 100 miles to anywhere.

    27. JRJoe Rogan53:02

        (laughs)

    28. AGAdam Greentree53:02

        (laughs) That's why. Um, four-wheel driving's, like, different in Australia as well, you know. It's like, so where my business is, um, the nearest city, which is Perth's, like, 18 hours drive, you know.

    29. JRJoe Rogan53:16

        18-

    30. AGAdam Greentree53:16

        And then we fuel-
12. 55:09 – 57:50

    Hunting culture differences (U.S. vs Australia) and the ethics of eating predators

    1. JRJoe Rogan55:09

       Now, um, do most people that would, will do this? Do they... Are they just going out there camping, like-

    2. AGAdam Greentree55:16

       Just camping, getting, getting a good, you know, influx of the outdoors sort of thing, you know, getting a hit.

    3. JRJoe Rogan55:21

       But it seems like there is quite a bit of hunting in Australia, though, like particularly-

    4. AGAdam Greentree55:25

       There is but-

    5. JRJoe Rogan55:25

       ... uh, bowhunting seems to be on the rise.

    6. AGAdam Greentree55:27

       Yeah. It's just not really promoted well, except for, you know, the bowhunting community itself. Whereas you come to America and there's, like, towns with big sign up saying, "Welcome hunters," you know, and it's promoted as-

    7. JRJoe Rogan55:41

       Really?

    8. AGAdam Greentree55:41

       Yeah, it's not... It's like it's not part of our history in Australia, even though it is.

    9. JRJoe Rogan55:46

       Signs that say, "Welcome hunters"?

    10. AGAdam Greentree55:48

        In America. Haven't you seen them signs?

    11. JRJoe Rogan55:49

        Oh, in America.

    12. AGAdam Greentree55:50

        Yeah, yeah.

    13. JRJoe Rogan55:50

        Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

    14. AGAdam Greentree55:50

        Oh, in Australia there's none of that, no.

    15. JRJoe Rogan55:52

        Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's what I meant.

    16. AGAdam Greentree55:53

        So I think it is on the rise, you know, and I think there's, like, this bit of a trend at the moment, you know, go and kill your own-

    17. JRJoe Rogan56:00

        Right.

    18. AGAdam Greentree56:00

        ... which is good. I love that. It's awesome.

    19. JRJoe Rogan56:02

        Well, especially because Australia has so many nonnative species that you can hunt.

    20. AGAdam Greentree56:06

        Exactly. Yeah.

    21. JRJoe Rogan56:07

        And I mean, psh, you don't ever have to buy meat in Australia.

    22. AGAdam Greentree56:10

        No, no.

    23. JRJoe Rogan56:11

        Do you ever buy meat?

    24. AGAdam Greentree56:12

        If we're eating chicken, yeah.

    25. JRJoe Rogan56:14

        Yeah.

    26. AGAdam Greentree56:14

        That's about it.

    27. JRJoe Rogan56:15

        (laughs)

    28. AGAdam Greentree56:15

        But-

    29. JRJoe Rogan56:16

        Just to mix it up.

    30. AGAdam Greentree56:16

        Yeah. The fridge is full. I fill all me friends' fridges, me family's fridges, stuff like that.
13. 57:50 – 1:04:52

    Hunting mountain lions with dogs: practicality, regulation, and conservation funding

    1. AGAdam Greentree57:50

       It's... This... The human brain allows us to manage things in a certain way, you know?

    2. JRJoe Rogan57:54

       (laughs)

    3. AGAdam Greentree57:54

       And it's like these biologists have put all this study and research in the r- you know, going, "Okay, you can hunt males in this area." So that's all I could hunt where I was. I could only shoot a male.

    4. JRJoe Rogan58:03

       How do you know it's a male?

    5. AGAdam Greentree58:05

       Well, that's when the dogs come in handy. So, like, I've always nev- I'd never really wanted to hunt with dogs 'cause I like to do all the hunting meself, but, um, there's a special bond between the hunter and the dogs when you're hunting, that's for sure. And it was actually a really good experience. I really loved it, but a lot of people frown on using dogs. But the best way to, to determine the sex is the dogs will track it and the lion will take refuge in a tree, and then you can have a look at its genitals and make sure it's a male with-

    6. JRJoe Rogan58:34

       With binoculars?

    7. AGAdam Greentree58:35

       Yeah, yeah.

    8. JRJoe Rogan58:36

       Yeah.

    9. AGAdam Greentree58:36

       Or sometimes if they're low enough, you can tell with the human eye. So the first thing we established was w- it was the lion that... I wanted the lion that had killed that calf or was eating that calf alive. We ended up getting the, getting the rancher to come in and he ended up putting the calf out of its misery. It couldn't be saved. And, uh, then we put the dogs back on that mountain lion track and they chased him about seven miles and they ended up treeing him. We got... We marched in and hiked into the tree and ended up determining that it was a male and then, um, I ended up shooting it. It was a really good death. It was quick. But, um, if it was a female, we would have had to have left it where we were. Some states aren't like that and counties aren't like that, where it can be male and female if the population is too high. What they're trying to do in that part of Colorado is just keep that mi- mountain lion population healthy, and how they determined that was by shooting males only. That could change next year. They could have a rise in mountain lion, a decrease in the mule deer and other animals, so they might change that again, but we could only shoot a m- male, so...

    10. JRJoe Rogan59:36

        Yeah, the problem in America, um, particularly in California where they outlawed (clears throat) hunting with dogs is that the perception of using a dog to go after an animal, the perception is that it's not fair.

    11. AGAdam Greentree59:48

        Hmm.

    12. JRJoe Rogan59:49

        But what people... I mean, this is gonna be hard for some people, especially animal lovers, to understand, but th- it is the only effective way to hunt for mountain lions because there's no way you're gonna sneak up on them. You're just not-

    13. AGAdam Greentree1:00:00

        No, that's right, and that's-

    14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:01

        You're not gonna see them.

    15. AGAdam Greentree1:00:02

        That's when numbers start to bloom-

    16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:04

        Mm-hmm.

    17. AGAdam Greentree1:00:04

        ... and other animals like mule deer and stuff start to plummet-

    18. JRJoe Rogan1:00:06

        Right.

    19. AGAdam Greentree1:00:06

        ... which I've heard a lot that's happening in California, is the mule deer population has just been decimated because there's no control on the mountain lions.

    20. JRJoe Rogan1:00:13

        Exactly. Well, they do have control of the mountain lions, but only government employees kill them- the mountain lions.

    21. AGAdam Greentree1:00:19

        Yeah.

    22. JRJoe Rogan1:00:19

        They kill, ironically, the same amount of mountain lions that they were killing when they were hunting them.

    23. AGAdam Greentree1:00:23

        That is insane.

    24. JRJoe Rogan1:00:24

        It's insane.

    25. AGAdam Greentree1:00:25

        Yeah.

    26. JRJoe Rogan1:00:25

        But instead of people paying money to do it and getting it tagged-

    27. AGAdam Greentree1:00:29

        Which goes back into conservation.

    28. JRJoe Rogan1:00:30

        ... and getting to eat the mountain lion-

    29. AGAdam Greentree1:00:32

        Hmm.

    30. JRJoe Rogan1:00:32

        ... which I know a- again, people are like, "What are you talking about eating mountain lion?"
14. 1:04:52 – 1:08:01

    Lanai axis deer and bowhunting realities: ‘jumping the string’ and loving failure

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:04:52

       Which is one of the reasons why one of my favorite places to hunt is Lanai, 'cause Lanai is s-

    2. AGAdam Greentree1:04:57

       It's just stacked. (laughs)

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:04:58

       It's so out of whack that like please.

    4. AGAdam Greentree1:05:00

       With fucking spotted little demons that just jump out with their arrows constantly.

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:05:04

       (laughs) It's crazy.

    6. AGAdam Greentree1:05:05

       Yeah.

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:05:05

       Uh, but an animal that evolved to get away from tigers-

    8. AGAdam Greentree1:05:08

       Yeah.

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:05:08

       ... you can't believe how fast those goddamn things are.

    10. AGAdam Greentree1:05:10

        Yeah, crazy, eh?

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:05:11

        And delicious.

    12. AGAdam Greentree1:05:12

        Yeah.

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:05:13

        You think it's a, it's, it's kind of a weird coincidence that the fastest animal you can hunt is also the most delicious.

    14. AGAdam Greentree1:05:19

        Yeah. Ah, totally, yeah.

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:05:20

        W- you know?

    16. AGAdam Greentree1:05:21

        Yeah, yeah.

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:05:22

        Like that's kind of weird.

    18. AGAdam Greentree1:05:23

        (laughs) Yeah, maybe-

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:05:24

        It's almost like a reward.

    20. AGAdam Greentree1:05:24

        ... maybe 'cause they are delicious-

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:05:26

        Yeah.

    22. AGAdam Greentree1:05:26

        ... they've learnt to move faster. I think a deer... So, you know, we say jump the string, like when you shoot.

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:05:30

        Yes.

    24. AGAdam Greentree1:05:30

        Like the deer hears the bow go off-

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:05:32

        Mm-hmm.

    26. AGAdam Greentree1:05:32

        ... or something like that and we call it jump the string which you'll know about this but a lot of people won't. They don't, actually don't jump out of the string. When they miss your arrow, they actually drop to bound away. So they-

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