Joe Rogan Experience #1225 - Theo Von

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   Well, you know, Alcoholics…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      Well, you know, Alcoholics Anonymous was created by a guy who was into LSD.

   2. TVTheo Von0:04

      Yeah, Bill W. A real-

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:08

      Jamie-

   4. TVTheo Von0:09

      ... baller.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:10

      Jamie, I'm gonna show you, through your sweater. And it's not a bad sweater- sweatshirt you're wearing. (coughs) It's very cool, but this is a- (coughs)

   6. JVJamie Vernon0:20

      Yeah, I know.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      ... this is a symptom of everything that's wrong.

   8. JVJamie Vernon0:24

      It's ... Go ahead.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:26

      (coughs)

   10. JVJamie Vernon0:26

       (laughs) Yeah, it does.

   11. TVTheo Von0:28

       Are we on yet?

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       Yeah, we're on. It's got fake short sleeves- (coughs) It's got fake short sleeves over long sleeves, so the, the short sleeves are sewed in.

   13. JVJamie Vernon0:38

       Not sewed. No, it's not sewed. It's not attached.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:40

       How's it worked, then? The sh- the short sleeves?

   15. JVJamie Vernon0:42

       It's just, it's just overtop. It comes apart.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       But this sleeve part-

   17. JVJamie Vernon0:45

       Yeah. It's not there. It's not attached at all. It's separate.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       So it's two pieces?

   19. JVJamie Vernon0:48

       Yeah. I didn't know that when I bought it either.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       But when you pull the sleeve up, what happens?

   21. JVJamie Vernon0:52

       Yeah, nothing. It can come off.

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:53

       Oh, it goes all the way over the top.

   23. JVJamie Vernon0:54

       Yeah, it's like a separate-

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:54

       Oh, I see.

   25. JVJamie Vernon0:55

       It's like a separate hood s- hooded sweatshirt.

   26. JRJoe Rogan0:56

       So do you wear the two of them together or are they-

   27. JVJamie Vernon0:58

       I just bought it.

   28. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       ... sewn on?

   29. JVJamie Vernon0:59

       I just bought it. There's a whole Rocky thing that this company did, had a whole bunch of pieces. And I was like, "Oh, that's kinda cool."

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       So, um-
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      other day. I was trying to give them the whole tour.

   2. TVTheo Von15:01

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:01

      Tell them how it used to be Ciro's Nightclub, Bugs-

   4. TVTheo Von15:04

      Took them downstairs.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:04

      ... and Seigler used to own it. I didn't take them all the way, but I showed them, you know, how you go through the back room of the, uh, main room. That that used to be like their hideout and shit.

   6. TVTheo Von15:15

      Mm-hmm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:15

      I told, I told them about all the ghost stories that have been filmed there. I don't believe it. I don't think it's real.

   8. TVTheo Von15:22

      Well, I think, I'm surprised we don't have more ghost animals.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:25

      You know what I think? I think it's you. This is what I think, for real. I think when you, I think you can probably tune in to something that happened in a place.

   10. TVTheo Von15:36

       Mm-hmm.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:37

       That's what I think. And I think if you trip yourself out, you could see things that aren't really there. And I think that it is entirely possible that ghosts aren't real, but that you seeing a ghost is real.

   12. TVTheo Von15:50

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:50

       That I think that you can get your body into, like, such a frenzied, terrified state-

   14. TVTheo Von15:56

       Mm-hmm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:56

       ... and if you are open to the idea-

   16. TVTheo Von15:58

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:58

       ... that a ghost is a real thing, your mind can fuck with you.

   18. TVTheo Von16:01

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:01

       Like The Ghetto Boys, your mind's playing tricks on you.

   20. TVTheo Von16:04

       Tricks on me. Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:04

       Yeah. That's what I think. I think legitimately, and I also think that if you, if you hit the right frequency, I bet you could pull up s- like a, just a ghost of a memory of someone getting killed in a place.

   22. TVTheo Von16:14

       Right.

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:14

       Or something horrible happening, just the ghost of an, a memory.

   24. TVTheo Von16:17

       Oh, I think that's next. That's one of the next things. You're gonna be able to do like a gang sign in the air, a special gang sign and then a fucking, the truth is gonna pop out right in front of you. Like, I think-

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:25

       Hmm.

   26. TVTheo Von16:25

       ... we're gonna start to learn-

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:27

       Like Harry Potter type shit?

   28. TVTheo Von16:28

       Yes. Or like maybe a song. What if this cer- uh, certain, like, playing of, uh, s- lyrics or, or notes in a row would reveal, like, the past right in front of you. Like, I wonder if there's some ma-

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:37

       Yeah.

   30. TVTheo Von16:37

       ... you know, magic little warp holes or something.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   (laughs) …

   1. TVTheo Von30:00

      I felt like.

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:01

      (laughs)

   3. TVTheo Von30:01

      You know? I didn't wanna bring that shit in the house really. But we would, uh, me and a buddy of mine, this dude Billy Conforto actually, and he passed away, RIP. And he died, he ate a bunch of pills and actually drove into an embankment one time, but-

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:13

      Ooh.

   5. TVTheo Von30:14

      It's time-

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:14

      A bad way to go.

   7. TVTheo Von30:15

      Oh yeah. Can you imagine?

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:17

      That's a bad way to go.

   9. TVTheo Von30:18

      And he, uh, but he was a busboy and I was a busboy. And he would, um, and yeah, we both liked to go to the gym, and he was like the first gay man that I ever met. And then he, um, you know, he one time h- he got us some steroids or something, I don't know. I think everybody was doing them. And then we just, yeah, we'd pull over and do them and then just go to the gym, you know.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:43

       (laughs)

   11. TVTheo Von30:43

       Dude, one time a guy in New York said, "I'm going to get some drugs in the middle of the night." He went and came back three hours later with steroids.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:48

       Whoa.

   13. TVTheo Von30:48

       He's like, "You wanna fucking party?"

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:50

       Wow. He was partying with steroids?

   15. TVTheo Von30:51

       I was like, "Fuck no, bro."

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:53

       (laughs)

   17. TVTheo Von30:54

       Fucking I'm leaving tomorrow.

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:54

       How long did you live in New York for?

   19. TVTheo Von30:56

       I was there for about eight months.

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:57

       How come?

   21. TVTheo Von30:58

       So I was just tr- kind of trying out the comedy scene there and seeing what it was like.

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:01

       Why'd you decide to leave?

   23. TVTheo Von31:02

       Mm...I don't know, I guess I just wanted like a new... Uh, here's what it was. I never wanted to get old and say that I didn't try it.

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:09

       To go to LA?

   25. TVTheo Von31:10

       To, to try New York.

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:11

       To, oh, oh, oh, I see. I see what you're saying.

   27. TVTheo Von31:13

       Right, to never have-

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:13

       Yeah.

   29. TVTheo Von31:13

       ... even just six months, even just to have like an experience there, you know?

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:17

       Well, it's a hotbed for sure. The, the two hotbeds right now are here and there.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Mm-hmm. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      of acting.

   2. TVTheo Von45:01

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:01

      And he told me that he blew a lot of straight guys. (laughs)

   4. TVTheo Von45:06

      Mm-hmm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:07

      He said that was just something that happened. They would have a couple of drinks, they'd pretend they've never done it before. And next thing you know, wa-wa.

   6. TVTheo Von45:14

      Yeah. I got that delicious mouth, that's what a lot of gay dudes say.

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:18

      (laughs)

   8. TVTheo Von45:18

      (exhales)

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:19

      It was either him doing them or them doing him. But he's like, "You'd be amazed at how many, you know, air quotes, straight guys are out there." I'm like, "Whoa."

   10. TVTheo Von45:27

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:28

       Maybe he just knows how to swing it.

   12. TVTheo Von45:30

       But would you, do you think-

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:32

       (laughs)

   14. TVTheo Von45:32

       ... is it less homosexual to jerk a guy off with your left hand? What, are you left-handed or right-handed?

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:39

       Right-handed.

   16. TVTheo Von45:39

       So yeah, if you jerk someone off with your left hand.

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:41

       It's, it's gayer to do it with my-

   18. TVTheo Von45:43

       Your right hand.

   19. JRJoe Rogan45:43

       It's gayer to do it with my left hand, the one that doesn't work as well, 'cause it'll take longer.

   20. TVTheo Von45:47

       Yeah, but you don't really have...

   21. JRJoe Rogan45:49

       (laughs)

   22. TVTheo Von45:49

       But it's understandable. I feel like it's understandable if you do it with your left hand because that's barely even your hand.

   23. JRJoe Rogan45:54

       No, it's my hand, bro.

   24. TVTheo Von45:56

       (laughs) Yeah, whoa, relax, man.

   25. JRJoe Rogan45:58

       I feel it.

   26. TVTheo Von45:58

       It's gonna be fine. You're not gonna feel that much of it, though.

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:00

       No, you should jerk them off with your right hand so you should be effective and get it done with unless you like holding onto dicks longer.

   28. TVTheo Von46:06

       Dude, I'm like-

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:07

       You're like, "Don't come yet. Don't come yet."

   30. TVTheo Von46:09

       (laughs)
5. 1:00:00 – 1:03:09

   Oh, yeah. Beautiful. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      androgenous stage.

   2. TVTheo Von1:00:01

      Oh, yeah. Beautiful.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:02

      Prince. Uh, I mean, you can go on and on and on about men. Like, the, d- fucking Mick Jagger. I mean, Mick Jagger would swing his hips and-

   4. TVTheo Von1:00:09

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:10

      ... puff his lips out.

   6. TVTheo Von1:00:12

      Elvis?

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:12

      Well, Elvis is more manly.

   8. TVTheo Von1:00:13

      Elvis stayed pretty straight.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:13

      That was a manly thing.

   10. TVTheo Von1:00:15

       But he wore women's clothing-

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:16

       More of a straight thing.

   12. TVTheo Von1:00:16

       ... and women's like, you know-

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:17

       How do you know?

   14. TVTheo Von1:00:18

       Stuff from like ...

   15. NANarrator1:00:19

       Oh.

   16. TVTheo Von1:00:20

       He wore stuff from like-

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:21

       Scarves and shit? Is that what you're saying?

   18. TVTheo Von1:00:22

       No, what's that women's clothing store that's in every like, little city?

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:25

       Victoria's Secrets?

   20. TVTheo Von1:00:26

       No, it's for like kind of more, you know-

   21. NANarrator1:00:28

       Lane Bryant.

   22. TVTheo Von1:00:29

       Lane Bryant.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:00:29

       Oh, he wore the big fat lady stuff?

   24. TVTheo Von1:00:30

       Well, I mean (laughs) it's, I mean he wore some-

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:00:33

       Is that what you're saying?

   26. TVTheo Von1:00:33

       (laughs) He wore some real sh-

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:00:34

       Is there a dude sh- a dude clothes store for fat guys?

   28. NANarrator1:00:36

       Big and Tall.

   29. TVTheo Von1:00:37

       Big and Tall, they call it.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:00:38

       Yeah, but that's like, some of them are tall, slender guys.

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