Joe Rogan Experience #1227 - Mike Tyson

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   Three, two, one. Boom!…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:02

      Three, two, one. Boom! And we're live.

   2. MTMike Tyson0:07

      What's happening, Joe?

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:08

      What's up, Mike? Tom Segura's in the house for a few minutes here too.

   4. TSTom Segura0:11

      What's up, man? Yeah, man.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      Stopped by to say hi. I can't believe you've never had a cup of coffee.

   6. MTMike Tyson0:15

      Never.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      You want some?

   8. MTMike Tyson0:16

      No. (laughs)

   9. TSTom Segura0:17

      That, that might be-

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:18

       I know. (laughs)

   11. TSTom Segura0:18

       ... that might be the most outrageous thing about you-

   12. MTMike Tyson0:20

       Yeah.

   13. TSTom Segura0:20

       ... is that you've never had coffee.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:22

       Your whole life you've never had coffee?

   15. MTMike Tyson0:23

       Never had coffee, no. D- just tea, never coffee.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       No one ever offered you a cup of coffee?

   17. MTMike Tyson0:29

       No, never.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       You never went to Starbucks?

   19. MTMike Tyson0:30

       Never. No, for tea, I had some donuts.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:32

       Wow.

   21. TSTom Segura0:33

       What about, like, at-

   22. MTMike Tyson0:33

       That was when you, um, when I was in, um, when I was, when you're in rehab, you always gotta go to Starbucks because the meeting's right outside at Starbucks. You always hang out at Starbucks and stuff.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       Right.

   24. MTMike Tyson0:43

       But never for coffee. Never had a cup-

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       You didn't wanna try it?

   26. MTMike Tyson0:45

       Never.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       Hm.

   28. TSTom Segura0:47

       That is, that... How about, like, like, girlfriends, wives? Like, none of them ever, like, ca- drank coffee at home?

   29. MTMike Tyson0:52

       I'm sure they have, but I never really. My wife drinks it.

   30. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       And you just, nothing?
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Oh, yeah. That'll do…

   1. TSTom Segura15:00

      wife, man. Uh-

   2. MTMike Tyson15:01

      Oh, yeah. That'll do it too.

   3. TSTom Segura15:01

      But they'll do it.

   4. GUGuest15:02

      (laughs)

   5. TSTom Segura15:03

      Um, I read one time... 'Cause... All right, so for people that know, I- I met Mike on a flight and it was a surreal experience. You know, like, from- from being a kid and thinking like, "This is s- Superman." That's what I thought as a kid. I- it's just- you know what I mean? Like, seeing those-

   6. GUGuest15:18

      Yeah.

   7. TSTom Segura15:18

      When you see it as a kid too, I think it's different, like, you're just like, "Whoa, that is so nuts." Like, these 11-second knockouts and shit.

   8. MTMike Tyson15:24

      And you know what's so bizarre? Periodically, even to this day, people come up to me and talk about the experience they had. They saw him and he talked about meeting me. He said, "Is that true?"

   9. GUGuest15:32

      (laughs)

   10. TSTom Segura15:33

       (laughs)

   11. MTMike Tyson15:34

       All the time, right?

   12. GUGuest15:35

       It's on a special. It's on Whis- it's on, uh, it's on most of the stories.

   13. TSTom Segura15:38

       It's on Whisperer stories.

   14. MTMike Tyson15:38

       People ask me, "Is that true?"

   15. GUGuest15:39

       Yeah, mostly stories.

   16. MTMike Tyson15:40

       "Did you meet him?"

   17. TSTom Segura15:41

       And it was, uh- it was a surreal experience and- and, you know, we spoke on the plane. And- and then, like, when I thought we were done talking, you know, I- I faced forward and then he came back and, like, tapped me on the shoulder. I was like, "Oh, shit."

   18. GUGuest15:52

       (laughs)

   19. TSTom Segura15:53

       Like, Mike's talking to me, I'm down here, like, seatbelt- seatbelted in. But then we land and- and he was like, "Oh, where's your show?" And- and- and I go, "Oh, here, it's here." I give him the number. Never expect to hear. Hits me up the next day and he's like, "We're coming to your show." And I was like, "Oh, my God." And I really did say, like, "I'm amazed that you're coming." And he said, "It's all love." And I just said, "I love you."

   20. GUGuest16:15

       (laughs)

   21. MTMike Tyson16:15

       (laughs)

   22. TSTom Segura16:15

       'Cause I didn't know how to- how to... what to say.

   23. GUGuest16:19

       (laughs) (claps hands)

   24. MTMike Tyson16:19

       (laughs)

   25. TSTom Segura16:19

       And then-

   26. MTMike Tyson16:19

       That was good. That was cool.

   27. TSTom Segura16:21

       ... he was like- he was all... He's like, "All right, man."

   28. MTMike Tyson16:22

       (laughs)

   29. TSTom Segura16:22

       And then hung up the phone.

   30. GUGuest16:24

       (laughs)
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Yeah, tell me, what…

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      classic rock for whatever reason. But, uh, I've been listening to a lot of Kanye West over the last few weeks.

   2. MTMike Tyson30:04

      Yeah, tell me, what is he talking about?

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:06

      Kanye?

   4. MTMike Tyson30:06

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:07

      Well, he's talking about a lot of crazy shit. He's talk- he actually talked about DMT in one of his recent songs.

   6. MTMike Tyson30:11

      Really? You think he did that before?

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:13

      I think he did.

   8. MTMike Tyson30:14

      Oh, man.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:15

      Well, I know he's friends with Kid Cudi and Kid Cudi's been in here and Kid Cudi's had some psychedelic experiences.

   10. MTMike Tyson30:21

       Yeah. Once you go there, it's just, um, you don't want to do nothing else again.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:26

       (laughs) Well, it puts it all into perspective.... it lets you see that, uh, a- as much as this thing seems to be important,, this is all temporary-

   12. MTMike Tyson30:34

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:34

       ... and you're a part of forever. And-

   14. MTMike Tyson30:36

       And it also allows you to become, um, comfortable with death.

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:40

       Yeah. Yeah, you know who said that? Larry Hagman.

   16. MTMike Tyson30:43

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:43

       Remember that guy, Dallas?

   18. MTMike Tyson30:44

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:44

       From, uh, JR from Dallas?

   20. MTMike Tyson30:46

       JR from Dallas.

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:46

       He did an interview with CNN once.

   22. MTMike Tyson30:48

       And, and, I Dream of Jeannie as well.

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:49

       Yeah, that's right. He sprung it on him on CNN once, he was talking about how he did acid. He took a big dose of acid and he's never worried about death ever again. That it just r- alleviated his, his worry about passing on.

   24. MTMike Tyson31:03

       That's wild. See, that's 'cause I felt the same way. I said, "Well, it doesn't matter anymore."

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:06

       Yeah. I think DMT even more specifically, because they think-

   26. MTMike Tyson31:10

       Yo, why's that have to effect the mind that way?

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:13

       ... it might be-

   28. MTMike Tyson31:13

       What causes it to effect the mind that way?

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:14

       They don't totally know.

   30. MTMike Tyson31:16

       Tells you how to, how to make a vision like-
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Yeah, that's why she…

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      imagine if I was a mother, it would be very hard to get high because I'd get paranoid. You know, I'd be like-

   2. MTMike Tyson45:04

      Yeah, that's why she doesn't do it during the day.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:06

      Yeah. At nighttime, it's different. Smoke a little weed, relax.

   4. MTMike Tyson45:10

      Hey, how- did you ever do any fighting?

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:12

      I did kickboxing and TaeKwonDo tournaments.

   6. MTMike Tyson45:15

      Tell me about that.

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:15

      I was, uh... I was pretty good at TaeKwonDo. I won a bunch of state championships.

   8. MTMike Tyson45:20

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:20

      And I won a few, few national tournaments.

   10. MTMike Tyson45:23

       When did you know you wanted to get physical with another human being and do this stuff? 'Cause, you know, you can't be in right frame of mind to want to do this stuff.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:29

       No.

   12. MTMike Tyson45:29

       You gotta realize that.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:30

       I was, uh, very scared.

   14. MTMike Tyson45:31

       People that do this stuff are not in the right frame of mind.

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:33

       Yeah.

   16. MTMike Tyson45:34

       And that's... Dealing with fear drives you insane.

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:36

       Yeah.

   18. MTMike Tyson45:36

       To deal with that drives people insane. I was insane during my career. Just madly insane from fear.

   19. JRJoe Rogan45:42

       Yeah. Obviously, I never went through anything like the level that you went through. But for these full contact TaeKwonDo fights, I was always scared, and, uh... But I was scared before that. I was bullied.

   20. MTMike Tyson45:52

       (sighs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan45:52

       I moved around a lot. I was a little kid. I was never very big. And we moved from New Jersey to San Francisco when I was seven, from San Francisco to Florida when I was 11, Florida to Boston when I was 14 or 13. So it's just always moving to new schools-

   22. MTMike Tyson46:08

       (sighs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan46:08

       ... always dealing with new kids, and I wasn't big, and I didn't know how to fight, and I got picked on, and I didn't like it. So I said, "I wanna... I wanna figure out how to fight." And so I started getting into martial arts, and I just became obsessed with it. I did it every day. I started teaching. I was teaching at Boston University. I was teaching a TaeKwonDo course when I was 19. I was competing from the time I was 15. I just threw myself into it. That's all I did every day. I worked at the school. I was there every day. I had the keys. I closed up, I opened up. But where I... And because of you, because of hearing about you when you... when you were running in the morning, when you knew that everybody else was asleep, that gave you an edge. I'd go there in the middle of the night and open up and work out. I just wanted to just have an edge, you know. And I listened to what you said, and I said, "That's a great way to have an edge." I became obsessed with it, but there was n- no future in it. And then (sighs) what happened was I went from TaeKwonDo to kickboxing. And when I started kickboxing, I started getting fucked up.

   24. MTMike Tyson46:59

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:59

       Dudes were beating the shit out of me because I was realizing, like, I can't keep people at the same distance anymore because I didn't know how to use my hands properly. Like, I knew how to throw some punches a little bit from TaeKwonDo, but it's not nearly sophisticated as boxing or kickboxing. And so then I started kickboxing training, and then I started realizing, like, "Uh, there's no future in this. Like, what am I doing?"

   26. MTMike Tyson47:17

       Mm-hmm.

   27. JRJoe Rogan47:17

       "I'm just getting my brains beat in, you know." And I'm, uh, hard sparring too. The sparring was rough. It was Boston style, put the gloves on, beat the shit out of each other. Figure it out as you go along.

   28. MTMike Tyson47:28

       Yeah, you ain't gonna learn shit.

   29. JRJoe Rogan47:29

       (laughs)

   30. MTMike Tyson47:29

       You figure it out as you go along.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:03:07

   I don't know what…

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      Is he gonna hang out with you for a while?

   2. MTMike Tyson1:00:01

      I don't know what he's gonna do.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:02

      He's gotta. He's gotta hang out with you.

   4. MTMike Tyson1:00:06

      Should be pretty awesome.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:07

      He's gotta hang out with you. You gotta absorb it, right?

   6. MTMike Tyson1:00:11

      Yeah. See how that works out.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:12

      Are you gonna be, like, his consultant? Are you gonna be like, "Bitch, I would've never said that"?

   8. MTMike Tyson1:00:16

      I would like to say that, yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:18

      (laughs) .

   10. MTMike Tyson1:00:18

       I would like to be a consultant. But for, but for some reason, they just, um, they have their Hollywood ways of doing things.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:25

       Yeah.

   12. MTMike Tyson1:00:26

       You know what I mean?

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:27

       Yeah.

   14. MTMike Tyson1:00:27

       They make it come out Hollywood-ish, I guess.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:29

       Yeah.

   16. MTMike Tyson1:00:30

       'Cause some things that, um ... It's just, it's just really wild how they, they try to switch it to appear, um, presentable.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:37

       Right. Yeah, they try to change the story.

   18. MTMike Tyson1:00:40

       And, and know what else I realized, too? With a Hollywood perspective, some things are real, they're just, it's just still unbelievable.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:47

       Yeah, by itself.

   20. MTMike Tyson1:00:48

       Some of th- yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:00:48

       Yeah.

   22. MTMike Tyson1:00:48

       Some things are really, it's unbelievable.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:00:50

       Yeah. W- do you know that movie Foxcatcher? Did you know that movie?

   24. MTMike Tyson1:00:52

       Yeah, the wrestling movie.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:00:53

       Yeah. Mm-hmm.

   26. MTMike Tyson1:00:54

       I remember that story of the young guy. I remember that.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:00:56

       Yeah. That guy-

   28. MTMike Tyson1:00:58

       The pureheart guy, right?

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:00:58

       ... Mark Schultz ... It was Dave Schultz and Mark Schultz.

   30. MTMike Tyson1:01:01

       Yeah, the wrestler. Two brothers.

Episode duration: 1:27:16