Joe Rogan Experience #1229 - Richard Rawlings

Joe Rogan 0:04 Three, two, one, boom. And we're live. What's happening? How are you?

Richard Rawlings 0:08 What's... Hi, man. I am just stoked to be here.

Joe Rogan 0:10 I'm stoked to have you here, man. It's a pleasure to meet you. I love your show.

Richard Rawlings 0:13 Thank you.

Joe Rogan 0:14 It's fun. It's a fun fucking car show.

Richard Rawlings 0:16 It really is, man. I tell-

Joe Rogan 0:17 It is.

Richard Rawlings 0:17 I tell people I might be the smartest guy in the world. I figured out how to drink beer and play with cars and get paid for it. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:22 (laughs) Yeah, but it's like, it's a fun show. It's like, you, you're not taking yourself too seriously, you're having a good time, you know, you're buying and selling awesome cars.

Richard Rawlings 0:31 Oh, yeah, for sure. It's, uh, it, it was a dream of mine to get it done. It took eight years to, uh, get it sold, but here we are now.

Joe Rogan 0:39 Did it really?

Richard Rawlings 0:39 Yeah, I started this, I started pitching the show in 2004, and we didn't start til, uh, 2008, or 2012.

Joe Rogan 0:46 What were you doing before that?

Richard Rawlings 0:48 Uh, before television, or-

Joe Rogan 0:50 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 0:50 ... before Gas Monkey?

Joe Rogan 0:50 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 0:51 Uh, I kinda had two stages in life. I was a firefighter, police officer, and medic before I was old enough to drink. I mean, I'm talking 19 years old, carrying a gun. Probably wasn't the smartest thing for them to let me do. And then, um-

Joe Rogan 1:02 They gonna let you have a beer when you were 19?

Richard Rawlings 1:04 I had a badge. I was a cop. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:07 (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 1:07 I mean, literally, I was a police officer and, uh, so by the time I was 20 I was also a firefighter and, uh... So I did that for a while, and then, uh, moved into printing and advertising, and, uh, then sold that and got into this.

Joe Rogan 1:21 So was it just like something you were just always into cars and that's what led you to the show?

Richard Rawlings 1:26 You know, how would I tell the story diplomatically? Um, realistically, I was watching the shows that were on TV at the time. I've always been a car nut and a motorcycle guy, and what have you, and I realized one night that my kids are never in the room watching it, and my wife's not in the room watching it, you know? And, uh, the shows that we're on were a little bit too much bravado. And, and I'm a tough guy, and, you know, so I dug it and all my buddies dug it, but their wives and stuff and I was like, "Golly, they're missing a big chunk of the market here. If you could tone down that part of it a little bit, and still have a cool brand, and still be a cool guy, you know, and get the moms and the kids in the room, hopefully it's a lot more successful." And so that's-

Joe Rogan 2:06 Mm.

Richard Rawlings 2:06 That was kinda where the idea came from and I just went out and started it.

Joe Rogan 2:10 That's interesting. So the marketing side of you kicked in?

Richard Rawlings 2:13 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 2:14 So the marketing side of you went, "Oh, I think there's another way to do this."

Richard Rawlings 2:17 Yeah, I mean, I'm still a tattooed guy with some jewelry, but you know, I got a pit bull on a... (laughs) I got a poodle on a leash, not a pit bull on a chain, you know? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:26 (laughs) Well, the show, it doesn't seem compromised, that's what's interesting about it, 'cause it seems like a, a kind of a guy show. I never thought about it that way.

Richard Rawlings 2:33 Well, the way I approached it was just like when I was a kid and my dad had a garage. Uh, uh, not a, you know, not open for public garage, but he had a place that we kept his car and the neighbors would come over and they'd tinker and they'd drink beer, and that's what car guys do. So we kinda took that approach of that's what Gas Monkey does, we just drink some beer and play with some cars and goof around. It's just like Saturday afternoon, but all week long.

Joe Rogan 2:56 Did you have any of a background in, in, uh, automobile knowledge? Did you know like how to fix things? Or did you-

Richard Rawlings 3:04 Yeah, I've never really been the full fabricator. Uh, you know, I understand everything and how it works, but I'm probably more of a business guy. Uh, so I was able to go out and hire good guys to, to do the, the fabricating stuff, and we've got a great team. But I did have the car knowledge, and I, and I had, you know, I had the eyeball for what was good and keeping up with what was gonna be happening and things like that. And that's kinda my strong suit, is saying, "Okay, Porsches are fixed to be popular so we're gonna get into 356s, or Broncos like the one you drove that is, you know, or what have you." And I keep my eye on the market.

Joe Rogan 3:36 That's interesting. So you're... But you still do keep your eye on the market? I saw that '68 that you have outside, the '68 Chevelle.

Richard Rawlings 3:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:42 '68, is that what it is?

Richard Rawlings 3:43 '68 convertible.

Joe Rogan 3:44 Goddamn, that's a nice car.

Richard Rawlings 3:45 It's a good... It's probably the best one I've ever seen. I mean, from an original standpoint.

Joe Rogan 3:50 Yeah, it's mint. I mean, it's got little scuffs on it, it's, it's driven, you know, but it's, it's in perfect condition and doesn't have any dents or anything wrong with it.

Richard Rawlings 3:57 It is literally a little old lady from Pasadena. I mean, the lady bought it brand new and she passed away a couple years ago and I bought it from her grandson.

Joe Rogan 4:05 Wow, what a cliché.

Richard Rawlings 4:06 52,000 original miles and, uh, never been wrecked, never been-

Joe Rogan 4:10 Old lady from Pasadena is a cliché. (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 4:12 I know, right? (laughs) It was technically Pomona, but you know, same shit. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:16 Wow, yeah, that car, those, uh... I mean, I've said this on the show a million times, I'm a giant fan of like the, the time period of 1965 to somewhere around like '71, they fell apart.

Richard Rawlings 4:28 Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:28 You know? Like you still get a '71 Challenger or a '71 Barracuda that's still pretty sweet.

Richard Rawlings 4:32 For sure. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:33 But then you get into like '72, '73...

Richard Rawlings 4:36 They had to start putting the big bumpers on there with the shocks-

Joe Rogan 4:40 Everything, yeah, with those-

Richard Rawlings 4:40 ... and everything just got ugly.

Joe Rogan 4:41 (groans) It just fell apart.

Richard Rawlings 4:42 Then you got the gas crunch and then everything got four cylinders, and it was, it was a bad time in the late '70s for sure.

Joe Rogan 4:49 It was a bad time, but it's a good time now. It's a really interesting, really interesting time now for muscle cars. It's, the race is so crazy that they're putting out street legal cars you can buy from a dealer with 700 plus horsepower and almost every dealer has one now.

Richard Rawlings 5:05 Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, I've got a Demon myself. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:07 It's just crazy.

Richard Rawlings 5:08 And that's 808 horsepower. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:09 That's fucking crazy. Now the new GT500 is out and that's gonna have over 700 horsepower.

Richard Rawlings 5:14 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 5:14 You know, you have the, the Camaro L, uh, the, um, what is it? 1LE? It's the... No. What? What is it? LT1 1LE? No, what the, what the fuck is the name of the-

Richard Rawlings 5:27 It's something like that.

Joe Rogan 5:27 ZL1 1LE.

Richard Rawlings 5:29 ZL, yeah, that's it.

Joe Rogan 5:30 Yeah, ZL1 1LE, which is 650 horsepower, and then the new, uh, ZR1, that's 750 horsepower. They're just preposterous.

Richard Rawlings 5:39 Oh, it's, it's, uh, I think (laughs) it could be a little dangerous, you know, with everybody out there thinking, "Hey, I can drive a 700 horsepower car," because it's, it's completely different than, you know, a normal one.

Joe Rogan 5:49 Well, did you see the video of the guy from, um, one of the head guys at GM who took it on a track like one of the first days they were releasing the car and he spun out on the first turn and slammed into the wall? (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 6:00 (laughs) Well, I can't say much, I wrecked a brand new Hellcat the other day racing at Woodward. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:04 Did you really?

Richard Rawlings 6:04 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:05 Oh, no.

Richard Rawlings 6:05 I went to Woodward Dream Cruise and they had a little celebrity match up and I was racing, uh, and just lost it and hit the wall, took out the whole side of the car. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:14 Were you on a track or were you on a strip?

Richard Rawlings 6:17 It was a street track, uh, that they had right there on Woodward Avenue. So they put up the blocks and you take off.

Joe Rogan 6:24 Yikes.

Richard Rawlings 6:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:25 Yeah. Those, uh, those Hellcats are beautiful but they're not, they're not that great at cornering. They're s- still a giant car.

Richard Rawlings 6:31 It's a big car.

Joe Rogan 6:32 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 6:32 Mustang and Camaro are gonna do better in the corners, for sure.

Joe Rogan 6:35 Yeah. The, the Hellcat has so much front, there's so much out in front. I mean, it really does remind you more than any of those other cars though, of those 1970 cars. You know, it really has that sh- that shape is more icon- Like if you look at a 1969 Camaro and then you look at a 2019 Camaro, you're like, "Uh."

Richard Rawlings 6:53 I don't see it. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:53 That's not the same thing. But a Challenger really does look like that oldcar.

Richard Rawlings 6:58 Well, Kim- uh, Tim Kuniskis killed it. I mean, that was his whole passion project, uh, whole time he was running Dodge and he just absolutely nailed it.

Joe Rogan 7:05 Yeah, no they did. They made a great looking modern muscle car. The other ones are just great looking cars. I mean, they, they are still muscle cars but they don't really think, you don't really think about the old days when you see 'em.

Richard Rawlings 7:17 No, they've tried but they didn't-

Joe Rogan 7:19 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 7:19 ... get it as good as Dodge.

Joe Rogan 7:20 Now, you guys make some fucking great builds too, you know, you guys have done some really sweet custom builds. Like, y- you were telling me outside that the longest you do a build for is 25 days.

Richard Rawlings 7:32 Uh, we've got it down to about 25 from 32-ish when we started. Uh, so when you see a car on the show, um, if it's a single episode, th- then we built that car in 25, 26 days.

Joe Rogan 7:43 That's crazy.

Richard Rawlings 7:44 Start to finish, paint, interior, everything.

Joe Rogan 7:46 How do you do it so quick?

Richard Rawlings 7:47 Uh, a lot of planning and, and we've learned over seven years now and 130 of 'em, that, um, you know, we've just got our process in, and the crew that I have at the shop now is unbelievably phenomenal. And there's only six guys doing it. There's six guys that do it, 25 days we're done.

Joe Rogan 8:04 That's insane. But what about like if you're gonna do like a custom suspension or, you know, Art Mor- Morrison chassis or something like that?

Richard Rawlings 8:11 It just takes some planning. So literally what we do is we build the car three times. This is what I tell everybody. We'll say, "Okay, we're gonna build this '68 Chevelle." Uh, and so we decide how we're gonna build it and what kind of parts we're gonna use, what kind of suspension, wheels, motor. We, we put all that down on paper and then if it works mathematically for the project we wanna do, then, um, I go find the car. Then when I find the car, we order every single part, and we don't start that car until every single thing that was on that list is in house, has been checked, and we're ready to go.

Joe Rogan 8:42 Mm.

Richard Rawlings 8:43 So now all we've got is actual fabrication time and human error, and we're ready to go.

Joe Rogan 8:48 Still seems like such a short amount of time. I mean, all the builds that I've seen take seven months, nine months, a year.

Richard Rawlings 8:54 It's just the shops are set up differently. Uh, it may be one or two guys, or maybe they've got kind of, you know, assembly programs going on or what have you. But we get in there like... You'll love the one we're building right now. Uh, we're building a '77 International Scout and, uh, started with a really nice one, orange, white stripes, plaid interior. I mean, the whole ball of wax. Whack the, the, uh, chassis out from under it, put in a full Chris Austin, uh, Chassis Works chassis with, uh, only two-wheel drive, and it's all 2018 Hellcat eight-speed automatic-

Joe Rogan 9:25 Oh, Jesus.

Richard Rawlings 9:26 ... in it and slammed on the ground. But it's still a removable top and what... It was a great California truck, I can guarantee you that.

Joe Rogan 9:31 Oh, wow. So you made it s- so you lowered it?

Richard Rawlings 9:33 Yeah, we're calling it the Hell Scout.

Joe Rogan 9:35 Ah. (laughs) Wow, that's pretty badass.

Richard Rawlings 9:38 It, it's gonna be a wicked car.

Joe Rogan 9:40 Yeah, those, uh, Hellcat chassis, um, uh, D- D- Jonathan Ward, the same guy who's doing this, his, uh, who d- who did my Bronco, the Icon.

Richard Rawlings 9:50 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 9:50 They're doing that with, uh, one of the, I think it's a Superbird. Uh, one of th- one of those iconic Mopars-

Richard Rawlings 9:58 Yep.

Joe Rogan 9:59 ... from the, the late '60s, early '70s. They're doing a full Hellcat chassis and the whole deal with that.

Richard Rawlings 10:04 Oh, really?

Joe Rogan 10:05 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 10:05 That'd be wicked.

Joe Rogan 10:06 Yeah. Um, what, what company was the first one to really get stupid with these cars? I guess it was kind of Corvette with the ZR1 with horsepower figures.

Richard Rawlings 10:15 Yeah, for sure. Corvette got, stepped out there with the ZR1 and started cranking it up. Uh, everybody was kinda in production. You had s- you had the resurgence of, uh, Shelby.

Joe Rogan 10:24 Yeah, there it is. There's Jonathan Ward's-

Richard Rawlings 10:26 Wow.

Joe Rogan 10:27 Look at that thing.

Richard Rawlings 10:28 That's good looking.

Joe Rogan 10:29 That is like literally like trying to have a block, like a city block on wheels, that you take around a corner. Look how long that goddamn thing is. (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 10:39 Yeah, that's gonna be a fresh car.

Joe Rogan 10:40 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 10:40 For sure.

Joe Rogan 10:41 Badass. He does some awesome shit over there too. He's, uh, he's doing some... Well, he's doing one that I don't think he can talk about. I think he's, he's keeping it under wraps but he's got a bunch of cool shit.

Richard Rawlings 10:50 Yeah, for sure.

Joe Rogan 10:51 Have you ever been there?

Richard Rawlings 10:52 I have not, but-

Joe Rogan 10:52 It's right down the street.

Richard Rawlings 10:53 I know.

Joe Rogan 10:54 Go visit afterwards.

Richard Rawlings 10:55 We might. I, I don't think I'm gonna make-

Joe Rogan 10:57 I'll call him up.

Richard Rawlings 10:57 ... my flight.

Joe Rogan 10:57 When's your flight?

Richard Rawlings 10:58 I don't know.

Joe Rogan 10:59 (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 11:00 I got a c- I got a couple of them are on hold. Notice I said, did it say I d- I, I got a couple are on hold because I don't think I make enough money for a plane yet. Gonna have to talk to Disco on that.

Joe Rogan 11:08 What, uh, like a private plane? Is that what you're saying?

Richard Rawlings 11:10 Yeah, I don't... I mean, we're all-

Joe Rogan 11:12 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 11:12 ... scrambling for something. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:14 Yeah, that's the ultimate scramble, the private jet money. But that, that is just so much fucking money. That's, that seems pretty ridiculous.

Richard Rawlings 11:19 It is a little ridiculous.

Joe Rogan 11:20 Yeah. You know-

Richard Rawlings 11:21 But I'd like to have a tricked out one, Gas Monkey on it, with big old monkey on the tail. You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 11:27 Gas Monkey, with a, with a keg in it somewhere.

Richard Rawlings 11:28 Oh, yeah. For sure.

Joe Rogan 11:31 (laughs) Now when you do these shows and you bargain people down and then they watch the show, do people ever get pissed?

Richard Rawlings 11:38 I've had a few.

Joe Rogan 11:39 (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 11:39 Um, and, uh, in the first, uh, uh, first few years they were just excited, you know, that we were gonna be doing something with the car and, and there's always a element of, uh, of, uh, sentiment to it, you know, It was their dads or-

Joe Rogan 11:53 Right.

Richard Rawlings 11:53 ... it was their moms or grandmas or whatever and they wanna see it go to a good home. So you got several different kind of people. They, they're wanting you to not do anything or, "If you're gonna fix it up, we wanna see it." You know, all kinds of things like that but-... nowadays, it's, it's a little more harder for me to get a decent deal because (laughs) it's-

Narrator 12:09 'Cause you're the-

Joe Rogan 12:10 No.

Richard Rawlings 12:10 ... the success of the show and I show up and they're like, "Oh, you're that guy on TV." "No, I didn't say 10,000. I said 13." You know? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:18 Ah, yeah, yeah. Well, I would imagine when people see what you sell them for after you fix them up, then they get a little upset.

Richard Rawlings 12:24 Yeah. They can. But I mean, they don't understand the amount of work and time and money that we've put into it. Most of the cars that we're building on the show now, we're putting at least 100 grand in and sometimes as much as 300.

Joe Rogan 12:35 Really?

Richard Rawlings 12:35 You know, I mean, we're building... Everything we're building now, this is... When the new season comes out in June, people are gonna be amazed 'cause, you know, we're building this kind of stuff.

Joe Rogan 12:45 Wow.

Richard Rawlings 12:45 And, uh, it's wicked cool.

Joe Rogan 12:47 And you're doing that in 25 days?

Richard Rawlings 12:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:49 Fuck, man.

Richard Rawlings 12:50 Just put together a good plan and execute it.

Joe Rogan 12:52 Well, it must be-

Richard Rawlings 12:53 (sniffs) .

Joe Rogan 12:53 ... like, a thing now because of the show that people want to get a Gas Monkey built car.

Richard Rawlings 12:58 They do, but, um, how would I say this diplomatically? If it weren't for employees, vendors and customers, business would be great. So-

Joe Rogan 13:07 (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 13:07 (laughs) ... we, we, uh, we don't do a lot for the, the customer, uh, uh, until we've built it for ourselves, and then we sell it to them. But as far as coming in off the street, we just like building what we want to build, honing our skills, and then we find a buyer. Every-

Joe Rogan 13:22 That's smart.

Richard Rawlings 13:23 ... once in a while, I'll have a guy come in and go, "Look, I can... This is what I want, but I can... I won't call you. I won't come in there with a new steering wheel." You know?

Joe Rogan 13:31 Mm.

Richard Rawlings 13:31 It's like, it gets... That's why a lot of times cars do take seven months or a year or-

Joe Rogan 13:36 Right.

Richard Rawlings 13:37 ... whatever, 'cause the, the guy that's having his built is in there every other weekend going, "Oh, I don't know, maybe we move this over here and paint it purple." And-

Joe Rogan 13:43 Oh.

Richard Rawlings 13:44 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:45 Yeah. I get it. Yeah. No, it does seem like it would be way better to just build it how you like it and then sell it.

Richard Rawlings 13:51 Well, yeah. I mean, it's still a business decision. I'm trying to-

Joe Rogan 13:53 Right.

Richard Rawlings 13:53 ... build it to where I think it's gonna do the most, you know, the most money at the end of the day and stay true with, uh, what's going on as far as that particular car and what's going on in the marketplace and technology and what have you. Um, and we do get a lot of calls where people come in and they go, "Okay, I want that exact same thing."

Joe Rogan 14:11 Mm.

Richard Rawlings 14:11 You know, and so we'll build another one.

Joe Rogan 14:13 Well, sometimes you, you do buy cars-

Richard Rawlings 14:15 (coughs) .

Joe Rogan 14:15 ... and then just sell them without doing anything to it, right?

Richard Rawlings 14:18 Yeah. Uh, that's what we call our B stories, you know-

Joe Rogan 14:21 Right.

Richard Rawlings 14:21 ... we'll buy something, bring it in, maybe just put some wheels on it or whatever, but usually it's just clean it up, get it running, sell somebody else the dream because not everybody can afford a fully built car, right?

Joe Rogan 14:31 Right.

Richard Rawlings 14:31 And or they want to do it themselves, so we get them a good project.

Joe Rogan 14:34 Yeah, I don't think people realize how much money is involved in a fully built car.

Richard Rawlings 14:38 Ridiculous. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:39 Like, uh, have you ever seen those Revology Mustangs?

Richard Rawlings 14:42 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 14:42 I was looking at those last night. A pretty intensive build, really, really interesting stuff. This guy, Tae, it's, it's essentially not really a Mustang. I mean, it's kind of licensed by Ford.

Richard Rawlings 14:54 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 14:54 It looks exactly like a Mustang and has all Mustang parts, but he's, he's got everything new, like-

Richard Rawlings 14:59 It's just brand new, like a, just like a brand new, you know, SUV you take the kids to soccer in (laughs) .

Joe Rogan 15:03 Yeah, yeah.

Richard Rawlings 15:04 Except really fast and fun to drive. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 15:06 A 1966, you know, '65, '66, like, he's got a GT350 that's, uh, it's not really a '66 GT350. Every part of it, all the fenders, everything, it's all newly fabricated steel.

Richard Rawlings 15:19 Yeah. We're gonna do that this season too, where, uh, I'm gonna build a car back to original, like a 60... I haven't decided if we're going to do a Mustang or if we're gonna do a Camaro, but, uh-

Joe Rogan 15:27 Hey, there's this guy's cars. I mean, come the fuck on. That is-

Richard Rawlings 15:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:30 ... beautiful.

Richard Rawlings 15:32 Well, we're gonna build one that never existed.

Joe Rogan 15:34 Look how pretty that goddamn thing is.

Richard Rawlings 15:36 He's killing it.

Joe Rogan 15:36 I wanna see what one of those things is like in real life. He, he's even got push button start, you know, um, it, it senses when you're near the, uh, the car so it'll unlock for you. But it's the just, it seems like it's super high quality build too. I mean, look, look how fucking pretty that is.

Richard Rawlings 15:55 Well, the trick is, is how much work goes into it, because-

Joe Rogan 15:59 Mm-hmm.

Richard Rawlings 15:59 ... yes, they do make these parts aftermarket and what have you, but a lot of times that's not the best stuff in the world. So you end up fabricating that and massaging it in and making all the gaps right and what have you.

Joe Rogan 16:09 Right.

Richard Rawlings 16:09 So you can't just expect that you're gonna buy a, set of new, you know, a new front end and fenders and hood and everything-

Joe Rogan 16:16 Right.

Richard Rawlings 16:16 ... that's gonna work out perfect. You're gonna always have to massage it and get it right.

Joe Rogan 16:19 Well, I've been paying attention to this guy for a while, and essentially what he's been doing is honing the process over the last few years, and he's got, uh, a company now that makes, I think it's called Dynacorp that makes, uh, all the parts.

Richard Rawlings 16:31 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 16:32 They make everything in, in terms of, like, the bodies.

Richard Rawlings 16:34 Body, body stands, yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:36 Yeah. And, you know, he's got his whole process down, but, you know, like, when you watch him drive the cars, it seems like he's... I mean, it, it sounds perfect, like everything inside of it seems like completely locked down, no squeaks or rattles. It's really like a modern car.

Richard Rawlings 16:52 For sure. A- and, uh, there's a lot of shops that do an amazing job at doing that stuff.

Joe Rogan 16:57 That's what I like. When a... What I don't like... I mean, I like the way they look. If I look at, like, an old, like, a '67 GT500, I like the way they look, but if you try to hit the brakes on one of those things or if you try to make a turn with those old tires, like, everything's fucking that skinny and, you know, the balance is all wonky.

Richard Rawlings 17:17 Yup.

Joe Rogan 17:17 It's like 1967 car balance.

Richard Rawlings 17:20 We get a lot of that. Uh, I've built a few cars for, like, compe- uh, for, uh, contests.

Joe Rogan 17:25 Mm-hmm.

Richard Rawlings 17:25 And somebody will win and they're like, "Oh, I won this car," and, and then they're like, "It's, this is horrible." You know?

Joe Rogan 17:30 (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 17:30 I'm like, "That's because it's a stock '65 Mustang." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 17:33 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 17:33 Which (laughs) , you know, and, uh, what have you, 'cause, uh, you know, if you don't realize what you're buying, then yeah, it can be a disappointing process.

Joe Rogan 17:40 Yeah, those old cars, man, I mean, we've come a long way. It's, it's pretty amazing. If you go back from, you know, a 1970 car to a 2019 car and you drive it and you hit the brakes and you do all the numbers, like, stopping 60 to zero and handling. I mean, the cars of today are pretty ridiculous.

Richard Rawlings 17:58 It is absolutely amazing the technology that's out and the fact that we can use that technology so much easier. I mean, you can build these kind of cars or anything you dream up because you can literally do it right here with your, you know, your Google in your pocket. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:10 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 18:11 Okay, I want to do this and this and what have you. So it ends up being, um...... eh, the cars that we're putting out are, are definitely just like a brand new car.

Joe Rogan 18:19 Yeah, but it's, uh, it's a really interesting time too, for r- resto mods, you know, because so many people are, are into that now. They realize that, uh, they, they like the looks of those old cars, but they're not really into the way they drove.

Richard Rawlings 18:31 Correct. Everybody's about comfort and Bluetooth and, you know, all that kind of stuff. So, uh, I'm not really that way. I'm a '32 Ford nut, and I kinda like cars the way that they more or less came out. I mean, I'm all for maybe some disc brakes or safety or whatever, but I like the squeaking and having to learn how to drive it and figure it out and-

Joe Rogan 18:49 The character of it.

Richard Rawlings 18:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:51 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 18:51 I don't-

Joe Rogan 18:51 Manual transmissions.

Richard Rawlings 18:52 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 18:53 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 18:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:54 How m- how much longer before the manual's dead?

Richard Rawlings 18:57 I think it's already got the nails in the coffin. Um-

Joe Rogan 19:00 Seems like it, but then, you know, like, American cars, they'll come out with cars like the GT350. You can't even get it with an automatic. Fuck off.

Richard Rawlings 19:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:07 Th- they won't even sell it to you.

Richard Rawlings 19:09 Yeah, and they're gonna hold on with that as long as they can. But, you know, your big competition cars, Porsche, Ferrari, Lambo, Mercedes-

Joe Rogan 19:15 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 19:16 ... th- uh, you know, it's, you can't get a man- a manual.

Joe Rogan 19:18 Wow, everybody wants that Nurburgring time, you know?

Richard Rawlings 19:21 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 19:21 They all want that super fast Nurburgring time, and unless you have a double clutch transmission, unless you have paddle shifts, you're just-

Richard Rawlings 19:28 You can't get there.

Joe Rogan 19:28 ... you're gonna miss a second here, a second there, and then people are gonna look at it when they... It's so ridiculous that people, like, look at those times-

Richard Rawlings 19:35 Yeah, 'cause the average Joe ain't going out there and doing that. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:38 (laughs) I mean, the modern cars, I mean, like the ZL1 that we were talking about earlier, I think they're down to... The 1LE, I think is down to a seven-minute and, and real low seconds Nurburgring time, which is fucking crazy. That's faster than a GT3 RS from a couple of years ago.

Richard Rawlings 19:56 For sure.

Joe Rogan 19:57 For a $60,000 car that you could buy at a Chevy dealership.

Richard Rawlings 20:00 Eh, probably closer to 80, but yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 20:02 Is it?

Richard Rawlings 20:02 Yeah, I think it's like 78.

Joe Rogan 20:04 Oh, okay. Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 20:05 But they're-

Joe Rogan 20:05 Loaded.

Richard Rawlings 20:06 ... phenomenal car.

Joe Rogan 20:07 Mm-hmm.

Richard Rawlings 20:07 It's, it's, uh, I agree that that Corvette and probably the Demon are, are two cars that are the most bang for the buck. I mean, just get it and go.

Joe Rogan 20:16 The ZL1, or the ZR1 rather, is almost too stupid. It's almost too ridiculous. It's just like, uh, uh, if you're a regular person and you, and you buy that and you try to take it somewhere, to, for you to understand the limits of the grip, how much gas you can apply, for you to have an educated foot, uh-

Richard Rawlings 20:32 Yeah, for sure. I mean, I, I, when I was... When they first started making those, uh, what was it? Seven or eight years ago, maybe a little longer, uh, I had a client had me get him one. He brought it back the next day scared to death. He goes-

Joe Rogan 20:42 (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 20:42 ... "Just sell it." He goes, uh, "I'll never drive it."

Joe Rogan 20:45 (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 20:45 He goes, "That, that is just stupid." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 20:48 (laughs) Yeah, I saw a picture of one the other day in my Google newsfeed that someone had bought and wrecked the next day.

Richard Rawlings 20:54 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:54 And the fuck had smashed it.

Richard Rawlings 20:55 I was just reading today, uh, uh, somebody sent me a link, uh, did you see the episode where we built the F40?

Joe Rogan 21:00 Look at that fucking car.

Richard Rawlings 21:01 Oh, it's fucking wicked.

Joe Rogan 21:03 Good Lord.

Richard Rawlings 21:03 I'm doing something with that right now that I can't... I, I, I guess I can. Imagine everything you see there, the styling, the, the, the, the carbon fiber points, the, the lift in the front and everything, the wing, um, all of it, but we're doing it with a '72 Rivera Boattail.

Joe Rogan 21:23 What?

Richard Rawlings 21:24 Yeah. It's gonna be fricking sick. We've already chopped the top and brought it down so that it doesn't have that clam mouth and, uh, looking, you know, windshield. And so we're, we're taking all of a bunch of our styling cues and our... And definitely all of our, uh, driving components' ideology, and we're cramming it into a '72 Rivie.

Joe Rogan 21:43 How does that fit?

Richard Rawlings 21:44 Huh?

Joe Rogan 21:45 How's that gonna fit?

Richard Rawlings 21:46 Um, well, we're not taking the chassis and putting it over there. We're making our own.

Joe Rogan 21:50 Right.

Richard Rawlings 21:51 And, and we've worked with Chris Austin on it also for the rear.

Joe Rogan 21:53 But you're using that transmission, that engine?

Richard Rawlings 21:55 Independent suspension.

Joe Rogan 21:56 Whoa.

Richard Rawlings 21:57 Uh, independent rear. I got a video here if I can find it.

Joe Rogan 22:00 Isn't a '72 Riviera like a million pounds? How much does that thing weigh?

Richard Rawlings 22:03 It's a lot.

Joe Rogan 22:04 (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 22:04 But we're clearing all of that out and we're working with, uh, Speedkor and we're doing, uh, a lot of... The top's gonna be carbon fiber and so will the hood, the trunk.

Joe Rogan 22:11 Oh.

Richard Rawlings 22:11 And, um, maybe even the full front clip.

Joe Rogan 22:14 Speedkor did a nasty 1970 Mustang for Robert Downey Jr. that I just saw online the other day.

Richard Rawlings 22:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:21 With a supercharged Coyote engine in it. Like a weird color too, like a beige, like a weird kind of yellowish funky color.

Richard Rawlings 22:29 See, I like the funky colors.

Joe Rogan 22:30 Do you?

Richard Rawlings 22:31 The crazier, the better. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:33 Like-

Richard Rawlings 22:34 That... I just love it. Like, our car's gonna be like a weird muted gray with, with, uh, red and chrome and, and carbon and-

Joe Rogan 22:40 (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 22:40 I mean, we're, we're getting pretty crazy with it. We, we're about halfway through.

Joe Rogan 22:46 So it's a '72?

Richard Rawlings 22:47 Boattail Riviera.

Joe Rogan 22:48 See if you can find one of those. I'm, I'm trying to picture that. Um, I have... I had a Riviera when I was in high school. (coughs) No, I didn't. I had a Skylark.

Richard Rawlings 22:57 So yeah, here you go.

Joe Rogan 22:59 Whoa.

Richard Rawlings 23:00 That's a stock one, but then it'll turn into the-

Joe Rogan 23:02 (clicks tongue) Look at that.

Richard Rawlings 23:03 We just started changing it. Yeah. So that's, uh, you know, a few people have built them into hot rods, but...

Joe Rogan 23:08 Wow.

Richard Rawlings 23:09 If you stay on that video, it'll just feed to where... What it's gonna look like when it's done.

Joe Rogan 23:14 Oh, I see what you did. So you have... Oh, wow. That's crazy.

Richard Rawlings 23:18 It's gonna be nuts. It'll probably be at SEMA this year in bare metal.

Joe Rogan 23:24 Whoa. That's a beautiful car. Don't have wagon wheels on it, like that stupid thing though.

Richard Rawlings 23:30 Yeah, I'm not a fan of those, those, uh-

Joe Rogan 23:32 Vance.

Richard Rawlings 23:32 That was a thing for a while. That's gonna be pretty fucking rad. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:34 That's pretty badass. That's pretty badass. Yeah, you don't see those. N- You never see that car. Like, that's a rare car.

Richard Rawlings 23:41 No, we found a, a one owner with zero hit, zero rust. I mean, the metallurgy is perfect.

Joe Rogan 23:46 What are those Australian cars that were in Mad Max?

Richard Rawlings 23:48 There it is. It's fixed now.

Joe Rogan 23:49 Ooh. Damn, that is gonna look pretty nasty. It's gonna be slammed like that?

Richard Rawlings 23:53 And it's gonna be nasty too. We're, we're probably gonna... We're aiming for around 1300 horsepower.

Joe Rogan 23:57 What? (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 24:01 Yeah. (laughs) We're building that one just for sheer shits and giggles and for fun 'cause nobody does that.

Joe Rogan 24:06 Well, somebody's gonna want it for sure.

Richard Rawlings 24:09 I hope they have a lot (laughs) of money.

Joe Rogan 24:12 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 24:12 'Cause it is... That's like a money pit right now.

Joe Rogan 24:15 Yeah. How much does something like that cost to build?

Richard Rawlings 24:18 ... 350.

Joe Rogan 24:19 Wow.

Richard Rawlings 24:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:20 To build. And then how much would you look to make?

Richard Rawlings 24:22 Well, you wanna try to ... I always try to make at least 20%. I mean, that's kinda my goal.

Joe Rogan 24:26 Right.

Richard Rawlings 24:27 But, uh-

Joe Rogan 24:28 That's reasonable.

Richard Rawlings 24:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:29 Especially considering all the creative time and putting it together and-

Richard Rawlings 24:34 Yeah, we do everything in-house. I mean, it's ... Except for interior, we're doing every single thing in-house now. I mean, we've come a long way since the beginning. Uh-

Joe Rogan 24:41 Yeah. And when you have that kinda horsepower, like, w- what kind of rubber are you gonna have on that thing?

Richard Rawlings 24:45 Oh, it'll have 15 inches on each side.

Joe Rogan 24:48 Right.

Richard Rawlings 24:48 I mean, it'll have ... I think we went with 24s and 22s and super, super wide.

Joe Rogan 24:54 Wow. Yeah, you kinda have to, right? And even then, it's probably gonna spin out everywhere.

Richard Rawlings 25:00 No, 'cause we're using all the technology. We're using the independent suspension, we're using all the sensors, all the- the stuff that's in that brand new 'Vette that we're adapting it-

Joe Rogan 25:08 So you can use traction control as well?

Richard Rawlings 25:08 All of it.

Joe Rogan 25:09 Wow.

Richard Rawlings 25:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:10 How do you adapt that over to a- an old car like that?

Richard Rawlings 25:13 You just go through the systems. Uh, we've got a guy working for us now that, uh, helped us run our standalone Hell- Hellcat that they said couldn't be done when we were, when we built the Sharkat.

Joe Rogan 25:24 Mm-hmm.

Richard Rawlings 25:25 And, uh, so he just gets the whole thing and starts eliminating sensors or adding or ... You know, and we end up with all the same technology.

Joe Rogan 25:34 So the sensors understand when a wheel's spinning.

Richard Rawlings 25:37 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 25:38 And then they compensate with brakes or-

Richard Rawlings 25:41 Horsepower, brakes, you know, they'll, you know, get your stupid, (laughs) the stupid light, you know? You can't do that. You gotta-

Joe Rogan 25:47 Mm-hmm.

Richard Rawlings 25:47 So we'll be able to turn it all on and off just like a brand new car.

Joe Rogan 25:50 Oh, so will you have different modes-

Richard Rawlings 25:52 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 25:53 ... like a race mode, street mode, like that one?

Richard Rawlings 25:54 Yeah, but what a lot of people try to do that I can't stand is they'll take the, something with that idea and they'll go, "Okay, I'm just gonna pull the body off and cram this under there and weld it together and hope it works." And we make everything adapt to the old car.

Joe Rogan 26:08 Ah.

Richard Rawlings 26:08 And still work though the way it's s- supposed to in a brand new car.

Joe Rogan 26:12 Yeah, I've seen ... You know, there's a, there's a guy online that has, um, (smacks lips) on Instagram, gt500superswap. He took a, an old, uh, GT 500 body and put it on a GT 500 from a modern chassis and pieced it together like that. But I was always thinking, with a, with a setup like that, like, you probably can't have airbags, right?

Richard Rawlings 26:34 You can. There's actually ways to add it into there, but you get into the-

Joe Rogan 26:38 There it is.

Richard Rawlings 26:39 Yeah, you get into the geometry, uh, and the direction of the airbag, so you-

Joe Rogan 26:43 Look how beautiful that looks though.

Richard Rawlings 26:44 Yeah, but you don't wanna play with the R&D of trying to put an airbag into something like that unless you really, really know what you're doing, because you don't ... You know.

Joe Rogan 26:54 Right.

Richard Rawlings 26:54 A fraction of an inch off of- of being where it needs to be, that airbag could do more damage than good.

Joe Rogan 26:59 It- it's weird though, because you're dealing with a totally different sized body too, so I wonder how he's doing this.

Richard Rawlings 27:07 It's easy. I mean-

Joe Rogan 27:08 Is it really?

Richard Rawlings 27:08 ... it doesn't sound easy, but it is.

Joe Rogan 27:10 Is it really? Have you done that before?

Richard Rawlings 27:11 Uh, yeah. We haven't, but I- I- I understand the process and really it's just cut, massage, move in, move out, you know?

Joe Rogan 27:18 'Cause there's a company called Mag Motors. Have you ever heard of them?

Richard Rawlings 27:21 I don't think I have.

Joe Rogan 27:22 Go to magmotors.com. They have, uh ... What they're doing is they're putting a carbon fiber body on a modern GT 500, but they're using a '67, like, Eleanor body, but they're making it out of carbon fiber. So it's, uh ... That one's gross. Go to the silver one. That white one looks disgusting.

Richard Rawlings 27:41 I just hate the Eleanor bodies-

Joe Rogan 27:43 Do you really?

Richard Rawlings 27:43 They're so overplayed.

Joe Rogan 27:44 How dare you?

Richard Rawlings 27:45 It's just too ... It's just been done so many times.

Joe Rogan 27:48 But who cares? It's amazing.

Jamie Vernon 27:49 That one?

Joe Rogan 27:50 Yeah. Go to ... Yeah, that's, those are the images. But go to ... Get it, get it from the side so you get a better look at it. That's a fucking beautiful car.

Richard Rawlings 27:57 See, to me, it sits weird. It- it looks like it sits a little too high and it looks like they're worried ... Like, I don't know anything about them, but to me, looking at it, it's like, you need to get it down a little bit, get-

Joe Rogan 28:08 Mm-hmm.

Richard Rawlings 28:08 ... get a little more attitude, get a deeper dish on the wheel. Um-

Joe Rogan 28:12 Well, I think what they're doing is trying to use all the geometry-

Richard Rawlings 28:15 Yes.

Joe Rogan 28:15 ... of the modern car.

Richard Rawlings 28:17 Correct, so you end up with something that looks like it could go four-wheeling. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:22 (laughs) A little bit, right? Yeah, it's not, it's definitely not slammed. Yeah, in terms of looks, right?

Richard Rawlings 28:30 Yes. I mean, I'm sure the car runs and drives and performs unbelievably.

Joe Rogan 28:34 Mm-hmm.

Richard Rawlings 28:34 But it's missing a little... To me, it's missing a little something.

Joe Rogan 28:37 Um, you know that company Classic Recreations? (clears throat) Have you seen them?

Richard Rawlings 28:41 No, I don't think so.

Joe Rogan 28:42 They do, they're doing similar cars like that too, but they're doing it, you know, from the ground up.

Richard Rawlings 28:47 There's a lot of people doing it.

Joe Rogan 28:48 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 28:48 Um, because it's ... With technology coming the way that it has, it's- it's not as hard t- to do as it used to be.

Joe Rogan 28:55 Mm-hmm.

Richard Rawlings 28:56 Um, it's still t- a laborious task, don't get me wrong, but, you know, you can make all those systems work in anything.

Joe Rogan 29:02 See, a guy like you that's a car guy, you look at an Eleanor and you look at it like it's played, but a person who doesn't see them all the time, who's not in the car industry, you ... When was the last time you saw one of those fucking things on the street?

Richard Rawlings 29:15 Shit, I was just at-

Joe Rogan 29:15 You never see one?

Richard Rawlings 29:15 ... Barrett-Jackson. There was like five of them for sale. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 29:17 That's the thing. If you go there ... But, like, Fusion Motorsports, they're- they're right down the street here. They make ... They're the only licensed dealers. They have some deal with the- the woman who was the ... She was the wife of the guy who wrote Gone in 60 Seconds or produced-

Richard Rawlings 29:33 Okay.

Joe Rogan 29:33 ... or something like that. And so they make, uh ... See, go- go to Fusion Eleanor. They make some pretty sick ones. But you think those are played out?

Richard Rawlings 29:43 Personally, yeah. I'm just not a- an Eleanor car fan. I just don't-

Joe Rogan 29:46 That is fucking beautiful. Why do you hate America, Richard?

Richard Rawlings 29:48 I don't hate America. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 29:50 How could you, how could you not love that?

Richard Rawlings 29:51 It's just, there's hundreds, if not thousands of them out there.

Joe Rogan 29:55 (laughs) Come on, bro. You must hate America.

Richard Rawlings 29:57 No way, man.

Joe Rogan 29:58 Secretly. (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 29:59 (laughs) And I love the Mustangs. I've got three of them myself, including a- a- a real '68 Shelby, but, uh, um-

Joe Rogan 30:05 Is it the shape or the- the color scheme?

Richard Rawlings 30:08 I think it's the shape. I mean, to me, it's- it's such a popular car in the movie that, you know ...

Joe Rogan 30:14 Too many people did it?

Richard Rawlings 30:15 And now everybody's doing it and, you know, it's what have you.

Joe Rogan 30:20 ... yeah, but I mean, how many of them are out there in comparison to, like, say a modern ZR1?

Richard Rawlings 30:24 For those cars-

Joe Rogan 30:24 There's probably not nearly as many of those out there-

Richard Rawlings 30:27 I bet you there's thousands of those out there.

Joe Rogan 30:27 Oh, you think so?

Richard Rawlings 30:28 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:29 Really?

Richard Rawlings 30:30 Yeah. The- there's different companies making tons of them.

Joe Rogan 30:32 All car people say that. They say two cars they- they think are played out, '69 Camaros and these things. Like, everybody does a '69 Camaro and everybody does an Eleanor.

Richard Rawlings 30:41 Yeah. And the, um, the Dukes of Hazzard car.

Joe Rogan 30:44 Oh, yeah.

Richard Rawlings 30:44 Same thing.

Joe Rogan 30:45 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 30:45 You know. Now, a badass '69 Charger, don't get me wrong, but painted orange with a- (laughs) with a flag on the top-

Joe Rogan 30:50 (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 30:51 ... is played out.

Joe Rogan 30:51 You can't do that anymore. That flag is fucking persona non grata.

Richard Rawlings 30:56 Yeah, that's- that is, for sure.

Joe Rogan 30:57 (laughs) You believe they pulled that show off the air?

Richard Rawlings 30:59 Did they?

Joe Rogan 30:59 Because... Yes. 'Cause of the flag. That show's off the air.

Richard Rawlings 31:02 I thought it showed on, like, some weird, obscure cable channel.

Joe Rogan 31:04 They pulled it off of TV Land. That's where it was on.

Richard Rawlings 31:07 Really?

Joe Rogan 31:07 Yep, TV Land. I wrote a whole thing about it on Instagram, how ridiculous it was.

Richard Rawlings 31:11 Yeah, I don't know if I agree with that. I mean, it- it's like trying to erase history or whatever, you know?

Joe Rogan 31:17 Yeah. Yeah. Well, you live in Dallas, though. It's- it's a little easier to get by with a Confederate flag in Dallas.

Richard Rawlings 31:22 Oh, yeah. We don't have a bunch of matcha cheese drinkers and-

Joe Rogan 31:26 (coughs)

Richard Rawlings 31:26 ... what have you, like we do out here in California.

Joe Rogan 31:27 Matcha? (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 31:28 (laughs) Yeah. Freaking... I- I, you know, living in Dallas, uh, I have to do my business, uh, with the people out here in LA, and it's... You know, I'm getting off work before they've had their two chai lattes and walked their dog and showed up to the office, you know? (laughs) And I'm like, "Come on, guys. Get up and get to work." Um, it's... Then I get accused of... They're like, "Have you been drinking?" I'm like, "Yeah, it's 7:30 in the night here. (Laughs) I've been off for two and a half hours."

Joe Rogan 31:54 People get upset at you if you've been drinking?

Richard Rawlings 31:56 Well, no, when I'm trying to conduct, uh, some of the business calls that we do in the evenings because they haven't gotten to work yet.

Joe Rogan 32:02 And they ask you if you've actually been drinking?

Richard Rawlings 32:03 Sometimes.

Joe Rogan 32:04 Really?

Richard Rawlings 32:05 Well, sh-

Joe Rogan 32:05 Just because they know you from the show?

Richard Rawlings 32:07 Well, we... Well, I'm talking about my agents and managers and- and-

Joe Rogan 32:10 Oh.

Richard Rawlings 32:10 ... networks and whatever. I'm like, "Yeah, I... 'Cause-"

Joe Rogan 32:13 (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 32:13 "... I've been off since five o'clock, guys. Most people have a couple beers and sit around the shop." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:18 Well, most people there, yeah. Yeah. It's a different world out here.

Richard Rawlings 32:22 It-

Joe Rogan 32:22 It's a little bit of a culture shock.

Richard Rawlings 32:24 It is. Uh, I don't- I don't know. I mean, I like it, it's okay, but I think if I was gonna move, uh, Gas Monkey anywhere, it would probably be Scottsdale.

Joe Rogan 32:33 Scottsdale's nice.

Richard Rawlings 32:34 It's freaking cool.

Joe Rogan 32:35 It's about a million degrees in the summer, though. You ever go there?

Richard Rawlings 32:38 Yeah, but it's a dry heat.

Joe Rogan 32:39 And... Oh. (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 32:41 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:41 It's like, so is a sauna. It's fucking preposterous. We went outside. I was in, uh, I was in, uh, Phoenix last July and we went outside and we're like, we just stood there for a second going, "This is a... This is ridiculous. We should get used to this, because this is what global warming's going to be like in LA-"

Richard Rawlings 32:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:56 "... in just a few years."

Richard Rawlings 32:57 Yeah. You guys are going to either be, uh, on fire from the- from the volcanoes-

Joe Rogan 33:01 (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 33:01 ... or global warming or whatever, (laughs) or sliding into the ocean. But-

Joe Rogan 33:04 Well, I-

Richard Rawlings 33:05 ... I really like Scottsdale. Uh, uh, fun fact, next week they have me playing in the, uh, Scottsdale Open, the Waste Management Open there in the Celebrity Pro-Am.

Joe Rogan 33:14 Oh, yeah? Do you golf?

Richard Rawlings 33:15 I absolutely suck at it.

Joe Rogan 33:17 Do you?

Richard Rawlings 33:18 Like, horribly. Um, I've been a member of the same country club for about 19 years and I've probably played about 50 rounds of golf in my life. (laughs) And they've got me playing in the Pro-Am, uh, the Celebrity thing, and- and I'm like, "Boy, whoever gets teamed up with me (laughs) -"

Joe Rogan 33:31 Is in big trouble. Are you gonna tighten up before you go? Are you gonna take some lessons or anything?

Richard Rawlings 33:35 No way, man. I'm swinging.

Joe Rogan 33:36 (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 33:37 'Cause- 'cause the way I look at it is, all I'm gonna do then is, like, be pissed off that I can't do what the guy told me to do.

Joe Rogan 33:44 (laughs) Right. It's not-

Richard Rawlings 33:44 You know?

Joe Rogan 33:45 ... gonna get much better.

Richard Rawlings 33:46 And then, uh, it's like, what I tell them on v- on top of that is, I'm like, "Okay, you think you're so good at golf because you can shoot 72." You know, or whatever. Well, mathematically, this is an 18-shot game. (smacks lips)

Joe Rogan 33:58 Right.

Richard Rawlings 33:58 (laughs) You could figure it out mathematically.

Joe Rogan 34:00 Yeah, I mean, if you had some insane ability.

Richard Rawlings 34:04 Well, yeah, but you don't have to have insane ability to figure out the mathematics of it. So-

Joe Rogan 34:08 'Cause it's an 18-

Richard Rawlings 34:09 ... it's a 18-shot game, guys.

Joe Rogan 34:10 (laughs) Uh, yeah, but no one's ever done that.

Richard Rawlings 34:13 Mm-mm.

Joe Rogan 34:14 So how is it an 18-shot game?

Richard Rawlings 34:15 Just mathematically.

Joe Rogan 34:16 That's like saying-

Richard Rawlings 34:16 It's the same thing as building-

Joe Rogan 34:17 ... every fight is a one-punch fight.

Richard Rawlings 34:19 Well, no.

Joe Rogan 34:20 It's more like saying that, because m- more fights are one-punch fights than, ever, a golf game is an 18-shot golf game.

Richard Rawlings 34:27 I'm saying mathematically, propulsion, direction, you know-

Joe Rogan 34:29 Right.

Richard Rawlings 34:30 ... etcetera and so forth, you can get that ball from that spot to that hole-

Joe Rogan 34:33 Is-

Richard Rawlings 34:33 ... every time.

Joe Rogan 34:34 It's possible with enough power. Right.

Richard Rawlings 34:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:37 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 34:38 Spin, what have you.

Joe Rogan 34:39 But that's liter- literally like saying every fight is a one-shot fight.

Richard Rawlings 34:43 No way.

Joe Rogan 34:44 Why? 'Cause a lot of fights are one-shot fights, but there's never been a 18-hole game that's played with 18 shots.

Richard Rawlings 34:50 But there are hole-in-ones, so all you need is 18 of them to get in.

Joe Rogan 34:52 There's never been 18 of them.

Richard Rawlings 34:53 Never.

Joe Rogan 34:53 It's never happened-

Richard Rawlings 34:54 No.

Joe Rogan 34:54 ... in the history of the human race.

Richard Rawlings 34:55 I think the most they've ever done in an actual real tournament is two.

Joe Rogan 34:58 Someone's done two?

Richard Rawlings 34:59 I think somebody did.

Joe Rogan 35:00 Wow.

Richard Rawlings 35:00 I'd have to look it up. But, uh, yeah. So, one-shot fight, that'd probably be you fighting me. You just hit me and I'd go down. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:08 There's been quite a few in... That I've called. One punch in the beginning of the fight, bam, someone gets hit and they go down. At least three or four in the history of the fight. Duane Ludwig, like six seconds, first- first punch he threw.

Richard Rawlings 35:22 That'd probably be me.

Joe Rogan 35:22 I don't think... Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 35:22 We already talked about working out, so-

Joe Rogan 35:24 Yeah, you're not a workout guy.

Richard Rawlings 35:25 ... I'd go down pretty quick. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:26 I can't believe you've never worked out ever in your life.

Richard Rawlings 35:28 I really haven't. I mean-

Joe Rogan 35:30 And you're thinking about starting?

Richard Rawlings 35:32 More like just cardio and stuff. I turn 50 in two months, so starting to feel it.

Joe Rogan 35:35 Are you nervous about that?

Richard Rawlings 35:37 You know, I am a little bit.

Joe Rogan 35:38 It's a weird number, right?

Richard Rawlings 35:39 It's a weird number, plus I look at my dad and- and, you know, he's 23 years older than- than me and- and I'm like, "God, I- I got 20 years left."

Joe Rogan 35:46 (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 35:46 Holy shit. (laughs) You know?

Joe Rogan 35:49 Yeah. Well, working out definitely holds off the grim reaper a little bit.

Richard Rawlings 35:53 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:54 Keeps your body working better. But it- it takes effort. You gotta be willing to do it.

Richard Rawlings 35:58 Well, like I said, I just hope things work out. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:01 Just hire a hot trainer. Hire a chick that's gonna... You- you'll be motivated.

Richard Rawlings 36:05 Or embarrassed. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:07 Both. You'll be embarrassed and that will get you motivated.

Richard Rawlings 36:10 Yeah. This chick's like looking at me going, "What is wrong with you?" (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:13 (laughs) What kind of man are you?

Richard Rawlings 36:15 What kind of man?

Joe Rogan 36:16 Yeah. That- that is some embarrassing shit when a chick can lift more than you.

Richard Rawlings 36:21 Yeah. Well, I'm sure there's a lot of 'em.

Joe Rogan 36:23 Oh, there's a lot of 'em. There's a lot of 'em around the block.

Richard Rawlings 36:26 Yeah. Well-

Joe Rogan 36:26 Right around the corner, there's a giant fucking bodybuilding gym.

Richard Rawlings 36:29 For chicks? Oh.

Joe Rogan 36:31 Mm. For guys. For everybody.

Richard Rawlings 36:34 Right.

Joe Rogan 36:34 I mean, it's just savages.

Richard Rawlings 36:36 I don't know. I- I- I like an athletic build on a girl, but I don't know if I want her to have giant muscles and-

Joe Rogan 36:40 Mm. Yeah. There's a, there's a point of no return-

Richard Rawlings 36:42 I don't want her to take bigger crunches than me.

Joe Rogan 36:45 Right.

Narrator 36:46 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:46 Yeah. There's a, there's a point where it gets creepy. There's like a... Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 36:53 Roll over. I'm holding her from behind, little spoon and I'm like, "Oh, is, is that you, Joe?" (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:58 Yeah. Like veins, right? Like veiny forearms on chicks. Like something about, something about like veiny chest, like a girl with a veiny, veiny pecs.

Richard Rawlings 37:07 Yeah. No.

Joe Rogan 37:08 No.

Richard Rawlings 37:08 No, it doesn't work.

Joe Rogan 37:08 It's a mistake.

Richard Rawlings 37:10 It ... They're not supposed to have pecs anyways.

Joe Rogan 37:11 Right.

Richard Rawlings 37:11 They're supposed to have boobs.

Joe Rogan 37:12 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 37:12 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:13 But they have boobs combined with pecs. That's where it gets real weird, when they have fake boobs, but they also have-

Richard Rawlings 37:17 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:17 ... pec muscles.

Richard Rawlings 37:18 Oh, and you can feel the muscles underneath the fake boob. Ugh.

Joe Rogan 37:20 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 37:21 He's like, "I don't like it."

Joe Rogan 37:22 This water balloon that's floating on top of his sinew. Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 37:27 Um-

Joe Rogan 37:27 They just get a little too crazy.

Richard Rawlings 37:28 Now, that's one thing I do like about California here, you know? The, uh, the Southern California little blonde with all the tattoos and, you know, her little bikini on the beach and what have you.

Joe Rogan 37:37 They got those in Texas, though.

Richard Rawlings 37:39 Eh, not as many.

Joe Rogan 37:40 They don't?

Richard Rawlings 37:40 Yeah. We got 'em, but not as many.

Joe Rogan 37:42 I don't know. Maybe I'm on, I'm on Instagram too much.

Richard Rawlings 37:45 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:47 (laughs) It seems like every girl in, from Texas on Instagram has tattoos all over the place.

Richard Rawlings 37:51 Yeah, but that's ... You know, there's 20 of 'em, not hundreds of 'em.

Joe Rogan 37:55 Oh. Right, right, right.

Richard Rawlings 37:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:56 Yeah. Out here, there's thousands. They're everywhere. Go to like Venice Beach, it's hard to find a girl who doesn't have a tattoo. That's unique these days. That's a real rebel.

Richard Rawlings 38:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:05 A girl with no piercings and no tattoos.

Richard Rawlings 38:07 It's either rebel or boring. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 38:09 Yeah. Probably both.

Richard Rawlings 38:11 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 38:11 (laughs) She's rebelling against being exciting.

Richard Rawlings 38:16 Uh, yes.

Joe Rogan 38:16 You know? But I think the, the girl bodybuilder though, what happens is like people get into something and they forget how weird it is for everybody else. So as they get deeper and deeper into it, they just wanna excel at it and they wanna lift more weights and, you know, they're trying to put more on the squat rack or they're deadlifting, their neck gets big and it's just ...

Richard Rawlings 38:33 Yeah. And, and, and, uh, I had a girl that worked for me for a long time that, uh, was real into it. She was like this, uh ... I don't know what competition she does, but it was body sculpting and stuff.

Joe Rogan 38:43 Mm.

Richard Rawlings 38:44 And this girl's over there measuring florets of broccoli on a scale. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 38:47 Oh, that's, that's when they fucked up. You want another one?

Richard Rawlings 38:50 Yeah, I could ... Whoa.

Joe Rogan 38:51 Oops. Yeah. Once they start measuring their food and counting their macros, like settle down. Unless you're in some gigantic competition.

Richard Rawlings 39:01 Cheers.

Joe Rogan 39:02 Cheers, sir.

Richard Rawlings 39:02 Hell yeah. Fixing to break out some tequila for you in a minute.

Joe Rogan 39:06 Break it out, man. Do we have cups?

Richard Rawlings 39:08 Hell yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:08 You brought cups too? At least this guy comes prepared. Oh, you have Gas Monkey Tequila? Get the fuck out of here. You got your own tequila? Dude, can I get a Gas Monkey T-shirt? Do you have one?

Richard Rawlings 39:19 I brought you one.

Joe Rogan 39:20 I fucking love that logo.

Richard Rawlings 39:21 I got some of this crap down here.

Joe Rogan 39:23 Dude, I'll put one on right now. I don't give a fuck.

Richard Rawlings 39:26 Ta-da.

Joe Rogan 39:27 Look at that. Ooh.

Richard Rawlings 39:29 Got a couple of 'em here.

Joe Rogan 39:30 Nice.

Richard Rawlings 39:31 Whatever.

Joe Rogan 39:32 Look at that, Jamie, huh? Jealous?

Richard Rawlings 39:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 39:37 Oh, yeah. Nice. Dude, that is cool. Yeah, you guys have like a whole apparel line.

Richard Rawlings 39:46 Dude, we have everything. I mean, we've got tools. We've got ... I saw a bath mat the other day at like Home Goods or something and I'm like, "I don't even remember approving that."

Joe Rogan 39:53 (laughs) Is it for sure yours?

Richard Rawlings 39:57 Yeah. Yeah. It's a licensed-

Joe Rogan 39:58 Or is it some knockoff shit?

Richard Rawlings 39:58 No, it's a licensed product.

Joe Rogan 40:01 Well, that's part of the thing, right? You guys came up with a cool logo.

Richard Rawlings 40:04 Yeah. And, uh, the monkey's, you know ... He's that lovable character that's also a pain in the ass and kinda in there messing stuff up all the time, but you can't shoot him 'cause he's just ... that's what he does. You know? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:16 He's a monkey.

Richard Rawlings 40:16 And, uh, what have you. So we did the Gas Monkey Cinnamon Tequila. This is, uh ...

Joe Rogan 40:21 It's cinnamon?

Richard Rawlings 40:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:22 Ooh.

Richard Rawlings 40:22 It's, it's 100% blue agave just swirled with a little bit of cinnamon and-

Joe Rogan 40:26 Nice. My kids got a soccer game after this. I'm gonna be fucked up.

Richard Rawlings 40:30 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:30 Good times.

Richard Rawlings 40:31 Well-

Joe Rogan 40:31 Salud, scum.

Richard Rawlings 40:32 ... it's a good way to get through the game. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:33 Yeah. For sure. Mm. That's actually good.

Richard Rawlings 40:39 It's good stuff.

Joe Rogan 40:40 Don't tell, um, Ron White, but I think your tequila's better. He'll get mad.

Richard Rawlings 40:45 Really?

Joe Rogan 40:45 If he's gonna hear this, he'll get mad at me. He loves his tequila.

Richard Rawlings 40:48 We came up with this because, um, you'll ... This is the only tequila you'll ever find that says, "Made in America."

Joe Rogan 40:53 Really?

Richard Rawlings 40:53 'Cause, 'cause you have to do, um, Jalisco, you know, real blue agave tequila is always Hecho en Mexico from Jalisco. To get around that, I ship it in, uh, in tankers.

Joe Rogan 41:05 Oh.

Richard Rawlings 41:05 And then I do it here. So we're switching, uh, build... Our distributors right ... Our dis- distillers right now and it will be made in Texas.

Joe Rogan 41:14 So you can't grow it in America? You can't grow the agave in America?

Richard Rawlings 41:18 Uh, you could, but, uh, a real tequila, just like champagne in France-

Joe Rogan 41:22 Oh.

Richard Rawlings 41:22 ... you know, it ... Real tequila is always from Jalisco area.

Joe Rogan 41:25 Hm.

Richard Rawlings 41:26 And, uh, what have you. Um-

Joe Rogan 41:28 How weird is that? It's like Burgundy, right?

Richard Rawlings 41:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:30 Burgundy is from ... Or Bordeaux.

Richard Rawlings 41:32 Bordeaux. Exactly.

Joe Rogan 41:33 A certain part of France.

Richard Rawlings 41:35 But, uh-

Joe Rogan 41:36 That didn't ... That's funny. I didn't ... I, I kind ... I guess I kinda knew that, but I didn't think about that. That's weird. Like whiskey can make anywhere.

Richard Rawlings 41:43 Well, this stuff's ... We're literally sold out right now worldwide.

Joe Rogan 41:45 Really?

Richard Rawlings 41:45 Yeah. I took it to the troops. Um, we went and did a deal with, uh, the PX exchanges on all the bases in the world and, uh, they wiped me out. Uh-

Joe Rogan 41:55 Wow.

Richard Rawlings 41:55 And so we're, we're having to make it right now. We're completely sold out everywhere.

Joe Rogan 41:59 That's fucking great.

Richard Rawlings 42:00 I had to borrow a couple of bottles from somebody that was hoarding them.

Joe Rogan 42:03 That, that is a fucking dope logo though, that monkey with the tongue hanging out. Now, you have that on the outside of your garage. Do you get a bunch of looky loos who find out where you guys are?

Richard Rawlings 42:11 Oh, we do it on purpose. We've got a little spot where people can come by and see the cars. Uh, we got a building there and then we've got a, a merch shop. And inside the merch shop, you can go in the back and there's like a party area where you can have a ... I don't sell beer or alcohol, but you can have a Gas Monkey energy drink or water and-

Joe Rogan 42:26 Really?

Richard Rawlings 42:27 ... kind of feel like you're in the experience and, uh, but yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:29 Wow. So you let people just come on down and say hi? Did you give out the address?

Richard Rawlings 42:34 I really do. Uh, yeah. No. I mean, everybody can come by. There's probably ... We're on, um, Earth Cam right now. Pull up Earth Cam Gas Monkey. We can see how many people are there.

Joe Rogan 42:42 Do you get stalked by weirdos 'cause of the TV show?

Richard Rawlings 42:45 Uh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:46 (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 42:47 You know what really freaking sucks in Texas? This is no bullshit, and I didn't find this out until we got stopped.

Joe Rogan 42:51 There it is.

Richard Rawlings 42:52 Oh, it's raining.

Joe Rogan 42:53 Live cam. What really sucks?

Richard Rawlings 42:54 Um, somebody comes on my property and they're weird, and I gotta tell them to leave, you know, or they're aggressive or whatever, and I go, "Get the hell off the property. Get outta here. Beat it." For the next 24 hours, I'm responsible for them if they... Uh, like, if they leave and get run over at the corner or whatever because I made them leave, I forced them from the property, they're my responsibility.

Joe Rogan 43:17 What?

Richard Rawlings 43:18 It fucking sucks.

Joe Rogan 43:19 So if a guy shows up drunk and you say, "Hey, man, you gotta get the fuck out of here," and the guy leaves and gets in a car accident-

Richard Rawlings 43:25 He could say, "Hey, they made me leave."

Joe Rogan 43:28 What?

Richard Rawlings 43:29 Yeah. You know, so the drunk ones, I'll put them in an Uber, but I'm talking about just the crazy ones. You know, we've got a homeless problem in, uh, Dallas that's starting to get to be about as big as you guys are having here, and they'll wander onto property and we're like, "Hey, you gotta beat it." And then if they go down the street and gets hit, yeah, I'm responsible.

Joe Rogan 43:47 Then you're responsible for their medical bills?

Richard Rawlings 43:48 Can be.

Joe Rogan 43:49 What?

Richard Rawlings 43:49 It's the stupidest freaking law on the planet.

Joe Rogan 43:51 What was... Is that, like, a hospitality law? Like, what's... Is it because you're a business?

Richard Rawlings 43:55 I don't know because I don't sell alcohol. But it's because I'm a business and I made them leave. They came to see me and I made them leave. They didn't leave on their f- own accord. Um, so we have to call the cops to get them to carry those people out.

Joe Rogan 44:06 That's so weird. I went to Jay Leno's garage, and he's telling me that, uh... You know, Jay Leno's garage is not Jay Leno's garage. It's Jay Leno's 11 garages.

Richard Rawlings 44:15 Oh, I know. I've been there. I've, I've done the Jay Leno Show.

Joe Rogan 44:18 Fucking crazy.

Richard Rawlings 44:18 It's freaking great.

Joe Rogan 44:20 I mean, I knew that guy was a car nut, but I didn't know the magnitude until you go and you see these 11 warehouse buildings-

Richard Rawlings 44:25 Just full.

Joe Rogan 44:26 ... full of cars.

Richard Rawlings 44:27 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 44:27 He's got a real problem.

Richard Rawlings 44:29 No, he's got a great problem. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 44:31 (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 44:31 He's got a, a great problem. I'm only up to two buildings. I need to start adding buildings.

Joe Rogan 44:35 How many cars do you personally own?

Richard Rawlings 44:37 Um, it's hard to answer 'cause I own Gas Monkey-

Joe Rogan 44:40 Right.

Richard Rawlings 44:40 ... and so we have inventory. I, I tell, I tell everybody I usually keep between 50 and 60 cars.

Joe Rogan 44:46 That are yours?

Richard Rawlings 44:47 That are sort of for sale, you know. So they're probably-

Joe Rogan 44:51 If someone comes along-

Richard Rawlings 44:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:52 ... and goes, "Man, I need that car," and you're like, "Well, of course, yeah."

Richard Rawlings 44:53 But there's about, there's about 10 that I won't sell, period.

Joe Rogan 44:56 What do you... What won't you sell?

Richard Rawlings 44:57 I won't sell my, um, Thomas Crown Affair Mustang, my Shelby, uh, convertible.

Joe Rogan 45:03 What, what is that?

Richard Rawlings 45:04 Uh...

Joe Rogan 45:04 What year?

Richard Rawlings 45:05 '68. Uh, you can probably find a picture of that on the net. But it's a, it's a remake of the one they used in Thomas Crown Affair with Pierce Brosnan when he's on the island, and it's got all the-

Joe Rogan 45:13 I never saw that movie.

Richard Rawlings 45:14 It's all lifted, on BF Goodriches.

Joe Rogan 45:16 I don't think I've never seen a Pierce Brosnan movie.

Richard Rawlings 45:18 Ah, dude. Thomas Crown Affair is a remake of another Thomas Crown Affair movie and, uh, uh, the Mustang's just wicked cool. So I had a client, a friend of mine had me build it for him. Good friend. And I wanted the car. Of course, I couldn't afford it then, we didn't even have the TV show yet. And, um, so I built him this perfect rendition, '68 Shelby convertible Mustang, put BF Goodriches on it, raised it all up high. I mean, it's a perfect California cruiser. And, um, then when I got the show, I call him up and I go, "Hey, can I borrow the car, buddy?" 'Cause I want stuff sitting around the shop that, that I built. I don't want other people's stuff here. He goes, "Oh, yeah, man, just send the truck down to pick it up." This is three years later. I send the truck down, it gets back. The car's got 42 miles on it, it's been sitting there doing nothing in his garage. He's down in New Orleans so it's got some of that haze and shit from the salt air, uh, a ba- the gas is... There it is.

Joe Rogan 46:11 Ooh.

Richard Rawlings 46:11 The gas is bad.

Joe Rogan 46:12 Wow, that is really hot. It looks like you're going four-wheeling in that fucking thing. What is going on with the tire on the trunk?

Richard Rawlings 46:18 That's the spare. Um-

Joe Rogan 46:20 I know, but it's, that's an odd placement.

Richard Rawlings 46:23 Uh, that's just how it was in the movie.

Joe Rogan 46:25 Really?

Richard Rawlings 46:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:26 Wow.

Richard Rawlings 46:27 And, uh... Golly, am I fat there or what?

Joe Rogan 46:29 Is that you?

Richard Rawlings 46:30 I don't... No, I don't... No, that's not the one I built.

Joe Rogan 46:32 That can't be you. That's not you, bro.

Richard Rawlings 46:33 Somebody made... That's, that's another guy's car.

Joe Rogan 46:36 Some fucking asshole.

Richard Rawlings 46:36 And it's just not quite right.

Joe Rogan 46:38 (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 46:38 Mine is more absolutely perfect to the movie. That's somebody else's rendition of it. Um, but anyways, I call my buddy, I go, "Let me borrow the car," et cetera. He gets there with 42 miles on it after three years, it doesn't run, the gas is bad, carburetor's all fucked off. And, of course, I call him up and go, "You're a really shitty car owner." I said, "This, this thing is freaking badass and look what you've done to it." Well, he has a considerable amount of money, so the next day the title shows up in the mail and he goes, "You're right. I'm a shitty car owner. It's yours." Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:08 He just gave it to you?

Richard Rawlings 47:09 (laughs) Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:10 Jesus Christ.

Richard Rawlings 47:11 It, uh, it helps to have, uh, close friends that, that have a lot of cash.

Joe Rogan 47:15 Wow. Uh, he must, like, obviously like you too.

Richard Rawlings 47:18 Nah, we're real good friends.

Joe Rogan 47:19 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 47:19 He's, he's a, he's a bad motherfucker.

Joe Rogan 47:21 Well, I wanna see what it actually looks like without the fat guy driving. No disrespect, fat guy.

Richard Rawlings 47:25 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:27 (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 47:27 I was looking at it 'cause I could see where... You know.

Joe Rogan 47:30 If you don't work out at all, how do you stay thin? 'Cause you're a thin guy.

Richard Rawlings 47:33 I think it's just metabolism.

Joe Rogan 47:34 Oh.

Richard Rawlings 47:34 I do eat right.

Joe Rogan 47:35 Okay.

Richard Rawlings 47:35 Uh, I don't eat fast food.

Joe Rogan 47:37 But you drink?

Richard Rawlings 47:37 Uh, I don't do sodas. I haven't done sodas or anything like that in two decades. Um-

Joe Rogan 47:42 But how often do you drink?

Richard Rawlings 47:44 Every day.

Joe Rogan 47:45 (laughs) Doesn't that cancel out, all the, uh, no sodas?

Richard Rawlings 47:50 I don't know. I mean, maybe it's because it doesn't have as much sugar, but, but-

Joe Rogan 47:53 Well, I think you must have, like, a, a beer drinker's metabolism. You just, you know how to do it.

Richard Rawlings 47:58 Yeah, it's a... It takes a lot of practice to get it to this point.

Joe Rogan 48:01 You, your, your body's ready.

Richard Rawlings 48:02 I'm ready for anything. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:03 Your body knows what the fuck to do. It's like a marathon runner. Like, everybody can't run, you know, fucking 15 miles a day.

Richard Rawlings 48:09 Uh, that's true, right?

Joe Rogan 48:09 But someone who runs 15 miles a day can do it.

Richard Rawlings 48:11 Yeah, I, I... There's, that's one thing that's just monotonous to me, running. Uh, my, uh, my wife's a runner, and, uh, I'm like, "That's just silly." You know, like, "Why do you wanna get out and go run 20 miles?"

Joe Rogan 48:24 I don't run 20 miles, but I run hills. I run four, four is the most I run. But I run, like, pretty steep hills. There's your car.

Richard Rawlings 48:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:34 Is that it?

Richard Rawlings 48:35 Uh.

Joe Rogan 48:35 The one up... That's the same fat guy right there, Jamie.

Jamie Vernon 48:38 I know. It's, there's, uh, a couple versions of it and a lot of the websites are pulling both versions up.

Joe Rogan 48:42 Drop down to the one right below that where your cursor is. Look at that.

Richard Rawlings 48:45 That one right there is, that's the real one, yeah.

Jamie Vernon 48:46 Like, this one?

Richard Rawlings 48:47 Yeah, that's the real one.

Joe Rogan 48:48 Ah, that's nice.

Richard Rawlings 48:49 That's the real one, yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:50 It's a nice car.

Richard Rawlings 48:52 It's so much fun. I got a banging stupid sound system in it, so, you know, it'd be-

Joe Rogan 48:57 Roll bar, the whole deal.

Richard Rawlings 48:58 It'd be a great car to cruise around California.

Joe Rogan 49:00 What kind of engine did you put in that thing?

Richard Rawlings 49:01 Just the, the typical small block. It's a GT, uh, 350, so it's got a small block 302 and, uh, what have you. It's, uh, it's a pretty fun time. It gets a lot of heads. And then we were talking about cars I wouldn't sell. I got that, I got a '52 Fleetline, that was the first car we ever built as Gas Monkey Garage.

Joe Rogan 49:18 What is a Fleetline? I don't even know what that is.

Richard Rawlings 49:20 That's a ... You can type in 52 Fleetline Gas Monkey. Uh, it's, uh, the fastback version of, of a '52 Chevy. It kinda has the slope back.

Joe Rogan 49:29 Oh, wow.

Richard Rawlings 49:29 Some people call it a torpedo back. Uh-

Joe Rogan 49:32 Look at that thing.

Richard Rawlings 49:33 Yeah. The ... Not that one, the picture on the far corner. Uh, yeah, that's us. And, uh, it's all patinaed out and kind of, you know-

Joe Rogan 49:42 Oh, so you kept it like that?

Richard Rawlings 49:43 Yeah, that was the original body. We chopped it though, and, uh, it's got, um ... (smacks lips)

Joe Rogan 49:48 Wow. People love that. Like, the original patinaed out body. Like, um, Icon does that. They call them derelicts.

Richard Rawlings 49:55 That's a good picture of the car, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Derelicts.

Joe Rogan 49:57 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 49:57 You may have seen them. And then we got a ... What else do we have? I got a f- my first Ferrari I ever bought, I won't sell that. Uh, as far as the first one I ever bought for me.

Joe Rogan 50:05 What is it?

Richard Rawlings 50:06 599 GTB 2009.

Joe Rogan 50:07 Oh, that's a nice car.

Richard Rawlings 50:09 Super good car. And, uh, you know, then I had a couple other Ferraris, but I, they're, I'd probably sell those. But that one, first one, you know, just probably never will. And-

Joe Rogan 50:18 Just because it's like a benchmark, like you?

Richard Rawlings 50:20 Uh, uh, I'm a big proponent, uh, and, and believer in forcing yourself, you know. And so when I bought that car-

Joe Rogan 50:26 Forcing yourself.

Richard Rawlings 50:28 Y- To, to want more, to do more, to, to give yourself motivation. A lot of people just save and save and save, and I'm more like, "Okay, I'm gonna do something that I probably shouldn't do right now, so that I know I gotta work hard to make sure I don't have to give it up."

Joe Rogan 50:39 Dude, I'm with you.

Richard Rawlings 50:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:41 That's me.

Richard Rawlings 50:42 It's-

Joe Rogan 50:42 I, I talk my friends into that shit. I talked my friend Tony into buying a Corvette when he can't afford it.

Richard Rawlings 50:46 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:46 I talked my friend Brendan into buying a GT3 RS.

Richard Rawlings 50:49 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:50 (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 50:50 So it's the same thing. I mean, I bought the car when I probably shouldn't, but the show was going and I was like, "This will make me work harder, so that-"

Joe Rogan 50:56 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 50:56 ... you know, it sits in the corner when I'm doing it. I get up in the morning, I look at it.

Joe Rogan 51:00 Look.

Richard Rawlings 51:00 I gotta, I gotta make sure that I can afford that, so let's go do it.

Joe Rogan 51:03 Dude, I believe in that wholeheartedly. And people say you're ridiculous, and I go, "Yeah."

Richard Rawlings 51:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:08 "Exactly."

Richard Rawlings 51:08 Well, when I was young, I was a ... When, when I first got into printing and advertising, uh, I, I ... Shit, I could barely make rent. I think I was buying my suits at, you know, a resale shop, but I would go to Neiman's and look around and, you know, and, and think about what I was gonna buy. It, uh, just putting the motivation in my head, you know. I guess there's a big movement now with making your imagination board or whatever. Well, my-

Joe Rogan 51:29 Those people are assholes.

Richard Rawlings 51:29 Yeah, my shit just wanted to be real. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:31 You don't need that. Just put it in your head. That I d- that vision board-

Richard Rawlings 51:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:34 ... uh, I get it if you're 20 and you're doing that, you don't know any better.

Richard Rawlings 51:38 Yeah, my vision board's a, you know, the, uh, the old poster of the rock band with some weed in their, you know- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:44 (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 51:44 And that looks like a great vision. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:46 Yeah, that's the real vision board. I, I, yeah, I, I'm a big believer in, in, in doing, uh, uh ... This is what I say to someone who can buy ... if you can actually buy a Ferrari, I'm like, "Listen, man, if you don't, who will? If you're a- an 18-year-old kid and you got no money, and you said, 'Man, if I had enough by- to buy a Ferrari, oh God, I'd be so happy. I would buy that thing,' well, you should do it if you can."

Richard Rawlings 52:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:10 "If you can, you should do it. And is it, is it too much money? Yeah, it's, it's definitely too much money. That's part of the whole, part, point of the whole thing."

Richard Rawlings 52:17 Correct.

Joe Rogan 52:17 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 52:18 I mean, it's, it's-

Joe Rogan 52:19 Excess.

Richard Rawlings 52:19 To me, I use it more as motivation.

Joe Rogan 52:21 Yes.

Richard Rawlings 52:21 You know, can I afford this? And then if you, if you tell yourself no, you go, "Well, then I'm going to."

Joe Rogan 52:26 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 52:27 "I'm, I'm going to afford it."

Joe Rogan 52:28 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 52:28 "I'm gonna figure it out."

Joe Rogan 52:29 Exact- I feel that way about everything.

Richard Rawlings 52:31 S- so do I. That's been my mantra forever. That's ... People are like, "Oh, you know, you got lucky you did this, you did that." I'm like, "I worked my fucking ass off my whole life."

Joe Rogan 52:38 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 52:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:39 Well, you definitely got lucky you didn't get hit by a meteor. You got lucky for a lot of things. You got-

Richard Rawlings 52:42 Well, yeah. Yeah. Y-

Joe Rogan 52:43 You got lucky you, you didn't get home invaded. You got a lot, a lot of luck.

Richard Rawlings 52:46 Yeah, but-

Joe Rogan 52:46 There's a lot of luck.

Richard Rawlings 52:47 But I'll tell you, your, your, your past guest, uh, Mr. Uh, Elon Musk there, he kind of ruined it for us because now we actually have a possibility of getting in a car wreck in space.

Joe Rogan 52:57 Yeah, you could get in a car wreck in space 'cause that car is just floating around out there.

Richard Rawlings 53:00 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:00 What if that car slams into a fucking alien spaceship that's coming to save us, and Elon Musk just frivolously shot that fucking thing into orbit?

Richard Rawlings 53:08 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:09 He did. He just shot it up there, and they let him with a robot sitting in the front seat. You know, we were joking around about like, what if that guy in the front seat is actually a guy who fucked his wife and he decided-

Richard Rawlings 53:19 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:19 ... to kill that guy and stick him in a fucking spacesuit and shoot him into orbit?

Richard Rawlings 53:23 See, I don't get that. Why do you wanna be mad at the guy if he does that?

Joe Rogan 53:26 (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 53:26 You gotta be mad at your wife. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:27 I agree. I'm with you on, I'm with you on that, too.

Richard Rawlings 53:30 I couldn't be like-

Joe Rogan 53:31 I wouldn't be mad. If I came home and a dude was banging my wife, I'd go, "Listen, bro."

Richard Rawlings 53:34 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:34 "I get it. You, though-"

Richard Rawlings 53:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:36 "... you gotta go." (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 53:37 Me and your gun talk. Depends on what he looks like, too. I mean, if he's like Aquaman, I'd be l- to her, I'd tell her, "I get it."

Joe Rogan 53:46 Yeah. Sometimes you gotta do that.

Richard Rawlings 53:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:48 You go, "I get it."

Richard Rawlings 53:48 But, uh, but, uh, yeah, um ... Oh, we're going again?

Joe Rogan 53:53 We're going again, bro. Come on.

Richard Rawlings 53:54 This does, this stuff will sneak up on you. (slurps)

Joe Rogan 53:57 I've been getting snuck up on since the '80s.

Richard Rawlings 53:59 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 54:00 Salute.

Richard Rawlings 54:04 Perfect.

Joe Rogan 54:05 Woo.

Richard Rawlings 54:06 It's so good, though, isn't it?

Joe Rogan 54:07 It is good. It's smooth. I like the cinnamon, too.

Richard Rawlings 54:10 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's-

Joe Rogan 54:11 Now, now for real.

Richard Rawlings 54:12 ... it's a party drink.

Joe Rogan 54:12 For a real tequila enthusiast, though, is that like sacrilege? Is that like an electric Mustang?

Richard Rawlings 54:18 Oh, yeah. Uh, but that's what the Monkey has always done.

Joe Rogan 54:21 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 54:21 You know, it's like, uh, I'm playing the golf thing. I decided to launch Gas Monkey Golf, uh, apparel line. And, uh-

Joe Rogan 54:28 (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 54:28 ... so I'll be wearing my golf shirt out there, and it's, it's pretty crazy. It's, uh, got a skull and all kinds of crap or whatever. But, uh, whether I'm pushing the envelope, as the Monkeys are ... Tagline is snapping tees and filling holes.

Joe Rogan 54:42 (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 54:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 54:43 Now, when you bring that to the country club, do people say, "Sir, that attire is unforgivable here."

Richard Rawlings 54:48 Oh, yeah. For sure.

Joe Rogan 54:49 At, at cautious states.

Richard Rawlings 54:49 I've been thrown out of my own country club plenty of times.

Joe Rogan 54:51 Have you really?

Richard Rawlings 54:52 And I've bought a lot of golf carts 'cause I've crashed them, 'cause I thought it was fun. And (laughs) -

Joe Rogan 54:56 You got thrown out of your own country club?

Richard Rawlings 54:58 A bunch of times. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 54:59 Really? For what?

Richard Rawlings 55:00 Just raising too much hell.... uh, you know, I'm the, uh, you know, almost like the old Rodney Dangerfield movies, you know. It's like, "Sir, you can't do that in here." And it's like, "Ha, well, I'm gonna do it twice." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:11 Caddyshack.

Richard Rawlings 55:12 It-

Joe Rogan 55:12 That's all-time.

Richard Rawlings 55:13 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 55:14 Yeah. Now, what do they say to you?

Richard Rawlings 55:16 Uh, just, uh, you know, they usually just take me home 'cause, you know, I live on the course, so they'll drive me down there. Uh-

Joe Rogan 55:22 Oh, so you, you have a house on the course? Oh, that's nice.

Richard Rawlings 55:25 I did. I live downtown in Dallas now. But, uh, um, the worst one was I decided to drive my Harley home on the golf course one night from it.

Joe Rogan 55:33 On the grass?

Richard Rawlings 55:34 No, I, I stayed in the cart path. I'm not a complete asshole. But, uh, I did drive it home at about 1:30 or 2:00 in the morning, and my house is probably the furthest house from the clubhouse. And that thing is freaking loud when you're in that, you know, this trench of a golf course.

Joe Rogan 55:49 Right.

Richard Rawlings 55:50 The cops were waiting on me when I got home.

Joe Rogan 55:52 (sighs) .

Richard Rawlings 55:53 But thank God they were rent-a-cops. I was like, "You can't do anything. I'm going inside."

Joe Rogan 55:57 Fake, fake golf course cops?

Richard Rawlings 55:58 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:58 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 55:58 You know, the community cops.

Joe Rogan 56:00 Community cops. That's adorable.

Richard Rawlings 56:02 I had a good one for you. I actually got arrested at this country club, well, at my house, for, uh, I wouldn't say arrested 'cause they ended up letting me go, but they did come cuff me and put me away. Um, the, um, we're coming home, uh, from a Christmas extravaganza, which I do with my buddies every year right before Christmas. We get a big car and pile in, and we go Christmas shopping for our families and what have you. Coming home loaded. I supposedly threw a burrito from, like, Taco Bell or something and hit the guard.

Joe Rogan 56:35 (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 56:35 So there's four, three or four of my buddies. We get to my house, we pig out on shitty Taco Bell food, you know, until everybody passes out. And the next thing I know, the cop lights are on, banging on the door, "Get out here." I, I come to the door going, "Why?" You know? I mean, you know, after you've been drinking and you do a bunch of, uh, food, you're fucking gone. And, uh, so long story short, they said, "Well, you're gonna be arrested for assault if you don't go down and, and, uh, say that you're sorry to this guy."

Joe Rogan 57:01 Assault with a burrito?

Richard Rawlings 57:02 Correct, right? And by then, and so-

Joe Rogan 57:04 Listen, if you charge a man with assault because he throws a burrito at you, you should, you should turn in your card.

Richard Rawlings 57:11 But it, it, we, we watched the tape. It, it was not like throwing it at him. It's not like I barreled him with a baseball right here. I, like, chunked it to him to eat, but he didn't see it coming, and so it, like, slapped him and fell down.

Joe Rogan 57:20 (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 57:20 So they, they cuffed me, they take me down to the guardhouse.

Joe Rogan 57:23 They cuffed you?

Richard Rawlings 57:24 Yeah, they put me in the back of the cop car, cuffed me.

Joe Rogan 57:26 Fake cops?

Richard Rawlings 57:27 No, these are real ones.

Joe Rogan 57:28 Oh, real cops.

Richard Rawlings 57:28 Yeah, he filed a report.

Joe Rogan 57:29 Oh, God.

Richard Rawlings 57:30 And, uh, so (laughs) this is how stupid it gets.

Joe Rogan 57:33 Shame.

Richard Rawlings 57:33 By then, I'm so freaking loaded, right? And I get there and the burrito's still on the ground like it's evidence or some shit.

Joe Rogan 57:40 (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 57:40 And they're telling me I gotta apologize to this guy, and all I can focus on is, "There's a perfectly good fucking burrito right here."

Joe Rogan 57:46 (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 57:46 "I'm gonna eat this burrito." So I sit down and literally start eating the burrito.

Joe Rogan 57:51 Oh, God.

Richard Rawlings 57:51 And they're like, "Please just tell him you're sorry so you can go back home." (laughs) And I'm like, "Okay." So I tell him I'm sorry. I'm still eating the burrito, and they just left me there, like, a mile from my house at the guard shack.

Joe Rogan 58:02 (laughs) You walked home a mile drunk.

Richard Rawlings 58:06 Yes. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:06 Well, did you see the guy since then?

Richard Rawlings 58:08 Oh, gosh, no. I was like, "Dude, that was, uh, perfectly..." I mean, back, this was in the days before the Sprinters were so popular.

Joe Rogan 58:14 Mm-hmm.

Richard Rawlings 58:14 So it was, like, a stretch limo, which is, you know, you just really don't ride it anymore.

Joe Rogan 58:18 Right.

Richard Rawlings 58:18 And I was like, "That is a hell of a shot. I came out of the back window 120 inches up to the front and hit the guy square in the fucking chest. I should get a medal for that."

Joe Rogan 58:27 Ugh. Assault.

Richard Rawlings 58:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:29 What kind of a man-

Richard Rawlings 58:31 Might be a plus in here. Assault with a burrito is, is probably the first time we've had that i- here in your, uh, little, uh, podcast room.

Joe Rogan 58:37 I definitely think it's the first time. Uh, it, it seems like you'd just be able to say, "Hey, I just, I threw it to you 'cause I was drunk and I thought you were hungry."

Richard Rawlings 58:46 It's, it's really what it was. It was more-

Joe Rogan 58:47 Yeah, a chunk.

Richard Rawlings 58:47 I, I mean, you can hear me on the video going, "Hey, you want a burrito?" (laughs) You know?

Joe Rogan 58:51 Right.

Richard Rawlings 58:51 And, uh, it, it was pretty ridiculous. The guy got his van card yanked for sure.

Joe Rogan 58:56 Yeah, what someone calls assault. Like, how dare you? Some people get beat into a pulp and you're calling a Taco Bell burrito flying your way.

Richard Rawlings 59:04 That thing costs a dollar 99, dude.

Joe Rogan 59:07 (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 59:08 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:08 And it's barely meat.

Richard Rawlings 59:09 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:10 We, we were going over, like, how much of ta- like, there's a, a, a ruling on how much meat it actually has to be where you can call it a beef burrito, but there's fillers in that shit. Like, what is the filler? It was, like, silicone or something like that. But it's something ridiculous, like 34% of it is not actually meat.

Richard Rawlings 59:30 Ugh. That's why... I mean, ugh. That was 10 years ago.

Joe Rogan 59:34 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 59:34 Yeah. Back then, it was probably-

Joe Rogan 59:35 I just don't eat fast food anymore. 80% before the internet. (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 59:38 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:38 They just, they can pretend it's meat. I mean-

Richard Rawlings 59:40 Well, the cool thing, Taco Bell now is starting to open all their ones up with, uh, bars inside there.

Joe Rogan 59:45 What?

Richard Rawlings 59:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:46 That's, well, that's good for business, you know? Get people more drunk so they don't care what the food tastes like.

Richard Rawlings 59:50 Exactly. Get them all tanked up, feed them some burritos, and send them on their way.

Joe Rogan 59:53 I haven't eaten Taco Bell in decades.

Richard Rawlings 59:55 It's been since then, you know? It's a while. I-

Joe Rogan 59:58 There's some real legit Me- 'cause we're in LA. I mean, you're in Texas, but there's legit Mexican places near you, I'm sure.

Richard Rawlings 1:00:04 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:04 But, like, there's legit taquerias here where, you know, you go in there and Mexican soap operas are playing. Nobody speaks English.

Richard Rawlings 1:00:10 Novelas.

Joe Rogan 1:00:11 You gotta point to shit and say things. You gotta roll your Rs. Lengua, lengua quesadilla.

Richard Rawlings 1:00:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:17 You, you gotta speak the lingo.

Richard Rawlings 1:00:18 See, I can't do the lengua stuff. That, that, that's the, the tongue, right?

Joe Rogan 1:00:21 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 1:00:22 I can't do that.

Joe Rogan 1:00:22 It's the shit.

Richard Rawlings 1:00:23 Oh, I don't like it.

Joe Rogan 1:00:24 You never haven't? No?

Richard Rawlings 1:00:25 No, I have tried everything. I mean-

Joe Rogan 1:00:26 Oh, man, you gotta try elk tongue tacos.

Richard Rawlings 1:00:30 I just... Why?

Joe Rogan 1:00:31 For they're fucking delicious.

Richard Rawlings 1:00:33 I don't know.

Joe Rogan 1:00:33 It's so good. It's t- it's the most, one of the most tender meats you could ever have. Like, the most tender pot roast ever.

Richard Rawlings 1:00:40 Really? Well...

Joe Rogan 1:00:40 It's amazing.

Richard Rawlings 1:00:41 If I ever get a chance.

Joe Rogan 1:00:42 There's a, there's a place right here on Canoga, like maybe a, a few miles away from here. How good is that place, Jamie?

Richard Rawlings 1:00:47 When I come to California, I'm not trying to get some elk tongue, I promise you. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:00:50 Well, elk t- elk tongue is in the freezer, but the l- the cow tongue is what they have out here.

Richard Rawlings 1:00:56 Yeah, cow tongue. Elk tongue is mine. (clears throat)

Joe Rogan 1:00:59 But, uh, lengua quesadillas, you don't, you don't fuck with that?

Richard Rawlings 1:01:02 Mm-mm.

Joe Rogan 1:01:03 Lengua tacos?

Richard Rawlings 1:01:03 Uh, no.

Joe Rogan 1:01:04 No?

Richard Rawlings 1:01:04 And I don't do the, uh, whatever that milk drink is. What do they call that?

Joe Rogan 1:01:07 Oh, horchata?

Richard Rawlings 1:01:08 Yeah, no.

Joe Rogan 1:01:09 Horchata's rough, 'cause, you know, there's no fucking safety standards with that. No one knows what's in there-

Richard Rawlings 1:01:14 E- it could be-

Joe Rogan 1:01:14 ... could be anything.

Richard Rawlings 1:01:15 Yeah. It's, it's like really-

Joe Rogan 1:01:16 It's at least-

Richard Rawlings 1:01:16 ... shitty eggnog, and eggnog is shitty. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01:18 It's at least six percent jizz too. At least.

Richard Rawlings 1:01:21 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01:21 For sure. (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 1:01:23 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:01:23 Depen- depending on who's working there-

Richard Rawlings 1:01:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:25 ... and how disgruntled. Yeah. Um, do you ... but you do carne asada, right?

Richard Rawlings 1:01:30 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:31 Yeah, yeah.

Richard Rawlings 1:01:31 Yeah. I've got a, I've got a couple of bars and restaurants down in Texas, and so we sell a, a lot of Tex-Mex fusion and-

Joe Rogan 1:01:36 Tex-Mex is a different kinda flavor. It's a different thing.

Richard Rawlings 1:01:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:40 Yeah. Like, people that don't know, like, uh, what, uh, queso is, you know, like, queso in Texas is like a staple.

Richard Rawlings 1:01:47 Correct.

Joe Rogan 1:01:48 Yeah. Out here, no one knows what the fuck queso is. You say, "I wanna get some queso and chips." They're like, "What the fuck are you talking about?"

Richard Rawlings 1:01:53 Danny Trejos does.

Joe Rogan 1:01:55 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. There's a few places.

Richard Rawlings 1:01:56 Get you some queso. But I like the, the-

Joe Rogan 1:01:58 There's a few legit Mexican places.

Richard Rawlings 1:01:58 I like a real good legit elotes, you know, with the corn, with all...

Joe Rogan 1:02:02 Mm-hmm.

Richard Rawlings 1:02:02 ... with the mayonnaise and the...

Joe Rogan 1:02:03 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 1:02:03 ... sour cream in there.

Joe Rogan 1:02:04 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 1:02:05 I could get down on some of that, for sure.

Joe Rogan 1:02:06 Texas is a different fucking country. It really is.

Richard Rawlings 1:02:09 Well, like, where I'm at in, uh ... in Dallas, uh, literally, I can go to the corner gas station and there's a lady there just sawing the, the corn off the cob and puts it in the...

Joe Rogan 1:02:17 Mm-hmm.

Richard Rawlings 1:02:17 ... Styrofoam cup and squirts all the crap in there, and...

Joe Rogan 1:02:19 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 1:02:19 I could make myself sick on that stuff.

Joe Rogan 1:02:21 Yeah. Yeah. There's Te- ... I wonder what Tex ... why Tex-Mex is so much different. 'Cause there's no California Mex, right? But Tex-Mex is a legit-

Richard Rawlings 1:02:31 We all would never allow that word to be said anyways. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:33 California Mex? Well, it doesn't flow off the tongue.

Richard Rawlings 1:02:35 Well, you probably just pissed off 72,000 people. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:37 Hmm. That's just a regular podcast for me.

Richard Rawlings 1:02:40 I know, right? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:42 (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 1:02:42 He said California Mex.

Joe Rogan 1:02:44 (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 1:02:44 Try ordering li- lies and plate.

Joe Rogan 1:02:45 California is Mexico, asshole.

Richard Rawlings 1:02:48 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:48 We stole it.

Richard Rawlings 1:02:50 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:50 We stole it from the Mexicans.

Richard Rawlings 1:02:54 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 1:02:54 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 1:02:55 What do you think about this wall bullshit?

Joe Rogan 1:02:58 Open it up. Let all those poor people in here. Give them jobs. I don't give a fuck.

Richard Rawlings 1:03:02 Tax it. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:02 Yeah. I, I, I, I mean, I don't want criminals. I don't want criminals coming through. How about we filter out gang members and criminals? Just ... But I wish there was a way to tell. I wish there was a way to tell.

Richard Rawlings 1:03:13 There's not.

Joe Rogan 1:03:13 There's not. I wish there was a way to tell whether someone's a piece of shit and a criminal. I wish there was. And ... Or if someone's just poor, 'cause there's a lot of ... Like, for sure both sides are right. This is how I look at it. For sure the people that don't want criminals coming in here are right. For sure the people that want border control to keep out gang members and drug dealers and evil people, they're right, 100%.

Richard Rawlings 1:03:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:37 Look, I'm, I'm a fucking American taxpayer. I have a family. I, I ... Fucking salute, right? I, I believe in the law. I, I, I believe in all those things. But also, my f- my grandparents were immigrants, all of them. Everybody that I ... that is related to me came over from Europe. They all came over from Italy and Ireland, all of them. They all came over because their life sucked. They want a better place. If someone walks here from Guatemala, they don't walk here because they're lazy.

Richard Rawlings 1:04:09 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:09 They walk here because they want a better life. This can't-

Richard Rawlings 1:04:12 That's what America's made for. So I say-

Joe Rogan 1:04:13 Yes.

Richard Rawlings 1:04:13 ... let them in.

Joe Rogan 1:04:14 I say let them in too, but I wish there was a better way to screen out the cunts. If there was a better way to screen out the real shitty human beings, to re- to, to stop, that would be ... that would be ideal.

Richard Rawlings 1:04:26 We need a Cunt Screener.

Joe Rogan 1:04:27 A Cunt Screener is the way to go.

Richard Rawlings 1:04:29 I'm gonna fucking tag that right now.

Joe Rogan 1:04:30 But this ... it doesn't exist right now.

Richard Rawlings 1:04:32 If any of my people are, uh, listening-

Joe Rogan 1:04:33 But-

Richard Rawlings 1:04:33 ... makesureyoubuythat.com.

Joe Rogan 1:04:34 But the whole thing that all these fucking government workers aren't getting paid right now because of a wall, "Oh, Jesus." And there's a billionaire ... Uh, you know, Donald, you believe in the wall that much, take five billion out of your fucking account, shove those shackles towards the wall.

Richard Rawlings 1:04:51 He doesn't have five billion.

Joe Rogan 1:04:51 How much does he have, you think?

Richard Rawlings 1:04:52 They say he's got three, but it's all paper, I think.

Joe Rogan 1:04:56 Right.

Richard Rawlings 1:04:56 It's all just, like, smoke and mirrors.

Joe Rogan 1:04:58 Ones and zeros somewhere.

Richard Rawlings 1:04:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:00 It's like his hair. (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 1:05:04 (laughs) But you know what? We elected him, so we gotta deal with it.

Joe Rogan 1:05:08 Yeah. Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 1:05:09 And in ... And in our case, he was the better choice, so ...

Joe Rogan 1:05:12 He was the better choice of, uh ... This is why he's the better choice, 'cause you realize that our system is completely hosed, that like ... that this guy could get in there and, "Build that wall! Lock her up!" And everybody's like, "Check." (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 1:05:22 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:05:23 Ka-chunk. (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 1:05:24 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:05:25 And it's like ... It's, it's a ... It's, it's a good, it's a good example of how our system is the best, best system in the world, for sure. This, uh, whole experiment in self-government is the best, uh, on the planet Earth, w- without a doubt. But this guy, it's not his fault. That is who he is. But he exploited it. He showed everybody.

Richard Rawlings 1:05:46 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:47 He showed everybody the holes in this fucking goofy system.

Richard Rawlings 1:05:49 Well, I know, but it's ... he's a reality star. I mean, maybe-

Joe Rogan 1:05:51 Yeah.

Richard Rawlings 1:05:51 ... I could be president one day. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:05:53 You could. You and me.

Richard Rawlings 1:05:55 We could ... Let's run.

Joe Rogan 1:05:56 100%.

Richard Rawlings 1:05:56 It's the ticket.

Joe Rogan 1:05:57 If we did-

Richard Rawlings 1:05:57 The Rogan Rawlings ticket.

Joe Rogan 1:05:58 We d- ... We could win.

Richard Rawlings 1:05:59 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:05:59 And I'm not bullshitting. You know we could win.

Richard Rawlings 1:06:02 I could do that.

Joe Rogan 1:06:02 Dude, they did some fucking Vegas odds, and they found out that I have better chances of winning than a lot of people.

Richard Rawlings 1:06:09 That would be freaking rad.

Joe Rogan 1:06:11 Yeah. There's like a whole, like, list of people who I had better ... I had like a one-

Richard Rawlings 1:06:14 I wanna see you just, like, throwing them out. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:06:18 (laughs)

Richard Rawlings 1:06:18 I got this.

Joe Rogan 1:06:19 But see, it's, you know. I mean, no, no one's gonna ... Y- yeah.