Joe Rogan Experience #1249 - Donnell Rawlings

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   Oh, shit. (paper rustling) Fuck.…

   1. DRDonnell Rawlings0:00

      Oh, shit. (paper rustling) Fuck.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:01

      That thing fall off? Those pieces of shit.

   3. DRDonnell Rawlings0:04

      See, this is when you're too fancy, bro.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:05

      Yeah, they don't really... Yeah, they get too fancy. Yeah, whatever.

   5. DRDonnell Rawlings0:09

      Oof.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:09

      This one, we got another one.

   7. DRDonnell Rawlings0:11

      Oh, wow.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      We're live already? (laughs) Yeah. I hit it when you said go.

   9. DRDonnell Rawlings0:14

      (coughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:14

       Whoops. Sorry. Uh, cheers, sir.

   11. DRDonnell Rawlings0:17

       Thank you.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:18

       My pleasure. My pleasure. Hmm. (liquid pouring) Don't know, we were talking about, uh, the different kinds of comedians that there really are. Like, meme comedians, they're, they're comedians. They have a s- a special skill set. It's a different thing.

   13. DRDonnell Rawlings0:31

       They have a, they have a special skill set. In fact, one of my closest friends, Bearded Humor, he's like, um, I would say if he was a standup comic, he would probably be, be in my s- top five in terms of creativity, in terms of, uh, uh, talking about things in the moment and just all-out funny. You know, the skill set for a standup man, it used to be... (coughs) I started 25 years ago. It used to be the only way you proved yourself as a person with any type of comedic integrity while I was on stage standing flat-footed in front of an audience that you probably n- n- n- don't want you to be funny or know have, have no idea you're gonna be funny. But these meme, these meme people in Photoshop, especially 'cause our attention is so quick and so drawn to social med- media, people... I don't even know if people are as excited about standup as they used to be, and now it's excitement about what's gonna be the newest thing, what's gonna be the, what's gonna be the hottest photo to Photoshop and what's gonna be the hottest image.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:27

       Well, that's the easiest to get, right? It's easier to get it on your phone. You get those images, the Photoshops and the memes that are funny that hit you immediately. But I think-

   15. DRDonnell Rawlings1:35

       Right.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:35

       ... right now, I mean, it, especially when you go to The Store, don't you think there's, like, more people interested in standup now than ever?

   17. DRDonnell Rawlings1:41

       Yeah. But it's so... We, we in a, we in a t- in a tricky place. Now, people are interested in it, but people are so... They're more critical of standup now more than ever, ever. There used to be a time when you could just say, uh, what you wanted and people say they, that person was outspoken, outrageous, but they were themselves. But now you tell one joke, uh, one blogger, one troller dissects your jokes and prints your jokes. Don't do the setup.

   18. JRJoe Rogan2:10

       Yeah.

   19. DRDonnell Rawlings2:10

       Don't do the callback. Don't do the tag. And next thing you know, you offended somebody.

   20. JRJoe Rogan2:14

       Yeah.

   21. DRDonnell Rawlings2:15

       But I think with a lot of events that happen today, uh, that are happening now, comedy's gonna start taking a, a shift back to people with honest voices.

   22. JRJoe Rogan2:25

       I think so, too. I think there's a direct backlash to, like, political correct thinking and the, the type of, uh, policing that you're seeing. You're seeing, like, police-

   23. DRDonnell Rawlings2:35

       And you're being policed. I mean, you're p- I under- I understand police and stuff in a Catholic church, police, p- police and stuff in a regular church. But you go to a comedy club to police, you're in the wrong place.

   24. JRJoe Rogan2:46

       Yeah.

   25. DRDonnell Rawlings2:46

       And nine times out of ten, people that go to a comedy show that walk out and protest, v- their mindset was to protest before they even went there.

   26. JRJoe Rogan2:55

       Yeah.

   27. DRDonnell Rawlings2:55

       They're just waiting for the trigger word just to be like, "Well, I never," and they leave.

   28. JRJoe Rogan2:59

       Well, it's a way to get a lot of attention. You know, being outraged at something, especially if you kinda have a point. Like, if you could, you could ar- articulate that point.

   29. DRDonnell Rawlings3:06

       Right.

   30. JRJoe Rogan3:07

       It's a great way to get attention. You know?
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yeah. That's- that's a…

   1. DRDonnell Rawlings15:00

      listening were, being very sarcastic when I say that, they're gonna be like second guessing the storyline of so many of those shows, the storylines of everybody who ever said that they were done wrong or anything. You... The awful thing about this is now people are gonna be ready and quick to just second guess anything that you say.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:18

      Yeah. That's- that's a fact. Til we can read each other's minds, til we can find out for sure. That's gonna change the whole game.

   3. DRDonnell Rawlings15:25

      Be in everybody's mind?

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:26

      Yeah.

   5. DRDonnell Rawlings15:27

      That's definitely gonna eliminate a lot of street fights.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:30

      Pfft. Most of them.

   7. DRDonnell Rawlings15:31

      I mean, you talk about your-

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:32

      Yeah.

   9. DRDonnell Rawlings15:32

      ... your imminent danger senses are gonna be up 100%-

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:35

       Yeah.

   11. DRDonnell Rawlings15:35

       ... if you could read somebody's mind.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:37

       Yeah. Yeah.

   13. DRDonnell Rawlings15:39

       I don't know if I would wanna do that.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:40

       I do. I'm in.

   15. DRDonnell Rawlings15:41

       I like having secrets.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:42

       I'm all in. I like having secrets too, but I like going all in. I think all in. I think, I think it's just inevitable. We were talking about it in the last podcast about there's something they're gonna be able to shoot into your neck. Uh, what did he say? The way he described it?

   17. GUGuest15:54

       Yeah, like an injection that will take over, sort of.

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:57

       Well, t- but what, the way it interacts with your brain cells.

   19. GUGuest15:59

       It's a thread.

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:00

       Yeah.

   21. GUGuest16:00

       It's okay.

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:01

       Thread itself into your brain cells. So literally like having ... I think we're gonna have built in wifi internet systems where we're connected to each other's heads.

   23. DRDonnell Rawlings16:09

       So this what people request or it's like a s- a study they wanna try out on people? Or you could just go to your doctor and say, "Shoot me with the brain shit."

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:17

       I think eventually it's gonna be shoot me with the brain shit. First you gotta get it on a clinical trial. (laughs)

   25. DRDonnell Rawlings16:21

       Right. (laughs)

   26. GUGuest16:21

       (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:21

       First you gotta be able to be a gu- be a gu-

   28. DRDonnell Rawlings16:22

       But who do you get for that? Like heroin addicts or crackheads?

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:25

       (laughs)

   30. DRDonnell Rawlings16:25

       Who do you get for that? Like, who is close to no brain cells and shit and that's the one we try it on?
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Well, you have a,…

   1. DRDonnell Rawlings30:00

      And every time motherfuckers say, "Action" in a situation, you gotta show up.

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:04

      Well, you have a, a great ability to express yourself on stage and on, and on, on TV. Some people feel uncomfortable, they just like to be cool while they're telling the jokes.

   3. DRDonnell Rawlings30:14

      Right.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:14

      Like, some people have that style. Like, your style is big, you know? And I, I appreciate... You know, have, you ever see Jim Breuer?

   5. DRDonnell Rawlings30:22

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:22

      I saw Jim Breuer, like, the first time I saw him, we were real young.

   7. DRDonnell Rawlings30:25

      Young Jim Breuer?

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:26

      Yeah, we were real young.

   9. DRDonnell Rawlings30:27

      And my manager, Jason Steinberg, says what's up too.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:29

       Oh, tell him I said, "What's up?"

   11. DRDonnell Rawlings30:30

       No doubt.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:31

       When I, when I first saw Breuer, he's so physical.

   13. DRDonnell Rawlings30:33

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:33

       And I remember seeing, I remember thinking-

   15. DRDonnell Rawlings30:34

       You get tired watching him.

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:35

       (laughs)

   17. NANarrator30:36

       I know. (laughs)

   18. DRDonnell Rawlings30:36

       You're like... I remember, I remember Jim Breuer at like Boston Comedy Club days.

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:39

       Yes.

   20. NANarrator30:40

       Yes.

   21. DRDonnell Rawlings30:40

       I mean, when you... I mean, that's why when you mentioned-

   22. JRJoe Rogan30:42

       Yeah.

   23. DRDonnell Rawlings30:42

       ... his name, I was like-

   24. JRJoe Rogan30:43

       Yeah.

   25. DRDonnell Rawlings30:43

       ... "Which J- Jim Breuer are we speaking of?" (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan30:46

       Which J- your Jim Breuer.

   27. DRDonnell Rawlings30:47

       Your dad Jim Breuer.

   28. JRJoe Rogan30:47

       I mean, even today, our dad, Jim Breuer, today-

   29. DRDonnell Rawlings30:50

       Right.

   30. JRJoe Rogan30:50

       ... I mean, he's still real energetic, man.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   I consider you a…

   1. DRDonnell Rawlings45:00

      animal. And I, and the reason why I say that, you're a great comic. I consider myself a great comic. You-

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:09

      I consider you a great comic.

   3. DRDonnell Rawlings45:10

      I appreciate it. And with that said, like, I... We do have egos. Like as much as people talk about somebody, y- in your smile, you're like, "I'm great too, motherfucker." But, and I was like, and I, one day I was watching Dave on stage and I'm like, "What makes this motherfucker great?" And I think, in my opinion, what makes him great is like, it's not too often that we have our opportunity to have a Muhammad Ali moment. And when I say that, I mean a moment where you got to throw everything on the table. It's your integrity, your moral beliefs. What do I want to stand on? What do I want to stand for? And that's how some people get a- attached. Of course, Muhammad Ali was the greatest, but it wasn't just in the boxing ring what made him great. It's what he stood for. And I think when I look at Dave Chappelle and I look at his standup and I look at his career and I say, "What made him great?" And that's, and that's a person, their stand and they belief is going to give you their unfiltered truth, and they own it. And don't compromise and don't back down to anything.

   4. JRJoe Rogan46:10

      Well, he unders-

   5. DRDonnell Rawlings46:11

      You know?

   6. JRJoe Rogan46:11

      He understands what's important about standup, especially the type of standup that he does. He has to have-

   7. DRDonnell Rawlings46:15

      Having a voice.

   8. JRJoe Rogan46:16

      ... full freedom.

   9. DRDonnell Rawlings46:17

      Yep. That's how you, you... I've s- I've heard you say shit on stage. I'm like, "That white boy must can fight." (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan46:24

       (laughs)

   11. DRDonnell Rawlings46:25

       Certain white dudes, you be like, "This is... What the fuck just happened, son?" Like, that motherfucker got some suplex or something, you know?

   12. JRJoe Rogan46:31

       Uh-huh. (laughs)

   13. DRDonnell Rawlings46:32

       He knows how to hit you, like, you know, like in a certain part of your neck and your whole shit is fucked up, you know?

   14. JRJoe Rogan46:39

       (laughs)

   15. DRDonnell Rawlings46:39

       But those are people who own it. Uh, Tony... I was telling you about Tony Hinchcliffe.

   16. JRJoe Rogan46:42

       Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   17. DRDonnell Rawlings46:44

       He was doing this joke about, uh, what's the card motherfucker? The, um, pedophile dude.

   18. JRJoe Rogan46:49

       Oh, Jared from Subway.

   19. DRDonnell Rawlings46:51

       Not Jared from Subway.

   20. JRJoe Rogan46:52

       He's got a joke about Jared from Subway? (laughs)

   21. DRDonnell Rawlings46:53

       No, he got another, other pedophile motherfucker.

   22. JRJoe Rogan46:55

       Another one?

   23. DRDonnell Rawlings46:56

       Uh-

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:56

       Who's the other pedophile?

   25. DRDonnell Rawlings46:57

       The other one, he's a big actor. Big time actor. He had a Netflix show.

   26. JRJoe Rogan47:01

       Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Uh, Spacey. Kevin Spacey.

   27. DRDonnell Rawlings47:03

       The, the whack off at the bar dude.

   28. JRJoe Rogan47:05

       Kevin Spacey.

   29. DRDonnell Rawlings47:06

       Yeah. Man, Tony watch this-

   30. JRJoe Rogan47:07

       Oh my god, that bit is crazy.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:05:52

   (audience laughing) I ain't scared…

   1. DRDonnell Rawlings1:00:00

      Bernie Mac... He came on the year before that, and I think he thought he was dressed too old. He had like a Steve Harvey suit on, so he wanted to appeal to the youth a little bit more. That's why he got the graffiti thing. And he's backstage saying like, "This could change my career." Another motherfucker's career is over, and this is a real comedian, this first line out the motherfucking box.

   2. NANarrator1:00:17

      (audience laughing) I ain't scared of you motherfuckers. I'm gonna tell you something straight off the motherfucking press. I ain't come here for no foolishness. And New York, God damn it, y'all motherfucking women look good. Y'all like a bacon and egg sandwich. You look good.... love sex. I love it. Can't do shit no more.

   3. DRDonnell Rawlings1:00:35

      Look at they face, they bored.

   4. NANarrator1:00:37

      And I'm blessed. (audience laughing) (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:42

      Oh, yeah. We gotta ... Are there ... We're getting kicked off YouTube if we keep playing it?

   6. DRDonnell Rawlings1:00:46

      Oh, man, th- but the buildup.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:49

      (laughs)

   8. DRDonnell Rawlings1:00:49

      When he first get that- when he first do that ...

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:53

      Yeah. (upbeat music)

   10. NANarrator1:00:54

       (audience applauding)

   11. DRDonnell Rawlings1:00:54

       Yeah, well-

   12. NANarrator1:00:56

       You don't understand.

   13. DRDonnell Rawlings1:00:57

       ... say it. He called back.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:58

       (laughs)

   15. NANarrator1:00:58

       I ain't scared of you motherfuckers.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:01:00

       Oh, man.

   17. DRDonnell Rawlings1:01:01

       That, you, you, now, you see the emotion of it.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:01:04

       Yeah.

   19. DRDonnell Rawlings1:01:04

       It was like, that, I, I, I guarantee the energy he wanted to have to rip was there. But the story, the backstory and being in that moment. And at the end of the day, who gonna be prepared for those moments, yo?

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:01:17

       Right.

   21. DRDonnell Rawlings1:01:18

       They, they, motherfucker's not built for that shit no more.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:01:20

       You gotta do reps.

   23. DRDonnell Rawlings1:01:21

       You gotta do reps. They not built for it. They got a motherfucking excuse for everything. You ever go to a motherfucker room and they be talking about, "How's the crowd?" Motherfucker, fuck the crowd. How are you? Oh, the ... Was the crowd lame? No, you were lame, bruh. It ain't they job, it's our motherfucking job.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:38

       Talkin' about going hard in the paint.

   25. DRDonnell Rawlings1:01:39

       No, I'm just saying, it's our fucking job.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:41

       You're right.

   27. DRDonnell Rawlings1:01:41

       And I've heard you in your podcast talk about no excuses. And I feel like the things you say about no excuses, yeah, it's easy to make an excuse, but at the end of the day, it's an excuse.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:50

       Yeah.

   29. DRDonnell Rawlings1:01:51

       You got two excuses. You got a good excuse and you got a bad excuse.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:54

       Well, you know what? You could have an explanation for failure with no excuse.

Episode duration: 2:44:06