Joe Rogan Experience #1251 - Tim Dillon

1. 0:00 – 2:46

   Ancient aliens vs. lost civilizations: where the evidence gets stretchy

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      And three, two, one. No? Yes? Okay. It's live.

   2. TDTim Dillon0:12

      Okay.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      W- it's been fucking up a little bit lately.

   4. TDTim Dillon0:14

      Yeah. I believe.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      How are you, man? What's going on?

   6. TDTim Dillon0:15

      Good. How are you?

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      Good to see you. Thanks for doing this.

   8. TDTim Dillon0:17

      Thanks for having me.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      My pleasure, my pleasure.

   10. TDTim Dillon0:18

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:19

       You brought me a, a nice conspiracy book.

   12. TDTim Dillon0:21

       I want you back.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:22

       Nice. (laughs)

   14. TDTim Dillon0:22

       I want you back. (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:24

       (laughs) I got bored with it.

   16. TDTim Dillon0:25

       I'm... Yeah, I get ya. I know.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       I just had a, uh, a-

   18. TDTim Dillon0:28

       (coughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       ... a lunch with-

   20. TDTim Dillon0:29

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       ... Erich von Däniken.

   22. TDTim Dillon0:31

       Oh, yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       And, uh, uh, he's the author of Chariots of the Gods. The last two hours we've been talking ancient aliens.

   24. TDTim Dillon0:36

       I was deep... When I was, like, in- in my late teens, I was deep in Zecharia Sitchin-

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       Yeah.

   26. TDTim Dillon0:41

       ... Anunnaki-

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       Yeah.

   28. TDTim Dillon0:43

       ... Nephilium. I'm pronouncing it wrong.

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       Yeah. Nephilium, I think.

   30. TDTim Dillon0:45

       Nephilium.
2. 2:46 – 6:20

   Ice Age cataclysms, the Sphinx dating debate, and Gobekli Tepe’s implications

   1. JRJoe Rogan2:46

      ... th- this, um, this theory that Dr. Robert Schoch has been putting forth. He- he was one of the weirder ones that I've had on the podcast. First of all, because he's a rock solid geologist.

   2. TDTim Dillon2:55

      Right.

   3. JRJoe Rogan2:55

      Professor at Boston University, like, really well-established. Uh, his credentials are, you know... They're- they're as good as it gets. And he was saying that he thinks that there was a mass coronal ejection somewhere around 12,000 years ago and it was literally raining lightning all over the world and just-

   4. TDTim Dillon3:14

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan3:14

      ... decimated the population of land mammals and- and people.

   6. TDTim Dillon3:18

      Is this what got the dinosaurs?

   7. JRJoe Rogan3:20

      No. No, no, no, no.

   8. TDTim Dillon3:21

      Okay.

   9. JRJoe Rogan3:21

      This is way later. This-

   10. TDTim Dillon3:22

       I apologize. (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan3:24

       (laughs) This is, like-

   12. TDTim Dillon3:24

       My bad.

   13. JRJoe Rogan3:25

       This is, uh, they think in the neighborhood of 12,000 years ago. They think this is... They-

   14. TDTim Dillon3:30

       Oh, so this is recent?

   15. JRJoe Rogan3:31

       Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   16. TDTim Dillon3:31

       Okay.

   17. JRJoe Rogan3:32

       Yeah. This is what Graham Hancock's work indicates as well. See, Graham Hancock and him worked together on the Sphinx because Robert Schoch was the geologist they brought in to examine the erosion marks on the, uh, temple of the Sphinx.

   18. TDTim Dillon3:47

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan3:47

       And his conclusion was that this is the result of thousands of years of rainfall.

   20. TDTim Dillon3:52

       Right.

   21. JRJoe Rogan3:52

       The problem with that was the last time there was significant rainfall in the Nile Valley was 9000 BC, so you'd have to have thousands of years before that to create these deep water-based fissures, or water-created fissures.

   22. TDTim Dillon4:05

       So they're saying the Sphinx was there a lot longer-

   23. JRJoe Rogan4:07

       A lot longer.

   24. TDTim Dillon4:07

       ... than we imagine.

   25. JRJoe Rogan4:08

       A lot longer. Yeah.

   26. TDTim Dillon4:08

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan4:08

       So that coincides with a lot of these... The- the- the people that want to push back the dates of civilization, what they think is... The- it all points to something big happening at the end of the Ice Age.

   28. TDTim Dillon4:20

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan4:20

       So something big happening between 12,000 and 10,000 years ago.

   30. TDTim Dillon4:24

       Why don't mainstream scientists just go... Now, I'm sure there's a reason for this and I think there's a reason that mainstream thought leaders in any area don't allow the fringe in.
3. 6:20 – 7:23

   Why conspiracies are addictive (and why they’re increasingly stigmatized)

   1. TDTim Dillon6:20

      It teaches you how to think.

   2. JRJoe Rogan6:22

      A little bit, yeah.

   3. TDTim Dillon6:22

      Like when I was a, a teenager, I was smoking weed with my buddies. Like, we would r-... You'd have to research these things. You'd have to cross-reference information.

   4. JRJoe Rogan6:31

      Yeah.

   5. TDTim Dillon6:31

      You couldn't just swallow the narrative. You had to literally go, "Well..." And then you'd have to use critical thinking to go, "Does this make sense?"

   6. JRJoe Rogan6:37

      Right.

   7. TDTim Dillon6:38

      "Would this have happened?"

   8. JRJoe Rogan6:39

      Right.

   9. TDTim Dillon6:39

      "Could... Maybe could Lee Harvey Oswald ha- would ha-" You know, "Would he have acted alone?" H- You know, you have to think about all these things.

   10. JRJoe Rogan6:46

       Yeah.

   11. TDTim Dillon6:47

       But, I mean, I, I do think since Trump got elected, conspiracy theorists have been demonized. And nobody talks-

   12. JRJoe Rogan6:53

       Because-

   13. TDTim Dillon6:53

       ... about that.

   14. JRJoe Rogan6:53

       Right. There's a little b-... Well, it was always going on.

   15. TDTim Dillon6:55

       It was, uh, y-

   16. JRJoe Rogan6:56

       Even before that they were being demonized. But yeah, for sure, because-

   17. TDTim Dillon6:58

       Everybody's worried about the other groups, which is fair.

   18. JRJoe Rogan7:00

       Yeah.

   19. TDTim Dillon7:00

       I get that.

   20. JRJoe Rogan7:01

       Yeah, yeah.

   21. TDTim Dillon7:01

       There's the people in the cage is no good. I'm not for any of that.

   22. JRJoe Rogan7:04

       People in the cage?

   23. TDTim Dillon7:05

       The, well, the kids in the cages is not good. You know what I mean?

   24. JRJoe Rogan7:07

       What do you mean?

   25. TDTim Dillon7:08

       The family separation.

   26. JRJoe Rogan7:09

       Oh, yeah.

   27. TDTim Dillon7:09

       At the border. All the... There's real stuff.

   28. JRJoe Rogan7:11

       Of course, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   29. TDTim Dillon7:12

       But I think that people think that conspiracy theories got Trump elected, so now it's, like, cool to hate conspiracy theorists or people-

   30. JRJoe Rogan7:21

       B-
4. 7:23 – 10:08

   Trump as a ‘riffing comic’: entertainment, backlash to PC culture, and the perfect storm election

   1. JRJoe Rogan7:23

      There's so many factors that got Trump elected.

   2. TDTim Dillon7:25

      Yeah, right.

   3. JRJoe Rogan7:26

      I mean, it's a perfect storm of people get- getting fed up with political correctness-

   4. TDTim Dillon7:30

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan7:31

      ... someone coming along that's not a politician.

   6. TDTim Dillon7:34

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan7:34

      You know, the system is so rigged that after a while you're just like, "Jesus Christ, how many more of these fake puppets are we gonna put in office?"

   8. TDTim Dillon7:42

      There's... I say this to comics. I'm like, "Everybody's done a show where everybody goes out and bombs-

   9. JRJoe Rogan7:46

      Yeah.

   10. TDTim Dillon7:46

       ... with their material, and then one guy gets up and just goes, 'Fuck this,' and screams and yells-

   11. JRJoe Rogan7:53

       Yeah.

   12. TDTim Dillon7:53

       ... and destroys."

   13. JRJoe Rogan7:54

       Yeah.

   14. TDTim Dillon7:54

       Because that's what the room wanted the whole night. They wanted somebody to come up and just realize how fucked everything was and how nobody was having a good time. And that's kind of what Trump was.

   15. JRJoe Rogan8:03

       Yeah.

   16. TDTim Dillon8:03

       Trump was the guy that came out and just riffed.

   17. JRJoe Rogan8:05

       Yeah.

   18. TDTim Dillon8:06

       He went out there with no material. He just went out there and riffed and he went a-... And, and I... When I heard, and I'm sure you've seen the speech, where he talks about Ben Carson going after his mother with a hammer and trying to stab his friend. This was one of the funniest things. He was speaking and he was giving a stump speech, I don't know where it was. I think it was... He wasn't in Iowa, but he was referencing Iowa. And he's talking about Ben Carson's book and that Ben Carson had admitted to going after his mother with a hammer and trying to stab his friend with a kni-... I mean, these are, these are in... Be-... And Trump is talking about it. Me and my friend were driving, uh, out of New York City. We were laughing so hard. I said, "This guy's..."

   19. JRJoe Rogan8:46

       (laughs)

   20. TDTim Dillon8:46

       I said, "He's gonna win." I said, "I'll tell you why he's gonna win. I cannot stop watching this."

   21. JRJoe Rogan8:54

       Right.

   22. TDTim Dillon8:54

       I can't. I am so fixated by the idea that there's a guy like this on the national stage and he's saying whatever he w-... There was something intoxicating about that. And a lot of the things he was saying were horrible-

   23. JRJoe Rogan9:09

       Yeah.

   24. TDTim Dillon9:09

       ... but he was saying them. And then on the other side you had Hillary Clinton who was just a scripted, c- uh, careful person. And I'm like, "Y- It's just boring."

   25. JRJoe Rogan9:20

       Yeah.

   26. TDTim Dillon9:20

       So to me, I'm like, "Sometimes the entertaining person wins because you can't take your eyes off them."

   27. JRJoe Rogan9:27

       Well, in this case, for sure. I mean, and th- that... It was a perfect, y- you know, polar opposite between him and her.

   28. TDTim Dillon9:34

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan9:34

       You know?

   30. TDTim Dillon9:34

       Oh, yeah.
5. 10:08 – 14:50

   The ‘Deep State’ as bureaucracy: intelligence sprawl, budgets, and geospatial confusion

   1. TDTim Dillon10:08

      Right. But I think we really don't... Like, we have one person that seems... Like, we have one figurehead, but we have kind of this permanent political class of people-

   2. JRJoe Rogan10:16

      Yeah.

   3. TDTim Dillon10:16

      ... a nexus of powerful institutions where you have career politicians, career diplomats-

   4. JRJoe Rogan10:22

      Mm-hmm.

   5. TDTim Dillon10:23

      ... career military service people that kind of don't leave. So, I think that's one of the reasons that we haven't changed the system, is because one person can't ever do that much. Even though Trump is wild and crazy and he's done a lot of bad things, I don't think he would be allowed to deviate from many of the policies, like, that his predecessors had kind of established. I think that, like, the American government... And that's why this... The term, like, the Deep State, which a lot of people ridicule, it's an undeniably true thing. I mean, our policies are not just one guy gets into office and he goes, "Here's how it is."

   6. JRJoe Rogan11:01

      Right.

   7. TDTim Dillon11:01

      I mean, it's the result of a lot of, you know, private corporations lobbying, forming all kinds of... Forming an agenda in a non-democratic way. You know?

   8. JRJoe Rogan11:12

      Mm-hmm.

   9. TDTim Dillon11:12

      They're not accountable. And a lot of these, you know, people that work at the CIA or the FBI or the NSA, a lot of them are appointed, they're not elected.

   10. JRJoe Rogan11:19

       Right.

   11. TDTim Dillon11:19

       We have no oversight. Um, we have tw-... I think it's 22 intelligence agencies now. It's-

   12. JRJoe Rogan11:25

       Really, that many?

   13. TDTim Dillon11:27

       I, I mean, it's something absurd.

   14. JRJoe Rogan11:28

       How many could you name?

   15. TDTim Dillon11:30

       Uh, FBI, CIA, NSA, uh, probably DEA, um-

   16. JRJoe Rogan11:34

       Is DEA an intelligence agency? I guess.

   17. TDTim Dillon11:35

       I wouldn't say it's an intelligence agency. They probably have-

   18. JRJoe Rogan11:37

       More law enforcement, right?

   19. TDTim Dillon11:37

       ... intelligence capabilities-

   20. JRJoe Rogan11:38

       Right.

   21. TDTim Dillon11:39

       ... I would imagine.

   22. JRJoe Rogan11:40

       FBI, CIA, NSA-

   23. TDTim Dillon11:42

       Uh, there's one in-

   24. JRJoe Rogan11:43

       ... DEA.

   25. TDTim Dillon11:43

       Yeah. The, uh, DIA-

   26. JRJoe Rogan11:45

       What's that?

   27. TDTim Dillon11:45

       ... Director of Intelligence.

   28. JRJoe Rogan11:46

       Oh.

   29. TDTim Dillon11:47

       The Pentagon. I mean, I don't know if that's an entire agency, but I think it... I mean, I think, you know, it has the capabilities.

   30. JRJoe Rogan11:51

       Yeah.
6. 14:50 – 16:33

   DC’s contractor wealth and Tim’s private gig with the ‘defense industry crowd’

   1. TDTim Dillon14:50

      The amount of people that are doing things we have no idea what they're do- I mean, 10, uh, I just did a private gig at the Bethesda Country Club in Maryland, okay? It's, you know, I'm still doing, uh, private gigs, sad, but you gotta, you know. It is what it is.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:02

      Gotta do what you gotta do.

   3. TDTim Dillon15:03

      Gotta do what you gotta do. I go to the Bethesda Country Club, Maryland, um, it's, the entire 10 counties around Washington, DC are the wealthiest counties in the world. I mean, in, in our country. They, and it's not because they're selling crab cakes, you know what I mean?

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:18

      Right.

   5. TDTim Dillon15:18

      It's all defense industry, Raytheon, uh, you know, DynCorp, things you've never heard of and they were all, uh, and they were, it was a good gig, they were funny. I, I got up and I was like, "What are we, are we, uh, carving up Venezuela?" They all laugh.

   6. YJYoung Jamie15:29

      (laughs)

   7. TDTim Dillon15:29

      They're all clapping. They're into it. You know, they liked it. They, some people get, and I was like-

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:33

      Right.

   9. TDTim Dillon15:33

      ... I was like, I, I said last week I did a fundraiser for human trafficking victims, this week I'm with the traffickers, you guys are a lot more fun.

   10. YJYoung Jamie15:40

       (laughs)

   11. TDTim Dillon15:40

       And they're clapping. They're cla- they love it.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:41

       Oh, that's funny.

   13. TDTim Dillon15:41

       They're leaning in to being-

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:43

       Well, that's good.

   15. TDTim Dillon15:43

       They're fake.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:45

       Leaning in to being... (laughs)

   17. YJYoung Jamie15:46

       (laughs)

   18. TDTim Dillon15:46

       (laughs) They're m- they're, you know.

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:47

       Yeah.

   20. TDTim Dillon15:47

       They're morally compromised.

   21. JRJoe Rogan15:49

       Well, they're also hired a comedian to fuck with them.

   22. TDTim Dillon15:52

       Yes. That's a good point.

   23. JRJoe Rogan15:53

       Yeah. Yeah, I mean, they, they expected it. It's not like it came outta nowhere.

   24. TDTim Dillon15:55

       Yeah. Well, you know, I mean, it's like, so that's the thing, it's like Trump bad, but I don't know what the geospatial people are up to.

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:02

       Right.

   26. TDTim Dillon16:02

       I don't have to th- I don't wanna throw my hat in with geospatial intelligence.

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:06

       Yeah. I don't know what that means. I mean, maybe we need it. What, you know, but listen, again, two standup comedians talking about what the world needs.

   28. TDTim Dillon16:15

       Right. Yeah, it's not great.

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:16

       It's, it's fucking terrible.

   30. TDTim Dillon16:17

       It's not great.
7. 16:33 – 22:02

   Twitter noise, real journalism, and Trump’s superpower: not giving a fuck

   1. TDTim Dillon16:33

      The best thing is if you go on Twitter and a comedian will tweet something really, you know, it's like, "We're living in fascism."

   2. JRJoe Rogan16:40

      Hmm.

   3. TDTim Dillon16:40

      And they get, like, 400,000 likes. And then the next tweet, have you ever seen this? They go, "And while you guys are here, check out my web series."

   4. YJYoung Jamie16:50

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan16:50

      (laughs)

   6. TDTim Dillon16:50

      And you go, are we, are we living in fa- uh, if we're living in fascism, do I-

   7. JRJoe Rogan16:54

      You can't have a web series.

   8. TDTim Dillon16:56

      You can't have a web series, and do I have the time to luxuriate-

   9. JRJoe Rogan16:59

      Yeah.

   10. TDTim Dillon16:59

       ... in your web series-

   11. YJYoung Jamie17:00

       (laughs)

   12. TDTim Dillon17:01

       ... or should I start arming myself-

   13. JRJoe Rogan17:03

       (laughs)

   14. TDTim Dillon17:03

       ... to overthrow the government? What should I, what should, I look at my phone, I'm like, "Which way should I go?"

   15. JRJoe Rogan17:09

       Yeah.

   16. TDTim Dillon17:09

       But that's all they do. They go, "By, by the way, while you're here, I have a Patreon. We're doing, uh, a project, I'd like you to throw a few bucks there. But we're living in fascism and, you know."

   17. JRJoe Rogan17:19

       Well, the signal-to-noise ratio in terms of, like, people tweeting-

   18. YJYoung Jamie17:24

       (laughs) That's great.

   19. JRJoe Rogan17:24

       ... it's almost mostly noise. Like-

   20. TDTim Dillon17:26

       Oh, it's noise.

   21. JRJoe Rogan17:26

       ... there's a few people that are great. You can follow a few people-

   22. TDTim Dillon17:29

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan17:29

       ... that are really posting about real news and, you know-

   24. TDTim Dillon17:32

       There's four.

   25. JRJoe Rogan17:33

       The, there's some journalists.

   26. TDTim Dillon17:34

       There's 17 of 'em.

   27. YJYoung Jamie17:35

       (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan17:35

       I think journalists are maybe the best people to follow on Twitter right now, it seems like.

   29. TDTim Dillon17:39

       But the problem is, who's a journalist? There's very few.

   30. YJYoung Jamie17:42

       (sighs)
8. 22:02 – 35:00

   Gaudy wealth, Trump branding, and NYC real estate as a money-laundering magnet

   1. TDTim Dillon22:02

      Y- he, he's not a bit... Like, this idea that he's like a b-... The things he's built are disgusting.

   2. JRJoe Rogan22:06

      (laughs)

   3. TDTim Dillon22:06

      If you go to Atlantic City, walk into any building he has built, it is d-... Chris Hedges g- wrote a book, he's a, a, a interesting guy, he wrote a book called, America: The Farewell Tour. And he goes, he went (laughs) , he went to Trump Tower in Atlantic City, and he goes, "There's junkies in the bathrooms, there's like rats running around, it's falling apart," and he's like, "That's kinda what, you know, America will be." But no, anything he's built is not nice. Did you watch it? There was a documentary about an architect called Costis Carayannis, and he ha- and a lot of the documentary is about him convincing Trump to not make his building gold-

   4. JRJoe Rogan22:41

      (laughs)

   5. TDTim Dillon22:41

      ... in New York City. And I, I, I, I... A- a- and it's like-

   6. JRJoe Rogan22:45

      Is it gold in New York City or no?

   7. TDTim Dillon22:46

      No.

   8. JRJoe Rogan22:46

      But it's gold in Vegas.

   9. TDTim Dillon22:48

      It's gold a lotta places.

   10. JRJoe Rogan22:49

       Yeah.

   11. TDTim Dillon22:49

       But like, he was gonna ruin the, the, the downtown of Manhattan with a gold building.

   12. JRJoe Rogan22:55

       Wh- uh, why is that ruining it though?

   13. TDTim Dillon22:57

       A gold building?

   14. JRJoe Rogan22:58

       Why not?

   15. TDTim Dillon22:59

       You've spent too much time on the West Coast.

   16. JRJoe Rogan23:01

       But why is that bad? Why is it bad to, d- for it to be one color? Is it better if it's all black or it's all white or silver?

   17. TDTim Dillon23:06

       New York has a look, it has a feel. You can't come in with a gold building, it's not Vegas-

   18. JRJoe Rogan23:11

       Right.

   19. TDTim Dillon23:11

       ... it's not Atlantic City, this is not Reno.

   20. JRJoe Rogan23:13

       Like Mandalay Bay?

   21. TDTim Dillon23:15

       What goes on in a gold building? I've never looked at a gold building and said, "I bet what goes on there is honest," like-

   22. JRJoe Rogan23:20

       (laughs)

   23. TDTim Dillon23:21

       ... go- and decent. Gold buildings should be for doing coke and losing money.

   24. JRJoe Rogan23:25

       Right.

   25. TDTim Dillon23:25

       That's what it's about. You don't walk into-

   26. JRJoe Rogan23:27

       That's a good point.

   27. TDTim Dillon23:27

       ... a gold building and get a checkup.

   28. JRJoe Rogan23:29

       That's a good point.

   29. TDTim Dillon23:30

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan23:30

       Yeah, that's a very good point. That's what I think.
9. 35:00 – 42:36

   LA vs. New York comedy: networking culture, careerism, and the Louie CK backlash dynamic

   1. TDTim Dillon35:00

      Guest-spotted flappers. Uh, lot of things happening. And, uh, 'cause they're always trying to mo- ... That's the thing about LA. New Yorkers just pound yourself into the ground until you get funny. That's kinda what New York is.

   2. JRJoe Rogan35:12

      The New York scene?

   3. TDTim Dillon35:12

      The New York scene is like, do 57 shows a day. Give up on your life. Don't speak to your family. They're losers. They're holding you back.

   4. JRJoe Rogan35:21

      (laughs)

   5. TDTim Dillon35:23

      Go hard. LA is like, make a friend, have lunch, see what happens. I talked to some of the people out here and I'm like, "What's the plan?" I get nervous for them. I'm like-

   6. JRJoe Rogan35:32

      (laughs)

   7. TDTim Dillon35:33

      ... "What's the plan?" They're getting high. It's midday. I'm like, "W- okay, it's Wednesday at 2:00." They're like, "We just had a meeting." I'm like, "What'd you do?" They go, "We're talking about starting a podcast." I'm like, "That's not a meeting."

   8. JRJoe Rogan35:44

      (laughs)

   9. TDTim Dillon35:45

      You're just friends with someone else. You-

   10. JRJoe Rogan35:47

       Yeah, you're talking about stuff.

   11. TDTim Dillon35:48

       That's nothing.

   12. JRJoe Rogan35:48

       That's not a meeting.

   13. TDTim Dillon35:49

       But here's the thing. It does work here and there are people that I know who have made the right friend and then their life changes.

   14. JRJoe Rogan35:54

       Yeah, there's a little of that, but those people are super transparent.

   15. TDTim Dillon35:57

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan35:58

       And if you don't have any talent, that's never gonna, it's never gonna catch.

   17. TDTim Dillon36:00

       No, it'll never work.

   18. JRJoe Rogan36:01

       And then everybody resents you. There's a few of those people that really don't have any talent, but they made the right friends and they cling onto folks and everybody gets real uncomfortable when they're around.

   19. TDTim Dillon36:09

       Well, that was the thing. I think the first time we spoke is I had written that thing about Louie and after Louie's, the whole news about Louie happened.

   20. JRJoe Rogan36:15

       Yeah.

   21. TDTim Dillon36:15

       You had all this-

   22. JRJoe Rogan36:16

       I loved that piece, by the way.

   23. TDTim Dillon36:17

       Yeah, thank you.

   24. JRJoe Rogan36:17

       It was so accurate-

   25. TDTim Dillon36:18

       It was f- Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan36:18

       ... and honest.

   27. TDTim Dillon36:19

       Yeah, it was on Facebook, which is where I did a lot of my best work.

   28. JRJoe Rogan36:21

       Explain what you were saying-

   29. TDTim Dillon36:23

       Well-

   30. JRJoe Rogan36:23

       ... to people that didn't read it.
10. 42:36 – 1:09:30

    Edgy comedy, bombing on purpose, and the Dangerfield’s/Dice/Holtzman lineage

    1. JRJoe Rogan42:36

       ... but it would make howl laugh. Have you seen Holtzman?

    2. TDTim Dillon42:39

       No.

    3. JRJoe Rogan42:40

       You never... Seen Brian Holtzman?

    4. TDTim Dillon42:41

       No.

    5. JRJoe Rogan42:42

       Oh my God.

    6. TDTim Dillon42:42

       At Ligh- Store?

    7. JRJoe Rogan42:43

       Yeah, yeah. He, he-

    8. TDTim Dillon42:44

       Yeah, you should check him out.

    9. JRJoe Rogan42:45

       He cl-... How long are you in town for?

    10. TDTim Dillon42:46

        I'm in town for a little while, I leave e- early March for a wedding.

    11. JRJoe Rogan42:48

        Oh, great.

    12. TDTim Dillon42:49

        I'm coming back like a week, a month now.

    13. JRJoe Rogan42:51

        Well, he'll be here... I'm sure he's here either Friday or Saturday-

    14. TDTim Dillon42:54

        Okay.

    15. JRJoe Rogan42:54

        ... 'cause he doesn't really do the road.

    16. TDTim Dillon42:55

        Okay.

    17. JRJoe Rogan42:56

        He mostly just does the Store.

    18. TDTim Dillon42:57

        Yeah.

    19. JRJoe Rogan42:57

        I don't even think he does other clubs. I think he just-

    20. TDTim Dillon42:59

        I love it.

    21. JRJoe Rogan42:59

        ... does the Store.

    22. TDTim Dillon43:00

        He's just there.

    23. JRJoe Rogan43:01

        When I started in '94, he was coming up. He was there at the Store in '94.

    24. TDTim Dillon43:06

        Wow.

    25. JRJoe Rogan43:06

        And, uh, he was already there when I got there.

    26. TDTim Dillon43:08

        Right.

    27. JRJoe Rogan43:08

        And I was like, "Whoa, this guy is gonna be huge." And for whatever reason-

    28. TDTim Dillon43:11

        Yeah.

    29. JRJoe Rogan43:11

        ... he never left.

    30. TDTim Dillon43:12

        Right.

Episode duration: 2:09:17