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Joe Rogan Experience #1252 - Dave Foley & Paul Greenberg

David Foley is an actor, stand-up comedian, director, producer and writer. Paul Greenberg is an actor, comedian and voice actor. Together they host "Don't Say.. with Paul & Dave" available on iTunes.

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Feb 26, 20192h 53mWatch on YouTube ↗

EVERY SPOKEN WORD

  1. 0:043:04

    Launching their podcast with a forbidden word: Canadian vs American swearing

    1. JR

      Four, three, two, one. And we're live. So what am I not supposed to say?

    2. DF

      Huh?

    3. JR

      (laughs)

    4. DF

      Oh, uh, yeah, cunt.

    5. JR

      Oh.

    6. PG

      Yeah.

    7. DF

      Yeah.

    8. JR

      That's our, uh-

    9. PG

      Yeah.

    10. DF

      That's basically, that's the title. The title of the show that we've, we've, we've, uh, uh, omitted from the print (laughs) -

    11. PG

      Yes.

    12. DF

      ... listings-

    13. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    14. DF

      ... is, uh, yeah, the show's actually called Don't Say Cunt-

    15. JR

      (laughs)

    16. DF

      ... uh, with Paul and Dave.

    17. PG

      Because this is the one place where you're not gonna hear the word cunt.

    18. DF

      Yeah. It's a kind of a promise that for 45 minutes-

    19. PG

      On our show.

    20. JR

      Oh.

    21. DF

      There'll be 45 minutes, uh, 'cause as we understand it, Americans don't like the word cunt.

    22. JR

      Some Americans.

    23. DF

      Yeah.

    24. JR

      It's getting number.

    25. DF

      That's what the, well, yeah.

    26. PG

      Yeah.

    27. JR

      Yeah. Well, but until that day.

    28. PG

      It used to be a lot worse.

    29. JR

      There was a, there's an, a, a bunch of women that were trying to take it back. Who was it? Was that the, The Guys We Fucked girls?

    30. DF

      Maybe.

  2. 3:045:03

    Monarchy, celebrity culture, and reality TV as modern royalty

    1. JR

      You guys have English people in your money still.

    2. DF

      Yeah.

    3. PG

      Yes.

    4. DF

      And we get all the English movies-

    5. PG

      Mm-hmm.

    6. DF

      ... all the English TV shows.

    7. PG

      We, we, we, uh, pledge allegiance to the Queen in school, you know, when I was a kid.

    8. JR

      For real? Still? Is that still going on?

    9. DF

      Yeah, yeah.

    10. PG

      Possibly, yeah.

    11. DF

      And in our sleep.

    12. PG

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      So many good things about Canada, yet so many preposterous things.

    14. PG

      Yes.

    15. DF

      It's true. It, the fact, well, the fact that a monarchy still exists at all is preposterous.

    16. PG

      Canada is great on paper.

    17. DF

      Yeah.

    18. JR

      Yeah. (laughs) Well, the monarchy i- even in itself has, has become Kardashianified.

    19. DF

      Well, yeah.

    20. PG

      Right.

    21. DF

      Like, well, um, I... But didn't they, weren't they always? I mean-

    22. JR

      I guess they were.

    23. DF

      I mean, what, how else did they-

    24. JR

      Like during the prince died days and-

    25. DF

      Yeah.

    26. JR

      Yeah.

    27. DF

      Or even just back to Henry VIII. I mean-

    28. JR

      Sure.

    29. DF

      ... how did, what, what maintained the, the monarchy other than the fact that people wanted celebrities?

    30. JR

      Right.

  3. 5:038:22

    Fame without craft: why attention breaks people

    1. JR

      (laughs) Yeah, um, the Beverly Hills one s- uh, the, all of them were fascinating. It was take, take people, force them in to these situations where they're gonna have these artificial disputes. What was c- uh, crazy to me is watching people succumb to the pressure of all of that attention-

    2. DF

      Mm-hmm.

    3. JR

      ... when they've never experienced it before. And then you're gonna just thrust them into this massively popular, you know-

    4. DF

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      ... for lack of a better word, cunt fest.

    6. NA

      (laughs)

    7. DF

      Yeah, yeah.

    8. JR

      Right?

    9. DF

      See? Well if you take-

    10. JR

      Yes.

    11. DF

      ... you take fame...

    12. NA

      (laughs)

    13. DF

      Yeah. And you divorce it of any supporting, sort of supporting unders- you know-

    14. JR

      Talent.

    15. DF

      ... structure. Yeah, it's talent.

    16. JR

      Yeah.

    17. DF

      Or that supports the fame.

    18. JR

      Nothing, no offering even.

    19. PG

      Something to offer, yeah. Nothing to offer.

    20. JR

      Yeah. No offering. There's no-

    21. DF

      Yeah.

    22. JR

      ... like painting, no sculpting.

    23. DF

      No, nothing.

    24. JR

      There's no singing. Yeah.

    25. PG

      They only take.

    26. JR

      Yeah.

    27. DF

      They only give. 'Cause fame will destroy... If you're a brilliant artist, fame will destroy you.

    28. JR

      Yes.

    29. PG

      Yes.

    30. DF

      But if, if there's nothing underneath the fame, it's, there's, there's nothing to hold it up.

  4. 8:2210:07

    The social weirdness of being recognized: entitlement, interrogation, and hostility

    1. DF

      Well, I always said, like, the, the f- uh, that fame is a property of, of the beholder, not the beheld.

    2. JR

      Mm.

    3. DF

      And that, that fame only exists so long as somebody in the room knows who you are.

    4. JR

      Right, right.

    5. PG

      Yeah.

    6. DF

      And the minute you're-

    7. JR

      Right.

    8. DF

      ... in a room where no one knows you, your fame evaporates.

    9. JR

      That is one of the weirdest interrogations I've ever gotten, is when people go, "Who ... Why do these-"

    10. DF

      (laughs)

    11. JR

      "... people know you?"

    12. DF

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      "What do you do?"

    14. PG

      Oh, yeah. "Who are you?"

    15. JR

      "Who are you?"

    16. PG

      Yeah. "Should I know you?"

    17. DF

      "Should I take a photo with you?"

    18. PG

      Yeah. There were somebody-

    19. JR

      Yeah.

    20. PG

      ... but I don't know who.

    21. DF

      The weird thing is they're almost offended that other people know you and they don't.

    22. JR

      (laughs)

    23. PG

      Yeah.

    24. DF

      Like, "Why ... You're playing a game with me."

    25. JR

      (laughs)

    26. PG

      Yeah.

    27. DF

      "Why are you ... Why, why don't I know you?"

    28. JR

      Yeah.

    29. PG

      They get angry.

    30. DF

      Yeah.

  5. 10:0712:59

    Acting and NewsRadio memories: craft, stress, and never enjoying it in the moment

    1. JR

      Um, are you still doing that show with, uh, Dr. Ken?

    2. DF

      No, uh, we stopped when they canceled it.

    3. JR

      Oh.

    4. DF

      Uh ...

    5. PG

      (laughs)

    6. JR

      That's always a good move.

    7. DF

      Yeah, not right away.

    8. PG

      (laughs)

    9. DF

      It's several months in. Uh ...

    10. PG

      To be fair, you kept doing the show after it was canceled, right?

    11. DF

      Yeah. We didn't, we didn't, uh-

    12. JR

      Was it called The Doctors? Is that what it's called?

    13. DF

      No. (laughs) The Doc- ... No. That was the-

    14. JR

      No, that's the other one.

    15. DF

      That's, uh-

    16. JR

      That's the real one.

    17. DF

      ... Dr. Oz, right?

    18. PG

      It had a real-

    19. JR

      Yeah.

    20. PG

      I can't remember. What was the name of it again?

    21. DF

      I mean, we can still call Dr. Oz a real doctor, right? That, uh-

    22. JR

      I don't think so.

    23. DF

      He's ... Is he-

    24. JR

      No.

    25. DF

      ... as far gone as Drew?

    26. JR

      Once you've been pushed in front-

    27. DF

      (laughs)

    28. JR

      ... of Congress-

    29. DF

      Yeah.

    30. JR

      ... and they question you on your weight loss claims-

  6. 12:5917:06

    What happened to sitcom comedy: laugh tracks, ‘good enough,’ and changing movie culture

    1. JR

      Well, what's fascinating is I don't think those shows are being made anymore.

    2. DF

      No. Not the, not like that.

    3. No. No.

    4. JR

      I mean, there's the Chuck Lorre type shows that I watch and I go, "I'm missing a gene."

    5. DF

      Yeah. Why-

    6. (laughs)

    7. Why is everyone-

    8. It's like some-

    9. Why is everyone laughing so hard?

    10. Yeah. Yeah. To be-

    11. Yeah.

    12. JR

      ... ever seen those without the laugh track?

    13. DF

      No. (laughs) I can imagine what that must be like.

    14. They, they've, they've taken some of those shows- Oh, I've seen like Big Bang Theory and that kind of stuff.

    15. I would like to see that.

    16. Yeah.

    17. JR

      They've removed the laugh track, and you watch it with just the actors saying the words. And it's like-

    18. DF

      Does anything funny ever happen on it?

    19. JR

      Well, it's just, it's strange. It's like you're watching, um, uh, uh, i- it just doesn't make any sense. It's like-

    20. DF

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      ... it's, it's illogical.

    22. DF

      Yeah, and that, that, that, that place people get in their heads where they just go, "It'll be fine."

    23. JR

      Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

    24. DF

      Like, I mean, news radio, if we did a scene and it didn't get a laugh, we rewrote the whole scene.

    25. JR

      Yeah.

    26. DF

      Yeah.

    27. Literally. Like in f-... with the audience there.

    28. JR

      Yeah.

    29. DF

      Well, I think the term good enough is perfect for comedy.

    30. Yeah.

  7. 17:0626:56

    Why they started the podcast: spouses, producing, and Dave’s 10-year separation that never became a divorce

    1. JR

      Yeah. So, uh, how long you guys been doing this podcast?

    2. DF

      This, how long have we been... Since just before Christmas-

    3. Yeah.

    4. ... I guess.

    5. It's not, not that long.

    6. December.

    7. Not that long.

    8. Yeah, probably time to wrap it up.

    9. We've known each other, we've known each other a long time.

    10. 30 years I guess.

    11. JR

      What motivated it?

    12. DF

      Our wives.

    13. Yeah.

    14. JR

      They say, "Get the fuck outta here."

    15. DF

      Yeah.

    16. They wanted us out of the house pretty much. Yeah.

    17. JR

      (laughs)

    18. DF

      That's, it was, yeah, they said, "What-"

    19. They said, "Can you go do something somewhere else?"

    20. "... do something." And, uh, and they're actually e- e- in, on the podcast with us. Like, uh, Chrissie, my wife, produces it and, you know-

    21. Good.

    22. ... puts it all together.

    23. Jackie Harris, Greenberg is my wife and she's-

    24. JR

      It makes it super hard to fire her.

    25. DF

      It is. Well...

    26. No. We're the ones who will get fired.

    27. Oh, man.

    28. JR

      Yeah.

    29. DF

      Well, she fired me once, so-

    30. That's true.

  8. 26:5630:47

    Marriage as risk and business: divorce economics and the Phil Hartman tragedy

    1. DF

      Well, how long, how long have you been married now?

    2. JR

      10 years.

    3. DF

      And you've n- and you, that's the only time you've ever been married, right?

    4. JR

      Thank God. Thank the baby Jesus.

    5. DF

      Oh my God, yes. (laughs) Uh-

    6. JR

      (laughs)

    7. DF

      (laughs)

    8. PG

      (laughs)

    9. DF

      Praise, praise Jesus. (laughs)

    10. PG

      (laughs)

    11. JR

      Yeah.

    12. DF

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      I'm stunned that it's working.

    14. DF

      Yeah, it's a, it's great.

    15. JR

      Yeah.

    16. DF

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      If it works, it's great.

    18. DF

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      But I always tell people, "Don't do it. It's too risky."

    20. DF

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      You get l- 50% of the people don't make it.

    22. PG

      Yeah, it's a, it's a, it's not a good-

    23. JR

      You know?

    24. PG

      ... uh, good rate-

    25. JR

      Yeah.

    26. PG

      ... of success.

    27. JR

      Would you drive a car if you knew that 50% likely you would die in a crash?

    28. PG

      Right.

    29. DF

      Yeah. I mean, it was an institution that made sense when you were only gonna live to be 40.

    30. JR

      (clears throat) Sort, well, it makes sense. There's some parts of it that make sense. The problem is that it's become a business. And it's become-

  9. 30:4734:11

    From lawyers to time zones: railroads standardize time and culture follows

    1. DF

      Yeah, that might have been where humanity went wrong, was when the first guy said, "I'm gonna be a lawyer." Like, that was his decision. I'm looking around and I think, "Yeah, there's a lot of ugliness in the world."

    2. JR

      Yeah, when was the first lawyer?

    3. PG

      They never made it work.

    4. DF

      I gotta buck on it.

    5. JR

      When was the first lawyer? Like, when was the- there was a series of laws-

    6. DF

      Yeah, who was that?

    7. JR

      ... right? The first lawyers had to have been priests, right?

    8. DF

      I would guess so, yeah.

    9. JR

      Yeah, I mean the- the laws-

    10. DF

      The Pharisees.

    11. JR

      ... initially-

    12. DF

      ... were- were basically lawyers, right?

    13. JR

      What is the Pharisees?

    14. DF

      Like, the Jewish- the Jewish priests.

    15. JR

      Oh, okay. Makes sense.

    16. PG

      That does make a lot of sense.

    17. DF

      Yeah.

    18. JR

      Hm.

    19. PG

      Probably a lot of my relatives.

    20. DF

      (laughs) Yeah.

    21. JR

      Yeah, like when did it become a thing where it was- you would go to law school and it was, uh, a respectable occupation?

    22. DF

      Mm-hmm.

    23. JR

      And it would be good to know a good lawyer?

    24. DF

      Yeah. And-

    25. PG

      I think those things started out as not respectable and-

    26. JR

      (coughs)

    27. PG

      ... people did them 'cause they didn't have any other-

    28. JR

      Yeah.

    29. PG

      ... like, choice.

    30. DF

      Yeah, so you-

  10. 34:1138:30

    Hawaii, invasive species, Alaska wildlife shifts, and Dave’s improv touring

    1. JR

      You know Arizona still doesn't do daylight savings time?

    2. DF

      (laughs)

    3. JR

      They're like, "Fuck you."

    4. DF

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      "That's stupid."

    6. PG

      They're allowed to do that?

    7. JR

      Yep.

    8. DF

      Yep.

    9. JR

      Yep.

    10. PG

      Wow.

    11. JR

      If you drive from, like- if you drive from Nevada to Arizona you're- you're- you miss an hour.

    12. DF

      Yeah, they aren't the only state. Isn't there another state that doesn't?

    13. JR

      I wonder.

    14. DF

      I think there's more.

    15. JR

      Not that I'm aware of. Is there other ones?

    16. DF

      Hawaii doesn't either.

    17. JR

      Hawaii? Good for them.

    18. DF

      Well, yeah, they're good for them.

    19. PG

      Well, Hawaii gets to do what they want.

    20. DF

      They're an island.

    21. PG

      Yeah.

    22. JR

      They s- we stole Hawaii.

    23. PG

      That's right.

    24. DF

      N-

    25. JR

      That- that island is theirs.

    26. DF

      Yeah. (laughs)

    27. JR

      That's a- that's a fucking country that we occupy with hotels.

    28. PG

      You feel it when you're there.

    29. DF

      Yeah.

    30. JR

      Yes. It's got its own feeling.

  11. 38:301:02:46

    NewsRadio ratings, syndication games, and TV industry absurdities

    1. DF

      He put, he put us out of work.

    2. JR

      Did he?

    3. DF

      Yeah. I remember it was the Drew Carey Show that finally got Newsradio canceled.

    4. JR

      Really?

    5. PG

      Not so nice now.

    6. JR

      I thought it was Phil getting murdered.

    7. PG

      Uh-huh.

    8. DF

      Nope. Nope.

    9. JR

      (laughs)

    10. DF

      Remember, we did a whole year after that.

    11. JR

      Yeah, but I think that was what it was. I don't think they wanted to do it anymore after that. I don't know if that's true.

    12. DF

      Yeah. But I think our ratings, our ratings tanked when we, when they put us up against Drew Carey.

    13. JR

      Our ratings are always shit.

    14. DF

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      That's the most amazing thing is that the ratings were really great once we got canceled, and then it was on TV like, uh, like they would show the reruns and people would go, "Oh, this is a funny show."

    16. PG

      Yeah. They did, they found it-

    17. DF

      Yeah.

    18. PG

      It's true.

    19. JR

      I remember Lou Morton, uh, one of our writers, showing up at the, he'd show up at The Read.

    20. PG

      Yeah, The Table Reads.

    21. JR

      Table Read with a different number on his shirt every week when we were in the real shitter, when we were falling apart.

    22. PG

      The low- (laughs)

    23. DF

      Yeah. Yeah.

    24. JR

      Yeah. The lowest-

    25. DF

      We were the lowest. Number 98-

    26. JR

      Yeah.

    27. DF

      ... out of 100 shows.

    28. JR

      Yeah.

    29. PG

      Oh, come on.

    30. JR

      88 was one day.

  12. 53:531:11:10

    Ancient civilizations, cataclysms, and the UFO rabbit hole: evidence, ridicule, and ‘professional skeptics’

    1. JR

      ... Erich von Daniken last week.

    2. DF

      Oh my God.

    3. JR

      Yes. Very interesting.

    4. DF

      Cool.

    5. JR

      Very weird.

    6. DF

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      He's the guy who wrote Chariots of the Gods?

    8. PG

      Oh, God.

    9. JR

      He's in... Yeah.

    10. DF

      Yeah.

    11. PG

      Like, staple book in our house.

    12. JR

      In his 80s now.

    13. DF

      Mm-hmm.

    14. JR

      And, uh, he was showing us slides.

    15. PG

      What's the real story there? I was wondering.

    16. JR

      Mostly nonsense.

    17. DF

      Mm-hmm.

    18. JR

      Unfortunately.

    19. PG

      Was it really?

    20. DF

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      Um, yeah. Mostly, mostly what it is, is evidence-

    22. PG

      Love that documentary.

    23. JR

      ... of lost civilizations.

    24. DF

      Mm-hmm.

    25. JR

      Ancient civilizations that were incredibly advanced-I follow the work of Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson and a few other people that are being proven actually correct more and more, a- almost on a daily basis, by new discoveries that show that th- that civilization predates what we initially thought. With, with the-

    26. PG

      It goes way back farther back.

    27. DF

      Yeah.

    28. JR

      The initial thought was that somewhere around the great pyramids, which is like 2,500 BC, that was about as good as anybody got, and you go back to like ancient Sumer-

    29. DF

      Yeah.

    30. JR

      ... which is about 6,000 years ago and then that's basically it. What they're saying is that, no, there was most likely a reset, a global reset of civilization due to a cataclysmic disaster and there's a shit ton of evidence.

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