Joe Rogan Experience #1265 - Andrew Schulz

1. 0:02 – 1:55

   Schulz’s DIY standup strategy: releasing a special on YouTube

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:02

      Ready? (clears throat) Headphones, sir?

   2. ASAndrew Schulz0:07

      Oh, yeah. Do I have to?

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:08

      Mm, they're better. (headphones click) You'll lock in. Are we live? Hey, Andrew. How you doing?

   4. ASAndrew Schulz0:13

      I'm good. How are you?

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      I'm good, man. What's up?

   6. ASAndrew Schulz0:14

      Chilling, man. Thanks for having me.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      Thanks for being here, dude.

   8. ASAndrew Schulz0:17

      Of course, of course.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      Hey, I like what you're doing.

   10. ASAndrew Schulz0:19

       Thank you.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:19

       I like a lot of things what you're doing. Uh, first of all, I like that you're, you decided to put all your shit on YouTube.

   12. ASAndrew Schulz0:24

       Yes.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:24

       You're like, "Fuck it."

   14. ASAndrew Schulz0:25

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       "Fuck it." Look, it's hard. Look, there's about a million fucking comedians today.

   16. ASAndrew Schulz0:29

       Right, right.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       There's more comedians now than ever.

   18. ASAndrew Schulz0:31

       I can take these off. Is that all right?

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       You don't ... Yeah. You-

   20. ASAndrew Schulz0:32

       I'll lock in. Don't worry.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       We don't have to. We don't have to have them on. (clears throat) There's like a million comedians today.

   22. ASAndrew Schulz0:36

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       And a lot of these companies are overwhelmed.

   24. ASAndrew Schulz0:41

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       They have no room for all these up-and-coming guys that are coming up.

   26. ASAndrew Schulz0:44

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       And, you know, some, some guys like you are really good. And-

   28. ASAndrew Schulz0:48

       Thank you.

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:48

       ... there's, they're looking, you know, like, how do you, how do you get your shit out there? Well, just put it out there on YouTube.

   30. ASAndrew Schulz0:54

       Exactly that.
2. 1:55 – 4:34

   Short-form special, weekly joke drops, and the YouTube “wormhole” effect

   1. ASAndrew Schulz1:55

      And, uh, but I just believed in the project, and I thought it was dope. So I cut like a, I cut a 15-minute version. But I'll tell you why I did it is 'cause, uh, you can learn everything you need about standup from asking people who don't do standup.

   2. JRJoe Rogan2:08

      Really?

   3. ASAndrew Schulz2:08

      Yeah. Like, I asked all my friends and just people I would meet. I'd be like, "Who are you watching, you know, these days?" And, you know, they'd say the names that we all know. And then they'd always say this. They'd be like, uh, "Yeah, it wa- it was funny, man, but I didn't finish it."

   4. JRJoe Rogan2:20

      Hmm.

   5. ASAndrew Schulz2:20

      Everybody said that, right? And I was like, "All right. So it's too long."

   6. JRJoe Rogan2:24

      Yeah.

   7. ASAndrew Schulz2:24

      So I cut it down to 15. I did like a 15-minute version of the special. I did four clubs. And I just put it right onto YouTube. And, um, it was weird. I, like, sold out shows that weekend in San Diego, and I was never a sellout guy. You know, I'd have a few guys come out from the podcast I do-

   8. JRJoe Rogan2:38

      Mm-hmm.

   9. ASAndrew Schulz2:38

      ... and that kind of stuff, but it was never like a, like a sellout, you know?

   10. JRJoe Rogan2:42

       Right.

   11. ASAndrew Schulz2:42

       And I was like, "Well, that's kind of weird." And then I did a show in, like, Columbus, Ohio. You know, the, the-

   12. JRJoe Rogan2:47

       Mm-hmm.

   13. ASAndrew Schulz2:47

       ... what is it? The Funny Bone out there?

   14. JRJoe Rogan2:48

       Yeah.

   15. ASAndrew Schulz2:49

       A great club.

   16. JRJoe Rogan2:50

       Great club.

   17. ASAndrew Schulz2:50

       And, um, I think we sold like 1,600 tickets. And I was like, "What the fuck is happening?" Like, I was nev- not in Ohio, you know? And, like, people were coming out, and they're like, "I liked your thing." I was like, "Oh shit, maybe people are, are watching this." And I started to kind of, like, sit back for a second. I was like, "Why are people watching it? Eh, maybe it's short." And I was like, "All right, fuck it. You know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna put a joke out a week for a year." You know, I got another 45 minutes left of the special, and I could probably produce some more standup. I'll just put a joke out a week. There was this singer who was doing that, and, like, he just put a song out a week. His name is Russ. And I was like, "All right, that's ... He's a worker." I can, I can at least control that. I can outwork somebody, so I'll do that. And, uh, I put the joke out for a week, and, like, the jokes started to go. And, like, some of them would go viral. And I was like, "Yo, this is crazy." And people were coming out to shows. And then my YouTube guy hits me. He goes, "Yo, something weird is happening." I go, "What's up?" And he goes, "When people watch a clip, they'll watch for two hours." I go, "What do you mean?" Like, "They'll just get lost in a wormhole." And I go, "So wait a minute. So people aren't watching an hour of standup on the networks, 'cause it's too long, but they're watching two hours of mine." I'm like, "Why the fuck would that happen?" And we figured out that it was you made the choice. When you're in control of your destiny, right-

   18. JRJoe Rogan4:14

       Mm-hmm.

   19. ASAndrew Schulz4:14

       ... you'll invest as much time as you want. It's hitting snooze on the alarm clock.

   20. JRJoe Rogan4:19

       Yeah.

   21. ASAndrew Schulz4:19

       It's like, "All right, I'll take another eight minutes. I'll take another eight minutes." I won't set my alarm clock for an hour later.

   22. JRJoe Rogan4:24

       Yeah.

   23. ASAndrew Schulz4:24

       That would be irresponsible. But I'll snooze, snooze, snooze. And when people make their own fucking choice, it was like, it was just crazy to see what happened, man.

3. 4:34 – 7:06

   Why YouTube beats TV: phones, autoplay, and multiple “access points”

   1. JRJoe Rogan4:34

      It's also the platform. The platform, I mean, people on their phones ... Uh, Netflix told me that half the people that watched my special watched it on a phone.

   2. ASAndrew Schulz4:41

      Of course. Absolutely.

   3. JRJoe Rogan4:43

      So people that are watching phones, they're, they're ... You're, you're on that goddamn thing all day long, and it's way easier to flip a channel. It's way easier just, you got that remote in your hand anyway when you're sitting at home.

   4. ASAndrew Schulz4:54

      That's a good point.

   5. JRJoe Rogan4:55

      Yeah.

   6. ASAndrew Schulz4:55

      That's a really good point.

   7. JRJoe Rogan4:56

      Yeah. When you're on your phone, you're going full screen. You gotta, like, tap it, move it, and-

   8. ASAndrew Schulz5:00

      And you don't know what's next.

   9. JRJoe Rogan5:00

      Right.

   10. ASAndrew Schulz5:01

       I know if I turn this channel, it's ESPN2.

   11. JRJoe Rogan5:03

       Exactly. Yeah.

   12. ASAndrew Schulz5:03

       I don't know if I leave this video what I'm gonna see next.

   13. JRJoe Rogan5:06

       Yeah.

   14. ASAndrew Schulz5:07

       Yeah, 100%. So-

   15. JRJoe Rogan5:08

       There's a little bit of that. There's a little bit of phone addiction that contributes to a lot of views.

   16. ASAndrew Schulz5:12

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan5:12

       But people love fucking YouTube.

   18. ASAndrew Schulz5:15

       They love it.

   19. JRJoe Rogan5:15

       I mean, YouTube never ends. You could be on it for the rest of your life and not put a dent in the content that's on there.

   20. ASAndrew Schulz5:21

       Yeah. Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan5:22

       I mean, it's-

   22. ASAndrew Schulz5:22

       It's space.

   23. JRJoe Rogan5:23

       Yeah, especially if you have, like ... Me, I got a lot of weird interests. Like, you look at, like, what it suggests for me.

   24. ASAndrew Schulz5:28

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan5:28

       It's like, shit on the cosmos, muscle cars-

   26. ASAndrew Schulz5:31

       (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan5:31

       ... professional pool matches, MMA.

   28. ASAndrew Schulz5:33

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan5:34

       It's chaos.

   30. ASAndrew Schulz5:34

       Yeah.
4. 7:06 – 10:35

   Marketing vs pure craft: acquisition phase, success, and loving the game

   1. JRJoe Rogan7:06

      Yeah, I, I kind of w- I'd like that if you're thinking about marketing.

   2. ASAndrew Schulz7:11

      Yes, complete, complete-

   3. JRJoe Rogan7:13

      Yeah.

   4. ASAndrew Schulz7:13

      Like, you and I are in way different places with standup, right? Like, you're one of the most famous people in the world, right? So you don't need to find new people to see you. People are going to watch your standup because they're like, "All right, I have an intimate relationship with this guy. I listen to him eight hours a week, and I just wanna see his standup," right? I'm still in marketing phase.

   5. JRJoe Rogan7:31

      Yeah.

   6. ASAndrew Schulz7:31

      I'm like, "How can I get new people to see me?"

   7. JRJoe Rogan7:34

      Right.

   8. ASAndrew Schulz7:34

      There's five people that should have comedy specials now.

   9. JRJoe Rogan7:36

      (laughs) There's more than that.

   10. ASAndrew Schulz7:37

       There's five.

   11. JRJoe Rogan7:38

       Hey, s- send Jeff out to get lighters. Tell him to go get some lighters. Um, how many people-

   12. ASAndrew Schulz7:43

       You, Rock, Chappelle, Louis, Burr. That's it. Everybody else should be in acquisition phase. Why?

   13. JRJoe Rogan7:52

       I don't know about that, man. I don't, I don't buy into that. I don't, first of all, I don't think that way. I never worry about what other people are doing. I just don't, I don't think about it.

   14. ASAndrew Schulz8:01

       Right.

   15. JRJoe Rogan8:01

       And then two, all I concentrate on is doing my best shit, that's it.

   16. ASAndrew Schulz8:06

       Right.

   17. JRJoe Rogan8:07

       And once I got to a point where I was successful enough where I didn't have to worry about money, it was a huge relief. And honestly, I s- I think I started doing my best work.

   18. ASAndrew Schulz8:15

       Of course.

   19. JRJoe Rogan8:15

       Because then, I wasn't thinking... I didn't have any resources that were dialed into, how do I promote this and how do I get that going? All my resources like, "This bit needs something more. Gotta figure out how to really sell that and I, I gotta put... Maybe if I switched it around." And so it's all about alchemy.

   20. ASAndrew Schulz8:33

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan8:33

       You know? It's all about adding shit-

   22. ASAndrew Schulz8:35

       Yeah, yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan8:35

       ... and trying to make gold.

   24. ASAndrew Schulz8:36

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan8:37

       All I'm doing is like stirring in the lab trying to make gold 'cause-

   26. ASAndrew Schulz8:39

       'Cause you love creating them.

   27. JRJoe Rogan8:40

       Yeah, well, I don't have... There's no thoughts on marketing now, like-

   28. ASAndrew Schulz8:44

       That's, but that's-

   29. JRJoe Rogan8:45

       Yeah.

   30. ASAndrew Schulz8:45

       You found out you love creating.
5. 10:35 – 12:56

   Standup as flow-state “precision art” and the ethics of making people feel good

   1. JRJoe Rogan10:35

      We were about to go on stage. I'm like, "How fun is killing? Killing's the most fun. I don't understand how people could quit this."

   2. ASAndrew Schulz10:41

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan10:42

      "Quit doing comedy, man. How do you, how, why would you qui-" I'm like, out of all the shit that I do, if they said, "You could only do one?" I'd be like, "Comedy."

   4. GFGuest (unidentified friend/producer)10:50

      That's it. It's not quite, it's not even a question.

   5. JRJoe Rogan10:51

      It's, uh, everything else I could just pretend I'm doing, you know? Whether it's, uh, UFC commentary, I just sit at home and watch TV and just talk about what someone's supposed to be doing.

   6. ASAndrew Schulz10:59

      You can't fake it.

   7. JRJoe Rogan11:00

      Right, can't fake comedy.

   8. ASAndrew Schulz11:02

      You can fake literally everything else.

   9. JRJoe Rogan11:03

      Everything else.

   10. ASAndrew Schulz11:05

       You can't fake killing.

   11. JRJoe Rogan11:06

       Yeah, yeah, you and I could have the same fucking conversation, which we probably would, if there was no cameras, no people-

   12. ASAndrew Schulz11:11

       Exactly, yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan11:12

       If you and I were just chilling in the main room, green room at the Comedy Store-

   14. ASAndrew Schulz11:15

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan11:15

       ... we'd probably have the same conversation.

   16. ASAndrew Schulz11:18

       Facts, 100%.

   17. JRJoe Rogan11:19

       Yeah, yeah, but when you go up there, that is a, that is a precision art form that requires calculation and also zen-like smoothness and alpha flow. You gotta be in the zone, you gotta be in that flow state.

   18. ASAndrew Schulz11:34

       Yep.

   19. JRJoe Rogan11:34

       You gotta be happy.

   20. ASAndrew Schulz11:35

       Yep.

   21. JRJoe Rogan11:36

       But you also gotta be focused.

   22. ASAndrew Schulz11:37

       Yep.

   23. JRJoe Rogan11:37

       You gotta be having a good time, but concentrating on these people and, and projecting to them, and you want them to have a good time. You know, the whole deal is, one of, one of the best things about this job is you're making people feel good.

   24. ASAndrew Schulz11:49

       Yes.

   25. JRJoe Rogan11:49

       You're, you're, they're coming out of their house to see you and they come out of there feeling better.

   26. ASAndrew Schulz11:54

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan11:55

       ... they, they have a good time.

   28. ASAndrew Schulz11:56

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan11:56

       If everything goes right-

   30. ASAndrew Schulz11:58

       They, they love it.
6. 12:56 – 17:23

   Truth, likability, and authenticity (martial arts parallels + Brody Stevens)

   1. JRJoe Rogan12:56

      It is like a martial art, in that the truth is what works.

   2. ASAndrew Schulz13:02

      Uh, go on that.

   3. JRJoe Rogan13:03

      Because i- in martial arts, if you... Like, the... And the m- m- m- particularly in martial arts, not just in boxing-

   4. ASAndrew Schulz13:10

      Right.

   5. JRJoe Rogan13:10

      ... but boxing is a martial art. But the only stuff that works is the stuff that works, and if you hit a guy and he goes unconscious, it doesn't matter. One of the things that I used to like about fighting was that everybody could hate me and I didn't care. I didn't care, because when I got in there-

   6. ASAndrew Schulz13:24

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan13:24

      ... and I'm like... I knew that I was gonna fuck that guy up. It doesn't matter h- what his friends think, doesn't matter how loud we-

   8. ASAndrew Schulz13:30

      Yep.

   9. JRJoe Rogan13:30

      ... loud his parents cheer.

   10. ASAndrew Schulz13:31

       Yep.

   11. JRJoe Rogan13:32

       I'm gonna kick that dude in his head and I'm gonna separate him from his consciousness.

   12. ASAndrew Schulz13:35

       Meritocracy.

   13. JRJoe Rogan13:36

       And that's just gonna happen.

   14. ASAndrew Schulz13:37

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan13:37

       And there's nothing... And you can hate me all day long, it doesn't matter. But then I had to switch gears 100% into comedy, and I thought that was so different. And then I realized, because in comedy you have to get the people to like you-

   16. ASAndrew Schulz13:48

       Right.

   17. JRJoe Rogan13:48

       ... you can't just have these ideas and be unlikable.

   18. ASAndrew Schulz13:51

       Can't you get them to respect you?

   19. JRJoe Rogan13:53

       Yeah, but they gotta like you. They... I mean, you can get them to respect, but even respect is liking you. Like, you have to be... Someone could say one thing, like, there's... Like, the late, great Brody Stevens who just passed-

   20. ASAndrew Schulz14:04

       Yeah, RIP.

   21. JRJoe Rogan14:05

       ... if you looked at Brody's material on paper, some of it wasn't funny. And when you looked at it in real life, it was some of my best material that I ever, ever saw anybody do.

   22. ASAndrew Schulz14:15

       Right.

   23. JRJoe Rogan14:16

       Because Brody's personality was so likable-

   24. ASAndrew Schulz14:18

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan14:18

       ... and he was so funny on stage that you just wanted to laugh at him. It just... He, he figured out how to-

   26. ASAndrew Schulz14:25

       Authenticity.

   27. JRJoe Rogan14:26

       Yeah.

   28. ASAndrew Schulz14:26

       It's... Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan14:27

       And when I was starting out, I didn't have that. I was... I couldn't f- I didn't... I had a hard time making that switch. Then once I get better at s- I got better at standup, I realized, like, "Oh, there's... It's so similar." Because either it's funny or it's not funny.

   30. ASAndrew Schulz14:40

       That's it.
7. 17:23 – 22:30

   Edgy language, intent, and the politics of “radioactive” speech

   1. JRJoe Rogan17:23

      Well, I think we're in this weird time period. You know, there's an ebb and a flow to comedy, and right now it's the weirdest ebb. Because right now you have this weird comedy that i- i- it's, uh, people are saying things that they want the crowd to hear rather than saying things that are funny. They're saying things to hit all these checkpoints of progressive thinking.

   2. ASAndrew Schulz17:48

      "As a cis white male-"

   3. JRJoe Rogan17:50

      Yeah.

   4. ASAndrew Schulz17:50

      "... I believe..."

   5. JRJoe Rogan17:51

      (laughs) I don't say that word. Who gives a fuck? Do we... I mean, there's-

   6. ASAndrew Schulz17:55

      ... it's like- (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan17:56

      That shit ain't real.

   8. ASAndrew Schulz17:57

      The, it's not real. Like, I-

   9. JRJoe Rogan17:58

      Yeah.

   10. ASAndrew Schulz17:58

       The, the special that I have out now is called Views from the Cis.

   11. JRJoe Rogan18:01

       Yeah.

   12. ASAndrew Schulz18:01

       It's a play off a Drake album called Views From The 6, but the idea-

   13. JRJoe Rogan18:04

       Oh, okay.

   14. ASAndrew Schulz18:04

       ... is just like, yeah, these are straight guy views.

   15. JRJoe Rogan18:06

       Yeah.

   16. ASAndrew Schulz18:06

       Yeah. This is what the world needs right now.

   17. JRJoe Rogan18:08

       Well, y- you know, the world needs authenticity.

   18. ASAndrew Schulz18:11

       Yes.

   19. JRJoe Rogan18:11

       Whether it's authenticity from a trans person or auth- authenticity from a straight guy. The world needs someone to go out there and, and say what the fuck they really think and have a, a well measured take on things. And that's what I see you're doing.

   20. ASAndrew Schulz18:25

       Thank you.

   21. JRJoe Rogan18:25

       What you're, what you're doing is you're, you're going out there, you're expressing yourself, and the great thing about being turned down by all these platforms is they can't censor you.

   22. ASAndrew Schulz18:33

       Yes.

   23. JRJoe Rogan18:34

       They're not gonna tell you, "Hey, Andrew, we really like you, but, um, tranny, we can't have tran... You can't say that on our network."

   24. ASAndrew Schulz18:42

       (laughs) And then you go, "Why not?" And then they go, "Eh."

   25. JRJoe Rogan18:44

       Yeah. Well, I was like, how come you can say cabbie but you can't say tranny?

   26. ASAndrew Schulz18:47

       Granny.

   27. JRJoe Rogan18:48

       Yeah. (laughs) Granny.

   28. ASAndrew Schulz18:49

       Granny.

   29. JRJoe Rogan18:49

       Yeah, imagine-

   30. ASAndrew Schulz18:50

       The joke I have is transgender, tranny. Grandmother, granny. It's-
8. 22:30 – 31:45

   Post-nut syndrome, masculinity, and performative “male ally” behavior

   1. JRJoe Rogan22:30

      What a j- everybody, every... Women will never understand post-nut syndrome. I do not think they understand it.

   2. ASAndrew Schulz22:35

      And it, yeah, describe post-nut syndrome because this is something exclusive to us.

   3. JRJoe Rogan22:38

      Yes. Well-

   4. ASAndrew Schulz22:39

      And, like, I don't know I like you until I cum.

   5. JRJoe Rogan22:41

      P- yeah, that's true.

   6. ASAndrew Schulz22:42

      Right?

   7. JRJoe Rogan22:42

      Yeah, yeah.

   8. ASAndrew Schulz22:43

      You do not know-

   9. JRJoe Rogan22:44

      Yeah, yeah.

   10. ASAndrew Schulz22:44

       ... and it's, and that's why it's so fucked up, like, when, you know, women think we're fuck boys or-

   11. JRJoe Rogan22:48

       Mm-hmm.

   12. ASAndrew Schulz22:48

       ... or we're pieces of shit as dudes. It's like, you don't get it. I think I like you.

   13. JRJoe Rogan22:52

       Right.

   14. ASAndrew Schulz22:52

       Everything I'm saying to you, I believe.

   15. JRJoe Rogan22:54

       Right.

   16. ASAndrew Schulz22:55

       And my dick is just like, "Yeah, we gon' find out." (laughs) You know what I mean? Like-

   17. JRJoe Rogan22:58

       Right, right.

   18. ASAndrew Schulz22:58

       ... hey, we gon' see. And there are times where you nut and it's like, damn.

   19. JRJoe Rogan23:04

       Yeah, you realize you made a mistake, especially if the woman is really into you and you're really not into her and you're like, "Oh, I made an error." And then you do feel like an asshole.

   20. ASAndrew Schulz23:13

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan23:13

       But if you say that to them, they're like, "You're a fucking asshole." And I'm like, "I'm just being honest with you."

   22. ASAndrew Schulz23:17

       Biology.

   23. JRJoe Rogan23:17

       "I got tricked."

   24. ASAndrew Schulz23:18

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan23:18

       "By genetics."

   26. ASAndrew Schulz23:19

       Yeah. Why can't that be my biology?

   27. JRJoe Rogan23:21

       Huh.

   28. ASAndrew Schulz23:21

       Why can't I feel-

   29. JRJoe Rogan23:22

       So for women-

   30. ASAndrew Schulz23:23

       Yeah.
9. 31:45 – 1:03:45

   Softness, parenting, power, and mandatory service as a cultural reset

   1. ASAndrew Schulz31:45

      Like, these kids are soft, man. And, and it's, uh, we gotta stop blaming kids. We just gotta start blaming parents. Like, my parents were hard. Maybe my mom's an immigrant, maybe that's what it is, she's Scottish, but like, my parents were tough. Like, my mom let me punch my brother in the face once, because he, like, pulled my backpack or something.

   2. JRJoe Rogan32:01

      (laughs)

   3. ASAndrew Schulz32:02

      Like (laughs) , I remember, like, he, like, pulled my backpack. I was like, "Mom, he pulled my backpack. Can I just punch him?" She's like, "Once." (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan32:07

      That's hilarious.

   5. ASAndrew Schulz32:07

      She just let me punch him, right? And it was like, for her, when she grew up, that's what brothers did.

   6. JRJoe Rogan32:13

      Yeah.

   7. ASAndrew Schulz32:14

      And, like, people always do... You know, I know you have some guys come on the show and they talk about how, like, it's happening at the college level, like-

   8. JRJoe Rogan32:20

      Mm-hmm.

   9. ASAndrew Schulz32:20

      ... we're entitling these kids. And it's like-

   10. JRJoe Rogan32:22

       Yep.

   11. ASAndrew Schulz32:22

       ... no. It's happening in elementary school. It's when these kids... Well, I had my boy Marco point this out to me, both his parents are, uh, teachers in Rhode Island. He's like, "What happens is these f- these fucking kids complain about their teacher in school." Right?

   12. JRJoe Rogan32:36

       Mm-hmm.

   13. ASAndrew Schulz32:37

       "And when you and I were in school, our parents would go, 'Well yeah, sometimes your teacher don't like you, so figure it out.'"

   14. JRJoe Rogan32:42

       Yeah.

   15. ASAndrew Schulz32:42

       And now these kids go, "W- well mom, dad, the teacher doesn't like me." "Well, well let's switch you out of this school."

   16. JRJoe Rogan32:47

       Yeah.

   17. ASAndrew Schulz32:47

       "Let's switch your, your teacher. Let's get your teacher fired."

   18. JRJoe Rogan32:49

       Yeah.

   19. ASAndrew Schulz32:49

       So they start thinking the world bends around them. Right?

   20. JRJoe Rogan32:54

       Yeah.

   21. ASAndrew Schulz32:54

       And then, now this shit with the colleges, it's like, "I can't get into USC." And they say, "Oh, don't worry. We'll figure out how to get you-"

   22. JRJoe Rogan33:00

       (laughs)

   23. ASAndrew Schulz33:01

       "... into USC."

   24. JRJoe Rogan33:02

       That, that fucking college thing is nuts. But we'll t- we'll get to that.

   25. ASAndrew Schulz33:05

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan33:05

       But I wanna know what do you think is the root of the softness? Like, what is the shift?

   27. ASAndrew Schulz33:10

       Parents.

   28. JRJoe Rogan33:11

       But why? What's the shift?

   29. ASAndrew Schulz33:12

       Shi- I know exactly what it is.

   30. JRJoe Rogan33:13

       Okay.
10. 1:03:45 – 1:29:10

    Kickboxing, MMA skill hierarchies, and why wrestling dictates fights

    1. ASAndrew Schulz1:03:45

       I just started, uh, uh, taking a couple kickboxing-

    2. JRJoe Rogan1:03:48

       Yeah?

    3. ASAndrew Schulz1:03:48

       ... classes, trying to learn kickboxing.

    4. JRJoe Rogan1:03:49

       You got a good frame for it.

    5. ASAndrew Schulz1:03:51

       Yeah, I, I used to box, right? So it's like-

    6. JRJoe Rogan1:03:55

       Mm-hmm.

    7. ASAndrew Schulz1:03:55

       ... (smacks lips) the, the, the most hum- first of all, it's nice to have something to, like, wanna get better at that has nothing-

    8. JRJoe Rogan1:03:59

       Yeah.

    9. ASAndrew Schulz1:03:59

       ... to do with career.

    10. JRJoe Rogan1:04:00

        Sure.

    11. ASAndrew Schulz1:04:00

        Like, that's really fun.

    12. JRJoe Rogan1:04:01

        Yeah.

    13. ASAndrew Schulz1:04:01

        You know? But, uh, the, the interesting thing about the kicking aspect of it is, uh, when I, when I would see guys learning how to box, like, the hook is a tough punch for people to get, right?

    14. JRJoe Rogan1:04:12

        Right.

    15. ASAndrew Schulz1:04:13

        Because it's something you almost have to kinda, like, pop.

    16. JRJoe Rogan1:04:15

        Mm-hmm.

    17. ASAndrew Schulz1:04:15

        Right? It, and people try to throw it instead of let your body throw it. And that's who I am with kicks.

    18. JRJoe Rogan1:04:21

        Mm.

    19. ASAndrew Schulz1:04:22

        I feel the, like, the exact same person I've been-

    20. JRJoe Rogan1:04:25

        Right.

    21. ASAndrew Schulz1:04:26

        ... trying to teach how to throw. It's just my body doesn't wanna let the legs go.

    22. JRJoe Rogan1:04:31

        Yeah.

    23. ASAndrew Schulz1:04:31

        Does that make sense?

    24. JRJoe Rogan1:04:32

        Yeah, yeah, for sure.

    25. ASAndrew Schulz1:04:32

        I'm not jumping.

    26. JRJoe Rogan1:04:33

        Yeah.

    27. ASAndrew Schulz1:04:34

        You know? Um-

    28. JRJoe Rogan1:04:35

        I can help you.

    29. ASAndrew Schulz1:04:36

        Yeah, yeah, that's-

    30. JRJoe Rogan1:04:36

        I used to teach.

Episode duration: 3:11:32