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Joe Rogan Experience #1265 - Andrew Schulz

Andrew Schulz is a stand up comedian known for his work on Guy Code, The Brilliant Idiots podcast and the Amazon original series "Sneaky Pete."

Joe RoganhostAndrew SchulzguestGuest (unidentified friend/producer)guestJamie Vernonguest
Mar 14, 20193h 11mWatch on YouTube ↗

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0:02 – 1:55

Schulz’s DIY standup strategy: releasing a special on YouTube

Joe Rogan 0:02 Ready? (clears throat) Headphones, sir?

Andrew Schulz 0:07 Oh, yeah. Do I have to?

Joe Rogan 0:08 Mm, they're better. (headphones click) You'll lock in. Are we live? Hey, Andrew. How you doing?

Andrew Schulz 0:13 I'm good. How are you?

Joe Rogan 0:13 I'm good, man. What's up?

Andrew Schulz 0:14 Chilling, man. Thanks for having me.

Joe Rogan 0:16 Thanks for being here, dude.

Andrew Schulz 0:17 Of course, of course.

Joe Rogan 0:17 Hey, I like what you're doing.

Andrew Schulz 0:19 Thank you.

Joe Rogan 0:19 I like a lot of things what you're doing. Uh, first of all, I like that you're, you decided to put all your shit on YouTube.

Andrew Schulz 0:24 Yes.

Joe Rogan 0:24 You're like, "Fuck it."

Andrew Schulz 0:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:25 "Fuck it." Look, it's hard. Look, there's about a million fucking comedians today.

Andrew Schulz 0:29 Right, right.

Joe Rogan 0:29 There's more comedians now than ever.

Andrew Schulz 0:31 I can take these off. Is that all right?

Joe Rogan 0:31 You don't ... Yeah. You-

Andrew Schulz 0:32 I'll lock in. Don't worry.

Joe Rogan 0:33 We don't have to. We don't have to have them on. (clears throat) There's like a million comedians today.

Andrew Schulz 0:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:37 And a lot of these companies are overwhelmed.

Andrew Schulz 0:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:41 They have no room for all these up-and-coming guys that are coming up.

Andrew Schulz 0:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:44 And, you know, some, some guys like you are really good. And-

Andrew Schulz 0:48 Thank you.

Joe Rogan 0:48 ... there's, they're looking, you know, like, how do you, how do you get your shit out there? Well, just put it out there on YouTube.

Andrew Schulz 0:54 Exactly that.

Joe Rogan 0:55 Huh?

Andrew Schulz 0:55 Yeah. I mean, everybody just said no to me. That was the thing. So I didn't have a choice.

Joe Rogan 0:59 Well, a lot of people, that's happening to Bryan Callen right now.

Andrew Schulz 1:01 Right. And then he just did his, right?

Joe Rogan 1:03 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:03 He posted his thing. But, uh-

Joe Rogan 1:04 But he's releasing it on iTunes. He's releasing it on all the other platforms.

Andrew Schulz 1:08 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:09 But there's no fucking room.

Andrew Schulz 1:10 Yeah. It's, it's a weird thing because, uh, (sighs) I guess for me, you know, the, the standup industry wasn't really inviting to me, even from the beginning. So, uh, a couple years ago, I filmed my own, uh, special. And I did it in, uh, New York. And I did five clubs, and I did the cab rides in between. And the idea was, all right, if you don't fuck with me, at least you can appreciate, you know, this part of standup-

Joe Rogan 1:32 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 1:32 ... that is being a New York guy.

Joe Rogan 1:34 Did you do 15-minute sets at each place?

Andrew Schulz 1:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:36 Oh, wow. That's cool.

Andrew Schulz 1:37 Yeah. So I was like, I was like, "If you love the game-

Joe Rogan 1:41 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:41 ... you at least will take a look at this and maybe support this."

Joe Rogan 1:43 Right.

Andrew Schulz 1:44 And everybody said no. Like, Seeso said no.

Joe Rogan 1:49 Whoa.

Andrew Schulz 1:49 And I had a show with them.

Joe Rogan 1:51 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 1:51 Like, like, bro, it was bad. Like humbling, you know?

Joe Rogan 1:55 Whoa.

1:55 – 4:34

Short-form special, weekly joke drops, and the YouTube “wormhole” effect

Andrew Schulz 1:55 And, uh, but I just believed in the project, and I thought it was dope. So I cut like a, I cut a 15-minute version. But I'll tell you why I did it is 'cause, uh, you can learn everything you need about standup from asking people who don't do standup.

Joe Rogan 2:08 Really?

Andrew Schulz 2:08 Yeah. Like, I asked all my friends and just people I would meet. I'd be like, "Who are you watching, you know, these days?" And, you know, they'd say the names that we all know. And then they'd always say this. They'd be like, uh, "Yeah, it wa- it was funny, man, but I didn't finish it."

Joe Rogan 2:20 Hmm.

Andrew Schulz 2:20 Everybody said that, right? And I was like, "All right. So it's too long."

Joe Rogan 2:24 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 2:24 So I cut it down to 15. I did like a 15-minute version of the special. I did four clubs. And I just put it right onto YouTube. And, um, it was weird. I, like, sold out shows that weekend in San Diego, and I was never a sellout guy. You know, I'd have a few guys come out from the podcast I do-

Joe Rogan 2:38 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 2:38 ... and that kind of stuff, but it was never like a, like a sellout, you know?

Joe Rogan 2:42 Right.

Andrew Schulz 2:42 And I was like, "Well, that's kind of weird." And then I did a show in, like, Columbus, Ohio. You know, the, the-

Joe Rogan 2:47 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 2:47 ... what is it? The Funny Bone out there?

Joe Rogan 2:48 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 2:49 A great club.

Joe Rogan 2:50 Great club.

Andrew Schulz 2:50 And, um, I think we sold like 1,600 tickets. And I was like, "What the fuck is happening?" Like, I was nev- not in Ohio, you know? And, like, people were coming out, and they're like, "I liked your thing." I was like, "Oh shit, maybe people are, are watching this." And I started to kind of, like, sit back for a second. I was like, "Why are people watching it? Eh, maybe it's short." And I was like, "All right, fuck it. You know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna put a joke out a week for a year." You know, I got another 45 minutes left of the special, and I could probably produce some more standup. I'll just put a joke out a week. There was this singer who was doing that, and, like, he just put a song out a week. His name is Russ. And I was like, "All right, that's ... He's a worker." I can, I can at least control that. I can outwork somebody, so I'll do that. And, uh, I put the joke out for a week, and, like, the jokes started to go. And, like, some of them would go viral. And I was like, "Yo, this is crazy." And people were coming out to shows. And then my YouTube guy hits me. He goes, "Yo, something weird is happening." I go, "What's up?" And he goes, "When people watch a clip, they'll watch for two hours." I go, "What do you mean?" Like, "They'll just get lost in a wormhole." And I go, "So wait a minute. So people aren't watching an hour of standup on the networks, 'cause it's too long, but they're watching two hours of mine." I'm like, "Why the fuck would that happen?" And we figured out that it was you made the choice. When you're in control of your destiny, right-

Joe Rogan 4:14 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 4:14 ... you'll invest as much time as you want. It's hitting snooze on the alarm clock.

Joe Rogan 4:19 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 4:19 It's like, "All right, I'll take another eight minutes. I'll take another eight minutes." I won't set my alarm clock for an hour later.

Joe Rogan 4:24 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 4:24 That would be irresponsible. But I'll snooze, snooze, snooze. And when people make their own fucking choice, it was like, it was just crazy to see what happened, man.

4:34 – 7:06

Why YouTube beats TV: phones, autoplay, and multiple “access points”

Joe Rogan 4:34 It's also the platform. The platform, I mean, people on their phones ... Uh, Netflix told me that half the people that watched my special watched it on a phone.

Andrew Schulz 4:41 Of course. Absolutely.

Joe Rogan 4:43 So people that are watching phones, they're, they're ... You're, you're on that goddamn thing all day long, and it's way easier to flip a channel. It's way easier just, you got that remote in your hand anyway when you're sitting at home.

Andrew Schulz 4:54 That's a good point.

Joe Rogan 4:55 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 4:55 That's a really good point.

Joe Rogan 4:56 Yeah. When you're on your phone, you're going full screen. You gotta, like, tap it, move it, and-

Andrew Schulz 5:00 And you don't know what's next.

Joe Rogan 5:00 Right.

Andrew Schulz 5:01 I know if I turn this channel, it's ESPN2.

Joe Rogan 5:03 Exactly. Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 5:03 I don't know if I leave this video what I'm gonna see next.

Joe Rogan 5:06 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 5:07 Yeah, 100%. So-

Joe Rogan 5:08 There's a little bit of that. There's a little bit of phone addiction that contributes to a lot of views.

Andrew Schulz 5:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:12 But people love fucking YouTube.

Andrew Schulz 5:15 They love it.

Joe Rogan 5:15 I mean, YouTube never ends. You could be on it for the rest of your life and not put a dent in the content that's on there.

Andrew Schulz 5:21 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:22 I mean, it's-

Andrew Schulz 5:22 It's space.

Joe Rogan 5:23 Yeah, especially if you have, like ... Me, I got a lot of weird interests. Like, you look at, like, what it suggests for me.

Andrew Schulz 5:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:28 It's like, shit on the cosmos, muscle cars-

Andrew Schulz 5:31 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:31 ... professional pool matches, MMA.

Andrew Schulz 5:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:34 It's chaos.

Andrew Schulz 5:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:35 Uh, archery, it's all elk hunting and shit. It's crazy. Like, I could never leave my fucking house, just sit with my phone plugged in the wall and just numb my brain.

Andrew Schulz 5:44 And it keeps suggesting shit to you, right?

Joe Rogan 5:45 Oh, yeah, and it never ends.

Andrew Schulz 5:46 And you're like, "Yeah, I do want to check that out."

Joe Rogan 5:48 Soon as they did that, I, I, I saw this. When, back when there was no suggestions. Remember those days?

Andrew Schulz 5:52 Yeah, of course.

Joe Rogan 5:52 The dark days.

Andrew Schulz 5:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:54 Well, as soon as they started suggesting shit, I was like, "Oh my God, that's a big ... That's a game-changer."

Andrew Schulz 5:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:58 And then the next video just automatically plays, like ...Oh, you got us. You got us now. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 6:03 So it's- yeah.

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 6:03 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 6:03 So, it's, it's over. It's like it's just right there.

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 6:05 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 6:05 You have all your access points to it, you know?

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 6:07 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 6:07 I mean, that, that was the beauty of it, I've found is like, you know, with a special, your fa- your, your... Maybe the best joke that you have on your special to someone else-

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 6:16 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 6:17 ... is 33 minutes in.

Joe Rogan 6:18 Right.

Andrew Schulz 6:19 So that guy's gotta wait 33 minutes hoping you're gonna hit that joke.

Joe Rogan 6:23 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 6:24 Right? On YouTube, like, if I had your special and I cut it up to jokes on YouTube, with topic, not, you know, everything-

Joe Rogan 6:30 Right.

Andrew Schulz 6:30 ... under an umbrella, you know? And you have an access point here. You have, let's say, six different access points. With the new special I have out now, right, it's, it's six different pieces. So it's a different access point every single time. Some people might come for a Trump joke. Some people might come for a tranny joke. It doesn't matter, right?

Joe Rogan 6:45 Right.

Andrew Schulz 6:46 So it's not the situation where you have to go, "Okay, maybe I hit, 37 minutes in, this bit that I love." No, you're gonna get that bit right away, and then you're gonna go back to the beginning and go, "Okay, I'm gonna watch this all the way through."

Joe Rogan 6:58 Hmm.

Andrew Schulz 6:58 It's the music model. Like, for me, I, I didn't invent anything, I just stole it from music.

Joe Rogan 7:03 Right.

Andrew Schulz 7:03 It's like musicians put out a single for a reason, right?

7:06 – 10:35

Marketing vs pure craft: acquisition phase, success, and loving the game

Joe Rogan 7:06 Yeah, I, I kind of w- I'd like that if you're thinking about marketing.

Andrew Schulz 7:11 Yes, complete, complete-

Joe Rogan 7:13 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 7:13 Like, you and I are in way different places with standup, right? Like, you're one of the most famous people in the world, right? So you don't need to find new people to see you. People are going to watch your standup because they're like, "All right, I have an intimate relationship with this guy. I listen to him eight hours a week, and I just wanna see his standup," right? I'm still in marketing phase.

Joe Rogan 7:31 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 7:31 I'm like, "How can I get new people to see me?"

Joe Rogan 7:34 Right.

Andrew Schulz 7:34 There's five people that should have comedy specials now.

Joe Rogan 7:36 (laughs) There's more than that.

Andrew Schulz 7:37 There's five.

Joe Rogan 7:38 Hey, s- send Jeff out to get lighters. Tell him to go get some lighters. Um, how many people-

Andrew Schulz 7:43 You, Rock, Chappelle, Louis, Burr. That's it. Everybody else should be in acquisition phase. Why?

Joe Rogan 7:52 I don't know about that, man. I don't, I don't buy into that. I don't, first of all, I don't think that way. I never worry about what other people are doing. I just don't, I don't think about it.

Andrew Schulz 8:01 Right.

Joe Rogan 8:01 And then two, all I concentrate on is doing my best shit, that's it.

Andrew Schulz 8:06 Right.

Joe Rogan 8:07 And once I got to a point where I was successful enough where I didn't have to worry about money, it was a huge relief. And honestly, I s- I think I started doing my best work.

Andrew Schulz 8:15 Of course.

Joe Rogan 8:15 Because then, I wasn't thinking... I didn't have any resources that were dialed into, how do I promote this and how do I get that going? All my resources like, "This bit needs something more. Gotta figure out how to really sell that and I, I gotta put... Maybe if I switched it around." And so it's all about alchemy.

Andrew Schulz 8:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:33 You know? It's all about adding shit-

Andrew Schulz 8:35 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:35 ... and trying to make gold.

Andrew Schulz 8:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:37 All I'm doing is like stirring in the lab trying to make gold 'cause-

Andrew Schulz 8:39 'Cause you love creating them.

Joe Rogan 8:40 Yeah, well, I don't have... There's no thoughts on marketing now, like-

Andrew Schulz 8:44 That's, but that's-

Joe Rogan 8:45 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 8:45 You found out you love creating.

Joe Rogan 8:46 Yeah, oh, for sure.

Andrew Schulz 8:47 Like success-

Joe Rogan 8:47 I've always loved creating.

Andrew Schulz 8:48 But people, some people don't know that. Like-

Joe Rogan 8:50 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 8:50 ... some... I feel like success teaches you exactly what you wanted. Like, these people who blow up with standup and never do it again?

Joe Rogan 8:56 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 8:56 They never wanted to be a standup.

Joe Rogan 8:58 Right, right, right.

Andrew Schulz 8:59 Right? It's like-

Joe Rogan 8:59 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 9:00 ... if you blow up and all you're thinking about is, "How do I make this toe knuckle hair joke better?"

Joe Rogan 9:05 Right, right.

Andrew Schulz 9:06 You love the game.

Joe Rogan 9:07 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 9:07 You're like... I don't know, the greatest thing that ever happened for me was s- I stopped desiring things I couldn't control, right? Like, I've realized, oh, I don't care about a special on HBO or Netflix. I just wanted people to see it.

Joe Rogan 9:21 Right.

Andrew Schulz 9:21 And if they see it and 10 people see it, that's cool because I just loved making it. And if a million people see it, that's also cool. But if anybody sees it, it's gratitude.

Joe Rogan 9:31 Right.

Andrew Schulz 9:31 Do you see what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 9:31 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 9:31 Like, before I was just this void like so many, so much of us are. Like comics, I was just like trying to fill up.

Joe Rogan 9:37 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 9:37 You know, like, I'm sure you get, you know, people asking to be on the show and all that shit-

Joe Rogan 9:41 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 9:41 ... on a, all the time and like, it's just comics trying to take-

Joe Rogan 9:44 Yep.

Andrew Schulz 9:44 ... fill themselves.

Joe Rogan 9:45 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 9:45 Like, and I was an entitled little fucking brat probably. "Why don't I have a special? Why don't I have this shit?"

Joe Rogan 9:49 There's a lot of that going on, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 9:50 It's useless, bro. But I couldn't... You know how like every rich person goes, "Uh, money doesn't make you happy," and every poor person is like, "Man, when I'm rich, I'ma be happy"?

Joe Rogan 9:59 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 10:00 It's... I feel like it's like that. Like, I needed to get a certain amount of success for me to realize, man, I just love making these things.

Joe Rogan 10:08 Yeah. Everybody does. It's like th- it's, everybody does. And if you don't, if you don't, I mean, you're, you're either blessed or stupid.

Andrew Schulz 10:18 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:19 Like, one of those things. It's-

Andrew Schulz 10:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 10:20 It's either (laughs) , it's either you're, it's either you're this guy that's just pure or a woman who's pure right from the jump and you just, you're just all about creating.

Andrew Schulz 10:28 But yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:29 But it's, it's really just about-

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 10:30 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 10:30 ... you know, I was talking to Schaub about it, uh-

Andrew Schulz 10:32 Love Schaub. Shout out to Brandon.

Joe Rogan 10:33 ... uh, night before, that we were at the Comedy Store.

Andrew Schulz 10:35 Yeah.

10:35 – 12:56

Standup as flow-state “precision art” and the ethics of making people feel good

Joe Rogan 10:35 We were about to go on stage. I'm like, "How fun is killing? Killing's the most fun. I don't understand how people could quit this."

Andrew Schulz 10:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:42 "Quit doing comedy, man. How do you, how, why would you qui-" I'm like, out of all the shit that I do, if they said, "You could only do one?" I'd be like, "Comedy."

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 10:50 That's it. It's not quite, it's not even a question.

Joe Rogan 10:51 It's, uh, everything else I could just pretend I'm doing, you know? Whether it's, uh, UFC commentary, I just sit at home and watch TV and just talk about what someone's supposed to be doing.

Andrew Schulz 10:59 You can't fake it.

Joe Rogan 11:00 Right, can't fake comedy.

Andrew Schulz 11:02 You can fake literally everything else.

Joe Rogan 11:03 Everything else.

Andrew Schulz 11:05 You can't fake killing.

Joe Rogan 11:06 Yeah, yeah, you and I could have the same fucking conversation, which we probably would, if there was no cameras, no people-

Andrew Schulz 11:11 Exactly, yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:12 If you and I were just chilling in the main room, green room at the Comedy Store-

Andrew Schulz 11:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:15 ... we'd probably have the same conversation.

Andrew Schulz 11:18 Facts, 100%.

Joe Rogan 11:19 Yeah, yeah, but when you go up there, that is a, that is a precision art form that requires calculation and also zen-like smoothness and alpha flow. You gotta be in the zone, you gotta be in that flow state.

Andrew Schulz 11:34 Yep.

Joe Rogan 11:34 You gotta be happy.

Andrew Schulz 11:35 Yep.

Joe Rogan 11:36 But you also gotta be focused.

Andrew Schulz 11:37 Yep.

Joe Rogan 11:37 You gotta be having a good time, but concentrating on these people and, and projecting to them, and you want them to have a good time. You know, the whole deal is, one of, one of the best things about this job is you're making people feel good.

Andrew Schulz 11:49 Yes.

Joe Rogan 11:49 You're, you're, they're coming out of their house to see you and they come out of there feeling better.

Andrew Schulz 11:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:55 ... they, they have a good time.

Andrew Schulz 11:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:56 If everything goes right-

Andrew Schulz 11:58 They, they love it.

Joe Rogan 11:59 ... they feel better.

Andrew Schulz 12:00 They... And my mom, my mom said the exact same thing, said, "You're very lucky, uh, you get to make people feel good for a living."

Joe Rogan 12:05 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 12:05 "You have, like, an ethical job."

Joe Rogan 12:07 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 12:07 Like, how rare is that? Imagine-

Joe Rogan 12:08 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 12:08 ... you're one of these, like, insurance guys that has to, like, tell people they can't-

Joe Rogan 12:12 Oh.

Andrew Schulz 12:12 ... get their bills paid from their-

Joe Rogan 12:13 Oh.

Andrew Schulz 12:13 ... car accident-

Joe Rogan 12:14 Right.

Andrew Schulz 12:14 ... 'cause it was their fault.

Joe Rogan 12:15 Or imagine if you were like a, one of those big tobacco guys. You're driving around in a Rolls-Royce, knowing that someone's on an iron lung somewhere.

Andrew Schulz 12:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:22 You know?

Andrew Schulz 12:22 Jamie-

Joe Rogan 12:23 Knowing someone's drowning.

Andrew Schulz 12:23 ... where's the lighter? Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:25 (laughs) Knowing someone's drowning in their own fluid.

Andrew Schulz 12:28 Yeah, you feel like shit.

Joe Rogan 12:29 (gasping) And you just, "Fly me to the moon-"

Andrew Schulz 12:33 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:33 "... let me play among the stars."

Andrew Schulz 12:36 Dude, it's the best.

Joe Rogan 12:37 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 12:38 It's like, it's bullfighting.

Joe Rogan 12:40 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 12:40 That's what we do. Like-

Joe Rogan 12:41 Well, it's a-

Andrew Schulz 12:42 ... my buddy said it so, so well. He's like... 'Cause people used to always make the boxing analogy and I hated that, 'cause I used to box a little bit and, like, I never f- at all felt that it was similar. Like, I've never heard-

Joe Rogan 12:53 No.

Andrew Schulz 12:53 ... a boxer go, "Yeah, this is just like standup."

12:56 – 17:23

Truth, likability, and authenticity (martial arts parallels + Brody Stevens)

Joe Rogan 12:56 It is like a martial art, in that the truth is what works.

Andrew Schulz 13:02 Uh, go on that.

Joe Rogan 13:03 Because i- in martial arts, if you... Like, the... And the m- m- m- particularly in martial arts, not just in boxing-

Andrew Schulz 13:10 Right.

Joe Rogan 13:10 ... but boxing is a martial art. But the only stuff that works is the stuff that works, and if you hit a guy and he goes unconscious, it doesn't matter. One of the things that I used to like about fighting was that everybody could hate me and I didn't care. I didn't care, because when I got in there-

Andrew Schulz 13:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:24 ... and I'm like... I knew that I was gonna fuck that guy up. It doesn't matter h- what his friends think, doesn't matter how loud we-

Andrew Schulz 13:30 Yep.

Joe Rogan 13:30 ... loud his parents cheer.

Andrew Schulz 13:31 Yep.

Joe Rogan 13:32 I'm gonna kick that dude in his head and I'm gonna separate him from his consciousness.

Andrew Schulz 13:35 Meritocracy.

Joe Rogan 13:36 And that's just gonna happen.

Andrew Schulz 13:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:37 And there's nothing... And you can hate me all day long, it doesn't matter. But then I had to switch gears 100% into comedy, and I thought that was so different. And then I realized, because in comedy you have to get the people to like you-

Andrew Schulz 13:48 Right.

Joe Rogan 13:48 ... you can't just have these ideas and be unlikable.

Andrew Schulz 13:51 Can't you get them to respect you?

Joe Rogan 13:53 Yeah, but they gotta like you. They... I mean, you can get them to respect, but even respect is liking you. Like, you have to be... Someone could say one thing, like, there's... Like, the late, great Brody Stevens who just passed-

Andrew Schulz 14:04 Yeah, RIP.

Joe Rogan 14:05 ... if you looked at Brody's material on paper, some of it wasn't funny. And when you looked at it in real life, it was some of my best material that I ever, ever saw anybody do.

Andrew Schulz 14:15 Right.

Joe Rogan 14:16 Because Brody's personality was so likable-

Andrew Schulz 14:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:18 ... and he was so funny on stage that you just wanted to laugh at him. It just... He, he figured out how to-

Andrew Schulz 14:25 Authenticity.

Joe Rogan 14:26 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 14:26 It's... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:27 And when I was starting out, I didn't have that. I was... I couldn't f- I didn't... I had a hard time making that switch. Then once I get better at s- I got better at standup, I realized, like, "Oh, there's... It's so similar." Because either it's funny or it's not funny.

Andrew Schulz 14:40 That's it.

Joe Rogan 14:41 Like, either it works or it doesn't work. And your job is not... Like, some comics get, they get caught up in their image. They get caught up in how they want the audience to think of them-

Andrew Schulz 14:51 Yep, yep.

Joe Rogan 14:52 ... and they dress a certain way-

Andrew Schulz 14:53 Yep.

Joe Rogan 14:53 ... on purpose because they wanna project this image.

Andrew Schulz 14:56 Yep.

Joe Rogan 14:56 And they'll even say things on stage that are kinda gross-

Andrew Schulz 14:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:59 ... that they're, they're only saying it because they want the audience to think they're cool.

Andrew Schulz 15:03 Right.

Joe Rogan 15:03 And it m- gives you a little, like, "Ew." But maybe they're good enough so that-

Andrew Schulz 15:06 You see it.

Joe Rogan 15:06 ... you still laugh.

Andrew Schulz 15:07 Not everybody.

Joe Rogan 15:08 Yeah. So-

Andrew Schulz 15:08 It is... Authenticity illuminates-

Joe Rogan 15:11 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 15:11 ... all.

Joe Rogan 15:11 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 15:11 Those comics can't follow a real comic.

Joe Rogan 15:13 Right.

Andrew Schulz 15:14 Have you ever noticed this?

Joe Rogan 15:15 They have a hard time, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 15:15 Like, when you see someone who's being truthful, he might not even be as funny, he might not be killing as hard, but it's so authentic that when the comic comes next, it feels like they're reading jokes off a paper.

Joe Rogan 15:28 Right.

Andrew Schulz 15:28 Right?

Joe Rogan 15:29 Right, right, right.

Andrew Schulz 15:29 And it's... Our bodies are keyed into... Like, comedy's reptilian if you do it right.

Joe Rogan 15:34 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 15:35 Right? You know, like, a lot of times people ask, like, why, like, old women can laugh at the same jokes that I'm telling that, like, these y- young people can laugh at. And then my response is always, "It's not their choice." Like, I'm not telling you jokes to your choice. Like, The Daily Show with Trevor Noah is jokes about how you want the world to be.

Joe Rogan 15:52 Right.

Andrew Schulz 15:52 I'm telling you jokes about how you deep down feel-

Joe Rogan 15:56 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 15:57 ... it is.

Joe Rogan 15:57 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 15:57 I'm going at your gut.

Joe Rogan 15:58 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 15:58 It's reptile shit.

Joe Rogan 15:59 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 16:00 So it's like, if it's in here already-

Joe Rogan 16:02 Right.

Andrew Schulz 16:02 ... you're gonna laugh regardless of how old you are, regardless of how you were raised-

Joe Rogan 16:06 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 16:06 ... this is how you feel. And I think that's why you guys love, um, Diaz so much.

Joe Rogan 16:11 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 16:12 Do you know what I mean? It's like-

Joe Rogan 16:13 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 16:13 ... he doesn't ha- know how to not be himself.

Joe Rogan 16:15 Right.

Andrew Schulz 16:16 He's, he's like a, like, he's like a... What is he? Latino? What kinda Latin is he?

Joe Rogan 16:20 Cuban.

Andrew Schulz 16:20 He's a Cuban Larry David.

Joe Rogan 16:22 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 16:22 Do you know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 16:23 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 16:23 It's just like, like, what is Larry David? The whole show is what if someone was authentic 24 hours a day?

Joe Rogan 16:30 Right.

Andrew Schulz 16:30 What was Patrice? Raw authenticity 24 hours a day.

Joe Rogan 16:35 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 16:35 And we're drawn to that in its worst form, in its best form-

Joe Rogan 16:38 Yep.

Andrew Schulz 16:38 ... but we're fucking drawn to that. And, like, there's something beautiful. That... Like, that's why I always use the bullfighter analogy. It's like the bull, for me, is the premise, it's not the crowd.

Joe Rogan 16:49 Mm.

Andrew Schulz 16:50 The crowd is still the crowd.

Joe Rogan 16:51 Right.

Andrew Schulz 16:52 It's like, how close can I get to this dangerous premise?

Joe Rogan 16:55 Right.

Andrew Schulz 16:56 And I don't wanna box with it, I wanna dance with it.

Joe Rogan 16:59 Right.

Andrew Schulz 16:59 I want it to put m- his nose up against my nose and then I wanna skewer it. But before I skewer it, I wanna fucking do that shit where I click my heels and I do the little cape and I wanna entertain the fuck out of the crowd-

Joe Rogan 17:11 Right.

Andrew Schulz 17:12 ... with this dangerous-

Joe Rogan 17:13 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 17:13 ... substance, you know?

Joe Rogan 17:14 Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 17:14 It's like, that's what the fuck we do.

Joe Rogan 17:16 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 17:16 That's why we roll our eyes when we see the pandering shit. We're like-

Joe Rogan 17:19 Right.

Andrew Schulz 17:19 ... "What are you wasting this for?"

Joe Rogan 17:20 Exactly.

Andrew Schulz 17:21 It's a fucking superpower.

17:23 – 22:30

Edgy language, intent, and the politics of “radioactive” speech

Joe Rogan 17:23 Well, I think we're in this weird time period. You know, there's an ebb and a flow to comedy, and right now it's the weirdest ebb. Because right now you have this weird comedy that i- i- it's, uh, people are saying things that they want the crowd to hear rather than saying things that are funny. They're saying things to hit all these checkpoints of progressive thinking.

Andrew Schulz 17:48 "As a cis white male-"

Joe Rogan 17:50 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 17:50 "... I believe..."

Joe Rogan 17:51 (laughs) I don't say that word. Who gives a fuck? Do we... I mean, there's-

Andrew Schulz 17:55 ... it's like- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 17:56 That shit ain't real.

Andrew Schulz 17:57 The, it's not real. Like, I-

Joe Rogan 17:58 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 17:58 The, the special that I have out now is called Views from the Cis.

Joe Rogan 18:01 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 18:01 It's a play off a Drake album called Views From The 6, but the idea-

Joe Rogan 18:04 Oh, okay.

Andrew Schulz 18:04 ... is just like, yeah, these are straight guy views.

Joe Rogan 18:06 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 18:06 Yeah. This is what the world needs right now.

Joe Rogan 18:08 Well, y- you know, the world needs authenticity.

Andrew Schulz 18:11 Yes.

Joe Rogan 18:11 Whether it's authenticity from a trans person or auth- authenticity from a straight guy. The world needs someone to go out there and, and say what the fuck they really think and have a, a well measured take on things. And that's what I see you're doing.

Andrew Schulz 18:25 Thank you.

Joe Rogan 18:25 What you're, what you're doing is you're, you're going out there, you're expressing yourself, and the great thing about being turned down by all these platforms is they can't censor you.

Andrew Schulz 18:33 Yes.

Joe Rogan 18:34 They're not gonna tell you, "Hey, Andrew, we really like you, but, um, tranny, we can't have tran... You can't say that on our network."

Andrew Schulz 18:42 (laughs) And then you go, "Why not?" And then they go, "Eh."

Joe Rogan 18:44 Yeah. Well, I was like, how come you can say cabbie but you can't say tranny?

Andrew Schulz 18:47 Granny.

Joe Rogan 18:48 Yeah. (laughs) Granny.

Andrew Schulz 18:49 Granny.

Joe Rogan 18:49 Yeah, imagine-

Andrew Schulz 18:50 The joke I have is transgender, tranny. Grandmother, granny. It's-

Joe Rogan 18:53 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 18:54 ... th- how is this bad?

Joe Rogan 18:55 Right. How, what is happening where you... It's kinda cute.

Andrew Schulz 18:58 Bro, it's, we do it out of love.

Joe Rogan 19:00 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 19:01 If we shorten something and add a Y, it's affectionate.

Joe Rogan 19:05 Sort of. Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 19:06 What's not?

Joe Rogan 19:07 Uh, if you're talking-

Andrew Schulz 19:08 Oh, you, you pull your hammy.

Joe Rogan 19:09 You're talking shit to someone and call them Shorty. "Hey, fucking Shorty."

Andrew Schulz 19:13 Ready?

Joe Rogan 19:13 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 19:14 That's longer.

Joe Rogan 19:15 Shorty is longer. Yeah, it's true.

Andrew Schulz 19:17 If you add... That's why Blackie's wrong.

Joe Rogan 19:20 Right, right.

Andrew Schulz 19:20 Right? Like-

Joe Rogan 19:20 'Cause it's longer. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 19:21 So it's like, it's, the logic is there. It's impenetrable, right?

Joe Rogan 19:25 Right. Sorta, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 19:26 This tranny-

Joe Rogan 19:28 What about Japs?

Andrew Schulz 19:28 What about it?

Joe Rogan 19:29 That's not good.

Andrew Schulz 19:30 But Jappy's cute.

Joe Rogan 19:32 Jap, like Jewish American Princess.

Andrew Schulz 19:32 Oh, you're talking about Jews or are you talking about-

Joe Rogan 19:34 No, Japanese people.

Andrew Schulz 19:35 Oh.

Joe Rogan 19:36 You call them the Japs. That's how, uh, that's how the World War II people-

Andrew Schulz 19:38 Yeah, Japs versus Japanese?

Joe Rogan 19:40 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 19:40 Why is that bad?

Joe Rogan 19:41 Well, it's bad because that's how the soldiers used to talk about them and the people used to talk about them during World War II when they were at war with them.

Andrew Schulz 19:48 So here's my question. What if somebody was like, "You know who has one of the most refined cultures and delicious cuisine that I've ever experienced?"

Joe Rogan 19:55 The Japs.

Andrew Schulz 19:55 These Japs.

Joe Rogan 19:55 (laughs) That's...

Andrew Schulz 19:57 Right? It's not bad.

Joe Rogan 19:58 You can't say that. You can't say that. You know who dances the best? The spics. If- (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 20:01 Well...

Joe Rogan 20:05 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 20:05 These spics be dancing, bro. I don't know what to tell you.

Joe Rogan 20:07 They, they dance their ass off.

Andrew Schulz 20:07 They could dance, like, what are you gonna disagree with that? But-

Joe Rogan 20:08 They can fucking dance.

Andrew Schulz 20:10 Isn't it intention?

Joe Rogan 20:12 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 20:12 Right, like, it's inte- like, there-

Joe Rogan 20:13 Yeah, intent, yes, it's everything. Yes.

Andrew Schulz 20:14 It's intent, right? It's like, so I was talking to this... There was a, um, there, there was a, there was a trans chick that got upset at the joke and she was like, you know, she basically said to me, she's like, "How, you know, you probably wouldn't like it too if as you were walking home at night someone called you tranny and then threw a bottle at you." And I was like, "I mean, I don't respond to, you know, to negative comments, but all I'm thinking is, if you were walking home at night and someone said transgender and then threw a bottle at you, I think it'd be equally upsetting."

Joe Rogan 20:43 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 20:44 Right? It's not what the word is.

Joe Rogan 20:47 It has nothing to do... Right.

Andrew Schulz 20:47 It's a, like, there are certain words that are made to make you feel bad.

Joe Rogan 20:50 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 20:50 The N-word is made specifically to make you feel bad.

Joe Rogan 20:53 Unless you're a black guy.

Andrew Schulz 20:55 Right.

Joe Rogan 20:55 And you're using it with your friends.

Andrew Schulz 20:56 Right, and even then it is... Like, you can use it however you want, but the designation of the word, right, is to make you feel bad. That's what it's designed for.

Joe Rogan 21:05 Ooh, that's what it-

Andrew Schulz 21:05 It wasn't made up by black dudes, right?

Joe Rogan 21:06 ... was, was designed for, but I think black people have successfully taken a word that was negative and empowered it.

Andrew Schulz 21:12 Sure.

Joe Rogan 21:12 To the point where it's laughing, fun.

Andrew Schulz 21:15 Absolutely.

Joe Rogan 21:15 They're having good times and bad times. I- and you could use it to describe a powerful person.

Andrew Schulz 21:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:20 You could use it to describe an amazing artist, an amazing athlete.

Andrew Schulz 21:24 (laughs) Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:25 You could use it in the-

Andrew Schulz 21:25 It's a, it's, it's-

Joe Rogan 21:26 ... all the ways.

Andrew Schulz 21:27 Yeah, it is.

Joe Rogan 21:27 It's the most fluid word.

Andrew Schulz 21:29 It's unbelievable.

Joe Rogan 21:30 It's an incredible word in terms of, like, its ability to be used on, in all... It's almost like the word fuck, right? Like, you could stub your toe and fuck.

Andrew Schulz 21:40 Fuck.

Joe Rogan 21:40 Or you could see a Ferrari go fuck.

Andrew Schulz 21:43 Fuck. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:43 It's, do you know in Brazilian, it's the word cum they use for that?

Andrew Schulz 21:48 Wait, what?

Joe Rogan 21:48 Yeah. It's porra. Porra.

Andrew Schulz 21:51 Okay.

Joe Rogan 21:51 So, like, you know, like, someone will catch a guy in a choke and they'll go, "Porra." Like, that's a good thing.

Andrew Schulz 21:57 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:58 Or you fuck up yourself, you're like, "Ah, porra, I forgot my keys."

Andrew Schulz 22:01 Yeah, yeah, yeah. In Spanish they say, "Puta madre."

Joe Rogan 22:03 Yeah. Well, that's-

Andrew Schulz 22:03 Which means, like, mother bitch.

Joe Rogan 22:04 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 22:04 But it's like a g- it could be a good thing. "Puta madre, yo."

Joe Rogan 22:07 But that makes sense, like, "Mother bitch, goddammit."

Andrew Schulz 22:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:10 But cum doesn't even make any sense. Like, I was trying to, my, my-

Andrew Schulz 22:13 But the feeling of it.

Joe Rogan 22:14 I guess.

Andrew Schulz 22:14 When you cum, it's like that is the sensation. Like, that was so good.

Joe Rogan 22:18 Right.

Andrew Schulz 22:19 Watching you do that almost felt like me nutting.

Joe Rogan 22:21 And it could be bad in that, like, your dick tricked you into fucking this girl that you've been trying to avoid, and then you cum and you're like, "Fuck."

Andrew Schulz 22:28 It makes me doing that, bro. That is, there's regret.

22:30 – 31:45

Post-nut syndrome, masculinity, and performative “male ally” behavior

Joe Rogan 22:30 What a j- everybody, every... Women will never understand post-nut syndrome. I do not think they understand it.

Andrew Schulz 22:35 And it, yeah, describe post-nut syndrome because this is something exclusive to us.

Joe Rogan 22:38 Yes. Well-

Andrew Schulz 22:39 And, like, I don't know I like you until I cum.

Joe Rogan 22:41 P- yeah, that's true.

Andrew Schulz 22:42 Right?

Joe Rogan 22:42 Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 22:43 You do not know-

Joe Rogan 22:44 Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 22:44 ... and it's, and that's why it's so fucked up, like, when, you know, women think we're fuck boys or-

Joe Rogan 22:48 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 22:48 ... or we're pieces of shit as dudes. It's like, you don't get it. I think I like you.

Joe Rogan 22:52 Right.

Andrew Schulz 22:52 Everything I'm saying to you, I believe.

Joe Rogan 22:54 Right.

Andrew Schulz 22:55 And my dick is just like, "Yeah, we gon' find out." (laughs) You know what I mean? Like-

Joe Rogan 22:58 Right, right.

Andrew Schulz 22:58 ... hey, we gon' see. And there are times where you nut and it's like, damn.

Joe Rogan 23:04 Yeah, you realize you made a mistake, especially if the woman is really into you and you're really not into her and you're like, "Oh, I made an error." And then you do feel like an asshole.

Andrew Schulz 23:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:13 But if you say that to them, they're like, "You're a fucking asshole." And I'm like, "I'm just being honest with you."

Andrew Schulz 23:17 Biology.

Joe Rogan 23:17 "I got tricked."

Andrew Schulz 23:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:18 "By genetics."

Andrew Schulz 23:19 Yeah. Why can't that be my biology?

Joe Rogan 23:21 Huh.

Andrew Schulz 23:21 Why can't I feel-

Joe Rogan 23:22 So for women-

Andrew Schulz 23:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:23 ... let me explain what this is like.

Andrew Schulz 23:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:25 You have this...

Andrew Schulz 23:26 It's like finding out your guy was poor.

Joe Rogan 23:28 This is what it's like. This is how I describe it. Having an erection and g- getting excited-

Andrew Schulz 23:33 Right.

Joe Rogan 23:33 ... is like sitting in the back seat of a really long bus.

Andrew Schulz 23:36 Okay.

Joe Rogan 23:36 And there's some other guy up there driving the bus. Most of the time, you're driving the bus. Not when your dick is hard.

Andrew Schulz 23:42 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:42 When your dick is hard, there's some other guy driving the bus.

Andrew Schulz 23:44 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:44 And all the windows are rolled down, there's papers flying around, the horn's honking (imitates horn) and you're looking at life taking place through a dirty windshield 100 feet away from you. And you're like, "Do you even know where the fuck you're going?"

Andrew Schulz 23:57 (laughs) We passed the stop. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:59 And your dick's like, "Just shut the fuck up and calm down. I got this." And then when you cum, all of a sudden the fog parts.... and you're at the front of the bus holding the wheel.

Andrew Schulz 24:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:10 And you're like, "What? What am I doing here?"

Andrew Schulz 24:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:13 "How'd I get here? Ah." And you look down at your dick. "You motherfucker."

Andrew Schulz 24:17 Bro, it's, it's being a werewolf.

Joe Rogan 24:18 Yeah. It is being a werewolf.

Andrew Schulz 24:20 Right?

Joe Rogan 24:20 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 24:20 Like, isn't that what it's-

Joe Rogan 24:21 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 24:21 ... a metaphor for?

Joe Rogan 24:21 Oh, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 24:22 You're this ravenous creature, you're running around-

Joe Rogan 24:24 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 24:24 ... doing crazy shit-

Joe Rogan 24:25 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 24:25 ... and then you wake up in the morning naked, you're like, "What the f-"

Joe Rogan 24:26 Terrified, covered in blood.

Andrew Schulz 24:27 Yeah. Well-

Joe Rogan 24:28 Fuck.

Andrew Schulz 24:28 ... sometimes.

Joe Rogan 24:29 Sometimes.

Andrew Schulz 24:29 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:30 Yeah. "Goddamn it, what did I do? What did I do? Who am I? I gotta turn myself in." Yeah. It's, uh, it's terrible. But th- that's one of the reasons why, you know, it's so hilarious when you see someone who is a stereotypical male feminist, 'cause, you know, they barely have enough testosterone to keep their heart beating.

Andrew Schulz 24:51 Oh. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:51 And they probably don't get post-nut syndrome 'cause they just want everyone to love them.

Andrew Schulz 24:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:57 And they're in this weird state of, you know, Benedict Arnold, they're being a gender traitor. I mean, that's really what's going on.

Andrew Schulz 25:04 (laughs) Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:04 It's a lot of what it is.

Andrew Schulz 25:05 (laughs) Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:05 Like, there are men that want women to be valued, and, and-

Andrew Schulz 25:08 Trying to get pussy, man. That's what they're doing-

Joe Rogan 25:10 Right. But there's-

Andrew Schulz 25:10 ... is a hustle.

Joe Rogan 25:11 But there's, there's men that want women to have all the same eq- uh, all the same opportunities-

Andrew Schulz 25:16 Right.

Joe Rogan 25:16 ... and equality, and they want, they wanna value them as human beings, and that's all real. Tho- th- that is real. But there's way more sneaky, weak fucks that are pretending they think like this.

Andrew Schulz 25:30 Yes.

Joe Rogan 25:30 Because they know that women go, "Good, good, you're on our side. You're an ally. Come over here, ally."

Andrew Schulz 25:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:35 "You're a male ally." And they're always these, like, weasely little dudes with tiny hands, and, uh, or even if they're big, they're, like, they're awkward and they've had a hard-

Andrew Schulz 25:44 They're weak.

Joe Rogan 25:44 ... time with women. "Ugh." And so they just shit on these men who they feel they're in competition with.

Andrew Schulz 25:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:51 It's a complete hater move.

Andrew Schulz 25:53 Absolutely.

Joe Rogan 25:54 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 25:54 You see it in everything. You see it in comedy, it's like-

Joe Rogan 25:56 Oh.

Andrew Schulz 25:56 ... "Oh, I can't do that type of comedy, so I'm gonna make that comedy radioactive-"

Joe Rogan 26:00 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 26:00 "... so that this is the only type of comedy that's allowed."

Joe Rogan 26:03 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 26:04 You know what I'm saying? "Hey, that comedy is..." So for example, like, it doesn't have to be comedy. It could really be any kinda situation. It's like you're just trying to carve out the market share, right?

Joe Rogan 26:14 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 26:14 Like, "Ooh, that comedy's dirty. That's edgy. That's-"

Joe Rogan 26:16 Right.

Andrew Schulz 26:16 "... sexist. That's bigoted."

Joe Rogan 26:17 Sensor it.

Andrew Schulz 26:18 Sensor it.

Joe Rogan 26:19 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 26:19 All that's saying is, "I don't wanna compete with pussy with, with those guys."

Joe Rogan 26:22 It's a little bit of that, but it's also, like, the same thing you see with the right versus the left. Like, w- uh, there's a lot of people online f- from each side-

Andrew Schulz 26:30 Right.

Joe Rogan 26:30 ... that wanna sensor the opinions of the other people.

Andrew Schulz 26:32 For sure.

Joe Rogan 26:32 Instead of having a better opinion-

Andrew Schulz 26:34 Yeah, that's a power grab.

Joe Rogan 26:34 ... they wanna shut that opinion off.

Andrew Schulz 26:35 Right.

Joe Rogan 26:36 Exactly.

Andrew Schulz 26:36 Yeah. So it's like-

Joe Rogan 26:37 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 26:37 And th- and when they don't have a better opinion, they just make you radioactive so they don't even have to talk to you.

Joe Rogan 26:42 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 26:42 "You're racist."

Joe Rogan 26:43 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 26:43 "Hey, Joe Rogan, you're racist."

Joe Rogan 26:44 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 26:44 And you're like, "What do you mean? Let's talk about it." And you're like, "I don't talk to racists."

Joe Rogan 26:47 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 26:47 Ooh, that was clever what you did.

Joe Rogan 26:49 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 26:49 You see what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 26:50 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 26:50 Like, I went through that.

Joe Rogan 26:51 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 26:51 Like, the second I had an opinion that went against the grain, immediately I'm labeled as something-

Joe Rogan 26:56 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 26:56 ... that they don't even have to have a dialogue with.

Joe Rogan 26:58 Right, they just shut you down.

Andrew Schulz 26:59 Boom.

Joe Rogan 26:59 Yeah. "Oh, you're a white supremacist."

Andrew Schulz 27:01 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 27:01 "Oh, you're alt-right."

Andrew Schulz 27:02 Yes.

Joe Rogan 27:03 "Oh, oh, you're this, you're that." Yeah. It's, it's, it's a simple, weak way to end a conversation, but all it does is ex- c- it only works... It's like, it's like a magic trick. It only works if you don't know what they're trying to do.

Andrew Schulz 27:16 So how, what percentage of the population knows it, right? That's, that's the question I've been trying to wrap my head around is, like, like, you and I can sit here and, and see this all day, but I think most people are seeking confirmation, not information, right?

Joe Rogan 27:32 Mm.

Andrew Schulz 27:32 Like, most people, like, they start out their day going, "I feel this way." It could be right, left, central, it doesn't matter, and then they're seeking out information that confirms that, right?

Joe Rogan 27:41 But you know what? There's a parallel to that with what we were talking about with standup comedy and your career, because the reason why those people seek out confirmation rather than information is 'cause they're insecure.

Andrew Schulz 27:51 Yes.

Joe Rogan 27:51 They're not at a good place.

Andrew Schulz 27:52 Yes.

Joe Rogan 27:53 But once you're in a good place, like, e- everything feels good. Like, say if you're in a good relationship and-

Andrew Schulz 27:58 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 27:59 ... you, you know, you have a good woman in your life and you're happy and everything's going well, then you see a lot of things for what they are versus if you're in the hunt, you're trying to get people to love you. You know what I mean?

Andrew Schulz 28:11 You don't have any excess.

Joe Rogan 28:12 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 28:12 It's like... I mean, this is a weird, uh, like, segue to it, but, like, I, I tried moll- I've never did a lot of drugs, but I tried molly at Burning Man, right? And, um, it was the first time that I experienced, maybe outside of, like, comedy, but first time experiencing having, like, extra love.

Joe Rogan 28:28 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 28:28 Right? So instead of operating on a deficit and, like, trying to make you laugh so-

Joe Rogan 28:32 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 28:32 ... I fill the void, or, like, trying to say something interesting so I fill the void, I had extra. And what I did with the extra, without even realizing it, is I called my closest friends and my parents, and I just told them how special they were. Now, I didn't realize that until years later that that's what you do with excess.

Joe Rogan 28:50 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 28:50 Right? So how do I get to excess without drugs, right? The, the question for me was also how do I find fulfillment in shit that is not in other people's hands? So much... Like, when we, when we were talking to the Comedy Store, like, what I fucking love about the LA scene right now is that comics have control of it, right?

Joe Rogan 29:10 Mm.

Andrew Schulz 29:10 So it's like comics are pushing the comedy culture right now, and it's because they're empowered. You guys have money. You guys have sustainability with your fans. You're not going, "Am I gonna get another pilot with Comedy Central? Am I gonna get, am I gonna g-"

Joe Rogan 29:23 Hmm. That's how it used to be here.

Andrew Schulz 29:24 Of course. When the industry ran it, comedy sucked. You guys were talking about fucking unicycles and shit, right? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 29:29 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 29:29 And that's why, and that's why... No, it's true. And, and, and, and look, we would come out in, from New York, and we would come out, and we'd be kinda disillusioned at the comedy scene back here, and maybe that was, like, some New York, West Coast, East Coast beef or whatever, and... But what's funny is how the ecosystem always balances itself.

Joe Rogan 29:44 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 29:45 Because as soft as comedy was out here, all of a sudden, outta nowhere, this show called Roast Battle pops up.

Joe Rogan 29:52 Hmm.

Andrew Schulz 29:53 Right?

Joe Rogan 29:53 This is the hardest show.

Andrew Schulz 29:54 The hard- (laughs) the hardest show.

Joe Rogan 29:55 Bro, like, wild, right?

Andrew Schulz 29:58 It's so hard. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 29:58 Insane. But here's a perfect example. Comedy Central took that and they, they half-watered it.

Andrew Schulz 30:04 Of course.

Joe Rogan 30:04 They cut it like they would sell cocaine.Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 30:07 Right? You're not getting the pure.

Joe Rogan 30:08 No.

Andrew Schulz 30:09 You're not getting it from Columbia.

Joe Rogan 30:10 You're not even getting, not even remotely.

Andrew Schulz 30:11 Right?

Joe Rogan 30:11 They took all the juicy stuff out. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 30:13 Took the authenticity right out. But it was real for a minute.

Joe Rogan 30:16 But you can go there still on Tuesday night and that place gets fucking wild.

Andrew Schulz 30:20 Ramped.

Joe Rogan 30:20 I get sad.

Andrew Schulz 30:21 What do you mean?

Joe Rogan 30:22 I feel sad for some people that get toasted up there.

Andrew Schulz 30:24 Yeah. I saw a joke.

Joe Rogan 30:25 Oof.

Andrew Schulz 30:26 There was some kid whose-

Joe Rogan 30:27 Oof.

Andrew Schulz 30:27 ... not retarded, but what is it? Uh-

Joe Rogan 30:29 Cerebral palsy.

Andrew Schulz 30:30 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, um, and, and he's up there with his palsy and the other guy goes, uh, he goes (laughs) , he goes, "You look like your arms drew your legs."

Joe Rogan 30:40 Oh, Jesus Christ. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 30:42 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:42 Bro, bro. I fucking howled, dude.

Andrew Schulz 30:45 That is so fucked up.

Joe Rogan 30:45 We were fuck... He's up there fucking shaking and-

Andrew Schulz 30:47 That's so fucked up.

Joe Rogan 30:49 You know what I mean? Oh my God, that's so fucked up.

Andrew Schulz 30:49 But he said he looks, he looks like someone put their body in a blender. No, he looks like someone put your voodoo doll in a blender.

Joe Rogan 30:55 Oh my God.

Andrew Schulz 30:55 Bro, it was so ruthless, but that's what it needed-

Joe Rogan 30:58 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 30:58 ... to balance the system. Right?

Joe Rogan 31:00 Well, it definitely helped. You know, I mean-

Andrew Schulz 31:02 You misso-

Joe Rogan 31:02 ... there's a bunch of factors, but what, what Roast Battle is, first of all, there's, uh, the, there's good things and bad things about m- First of all, Brian Moses, the guy who hosts it, is one of the nicest guys on the planet Earth.

Andrew Schulz 31:14 Boom.

Joe Rogan 31:14 And that helps. And then also he says, you know, "It never gets physical. At the end, we all hug." Like, there's good in that.

Andrew Schulz 31:21 Of course.

Joe Rogan 31:22 You know? And then when people go after each other, like, there's, there's a guilty pleasure to it that doesn't exist anymore. It's like there's a guilty pleasure to that kind of humor. It's very hard to get. If you're a fan of that kind of fucking vicious, awful comedy, it's very difficult to get anymore, 'cause people don't roast each other anymore.

Andrew Schulz 31:41 No. They're afraid.

Joe Rogan 31:42 Yeah. They're afraid and they're n- and...

Andrew Schulz 31:43 And they're soft. Like these-

Joe Rogan 31:44 Yeah.

31:45 – 1:03:45

Softness, parenting, power, and mandatory service as a cultural reset

Andrew Schulz 31:45 Like, these kids are soft, man. And, and it's, uh, we gotta stop blaming kids. We just gotta start blaming parents. Like, my parents were hard. Maybe my mom's an immigrant, maybe that's what it is, she's Scottish, but like, my parents were tough. Like, my mom let me punch my brother in the face once, because he, like, pulled my backpack or something.

Joe Rogan 32:01 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 32:02 Like (laughs) , I remember, like, he, like, pulled my backpack. I was like, "Mom, he pulled my backpack. Can I just punch him?" She's like, "Once." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:07 That's hilarious.

Andrew Schulz 32:07 She just let me punch him, right? And it was like, for her, when she grew up, that's what brothers did.

Joe Rogan 32:13 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 32:14 And, like, people always do... You know, I know you have some guys come on the show and they talk about how, like, it's happening at the college level, like-

Joe Rogan 32:20 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 32:20 ... we're entitling these kids. And it's like-

Joe Rogan 32:22 Yep.

Andrew Schulz 32:22 ... no. It's happening in elementary school. It's when these kids... Well, I had my boy Marco point this out to me, both his parents are, uh, teachers in Rhode Island. He's like, "What happens is these f- these fucking kids complain about their teacher in school." Right?

Joe Rogan 32:36 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 32:37 "And when you and I were in school, our parents would go, 'Well yeah, sometimes your teacher don't like you, so figure it out.'"

Joe Rogan 32:42 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 32:42 And now these kids go, "W- well mom, dad, the teacher doesn't like me." "Well, well let's switch you out of this school."

Joe Rogan 32:47 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 32:47 "Let's switch your, your teacher. Let's get your teacher fired."

Joe Rogan 32:49 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 32:49 So they start thinking the world bends around them. Right?

Joe Rogan 32:54 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 32:54 And then, now this shit with the colleges, it's like, "I can't get into USC." And they say, "Oh, don't worry. We'll figure out how to get you-"

Joe Rogan 33:00 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 33:01 "... into USC."

Joe Rogan 33:02 That, that fucking college thing is nuts. But we'll t- we'll get to that.

Andrew Schulz 33:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:05 But I wanna know what do you think is the root of the softness? Like, what is the shift?

Andrew Schulz 33:10 Parents.

Joe Rogan 33:11 But why? What's the shift?

Andrew Schulz 33:12 Shi- I know exactly what it is.

Joe Rogan 33:13 Okay.

Andrew Schulz 33:14 Um, you know when, uh, power's taken, it's not given, it's taken. You have to take it. You have to rip it out of somebody's fucking hands, power.

Joe Rogan 33:25 Right.

Andrew Schulz 33:25 Right?

Joe Rogan 33:25 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 33:26 And after you take power out of someone's hands, that's the last thing you take. It's give. Right? If you have the right constitution. You have the right constitution for power. What have you done with your power? You've uplifted a comedy scene. You've, you do these shows where you host them at the Improv. Right? That's not for you. Right? That's for comedy. Okay? You're hosting shows at these different places. You can sell out arenas. But you're choosing to do shows in this city, I'm assuming because you understand the value of giving. You're operating with excess, in your heart.

Joe Rogan 33:57 There's a little bit of that, but honestly the shows are for me, um-

Andrew Schulz 34:00 To work out.

Joe Rogan 34:01 Yeah, to work out. But you-

Andrew Schulz 34:02 But you could do an hour.

Joe Rogan 34:03 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 34:03 You don't have to put other comics on it.

Joe Rogan 34:04 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 34:05 Right?

Joe Rogan 34:05 That's true. Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 34:05 You don't have to say, "Schultz, can you come and do the show tonight?" You know what I mean? Like...

Joe Rogan 34:08 At the Improv on Hollywood-

Andrew Schulz 34:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:09 ... on Melrose.

Andrew Schulz 34:09 Which is sold out. I already looked.

Joe Rogan 34:11 Sold out. Sorry.

Andrew Schulz 34:11 (laughs) I was about to try to help promote, and I was like-

Joe Rogan 34:13 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 34:13 ... "Does he need me to help?" But it's like, so, so what happens is if you have the right constitution for power, you take and then you provide for your people. You give back. Right?

Joe Rogan 34:22 It certainly helps.

Andrew Schulz 34:23 It helps you. Dude, people don't realize, like how helping is addictive.

Joe Rogan 34:27 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 34:28 That's... We can get to that in a, in a little bit. But like once you realize the value you get from giving, as long as it's the right person-

Joe Rogan 34:36 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 34:36 ... then you just can't wait-

Joe Rogan 34:38 Yeah, it's a trick-

Andrew Schulz 34:38 ... to fucking-

Joe Rogan 34:38 ... to think that you should keep it all to yourself because when you keep it all to yourself, you feel like shit.

Andrew Schulz 34:42 Yeah, you're a piece of shit.

Joe Rogan 34:43 Then you become that weird old miser that lives in the mansion on the top of the hill and no one can talk to him.

Andrew Schulz 34:48 And you're miserable.

Joe Rogan 34:49 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 34:49 And your life-

Joe Rogan 34:49 And you can't go anywhere.

Andrew Schulz 34:50 No. It sucks.

Joe Rogan 34:51 Yeah. And everybody looks at you like, "Oh, it's that guy who's got all that money. I gotta figure out how to get his money." Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 34:56 Who do you wanna be? You wanna be Ali?

Joe Rogan 34:58 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 34:58 Ali walks around any neighborhood he wants.

Joe Rogan 35:00 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 35:00 Well, and he's dead, but-

Joe Rogan 35:01 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 35:01 ... whenever, when he did.

Joe Rogan 35:02 When he did. Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 35:02 No security... Now he can knock anybody out. But at the same time if he just goes, "Hey guys, give me a second. I need a lot of-"

Joe Rogan 35:07 Even when he was older and he could barely walk, he would just go everywhere.

Andrew Schulz 35:10 Anywhere you want.

Joe Rogan 35:10 People loved him. Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 35:11 Because they recognize, "Man, we wanna follow, but we wanna follow the worthy, so we'll test worthiness."

Joe Rogan 35:18 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 35:18 You know what I'm saying? So what happen... Why these kids are so soft is the, the king takes power and then raises a bitch-ass son, because he never had to take shit.

Joe Rogan 35:28 Right.

Andrew Schulz 35:29 Right? And he doesn't want his son to go through what he went through. Right?

Joe Rogan 35:32 Right.

Andrew Schulz 35:32 He's like, "You know how hard it was to take this power? I'm, I got one foot." You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 35:36 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 35:36 "I lost a foot in a power struggle." And now his, his son is, everything's given to him. It's like the spoiled prince in every movie.

Joe Rogan 35:42 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 35:42 You hate that fucking prince. So I think the generation that's raising kids right now, spoiled princes. The generation before that, Vietnam.

Joe Rogan 35:49 Right.

Andrew Schulz 35:50 You know what I'm saying? Like they understood sacrifice, war.

Joe Rogan 35:53 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 35:53 They understood the investment in the country. And then the generation that came next was just handed shit.

Joe Rogan 36:00 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 36:01 "Hey, everything's good. We're not, oh, we're not going to w- oh, war is just handled over there. I don't gotta get drafted." And-

Joe Rogan 36:05 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 36:05 It's like, no, you... I almost think we should all be part of it, bro. It's like a regret of mine that I didn't do some sort of service, because-... it's like, how you complain at all about the country that you didn't put your life on the line for?

Joe Rogan 36:19 Mm-hmm. There's a lot of countries that have mandatory service-

Andrew Schulz 36:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:21 ... and they have extreme levels of patriotism. And, and-

Andrew Schulz 36:25 It's an investment.

Joe Rogan 36:25 Yeah. Like South Korea, for example, they took, uh, uh, Dong Young Kim on... Was it, uh... Yeah. No, who was it? Sang Ung-Yong, that's who it was.

Andrew Schulz 36:38 Right.

Joe Rogan 36:38 (clears throat) The Korean zombie. That's right, that's right. He took him out of his prime. And he had to do two years of service-

Andrew Schulz 36:45 Respect.

Joe Rogan 36:45 ... in the Korean army.

Andrew Schulz 36:46 David Robinson, basketball player, had to do that Navy time.

Joe Rogan 36:49 Really?

Andrew Schulz 36:49 I- I... Yo.

Joe Rogan 36:50 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 36:51 Like, you understand, 'cause we're so detached, and I don't hate on people for not realizing it, 'cause we are detached, that's what we do. Like little s- you know, some child slaves make the iPhone and, you know, we-

Joe Rogan 37:02 Right.

Andrew Schulz 37:02 ... we- we're like, I just go, "Uh-uh." You can only really be connected to what's in your world, direct world. I'm cool with... That's life. It is what it is. There's really no good or bad, things just are, you know what I mean? So it's like, it, that's something to get to, but it is what it is, right?

Joe Rogan 37:14 Well, they were trying to do an ethical phone. Remember that phone?

Andrew Schulz 37:16 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:16 What was that phone called again? They were, they were, they were putting together some ethical Android phone.

Andrew Schulz 37:24 Man, come on.

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 37:25 Fair Phone.

Joe Rogan 37:26 Fair Phone, yeah. It wasn't fair, nobody bought it. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 37:28 Fuck that. Shit was expensive. You know what I mean? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:31 (laughs) Well, I don't think it's more expensive.

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 37:34 They have a FairPhone 2 now.

Joe Rogan 37:35 They have a FairPhone 2? Pull that bitch up. Let's see what we got. Let's see if it can fuck with... So I'm trying to get off the Apple tit. I told you I got this Galaxy Note 9.

Andrew Schulz 37:42 You're gonna come back, bro.

Joe Rogan 37:43 Look how big that... Don't say that, bro.

Andrew Schulz 37:44 You're gonna come back, bro.

Joe Rogan 37:45 Look how beautiful that screen is. Look at this. Oh, swipe left to go in my apps.

Andrew Schulz 37:47 Man, but that shit is...

Joe Rogan 37:48 Look at everything.

Andrew Schulz 37:49 It's always freezing, the pictures all pixelated and shit.

Joe Rogan 37:51 No, that's not true, that's not true.

Andrew Schulz 37:52 Come on, bro.

Joe Rogan 37:52 I got a pen, this has a pen. "A modular phone that's built to last." What does that mean?

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 37:59 That you can, like, attach shit to it. But I don't know, like, here.

Joe Rogan 38:02 "A modular phone that's built to last."

Andrew Schulz 38:04 Oh, yeah.

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 38:04 There you go.

Andrew Schulz 38:05 So you could add little things.

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 38:07 Different cameras, different...

Joe Rogan 38:07 Oh, that's gonna break.

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 38:09 Definitely not one of those.

Joe Rogan 38:10 That can't be waterproof. It says, "Batteries"? Are those batteries?

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 38:13 Yeah, probably, yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:14 You can replace the battery?

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 38:15 Yeah. Yeah, bro.

Joe Rogan 38:16 That's ridiculous. Remember when we used to be able to replace batteries?

Andrew Schulz 38:18 Batteries? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 38:18 Used to pop out the back of your phone.

Andrew Schulz 38:20 Batteries, bro. Removable battery.

Joe Rogan 38:21 Yeah. I had a Samsung Galaxy, like, 7 or some shit, removable battery, Android 7. This motherfucker's got Android 9.

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 38:28 Ah.

Joe Rogan 38:29 You need to catch the fuck up.

Andrew Schulz 38:30 Nah, bro.

Joe Rogan 38:31 What else? "Fair materials." Look, there's a white lady in the front, how fair?

Andrew Schulz 38:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 38:36 Three Black guys who are working for her.

Andrew Schulz 38:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:38 What the fuck is fair about that picture? If you're gonna have fair materials-

Andrew Schulz 38:41 Yo.

Joe Rogan 38:41 ... how about you have white guys in their 50s working in a factory and not Chinese babies?

Andrew Schulz 38:47 (laughs) Yo.

Joe Rogan 38:48 Right? (laughs) What the fuck is this?

Andrew Schulz 38:50 We do, we do have to acknowledge though that, like-

Joe Rogan 38:52 (laughs) Do you know what I mean?

Andrew Schulz 38:53 Yo.

Joe Rogan 38:54 I mean, make it fair. Make all these people, all these people who wanna buy iPhones and you wanna have your iPhone built by some Asian slave.

Andrew Schulz 39:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:03 How about you work for a year in a factory?

Andrew Schulz 39:06 It's like the army.

Joe Rogan 39:07 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 39:07 You want an iPhone-

Joe Rogan 39:08 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 39:08 ... put the time in.

Joe Rogan 39:09 Right.

Andrew Schulz 39:09 But we should acknowledge that white women really kinda are superheroes in that way.

Joe Rogan 39:13 White women?

Andrew Schulz 39:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:14 How so?

Andrew Schulz 39:14 'Cause, like, they're the only people who care about the environment, the only people who care about animals, the only people who build wells in Africa. Like, they're really-

Joe Rogan 39:20 No. My friend Justin Wren builds wells in the Congo. He's a 6'3", 200 f-

Andrew Schulz 39:25 Tranny. (laughs) No, I'm just kidding.

Joe Rogan 39:28 (laughs) He's a u- he's a Bellator fucking top 10 heavyweight.

Andrew Schulz 39:31 (laughs) Ask him who's, who are the people helping him. It's Rebecca, Katy-

Joe Rogan 39:34 Well, no, no, no, no, man.

Andrew Schulz 39:35 Phyllis.

Joe Rogan 39:36 No, no, no.

Andrew Schulz 39:37 Phyllis might be too old.

Joe Rogan 39:37 He's got a lot of women that do work for him, but a lot of men that work for him too. There's these weird saint dudes-

Andrew Schulz 39:42 White women love this shit, bro.

Joe Rogan 39:43 ... at white women's.

Andrew Schulz 39:43 They love this shit.

Joe Rogan 39:43 Yeah, they do.

Andrew Schulz 39:43 They fucking... And it's, they're getting it hard right now 'cause I think they're tired of coming at white men, so they're looking for the next, you know. When the grease is boiling, you gotta throw someone in it.

Joe Rogan 39:50 Right. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 39:50 But, like, when you wanna talk about humanitarians-

Joe Rogan 39:54 Right.

Andrew Schulz 39:54 ... like, who gets fucked by more races than white women?

Joe Rogan 39:59 True.

Andrew Schulz 39:59 Like, this is really-

Joe Rogan 40:01 True. True. Except, who gets the short end of the stick there?

Andrew Schulz 40:06 Is that a penis size joke?

Joe Rogan 40:07 No, well, it could be.

Andrew Schulz 40:08 Asian women. No, I'm just joking. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:09 No, I'm saying Asian men.

Andrew Schulz 40:10 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:11 Asian men probably fuck the, the smallest percentage of different races.

Andrew Schulz 40:16 Right. Yes.

Joe Rogan 40:17 In America, at least.

Andrew Schulz 40:18 Yes.

Joe Rogan 40:18 I don't know how they rock in other countries.

Andrew Schulz 40:20 100%. Yeah, yeah, they do the... Yeah, I think they have, like, some, like, Tinder, they did some, like, Tinder study that showed that.

Joe Rogan 40:25 That is a weird thing.

Andrew Schulz 40:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:27 'Cause to Asian women, no problem at all, but to other ethnicities.

Andrew Schulz 40:31 It's weird that it's not made to size, right?

Joe Rogan 40:35 H- how so?

Andrew Schulz 40:35 Like, like, you would think that it's made to si- like LEGO.

Joe Rogan 40:38 Like little, tiny women would be into, uh-

Andrew Schulz 40:40 No, just like vagina would be, like-

Joe Rogan 40:42 Right.

Andrew Schulz 40:42 ... you know, a f- I don't- I've never f- I never thought that, like, Asian pussy was that much smaller than, like, Black pussy or-

Joe Rogan 40:50 Have you done a lot of work? Studied on this?

Andrew Schulz 40:50 I've done research, you know.

Joe Rogan 40:51 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 40:51 I have empirical evidence, you know?

Joe Rogan 40:53 (buzzing noise) (laughs) Yeah. Well, you know, it- it doesn't, doesn't make 100% sense.

Andrew Schulz 40:59 Okay.

Joe Rogan 40:59 But I've met girls that were tiny that you could not fuck hard enough.

Andrew Schulz 41:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:06 And, and they're like, "Okay."

Andrew Schulz 41:07 They just open up, yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:08 But not, not just that, it's just like they want it like that. They want, they want savage. They wanna get fucking smashed in a-

Andrew Schulz 41:15 Why do you think that is?

Joe Rogan 41:16 ... because I think they realized that they- they're tiny, they have small genes, so they wanna get savage genetics inside them so they have survivor children.

Andrew Schulz 41:24 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:24 I really believe that. (coughs) I think it only makes sense.

Andrew Schulz 41:28 Oh.

Joe Rogan 41:28 Some of the horniest girls I've ever dated in my life weigh about 104 pounds.

Andrew Schulz 41:32 Ugh. And these big Brianna Tartt chicks want it real soft?

Joe Rogan 41:34 No, they wanna fuck you up too.

Andrew Schulz 41:35 They want a nice beta male?

Joe Rogan 41:36 They wanna... Because they know that those other little girls are fucking giant dudes. (laughs) And they're gonna make a normal sized kid and they're gonna keep going.

Andrew Schulz 41:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:43 It's a never-ending battle for genetics.

Andrew Schulz 41:46 Dude, it really, it is fun.

Joe Rogan 41:47 Oh, it's 100%. It's a never-ending battle of genetics and if you deny it-

Andrew Schulz 41:50 So then why are these girls fucking these, like, beta dudes, man? Like-

Joe Rogan 41:53 They're not.

Andrew Schulz 41:54 That's the thing.

Joe Rogan 41:55 If they do, they do it for a little while, they barely fuck them, they always say they have headaches. Listen, I- I know a lot of beta dudes-

Andrew Schulz 42:00 Wait a minute, who has headaches? The dude has a headache?

Joe Rogan 42:02 The girl, the girl does. Like, "I can't. I have a headache."

Andrew Schulz 42:04 Oh, I- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:04 "I gotta go to sleep." Yeah. They don't wanna fuck the guys.

Andrew Schulz 42:08 Dude-

Joe Rogan 42:09 I had a friend of mine who was dating a guy like that.

Andrew Schulz 42:11 Right.

Joe Rogan 42:11 And she goes, "I really like him, I just do not wanna fuck him."

Andrew Schulz 42:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:15 I was like, "Wow."

Andrew Schulz 42:16 'Cause why would you?

Joe Rogan 42:16 I was like, "That is rough."

Andrew Schulz 42:18 Yeah, but, but why would you?

Joe Rogan 42:18 And I'm like, "What are you gonna do?" (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 42:20 Just don't fuck them. Dude, it's-

Joe Rogan 42:22 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 42:22 Dude, it's insane, man. It's like, I see this all the time. Like, these, like, hardcore, perceivably hardcore feminist chicks-

Joe Rogan 42:28 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 42:29 ... you know, they'll hear my comedy-

Joe Rogan 42:31 Uh-huh.

Andrew Schulz 42:31 ... which could be the opposite of that-

Joe Rogan 42:33 Right.

Andrew Schulz 42:34 ... and they're in the DMs-

Joe Rogan 42:35 Right.

Andrew Schulz 42:36 ... saying, "I don't know why I'm here."

Joe Rogan 42:38 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 42:38 I swear to God. I swear to God, bro.

Joe Rogan 42:42 Like it's a trap house. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 42:43 Exactly. It's like, dude, what is happening?

Joe Rogan 42:45 Woo!

Andrew Schulz 42:46 It's like...

Joe Rogan 42:47 Uh, c- because I think feminism in general is a direct result of a failure by men to be fair and by a failure by men to be actual men-

Andrew Schulz 42:58 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 42:58 ... and to raise actual men who treat everybody with respect. The- the- p- when men are abusing women, those men are bullies. They're- they're weak men. The kind of man that would do that to a woman, that would, like, physically abuse a woman, that's a weak man.

Andrew Schulz 43:13 Right, right.

Joe Rogan 43:14 That's the type of man that would-

Andrew Schulz 43:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:15 ... beat up a smaller man or take-

Andrew Schulz 43:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:17 ... someone from someone with force.

Andrew Schulz 43:18 He's insecure, he needs to feel-

Joe Rogan 43:19 It's-

Andrew Schulz 43:19 ... powerful.

Joe Rogan 43:20 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 43:20 He's a bitch. Yeah, he's a bitch, yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:21 Right?

Andrew Schulz 43:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:21 The- the antidote for that is to be a strong man.

Andrew Schulz 43:25 Right.

Joe Rogan 43:25 Like, the, one of the things I've been telling people, like, this is how you fix bullying in school.

Andrew Schulz 43:29 Okay.

Joe Rogan 43:29 Teach them how to fight. Not the bullies. I mean, not just the- not just the victims, but the bullies themselves.

Andrew Schulz 43:35 Ah.

Joe Rogan 43:35 Teach everyone how to fight.

Andrew Schulz 43:36 When they feel confidence that they can-

Joe Rogan 43:38 Yeah, they don't fight.

Andrew Schulz 43:38 ... defend themselves, they don't have to-

Joe Rogan 43:39 You know some nicest fucking people in the world?

Andrew Schulz 43:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:41 Martial artists.

Andrew Schulz 43:43 You're right.

Joe Rogan 43:43 You go and go to martial arts gyms, go to a-

Andrew Schulz 43:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:45 ... jujitsu gym, I'll take you. They are the fucking nicest people, everybody's-

Andrew Schulz 43:48 Yeah, 'cause they know.

Joe Rogan 43:48 ... hugging everybody and friendly-

Andrew Schulz 43:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:50 ... and they're gonna choke each other half to death in about-

Andrew Schulz 43:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:53 ... five minutes. And before that, they're all fun, happy, playful.

Andrew Schulz 43:57 Yes.

Joe Rogan 43:57 They're- they're so secure, and outside of there, they're so secure and relaxed. They're a different typ- type of person. Obviously not all of them. I mean, there's, people are weird.

Andrew Schulz 44:05 For the most part, yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:06 We- we vary wildly, right? But almost always, to a human, the mean ones, whether it's mean women or mean wen- men-

Andrew Schulz 44:14 Wildly insecure.

Joe Rogan 44:14 ... are weak.

Andrew Schulz 44:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:15 They're weak.

Andrew Schulz 44:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:16 The mean women, women will tell you this-

Andrew Schulz 44:18 Yes.

Joe Rogan 44:19 ... if they work at an office-

Andrew Schulz 44:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:20 ... and they've got a female boss that's a cunt-

Andrew Schulz 44:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:22 ... that is one of the worst fucking... 'Cause you can't even fuck her.

Andrew Schulz 44:26 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 44:26 There's nothing you can do. Nothing you could do to make that bitch happy. She wants to take from you, she wants to squeeze your blood. At least if you're cute and your boss is disgusting and he's a fucking asshole, you could flirt with him a little bit and you could, like, maybe get him to like you more.

Andrew Schulz 44:42 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:43 Don't do it.

Andrew Schulz 44:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:44 Obviously don't do that.

Andrew Schulz 44:45 (laughs) But with a female boss, you have to have a personality.

Joe Rogan 44:47 You can't do shit.

Andrew Schulz 44:48 Shocking.

Joe Rogan 44:49 With a female boss, not even that, a lot of women don't like women.

Andrew Schulz 44:53 Right.

Joe Rogan 44:54 Uh, one of the things that I love more than anything-

Andrew Schulz 44:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:56 ... is when I talk to women and they'll do this thing where they look around to make sure no one's looking, no one's around, and they'll go, "Look, I would never say this publicly, but some bitches are fucking crazy."

Andrew Schulz 45:06 (laughs) That's what we do with, like, racist shit.

Joe Rogan 45:09 They're fucking crazy. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 45:10 Didn't Burr have that bit about, like-

Joe Rogan 45:11 Yes, yes, yes.

Andrew Schulz 45:12 ... where you look around and then you slide in, "The thing about these..." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 45:15 (laughs) Yeah. Yes. Well, this, women feel like i- it's, they've got momentum in this little war of ideas-

Andrew Schulz 45:23 Right.

Joe Rogan 45:23 ... with the Me Too movement-

Andrew Schulz 45:24 Right.

Joe Rogan 45:24 ... and the Bill Cosby getting arrested and R-

Andrew Schulz 45:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:26 ... Kelly getting arrested and Harvey Weinstein. C- it's just, I, in my opinion, and I bet you think this too, these are good things.

Andrew Schulz 45:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:33 When shitty men get put away or they get arrested-

Andrew Schulz 45:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:37 ... for abusing people-

Andrew Schulz 45:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:38 ... whether it's they're physically abusing men or physically abusing women, it's always good. You shouldn't be physically abusing people.

Andrew Schulz 45:45 Yeah, get them out of here.

Joe Rogan 45:46 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 45:46 We used to beat those guys up.

Joe Rogan 45:47 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 45:47 I mean, this is handled in the community when we were younger, teenagers. "Hey, blah, blah, blah, you know, was rough with this, th- whatever." Who was rough?

Joe Rogan 45:54 Right.

Andrew Schulz 45:54 And we went over that.

Joe Rogan 45:55 Can you imagine if you were married and Harvey Weinstein tried to fuck your wife and she went in on an audition and you knew that there was all these-

Andrew Schulz 46:01 It's over.

Joe Rogan 46:01 ... security guards and all these fucking levels before you got to him, and your wife got into that level and he was treating her like shit and being mean to her and telling her, "If you want to work in this town, you gotta suck this little fat dick."

Andrew Schulz 46:14 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 46:14 You'd be very-

Andrew Schulz 46:15 It's over.

Joe Rogan 46:16 ... very, very, very-

Andrew Schulz 46:17 It's over.

Joe Rogan 46:17 ... angry, very-

Andrew Schulz 46:18 Yeah, I'm shocked. Like, someone saw... Didn't Brad Pitt try to step-

Joe Rogan 46:20 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 46:20 ... to him or something like that?

Joe Rogan 46:21 He did step to him, apparently.

Andrew Schulz 46:22 And did he swing on him?

Joe Rogan 46:23 I don't know what he did. I think he threatened him.

Andrew Schulz 46:24 'Cause you got to, right? Like, well, that's the other thing that's fucked up about this, is, like, there's gonna be Weinsteins.

Joe Rogan 46:31 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 46:31 Like, these people are gonna exist.

Joe Rogan 46:33 Well, listen, man, they still exist.

Andrew Schulz 46:34 They st- yeah, they still do.

Joe Rogan 46:35 I was hearing about one last night.

Andrew Schulz 46:36 Who?

Joe Rogan 46:36 Someone was tell- I can't tell you.

Andrew Schulz 46:38 Comic?

Joe Rogan 46:38 'Cause I don't... Uh, n- uh, wait, he's a t- a television personality who's apparently c- a closeted homosexual.

Andrew Schulz 46:44 Oh, and he's out there-

Joe Rogan 46:45 Yeah, and he's out there, like-

Andrew Schulz 46:46 ... with dudes.

Joe Rogan 46:47 Y- yeah, just-

Andrew Schulz 46:48 That's gotta be relentless.

Joe Rogan 46:49 ... going hard.

Andrew Schulz 46:49 Fucking him more?

Joe Rogan 46:50 Yeah, I don't know, he's trying.

Andrew Schulz 46:52 Really?

Joe Rogan 46:52 He's trying and making him uncomfortable.

Andrew Schulz 46:54 Really?

Joe Rogan 46:54 Really.

Andrew Schulz 46:55 How- how well known?

Joe Rogan 46:56 I don't know.

Andrew Schulz 46:57 Bullshit (laughs) .

Joe Rogan 46:59 We'll talk later, we'll talk later. But what I'm saying is-

Narrator 47:01 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:02 ... they exist.

Andrew Schulz 47:02 You wanna tell me something, man.

Joe Rogan 47:05 They exist.

Narrator 47:05 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 47:05 We gotta go talk to him afterwards.

Joe Rogan 47:07 There's a lot of, there's crazy fuckers out there-

Andrew Schulz 47:08 There is.

Joe Rogan 47:09 ... that are still rolling it old school.

Andrew Schulz 47:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:11 They don't wanna get caught.

Andrew Schulz 47:12 Okay.

Joe Rogan 47:12 Gwyneth Paltrow reviews Brad Pitt threatening to kill Harvey Weinstein.

Andrew Schulz 47:14 Yeah, but you gotta swing on him.

Joe Rogan 47:16 That's my man.

Narrator 47:16 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 47:16 But you gotta swing on him, bro. You gotta leave some marks.

Joe Rogan 47:18 I believe it. I believe it.

Andrew Schulz 47:19 So...

Joe Rogan 47:20 Well, it depends on what Harvey did versus w- I mean, if he grabbed her or did anything to her physically-

Andrew Schulz 47:25 I said...

Joe Rogan 47:25 ... then you gotta swing on him. But if he just said something creepy and you tell him, "I will-"

Andrew Schulz 47:29 Okay, then we have words. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:30 "Take your fucking life."

Andrew Schulz 47:31 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:32 "I'll take your life."

Andrew Schulz 47:33 Yeah. Well, the, I think the issue with these things is, like, we know we're gonna have Weinsteins, but the people that protected Weinstein-

Joe Rogan 47:41 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 47:41 ... like, the second you complain about a guy for, you know, groping or doing something crazy, right?

Joe Rogan 47:46 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 47:47 You, that woman is doing exactly what she's supposed to do.

Joe Rogan 47:50 Yeah.

Narrator 47:50 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 47:50 Right? She experienced some, you know, sexual assault and she's telling.

Joe Rogan 47:53 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 47:53 Right? Now, if you silence her and shut her up, that's where the system falls apart.

Joe Rogan 47:57 Right, right, right.

Andrew Schulz 47:58 So whoever is protecting him throughout-

Joe Rogan 47:59 Yep.

Andrew Schulz 48:00 ... he gotta, they gotta go too.

Joe Rogan 48:01 Right.

Andrew Schulz 48:01 Because she, that woman did exactly what she was supposed to do.

Joe Rogan 48:05 Right, right, right.

Andrew Schulz 48:05 Right? There's gonna be Weinsteins throughout life, unfortunately.

Joe Rogan 48:08 That's the real question, what about the support staff?

Andrew Schulz 48:10 They all, you know, all them-

Joe Rogan 48:11 How many people?

Andrew Schulz 48:12 Son, all them are almost... They're not worse 'cause they're not doing it, but they're so bad because they stripped the person who was assaulted from...... like, not only equality, but like they stripped her from, from life in a way, like-

Joe Rogan 48:27 Right.

Andrew Schulz 48:27 ... they, they made that person go, "Oh, shit. Life isn't fair and I don't have a shot."

Joe Rogan 48:33 Do you know the expression-

Andrew Schulz 48:35 Fuck.

Joe Rogan 48:35 ... diffusion of responsibility? It's, it comes when there's large groups of people that watch something.

Andrew Schulz 48:39 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:39 They feel like someone's gonna step in.

Andrew Schulz 48:41 It's like that lady, uh, Genovese or something, remember, there was some woman who was getting raped in Queens and she was screaming for like 40 minutes and there was all these neighbors around like, "Yeah, I heard it but I thought Ted was on it."

Joe Rogan 48:52 Oh, Jesus.

Andrew Schulz 48:53 You didn't hear about this?

Joe Rogan 48:54 No.

Andrew Schulz 48:54 I think Katie Genovese or some shit.

Joe Rogan 48:56 Mm.

Andrew Schulz 48:56 It's an old story-

Joe Rogan 48:57 Well, it makes sense.

Andrew Schulz 48:57 ... but everybody's like, "Oh, they'll get it."

Joe Rogan 48:59 Because the s-

Andrew Schulz 48:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:59 It's the same kind of thing.

Andrew Schulz 49:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:00 It's like, well, it's just how corporations work. So if you're working for a corporation, the corporation's dumping pollutants into the river, you know, you feel like, "Well, it's not my responsibility, I just work here in accounting."

Andrew Schulz 49:11 Right, right.

Joe Rogan 49:12 You know? Like, "Somebody else is gonna handle this."

Andrew Schulz 49:14 Right, right.

Joe Rogan 49:15 You know, this is... And I think when you, if you were working in like, the Weinstein Company, and you knew Harvey was out there slinging dick, first of all, in w- in their defense, you probably didn't know the specifics, right? Because it's like, "Oh, Harvey's a dog. He's always out there trying to fuck."

Andrew Schulz 49:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:31 Well, that's sort of normal.

Andrew Schulz 49:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:33 Like, a lot, like... People have to understand this. Why does a guy like that get rich? Why does he get rich? Is he like some patron of the arts who loves creating?

Andrew Schulz 49:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:44 Maybe there's a little bit.

Andrew Schulz 49:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:45 Maybe he likes power.

Andrew Schulz 49:47 Yes.

Joe Rogan 49:47 And if you like power, why do you like that power? What are you getting outta that power?

Andrew Schulz 49:50 Right.

Joe Rogan 49:50 Once you have a Ferrari, once you have a Mercedes, once you have a mansion, what are you getting? You're getting pussy.

Andrew Schulz 49:56 Pussy, baby. Pussy.

Joe Rogan 49:57 That's what you're getting.

Andrew Schulz 49:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:58 You're getting pussy, so-

Andrew Schulz 49:59 And it's not even about the pussy.

Joe Rogan 50:00 Right.

Andrew Schulz 50:00 It's about power.

Joe Rogan 50:02 Right? It's about power. Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 50:03 So much of this shit... Like, even these pedophiles, I don't even believe anybody's attracted to kids.

Joe Rogan 50:07 Well, they definitely are.

Andrew Schulz 50:08 I don't believe it. I believe they're attracted to power and they're so wildly insecure that they need to be looked at like a god. And children, when they look at you, somebody that they admire, someone they truly look up to, etc., they can look at you in that godlike state. And so I don't think it's a physical thing. Like I was watching that Abducted in Plain Sight.

Joe Rogan 50:28 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 50:29 He, he gets whacked off by the dad, right?

Joe Rogan 50:33 What?

Andrew Schulz 50:33 You didn't see this Abducted in Plain Sight, bro?

Joe Rogan 50:35 No. Oh my God, man.

Andrew Schulz 50:36 Bro, this guy, this, this pedophile destroys a whole family, bro.

Joe Rogan 50:38 Oh, Jesus.

Andrew Schulz 50:39 He, he, to get to the daughter, he fucks the mom and dad.

Joe Rogan 50:44 Who, what is this?

Andrew Schulz 50:44 This is insane.

Joe Rogan 50:46 Is this on Netflix?

Andrew Schulz 50:47 This is on Netflix.

Joe Rogan 50:47 Oh.

Andrew Schulz 50:48 Yes. You've never... And they censor comedy.

Joe Rogan 50:50 I can't.

Andrew Schulz 50:50 Can you imagine that? Imagine jokes...

Joe Rogan 50:52 Well, they don't censor comedy though.

Andrew Schulz 50:54 Who knows?

Joe Rogan 50:54 They, they don't.

Andrew Schulz 50:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:55 They haven't censored mine.

Andrew Schulz 50:56 Not n- y- you know what I'm saying. There, there might be but um...

Joe Rogan 50:59 But I know what you're saying.

Andrew Schulz 50:59 But it's like, and we- we're the bad guys essentially. But like, my point is-

Joe Rogan 51:03 That is a crazy story.

Andrew Schulz 51:04 It's, there's the dynamical power, like, like people say the Catholic Church makes these people pedophilia, uh, pedophiles. No. They have that thirst for power and they're going, "Who in my community has that amazing power where they're looking at him as this godlike figure?" "Oh, it was the priest at our Catholic church."

Joe Rogan 51:23 That sounds like a, like an evil choice. Let me give you an alternative perspective-

Andrew Schulz 51:27 Okay.

Joe Rogan 51:27 ... from psychologists.

Andrew Schulz 51:28 Okay.

Joe Rogan 51:28 There's a thing called imprinting that happens with young men in particular sexually. It happens with young women as well, but one of the things that can happen is young men can be, uh, sexually molested by other men when they're young and they develop this imprinting.

Andrew Schulz 51:44 Right.

Joe Rogan 51:44 The, the vast majority of people who are abusers were abused themselves.

Andrew Schulz 51:49 Right.

Joe Rogan 51:49 And there's some horrible hijacking of the psychology of the person-

Andrew Schulz 51:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:55 ... when you're a six year old boy and some grown man has his cock in your ass.

Andrew Schulz 51:59 (laughs) Right.

Joe Rogan 51:59 There's, there's something about that, that it fucks with their head, especially if it happens a lot and it ha-

Andrew Schulz 52:04 Right.

Joe Rogan 52:04 ... it becomes a part of your life and the guy's nice to you as well and buys you things-

Andrew Schulz 52:09 That's the fucked up thing.

Joe Rogan 52:09 ... and does things for you. And then you get older and you, for whatever reason, perpetrate this same horror on other kids.

Andrew Schulz 52:17 But why?

Joe Rogan 52:17 This is something that happens.

Andrew Schulz 52:19 What is-

Joe Rogan 52:19 I don't know.

Andrew Schulz 52:20 What I think it's maybe, maybe it's a combination of both, right? Maybe you have that imprinting, right? And then it creates this massive void that you need filled. Like, I think so much of everything that we do, everything that people do is about filling the void. And what is it that you need the void filled with-

Joe Rogan 52:37 Right.

Andrew Schulz 52:37 ... dictates of- how often if you're evil, sometimes if you're good-

Joe Rogan 52:41 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 52:41 ... there are some people that are addicted to working out, right?

Joe Rogan 52:44 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 52:44 There's a void there they need it filled.

Joe Rogan 52:45 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 52:45 Some people addicted to eating. Those are the same addiction essentially, but one is a lot better to have than the other.

Joe Rogan 52:54 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 52:54 You know? It's like even with, I mean there's, even with Kanye, right? Like, I see Kanye as like this guy who's just wildly insecure and he's trying to justify his coolness constantly by taking things that are not cool at all and making them cool within a community, within his community, right? So it's like everything Kanye does, like down to, like it started with like the WASP culture. I'm gonna take like preppy New England, you know, polos that are pink and shit and I'm gonna make that cool. Now, before, the hip hop community, I mean I grew up in New York, we were like, "Yo, that's some gay shit, bro. What the fuck is that?" Now Kanye wears this like, "Nah, you gotta look fly in this, these pink WASPy things and my khakis," whatever. Then he takes grunge culture, right? This fuck, have you seen the-

Joe Rogan 53:38 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 53:39 ... right? The ripped sweaters and all that-

Joe Rogan 53:40 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 53:40 ... kind of shit? That's Seattle nirvana shit.

Joe Rogan 53:42 Right.

Andrew Schulz 53:42 But he's like, "Yo, I bet I'm so cool I can make it cool." Right? Then he takes dad sneakers. "I'm so cool I could... Yo, you think my community loves cool sneakers? I'ma make dad sneakers cool." And then what is the most uncool thing to his community?

Joe Rogan 53:57 What? Trump. Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 53:59 And what does he try to make cool? It's selfish, is all about him.

Joe Rogan 54:05 No. Interesting.

Andrew Schulz 54:05 All he cares is about proving that he's that dude and he takes the most uncool thing and puts it on his head and he's like, "Yo, I'm gonna make MAGA cool." And that's when people were like, at least his community was like, "Nah, we not gonna, we not gonna play with that shit."

Joe Rogan 54:20 You know what I think? I think, uh, you know how like, you have something that's supposed to take like eight volts-... you have, like, a charger-

Andrew Schulz 54:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:27 ... supposed to take, like, eight volts.

Andrew Schulz 54:27 Like, when you go to Europe and you plug your shit in?

Joe Rogan 54:29 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 54:29 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:29 Right. Well, like, when you plug something into the wall, like, we have alternating current. Like, you could have something that takes way more amperage.

Andrew Schulz 54:36 Right.

Joe Rogan 54:37 I think Kanye has the wrong plug to the universe, and in a, in a good way.

Andrew Schulz 54:43 Okay.

Joe Rogan 54:43 Where that motherfucker's getting like 100 volts all the time.

Andrew Schulz 54:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:47 So he wants to d-... Have you ever talked to him?

Andrew Schulz 54:49 No.

Joe Rogan 54:50 I talked to him on the phone, and it was a stream of consciousness-

Andrew Schulz 54:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:53 ... that was so intense. I was like, "Okay, now I get it." I kinda got... We had a long conversation. He's a very nice guy.

Andrew Schulz 54:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:59 We had a long conversation, for like 15, 20 minutes on the phone, which is a long conversation these days on the phone.

Andrew Schulz 55:05 Yeah. (laughs) Who the fuck talks on the phone anymore?

Joe Rogan 55:07 (laughs) He does.

Andrew Schulz 55:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:08 But-

Andrew Schulz 55:08 You're e- you're inside-

Joe Rogan 55:09 ... I think he's getting 100 volts, bro.

Andrew Schulz 55:11 Okay.

Joe Rogan 55:12 I think he's got design going through his head-

Andrew Schulz 55:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:15 ... and new song lyrics, and new fashion, and all this sh-... And I think he's just catching whatever he can-

Andrew Schulz 55:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:22 ... and holding onto it, and wading through the waves.

Andrew Schulz 55:25 To fill the-

Joe Rogan 55:25 Yeah. But I don't know.

Andrew Schulz 55:26 Joe, to fill.

Joe Rogan 55:27 There's a little bit of that, but, uh, uh, with him, it's almost like affirming that he's okay.

Andrew Schulz 55:32 Affirm-

Joe Rogan 55:32 Because he's so much different than everybody else. Like Elon Musk-

Andrew Schulz 55:35 Affirmation.

Joe Rogan 55:35 ... like a lot of other people.

Andrew Schulz 55:37 Sure.

Joe Rogan 55:37 He's p-... What's up?

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 55:38 I was gonna say, did, did, the ca-... When he used the Confederate flag, do you know about his statements on that? He, he said that, like, he, he used this in a quote.

Joe Rogan 55:46 What does it say? Oh, "React how you want. Any energy is good energy. The Confederate flag represented slavery in a way that's my abstract take on what I know about it, right? So I wrote this song, New Slaves, took the Confederate flag and made it my flag. It's my flag now. What are you gonna do?" (laughs) Now what are you gonna do?

Andrew Schulz 56:04 Right? It's-

Joe Rogan 56:04 Well, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 56:04 ... how can I take my equity and see if I'm so dope?

Joe Rogan 56:07 But that's also his recognition that you can take something like the N-word and use it as a positive. You could do anything.

Andrew Schulz 56:16 Sure.

Joe Rogan 56:16 I mean, look, if, if Black people really decide... I used to do this bit.

Andrew Schulz 56:20 Okay, go.

Joe Rogan 56:21 I used to do this bit about... Uh, do you remember when the fucking Duck Dynasty guy was... He was t- talking a lot of shit about gay people? He was like, "I don't understand it. I don't understand."

Andrew Schulz 56:31 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:31 And I was like, "Look, I don't understand yellow cars."

Andrew Schulz 56:34 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 56:34 I go, "What the fuck is this shit?"

Andrew Schulz 56:35 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:35 "If you understand it-"

Andrew Schulz 56:36 (laughs) Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:36 "... why are you wasting all your time?"

Andrew Schulz 56:38 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:38 "I go, you better be nice." Because I go, "If you keep fucking with gay people, they're gonna do something, and they're gonna do something, and you're not gonna be able to take it back." Like, what if gay people decided to take over camo? And the bit was like, "Look what they did to the rainbow."

Andrew Schulz 56:51 Yo.

Joe Rogan 56:51 I go, "They fucking own the rainbow."

Andrew Schulz 56:54 Yo.

Joe Rogan 56:54 I go, "You can't wear a rainbow shirt anymore." Everybody's like, "Bah. There used to be leprechauns and pots of gold. Now it's dudes butt fucking."

Andrew Schulz 57:03 Bro. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:04 I go, "All they would have to do is start off every gay porn in a duck blind."

Andrew Schulz 57:09 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:09 It's two dudes, two dudes in camo.

Andrew Schulz 57:12 Duck Dynasty. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:13 And you get the gayest black guy in the world-

Andrew Schulz 57:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:17 ... in camo. He's like, "Something about duck hunting make me horny."

Andrew Schulz 57:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:20 And some dude just drops in out of nowhere and pulls his camo down, starts sucking his dick.

Andrew Schulz 57:25 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:25 If they just had all porno in camo-

Andrew Schulz 57:28 That's it.

Joe Rogan 57:28 ... it would turn camo into a gay thing. And if Black people just s-... just went whole hog on the Confederate flag... Look at them, they got camo wallpaper, son.

Andrew Schulz 57:37 Bro, absolutely.

Joe Rogan 57:38 That's like some Annie Leibovitz shit, though. That's like some Vanity Fair cover nonsense.

Andrew Schulz 57:42 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:43 You know, that's like some organized shoot.

Andrew Schulz 57:45 Very meta.

Joe Rogan 57:45 Those are weird.

Andrew Schulz 57:46 They know what they're doing, though. These guys are smart. They're playing dumb.

Joe Rogan 57:48 By the way, that's a shit pattern. That's a bad camo pattern.

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 57:51 It's called ducks.

Andrew Schulz 57:52 Ah, it's made out of the ducks.

Joe Rogan 57:53 Is it ducks? Oh, okay.

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 57:54 Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan 57:54 Maybe it's theirs. It might be their pattern.

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 57:55 Oh, I think so.

Andrew Schulz 57:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:56 I bet it is. Well, in that case...

Andrew Schulz 57:57 If you're in a swamp, it's like... I don't know. You know?

Joe Rogan 58:00 Damn.

Andrew Schulz 58:00 The gay shit is like... Y- you know, it's just... It's not the climate for it, I feel.

Joe Rogan 58:05 Yo, it could be.

Andrew Schulz 58:06 W-

Joe Rogan 58:06 Don't you remember Deliverance?

Andrew Schulz 58:08 Yeah, but it's like-

Joe Rogan 58:08 Squeal Like a Pig?

Andrew Schulz 58:09 Yes.

Joe Rogan 58:09 Remember that?

Andrew Schulz 58:10 Yeah, but that was, that was rape.

Joe Rogan 58:12 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gay rape, though.

Andrew Schulz 58:14 (laughs) That was gay rape.

Joe Rogan 58:14 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 58:14 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was... (laughs) Everybody who says that-

Joe Rogan 58:17 It's not gay if it's rape, bro.

Andrew Schulz 58:18 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:18 Rape is not sex, it's about power. Well, then they didn't do it right.

Andrew Schulz 58:21 (laughs) They also didn't get raped. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:23 Yeah, like what is this sh-...

Andrew Schulz 58:24 Someone's gonna fuck you.

Joe Rogan 58:25 A person getting raped is like, "This feels like sex."

Andrew Schulz 58:28 Yeah, it's definitely about power. (laughs)

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 58:29 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 58:29 I mean, power's a part of it, for sure, but that guy's gonna fuck you, man.

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 58:32 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 58:32 If you're getting fucked, like, this ain't sex, bro, just so we're clear.

Joe Rogan 58:34 Bro, that guy is fucking you. This is about sex and power.

Andrew Schulz 58:38 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:38 I get it, you're not gay. But it still sucks.

Andrew Schulz 58:40 People want it, man. That's the thing.

Joe Rogan 58:42 Well-

Andrew Schulz 58:42 I don't know. I think the Kanye thing, like...

Joe Rogan 58:45 He's just a guy who thinks way different, like for whatever reasons, the connections. That's one of the reasons why I think this Kim Kardashian relationship works so well.

Andrew Schulz 58:53 Okay.

Joe Rogan 58:53 It's 'cause like, I bet she just handles normal regular stuff, and he could just be Kanye. You know what I mean?

Andrew Schulz 59:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:02 Like, it seems like-

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 59:03 Does he think that different, bro?

Joe Rogan 59:05 ... they're... People bounce... Yes.

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 59:06 How different, bro?

Joe Rogan 59:07 Yes. Def- different.

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 59:08 How? Like-

Joe Rogan 59:09 Different.

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 59:09 ... I d-... You tell me.

Joe Rogan 59:10 Like, he-

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 59:10 Convince me, 'cause the music is phenomenal. Outside of that...

Joe Rogan 59:14 Okay, it's real simple.

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 59:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:15 Have you ever been locked up in a mental institution?

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 59:17 No.

Joe Rogan 59:18 He has.

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 59:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:19 They don't just lock you up, bro. They never locked me up.

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 59:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:22 You know, my, my wife never... I never came home, my wife, uh, has some fucking two gorillas that are in, uh, th- those, uh, lab suits.

Andrew Schulz 59:28 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:29 They're staring at me. I'm like, "What's with the big guys?"

Andrew Schulz 59:30 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:31 Like, uh-oh, these big guys are gonna take you to a nice hospital. Like, "Sir, we'd like to handle this quietly." What?

Andrew Schulz 59:36 (laughs) Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:36 The fuck? I'm not going in some hospital.

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 59:39 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:39 You know? (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 59:40 Bust out the leg kicks, Joe.

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 59:42 You don't just-

Joe Rogan 59:42 (laughs)

Guest (unidentified friend/producer) 59:42 You don't just go to the mental institute, bro. They fucking... They Velcro you.

Andrew Schulz 59:47 But the mental institution doesn't mean that you're genius. There's a lot of crazy people-

Joe Rogan 59:51 Listen-

Andrew Schulz 59:51 ... who are just crazy.

Joe Rogan 59:52 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, he's definitely crazy.

Andrew Schulz 59:54 Sure. I'll give you that.

Joe Rogan 59:54 But, but he's also... But he's brilliant too. See, the work that comes out of that crazy is genius work, right? So what is it about him that allows him to be so prolific as an artist? Do you ever notice how prolific he is?

Andrew Schulz 1:00:08 Yes.

Joe Rogan 1:00:08 The guy's constantly working-

Andrew Schulz 1:00:09 At music.

Joe Rogan 1:00:09 Constantly banging out songs. Con-... And there... There's... He doesn't have bad albums.

Andrew Schulz 1:00:14 No, he's, he is phenomenal at music.

Joe Rogan 1:00:16 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:00:17 Without a doubt, phenomenal at music.

Joe Rogan 1:00:18 Right. But this is all from this energy that's inside of him. He figures out how to channel that energy and put it in good ways. But occasionally, like...

Andrew Schulz 1:00:25 Joe Rogan is that crazy?

Joe Rogan 1:00:25 ... it's not also, it's also not a coincidence, it's not a coincidence-

Andrew Schulz 1:00:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:29 ... that when Kanye was on stage, I think it was in San Jose-

Andrew Schulz 1:00:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:33 ... and he said that he didn't vote, but if he was gonna vote, he would've voted for Trump. And the crowd went crazy-

Andrew Schulz 1:00:38 He did.

Joe Rogan 1:00:38 ... and they booed the shit out of him. And then he canceled his tour, and then he went to a dement- mental health institute.

Andrew Schulz 1:00:43 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:00:43 All that shit happened together because he felt the pain of this. Then his response to that was to double down. His response to that was to attribute qualities to Trump that he doesn't even re- really have.

Andrew Schulz 1:00:54 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:00:55 And so Trump, in his, so- in a lot of ways, very wise the way he handles things socially. He let Kanye come into the White House-

Andrew Schulz 1:01:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:04 ... wear that MAGA hat, and just rant up a storm.

Andrew Schulz 1:01:06 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:06 So, so Kanye could define who Trump was. He could define what loving Trump meant.

Andrew Schulz 1:01:11 Sure.

Joe Rogan 1:01:11 He could define why Black people should, uh, should embrace Trump.

Andrew Schulz 1:01:14 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:01:14 He could define all this in his head to sort of justify w- what went wrong with him.

Andrew Schulz 1:01:19 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:01:19 And then Trump just sits there and goes like this and lets him talk. And then he leaves and Trump goes, "What the fuck was that about?"

Andrew Schulz 1:01:25 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:25 And he gets on the phone, calls his bitches, orders a pizza, gets his dick sucked. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 1:01:30 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01:30 And he just, and this, this shit right here. That's what this is. Now, look at that white lady with her arms crossed in the background-

Jamie Vernon 1:01:36 Like, what is happening?

Joe Rogan 1:01:36 ... like what in the fuck-

Jamie Vernon 1:01:37 I need to make a well.

Joe Rogan 1:01:38 ... the lady with her hand on the clipboard.

Jamie Vernon 1:01:38 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01:38 Like what the fuck am I watching? Look at her face.

Jamie Vernon 1:01:41 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01:41 Look at (laughs) , the blonde chick right there in the center. Look at her face. She's like-

Jamie Vernon 1:01:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:45 ... "Okay, what?"

Jamie Vernon 1:01:46 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01:46 That's, her face says, "Okay, what?" And Kanye's, like, showing Donald Trump his phone. K- Donald Trump's got his lips pursed. "Hm, phone. Hm, amazing."

Jamie Vernon 1:01:56 Look at Kushner.

Joe Rogan 1:01:57 "Show me some lyrics."

Andrew Schulz 1:01:58 Look at the devious smile on Kushner's face right there, dude.

Joe Rogan 1:02:01 All of them.

Andrew Schulz 1:02:01 Look at that shit. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:01 And that, but how about that dude? How about the Black dude sitting there like, "I can't believe I have to listen to this shit."

Andrew Schulz 1:02:08 (laughs) Look at that dude's face. He's like, "What in the fuck do I do when I get fired from here?"

Jamie Vernon 1:02:14 Oh. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:14 'Cause I know it's coming. I know it's coming.

Andrew Schulz 1:02:16 Oh, God.

Joe Rogan 1:02:17 I know it ain't... How about the dude in the back-

Andrew Schulz 1:02:19 Dude-

Joe Rogan 1:02:19 ... with the beard? Look at the brother in the back. (laughs) He's like, "Man."

Andrew Schulz 1:02:22 Dude. Dude. Nah, he's fucking up.

Joe Rogan 1:02:23 "You gotta be fucking shitting me." (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 1:02:26 Ryan Gosling with the boom mic.

Joe Rogan 1:02:28 Oh, look at that guy. "Yes, MAGA all the way."

Andrew Schulz 1:02:31 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:31 He's like, "Yes."

Andrew Schulz 1:02:32 We made it.

Joe Rogan 1:02:32 "I can't wait to get on Gab and talk about this amazing meeting of the minds."

Andrew Schulz 1:02:36 (laughs) Has Trump reached out to you?

Joe Rogan 1:02:37 I can't wait... Look at his face.

Andrew Schulz 1:02:39 Has who? Trump reached out to you?

Joe Rogan 1:02:40 No. I'm friends with his son, though, like, text friends.

Andrew Schulz 1:02:43 Really?

Joe Rogan 1:02:43 Yeah. He's a nice guy. He's a hunter. We know each other through mutual friends-

Andrew Schulz 1:02:48 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:02:48 ... and one of our mutual friends who committed suicide.

Andrew Schulz 1:02:51 Oh, shit.

Joe Rogan 1:02:51 So I was like, (sighs) you know, but, uh, he's a nice guy. I mean, I don't agree with a lot of things that a lot of people that I know agree with.

Andrew Schulz 1:03:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:00 I think, I think we're allowed to be reasonable and cordial with each other.

Andrew Schulz 1:03:03 Yes.

Jamie Vernon 1:03:04 Yep.

Joe Rogan 1:03:04 What's the matter? What are you laughing at?

Andrew Schulz 1:03:06 What is it?

Jamie Vernon 1:03:07 Jim Brown was also sitting at that-

Joe Rogan 1:03:08 Oh, Jim Brown!

Andrew Schulz 1:03:09 Oh, yeah. Legend. Legend, bro.

Jamie Vernon 1:03:11 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:03:12 That's Jim Brown! Look at him!

Andrew Schulz 1:03:13 Legend.

Jamie Vernon 1:03:13 Dude.

Joe Rogan 1:03:13 You know, Jim Brown used to do the early commentary for the UFC?

Andrew Schulz 1:03:16 Really?

Joe Rogan 1:03:17 Yeah, man. He used to wear one of them Africa hats.

Andrew Schulz 1:03:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:19 Those, like, traditional Africa-

Andrew Schulz 1:03:21 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:21 Yeah, he d- he was like, he did my job for the UFC, like, UFC, like, I and II or some shit.

Andrew Schulz 1:03:26 Is he MMA savvy?

Joe Rogan 1:03:28 No, he's just a, a dude who knows how to fuck people up.

Andrew Schulz 1:03:30 That's true.

Joe Rogan 1:03:31 He's Jim Brown, man.

Andrew Schulz 1:03:32 Yeah, there was this-

Joe Rogan 1:03:33 Yeah, there, look at him. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 1:03:34 Fucking legend.

Joe Rogan 1:03:34 Now, the guy on his left, uh, our left, to our left is Bill "Superfoot" Wallace.

Andrew Schulz 1:03:39 Okay.

Joe Rogan 1:03:39 That's a world champion kickboxer from the '80s. He's a, a legend in the kickboxing world. There he is, Jim Brown.

1:03:45 – 1:04:48

Kickboxing, MMA skill hierarchies, and why wrestling dictates fights

Andrew Schulz 1:03:45 I just started, uh, uh, taking a couple kickboxing-

Joe Rogan 1:03:48 Yeah?

Andrew Schulz 1:03:48 ... classes, trying to learn kickboxing.

Joe Rogan 1:03:49 You got a good frame for it.

Andrew Schulz 1:03:51 Yeah, I, I used to box, right? So it's like-

Joe Rogan 1:03:55 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 1:03:55 ... (smacks lips) the, the, the most hum- first of all, it's nice to have something to, like, wanna get better at that has nothing-

Joe Rogan 1:03:59 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:03:59 ... to do with career.

Joe Rogan 1:04:00 Sure.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:00 Like, that's really fun.

Joe Rogan 1:04:01 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:01 You know? But, uh, the, the interesting thing about the kicking aspect of it is, uh, when I, when I would see guys learning how to box, like, the hook is a tough punch for people to get, right?

Joe Rogan 1:04:12 Right.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:13 Because it's something you almost have to kinda, like, pop.

Joe Rogan 1:04:15 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:15 Right? It, and people try to throw it instead of let your body throw it. And that's who I am with kicks.

Joe Rogan 1:04:21 Mm.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:22 I feel the, like, the exact same person I've been-

Joe Rogan 1:04:25 Right.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:26 ... trying to teach how to throw. It's just my body doesn't wanna let the legs go.

Joe Rogan 1:04:31 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:31 Does that make sense?

Joe Rogan 1:04:32 Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:32 I'm not jumping.

Joe Rogan 1:04:33 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:34 You know? Um-

Joe Rogan 1:04:35 I can help you.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:36 Yeah, yeah, that's-

Joe Rogan 1:04:36 I used to teach.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:37 R- yeah. I see-

Joe Rogan 1:04:38 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:38 ... that you do a lot of-

Joe Rogan 1:04:39 Yeah, I can, I could definitely help you with that. Yeah. You know what the thing, the way to do it is? You do it slow.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:44 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:04:44 Yeah. You do it slow, and you don't try to hit anything hard.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:47 When you try to hit

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