The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #1270 - Lenny Clarke
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150 min read · 30,003 words- 0:02 – 2:02
Boston stand-up reunion: early gigs, chaotic rooms, and the “cash” era
- JRJoe Rogan
Five, four, three, two, one. Fucking yeehaw. (clapping) Lenny Clarke, ladies and gentlemen-
- LCLenny Clarke
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... and his brother, Mike. Mike Clarke, the second man to ever give me paid work ever in my entire professional career-
- LCLenny Clarke
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... opening up for Lenny at Jay's in Pittsfield.
- LCLenny Clarke
(laughs) Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right?
- LCLenny Clarke
Right, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Shit, yeah.
- LCLenny Clarke
Yeah, I remember that place, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Norm the Foe gig.
- LCLenny Clarke
For... And I don't even know if Norm's around anymore, but I remember that gig like it was yesterday.
- JRJoe Rogan
That guy paid my rent many times, many times.
- LCLenny Clarke
Mm-hmm. Good guy.
- JRJoe Rogan
And you did too.
- LCLenny Clarke
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Working for you paid my rent ma-... I worked for- (laughs)
- LCLenny Clarke
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I worked for Mike one of the craziest gigs I ever did. Yeah, I think it was a one-and-done. You never did it again. It was a restaurant. And I was in the seating area. And the microphone for the people when they announce their table was tied-
- LCLenny Clarke
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... to the PA system.
- LCLenny Clarke
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
So you'd be in the middle of this punchline. You'd be like, "So I said to the guy, 'Clarke, party of two.'"
- LCLenny Clarke
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
"Party of two, Clarke, your table's ready."
- LCLenny Clarke
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, oh, no.
- LCLenny Clarke
Was that... That was at the Mexican place down at the Cape, wasn't it?
- JRJoe Rogan
Down at the Cape? No, it wasn't a Mexican place.
- LCLenny Clarke
(clears throat)
- 2:02 – 3:00
Showbiz updates: SMILF cancellation, Rosie O’Donnell, and what gets projects killed
- JRJoe Rogan
You wind up paying it for the rest of your life. It's like student loans or something, you know? What are you doing out here? What's going on?
- LCLenny Clarke
Uh, I, well, I came out to do this.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LCLenny Clarke
And-
- JRJoe Rogan
Justice? No, you're doing something else.
- LCLenny Clarke
Well, no, a little bit more. Uh, uh, w- I was gonna do, uh, Kimmel, but, uh, SMILF got canceled. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
What is SMILF?
- LCLenny Clarke
Single Mother I'd Like to Fuck. It was on Showtime.
- JRJoe Rogan
It was a show on Showtime?
- LCLenny Clarke
It was a show you were doing? It's coming to this, yeah. Uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LCLenny Clarke
... and, and, and, and, and I played Rosie O'Donnell's love interest.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- LCLenny Clarke
And I love, I love Rosie. You know-
- JRJoe Rogan
I do too.
- LCLenny Clarke
... I gave Rosie a break 35 years ago. She never forgot it, you know? And she's-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, that's great.
- LCLenny Clarke
... always been great to me. So we were gonna do that and then that didn't pan out and then the show got canceled, so... For sexual impropriety or something. It had nothing to do with me.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, really?
- LCLenny Clarke
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's why it got canceled?
- LCLenny Clarke
Yeah, evidently. I don't know. I, you know-
- JRJoe Rogan
Someone behind the scenes?
- LCLenny Clarke
Yeah, yeah, I don't know what happened.
- JRJoe Rogan
Used to be that was the norm, you know?
- LCLenny Clarke
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And now shows get canceled for that.
- LCLenny Clarke
I... (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
It's crazy.
- LCLenny Clarke
Uh, and now w-... Oh, thank God they didn't have cameras. Cellphones weren't-
- 3:00 – 5:13
Navy SEAL fundraiser trips: Coronado, obstacle courses, and Pentagon stories
- LCLenny Clarke
I'd be in forever. Are you kidding me? Uh, then we're going down to, uh, to do the Navy SEALS Family Foundation, a big fundraiser we do every year. Uh, gr-
- JRJoe Rogan
Is that in San Diego?
- LCLenny Clarke
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, cool.
- LCLenny Clarke
Yeah, yeah, down in Coronado with a good buddy of ours, Kerry Jackson. He's a Navy SEAL that we golfed with one day and we've been in touch with ever since. He's, he's a- They're the real badassess.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LCLenny Clarke
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Coronado's that island, right?
- LCLenny Clarke
Yeah. Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
I've never been.
- LCLenny Clarke
Oh, yeah, it's, it's-
- JRJoe Rogan
Supposed to be beautiful.
- LCLenny Clarke
I went down and, and Mike said, uh, "Do the obstacle course." I said, "All right." So I climbed the rope, that was a... Then there's these logs and I got on the logs. I figure I'd run ac-... They were spinning logs. No one told... I nearly broke my back. That was it, I was out.
- JRJoe Rogan
You had to step on them?
- LCLenny Clarke
Y- yeah, step... Run across them.
- JRJoe Rogan
On spinning logs?
- LCLenny Clarke
But they're rolling as you're running across. But they're rolling as you run it across. Yeah, it's not easy. Not easy.
- JRJoe Rogan
Did you have a mouthpiece?
- LCLenny Clarke
No, I had noth-... Uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) 'Cause it seems like (mouthing word) .
- LCLenny Clarke
Oh, yeah. (laughs) Well, thank God we were the only ones out there. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Well, that Coronado Island, I think that's where Dick Cheney lives.
- LCLenny Clarke
Oh. Is that right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, a lot of... Or Donald Rumsfeld, one of them rich warmonger type dudes.
- LCLenny Clarke
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's a lot of, uh, a lot of money out there.
- LCLenny Clarke
Yeah. I was in Rumsfeld's office.
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh-oh.
- LCLenny Clarke
At, at the Pentagon.
- JRJoe Rogan
Did you have the cross on you?
- 5:13 – 7:00
Health scares and survival: extreme heart rate, defibrillation record, and ablation
- LCLenny Clarke
Wow. I had a... I had the opposite problem. I had... I w- I was doing a show and they made... You know, years ago when you did a network show, they made you, uh, um, have a-
- JRJoe Rogan
Physical.
- LCLenny Clarke
... physical. Yeah, right. So I went in and the guy goes, "Oh my God." He goes, what? He goes, "Are you feeling okay?" "I feel great." He goes, "Your heart is beating 283 beats a minute." And I go, "Isn't that like a, a professional..." He goes, "That's like a dead man, you moron." So he said, uh, "This is horrible." And I s-
- JRJoe Rogan
283 beats a minute?
- LCLenny Clarke
Yeah, yeah, like your pu... Like, like crazy beat, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
It would go up and down?
- LCLenny Clarke
Yeah. Wh- what... Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- LCLenny Clarke
Yeah, yeah, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a lot.
- LCLenny Clarke
Oh, uh, they, they rushed me to a hospital. But before they did, I said, "Hey man, I really need this job." He said, you know, "Uh, if I give you some money." He goes, "Are you trying to bribe me?" I go, "Yeah."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LCLenny Clarke
He goes, (laughs) he goes, "We g- you're gonna be dead." And I go, "If I don't have this job, I don't wanna live. I, I need the job." You know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Jesus.
- LCLenny Clarke
And they, yeah, yeah... So they rushed me in and then they, uh, I had trivial fibrillation and then it was both sides. And I hold the record for being jumpstarted, you know, when they... Defibrillations, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah?
- LCLenny Clarke
At Mass General. Oh, yeah, it's like a phone book.
- JRJoe Rogan
How many times did they do you?
- LCLenny Clarke
Over 100.
- JRJoe Rogan
They restarted you 100 times?
- LCLenny Clarke
Yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoa.
- LCLenny Clarke
And-
- JRJoe Rogan
Can you see the future?
- LCLenny Clarke
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- MCMike Clarke
(laughs)
- LCLenny Clarke
There is no future, Joe.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, Jesus.
- LCLenny Clarke
This, this... Yeah. Well, they finally-
- 7:00 – 10:44
Cocaine-era Boston: Colombia “source tourism,” quitting, and the AA turning point
- LCLenny Clarke
But I didn't know. I was... It was asymptomatic, you know? And I said to the doctor, I said, "Well, what do you think it is?" He goes, "Well, you know, your weight probably has something to do." I said, "Well, I did a lot of blow." He goes, "You have to do incredible amounts of blow." I goes, "Well, there's a small mountain in Peru missing."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LCLenny Clarke
And, uh... He goes, "That much, Lenny?" I go, "That much, yeah."
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, that fucking whole crew. I mean, Sweeney and I talked about it when, uh, he did a show. That whole crew, that Nick Comedy Stop crew was a cocaine-
- LCLenny Clarke
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
... fucking extravaganza.
- LCLenny Clarke
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I was very fortunate that I didn't... I didn't... Still haven't, never did coke.
- LCLenny Clarke
Oh, no.
- JRJoe Rogan
It was not my thing.
- LCLenny Clarke
Joe, Joe, I went to-
- JRJoe Rogan
I won't.
- LCLenny Clarke
I went to Colombia to see where it was made.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LCLenny Clarke
I, I really did. I went-
- JRJoe Rogan
Really? (laughs)
- LCLenny Clarke
Yeah, yeah. I was going...
- JRJoe Rogan
It's 'cause you're a connoisseur.
- LCLenny Clarke
Oh, oh my God.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like doing a wine tour?
- LCLenny Clarke
I went there. It took me two days to score because... I said, "Wait, no."
- JRJoe Rogan
Really? (laughs)
- LCLenny Clarke
They said, "Where you going to blow?" Yeah, they said, "We sent it all to America, Mr. Lenny." I go-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LCLenny Clarke
... "Well, hold on. There's gotta be a new shipment." And then I got an ounce of blow for $200. You know, I had...
- JRJoe Rogan
Is that a lot?
- LCLenny Clarke
I go, I couldn't even finish it in a week, you know, but I tried.
- JRJoe Rogan
How much is an ounce of blow? What does it look like?
- LCLenny Clarke
You know the Scarface thing?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- 10:44 – 17:15
Boston comedy’s speed and violence: drug energy, ruthless crowds, and legendary rooms
- JRJoe Rogan
It's... That was... The thing about that whole Boston crew is that it was all kinda tied to drugs.
- LCLenny Clarke
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
And the comedy had that feel to it.
- LCLenny Clarke
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Because the comedy was frantic, you know. And there was a thing...
- MCMike Clarke
Bang, bang, bang.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, bang, bang, bang. There was a thing about the guys who came out of Boston, like still to this day, they had like the fastest pace, the most punchlines.
- LCLenny Clarke
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
And the audiences there were used to that.
- LCLenny Clarke
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
So they didn't want any bullshit.
- LCLenny Clarke
Well, and they would tell you.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- LCLenny Clarke
They would tell... If you weren't good, they go, "You suck tonight. Get off."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LCLenny Clarke
And, and, and we would have... There were, there were times when I'd say, "This is gonna be new material tonight. Anyone who doesn't do new material. The minute you do anything you've done before, get off the stage." So Rog would be sitting at the back and some... "You've done that thing." And he'd throw a shot glass, it would shatter on the wall. He'd go, "Next." You know, it was just...
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LCLenny Clarke
And it made you come... And the, the people, like you said, the audiences that came in there would come every week.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- LCLenny Clarke
So you'd have to... And they would not settle for any bullshit, you know. "That, that blows." "That's no good."... stuff down.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, there was a, there was a whole scene there. It wasn't just the comics, it was like comedy connoisseurs. There were so many people that came to those clubs.
- LCLenny Clarke
But the shows... (clears throat)
- JRJoe Rogan
Pull it up, Mike. Pull it-
- LCLenny Clarke
The shows that were legendary were the Ding Ho on Wednesday night.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- LCLenny Clarke
Lenny would put, like, 32 acts on.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LCLenny Clarke
And, and, and of all di- I'd go, "Len, you know, we gotta get this show over."
- JRJoe Rogan
We got to close.
- LCLenny Clarke
"Hey, hey, shut up, I got a couple more guys I wanna give a break too."
- 17:15 – 22:41
Fame vs. money and dealing with crowds: hecklers, DePaulo stories, and what success buys
- LCLenny Clarke
Of course. You know, I have, I have five billionaire friends. Billionaire, not millionaire, billionaire friends.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- LCLenny Clarke
Yeah. And I, I think I'm like their, you know, their pet, (laughs) pet, pet project. You know? But, I mean, it's unbelievable. I mean, the, to, to live like that. You know that show Billions? Have you ever seen that?
- JRJoe Rogan
No, I've never seen it.
- LCLenny Clarke
It's... These guys are just like that. More money than you could spend. More than you could spend.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, that's a weird life.
- LCLenny Clarke
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
A weird life where everybody else is struggling and scratching-
- LCLenny Clarke
But no one knows them. No, you know, these people-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- LCLenny Clarke
Well, some of them, people know, you know. But-... these people are like anonymous, and if more money, then you could have jets-
- MCMike Clarke
That's very clever.
- LCLenny Clarke
... yachts. Oh, yeah. That's... Oh, that's what I... I would like that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, that's the way to go.
- LCLenny Clarke
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And e- even if you were a comic, you'd rather just do clubs, just show up and do clubs and just do a set. Once you're on stage telling jokes, either they laugh or they don't laugh. If you're funny, you'll kill. It doesn't matter if you're famous.
- LCLenny Clarke
You know, I would like to... (clears throat) I would like to be... I like doing theaters now because it's a different crowd. You know, I, I, I still do a lot of clubs. I work Mike's club all the time. Thank God for him, but-
- MCMike Clarke
And thank God for me.
- LCLenny Clarke
Yeah, yeah.
- MCMike Clarke
He keeps me open (laughs) .
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LCLenny Clarke
There's some, there's some people... You know how when you work a club you get some drunk a- a- all it takes is one person.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- LCLenny Clarke
You, you... 'Cause I still go with the flow.
- JRJoe Rogan
Sure.
- LCLenny Clarke
I mean, I really don't know what I'm gonna do. I'm just gonna go, and I try to keep it, you know, with what's happening in the news today. And someone will just (babbling) and you go, "Oh, man." They break the rhythm, you know what I mean?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yep.
- LCLenny Clarke
And I, and I want to stab them, you know, but you can't.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, it doesn't always happen though. That's the thing. It does happen, but it doesn't always happen.
- LCLenny Clarke
No, you're right. He-
- 22:41 – 32:58
Career breaks and career landmines: hosting ‘Sunday Comics’ and the agent who stole millions
- LCLenny Clarke
You know, I, I enjoy when you hear stories about people remembering where they came from and they help people out. And when I was doing, uh, I was doing the Sunday comics at Fox, and, uh, it wasn't... It didn't start out well. I, I always wanted to go in Entertain the Troops, but when I got Lenny with CBS, they said, "No, you're a million-dollar prop, you're not going anywhere." So when the troops came home, my show, it got canceled. That's a whole nother different story.
- JRJoe Rogan
I want to talk about that story though.
- LCLenny Clarke
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
- MCMike Clarke
(laughs)
- LCLenny Clarke
Oh, it's, it's interesting.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a great story.
- LCLenny Clarke
So I, uh, I go to the, to 29 pounds Marine base. We pull up in a limo. We blow anything up, down and anything down, up. And I said, "I'm gonna like this place." So we go in and George Lopez there and George Miller, a couple of comics, nice guy. So I go up to Jeff Altman and he's the host, and I go to shake his hand and he blows me away. He gives me the high hat, walks away and I go, "Oh, you know, what's this?" So they say, um... Uh, later in the show, they said, "Listen, Jeff, we have this kid who got a Purple Heart. He's back now, and we want to unite him with his mother." And he goes, "That's kind of corny." And he walks off. I go, "I'll do it." And so I go, "Hey, how you doing? Uh, uh, Corporal?" He goes, "Well, you know, I miss my family." "Well, that's great 'cause we brought your mother in to be like..." Yeah!... and the crowd goes crazy. And they said, uh, "Do you want his job?" I said, "Yeah, give me a dollar more than him." And I took over the Sunday comics that night.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- LCLenny Clarke
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I mean-
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- LCLenny Clarke
And th- so then they say, (clears throat) we go from, like, 100 to 70 in the ratings. And they said, "What do you want?" I said, "I want you to hire this kid, Kenny Rogers in as my head writer." And they go, "What's he written?" I said, "Well, he wrote me a couple pr- uh, letters from prison and one from the nunnery."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LCLenny Clarke
I said, "And he w-" "No, I'm serious." I went, "You told me what I want. This is what I want." So, they hire him, and they fly him out. I pick him up at the airport and we drive to my place in Marina Del Rey. And he goes, "Which floor was yours?" I go, "All of 'em." You know, I was living in, like, a $3 million place at the time. And he goes, "This is incredible." So, we get jammed up for three days with coke and drinking.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LCLenny Clarke
And the third day, he comes down, he's all banged up, he goes, "Lenny," he goes, "I love you, man," but he goes, "I got a wife and kid now, I can't fuck this up. I- I really need the job." I said, "Okay, all right, we'll go to work."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LCLenny Clarke
So, we drive, we drive down to Fox and we p- I've got my parking space at the top of the roof, it's great. And we're going by A Current Affair, which used to be Murray Polvirch's used to be.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- LCLenny Clarke
I said, "You people suck. You shouldn't even have all these officers."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LCLenny Clarke
And Kenny goes, "Which ones?" I said, "We're killing them in the ratings." They get all the spen- So, we go down and, uh, I said to my secretary, "Hold all my calls." We go in my office and there's three couches. He said, "Why three couches?" I said, "When people come over, they might want to nap," right? So, they said, "Okay, Mr. Clarke, they're ready for Kenny." So, I bring Kenny in to meet the producers and I said, "Just come by the office when you're done." So, 20 minutes later, he comes bursting into my office, he goes, "You're not gonna believe it. You're the fucking boss! You know what they told me? My job is to make you happy." (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LCLenny Clarke
Oh, God, he was great.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, that show was a great show. But there was a crazy thing attached to that with your agent that wound up fucking over, not just you, but a slew of people. One guy-
- LCLenny Clarke
Oh, Bob Williams.
- JRJoe Rogan
Bob Williams.
- LCLenny Clarke
Bob Williams.
- JRJoe Rogan
What was the star agency? Is that what it- What the fuck was the name of it?
- LCLenny Clarke
Spotlight.
- JRJoe Rogan
Spotlight.
- 32:58 – 43:53
MeToo, backlash, and redemption: Louie CK at the club and the new comedy climate
- MCMike Clarke
Well, recently, Joe, I gave Louie a shot at the club, you know, after his little-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I heard about that.
- MCMike Clarke
And, you know, Louie called me up and said, "Hey, do you mind if I do a spot?" And I thought about it and I said, "Yeah, sure, no problem." You know, I like Louie. He wasn't-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- MCMike Clarke
... arrested or convicted of anything and-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- MCMike Clarke
... so I put him in. He did fantastic and-
- LCLenny Clarke
He goes, "Amazing. What do you think?" I said, "Yeah! Put him on."
- MCMike Clarke
And a- after that evening, the backlash was just unbelievable.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- MCMike Clarke
You know, just, I go, "How long is enough?" What does this guy have to do to try to get his career back up?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right, but what is the backlash though? Because the backlash is not your, your, the actual customers, right?
- MCMike Clarke
No, it, it-
- JRJoe Rogan
They're not, they're not complaining.
- MCMike Clarke
... it was, they grabbed some female comics that-
- JRJoe Rogan
Who aren't working.
- MCMike Clarke
... that aren't working for me.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- MCMike Clarke
And that s- said that Mike locked the doors and put a sexual predator on stage. And you know, it was like-
- JRJoe Rogan
(clears throat)
- MCMike Clarke
Everyone there enjoyed Louie and, you know, I'm just trying-
- JRJoe Rogan
Coughs ] .
- MCMike Clarke
... to help a friend get his life back.
- LCLenny Clarke
He, he ca- he came in (clears throat) and he walked over to me. I give him a big hug and he goes, "We got, we got no problem?" I go, "No, you nitwit." I said, "I would have called you if that prick Wright had given me your number. He didn't give me a number."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LCLenny Clarke
He goes, "That's not Wright." I go, "I know! That's what I told him." They said... So I bring him on stage, I said, "Ladies and gentlemen, you know, this Me Too thing and everything. Here's a guy who, who didn't touch any women." Matter of fact, he touched himself, that was the problem. They just happened to be in the room. And I said, "You could have jerked off in front of me as long as you didn't get on my shirt."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LCLenny Clarke
"My shirts are pretty expensive." I said, "But these are people you gave a job to!"
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LCLenny Clarke
The people that, that turned on him, he gave jobs to! And yeah, that's not right.
- 43:53 – 56:36
How comedy gets built: YouTube fame, Seinfeld’s ‘30 seconds,’ Charlie Murphy’s grit, and joke theft
- JRJoe Rogan
The most courageous guy I ever saw was Charlie Murphy.
- LCLenny Clarke
Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause Charlie Murphy was essentially a famous open mic-er.
- LCLenny Clarke
Mm. Mm-hmm. Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
And that fucking guy would... He started out hosting. It would be him and Donnell and Bill Burr, and they would do these shows together. And Charlie had never done standup.
- LCLenny Clarke
Mm.
- JRJoe Rogan
But he had the most famous brother ever.
- LCLenny Clarke
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, his brother was fucking Eddie Murphy.
- LCLenny Clarke
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And people had saw him on The Chappelle Show, and they-
- LCLenny Clarke
Chappelle Show really set him up.
- JRJoe Rogan
... they loved him from that. So he became famous. And then the guy had balls of fucking steel, man.
- LCLenny Clarke
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I did a 22-show tour with him, and he had only been doing comedy for two years.
- LCLenny Clarke
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And I had been doing comedy for more than 20.
- LCLenny Clarke
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And we were co-headlining.
- LCLenny Clarke
Mm.
- JRJoe Rogan
So I would headline one night, he would headline the other night. And, uh, I mean, to, to, to be able to go on after a guy has been doing comedy 24 years-
- LCLenny Clarke
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... whatever the fuck it was-
- LCLenny Clarke
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and go on after him and do 40 minutes-
- LCLenny Clarke
Never listen.
- JRJoe Rogan
... when you've only been doing... Yeah.
- LCLenny Clarke
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And th- just the balls that guy had.
- LCLenny Clarke
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And he was just- Malice. ... going out there like he owned the place. Yeah. He passed away, right? Yeah. Geez, yeah. Wow. He passed away, uh, (sighs) yeah, about a little over a year ago, I think it was. Wow. I think all the people that we worked with th- that, they're not here anymore. A lot of them gone. Mm.
- 56:36 – 1:04:19
Boston vs. New York ecosystems: club geography, crowd distance, and Joe’s move into TV
- JRJoe Rogan
We know it works. Well, we were very lucky that in those days in Boston, I mean, I started in '88, but in, in those days there was... Remember in Warrington Street?
- LCLenny Clarke
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You had, you had the Comedy at the Charles up the theater, uh, above.
- LCLenny Clarke
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Downstairs was The Connection.
- LCLenny Clarke
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Over here was Nick's.
- LCLenny Clarke
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
And over there was Duck Soup.
- LCLenny Clarke
Right, right.
- JRJoe Rogan
It was fucking crazy. It was crazy.
- LCLenny Clarke
Oh, my God, he opened one club. What was that club in the... In the Bradford?
- MCMike Clarke
Oh, that was at the Hotel Bradford.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- MCMike Clarke
With the-
- JRJoe Rogan
What was in the basement?
- LCLenny Clarke
Jokers.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay. This place would hold over 350 people.
- LCLenny Clarke
Oh, it was a beautiful room.
- JRJoe Rogan
And one night, I had Mike Binder come on. You know Mike.
- LCLenny Clarke
Sure.
- JRJoe Rogan
And Mike Binder... I says, "Do some...
- MCMike Clarke
He's doing a documentary right now on The Storm.
- JRJoe Rogan
I said, "Do some time." I'm in the back, at backstage, doing lines.
- MCMike Clarke
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
And he brought the entire audience up on stage-
- LCLenny Clarke
Through the, through the dressing room.
- JRJoe Rogan
... through the dressing rooms. And this is how the comedians are hard at work while the other comedians are on. I'm chopping up like, "Hey, how you doing?" (laughs)
- MCMike Clarke
(laughs) Jesus Christ.
- JRJoe Rogan
I used to do blow on stage and people go, "Relax, relax. It's just stunt coke. It's not real." You know?
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