Joe Rogan Experience #1275 - Luis J. Gomez

1. 0:00 – 1:01

   Luis J. Gomez and the middle initial: branding, search results, and ball-busting

   1. LGLuis J. Gomez0:00

      ... all this shit.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:02

      Four, three, two, one. (sniffs) Pow, Luis Gomez, we are live. We are live, connected through the interwebs, and through a network of comedians, Luis Gomez.

   3. LGLuis J. Gomez0:18

      Luis J. Gomez.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      Luis J. Gomez. What, why do you-

   5. LGLuis J. Gomez0:20

      Don't forget the J.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      ... like the J, why do you like the J?

   7. LGLuis J. Gomez0:22

      'Cause go Google Luis Gomez and watch how many baseball players-

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:25

      Oh, right, right, right.

   9. LGLuis J. Gomez0:26

      ... criminals, uh-

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       (laughs)

   11. LGLuis J. Gomez0:28

       ... fucking just-

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       That's a problem, making people use the J. That's very pretentious for a guy like you.

   13. LGLuis J. Gomez0:33

       Yeah, I agree. No, no, no, it is, I understand.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       You have to.

   15. LGLuis J. Gomez0:35

       But it's almost like, well, m- it's almost ironic-

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       Why don't you give him a nickname?

   17. LGLuis J. Gomez0:38

       ... because I'm such a piece of garbage, so I would have, like, a middle initial, like, um-

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:42

       Right, like you're like a, a luminary.

   19. LGLuis J. Gomez0:45

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       Some important (laughs) some important intellectual.

   21. LGLuis J. Gomez0:48

       Yeah. It is.

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       Hmm.

   23. LGLuis J. Gomez0:49

       Uh, but yeah, it does, it separates me as well. But I almost feel like I, I, I've made it a joke at this point to correct everyone that doesn't say the J. So if I didn't correct you-

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       Oh, I see.

   25. LGLuis J. Gomez0:57

       ... I wouldn't be being true to myself.

   26. JRJoe Rogan0:59

       I understand. So, Luis J. Gomez-

   27. LGLuis J. Gomez1:01

       Thank you.

2. 1:01 – 1:59

   Comedy without coasts: how the internet reshaped stand-up communities

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:01

      ... I feel like, um, you know, I've- we've talked about this ad nauseam on the podcast, but I think this is one of the most unique times for, uh, like, networks of comedians, that we're all connected together-

   2. LGLuis J. Gomez1:12

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:12

      ... in a way that we were n- we weren't really before. It was always, like, East Coast versus West Coast for some stupid fucking reason. There was always this debate where the best comics are from and the style of comedy. But that shit seems to be out the window.

   4. LGLuis J. Gomez1:24

      Yeah, the internet.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:25

      Yeah.

   6. LGLuis J. Gomez1:25

      You know, people- the best comics I- Nate Bargatze lives in fucking Tennessee.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:28

      Who's that?

   8. LGLuis J. Gomez1:29

      He's a great comic.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:30

      Is he?

   10. LGLuis J. Gomez1:30

       Squeaky clean, squeaky clean, my son's godfather.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:32

       Damn.

   12. LGLuis J. Gomez1:32

       Just did a Netflix special. Uh-

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:34

       How do you spell his last name? Oh, f-

   14. LGLuis J. Gomez1:35

       B-A-R-G-A-T-Z-E. Brilliant comic.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:39

       G-M-A-

   16. LGLuis J. Gomez1:40

       T-Z-E.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:40

       ... T-Z-E.

   18. LGLuis J. Gomez1:41

       But he grew up in Tennessee and he was like, "Dude, I don't wanna live in New York or LA."

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:45

       Good for him, he's smart.

   20. LGLuis J. Gomez1:45

       "I wanna buy a big house for $300,000."

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:48

       Country fella.

   22. LGLuis J. Gomez1:48

       "A fucking mansion."

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:49

       Get ready for the zombies.

   24. LGLuis J. Gomez1:50

       Yeah, that's it. (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:51

       Yeah, the zombies, you wanna live in that house like that old dude and his daughter did.

   26. LGLuis J. Gomez1:56

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:56

       You know? Gonna live out there and have a fucking perimeter protected.

3. 1:59 – 3:50

   Big dogs, pit bull debates, and losing pets

   1. LGLuis J. Gomez1:59

      Yeah. Guys like Stanhope, he hasn't been in LA or-

   2. JRJoe Rogan2:02

      He's been in Bisbee for 12 years now, that psychopath.

   3. LGLuis J. Gomez2:05

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan2:05

      RIP to Stanhope's dog. Stanhope buried his dog yesterday, did a big thing on social media about it. Very touching, very touching. They had to put their dog down.

   5. LGLuis J. Gomez2:14

      Sad.

   6. JRJoe Rogan2:15

      I went through that last year with two dogs. They, they both couldn't walk anymore. I mean, I, I held on as long as I can, but I s- I had to carry my dog in and out of the house. I had to carry him to eat, I had to carry him outside to go, and he was 140 pounds.

   7. LGLuis J. Gomez2:28

      Right.

   8. JRJoe Rogan2:28

      It was just, it was awful.

   9. LGLuis J. Gomez2:29

      Well, how, why couldn't they walk?

   10. JRJoe Rogan2:31

       He was old, man.

   11. LGLuis J. Gomez2:31

       Do jujitsu with them?

   12. JRJoe Rogan2:32

       Um, he's, um-

   13. LGLuis J. Gomez2:32

       (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan2:32

       ... I do a lot of leg locks. I feel like the dog should have some good defense.

   15. LGLuis J. Gomez2:36

       (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan2:36

       If he wants to protect my fucking house. (laughs)

   17. LGLuis J. Gomez2:38

       Knock their fucking legs. (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan2:40

       Oh, God. Um, no, he's just a big dog that are r- that's really old. He was 13, which is super old for a Mastiff. Which really-

   19. LGLuis J. Gomez2:47

       Oh, yeah, those are huge dogs.

   20. JRJoe Rogan2:48

       Really old for a Mastiff. He's a, what's called a Regency Mastiff, which is, he was part Neapolitan Mastiff and part pit bull. But the guy who, uh, my friend Joe B- who raised them and bred them, he bred out all of the animal aggression. So he wouldn't let any dogs breed if they were aggressive towards people or they're aggressive towards other dogs. So what you get is this super chill, massive dog.

   21. LGLuis J. Gomez3:11

       Oh, wow. Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan3:12

       Who's a- who's athletic. Like, they were small for a, like, a Mastiff is like, they can go like 200 plus pounds. But those dogs are not very athletic, they don't move very good.

   23. LGLuis J. Gomez3:20

       Right, but this one was a mix, so it had-

   24. JRJoe Rogan3:21

       These, these are like 140, they're like a fucking running back.

   25. LGLuis J. Gomez3:25

       I got a kid, so I have, I have a hard time bringing beasts into my home that can kill-

   26. JRJoe Rogan3:32

       Yeah.

   27. LGLuis J. Gomez3:32

       ... a child.

   28. JRJoe Rogan3:32

       Very wise, very wise.

   29. LGLuis J. Gomez3:33

       It's a weird, it's a, you, and you, and it's sad, and I'm not one of these anti-pit bull people. But I do understand when you see, you know, you see irresponsible owners, it's not the dog, you have a, you have an asshole. Some fucking kid who doesn't-

   30. JRJoe Rogan3:45

       Mm-hmm.
4. 3:50 – 5:03

   New York’s mixed-income reality: gentrification, ambition, and street-level culture

   1. LGLuis J. Gomez3:50

      Um, and you, you know, you see them, you know, they maul children and they, you know, and it's a sad, it's such a sad thing. So I get terrified any time I see my daug- my kid, I walk through the streets of New York City with him, and I live in Harlem, so it's, you know, every other block is like the hood, and then it's nice-

   2. JRJoe Rogan4:04

      Mm-hmm.

   3. LGLuis J. Gomez4:04

      ... and then it's the hood. And, uh, he wants to go-

   4. JRJoe Rogan4:06

      New York is so weird like that.

   5. LGLuis J. Gomez4:07

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan4:08

      They figure out how to do that.

   7. LGLuis J. Gomez4:09

      Yeah, it's, you know, well, it's, it's-

   8. JRJoe Rogan4:11

      That's what they call gentrification, right?

   9. LGLuis J. Gomez4:13

      Sort of. I mean, I guess it's as more of a racially, uh, they're talking with gentrification, sort of. I, I, I think it's like a class thing. 'Cause I grew up, uh, in a really shitty, I grew up in the suburbs but very poor, welfare, Section 8. And kids in the city, though, when they grow up poor, they're like, on the next block there's like a millionaire.

   10. JRJoe Rogan4:30

       Right.

   11. LGLuis J. Gomez4:30

       Or they're on the subway and there's some fucking dude who's going to Wall Street and-

   12. JRJoe Rogan4:33

       Mm-hmm.

   13. LGLuis J. Gomez4:33

       ... you know, he's, he, they're just constantly around an energy of success, which is a very different thing when you go to the suburbs or like rural areas.

   14. JRJoe Rogan4:40

       Hmm.

   15. LGLuis J. Gomez4:40

       It's a depressing, nobody's striving to even get out, really.

   16. JRJoe Rogan4:44

       Right. No, that's a very good point. Right? Like, you get to be truly integrated in New York City, which, where LA is missing that. LA's missing that in a big way. LA, you have rich people and poor people, you know, they're separated by cars.

   17. LGLuis J. Gomez4:58

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan4:58

       They're separated by neighborhoods.

   19. LGLuis J. Gomez4:59

       You can't hang out, well, you have to be in that social circle.

   20. JRJoe Rogan5:02

       Mm-hmm.

5. 5:03 – 6:46

   ‘Happy Booby Day,’ rockstar fantasies, and why fame is unreal

   1. LGLuis J. Gomez5:03

      You have to, 'cause people always debate like, "Oh, who has got, who's got hotter chicks in New York or LA?" And the answer is LA. But in New York, you're gonna see them. In New York, like, you walk down the street, me and Ari, uh, did, uh, he does a podcast every year called Happy Booby Day. And we did it last year-

   2. JRJoe Rogan5:17

      (laughs)

   3. LGLuis J. Gomez5:17

      ... with the Legion of Skanks, and all it is, Happy Booby Day, it's, today, to be honest with you, it's the fir- it's the, the first like days of spring.

   4. JRJoe Rogan5:25

      Mm-hmm.

   5. LGLuis J. Gomez5:25

      Usually end of March, beginning of April, and it's the first day that girls wear like miniskirts out and their tits are just hanging out. And, um, we literally just walk through the streets following hot chicks, comment- it was the most, I mean, you literally, I don't even know, I don't even know how we have careers at all. Like, we did this a year ago.

   6. JRJoe Rogan5:40

      (laughs)

   7. LGLuis J. Gomez5:40

      This isn't fucking 20 years ago.

   8. JRJoe Rogan5:42

      (sighs) Oh.

   9. LGLuis J. Gomez5:43

      But, uh, yeah, you, but you get to see them, you get to interact with them. In LA, you're not interacting with a crazy hot model unless you know the right people.

   10. JRJoe Rogan5:50

       You'd have to be standing somewhere where they go. Right?

   11. LGLuis J. Gomez5:53

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan5:53

       'Cause like, in LA, if you wanted to meet-You'd have to run a casting agency. That's what you'd have to do.

   13. LGLuis J. Gomez5:58

       (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan5:58

       That's why those guys started that shit.

   15. LGLuis J. Gomez6:00

       Yeah. (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan6:00

       That's why they did that. How many people went into the business just so they'd meet girls?

   17. LGLuis J. Gomez6:04

       Just to get pussy.

   18. JRJoe Rogan6:05

       Like, 30% of them?

   19. LGLuis J. Gomez6:06

       That whole Mötley Crüe movie, they s- they're unapologetic about it.

   20. JRJoe Rogan6:09

       Yeah.

   21. LGLuis J. Gomez6:10

       They're unapologetic. They're like, uh, "Yeah, we, we did this..." Mick Mars was like, "If it wasn't for groupies..." This was in a real interview. "If it wasn't for groupies, I would- wouldn't even become a musician."

   22. JRJoe Rogan6:20

       Yeah, I mean, people would criticize that, like, "Oh, that's so gross. They should be a real artist." Listen. That is a crazy life. You do not understand. No one understands. I don't understand. There's no fucking- like, we had David Lee Roth in here a couple weeks ago.

   23. LGLuis J. Gomez6:33

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan6:33

       There is no fucking way any of us will ever understand what it was like to be David Lee Roth. It is not humanly possible.

   25. LGLuis J. Gomez6:39

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan6:40

       He- it is not po- and to be- to come out the other end as fucking cool as that guy is? Like, how the hell did that happen?

6. 6:46 – 15:13

   Liver shots and boxing power: technique, damage, and Shannon Briggs

   1. LGLuis J. Gomez6:46

      To not be- I feel like I'm dying, and I don't party at all, really. Like, I drink a little bit, and I feel like every day I'm like, "Is that my liver?"

   2. JRJoe Rogan6:52

      Right.

   3. LGLuis J. Gomez6:52

      I don't even know where my liver is on my body. I swear to God. I couldn't point to my liver on my body.

   4. JRJoe Rogan6:55

      Okay, if you're standing in orthodox stance and someone hits you with a left hook to the body, that's where your liver is.

   5. LGLuis J. Gomez7:00

      (laughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan7:00

      That's why guys drop.

   7. LGLuis J. Gomez7:02

      Right here?

   8. JRJoe Rogan7:02

      Yep.

   9. LGLuis J. Gomez7:03

      Boom.

   10. JRJoe Rogan7:03

       It's right under your ribs. It's like right here.

   11. LGLuis J. Gomez7:04

       Okay.

   12. JRJoe Rogan7:05

       So when you punch somebody in the liver, you're n- a lot of guys mistakenly go below the ribs.

   13. LGLuis J. Gomez7:10

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan7:10

       You'd wanna go right where the floating rib actually begins.

   15. LGLuis J. Gomez7:12

       So the rib bounces into the...

   16. JRJoe Rogan7:14

       Yeah, if you watched, like, Shannon The Cannon Briggs, shout out to the champ. Oh, look at David Lee Roth in that picture.

   17. LGLuis J. Gomez7:20

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan7:21

       Oof.

   19. LGLuis J. Gomez7:21

       Look at that.

   20. JRJoe Rogan7:22

       Come on, man. Nobody lives like that. That guy was on top of the goddamn world. He was built like a Greek god, he could do the full splits.

   21. LGLuis J. Gomez7:29

       (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan7:29

       He would do fucking wheel kicks on stage and shit. Dude, the level-

   23. LGLuis J. Gomez7:33

       Look at that. Look at that chest hair, unapologetic.

   24. JRJoe Rogan7:35

       The level of sex this guy must have had.

   25. LGLuis J. Gomez7:39

       Oh, my God.

   26. JRJoe Rogan7:39

       Off the charts.

   27. LGLuis J. Gomez7:40

       Oh, my God. And- and to be honest with you, when I started comedy-

   28. JRJoe Rogan7:43

       Look at him.

   29. LGLuis J. Gomez7:43

       ... I started comedy wanting-

   30. JRJoe Rogan7:45

       (laughs)
7. 15:13 – 18:01

   Street violence, Nipsey Hussle, and Luis’s father’s death

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:13

      I mean, it's like, especially after that Nipsey Hussle guy got killed. It's like-

   2. LGLuis J. Gomez15:16

      That's crazy.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:17

      (sighs) That's so sad.

   4. LGLuis J. Gomez15:18

      Yeah, on video, too, they have the, uh-

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:20

      No, Jesus Christ.

   6. LGLuis J. Gomez15:22

      It's fucked up, um. I- I- I'm not a hip hop fan at all, um, but apparently he was very positive, like anti-violence. Like, it wasn't like a-

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:28

      Yes.

   8. LGLuis J. Gomez15:28

      ... you know, thuggy rapper that was promoting, you know, drug dealing and, and gang violence, which I don't really know if even people do that as much anymore.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:37

      I don't know, but by all accounts, this guy was loved.

   10. LGLuis J. Gomez15:40

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:40

       And, uh, you know, he just ... It's just beyond fucked. (sighs) Just, like, that, that is still going on in this world.

   12. LGLuis J. Gomez15:50

       It was, if I'm not mistaken, um, he got into a fight with a guy, right? And the guy came back with a gun-

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:58

       I don't know.

   14. LGLuis J. Gomez15:59

       ... and shot him. That's what I read. I, I think it was, like, a- something-

   15. JRJoe Rogan16:02

       I don't know if it was along those lines. Something along those lines.

   16. LGLuis J. Gomez16:04

       'Cause y- the, this ... When you hear about a hip hop artist gunned down, you're like, "Oh, is this some long-standing beef?"

   17. JRJoe Rogan16:09

       Yeah.

   18. LGLuis J. Gomez16:09

       And, you know, you know, who knows? But I think it was literally a fight that these guys got in, and the guy came back with a gun and just fucking started unloading, which is-

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:18

       Mm.

   20. LGLuis J. Gomez16:18

       It's brutal. That's literally how my father died. Literally ... Well, except with a, it was with a knife, which is a much more hardcore way to do it.

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:24

       (laughs)

   22. LGLuis J. Gomez16:24

       But my dad was outside of a strip club at four o'clock in the morning, got into an argument with, uh, a kid, you know, um, like a 16-year-old kid. And they got into a fistfight, uh, you know, uh, the kid came back, like, an hour later with a kitchen knife and stabbed him. That's that.

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:40

       Oof.

   24. LGLuis J. Gomez16:41

       And it's like, God, d- y- ... It also takes a different type of person to, you know, to, to kill. I'm, I'm not, I'm not the kid in the hood who's just ready to pull the trigger and punch somebody. Like, I'm not-

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:52

       Mm-hmm.

   26. LGLuis J. Gomez16:52

       I grew up in a weird way where it's like I was taught, like, "Well, you wait til they throw the first punch," which is a terrible strategy. But th- the, that's sort of the way that I always ... It was always, like, fistfights in the parking lot with your friends.

   27. JRJoe Rogan17:02

       Mm-hmm.

   28. LGLuis J. Gomez17:02

       You weren't trying to really hurt each other. It was, you got into an argument over a video game, and you went out back in the parking lot, and you beat each other up for two minutes.

   29. JRJoe Rogan17:09

       Right.

   30. LGLuis J. Gomez17:09

       And then that was that. Um, but guys that are, you know, willing to kill somebody over whatever, just an argument, take their life completely without any ... Just even, they, they lose sense of the repercussions of it as well, which is sort of, like, that's something that I think would separate most people and go like, "All right, well, I don't wanna go to jail. There's cameras."
8. 18:01 – 22:19

   Breaking the cycle: abusive childhoods, parenting, and creating a better kid

   1. LGLuis J. Gomez18:01

      And I, uh, I, I, you know, I grew up ... My mom was extremely abusive, um-... you know, and I grew up with a l- uh, around a ton of violence, a ton of physical and emotional abuse, verbal abuse, always the threat of violence. At th- at the drop of a hat, it was, it was always immediately to, "I'll beat the shit out of you if you don't do what I say."

   2. JRJoe Rogan18:19

      Right, right.

   3. LGLuis J. Gomez18:19

      Um, even if she wasn't being violent. Um, and I... Dude, I go the opposite, dude. I, I, you know, with my son, dude, I... Literally, my son had never even spanked him. I've never smacked him on the hand. I've never... I've never even really yelled at my son. Um, and I don't think that I got lucky and have a good kid. I do have a good... I have a great kid. But I think it's a direct re-... you know, correlation to me not being aggressive with him.

   4. JRJoe Rogan18:42

      Right.

   5. LGLuis J. Gomez18:43

      At all.

   6. JRJoe Rogan18:43

      Right. Yeah.

   7. LGLuis J. Gomez18:44

      And I talk.

   8. JRJoe Rogan18:45

      Talking is huge, right? Have little conversations with them. Don't just tell them what to do.

   9. LGLuis J. Gomez18:50

      Well, you have to give them a why.

   10. JRJoe Rogan18:51

       Ask them how they're feeling. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

   11. LGLuis J. Gomez18:52

       You have to give them the why. If they don't understand why... You know, that just... In general, in life, people, just in general, if they understand why something th- there's a real purpose there, and then they do what they're doing, you know, with that purpose in mind.

   12. JRJoe Rogan19:03

       Yeah. Yeah.

   13. LGLuis J. Gomez19:04

       And I think when little kids, they're, you know, they're so malleable. And sometimes i- it's annoying for them to ask why two or three times.

   14. JRJoe Rogan19:10

       Mm-hmm.

   15. LGLuis J. Gomez19:11

       And it's easy to lose your patience. Um, but what you realize what you're... You know, that's... You know, I'm a piece of shit, I'll admit. I'm the first one to admit it. But the only good thing I do, I think, is the fact that I'm creating this good little person.

   16. JRJoe Rogan19:21

       Mm-hmm.

   17. LGLuis J. Gomez19:22

       He's a really good, sweet person that I think is gonna be... You know, all the shit that I didn't really have or, you know, all the good qualities that I think I... you know, I, I could have maybe had if I was raised the right way, I'm trying to give my son. And I think that's a really big responsibility, and that's why, you know, you... I feel bad when you see, like, real violence like that, like fucking people that are, like, being really... You're like, "Dude, I know that person experienced some crazy shit."

   18. JRJoe Rogan19:45

       100%.

   19. LGLuis J. Gomez19:45

       And it's, it's, it's not their fault in a weird way.

   20. JRJoe Rogan19:47

       And, and it's definitely not. You know, I never lived in the worst neighborhood in the world, but I lived in, uh, a shady one for quite a bit. We lived in this place called Jamaica Plain, uh, outside of Boston for about a year. My, my parents knew immediately we, we had to get the fuck out of there. We only... I think we stayed maybe a year, a little over a year. And, uh, we got out of there as quick as we can. But there was, like, a lot of break-ins, a lot of... It was lower income. It wasn't terrible, it wasn't like a, a gang violence, shoot-'em-up type shit, but there was a lot of criminals.

   21. LGLuis J. Gomez20:17

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan20:17

       There's a lot of shady shit, fights-

   23. LGLuis J. Gomez20:18

       Shitty poverty. It does... You don't have to-

   24. JRJoe Rogan20:20

       Yeah.

   25. LGLuis J. Gomez20:20

       It doesn't have to be, like, gangs.

   26. JRJoe Rogan20:21

       Mm-hmm.

   27. LGLuis J. Gomez20:21

       It's just shitty... Dude, p- poverty makes people do crazy shit.

   28. JRJoe Rogan20:25

       It does. An- and it makes... I, I was never around kids that were that aggressive. Like, kids were always trying to fight me. And, um, I just moved there. We just moved there from Florida, and I was like, "Fuck, I gotta get out of here." And this is what, what led me to martial arts, really.

   29. LGLuis J. Gomez20:38

       How old were you?

   30. JRJoe Rogan20:38

       13.
9. 22:19 – 25:41

   Cancel culture, social media outrage, and why everyone’s throwing rocks

   1. JRJoe Rogan22:19

      It's like everything s- switches and gets weird, and then you're like, "Oh, I'm responsible for f- for shaping your life, and at least helping to shape your life. And if I do a good job, you'll be a good person, and you'll go out there and you'll make more good people and you'll meet good people," which is really what everybody wants. At the end of the day, everybody wants comradery and love and friendship. That's why, like, what's the worst shit that can happen today? You get canceled. Everybody wants to cancel people.

   2. LGLuis J. Gomez22:50

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan22:51

      "You're out. Get outta here."

   4. LGLuis J. Gomez22:52

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan22:53

      "You're done. It's over." There's a weird thrill to that.

   6. LGLuis J. Gomez22:55

      Which is a strange... It's also like, "I want you to not be able to make money."

   7. JRJoe Rogan23:00

      But it's not even just that.

   8. LGLuis J. Gomez23:00

      And I want you to starve or go home- be homeless. I don't really understand that.

   9. JRJoe Rogan23:03

      It's not specific. It's not specific in terms like they don't want you to be able to make an income. They wanna hurt you, that's what it is, because they're scared of someone doing it to them. This is the m- a big part of why people pull the trigger on that stuff, whether they're just li- ... People are calling for people to get canceled for, like, nothing, like little tiny things. "Never again." It's because they're scared of it actually happening, so this is like you have this ultimate power to just, to just, like, get upset at someone for virtually anything. Pick a, pick a cause.

   10. LGLuis J. Gomez23:33

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan23:33

       Whatever it is, you can get upset at something.

   12. LGLuis J. Gomez23:34

       Well, it's also, it's, it's sort of intoxicating and it's fun.

   13. JRJoe Rogan23:37

       Yes.

   14. LGLuis J. Gomez23:37

       And m- most people don't have real opinions on anything, and then you have this, this... You know, on, on Facebook or Twitter or whatever social media platform, you have an immediate gratification of, like-

   15. JRJoe Rogan23:48

       Mm-hmm.

   16. LGLuis J. Gomez23:48

       ... I just got 20 likes on a thought of mine.

   17. JRJoe Rogan23:50

       Yeah.

   18. LGLuis J. Gomez23:51

       That's addictive as fuck.

   19. JRJoe Rogan23:52

       That's super addictive.

   20. LGLuis J. Gomez23:53

       You know, that, that right there will... You know, I understand why people continue to come back and that nobody really cares. As soon as you put your computer down or your phone down, nobody gives a fuck about any of these issues at the supermarket or at the bowling alley or at the library.

   21. JRJoe Rogan24:07

       Some people do, but that's not what's important. What, what's important is the internet is essentially the whole world is a big window and everyone has a rock. (laughs)

   22. LGLuis J. Gomez24:16

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan24:16

       People are just looking to throw rocks.

   24. LGLuis J. Gomez24:18

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan24:18

       And if you find a thing to throw a rock about, whether it's to throw a rock about politics or, or gender or race or, uh, uh, social justice or, you know, w- fill in the blank, the environment-

   26. LGLuis J. Gomez24:31

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan24:32

       ... the, saving the animals, everyone's throwing rocks.

   28. LGLuis J. Gomez24:35

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan24:35

       You know, and very few people are, uh, actually communicating. It's a strange time for that.

   30. LGLuis J. Gomez24:39

       Well, you would think that you would want... In an ideal world, you would want people that have differing ideas to come together, sit down, have an honest conversation-
10. 25:41 – 30:26

    Immigration and empathy: border cages, tradeoffs, and not having easy answers

    1. JRJoe Rogan25:41

       Fucking country is fun. But there's definitely some fucked up aspects of it. The, the fact that we're a country... This is the... The big one is immigration to me, because immigration to me, when people take a hard line one way or the other, I'm always like, "Hmm, man, this is a weird one." Immigration's a weird one. You don't wanna diminish the quality of life for everyone in the country, but you don't wanna not let people in because that's what the country is based on. And we see these fenced in people, and where is it? Is it El Paso? There was, uh, something that they had on the news where they showed all these people fenced in, in what looks like a dog kennel. And these, these, uh, people that snuck across the border and they captured them-

    2. LGLuis J. Gomez26:18

       Yeah.

    3. JRJoe Rogan26:18

       ... so they just put them in this fucking outdoor fenced in cage. Like, dude, we don't even do that to violent murderers.

    4. LGLuis J. Gomez26:25

       Yeah.

    5. JRJoe Rogan26:25

       You have a violent murderer...

    6. LGLuis J. Gomez26:27

       There's due process, yeah.

    7. JRJoe Rogan26:28

       Yeah, well, not, not, not just due process. You put him in a prison, man.

    8. LGLuis J. Gomez26:31

       Right.

    9. JRJoe Rogan26:31

       Like, th- they don't have the facilities to do what they're doing.

    10. LGLuis J. Gomez26:33

        Right.

    11. JRJoe Rogan26:34

        And then people are like, "Well, they shouldn't be coming across the border." Like, I guess so, but wouldn't you?

    12. LGLuis J. Gomez26:38

        I'm also like, "Who-"

    13. JRJoe Rogan26:39

        But wouldn't you?

    14. LGLuis J. Gomez26:40

        Who cares? Like, I, I understand, yes, there is sort of a... But anybody who is up in arms about immigrants coming to this country, most of the time they're also on one side of the political spectrum on every other issue.

    15. JRJoe Rogan26:54

        Mm-hmm.

    16. LGLuis J. Gomez26:55

        It's not like it's an independent thought. It's like they, they-

    17. JRJoe Rogan26:57

        No, it's part of a program.

    18. LGLuis J. Gomez26:58

        And everybody... That, that's on both sides, you know?

    19. JRJoe Rogan27:00

        Yeah.

    20. LGLuis J. Gomez27:00

        And, you know, I just sort of... I'm in a... I have my own personal life philosophy where I'm not gonna solve the immigration issue. And to be honest, as we're talking about it, I'm going like, "I don't know. I, I have no idea what the answer is here." People are obsessed with being right. People always wanna have an answer. I don't fucking know. But, uh, I do know that I have things in my life that, you know, I can fix. I, I know there are... You know, there are things about my personality and things about me and my own, you know, my own issues that I need to fix. So I'll s- sort of start there, you know? And I think more people need to kinda, you know, look-

    21. JRJoe Rogan27:30

        You mean before they start espousing opinions, look at themselves and figure out why they're coming up with these opinions? Is that what you're saying?

    22. LGLuis J. Gomez27:35

        Y- yeah, just sort of.

    23. JRJoe Rogan27:36

        Yeah.

    24. LGLuis J. Gomez27:36

        Um, the, I just-

    25. JRJoe Rogan27:39

        This one's like it pulls on your humanity. You see a bunch of people caged in with their children in some fenced in area that literally looks like a dog kennel.

    26. LGLuis J. Gomez27:46

        Yeah.

    27. JRJoe Rogan27:46

        You're like, "This is crazy."

    28. LGLuis J. Gomez27:47

        Well, I'm not saying I don't care about that. I just... I, I don't care about people coming in the country and going in these imaginary lines. I, I, I... You know, it's just sort of like, yeah, I think it's, um... I, I think as a human being, it's hard to see that. And I look away from shit like that a lot.

    29. JRJoe Rogan28:04

        What do you mean?

    30. LGLuis J. Gomez28:04

        You know, I don't look... I, I, I don't like looking at videos like that. I don't like watching sad things. I don't watch any gore shit. I didn't watch the, the video of the dude that-
11. 30:26 – 35:41

    Catcalling, gender dynamics, and the ‘what it’s like to be a woman’ analogy

    1. LGLuis J. Gomez30:26

       I used... I used to love catcalling. In a f-

    2. JRJoe Rogan30:28

       It's terrible for you.

    3. LGLuis J. Gomez30:29

       In a funny way, though. It's not... Yeah, it's wrong. I will preface this by saying it's wrong. But... And as- as an adult, as a 37-year-old man, uh, who has a six-year-old boy, um, who will probably watch this one day, I will say, "Don't do that."

    4. JRJoe Rogan30:44

       Don't do what Daddy says.

    5. LGLuis J. Gomez30:45

       Yeah.

    6. JRJoe Rogan30:45

       Do as I say, not as I do.

    7. LGLuis J. Gomez30:46

       Exactly. But I will say, it was sort of like a funny thing. We would just, we would just catcall chicks in a funny way. We would do it almost like mocking guys who catcall. However, from the girl's perspective, she's just being catcalled.

    8. JRJoe Rogan30:57

       Yeah, the girls don't like it. Unless they really like it.

    9. LGLuis J. Gomez31:00

       Well, it depends.

    10. JRJoe Rogan31:00

        Uh, they, they could be freaks. But it's, it's never worth the risk.

    11. LGLuis J. Gomez31:03

        You can go to, you can go to the hood-

    12. JRJoe Rogan31:03

        It's not like... One out of 10 may, might like it.

    13. LGLuis J. Gomez31:06

        I, I had talked about this in my special, but if you go holler at a fucking Puerto Rican chick or a Black chick...

    14. JRJoe Rogan31:12

        They want it?

    15. LGLuis J. Gomez31:13

        They like it.

    16. JRJoe Rogan31:13

        Okay.

    17. LGLuis J. Gomez31:14

        I'm making a generalization here-

    18. JRJoe Rogan31:15

        Different culture.

    19. LGLuis J. Gomez31:15

        ... but I'm telling you right now, it's how... It's a different level of community. I'm telling you, go watch in Harlem or if you go to Brooklyn, just watch-

    20. JRJoe Rogan31:22

        Luis J. Gomez defends catcalling.

    21. NANarrator31:24

        (laughs)

    22. LGLuis J. Gomez31:24

        Oh, yeah, I'll say.

    23. JRJoe Rogan31:25

        Live on the JRE.

    24. NANarrator31:26

        (laughs)

    25. LGLuis J. Gomez31:27

        You guys, you guys can... I have a, I have a bit about it on my brand-new special, Luis J. Gomez Presents: Luis J. Gomez.

    26. JRJoe Rogan31:30

        Oh, I, I hear it's out right now.

    27. LGLuis J. Gomez31:31

        Yeah.

    28. NANarrator31:31

        Oh.

    29. LGLuis J. Gomez31:32

        Just came out.

    30. JRJoe Rogan31:32

        Is it out on Amazon?
12. 35:41 – 50:44

    Training with Bisping: the skill gap, jiu-jitsu injuries, and wrestler toughness

    1. LGLuis J. Gomez35:41

       Well, that's what I... When I was training for that, uh, MMA fight-

    2. NANarrator35:45

       (laughs)

    3. LGLuis J. Gomez35:45

       ... against a comedian, I trained with Bisping, uh, twice. And I grappled with Bisping, and Bisping's not even known for his jiu-jitsu.

    4. JRJoe Rogan35:50

       Of course he is.

    5. LGLuis J. Gomez35:52

       He, he... No, he's got... He's got jiu-jitsu. He's got... He's brought, brought both... All I know-

    6. JRJoe Rogan35:55

       But his, uh, his, uh, guard, his defensive guard is one of the best in MMA. Very rarely do people pass his guard. When he's on-

    7. LGLuis J. Gomez36:00

       Yeah.

    8. JRJoe Rogan36:00

       ... the ground, he's, he's excellent.

    9. LGLuis J. Gomez36:02

       But primarily, he... You know, he's known as a striker.

    10. JRJoe Rogan36:04

        Yeah.

    11. LGLuis J. Gomez36:04

        Primarily.

    12. JRJoe Rogan36:05

        Primarily.

    13. LGLuis J. Gomez36:06

        D- I can't explain to you. It was like I felt like a lion was just toying with me. It, it was... And it, it was, it was a strange thing because I'd never in my life... 'Cause you... Obviously, you know an MMA fighter can beat you up. You know a professional mixed martial artist can beat you up. But I don't think people realize how badly and wh- how big of the gap-

    14. JRJoe Rogan36:26

        Hm.

    15. LGLuis J. Gomez36:27

        ... it is.

    16. JRJoe Rogan36:27

        Yeah, of course, dude.

    17. LGLuis J. Gomez36:28

        Because it's not... It's-But they don't know, Joe.

    18. JRJoe Rogan36:30

        No.

    19. LGLuis J. Gomez36:30

        You know, people have no fucking clue until you do it, and I had no idea until ... This is last summer, and I ju- And he was fucking around with me for a second.

    20. JRJoe Rogan36:38

        Yeah.

    21. LGLuis J. Gomez36:39

        It was terrifying. And I, I feel like less of a man. I can't look at my son in the eyes-

    22. JRJoe Rogan36:42

        (laughs)

    23. LGLuis J. Gomez36:42

        ... the same way that I used to be able to. I- I don't fuck right anymore.

    24. JRJoe Rogan36:45

        You know what it's like? Oh, come on. You'll be all right.

    25. LGLuis J. Gomez36:47

        (laughs)

    26. JRJoe Rogan36:47

        You know what it's like? It's like, um ... Do you know how people see someone do stand up and they think, "I could fucking do that."

    27. LGLuis J. Gomez36:52

        Everyone. That's how we all started.

    28. JRJoe Rogan36:53

        You know- Right. B- 'Cause you're just talking.

    29. LGLuis J. Gomez36:55

        Yeah.

    30. JRJoe Rogan36:55

        The guy's just talking.
13. 50:44 – 56:50

    Martial arts origins and power: Rogan’s Taekwondo hook, heavy bag work, and knockout genetics

    1. JRJoe Rogan50:44

       No.

    2. LGLuis J. Gomez50:44

       You look like a baseball player job.

    3. JRJoe Rogan50:45

       I did play baseball.

    4. LGLuis J. Gomez50:46

       Yeah.

    5. JRJoe Rogan50:46

       And then I, I actually quit doing everything else but martial arts because of baseball. I went to see a Red Sox game at Fenway Park, and when, uh, me and my buddy were coming home there was, like, uh, crazy crowds of people trying to get on the T, which is the train to get home. So, um, we just, for ... While we were walking by this TaeKwonDo gym I, I walked upstairs, I wanted to see what it was all about. And as I was walking up the stairs there was this guy named John Lee, who was a national champion at the time, and one of the best black belts this guy, Jae Kim, uh, ever produced. And he was murdering this heavy bag. I mean, murdering it.

    6. LGLuis J. Gomez51:22

       Yeah.

    7. JRJoe Rogan51:22

       He was hitting it with these spinning back kicks that was making this sound, like, whoomp! And then you'd hear ka-chink! Where the chains would, would snap, 'cause, uh, I mean, the, just-

    8. LGLuis J. Gomez51:32

       Yeah.

    9. JRJoe Rogan51:32

       ... extend to their full length, 'cause he was kicking this bag and it was flying through the air. And so I'd never seen anything ... And I was, uh, as close to him doing that as Jamie is to me right now. 'Cause there was, like, a little wall and there was a heavy bag there.

    10. LGLuis J. Gomez51:44

        Right.

    11. JRJoe Rogan51:44

        And the way, uh, Mr. Kim and Mr. O'Malley, Michael O'Malley, who was also the, the head instructor while Mr. Kim was gone, they set up the bags right there. Because they knew that if people were coming in thinking about signing up, and a guy like John Lee's kicking the bag, you're like, "I wanna f- do that."

    12. LGLuis J. Gomez51:58

        Yeah.

    13. JRJoe Rogan51:58

        "How the fuck do you do that?"

    14. LGLuis J. Gomez51:59

        Were you athletic at all grow-

    15. JRJoe Rogan52:01

        Yeah.

    16. LGLuis J. Gomez52:01

        Were you, you wrestled-

    17. JRJoe Rogan52:02

        I wrestled. I wrestled, I did, um ... I wrestled also while I was doing TaeKwonDo for one year. It was too much to do two at the same time.

    18. LGLuis J. Gomez52:08

        Yeah.

    19. JRJoe Rogan52:08

        But I did, uh, I played baseball, but I wasn't very good. I just, like, I never, ever tried to get on base. I always tried to hit home runs. The coach said, "Just hit a single, just hit a single, we really need this." I'm like, "Yeah, yeah. Fuck you."

    20. LGLuis J. Gomez52:19

        Yeah. (laughs)

    21. JRJoe Rogan52:20

        I got there, swing for the bleachers.

    22. LGLuis J. Gomez52:22

        (laughs)

    23. JRJoe Rogan52:22

        I didn't give a fuck, man. I either struck out or I hit a home run.

    24. LGLuis J. Gomez52:25

        Uh, trying to, trying to finger bang a chick at the pepper alley.

    25. JRJoe Rogan52:27

        Yeah.

    26. LGLuis J. Gomez52:28

        Listen-

    27. JRJoe Rogan52:28

        I hit one home run once and that was it. I was like, "Oh, I can do that?" Like, "I didn't know I could do that." 'Cause as a little kid I, I could swing pretty hard. I, and, you know, they're, they're light bats and the kids aren't throwing very fast.

    28. LGLuis J. Gomez52:41

        Yeah.

    29. JRJoe Rogan52:41

        Everybody else is 13 too. You know, and, but from going to that one TaeKwonDo gym, watching that one guy-

    30. LGLuis J. Gomez52:49

        You were-
14. 56:50 – 1:14:53

    CTE, head trauma, and why casual boxing is deceptively dangerous

    1. JRJoe Rogan56:50

       Boxing is... The problem with it as a casual thing, though, is the punches that don't even hurt you, they just r- rattle your head a little, those all count. All, all those count. And those are probably sometimes worse.

    2. LGLuis J. Gomez57:01

       Yeah.

    3. JRJoe Rogan57:01

       Because there's so many of them, you don't even notice. Like, if you get hit with one big shot, you'll stop. Like, your, your head gets rattled, you get a headache, you sit down, you're like, "Oh, fuck." But you'll stop. If you get hit a few times, you treat it like it's nothing. You just get popped a few times.

    4. LGLuis J. Gomez57:16

       Yeah.

    5. JRJoe Rogan57:16

       You're in there, you get hit.

    6. LGLuis J. Gomez57:18

       30 seconds later, you got a bloody nose.

    7. JRJoe Rogan57:19

       Yeah.

    8. LGLuis J. Gomez57:19

       Your lip's bleeding a little now.

    9. JRJoe Rogan57:20

       Yeah.

    10. LGLuis J. Gomez57:20

        You got something over your eye.

    11. JRJoe Rogan57:21

        You don't think about it, but you got hit in the head 30 times.

    12. LGLuis J. Gomez57:24

        Yeah.

    13. JRJoe Rogan57:24

        Like, you never got dropped, so you're like, "I'm fine. I didn't take any damage." But you did. You just don't... You don't think of that as damage. And now they're understanding that that is... As much of what you're seeing from CTE is that subconcussive trauma, probably more so because it's so frequent.

    14. LGLuis J. Gomez57:37

        Yeah, well, over and over again.

    15. JRJoe Rogan57:39

        Yeah, man.

    16. LGLuis J. Gomez57:39

        You know?

    17. JRJoe Rogan57:39

        They say everything, man. Dr. Mark Gordon said, fucking, uh, jet skis. He said the banging of jet skis (imitates banging) when you're humping away. He's like, "That's terrible for your fucking head." Like, how about Angus Young from AC/DC? I'd like to do an I2- IQ test on that fucking savage.

    18. LGLuis J. Gomez57:55

        Just, just, just fucking banging his head in and kicking his leg out?

    19. JRJoe Rogan57:58

        And, and, uh, I'd like to do an MRI to see, like, how maybe his... The fibers of his brain strengthened from 100 years of headbanging.

    20. LGLuis J. Gomez58:04

        Maybe. I used to go to, like, metal concerts and go to mosh pits. I was, like, a big metal head when I was a kid. And, uh, yeah, we would just fucking...

    21. JRJoe Rogan58:11

        Yeah, you get brain damage.

    22. LGLuis J. Gomez58:12

        You just go in there and start swinging your hands, get punched, get... And you're, you're right. You don't think about it. The amount of, like... Just headbanging.

    23. JRJoe Rogan58:17

        Yeah.

    24. LGLuis J. Gomez58:18

        Just banging your head over and over again, your brain is just smacking into the front of your fucking face over and over and over again.

    25. JRJoe Rogan58:23

        Give me some AC/DC, Jamie.

    26. NANarrator58:25

        I'm looking right now. He's not headbanging though.

    27. JRJoe Rogan58:27

        Angus would, on stage, play and headbang at the same time.

    28. LGLuis J. Gomez58:31

        Yeah.

    29. JRJoe Rogan58:31

        Like, try rubbing the top of your head-

    30. LGLuis J. Gomez58:35

        (laughs)

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