Joe Rogan Experience #1277 - Gabrielle Reece

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   ... all. …

   1. GRGabrielle Reece0:00

      ... all.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:05

      Two, one, and we're live. Hello, Gabby.

   3. GRGabrielle Reece0:09

      Hello. How are you, Joe?

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:10

      Good. Thanks for being here. I appreciate it.

   5. GRGabrielle Reece0:12

      Thank you for having me. You're looking well.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      Thank you. You are as well. I, uh, I really enjoy following you on Instagram. You, you have a very positive Instagram page. It's full of-

   7. GRGabrielle Reece0:19

      (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      ... information. It's beneficial. It's great stuff.

   9. GRGabrielle Reece0:22

      Thanks. I, uh, you know, I, I'm, I feel like I'm trying to figure that out. Like, for a younger person, it's like, "Oh, yeah. Well, this is how you do it." And for me, I'm like, "Well, what do you really wanna say?" And I don't know. I, I think sometimes I, I would like to take more chances, but I do play it probably safe.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       How so? Like, in what way?

   11. GRGabrielle Reece0:41

       Mm. I try to be pretty honest, but sometimes you're always very aware that you just... I'm not interested in getting roasted or spending a lot of time and energy in a, a hassle with somebody.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:53

       Mm.

   13. GRGabrielle Reece0:53

       So I think when I'm doing it, I'm as honest as I can be, but I'm, it's also I'm aware of that.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:59

       What do you hold back on? Like, what kind of stuff?

   15. GRGabrielle Reece1:03

       I think for me it would just maybe just be more, even maybe more direct.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:08

       Mm.

   17. GRGabrielle Reece1:08

       But you're, you know, I think it, when you're try, when you sort of say, "Okay, I'm gonna occupy this space professionally," that, um, feels good to me, and like, I want it to be overall pretty positive. You know?

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:22

       Yeah.

   19. GRGabrielle Reece1:22

       Like if you're selling something, like maybe I like to try to sell something positive, but hopefully towards the honest a little bit.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:28

       Right.

   21. GRGabrielle Reece1:28

       And sometimes when you're doing that, you're also aware that, like, you're not as harsh as sometimes your inner voice is. And so you go, "Well, am I not being as completely honest and transparent because I don't really wanna deal with it?" And I, so I'm just saying, yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:45

       'Cause you don't wanna deal with feedback comments?

   23. GRGabrielle Reece1:47

       Yeah, and it's, and it's also just people who are frustrated or, or, or also they're not getting maybe the nuance or the subtlety of what I'm trying to say. Let's just-

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:56

       Mm.

   25. GRGabrielle Reece1:56

       ... say that social media is not the place for-

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:59

       Subtlety and nuance.

   27. GRGabrielle Reece2:00

       No.

   28. JRJoe Rogan2:00

       Not in the comments, for sure, right?

   29. GRGabrielle Reece2:02

       Right. So I just, I, I wanna do stuff that seems like, that seems authentic, you know, pretty real, but hopefully skewed towards, like, either fun or something positive.

   30. JRJoe Rogan2:12

       Mm. One of the things that I've recognized from doing a podcast is that, uh, some of the frustration when people do lash out-
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yes. …

   1. GRGabrielle Reece15:00

      Uh, no.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      Yes.

   3. GRGabrielle Reece15:00

      I think... (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:02

      (laughs)

   5. GRGabrielle Reece15:02

      No, listen. It's a, uh, li- it's a surrender.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:05

      Mm-hmm.

   7. GRGabrielle Reece15:05

      I think for me it's been a real surrender, 'cause I- I just think y- I... You think you're in control of stuff and you think, "Oh, I've got some discipline and work ethic. I can just work my way through it or power my way through it," and then you realize like, no, you have to surrender and s- and also, it's not just about solving it quickly and, um... Yeah, it is... I'm... I know myself certainly better, but also it forces you, if you're willing to, to really expand.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:34

      Yeah.

   9. GRGabrielle Reece15:34

      And it's un- it is uncomfortable.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:37

       Well, I've b- I've been really fascinated by the life that you guys live in Hawaii. That-

   11. GRGabrielle Reece15:42

       Mm-hmm.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:42

       ... y- it's... Because I've always had this, like, idealized ide- like, one day, like m- move to the Big Island, just chill on the side of a mountain, stop fucking around, fly out to do gigs, but live out there where everything's just g- more relaxed.

   13. GRGabrielle Reece15:56

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:56

       You know? Is it okay?

   15. GRGabrielle Reece15:58

       You know, i- there's a lot going on and like, the Big Island is obviously big.

   16. JRJoe Rogan16:02

       That's a city.

   17. GRGabrielle Reece16:03

       Yeah. No, it's big.

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:04

       Almo- well, not the Big Island or whatever. Hawaii.

   19. GRGabrielle Reece16:05

       Yeah, Oahu has... It's sort of like LA on the beach, but-

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:09

       Yeah.

   21. GRGabrielle Reece16:09

       ... you know, there's a couple things. I think because it is a primal environment, like we live on Kauai, which is pr- pretty heavy duty as far as, um... It's quiet, there's not a lot of distraction. There's a really im- heavy duty nature and, um... And so I... and I grew up in- in St. Thomas on the Virgin Islands, so I was used to kind of being on an island, but it... You're- you're with yourself a lot. So if you have things to do that are, you know, productive, then it's perfect. Um, but what you have to always calibrate is like, um, the downtime or it... Like, it's been raining off and on for like over a year on Kauai.

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:51

       Whoa.

   23. GRGabrielle Reece16:52

       Yeah. So after a while, it'll be like Seattle in that way, where people... it starts getting heavy.

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:57

       But it's sunny too, right?

   25. GRGabrielle Reece16:58

       It can be. And-

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:59

       That's the weirdest thing about the islands-

   27. GRGabrielle Reece17:01

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan17:01

       ... is that there's different climates on this island. Like the Big Island has desert.

   29. GRGabrielle Reece17:07

       Yes.

   30. JRJoe Rogan17:07

       It has tropical rainforest.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Jesus. …

   1. GRGabrielle Reece30:00

      wave on Kauai where they're going over f- you know, 50... They go about 50... They can go up, get up to 52 miles an hour.

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:07

      Jesus.

   3. GRGabrielle Reece30:08

      So imagine if you did something... Well, you've, you know, dedicated yourself to martial arts. It's like... But then there's, like, a new way to do it.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:16

      Oh.

   5. GRGabrielle Reece30:16

      And so he's been doing the big stuff for 25 years, but now they're getting the equipment right that he can ride waves that w- actually wouldn't be that great-But now they're super fun.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:27

      Oh, wow.

   7. GRGabrielle Reece30:27

      So he gets, it makes him excited and he still pursues it. And, uh, that's on, that's on Kauai right there. And see how it's not even breaking where he rides it?

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:36

      Yeah.

   9. GRGabrielle Reece30:37

      So it ca-

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:37

       No drag.

   11. GRGabrielle Reece30:38

       Correct. And it's, it's actually riding the energy below the surface, which y- you know, for him, he's just interested in what's the most efficient way... I mean, look at that. You'd never int- in, um, regular surfing be able to, um, ride that.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:56

       Wow.

   13. GRGabrielle Reece30:57

       So it enables them-

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:58

       That looks like so much fun. (laughs)

   15. GRGabrielle Reece31:00

       You're flying. That's what they say.

   16. JRJoe Rogan31:01

       That's incredible.

   17. GRGabrielle Reece31:02

       That's what, it's the difference, right? So they're flying. So that's I think keep- kept him interested. But, you know, his, his pursuit of this is, it's pretty, it's pretty, it's a pretty interesting relationship to watch. I think it's important, I mean, as a female, uh, for me, I think playing volleyball helped me understand like having a pursuit. You know, like something like you, I gotta go do that. And I think it's something about living with a person who has a pursuit other than, um, like I need a bigger war chest or whatever.

   18. JRJoe Rogan31:38

       Right.

   19. GRGabrielle Reece31:38

       That's can be really cool.

   20. JRJoe Rogan31:40

       Is... When, when you're f- riding that thing and there's the little airplane under the water-

   21. GRGabrielle Reece31:47

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:47

       ... is there any risk of something thinking that airplane is a fish?

   23. GRGabrielle Reece31:51

       Um, y- y- no. Animals are pretty smart.

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:54

       Are they?

   25. GRGabrielle Reece31:55

       Yeah. I don't, I think, I mean, I know sharks don't have great vision. And, um, I think Laird has, uh, you know, hit, uh, a hone- a turtle, l- you know, not d- done anything-

   26. JRJoe Rogan32:05

       Accidentally.

   27. GRGabrielle Reece32:05

       ... but like grazed it or something.

   28. JRJoe Rogan32:07

       Mm-hmm.

   29. GRGabrielle Reece32:07

       But those animals are pretty smart.

   30. JRJoe Rogan32:10

       Well, but I was thinking of sharks.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Whoa. …

   1. GRGabrielle Reece45:00

      "And I'm gonna eat, and then the rest of the time I'm not going to."

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:03

      Whoa.

   3. GRGabrielle Reece45:03

      So it's, it's very close. It's just sort of one more twist they can put on it. I think it's like A-T-O-P-O-

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:09

      Mm.

   5. GRGabrielle Reece45:10

      ... you know.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:10

      So that's a 20-hour fasted window every day.

   7. GRGabrielle Reece45:14

      Yeah. And I have a friend who was doing it pretty regularly and he st- he looked different.

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:18

      Really?

   9. GRGabrielle Reece45:19

      Yeah. He sh-

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:19

       In a good way?

   11. GRGabrielle Reece45:20

       Yeah. No, he did. He shifted his body composition a little bit. And, um, it was interesting. And there's some interesting data. I'm sure Jamie can give you the download on it.

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:29

       Hmm.

   13. GRGabrielle Reece45:29

       Um, yeah, autophagy, it's just sorta like one notch higher. It's not fun, but I, you know, like for me it would have to be kinda, I would wanna eat between 1:00 and 5:00.

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:42

       Yeah.

   15. GRGabrielle Reece45:42

       I could do without it the rest of the time. Um, and you can have, like I said, caffeine and water.

   16. JRJoe Rogan45:47

       It's incredible m- what a pull mouth pleasure has. Like my kids bought these Entenmann's cupcakes. They're this-

   17. GRGabrielle Reece45:54

       Entenmann's, that's like old school, yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan45:55

       Yeah, old school. But they are bullshit, these cupcakes.

   19. GRGabrielle Reece45:57

       What? (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan45:58

       They're like those, uh, those chocolate frosted things-

   21. GRGabrielle Reece46:01

       Oh yeah, with, with the white on top?

   22. JRJoe Rogan46:02

       Yes. Yeah, yeah.

   23. GRGabrielle Reece46:02

       Oh, yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:02

       With the little white squiggly.

   25. GRGabrielle Reece46:03

       Mm-hmm.

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:03

       And the inside is, uh, cream-filled. Goddamn, it was delicious. But while I was eating it I was like, "What the fuck are you eating, man? This is all nonsense."

   27. GRGabrielle Reece46:11

       But s-

   28. JRJoe Rogan46:11

       "You shouldn't even be touching this."

   29. GRGabrielle Reece46:12

       No, but you can't do that. I think once you, 'cause we eat pretty strict. Laird's a little more strict than I am. Um, I think if you're gonna eat that cupcake, you-

   30. JRJoe Rogan46:22

       Enjoy it.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:08:50

   Mm-hmm. …

   1. GRGabrielle Reece1:00:00

      on the north didn't really.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:01

      Mm-hmm.

   3. GRGabrielle Reece1:00:01

      So I started, uh, doing that, like, three days a week to get people. There was, like, 100 of us at the same time.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:08

      Oh, that's pretty cool.

   5. GRGabrielle Reece1:00:08

      It was su-... It was really cool. Uh, but, but 'cause they don't have stuff to... They don't have really great facilities.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:16

      What a weird place to live.

   7. GRGabrielle Reece1:00:18

      Is it?

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:18

      It's kinda badass.

   9. GRGabrielle Reece1:00:19

      But don't you think, like... When I go to New York City with Laird, he looks there and he looks at the buildings and he's like, "Why do people do this to themselves?" Like-

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:25

       (laughs)

   11. GRGabrielle Reece1:00:25

       ... we've gotten twisted around. Like, you're like, "Kauai, what a weird place to live."

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:29

       Right.

   13. GRGabrielle Reece1:00:30

       But in a way, it's probably closer to how we're meant to live than-

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:35

       Oh, for sure.

   15. GRGabrielle Reece1:00:35

       ... you know, stacked up on top of, of each other. But having said that, um, yeah, compared to the other parts of the world. I mean, and it's remote. Like, you're out there. It's... I think besides Easter Island, it's, like, the most remote place in the world.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:48

       Wow.

   17. GRGabrielle Reece1:00:50

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:00:51

       Really? That's interesting. Well, it makes sense.

   19. GRGabrielle Reece1:00:53

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:00:53

       Yeah.

   21. GRGabrielle Reece1:00:54

       It's far. I mean, you know, they navigated there and, uh, they said that the water l-... sea level was lower so that they could see more land-

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:01:02

       Mm-hmm.

   23. GRGabrielle Reece1:01:02

       ... when the Polynesians sailed there, but it's pretty, uh... It's a pretty interesting contrast to living, like, in Malibu, let's say.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:11

       Yeah.

   25. GRGabrielle Reece1:01:11

       But then in a way not, because you're surrounded by nature.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:14

       Right. Yeah, I, I think it's probably a far more healthy way to live. I just, I just know that a lot of people do get that island fever-

   27. GRGabrielle Reece1:01:21

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:22

       ... and they, they can't take it, they wanna get the fuck off.

   29. GRGabrielle Reece1:01:24

       Yeah, and like if... when you have a family, like when my kids were young, it's like you're doing the same thing; you're taking them places, you're making dinners, you're making lunches. So in a way you're just doing sort of everyday things in a really pretty place.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:34

       Mm-hmm.

Episode duration: 2:29:03