Joe Rogan Experience #1278 - Kevin Hart

1. 0:00 – 1:26

   Intro

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:02

      Here we go in five, four, three, two, one. Yes. Out of all the fucking people-

   2. KHKevin Hart0:12

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      ... that make me feel lazy in this world, there's two-

   4. KHKevin Hart0:14

      Okay. (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      ... that make me feel ... You-

   6. KHKevin Hart0:16

      Uh-huh.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      ... and the Rock.

   8. KHKevin Hart0:17

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      You fuckers don't look like you ever sleep, man.

   10. KHKevin Hart0:19

       I know, I know. No days off. That's why I love his unattractive ass. He's, uh-

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:24

       (laughs)

   12. KHKevin Hart0:24

       (laughs) He's, uh, he, he's a person that, that motivates me and inspires me. And the fact that we're, we're coworkers, we're friends, um, I think it's a, I think it's like a, it's a blessing. It's a blessing to be around that.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       Yeah.

   14. KHKevin Hart0:39

       Because it truly ... It's, it's uplifting, you know? It makes you ... It just makes you weed out the circle. When you're around people that truly give you like, uh, give you some good-

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       Mm-hmm.

   16. KHKevin Hart0:50

       ... serve a good value to you and your life, you then look at those that don't. And you can, you can then push away. So I'm big on, I'm big on personality. I'm big on energy. I'm big on will and wants. Uh, I believe that it's contagious. So if you have a, a bunch of laziness and a bunch of bullshit around, you naturally, it's gonna feed off. You're gonna find yourself becoming what's in your environment, so.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:16

       I feel the exact same way. And when I see a guy like him-

   18. KHKevin Hart1:19

       I see that though. Uh, I see that in you.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:20

       I see that in you.

   20. KHKevin Hart1:20

       That's right. (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:22

       (laughs) I feel like it's that scene in Avatar.

   22. KHKevin Hart1:24

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:24

       I see you.

   24. KHKevin Hart1:24

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:25

       I see you.

2. 1:26 – 5:42

   Sleep

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:26

      Yeah, but a guy like that, like I always wonder like how much of that is ... Like I've had sleep experts-

   2. KHKevin Hart1:30

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:31

      ... on the podcast that tell you, like, like there's real problems if you don't get enough sleep.

   4. KHKevin Hart1:34

      Mm-hmm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:34

      Like you could, you have a much higher risk of Alzheimer's-

   6. KHKevin Hart1:37

      Mm-hmm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:37

      ... and all these other serious issues. But I see a guy like the Rock, I'm like, "How the fuck does he sleep?"

   8. KHKevin Hart1:42

      Well-

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:42

      Where's the room for sleep?

   10. KHKevin Hart1:43

       You know, that, that's true. I can't say that I'm, that I've witnessed the sleep patterns. But he's a, he's a late ass, so he does. I know he's sleeping at some point.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:55

       (laughs) 'Cause he gets these shows late.

   12. KHKevin Hart1:55

       Because it's like, "What are we waiting on? What are we waiting on, DJ?"

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:58

       (laughs)

   14. KHKevin Hart1:58

       God damn it. He's-

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:59

       Yeah.

   16. KHKevin Hart1:59

       He's probably getting his, his rest, which is well deserved. Um, but, you know, when you, when you say you had these sleep experts and stuff on, it's always a, a thing that I go back and forth about because, what is enough sleep? Like I'm a person, I function high off of six to seven hours.

   17. JRJoe Rogan2:17

       Yeah.

   18. KHKevin Hart2:17

       Six, seven hours, I'm, I'm functioning.

   19. JRJoe Rogan2:20

       Yeah.

   20. KHKevin Hart2:20

       Five hours, I'm great. Do I do the five-hour thing all the time? No. But if I have to, I'm fine. Um, I don't need the 8:00 and the 9:00.

   21. JRJoe Rogan2:30

       Hmm.

   22. KHKevin Hart2:30

       I feel like that's too much for me. Like I'm, I'm, I'm an early riser. And now that I'm getting older, you know, if I can get in that bed by 9:30 or 10:00 on a off work day, I'm very happy with that. But then I'm up at 5:30.

   23. JRJoe Rogan2:44

       Right.

   24. KHKevin Hart2:44

       I'm up at 5:00. So what is enough sleep? What do they tell you is enough sleep?

   25. JRJoe Rogan2:47

       It really depends on the person. There are people that have a gene where they can just sleep four hours a night and they're fine.

   26. KHKevin Hart2:53

       I got that.

   27. JRJoe Rogan2:53

       You might not.

   28. KHKevin Hart2:54

       I got that.

   29. JRJoe Rogan2:54

       (laughs)

   30. KHKevin Hart2:54

       Is that a disea- ... What is that? What is a-
3. 5:42 – 10:25

   The Phone

   1. KHKevin Hart5:42

      between.

   2. JRJoe Rogan5:42

      That's fantastic. That's so important.

   3. KHKevin Hart5:45

      It's 100%.

   4. JRJoe Rogan5:45

      That's beautiful.

   5. KHKevin Hart5:46

      100% true.

   6. JRJoe Rogan5:46

      How do you figure that out? That's gigantic.

   7. KHKevin Hart5:48

      I think I figured it out.

   8. JRJoe Rogan5:49

      That's it, man. If you c-

   9. KHKevin Hart5:50

      I think I figured it out.

   10. JRJoe Rogan5:51

       Y- you mean, you've got so much success. It's not like you have to be with that fucking phone all the time.

   11. KHKevin Hart5:55

       Mm-hmm.

   12. JRJoe Rogan5:56

       That's, that, that's ... The phone is the big one, right?

   13. KHKevin Hart5:58

       Well, the phone, the phone is, is the gift and the curse.

   14. JRJoe Rogan6:01

       Mm-hmm.

   15. KHKevin Hart6:01

       You know, I think that we, we shot out the gate and saw the gift.... oh my God, it's- it's- it's community, it's connecting us, we're able to share, we're able to meet new people, we're- we're able to stay in communication with- with old people, find new people. As a entertainer, I can engage with my fans and this is so dope. And then after that, you get hit with the- the curse, and the curse is there's a- there's a high level of negativity that's out there that's on that shit. You know? There's- there's a lot of people that are, you know, not happy, or- or going through things, and they interject a- a certain amount of negativity and hatred through these devices.

   16. JRJoe Rogan6:48

       Yeah.

   17. KHKevin Hart6:48

       These devices are the easiest way to touch everybody, so when you're just consumed on that shit all day, you start to see yourself being a part of the negative shit.

   18. JRJoe Rogan6:59

       Yeah.

   19. KHKevin Hart7:00

       So, what I've learned to do is go, "Ah, i- i- i don't- I don't need to see that. I don't need to see that shit."

   20. JRJoe Rogan7:04

       Yeah.

   21. KHKevin Hart7:04

       "I don't- I don't pay that any mind. I don't read that shit. For what? It's not- it's not helping me, it's not making me better, it's not- it's not, uh, pushing me to new limits. If anything, it's taking up just creative space by me literally spending time going and- and- and navigating through what I think is- is a bunch of bullshit."

   22. JRJoe Rogan7:25

       Yeah.

   23. KHKevin Hart7:26

       So, I don't let the device beat me.

   24. JRJoe Rogan7:28

       (laughs)

   25. KHKevin Hart7:28

       And at one point, I definitely did. At one point, it was everything. It was everything. It was ... you know. Now, I separated. I know when -

   26. JRJoe Rogan7:35

       How'd you break clear of it? What- what- you-

   27. KHKevin Hart7:36

       When you realize what it is (laughs) . When you see- when you see the bad, you know, when you see the bad side of it. I- I thought the other day, this is some real shit and it really made me think. My phone died. My phone died and I'm driving, and I was using the fucking maps and I was like, "Oh, shit. What the fuck? How I'ma get to where ... (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan7:59

       (laughs)

   29. KHKevin Hart7:59

       I don't know where I'm going." And I sat and I was like, "Yo, how did we- how did we get from point A to point B before the map shit? What- what were we doing that ... I used to print out directions from Google Maps, I remember that, but then before that, how did you get to the places where you were going that you didn't know how to get to? I don't even remember."

   30. JRJoe Rogan8:20

       Do you remember Thomas Guides? Did you ever have a Thomas Guide?
4. 10:25 – 12:28

   The Next Level

   1. KHKevin Hart10:25

      that.

   2. JRJoe Rogan10:25

      Are you worried about what comes next?

   3. KHKevin Hart10:27

      100%.

   4. JRJoe Rogan10:28

      I'm worried that something is gonna be way more intrusive than that.

   5. KHKevin Hart10:31

      It's- it's ... What do you mean? It's already happening.

   6. JRJoe Rogan10:32

      Yeah.

   7. KHKevin Hart10:33

      The biggest scare happened already with the- the- the FaceTime shit that happened where-

   8. JRJoe Rogan10:39

      What happened?

   9. KHKevin Hart10:39

      Well, Apple, uh, on the iPhones, it was like people could listen into your-

   10. JRJoe Rogan10:44

       Oh yeah, if you didn't even pick up, they could FaceTime you?

   11. KHKevin Hart10:46

       Yeah, they could just listen into it.

   12. JRJoe Rogan10:47

       Yeah, yeah.

   13. KHKevin Hart10:47

       And, you know, that was the scariest shit ever.

   14. JRJoe Rogan10:50

       Yeah.

   15. KHKevin Hart10:50

       Because it's- if it's that easy to have a bug like that, what's the thing that's not a bug that's there that you just don't know about?

   16. JRJoe Rogan10:58

       Oh, there's definitely government listening to us right now.

   17. KHKevin Hart11:00

       100%.

   18. JRJoe Rogan11:00

       Yeah.

   19. KHKevin Hart11:01

       100%.

   20. JRJoe Rogan11:01

       Recording everything everybody says, and then in case one day you do something wrong-

   21. KHKevin Hart11:06

       They go back to you.

   22. JRJoe Rogan11:06

       ... they pull you aside, "Mr. Hart, we would like you to sit down for a minute."

   23. KHKevin Hart11:08

       100%.

   24. JRJoe Rogan11:08

       Yeah. "We're gonna play you something." Yeah.

   25. KHKevin Hart11:11

       So, the fear is the next level of, uh-

   26. JRJoe Rogan11:16

       Immersion.

   27. KHKevin Hart11:16

       ... intrusive. You know?

   28. JRJoe Rogan11:18

       Yeah, yeah.

   29. KHKevin Hart11:18

       I think everything has become intrusive now. Like, the toughest thing for me is that there is no- there is no privacy outside my home.

   30. JRJoe Rogan11:27

       Right.
5. 12:28 – 14:29

   Losing Privacy

   1. KHKevin Hart12:28

   2. JRJoe Rogan12:28

      No, I feel it too. And I, uh, es- especially, i- I mean, what you're talking about is you being super famous and losing all your privacy, but everyone's losing their privacy.

   3. KHKevin Hart12:36

      Yeah, yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan12:37

      Slowly but surely. It's, it's happening to you because you're very famous-

   5. KHKevin Hart12:41

      Mm-hmm.

   6. JRJoe Rogan12:41

      ... and because you do something that's in the public eye-

   7. KHKevin Hart12:43

      Mm-hmm.

   8. JRJoe Rogan12:43

      ... and people wanna see you and they wanna stick their camera in front of you. But there's gonna come a point in time where what we're dealing with now, which is like, you have to turn your phone on, you have to, you know, you have to reach out to somebody, you have to put something up, that's, that step's gonna be out of the way.

   9. KHKevin Hart12:59

      Mm-hmm.

   10. JRJoe Rogan12:59

       And it's just gonna be people being able to access your life.

   11. KHKevin Hart13:01

       Yeah. Pretty sp- you know, you know the bad... Here's what I'll say that's bad, that really fucks with me. (clicks tongue) I don't like that negativity is the, the want.

   12. JRJoe Rogan13:16

       Yeah.

   13. KHKevin Hart13:17

       Like, like, the, the thing that's popular is the failure. The, the fuck up.

   14. JRJoe Rogan13:24

       Mm-hmm.

   15. KHKevin Hart13:24

       You know? The, the fight that I can catch.

   16. JRJoe Rogan13:28

       Yeah.

   17. KHKevin Hart13:28

       The hateful moment that I can catch and post. Like, the bad is being highlighted and celebrated. That's what fucks with me with the social media shit now. What, what really bothers me is, you know, when you see these things online, like, you know, uh, a fight and there's a man hitting a woman and it's captured.

   18. JRJoe Rogan13:50

       Right.

   19. KHKevin Hart13:51

       That's bad. The bad thing is that you watched. That the, the video was more important than the actual help-

   20. JRJoe Rogan13:59

       Right.

   21. KHKevin Hart13:59

       ... or the moment to step in. And, you know, when you see these things where you're catching people do these things to kids and it's caught, the moment of what you got and what you wanna post and get likes or whatever on is the focus instead of the help.

   22. JRJoe Rogan14:17

       Yeah.

   23. KHKevin Hart14:17

       And that, and that's, that's the part that is just ... I just have a hard time processing. I have a hard time processing what the likes mean to certain people.

   24. JRJoe Rogan14:28

       Well,

6. 14:29 – 17:07

   Getting Attention

   1. JRJoe Rogan14:29

      you get an extraordinary amount of attention, so it d- it doesn't mean anything to you-

   2. KHKevin Hart14:33

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan14:33

      ... the way it means something to a regular person.

   4. KHKevin Hart14:34

      Mm-hmm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan14:35

      But for a regular person, if they can catch some WorldStar video and put it up, they're like, "Dude, that's my video."

   6. KHKevin Hart14:40

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan14:40

      "That's my video. Look, my video got five million hits."

   8. KHKevin Hart14:43

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan14:43

      "My video has gone viral. My video's-"

   10. KHKevin Hart14:45

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan14:45

       "... everywhere." For them, it's like, it's a point of excitement. That's why when they see you, they're like, "Oh, shit." How often are they gonna run into Kevin Hart at, you know, Costco, or wherever the fuck you were? How, how often?

   12. KHKevin Hart14:55

       I've definitely run in, run into me on a, uh, you know, I'm in a, I'm in a bathroom, um, restaurant, and I go to the bathroom, you know. By the way that I went to the bathroom, you could definitely tell I had to shit.

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:07

       (laughs)

   14. KHKevin Hart15:07

       I was, I was moving fast. (laughs) I was, you know, it was one of those abrupt-

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:11

       (laughs)

   16. KHKevin Hart15:12

       ... you know, while you're eating, and-

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:13

       Like, "Uh-oh."

   18. KHKevin Hart15:13

       ... uh, yeah. I'm eating bad, so I didn't eat bad in a while. My stomach immediately said, "This is not gonna happen today." (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:19

       (laughs)

   20. KHKevin Hart15:19

       So I get up and I go, and literally, like, like three seconds, I, I hear it as I'm walking, "Oh, there go Kev Hart," and as I'm walking by, a guy gets up, follows me in the bathroom, and he's like, "Yo, I gotta get a picture, man." And I said, "Let me, let me go to the bathroom. When I'm done, I'll take a picture with you." I go to the bathroom. This is a true story, hand on the Bible.

   21. JRJoe Rogan15:44

       (laughs)

   22. KHKevin Hart15:44

       Hand on the Bible. I assume the guy is outside the bathroom, 'cause I ... As I'm going, I see him and I say what I say. I get done, I go to the sink, wash my hands, he was just sitting behind the wall and he's, like, got his phone out. And I'm like, "He probably ... Did he just take me while I was shitting? Did he-"

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:02

       (laughs)

   24. KHKevin Hart16:02

       "... did he put the phone over the thing? What? Oh, Jesus." Like, I'm about to be on ... Oh my God, it's over. This is it. This is my nightmare. Here we go."

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:11

       (laughs)

   26. KHKevin Hart16:11

       "They're about to put something up of me shitting. It's the bottom of my feet, it's whatever."

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:16

       Yeah, yeah.

   28. KHKevin Hart16:17

       But he just waited and, and that moment was so, it was so important that he was in the bathroom. And th- and as soon as I got up, "Come on, let's take a n-" I said, "Let's go outside the bathroom."

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:27

       Yeah.

   30. KHKevin Hart16:28

       "Let's take a picture. It's a bathroom." I said, "I'm not-"
7. 17:07 – 18:25

   Autographs

   1. KHKevin Hart17:07

   2. JRJoe Rogan17:07

      Yeah, that didn't exist before. I think if you were famous before, people just wanted to get an autograph or shake your hand.

   3. KHKevin Hart17:12

      We're pas- we're past the autograph stage.

   4. JRJoe Rogan17:14

      When was the last time you got an autograph?

   5. KHKevin Hart17:16

      It's been a while.

   6. JRJoe Rogan17:17

      (laughs) They don't come to you?

   7. KHKevin Hart17:17

      It's been a while. I don't think I-

   8. JRJoe Rogan17:19

      They don't come up?

   9. KHKevin Hart17:19

      ... I don't think I would know how to write it.

   10. JRJoe Rogan17:20

       (laughs)

   11. KHKevin Hart17:21

       I w- I don't think I would know what to put down. It's been a minute, man.

   12. JRJoe Rogan17:23

       Yeah.

   13. KHKevin Hart17:24

       And I don't, and I wanna make this very clear, you know, it's not-

   14. JRJoe Rogan17:26

       You're not complaining.

   15. KHKevin Hart17:27

       ... I don't, I don't knock it.

   16. JRJoe Rogan17:28

       Yeah, yeah.

   17. KHKevin Hart17:28

       You know? I understand. Like, and once again, I want people to, more importantly, understand the fact that I welcome it.

   18. JRJoe Rogan17:35

       Yeah.

   19. KHKevin Hart17:35

       I welcome the moment that I can talk and, and converse with a fan. But it should be that, like it's-

   20. JRJoe Rogan17:42

       Normal.

   21. KHKevin Hart17:42

       ... nothing-

   22. JRJoe Rogan17:43

       Like two people.

   23. KHKevin Hart17:43

       Yeah, the, the moments-

   24. JRJoe Rogan17:44

       Yeah.

   25. KHKevin Hart17:44

       ... are better when they're real, you know? And after a real moment, you, you get a picture because you're like, "Yo, he was actually a nice guy." Or, "I, I had no idea that, that you would be this calm and cool." You don't even get to see how genuine of a person I am, because the first thing you do, you, you, you stick the camera in the face. You ... And that's when people think that you're an asshole, 'cause they, they, they, they have the intrusive moment that then gets met with a, "Can you, can you please? I'm sorry. You didn't have to-"

   26. JRJoe Rogan18:16

       Yeah.

   27. KHKevin Hart18:16

       "... stick it in my face. Damn, you ain't gotta be like that. Wait, wait a minute."

   28. JRJoe Rogan18:19

       Oh, they look for that too.

   29. KHKevin Hart18:20

       Yeah. Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan18:21

       They look to turn on you.
8. 18:25 – 19:40

   Negative Moments

   1. KHKevin Hart18:25

   2. JRJoe Rogan18:25

      When did shit start getting weird for you? Like how many years in?

   3. KHKevin Hart18:28

      Um ...... i don't know, it's been, it's been pretty crazy. It's been pretty crazy for like the last four to five, the last four to five years. And the last three, you know, it has gotten insane because now, you know, you're, you're on an international level.

   4. JVJamie Vernon18:43

      Mm-hmm. Yeah.

   5. KHKevin Hart18:44

      So, it's, it's global and the following is, is bigger.

   6. JVJamie Vernon18:48

      (clears throat)

   7. KHKevin Hart18:48

      Um, and it's all ages which is, which is really, really good. But I think, you know, for comedians it's a different thing because you feel like you know comedians, you know? You're laughing, we're in your homes, everything is met with warmth. So, when you see a comedian, especially if you're a fan of a comedian, you're associating everything with funny and you're just looking for the funny moment.

   8. JVJamie Vernon19:13

      Right.

   9. KHKevin Hart19:13

      You're, you're looking past the normal moment, you know? It's like you, you almost are frowned upon if you're normal, if you're just chill.

   10. JVJamie Vernon19:23

       Right, right, right.

   11. KHKevin Hart19:24

       'Cause everybody wants the funny moment.

   12. JVJamie Vernon19:25

       Right, they thought you were gonna be funny all the time.

   13. KHKevin Hart19:27

       Yeah, it's like I'm, I'm supposed to, I'm supposed to pop lock.

   14. JVJamie Vernon19:30

       (laughs)

   15. KHKevin Hart19:32

       You know, right on, right on site, you know?

   16. JVJamie Vernon19:33

       Yeah.

   17. KHKevin Hart19:33

       Like if it's 2:00 in the morning and you run into me and I say, "Hey, how you doing, man?" That's not enough.

9. 19:40 – 22:15

   Comedy Clubs

   1. JVJamie Vernon19:40

      When you work out your shit now-

   2. KHKevin Hart19:41

      Mm-hmm. (coughs)

   3. JVJamie Vernon19:42

      ... I've seen you at the Comedy Store but only once.

   4. KHKevin Hart19:45

      Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

   5. JVJamie Vernon19:45

      Like, where, where do you work out your shit?

   6. KHKevin Hart19:46

      I like to go to random comedy clubs, you know? I think I'll go to New York first. Uh, New York has always been a, a home, um, when it comes to building, uh, putting some structure within a set that you're trying to figure out.

   7. JVJamie Vernon20:01

      Mm-hmm.

   8. KHKevin Hart20:01

      Once I got a skeleton of what I wanna do, I'll just go to West Palm. Uh, I love that comedy club, the improv down there and I'll stay for-

   9. JVJamie Vernon20:09

      Oh, that place is great.

   10. KHKevin Hart20:09

       ... I'll stay for two weeks.

   11. JVJamie Vernon20:10

       Oh, really?

   12. KHKevin Hart20:11

       And just go and run through some jokes. I'll go to Utah, I'll go to Denver.

   13. JVJamie Vernon20:17

       You do the, like, Wise Guys?

   14. KHKevin Hart20:19

       Yeah.

   15. JVJamie Vernon20:19

       Yeah?

   16. KHKevin Hart20:19

       Yeah. I'll go to comedy clubs, just random comedy clubs that you wouldn't expect to see me at, but I'll do a hell of a run. And the goal is to get out of there with just a foundation.

   17. JVJamie Vernon20:28

       Mm-hmm.

   18. KHKevin Hart20:28

       It's not to have a complete set, i just wanna get a foundation. So, when I'm done getting a foundation, then I'll do a little comedy club run. I'll do a full comedy club run where I'll just put two or three months in and it's comedy club, comedy club, comedy club, and I'm doing seven shows a weekend.

   19. JVJamie Vernon20:46

       Mm-hmm.

   20. KHKevin Hart20:46

       And people are shocked that I'm there and that I'm doing it, but, you know, that's my, that's my gym, that's how I work. And I end up leaving that period of time with a complete set after the first three or four months that I spent. Now, after that comedy club, three or four months doing that run, then I'll take it to, like, a small theater and I'll see what my laughter feels like in a small theater and I'll do a little run in small theaters. And then when I finally feel like it's at a point where I'm getting the, the laugh consistently and the punchlines are working and I flipped it back frontwards, forward, every direction, and my story is a real rollercoaster and it has an ending where I feel like we get off the rollercoaster and we're happy, and you don't feel like you were there for an hour-

   21. JVJamie Vernon21:29

       Hmm.

   22. KHKevin Hart21:29

       ... is then when I go test it out in an arena. And if the arena, if it lasts or sounds the way it's supposed to, then I say, "Okay, I'm ready." If it doesn't, then I'll go back to small theaters and then I'll go to an arena again. So, not 'til that arena sounds the way it's supposed to-

   23. JVJamie Vernon21:43

       Oh.

   24. KHKevin Hart21:44

       ... do I say I'm going on tour. So sometimes it takes me about a year, a year and three months, a year and four months. You know, people don't understand how hard it is to develop an hour of standup material. You know, people act like you just turn on a new hour. It's, it's an hour. To get to an hour, you're going through four to five hours of bullshit that you thought was funny-

   25. JVJamie Vernon22:04

       Yeah.

   26. KHKevin Hart22:05

       ... to come up to that hour that you finally say this is gonna be the representation of me this year.

   27. JVJamie Vernon22:10

       Yeah.

   28. KHKevin Hart22:11

       It's a lot for me to do that, especially at this level, you know?

   29. JVJamie Vernon22:14

       Well, especially

10. 22:15 – 23:24

    Tour Schedule

    1. JVJamie Vernon22:15

       while you're always doing movies and you're always busy with a bunch of other stuff too.

    2. KHKevin Hart22:18

       It's tough, it's tough.

    3. JVJamie Vernon22:19

       You don't... Yeah. I mean, you don't take any breaks.

    4. KHKevin Hart22:21

       Well, I tour. I actually... You know, when I'm touring, if there's a movie, I make the movie schedule around the tour. So my shooting days will go Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, wrap Thursday, maybe have a show Thursday night, and then I'm going Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Sometimes no show Sunday, sometimes show Sunday, depending on what the work schedule and the workload for the following week would look like. So I'm implementing that in. So when I say I'm out, I'm out. I'm gone.

    5. JVJamie Vernon22:50

       Yeah.

    6. KHKevin Hart22:50

       So I knock that movie out in two months and then when I'm not, that tour schedule shifts, so the Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, dedicated to family, dedicated to the office, everything, then those weekends are touring.

    7. JVJamie Vernon23:02

       Wow.

    8. KHKevin Hart23:02

       But that tour lasts for a year and a half. I mean, this year we did 157 shows on my Irresponsible tour.

    9. JVJamie Vernon23:08

       Wow.

    10. KHKevin Hart23:09

        157 shows.

    11. JVJamie Vernon23:10

        Before you decided to put it on the Netflix special?

    12. KHKevin Hart23:12

        Yeah. We did the Netflix, the taping, I think I did it three weeks before we were done, so we were probably at 143 shows.

    13. JVJamie Vernon23:20

        Oh, wow.

    14. KHKevin Hart23:21

        Yeah. Then I taped it and finished the tour.

    15. JVJamie Vernon23:23

        Did you

11. 23:24 – 24:43

    Thought Out Individual

    1. JVJamie Vernon23:24

       always have this kind of structure? Like when did you... How did you design this?

    2. KHKevin Hart23:27

       I'm a thought out individual, man.

    3. JVJamie Vernon23:28

       Yeah, you seem like it. (laughs)

    4. KHKevin Hart23:29

       I'm a, I'm a well-thought-out individual. Everything is planned.

    5. JVJamie Vernon23:33

       Yeah, this is not random. Yeah.

    6. KHKevin Hart23:34

       No, everything is planned. If you look at all my standup specials, there's a two-year gap in between them. So-

    7. JVJamie Vernon23:39

       Mm-hmm.

    8. KHKevin Hart23:39

       ... the two-year gap is because at the end of that second year, my new special should be coming out. When that new special should be coming out, I'm now focusing on what the next special is gonna be. So that first year is all development. Like right now, I'm off, I'm not touring, but now I'm mentally in the gym and throwing all the old stuff that I talked about away. That's now thrown out. Can't repeat it, can't say it. Now it's talking about what the new version of myself is going to be. What do I want the conversation to be?

    9. JVJamie Vernon24:13

       Mm-hmm.

    10. KHKevin Hart24:13

        What's my thinking? And just taking notes. So eventually now, I'm gonna start just popping up at random comedy clubs and trying to figure out what the next thing is. So by mid, mid '20, I'll probably be doing comedy clubs. By the end of '20, I should have a full-fledged concept of that new hour. And by the beginning of '21, I should be ready to go out with my new hour.

    11. JVJamie Vernon24:37

        Mm-hmm.

    12. KHKevin Hart24:37

        End of '21-... film my new hour mid '22, that hour will come

12. 24:43 – 27:23

    The 2 Year Schedule

    1. KHKevin Hart24:43

       out.

    2. JRJoe Rogan24:43

       That seems like a schedule (clears throat) a lot of people are doing now, the two-year schedule. That's, uh-

    3. KHKevin Hart24:47

       It's a, it's a perfect get.

    4. JRJoe Rogan24:48

       Yeah. That's how I do it. I, I've, I know Louis C.K. did a year-

    5. KHKevin Hart24:51

       Mm-hmm.

    6. JRJoe Rogan24:51

       ... every year.

    7. KHKevin Hart24:51

       Mm-hmm.

    8. JRJoe Rogan24:52

       And George Carlin did every year. But I think even he said, it really wasn't the right way to do it.

    9. KHKevin Hart24:55

       That's tough. A year is tough.

    10. JRJoe Rogan24:58

        Yeah.

    11. KHKevin Hart24:58

        I mean, that's a, that's a... Shouts-out to those that can do it, I think that's amazing. Um, I think just for everything that I have going on and all of the different things that my hands are in, but then the brand, the business, I need to make sure that I'm giving 100% to those things so they have the highest opportunity to be successful.

    12. JRJoe Rogan25:18

        Right.

    13. KHKevin Hart25:19

        If I'm trying to cheat it, then it's gonna show.

    14. JRJoe Rogan25:22

        Yeah.

    15. KHKevin Hart25:22

        It's not gonna come out to the best of my ability. And, but then standup, you gotta, you got a fucking magnifying glass on you, you know? You're always being judged off of what you did at one point, just like a musician. You're always-

    16. JRJoe Rogan25:36

        Yeah.

    17. KHKevin Hart25:36

        ... judged off of the album that everybody thought was whatever. So the biggest thing for an entertainer, artist, whatever your craft is, is creation. How are you recreating yourself? How are you constantly showing that you're growing? For me, the only way to do that is to talk about my life and the things that grow along with me. The only thing that grows (laughs) along with me, my experiences, my family, my marriage, my mistakes, my ups, my downs. Those are the things that I can talk about forever, because as you get older, things change, shit gets different. But it's all coming from my personal opinion of me, my view on me and how I see life. You can't lose material in that state.

    18. JRJoe Rogan26:26

        Hmm.

    19. KHKevin Hart26:26

        That's why I stay away from certain things, because those things can become boring after a while for me, because I don't have the knowledge of everything that I should.

    20. JRJoe Rogan26:37

        Like what? What kind of things?

    21. KHKevin Hart26:38

        Well, politics.

    22. JRJoe Rogan26:38

        Oh.

    23. KHKevin Hart26:39

        I don't joke in-

    24. JRJoe Rogan26:40

        Yeah.

    25. KHKevin Hart26:40

        ... the politics. I don't, I don't joke in anything that has to do with the slander of others or other communities. I don't do anything divisive.

    26. JRJoe Rogan26:49

        Good for you.

    27. KHKevin Hart26:50

        That's my, that's my biggest thing. And, you know, uh, this past year was, was one that got a little weird because I was like, "Yo, I've really dedicated myself to bringing people together." Like, I'm-

    28. JRJoe Rogan27:03

        Mm-hmm.

    29. KHKevin Hart27:04

        I thought that was my, my goal, that's my priority. I damn sure thought that's what I was doing on a global scale. Everybody, all races, shapes, sizes, whoever you are, whatever you are, you can come to a Kevin Hart show and have a good time. So when it came off as if I was a person that was divisive, that was

13. 27:23 – 30:15

    The Oscar Awards

    1. KHKevin Hart27:23

       tough.

    2. JRJoe Rogan27:23

       You're talking about the Oscars shit?

    3. KHKevin Hart27:24

       The Oscars shit, yeah. Like, when they-

    4. JRJoe Rogan27:25

       Well, this is a time where people are just looking to be upset about things.

    5. KHKevin Hart27:28

       100%.

    6. JRJoe Rogan27:29

       And they're, they're not looking at, looking at you, Kevin Hart, as just a human being, like what, what... Who is he-

    7. KHKevin Hart27:34

       Mm-hmm.

    8. JRJoe Rogan27:34

       ... overall?

    9. KHKevin Hart27:35

       Mm-hmm.

    10. JRJoe Rogan27:35

        Super positive. They're not even concentrating on that. I mean, think about how positive you are, and yet they tried to concentrate on some jokes that you did, what, nine years ago.

    11. KHKevin Hart27:44

        Well, it was a, it's a, it's a wake-up call of understanding the times, but then more importantly, you know, for me, it was, okay, I went through it. I made sure that the people of the LGBTQ community really understand that, hey, guys, I apologized before but I'm apologizing again. I'm sorry. I'm not that guy. I don't want you to think I'm that guy. Then it just became the constant conversation.

    12. JRJoe Rogan28:09

        That never happened?

    13. KHKevin Hart28:11

        That, it, it just became the constant conversation.

    14. JRJoe Rogan28:13

        Yeah.

    15. KHKevin Hart28:13

        And, and now it is, guys, I'm not only sorry, I don't condone anything that has to do with hate, to anybody. This is no longer a conversation, so guys, I'm gonna stop talking about it.

    16. JRJoe Rogan28:28

        Hmm.

    17. KHKevin Hart28:29

        Because now I feel like I'm feeding into-

    18. JRJoe Rogan28:31

        Yes.

    19. KHKevin Hart28:32

        ... what I'm not. I, I know I'm not. The world and public should understand and know that I'm not, because over this time period, I've shown that I'm not. So, the apology, once again, I'm sorry. Genuinely, I'm sorry. But then it just kept... It just, it never stopped. And at that point, I just made a decision and I'm like, guys, at this point I've just, I'm making a decision to not talk about it anymore. That doesn't mean that I'm being disrespectful to anybody. That doesn't mean that I'm shutting down anything. It means that, for me, I'm gonna stop talking about it, because at this point I don't know what to do. At this point I thought, I thought the apology is what you wanted me to do, I did it. Uh, I made sure that you understand that I'm not a hateful person, I don't condone hate, I did that. I stepped down so I don't take attention off of that night and those people that are there to be celebrated. I don't wanna draw attention to myself and what's around me. I stepped down. Everything I did was for the better (laughs) of good. I, I'm, I'm stepping away, guys, because I don't want this to be a negative night or a negative thing. And then it still became a conversation. So I waited for it to die down, I went on my radio show, gave another public apology. Made sure that they understand that I'm sorry. I hope these words didn't hurt anybody. I once again apologize. I don't condone hate to anyone. I hope that you guys can forgive me for those jokes of old. So now, I say, if you don't understand it and you don't believe it, I, I don't know what else to give. I don't know what else to do.

    20. JRJoe Rogan30:13

        There's nothing else you can do.

    21. KHKevin Hart30:14

        Nothing.

    22. JRJoe Rogan30:14

        That's very

14. 30:15 – 34:37

    Lee Daniels

    1. JRJoe Rogan30:15

       wise of you.

    2. KHKevin Hart30:15

       Nothing.

    3. JRJoe Rogan30:16

       It's very wise of you to step away like that, because if you didn't, they would probably pursue it forever (laughs) .

    4. KHKevin Hart30:21

       Right. I mean-

    5. JRJoe Rogan30:21

       It's, uh, it becomes a point of attention, that's all it is. They just-

    6. KHKevin Hart30:24

       Well-

    7. JRJoe Rogan30:24

       ... decide that this is something that they're gonna focus on.

    8. KHKevin Hart30:27

       What I, I had a, I had a good talk, and I'm gonna talk about this for a minute. A friend of mine, Lee Daniels. You know, me and Lee Daniels, uh, Lee called me, told me he wanted to talk to me. You know who Lee Daniels is? Director, uh, producer, the show Empire is-

    9. JRJoe Rogan30:41

       Yeah.

    10. KHKevin Hart30:41

        ... one of his bigger shows. Um, you know, so he calls me, he's like, "Kevin, I wanna talk to you." And, and us talking, he's like, "Look-... this is a time where you could speak up and talk about, you know, the community that's been affected by hatred and, you know, hateful crimes. You can step up and be a voice and say that you don't condone or don't, uh, stand with any type of hate or whatever. You can take that stage and do that. And I said, "Lee," I said, "That's ... I understand what you're saying." I said, "But w- why did you expect me to know what's been happening within this community in regards to hate and crimes?" I said, "I, I'm not aware." I said, "Some people can just not be aware. I'm not in the know. I have no idea what's going on. I have no idea."

    11. JRJoe Rogan31:43

        In the gay community?

    12. KHKevin Hart31:44

        Yes.

    13. JRJoe Rogan31:44

        Yeah.

    14. KHKevin Hart31:44

        With- within that community. I have no idea.

    15. JRJoe Rogan31:47

        Mm-hmm. Right.

    16. KHKevin Hart31:47

        When you tell me this, I'm now educated and I understand. So, it's easy to simply inform.

    17. JRJoe Rogan31:55

        Right.

    18. KHKevin Hart31:56

        Information is key. When people get information, they process the information. When you can process the information, you go, "Oh, wait a minute. That makes sense. Hey, if you guys think that I condone hate, wait a minute. I don't. And anybody that does, fuck you, man. That's bad. You shouldn't." I can say that. But instead, when this happened, it was, "Become an ally."

    19. JRJoe Rogan32:22

        Hmm.

    20. KHKevin Hart32:22

        "Become a voice."

    21. JRJoe Rogan32:23

        Yeah.

    22. KHKevin Hart32:24

        And that's- that's where there was just a miscommunication. That's where a back and forth kinda was established that I think people just started to take things and run with it. And I'm just not ... I'm just not one to feed into what I feel isn't going to eventually evolve into a positive thing.

    23. JRJoe Rogan32:49

        In a real conversation?

    24. KHKevin Hart32:50

        Yes.

    25. JRJoe Rogan32:50

        Yeah.

    26. KHKevin Hart32:50

        When I'm- when I'm trying my best to.

    27. JRJoe Rogan32:52

        It was becoming tabloid bullshit-

    28. KHKevin Hart32:54

        Pretty much.

    29. JRJoe Rogan32:54

        ... as opposed to, like, a real discussion.

    30. KHKevin Hart32:56

        Clickbait.
15. 34:37 – 39:29

    What Makes You Happy

    1. JRJoe Rogan34:37

       know if it's a cool thing. I think it's usually people that are really frustrated with their lives.

    2. KHKevin Hart34:40

       100%.

    3. JRJoe Rogan34:41

       And that's the-

    4. KHKevin Hart34:41

       And that's the- that's the factual side to it. That's-

    5. JRJoe Rogan34:43

       I- I did a joke before. It was like, "Do you think Michael Jordan leaves YouTube comments?"

    6. KHKevin Hart34:47

       (laughs)

    7. JRJoe Rogan34:47

       Like, I bet he doesn't.

    8. KHKevin Hart34:48

       No. No.

    9. JRJoe Rogan34:51

       (laughs)

    10. KHKevin Hart34:51

        (laughs) No.

    11. JRJoe Rogan34:51

        That's not for winners.

    12. KHKevin Hart34:52

        No. (laughs) No. Not at all.

    13. JRJoe Rogan34:54

        Th- th- the type of people that wanna get mad and complain constantly about shit like that.

    14. KHKevin Hart34:57

        Do you know what it takes to do this right here?

    15. JRJoe Rogan35:01

        (laughs) Not much.

    16. KHKevin Hart35:02

        Do you know? Right here?

    17. JRJoe Rogan35:03

        Yeah.

    18. KHKevin Hart35:03

        "I'm gonna tell you how I feel right in your comment section, Joe Rogan. You can kiss my ..." You know what that takes? You ... What do you have going on that you have the time to just simply be that negative and- and do it in this world and universe?

    19. JRJoe Rogan35:19

        To me, it's just a mismanagement of your time.

    20. KHKevin Hart35:22

        Time. Time.

    21. JRJoe Rogan35:23

        Yeah. Your time is so valuable.

    22. KHKevin Hart35:25

        And- and I- I don't think people understand how valuable they can be if they use their time correctly.

    23. JRJoe Rogan35:31

        Yes. Now, have you always been like this? Have you always been this ambitious?

    24. KHKevin Hart35:35

        I'm a- I'm a positive-

    25. JRJoe Rogan35:36

        Always?

    26. KHKevin Hart35:36

        ... fucking guy, man.

    27. JRJoe Rogan35:37

        But always?

    28. KHKevin Hart35:38

        Always.

    29. JRJoe Rogan35:39

        Really?

    30. KHKevin Hart35:39

        I find a light in every dark tunnel. I will find a goddamn light, man.
16. 39:29 – 41:12

    The Upside

    1. JRJoe Rogan39:29

       too.

    2. KHKevin Hart39:29

       (laughs) I had, I had a lady, I had a lady, right? Lady rolled down- (laughs)

    3. JRJoe Rogan39:38

       (laughs)

    4. KHKevin Hart39:38

       (laughs) A lady rolled down, lady rolled down a window. She goes, "When you gonna make a good movie again?"

    5. JRJoe Rogan39:43

       (laughs)

    6. KHKevin Hart39:44

       I was like... (laughs) I was... (laughs)

    7. JRJoe Rogan39:47

       (laughs) Damn.

    8. KHKevin Hart39:48

       I said, uh, "Did you see The Upside? I thought The Upside was good." "What's that?" (laughs) I was-

    9. JRJoe Rogan39:53

       Oh, shit.

    10. KHKevin Hart39:54

        "It's a movie. It's one of my movies that's out, I think. I think it's a good movie." "I ain't see that."

    11. JRJoe Rogan40:03

        (laughs)

    12. KHKevin Hart40:03

        (laughs) "All right, ma'am. You have a beautiful day."

    13. JRJoe Rogan40:05

        That's hilarious.

    14. KHKevin Hart40:06

        Yeah. "All right."

    15. JRJoe Rogan40:07

        That's it? (laughs)

    16. KHKevin Hart40:08

        That's it.

    17. JRJoe Rogan40:09

        That's it?

    18. KHKevin Hart40:09

        That's it. "All right."

    19. JRJoe Rogan40:10

        "Yeah, all right."

    20. KHKevin Hart40:11

        "All right."

    21. JRJoe Rogan40:11

        Damn.

    22. KHKevin Hart40:12

        But she said... The... She asked a question-

    23. JRJoe Rogan40:15

        (laughs)

    24. KHKevin Hart40:15

        ... with such conviction, like literally.

    25. JRJoe Rogan40:17

        Yeah.

    26. KHKevin Hart40:17

        And by the way, I could've said a lot of shit. Like, she rolled her window down-

    27. JRJoe Rogan40:20

        Right.

    28. KHKevin Hart40:20

        ... you could tell she still had the crank.

    29. JRJoe Rogan40:22

        (laughs)

    30. KHKevin Hart40:22

        So, I'm like... (laughs) I could've said a lot of shit. I didn't.
17. 41:12 – 44:38

    Life Experience

    1. JRJoe Rogan41:12

       you getting this positive attitude towards life from life experience? Are you getting it from books? Did someone teach you how to think like this?

    2. KHKevin Hart41:20

       I'm, I'm getting it from the experiences and from the, the real understanding of perfection doesn't exist. It don't exist, yo.

    3. JRJoe Rogan41:34

       Mm.

    4. KHKevin Hart41:35

       We're, we're in a time right now where people expect perfection. You expect perfection. I don't know where this came from. I don't know what happened that this is the criteria for living. My true understanding is, all right, you got one life. And that one life, the goal for us is to live it to the best of our ability from the beginning to what's said the end. In the middle, in the beginning, middle, you're gonna do things, you're gonna make mistakes, you're gonna fuck up. You're supposed to learn and then move forward with the understanding of what not to do. And when you move forward, life may get better, it may not, but somewhere along the lines, it's gonna click and everything that I went through back here was supposed to happen so that now that I'm here, I'm able to go ahead with such a high level of knowledge and I can make other people better, I can make myself better, I can do more for my family. Something happens. My dad is the prime example. Crazy drug addict. In and out of jail. Life was very bad, very fucking bad for my dad. Son got successful, son then took money...... gave it to his dad. "Here's your house, here's your truck, here's your monthly. At this age, I want you to live your life. You done made your mistakes. You can't rebuild and correct the things that you've done. I'm your son, I love you. You can't go back and, and redo. You can't try to keep going backwards. It ain't about me, you got grandkids."

    5. JRJoe Rogan43:17

       Hmm.

    6. KHKevin Hart43:18

       "Go be the best grandpop you can be for these grandkids. That's your focus now." Where's his energy devoted to? Being a grandpop for the grandkids. "Don't worry about me. But something happened in your life, something happened that took you in the direction to reap the benefits of your son's happiness and success. My energy is now contagious enough and I hand it to you. So now you're able to give that off to all these other people that you're around." Something happens, and that's in every single life, in every life. I understand that. There's a payoff for bad eventually. There's a payoff. It can be bad, but for so long. If you got the strength and the understanding to realize that, shit will change. It will change. It's impossible, just like poker. I don't know if you play poker or not.

    7. JRJoe Rogan44:10

       I don't.

    8. KHKevin Hart44:10

       You play poker, you can run bad forever, but it will eventually turn around once you grasp the understanding of the game. Eventually, it's gonna turn around. Blackjack, you're never gonna beat the casino, but eventually you're gonna have a good run. If you catch a run, you'll do good, get the fuck outta there. You waited long enough for it to happen, here it come. Catch it, leave. Anything in life will eventually turn good.

    9. JRJoe Rogan44:37

       No, but this

18. 44:38 – 48:07

    Role Models

    1. JRJoe Rogan44:38

       is coming just from your own personal experiences?

    2. KHKevin Hart44:40

       Own personal experiences.

    3. JRJoe Rogan44:40

       You didn't have any role models that spoke to you this way?

    4. KHKevin Hart44:43

       My mother, Nancy Hart.

    5. JRJoe Rogan44:44

       Did she speak to you like this? About positivity and about r- really-

    6. KHKevin Hart44:47

       My mom reinforced knowledge. My mom reinforced, "You don't start things and not finish 'em. You don't quit. There is nothing that comes out of quitting, besides knowing that you didn't finish. We finish everything. You start it, finish it. If you're gonna do it, do it to try and be the best. Not be better than other people, be the best for you. If you're in school and you're going to class, I'm not asking you to get straight As, I'm asking you to get the best grade that you can possibly get. Give me 100% all the time, and I'm a happy mother. When you half-ass me, I'm on your ass."

    7. JRJoe Rogan45:32

       (laughs)

    8. KHKevin Hart45:33

       "Mom, I wanna do this. I wanna, I wanna play baseball." "Well then, you gonna play." "Mom, I don't like that no more." "Then why'd you start the season?" "'Cause I thought I wanted to do it." "Then you gonna finish the season. You don't quit. There's other people that invested time and energy into you, you don't just quit on people." "But I don't wanna do it." "Finish the season." "Mom, I wanna swim." "Then you gonna finish swimming." It didn't matter what I did, I was never allowed to quit. So now, in anything I do, when I pick it up and say I'ma start it, I gotta finish it. It all don't work, it all ain't the best-

    9. JRJoe Rogan46:07

       Hmm.

    10. KHKevin Hart46:08

        ... it all ain't knocked out the park, but I walk away saying, "I finished it. I did it. (fist pounding) I did it." Right now, I've been boxing.

    11. JRJoe Rogan46:18

        I saw. I saw you working out with Rico Verhoeven.

    12. KHKevin Hart46:20

        I'm fucking, um... First of all, very strong kicker. (laughs)

    13. JRJoe Rogan46:24

        (laughs) He's a giant. He's a giant man. (laughs)

    14. KHKevin Hart46:25

        He's a, he's a huge, huge man. Huge man, okay?

    15. JRJoe Rogan46:28

        He's a fucking beast, that guy.

    16. KHKevin Hart46:29

        He's a good guy, too, man. Good guy. But I started it-

    17. JRJoe Rogan46:32

        Viking genes.

    18. KHKevin Hart46:33

        ... I started it and I said, "Why am I doing this? I'm not gonna be a professional fighter and I'm not trying to be an amateur fighter. I'm doing it to get into shape." All right, then I started getting in shape then I said, "You know, there's so much that I don't know about the sport. I at least wanna make sure that I'm paying homage to the people that do this for a living by really understanding and learning it. You know what? I'ma get a real trainer. I'ma get some real people to show me everything so when it's all said and done and I look back after my training, I can go, 'I gave it 100% and look at how good I got. Look at what I'm a product of.'" I spar. I go, I get in the ring-

    19. JRJoe Rogan47:11

        Do you really?

    20. KHKevin Hart47:12

        Yeah, yeah, yeah, just to feel it. To... So I can say I did it.

    21. JRJoe Rogan47:15

        You know who, you know who else spars? Brian Callan. Is this you?

    22. KHKevin Hart47:17

        Are you serious?

    23. JRJoe Rogan47:18

        No.

    24. KHKevin Hart47:19

        That's me. Yeah, that's me.

    25. JRJoe Rogan47:20

        Come on.

    26. KHKevin Hart47:20

        That's me.

    27. JRJoe Rogan47:21

        Dude.

    28. KHKevin Hart47:22

        That's me. It's getting it, too. (video playing) Look at this.

    29. JRJoe Rogan47:27

        Who is teaching you?

    30. KHKevin Hart47:29

        Uh, his name is Biggs. He's in Atlanta. That's me learning how to turtle shell within punches.
19. 48:07 – 49:33

    James Toney

    1. JRJoe Rogan48:07

       celebrities, trying to spar. Like, if you try to, like... You know, that's why Mickey Rourke started getting all that facial surgery.

    2. KHKevin Hart48:13

       Are you serious?

    3. JRJoe Rogan48:13

       Yeah, he was sparring with James Toney. (laughs)

    4. KHKevin Hart48:15

       Jesus Christ.

    5. JRJoe Rogan48:16

       James Toney would beat the fucking shit outta you, man.

    6. KHKevin Hart48:18

       Jesus Christ. Well, that's just-

    7. JRJoe Rogan48:19

       (laughs)

    8. KHKevin Hart48:19

       ... just not a smart move right there.

    9. JRJoe Rogan48:21

       Jesus. (laughs) It's, it's... James Toney's a mean man.

    10. KHKevin Hart48:23

        Yeah, that's just... And I... You can't... Like, I don't, I don't go in that space. I don't-

    11. JRJoe Rogan48:27

        Have you ever seen James Toney talk shit while he spars?

    12. KHKevin Hart48:30

        No.

    13. JRJoe Rogan48:30

        It's some of the most entertaining thing you'll ever find on YouTube.

    14. KHKevin Hart48:32

        He's just-

    15. JRJoe Rogan48:33

        He just, uh, he won't shut the fuck up.

    16. KHKevin Hart48:35

        The whole time.

    17. JRJoe Rogan48:35

        While he's beating your ass, he's talking shit.

    18. KHKevin Hart48:37

        But that's, that's-

    19. JRJoe Rogan48:37

        "Come on, bitch. Come on, bitch."

    20. KHKevin Hart48:38

        ... that's hurtful.

    21. JRJoe Rogan48:39

        "What you got, bitch? Oh, this ain't shit." He just ke- (laughs)

    22. KHKevin Hart48:42

        That's hurtful. That's hurtful. That's-

    23. JRJoe Rogan48:43

        And he's one of the best defensive fighters ever, so he's really difficult to hit. He's got that shell going, standing right in front of you and you can't hit him.

    24. KHKevin Hart48:50

        It's the most frustrating thing in the world.

    25. JRJoe Rogan48:51

        Yeah.

    26. KHKevin Hart48:52

        I had a guy, this guy named Mikey I've been sparring with. Mikey, Mikey hit me with three punches. I thought...... i- I thought Mikey literally had like six arms. This is a true story.

    27. JRJoe Rogan49:05

        (laughs)

    28. KHKevin Hart49:05

        This, I said, "I don't know what just happened," (laughs) but I thought I had my hands up and no matter where I put 'em, he just tapped me. He lets me feel it, but not to-

    29. JRJoe Rogan49:15

        Right.

    30. KHKevin Hart49:15

        ... where I'm like getting knocked out. But, I understand now movement, I understand pivots, I understand-
20. 49:33 – 50:46

    Terence Crawford

    1. KHKevin Hart49:33

       it.

    2. JRJoe Rogan49:33

       Well, as you learn it too, and as you watch it and you start to get trained, then you start to look at a guy like a Terence Crawford or-

    3. KHKevin Hart49:40

       Mm.

    4. JRJoe Rogan49:40

       ... a Lomachenko-

    5. KHKevin Hart49:41

       Mm.

    6. JRJoe Rogan49:41

       ... and you go, "Oh, now I appreciate what you're doing."

    7. KHKevin Hart49:44

       (imitates air whooshing)

    8. JRJoe Rogan49:44

       'Cause before you'd see like, "Oh yeah, he beat that guy up. Oh yeah, he knocked that guy out." But then, you see like how he ducks under the left and fires back with the right and you're like-

    9. KHKevin Hart49:53

       Insane.

    10. JRJoe Rogan49:53

        ... "Oh Jesus, this is precision."

    11. KHKevin Hart49:55

        It's insane.

    12. JRJoe Rogan49:56

        Yeah.

    13. KHKevin Hart49:56

        You, the, the respect that I have for people that do that on a day-to-day-

    14. JRJoe Rogan50:01

        Yeah.

    15. KHKevin Hart50:01

        ... is through the roof. The, you're, you're in ... People that fight are in the most amazing shape in the universe.

    16. JRJoe Rogan50:08

        Yeah.

    17. KHKevin Hart50:08

        You're in the most amazing shape ever. To move, get hit for three to five minutes a round, come back, do it, come back, do it. And these fights go on and on and on. I, I take my hat off to you.

    18. JRJoe Rogan50:25

        Yeah.

    19. KHKevin Hart50:25

        You get three rounds outta me, I'm breathing out my butt.

    20. JRJoe Rogan50:28

        (laughs)

    21. KHKevin Hart50:28

        I'm, I don't know where the air is coming from.

    22. JRJoe Rogan50:30

        Yeah.

    23. KHKevin Hart50:30

        I'm searching for it.

    24. JRJoe Rogan50:31

        It's a crazy way to make a living too, man.

    25. KHKevin Hart50:32

        Oh, yes. I, I thank God that I-

    26. JRJoe Rogan50:34

        To rely on your body and your brain like that.

    27. KHKevin Hart50:35

        Yeah. Thank God, I don't, uh, I didn't have to go down that route. And you know, to those that do, just make sure you just put your, your body first. Like you said, it's, uh, it's hurtful when you see the damage that it can cause.

    28. JRJoe Rogan50:45

        (smacks lips)

21. 50:46 – 52:07

    The Internet

    1. JRJoe Rogan50:46

       Yeah. We were talking about that earlier, like seeing guys as they start to deteriorate, and it's hard because nobody wants to tell him that either.

    2. KHKevin Hart50:52

       Yeah.

    3. JRJoe Rogan50:52

       Everybody wants to tell him they got one more good fight in 'em and let's, uh, maybe at the end of the year, then we'll decide, but right now we're gonna train hard and ... (inhales)

    4. KHKevin Hart51:00

       Hmm. That's tough.

    5. JRJoe Rogan51:01

       It's hard too 'cause there's no options. They don't... Once you've established yourself as a professional fighter and you don't have an exit strategy-

    6. KHKevin Hart51:08

       Mm-hmm.

    7. JRJoe Rogan51:08

       ... you don't know what to do, you know? Now at least thankfully because of the internet, guys are getting podcasts and they're starting doing commentary shows-

    8. KHKevin Hart51:15

       Mm-hmm.

    9. JRJoe Rogan51:15

       ... they're talking about fighting-

    10. KHKevin Hart51:17

        Mm-hmm.

    11. JRJoe Rogan51:17

        ... and ...

    12. KHKevin Hart51:17

        It's the positive.

    13. JRJoe Rogan51:18

        Yeah.

    14. KHKevin Hart51:18

        See what you just did there?

    15. JRJoe Rogan51:19

        Yes.

    16. KHKevin Hart51:19

        You just found the positive.

    17. JRJoe Rogan51:20

        Yes.

    18. KHKevin Hart51:21

        That's the positive-

    19. JRJoe Rogan51:22

        (laughs)

    20. KHKevin Hart51:22

        ... within the internet.

    21. JRJoe Rogan51:23

        Mm-hmm.

    22. KHKevin Hart51:23

        There is positive.

    23. JRJoe Rogan51:25

        Oh, for sure.

    24. KHKevin Hart51:25

        But you just don't, you just don't hear it celebrated as much.

    25. JRJoe Rogan51:28

        Well, the, the internet's very positive for me.

    26. KHKevin Hart51:30

        Mm-hmm.

    27. JRJoe Rogan51:30

        I mean, this is, this show we do on the internet, I mean, all d- p- not, not just podcasts, but YouTube videos.

    28. KHKevin Hart51:36

        Mm-hmm.

    29. JRJoe Rogan51:37

        And also information. I know more because of the internet than I ever would have-

    30. KHKevin Hart51:40

        Yeah.
22. 52:07 – 57:14

    Ambition

    1. JRJoe Rogan52:07

       crazy ambitious. That's the thing that-

    2. KHKevin Hart52:08

       For sure.

    3. JRJoe Rogan52:09

       ... gets me about you and The Rock.

    4. KHKevin Hart52:10

       For sure.

    5. JRJoe Rogan52:11

       It's like the ambition's off the charts, like I know you're rich as fuck.

    6. KHKevin Hart52:14

       Mm-hmm.

    7. JRJoe Rogan52:14

       Like when, when do you think you got enough? You don't have enough. There's no-

    8. KHKevin Hart52:17

       I don't.

    9. JRJoe Rogan52:17

       There's no enough.

    10. KHKevin Hart52:18

        I don't have enough because it's not over.

    11. JRJoe Rogan52:21

        It's not over.

    12. KHKevin Hart52:21

        It's not over. So, you know, when, when you put a cap on it, you're, you're putting a punctuation to it.

    13. JRJoe Rogan52:27

        Mm-hmm.

    14. KHKevin Hart52:27

        And the, the, the ambition comes from seeing what's out there that can be obtained. You know, when you see what's out there.

    15. JRJoe Rogan52:41

        Like what ki- you mean physical things? Like what do you mean?

    16. KHKevin Hart52:42

        When you see what's out there, when you see where people are really gaining wealth and knowledge from. Okay? The business relationships that you're able to acquire. The people that you're able to partner with and create certain things, different revenue streams. What I found is, as a young black guy from North Philadelphia, the biggest problem with, the biggest problem within our community is knowledge. We don't know. Debt, debt is welcomed because it's celebrated. That's all we know. Yeah, no, I'm gonna get that credit card. I'm gonna fuck that credit card up and it is what it is. They gotta figure that out. I ain't got it after that. Yeah, well, you know what? I'm getting student loans, they gave it to me then after that, shit, it is what it is. I'ma figure it out. (smacks lips) And I put a cable bill in your name, you put it in my name, we gonna switch it up. Uh, whatever, they do it, then let's just put it in somebody else name. It's welcome. The hustle is welcome. The knowledge of banks and what you can do or can't do is, is fucking ... You don't even get it 'cause you go to check cashing places. Reason why you go to check cashing places is 'cause I don't wanna go through that shit with them banks, I don't trust that. Go right there to the check cashing place, let me get mine. Let me get mine now. Take the $30, whatever, let me get it. The knowledge isn't given. So it's not till you obtain that knowledge and understanding that you go, "Oh, shit. Oh, this is why you put money up. Oh, this is, this is how you increase versus decrease. Oh, this is how you earn on your money. Oh wow. I can gain wealth by investing in what? The stock world is what? How many people partake in the stock world? And is there a part that isn't necessarily gambling? Is there a low risk part?" These- this not ... The information isn't there.

    17. JRJoe Rogan54:36

        Right.

    18. KHKevin Hart54:36

        So it's not till I got to a certain level and a certain group of people where I got it. And now that I got it, I wanna give it. So now, i'm going to give it, I'm gonna give it to the people that I know need it most. And for me, that younger generation of black people that don't understand the cool thing is in financial longevity. Not in the now, it's not in the moment for jewelry, not in the moment for the car. It's in the longevity.... is in buildings so at the end of the day you can say, "Look at what I have. Look at what I worked for and look at what I have that's mine." Monopoly is real, but you have to have the financial understanding. And I, I, I teamed up... I got Chase on there and we're doing something called Financial Fitness, where it's just about me educating people on money.

    19. JRJoe Rogan55:23

        Really?

    20. KHKevin Hart55:23

        How to manage money, how to, how to be smart with your money. But, it's coming from a person that fucked up money. I didn't always understand it. I owed in taxes before because I didn't understand it in the beginning. I've had bad credit. Credit cards wouldn't take me because I maxed out whatever. I've been there, I've done it. Thank God I was able to fix it and get on the right path. And now that I have the knowledge, I wanna give it to those who simply don't know. So, when you say the endgame, the endgame is getting to a point where I've taken all the knowledge that I've been able to get over these years and really applying it and providing family wealth. When it's all said and done, the last name Hart is gonna mean just more, a lot more than just Kevin Hart in comedy. Heartbeat Productions, you got Heartbeat Digital, you got Heartbeat Ventures, you got Heartbeat Real Estate. There's so many things that the last name Hart will be attached to.

    21. JRJoe Rogan56:17

        You sell real estate?

    22. KHKevin Hart56:18

        Kevin Hart doesn't sell real estate.

    23. NANarrator56:20

        (laughs)

    24. KHKevin Hart56:20

        I buy real estate, I don't sell it.

    25. JRJoe Rogan56:21

        I like how you talk about yourself in the third person, too.

    26. NANarrator56:22

        (laughing)

    27. KHKevin Hart56:22

        Yes, I'm sorry about that. I don't sell it. (laughs) I buy it.

    28. JRJoe Rogan56:26

        Right.

    29. KHKevin Hart56:26

        But, the reason why is because-

    30. JRJoe Rogan56:28

        Investment.
23. 57:14 – 1:14:01

    Financial Fitness

    1. KHKevin Hart57:14

       by myself.

    2. JRJoe Rogan57:14

       Now, are you doing this, uh, uh, the financial stuff, are you doing this in videos? Are you, like, releasing videos like how you're doing it?

    3. KHKevin Hart57:19

       Not in videos, no. We're, we're starting... We're gonna start, uh, we're gonna start Financial Fitness, like I said, with Chase, JPMorgan Chase. Um, Jamie Dimon, very good guy, uh, Thasunda as well, they're, they'll help leading charge and just saying, "How can we get to the people that we feel need the financial information the most?" So I said, "Put me out there." Like, "Let's, let's go directly to the consumer." So from colleges, uh, from high schools, um, senior classes, junior classes, going out and talking to people before they go into the next stages of their life about the things that you should know before you-

    4. JRJoe Rogan57:55

       So, you're gonna speak to them? Is that what you mean?

    5. KHKevin Hart57:56

       Yeah, and just share personal information.

    6. JRJoe Rogan57:59

       Are you gonna put this stuff online as well, though?

    7. KHKevin Hart58:00

       Yeah, yeah. You'll be able to track and find content from it, but I'm authentic. So, I said, "The best way to really do it is to put me in a position to be heard."

    8. JRJoe Rogan58:08

       Right.

    9. KHKevin Hart58:09

       I wanna be heard. Like, like, it's a different story what I explained to, uh, the, the people of JPMorgan Chase just when we were talking about this, and there's an amazing board of people, uh, that, that are just figuring this out and the best way to go and do it. And I said, "You can't have, uh, the white guy that's never been to the hood or who's not from the hood or has no idea how the economy works here and what the real troubles are, you can't throw that man in the situation to talk to people, because I'm not listening to you from the gate because you don't relate. I don't relate to you. But, throwing somebody in the situation that's lived it, that's been in it, that's been fucked up in it, made it out of it, and is now coming back to help-"

    10. JRJoe Rogan58:56

        Right.

    11. KHKevin Hart58:56

        ... it's a different ball game. And that's what I wanna be. And you know, we have other voices outside of myself, um, very powerful voices that are gonna do it as well, but the, the purpose is to align ourselves to really make a change. So, you can either be the conversation about making change, or you can be actual a part of the action to do it. I wanna be a part of the action. And, and doing it, you'll also be able to understand my drive. You'll get why I do so much. You'll get why my hand is in so much, because I have access to it, and the question should be, "Why not?"

    12. JRJoe Rogan59:28

        Yeah.

    13. KHKevin Hart59:29

        The question shouldn't be, "Yo, why is he doing everything?" It should be, "Why aren't you? Why aren't you trying to do everything? Why not?"

    14. JRJoe Rogan59:36

        Well, that's the thing about a guy like you, that g- becomes contagious. Like, what you were saying about surrounding yourself with positive people-

    15. KHKevin Hart59:41

        Mm-hmm.

    16. JRJoe Rogan59:41

        ... and people that are constantly ambitious and that, that... There's fuel to that. You feel good about that.

    17. KHKevin Hart59:47

        Mm-hmm.

    18. JRJoe Rogan59:47

        That's what you're doing.

    19. KHKevin Hart59:48

        I can, I can say-

    20. JRJoe Rogan59:49

        It's beautiful.

    21. KHKevin Hart59:49

        ... seeing you here, right? We walked around, you showed me your facility, loved it. Beautiful facility. You talked to me about how your podcast has grown to where you are now and the success behind it. I don't leave here and go, "Yo, that's dope as shit." I go, "Hey, I need to do more work on my radio station, Laugh Out Loud Radio." I own it. It's mine. I got a show on there, but you know what? Joe fucking motivated me to do more. I wanna make sure that we understand really what's out here within this radio world, because I just saw my guy in his space and I saw how happy he is with the success that he has. I don't wanna be you or beat you. I wanna take this energy and apply it to myself. That's the purpose of seeing.

    22. JRJoe Rogan1:00:40

        Yeah.

    23. KHKevin Hart1:00:40

        That's the purpose of being smart with your eyeballs. You should be a sponge. So, I'm a sponge. So, I come here and I look at how you maneuver, I look at your setup. I not only bow down and congratulate you, I leave and I say, "Yo, man. I'm inspired, dude. That's dope as hell. Joe, I can't wait until two years, you gonna come and you're gonna see my shit. And you remember I said I was inspired, but you're gonna see what I let it grow into."... that's the proper way to get encouraged and motivated.

    24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:06

        Right, as opposed to being a hater.

    25. KHKevin Hart1:01:07

        A hater and, and competitive and-

    26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:10

        Yeah.

    27. KHKevin Hart1:01:10

        ... "I'm gonna beat you."

    28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:11

        Yeah.

    29. KHKevin Hart1:01:11

        It's not a competition.

    30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:12

        Yeah, I'm not interested in that either.

Episode duration: 2:04:51