Joe Rogan Experience #1288 - Jon Reep

Jon Reep 0:00 So bad.

Joe Rogan 0:02 And we're live. Um, do you drink? Do you want a zero alcohol Heineken?

Jon Reep 0:06 Tch, sure. If you're having one.

Joe Rogan 0:08 Yeah. There you go, fella. Zero alcohol, let's get crazy. (laughs) They're actually good.

Jon Reep 0:12 Well, let's pace ourselves.

Joe Rogan 0:13 They taste... Cheers, sir. (glasses clinking)

Jon Reep 0:14 I'm gonna chug this.

Joe Rogan 0:15 Whoa, don't do that.

Jon Reep 0:16 I'm not drinking that.

Joe Rogan 0:16 Dude, what are you, dangerous? Reckless?

Jon Reep 0:17 Zero alcohol. How many calories, though?

Joe Rogan 0:20 What, you scared of calories, bro? That's how you stay alive.

Jon Reep 0:23 That's true.

Joe Rogan 0:23 That's how you get your energy from the air.

Jon Reep 0:24 I mean, I got plenty of calories already.

Joe Rogan 0:26 Dammit. I have to ask you. Did you drive in in a Hemi?

Jon Reep 0:29 (laughs) No, I didn't. I got dropped off-

Joe Rogan 0:31 What the fuck? (laughs)

Jon Reep 0:32 ... in a Chevy.

Joe Rogan 0:32 Oh my God.

Jon Reep 0:33 (laughs) This is outrageous. I had one for a little while.

Joe Rogan 0:36 Just a little while?

Jon Reep 0:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:37 I would've figured, like, you would have to have one for quite a long time.

Jon Reep 0:40 It was fun. Well, o- okay, I'm gonna backtrack a little bit.

Joe Rogan 0:43 Okay.

Jon Reep 0:44 So first commercial, right? That thing got a Hemi.

Joe Rogan 0:48 Right.

Jon Reep 0:48 I did six of these things.

Joe Rogan 0:50 Yeah.

Jon Reep 0:50 And around commercial three, I, uh, I was talking to my agent, and I said, "Man, you know, if they ask-"

Joe Rogan 0:57 Look at you.

Jon Reep 0:57 "... to do another one..." Oh, shit.

Joe Rogan 0:58 (laughs)

Jon Reep 0:58 Here we go. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00 (laughs)

Jon Reep 1:01 Oh my God.

Joe Rogan 1:01 Is that a Hemi?

Jon Reep 1:02 That's the worst I've ever looked in my life.

Joe Rogan 1:04 (laughs)

Jon Reep 1:04 I really felt like I was sitting in the desert, like no one's ever gonna see these commercials. No one's gonna know what a Hemi is.

Joe Rogan 1:09 Incorrect. (laughs)

Jon Reep 1:09 And I couldn't have been, I could not have been more wrong.

Joe Rogan 1:12 (laughs) Yeah.

Jon Reep 1:14 Yeah. There it is.

Joe Rogan 1:15 So did they give-

Jon Reep 1:15 Look at that bad ass.

Joe Rogan 1:16 Did they give you one, or did you just go out and buy one?

Jon Reep 1:18 Well, I said, "Listen, if they, if they want me to do another commercial, see if you can get a vehicle out of them."

Joe Rogan 1:24 Right.

Jon Reep 1:24 And my agent was like, you know, make it their problem, he calls them up, he goes, "Hey, I don't know if you know this, but your Hemi guy, your spokesman is driving around Los Angeles right now in a Suzuki Sidekick."

Joe Rogan 1:35 Oh.

Jon Reep 1:35 And they're like, "What?"

Joe Rogan 1:36 Wait a minute. Suzuki Sidekick?

Jon Reep 1:36 We can't have that. That's what I had. (laughs) I was driving-

Joe Rogan 1:39 Isn't that the fucking, the T-Mobile device?

Jon Reep 1:42 It's a box kite. (laughs) Yeah.

Narrator 1:42 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:42 Is that the same thing?

Jon Reep 1:43 It's the lightest...

Joe Rogan 1:45 (laughs)

Jon Reep 1:45 It's a box kite. If you can put a string to it and float it in the air.

Joe Rogan 1:48 Was that that shitty looking Jeep thing?

Jon Reep 1:50 Yes.

Joe Rogan 1:50 Oh, wow, you had one of those?

Jon Reep 1:51 I did, yeah. Red.

Joe Rogan 1:53 Wow.

Jon Reep 1:53 I don't know why. For some reason, I liked that thing. I got it in college, and then, uh-

Joe Rogan 1:58 It's probably why you like it.

Jon Reep 1:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:59 Nostalgia.

Jon Reep 1:59 It was cool for, uh, tailgating and shit.

Joe Rogan 2:01 There it is.

Jon Reep 2:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:02 Look at that.

Jon Reep 2:03 No, I didn't. That's... (laughs)

Narrator 2:04 (laughs)

Jon Reep 2:04 That's the LL Cool J version.

Joe Rogan 2:06 (laughs)

Jon Reep 2:06 I didn't have that one.

Joe Rogan 2:07 What's the LL Cool J version?

Jon Reep 2:08 I had... I don't know, I think I saw that in a video one time. 'Cause it's a com- that's the one I had right there.

Joe Rogan 2:12 You had that?

Jon Reep 2:12 Hard top.

Joe Rogan 2:13 Damn.

Jon Reep 2:14 Yeah. I totaled that thing in North Dakota one time, hit black ice. And I mean, a gust of wind just knocked me off the road and I was in a ditch.

Joe Rogan 2:23 Ooh.

Jon Reep 2:23 But it was, uh, you know how people with motorcycles, they'll see another motorcycle and they'll wave.

Joe Rogan 2:28 Mm-hmm.

Jon Reep 2:28 And then it's like a little club that you're in, and Jeeps do it too. And I started doing that to other Suzuki Sidekicks. And out of, for whatever reason, I'd wave to them. Nine times out of ten, it's like an overweight black lady.

Joe Rogan 2:39 (laughs)

Jon Reep 2:40 And I just wave it out and they're like, "What is he doing?" I was like, "We're in the club, man." So, but yeah, uh...

Joe Rogan 2:46 People love to do that-

Jon Reep 2:46 I got a Hemi!

Joe Rogan 2:47 ... with nice cars.

Jon Reep 2:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:48 But to do that with shitty cars too.

Jon Reep 2:50 Yeah. That's what, that's the thing.

Joe Rogan 2:51 Next level.

Jon Reep 2:51 That's more fun.

Joe Rogan 2:52 Yeah.

Jon Reep 2:52 (laughs) Like, I see you. I see you.

Joe Rogan 2:54 So what did they give you when they gave you a Hemi?

Jon Reep 2:56 Uh, it was a, uh, a 1500 Dodge Ram Quad Cab.

Joe Rogan 3:00 Oh. Nice.

Jon Reep 3:00 Black, lot of chrome.

Joe Rogan 3:02 Feel comfortable in that thing.

Jon Reep 3:03 I loved it. I loved when I first got it. You know, it was like, it was like in the middle of the... You know I did six-

Joe Rogan 3:08 Yeah.

Jon Reep 3:08 ... of those commercials, so I was riding around LA with the windows down just blasting, you know, Lynyrd Skynyrd and shit.

Joe Rogan 3:14 Yeah, that's perfect for that.

Jon Reep 3:15 Just pulled up to The Comedy Store.

Joe Rogan 3:16 (laughs)

Jon Reep 3:17 And like, "Park it." I mean, they hated parking that thing in that, in that lot, 'cause-

Joe Rogan 3:20 Oh, yeah.

Jon Reep 3:21 ... it's gigantic.

Joe Rogan 3:21 Yeah, it's a wide beast.

Jon Reep 3:22 And they're like, "Really, man? Can't you just have somebody drop you off?"

Joe Rogan 3:25 Yeah, Brendan Schaub's been showing up in his, uh, he got a Raptor.

Jon Reep 3:29 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:29 You never realize how wide those things are until you're standing in front of them, like, "What?"

Jon Reep 3:33 They're huge.

Joe Rogan 3:33 That's a fucking giant vehicle.

Jon Reep 3:35 And then trying to valet that thing anywhere in Los Angeles.

Joe Rogan 3:38 Oh, yeah.

Jon Reep 3:38 You know?

Joe Rogan 3:38 Yeah.

Jon Reep 3:39 I saw a lot of tiny little Mexican dudes who were like, "Really, man?" (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:42 Well, the worst is if you try to valet a stick shift. I tried to give-

Jon Reep 3:45 Oh, right.

Joe Rogan 3:45 I tried to give a valet my keys to my Bronco, and he didn't know what to do. I go, "You don't know how to drive a stick shift." He goes, "No." I go, "What the fuck are you doing here, man? How can you have this job?"

Jon Reep 3:54 Yeah. Yeah, that-

Joe Rogan 3:55 Yeah.

Jon Reep 3:55 ... that should be a part of the, uh, resume. Like-

Joe Rogan 3:58 You can't?

Jon Reep 3:58 ... can drive all cars.

Joe Rogan 3:59 It's crazy.

Jon Reep 4:00 Yeah. I mean, I think most people know how to, you know, anyone under 30 can drive a stick anymore.

Joe Rogan 4:05 I don't think so. No, I think it's-

Jon Reep 4:07 It's going-

Joe Rogan 4:07 It's going gone.

Jon Reep 4:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:08 Porsche doesn't make them anymore. The only, American muscle cars were one of the last holdouts.

Jon Reep 4:13 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 4:13 Like Corvette and Camaro.

Jon Reep 4:15 I haven't driven a stick in a long time.

Joe Rogan 4:17 Mustangs. You have?

Jon Reep 4:18 No.

Joe Rogan 4:19 You want to? You want to try-

Jon Reep 4:20 Sure.

Joe Rogan 4:20 ... one today?

Jon Reep 4:20 Actually, the last time I did, I was in Costa Rica.

Joe Rogan 4:22 Oh.

Jon Reep 4:23 And I rented, I rented a car. And I'm like, I just assume all cars now when you rent them are automatics, you know?

Joe Rogan 4:30 Mm-hmm.

Jon Reep 4:30 You get another country, it's, it's whatever. And so I'm pulling out of the, uh, the lot. And it's like, oh shit, it's been a minute. It was pretty embarrassing.

Joe Rogan 4:40 (stuttering)

Jon Reep 4:40 (laughs) Yeah. (imitating engine revving) Pow, pow! Like, I got this.

Joe Rogan 4:43 Yeah. When you're in Italy, they all drive stick shifts, even like minivans.

Jon Reep 4:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:47 It's weird.

Jon Reep 4:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:48 Everything's a stick shift over there. I'm not sure why.

Jon Reep 4:50 I don't know. What, what's the advantages and disadvantages? I mean, what do you prefer?

Joe Rogan 4:54 Well, if I was in... Where I was in Italy, it was in Ravello, which is, um, very small little roads. It's very tiny, and it's like crazy-

Jon Reep 5:03 Right.

Joe Rogan 5:03 ... congestion because of tourism.

Jon Reep 5:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:05 And, uh, the guy was always on the clutch, back and forth, back and forth. I was like, you know, this has got to be annoying as fuck.

Jon Reep 5:11 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:11 You want an automatic. And that's like LA.

Jon Reep 5:13 Right.

Joe Rogan 5:13 Like if you're in, if you're commuting to LA bumper to bumper every day, you're gonna want an automatic.

Jon Reep 5:19 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 5:19 That's what happened.

Jon Reep 5:20 Right.

Joe Rogan 5:21 Yeah.

Jon Reep 5:21 I think you're right.

Joe Rogan 5:21 Yeah.

Jon Reep 5:22 Yeah, it's just more comfortable. Let-

Joe Rogan 5:23 But if you're on a-

Jon Reep 5:23 Let the car do the work.

Joe Rogan 5:25 But if you're on a mountain road-

Jon Reep 5:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:27 ... like the Angels Crest Highway and you're (imitating engine revving) .

Jon Reep 5:29 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:31 You want to shift.

Jon Reep 5:31 There's something cool about being in command of the vehicle.

Joe Rogan 5:35 Yes.

Jon Reep 5:35 And you telling it when it's need- you know.

Joe Rogan 5:37 It's manly.

Jon Reep 5:38 Yeah, it is. And if-

Joe Rogan 5:38 It's 'cause you got a dick in your hand.

Jon Reep 5:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:41 (laughs)

Jon Reep 5:41 And if it's a woman, you gotta go, "Ooh."

Joe Rogan 5:43 Right.

Jon Reep 5:43 "Don't get too close to this one."

Joe Rogan 5:45 Yeah, yeah.

Jon Reep 5:45 She likes driving stick shifts? Like, "Oh, she's a rebel." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:48 "She might be a problem."

Jon Reep 5:49 Right.

Joe Rogan 5:50 "She might be a problem."

Jon Reep 5:50 Probably great in bed though.

Joe Rogan 5:51 Maybe. Yeah, for a little while.

Jon Reep 5:52 Pro- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:53 And then she's-

Jon Reep 5:54 And then burn your house down.

Joe Rogan 5:55 ... all sorts of problems.

Jon Reep 5:55 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:56 She gets mad at you for an email from 12 years ago.

Jon Reep 5:58 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:59 I didn't even know you then.

Jon Reep 6:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:00 What the fuck?

Jon Reep 6:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:02 You can't go back in time. (laughs) How'd you find this? (laughs) Right? (laughs) Where did that phone come from? That's a flip phone. Or was that thing? That's my Suzuki Sidekick. (laughs) We were looking at that thing from CES that Jamie pulled up. What is that goofy thing called?

Jamie Vernon 6:15 Uh...

Joe Rogan 6:16 These are good, right? It, uh, I don't really, I don't feel like I'm drinking a non-alcoholic beer. It tastes like a regular beer. Um...

Jamie Vernon 6:23 Planet Computers Cosmo Communicator. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:25 Look at the fucking outside of that thing. What is that thing? That is, that is wasted development money. That looks- Like someone was doing coke- (laughs) ... and they decided... Does that have a spaceship? It does. Oh my God. It looks like it could either have a planet or a spaceship on the front of it. It looks like one of those... (laughs) Look at that. It looks like one of those metal wallets that you get to keep your credit cards secured on.

Jamie Vernon 6:44 It's got a whole keyboard on it.

Joe Rogan 6:44 Yeah.

Jamie Vernon 6:45 That's pretty dope.

Joe Rogan 6:45 But that shit's preposterous. Oh, for sure. It's just too big. But you're not using your fingers. You could. See, the only... But would you? Who makes that? My fat fucking hands are not gonna fit on that thing. Yeah. (laughs) You're not going to be able to do that. Right. Like, look at that. I mean, at this point, we're so used to doing this- Yeah. ... why go back and, and go back to that now? Do you ever go sideways on your iPhone? Uh, yeah. Did you ever go that way? Just to take a picture, I will. Yeah. But never to type. Not typing, no way. I thought that was the move. I'm like, "Oh, once we go sideways. That's gonna be the shit."

Jamie Vernon 7:12 (laughs) Have you, have you tried it on an iPad?

Joe Rogan 7:13 Uh, I have not.

Jamie Vernon 7:15 It's not bad.

Joe Rogan 7:16 Yeah? Sideways on an iPad?

Jamie Vernon 7:17 Yeah, like when you have to type on the full screen-

Joe Rogan 7:19 Oh.

Jamie Vernon 7:19 ... with the full keyboard.

Joe Rogan 7:20 Oh, with both hands.

Jamie Vernon 7:20 It's not bad. It's not perfect, but it's fucking-

Joe Rogan 7:23 Right.

Jamie Vernon 7:23 ... way better than just your thumbs on an iPhone.

Joe Rogan 7:24 Yeah, that makes sense. Especially if you can type. I used to think I would never get used to that, just that, you know, the key- the, the, the screen, without feeling it. Look at that little front screen. Like you got a bunch of shit that comes in on it. Look at that. Oh. Like apps and stuff, I guess. (laughs) Boy, that's gonna... No one's buying that son. How much is that thing?

Jamie Vernon 7:42 I got news for you. You never know.

Joe Rogan 7:43 How much is that? Well, here's the thing. There are so many options now. If you don't like Apple, and you're committed to like an Android phone, there's so many options. Yeah. Why would you buy that thing? What, I don't even know, what company is that? Hmm. Exactly. That's also part of the problem, right? Yeah, that'll be gone. Like where do you bring that thing to get it fixed? Right. (laughs) Yeah. If the screen cracks and you bring it to the mall, "What is it?" Yeah. "It's a Cosmo Communicator, bro." (laughs) We're going to have to go to the future and fix this thing. Yeah, we can't do this in 10 minutes. No. This thing's a mess. I mean, I got a cracked screen now, and, uh, you know, it's not even that bad. But I've seen people walk around with like a damn spider web on their phone. Yeah, ridiculous. I'm like, "How, when are you going to go get it fixed? What's the point?" It's like- Where the glass is falling off. That's an indication if you need to get your shit together. Yeah, that's true. (laughs) You know. Yeah, if your phone looks like a, like a, a haunted house. (laughs) Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, let's go into like a... You know, see if this girl's going to be crazy. Right. Like, how cracked is her screen? That's a good point. Like, "Give me your phone." Like, a girl who can deal with a little crack, that's probably a sign of character. Yeah, that's okay. She's cool. Just a little crack in the window, in the corner. No big deal. That's fine. She doesn't give a fuck. She's easygoing. Yeah. She doesn't even need to wear makeup, bro. (laughs) You know. But if she starts to do like this, and, and get the light just right, 'cause it's like a damn- I have to scroll up to make a tea. (laughs) ... it's a full on spiderweb. (laughs) 'Cause that part of the glass won't work anymore. Yeah.

Jamie Vernon 9:04 What about the other way they're going with the FlexPhone? 'Cause this-

Joe Rogan 9:07 Oh, now here we go.

Jamie Vernon 9:07 This isn't the one that broke, but this is another one that came out at CES too.

Joe Rogan 9:11 Mm.

Jamie Vernon 9:12 That they recalled. Samsung recalled the ones that are supposed to come out this week.

Joe Rogan 9:14 They recalled all of them, huh?

Jamie Vernon 9:15 Yeah, they had an unreleased date, and now they're not gonna... Who knows when they're gonna come out?

Joe Rogan 9:17 They breaken' like crazy apparently.

Jamie Vernon 9:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:19 FlexPhone. But then- So it's- ... is it flexible? It bends?

Jamie Vernon 9:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:22 Yeah. Well, how does that one work? All I'm seeing is like-

Jamie Vernon 9:25 Yeah. It's nice doing a video of that.

Joe Rogan 9:27 ... it opened up.

Jamie Vernon 9:27 Yeah, but the Samsung one had like a little teeny, uh, I don't know what you call it.

Joe Rogan 9:32 Oh, like a line in the center of it? Yeah.

Jamie Vernon 9:33 It looks like a little...

Joe Rogan 9:34 Flash.

Jamie Vernon 9:35 ... aquarium that you put sea monkeys in.

Joe Rogan 9:37 It does. (laughs) Right? It looks like one of them ones. It's like a pillar in a shitty hotel.

Jamie Vernon 9:42 (laughs) Yeah. Yeah. (laughs) Right.

Joe Rogan 9:45 Like in Miami or something. You're just staring at your phone for hours. Yeah, someone needs to clean the tank. (laughs) They have a, Huawei has a FlexPhone that looks way better than the Samsung one. It looks thinner, and it looks like they just nailed the design better. And on the side of it-

Jamie Vernon 10:00 Oh, this is it. I don't know why it has-

Joe Rogan 10:01 That's it?

Jamie Vernon 10:01 Yeah, it's a different company. I don't know. I don't know.

Joe Rogan 10:03 Oh, it's a different company-

Jamie Vernon 10:04 No, this one.

Joe Rogan 10:04 The same one?

Jamie Vernon 10:04 Oh, no. No, sorry. Royale, Flexpai beats Samsung and Huawei to market. Pop and sells out.

Joe Rogan 10:09 Hm.

Jamie Vernon 10:09 That's what this one was.

Joe Rogan 10:10 Does it fold- Hm. Does it fold in half?

Jamie Vernon 10:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:13 Yeah. They're, they're making these things where you can flex them and bend them like 1,000 times. Look at that. Oh my God. Oh, how weird.

Jamie Vernon 10:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:21 That's weird. How am I supposed to- Look how fat that thing is. That's like carrying a VHS tape in your pocket. (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 10:27 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 10:27 Right? I mean, I'm trying to imagine the advantages and disadvantages of watching porn on that thing. Oh, there's advantages. Yeah, 'cause like, well, I see your ass, and then you got to turn your phone upside down to see. (laughs) See the rest though. Right. That's pretty wild though, how it works.

Jamie Vernon 10:41 That is neat.

Joe Rogan 10:42 Yeah. Well-

Jamie Vernon 10:43 I'm kind of hoping it works, so that the version three or four in a couple years is way better than these broken ones. But...

Joe Rogan 10:48 Yeah. Well, for sure you're gonna see people at concerts holding up what looks like 12-inch iPads. Yeah. 'Cause it's gonna be these goddamn things in the future. I've seen that before now. Yeah. Oh yeah, people just bring iPads to Disneyland. Why would you do that? 'Cause they're assholes.

Jamie Vernon 11:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:04 They're everywhere. I mean, I, you're right. Yeah. I hate it, especially like a comedy show. It's like the phone's bad enough. Yeah. iPad? I have a Tesla, and, uh, the Tesla has this huge screen. Right. It's enormous. Yeah, yeah. And you get so used to it. Yeah. So I go from that to another car with a little tiny navigation screen. (laughs) I'm like, "What is this bullshit?" Yeah. It's funny how you get used to things. It's like I'd rather have a Thomas Guide. When I first... You remember those? (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 11:30 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:30 Did you have one of those?

Jamie Vernon 11:31 I did.

Joe Rogan 11:31 When you came to LA? God, you had to pull over every five feet. Bill Burr had one of those as recently as 2011. Wow. (laughs) He came to my house. Really? He came to my house in his fucking Prius. He still has a Prius, that asshole.

Jamie Vernon 11:45 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:45 (laughs) He's probably got a billion dollars, he's got a fucking Prius. Uh-huh. He pulls into my driveway, and, uh, I see the Thomas Guide in his back seat. He's like, "Yeah, those fucking, that navigation shit."

Jamie Vernon 11:54 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:54 "What if that goes down?" Yeah. "You can't figure your way around town." Yeah.You're lost up in the hills, no connection. Thomas guide works every time. (laughs) I knew how to do it, man. Like- I- ... back in the day. Oh, E10. Yeah. I know how to do that. You go E- (laughs) Yeah. ... and then you go to 10. Sorry. (laughs) That's where I need to go. Okay. What do I need to do? Huh. What? I would write it down. (laughs) Yeah, that was always dangerous. Fuck up and all of a sudden you're in a- (laughs) ... super Mexican community. Chickens are running across the street. Sun Valley, y- sounds great. (laughs) Yeah. Is Sun Valley a sketch? Never been to Sun Valley. I think it is. Yeah. (laughs) God, there's lots of spots. I've been there once. I got... I think I got lost, and I was like, "This is, this is not." So when you got rid of your Hemi, did you say, "Hey, this is from the Hemi guy." Like, "This should be worth some money." Yeah. Well, it was... I thought I could, like, um, auction it off. Yes. Yeah, on eBay. Like I took pictures with it and everything. It didn't work? Nah. It was like, it was re- it was li- I think it was when gas was at its highest price and people were like, "No, I think we're moving on to other things." So. It's pretty fucking high now. Yeah. It's closing in on five bucks a gallon. Yeah. Again. But I had it for, oh, about two years and then, uh- Why'd you get rid of it? Well, I was married at the time and that thing was hard. When I would leave and she'd have that car- Oh. ... it was just hard to back into the, to the garage or any... We had a small two door, two, uh, two car garage and it was hard to get that thing in there. And so she, it wa- she, she convinced me that, uh, we didn't need it. Mm. So then I g- we got a, uh, we, uh, leased a Lexus R- RX 350 for a while. Those are dope. I like them. I like them. When you drive a truck too- I like the backup camera in those things. That's very nice. Yeah. But you drive a truck and then you get into a little car like that, you're like, "Oh, I'm agile." Yeah. "I'm like a dancer." (laughs) Yeah. "I can move." Right, yeah. What was your first car? My first car was a 1973 Chevelle. Wow. Chevelle SS. Yeah. It was a shit box. I drove it from the guy's house to my house and then it died. Ah. It never, it never worked again. I think I drove it to my girlfriend's house and then I drove it back to my house. (laughs) That was it? And then it died. Yeah. And then I called the guy up, I'm like, "Hey, man, your fucking car died." (laughs) And, uh, he came and gave it ba- he gave me the money back and took his car. He said, "What happened to my car?" I'm like, "It died. Just doesn't work." Wow. And then day- So you'd had it for like a day. I had it for a day. (laughs) And then m- (laughs) That's horrible. Yeah, then I had a 1968 442 that I wrapped around a telephone pole. Oh, shit. Yeah, whoops. Hydroplaned. Yeah. Yeah, if you didn't know how to drive back then and you had, like, kinda balding tires- Yeah. ... and you hit some water- Yeah. ... cars would just go sideways. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And you're like, "What is this?" It's like you're floating in the air. Yeah, it's cra- it's a crazy feeling. Yeah. And you can't do anything about it. Nothing about it. It's n- They always tell you to turn into it. It's like- Good luck. ... nothing's happening. I was just going sideways. I was like, "I can't believe this shit." (laughs) "I just got this car." I had that one for a few months and then bang, fucked that one up. Just hydroplaning. Were you by yourself? Just hydroplaning. No, I was with a couple of guys from, uh, school. You might get hurt. No, we were all right. Yeah. But it fucked the car up. I was in a Fiero. Remember Fieros? Oh, yeah. My sister had one of those. It was like a little key chain. A little fake Ferrari thing. (laughs) Yeah. Yeah. Remember they used to do- Those were so small. They used to do Ferrari kits for those? Yes. So they'd turn into a fake Testarossa. Yeah. (laughs) Put a car bra on there. Yeah, those were, those were interesting. My friend, Joe, had one of those too. Those were cool little cars. That was amazing car, right? Oh. Tha- Yeah, them back, back in the day, it was like either... In, in my hometown, it was like- There it is. Yeah, that. That was a fake one. Yeah. (laughs) Look at that. Look at that ridiculous car. That's great. That is adorable. Th- Those cars are so gross when people do that. Yeah. And it's obvious. Well, it's like what are you... No one wants that once you get... Is that one? That can't... No, that... Is that a Fiero?

Jamie Vernon 15:34 That's a Fiero. That's what it says. It says, uh, 40K.

Joe Rogan 15:35 Wow. Great job. That's crazy. That one actually looks good. Yeah. What's happen to my Ford? You could trick some really dumb girls with that. (laughs) Like, if you go to Miami. Right. Like... Yeah. You- Let me see your cell phone. Those really, really dumb ones. Yeah. Like if you... That's the... Like, if you were only looking for really dumb gals. Yeah, that's your car. Dumb gold diggers. What is that in the back? Are those louvers? (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 15:55 What is that?

Joe Rogan 15:56 What is that in the back? Yeah, it looks like louvers. Glass louvers? Yeah, it's probably a plastic rear window. Oh my God. They make some cars with plastic windows just to save weight. Like, hey, relax. Relax with that. Yeah. (laughs) We, uh... My buddy and I, he, he had one of those. We hydroplaned. Mm-hmm. Spun around a couple times, totaled it, hit another car that was parked- Mm. ... at a body shop. Wow. And they had just finished it. No. I swear to God. Ooh. He's like- Oh.

Joe Rogan 16:26 ... "Cool. Uh, I guess I'm doing two cars." Geez. So he just left the cars there. (laughs) Fixed this one later. Totally by slamming into a car that was just finished at a body shop. Yeah. It was, uh, aggressive. Serendipitous. Uber is that guy's friend. Yeah. (laughs) You should get on, get on the Uber. Yeah. I love Uber. I wonder how much that's preventing drunk driving. I just had this conversation. Yeah? I think what, you know, Mothers Against Drunk Driving, MADD, you know. Maybe even the government should, like, kick in and go like, you know, "These guys are saving lives." Yeah, for sure. Yeah, 'cause i- if you're not doing that, then you're drinking and driving most likely. Most likely. Yeah. So it p- it gives you a real easy option. Yeah. Yeah. And it's so quick, it's so convenient. Mm-hmm. Yeah. You don't have to pull cash out. It's, it's great. It's kind of a weird organization though, both of them. It's like they're trying to figure out if they're employees- Right. Right, right. ... or if they're contractors. Yeah. And then there's like this fact that you're just getting into someone's car, you don't know them. Yeah. You know, I mean, you assume that you get a limo- Mm-hmm. ... that there's a background check. Right. If you get a cab, you're living on the edge. (laughs) Yeah. Taxi driver. Right? That's what I was gonna say, but you never know. Yeah, exactly. Taxi driver. Robert De Niro. 100... You looking at me? Yeah. (laughs) You're talking to motherfucking psychopath. Right. (laughs) Right? He... That's what you, like...

17:41 But you would get c- like, New York City cab drivers, you'd get characters. You'd get either, like, uh, angry white dudes or a, like, uh-

Jon Reep 17:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:49 ... guys who come from other countries that could tell you cool stories.

Jon Reep 17:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:52 You'd get, like, characters-

Jon Reep 17:53 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:53 ... with w- weird smells and shit.

Jon Reep 17:54 Yeah, crazy smells, lots of weird music, p- possibly a voodoo doll.

Joe Rogan 17:59 But now, you know what you get when you get into a New York City cab driver? You get advertisements. You get screens.

Jon Reep 18:04 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 18:04 Like, they have little laptops facing you.

Jon Reep 18:05 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:06 And they play these g- these-

Jon Reep 18:07 With credit machine back there.

Joe Rogan 18:09 Yeah. And they play these scr- these videos about things, about restaurants and this and that-

Jon Reep 18:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:14 ... and shows, Barbie shows.

Jon Reep 18:15 That's probably has its own network at this point.

Joe Rogan 18:18 Yeah.

Jon Reep 18:18 Like, just the cab network.

Joe Rogan 18:20 It is kinda, right? It must be.

Jon Reep 18:22 Uh, yeah. I've seen, uh-

Joe Rogan 18:23 Each company probably has their own little loop that they play.

Jon Reep 18:24 Jimmy Fallon, I mean, uh, I've seen him on there many times-

Joe Rogan 18:27 Yeah.

Jon Reep 18:27 ... doing stuff.

Joe Rogan 18:29 Remember they used to do that HBO show, Taxi Cab Confessions?

Jon Reep 18:31 Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:32 That was crazy.

Jon Reep 18:33 I enjoyed that.

Joe Rogan 18:34 I was like, "Who the fuck is signing this release?"

Jon Reep 18:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:37 "What are you giving these people?"

Jon Reep 18:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:39 (laughs)

Jon Reep 18:40 It's like, "I just wanna be on TV." And they would say the worst stuff.

Joe Rogan 18:43 Like, if you're fucked up on coke and you get into a, a, a, a cab and you start just talking shit about all the crazy sexual stuff that you like.

Jon Reep 18:51 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:51 And then, and then afterwards they're like, "Hey, you gonna be on HBO?" You're like, "Fuck yeah, I am."

Jon Reep 18:55 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:55 "You sign that thing." And then you wake up in the morning, "No!"

Jon Reep 18:57 "What did I do?"

Joe Rogan 18:59 That's true.

Jon Reep 19:00 You don't know who to call.

Joe Rogan 19:01 (laughs)

Jon Reep 19:01 You give them that, this, uh, this waiver at the right time.

Joe Rogan 19:04 Yeah.

Jon Reep 19:04 That's, that's gold. That's a good move.

Joe Rogan 19:06 How does that work?

Jon Reep 19:08 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:08 D- like, does that waiver count-

Jon Reep 19:08 Well, you don't tell before they get there.

Joe Rogan 19:09 ... if you're hammered?

Jon Reep 19:11 I, I, I... There's gotta be some loophole.

Joe Rogan 19:13 Like, I always wondered about that, um, the Catch a Predator show.

Jon Reep 19:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:18 Why the fuck would they sign a re- they have to sign a release.

Jon Reep 19:21 Do they?

Joe Rogan 19:22 Yes. Or cops, they have to sign a release.

Jon Reep 19:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:25 Yeah, you have to sign a release. So how-

Jon Reep 19:27 Yeah. And then there's, like, the, is it entrapment even, you know? There was that whole thing too.

Joe Rogan 19:32 Well, that show's definitely entrapment (clears throat) .

Jon Reep 19:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:35 But it's entrapment I support.

Jon Reep 19:37 Yeah, totally.

Joe Rogan 19:37 I support entrapment if it's like-

Jon Reep 19:39 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:39 ... "Hey do you wanna fuck a six-year-old?"

Jon Reep 19:41 100%.

Joe Rogan 19:41 And they're like, "Yeah, I do." "Okay, get in the cage you fucking piece of shit."

Jon Reep 19:45 (laughs) That's right.

Joe Rogan 19:45 Yeah, there's ce- certain entrapment that I'm all for.

Jon Reep 19:48 Yeah. No, I, I agree.

Joe Rogan 19:48 Someone could talk you into fucking anybody under 18.

Jon Reep 19:51 Right. But I, I, I-

Joe Rogan 19:53 Or 17.

Jon Reep 19:53 ... how do they get away with that?

Joe Rogan 19:55 How do they get away with that?

Jon Reep 19:55 Showing their face. Maybe because it, they were proven guilty-

Joe Rogan 20:00 Mm-hmm.

Jon Reep 20:00 ... that you waived your rights. But just by being guilty, you have no rights when you're-

Joe Rogan 20:04 I don't think so.

Jon Reep 20:05 ... a felon, right?

Joe Rogan 20:05 I think you actually-

Jon Reep 20:05 When you're a felon, you have no rights. Is that right?

Joe Rogan 20:07 (coughs) Well, you have rights. Bernie Sanders wants you to be able to vote even if you're a terrorist. Have you seen that?

Jon Reep 20:14 (sighs) .

Joe Rogan 20:14 He's like, "Anybody in jail for anything."

Jon Reep 20:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:16 He's like, "You should still be able to vote." I'm like, "Ooh, okay."

Jon Reep 20:18 Okay.

Joe Rogan 20:19 I don't know, there's a lot of people in jail.

Jon Reep 20:21 That's true.

Joe Rogan 20:23 What if they count as residents of the state? Like, what if you have, like, a maximum security prison somewhere?

Jon Reep 20:28 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 20:28 Right? And these prisoners have everything till, uh, like, they have all day, right?

Jon Reep 20:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:32 They don't have anything to do and they register to vote while they're in there. If you have a few hundred thousand prisoners-

Jon Reep 20:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:39 ... you literally can shift an election one way or the other.

Jon Reep 20:42 That's true.

Joe Rogan 20:43 All you'd have to do is get into that prison and go, "Hey guys, here's the deal. Um, I'm, I'm for shortening your fucking sentences, okay?"

Jon Reep 20:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:50 "I'm for getting you better lawyers." People would start campaigning in prisons.

Jon Reep 20:53 That's true. (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:54 That's legit, man.

Jon Reep 20:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:55 Like, "These laws are bullshit, man."

Jon Reep 20:56 And you could bribe them real easy with the little ketchup.

Joe Rogan 21:00 Cigarettes.

Jon Reep 21:00 Cigarettes. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 21:01 Bring in cigarettes.

Jon Reep 21:02 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:02 Yeah, you just truck in cartons-

Jon Reep 21:04 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:04 ... of cigarettes. What's-

Jon Reep 21:05 How'd you win this election? Marlboro Reds.

Joe Rogan 21:07 What's that guy's name? Buttigieg?

Jon Reep 21:09 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:10 How do you say his name?

Jamie Vernon 21:11 I, uh, you got it.

Joe Rogan 21:12 Tulsi Gabbard's my girl. I'm voting for her, I decided. I like her. I met her in person, fuck it.

Jon Reep 21:16 Who is it? I don't know.

Joe Rogan 21:17 I give up. I give up.

Jon Reep 21:19 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 21:19 Not, I'm not even paying attention to anything else.

Jon Reep 21:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 21:21 Tulsi Gabbard. Uh, but, um, if you could go into a prison, like, what is a, what's a bi- what's a giant prison population? Like, what's the biggest prison?

Jon Reep 21:32 Oh God. The biggest, biggest one? I don't know.

Joe Rogan 21:33 What do you think the biggest one is?

Jon Reep 21:34 The biggest one? Uh, I don't know. Would it be in New York?

Joe Rogan 21:37 California? There was that one in... Isn't there a giant one in Colorado that Joey always talks about?

Jon Reep 21:41 Probably. That's the one where they take the serial killers, they stuff them underground.

Joe Rogan 21:45 (laughs)

Jon Reep 21:46 Isn't there, um... What is the-

Joe Rogan 21:48 Well, I mean, what's the biggest one? Uh, 50,000?

Jon Reep 21:50 Let's take a guess before he looks it up.

Joe Rogan 21:52 Okay.

Jon Reep 21:52 Did you say 50,000 prisoners? Ah, yeah, I don't know much about that.

Joe Rogan 21:55 That's probably a lot of people. Think about an arena.

Jon Reep 21:58 50,000 spread out.

Joe Rogan 21:58 A football arena.

Jon Reep 22:00 Right.

Joe Rogan 22:00 It's a, it's a f-

Jon Reep 22:01 Oh, that's true. Okay. Well, no. Okay, 50 to 60,000, the biggest one.

Joe Rogan 22:05 The biggest, yeah.

Jon Reep 22:07 What's the smallest? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 22:09 The smallest is probably some rinky-dinky ones.

Jon Reep 22:11 Otis. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:11 But I bet... I'm gonna say a little-

Jon Reep 22:13 Have you been in jail?

Joe Rogan 22:14 No.

Jon Reep 22:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:15 I'm gonna say a little lighter. I'm gonna say 30,000.

Jon Reep 22:18 Okay.

Joe Rogan 22:18 So I'm gonna say 30,000 is the biggest.

Jon Reep 22:20 Will you put money on this?

Joe Rogan 22:21 I'll put a dollar on this. I don't give a fuck, bro.

Jon Reep 22:24 I'll put two dollars.

Joe Rogan 22:24 I'll bet you a Heineken Double Zero.

Jon Reep 22:26 (Laughs) Oh, shit.

Joe Rogan 22:27 What do we got, Jimmy?

Jon Reep 22:28 Too rich for my blood.

Joe Rogan 22:30 What do we got? Jimmy's confused.

Jamie Vernon 22:33 Well, I, I have to be very specific about what I look up to find this answer.

Joe Rogan 22:36 (clears throat)

Jamie Vernon 22:37 So do you want largest maximum security?

Joe Rogan 22:39 Sure, yeah.

Jon Reep 22:40 Okay.

Joe Rogan 22:40 Killers, not people-

Jamie Vernon 22:42 Okay.

Joe Rogan 22:42 ... who smoke weed.

Jamie Vernon 22:42 Uh, known as Alcatraz of the South-

Joe Rogan 22:45 Hmm.

Jamie Vernon 22:45 ... the Louisiana State Penitentiary-

Joe Rogan 22:46 Oh, here we go.

Jamie Vernon 22:47 ... has an inmate population of 5,000.

Joe Rogan 22:50 (laughs) That's it?

Jon Reep 22:51 Wow (laughs) .

Jamie Vernon 22:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:52 Damn, we way off.

Jon Reep 22:53 We were way off.

Jamie Vernon 22:53 But that's maximum security, so like if you go-

Jon Reep 22:54 Oh, if that's like super criminals.

Jamie Vernon 22:56 Yes, so if you go a little bit less-

Jon Reep 22:57 Okay.

Jamie Vernon 22:57 ... then it might be a little bit higher, but-

Joe Rogan 22:59 Okay, let's go with thieves. Let's go with medium security.

Jon Reep 23:04 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:04 What's, maximum is, like, violent crimes, right?

Jon Reep 23:06 What's the biggest prison?

Joe Rogan 23:08 Yeah. The biggest prison.

Jamie Vernon 23:10 That's what I... I looked up largest prison.

Joe Rogan 23:11 Yeah.

Jamie Vernon 23:11 That's the thing that popped up, so...

Joe Rogan 23:12 Okay.

Jon Reep 23:12 Damn.

Jamie Vernon 23:13 I tried to give you-

Jon Reep 23:13 I don't... Five?

Jamie Vernon 23:14 ... a more specific.

Joe Rogan 23:14 Maybe where we are.

Jon Reep 23:16 5,000, that's a lot of people.

Joe Rogan 23:16 Sometimes it looks bigger.

Jamie Vernon 23:17 But yeah, ADX in Florence, it's a supermax prison.

Joe Rogan 23:19 Mm-hmm.

Jamie Vernon 23:20 If there's one ol- supermax prison, that's the one I think you're talking about.

Joe Rogan 23:23 Okay.

Jamie Vernon 23:23 That's even higher, but that would probably have way less people. I'm trying to see if it says-

Joe Rogan 23:27 Oh, that's even higher criminal level?

Jamie Vernon 23:29 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:29 That was, like, where they put the Ice Man.

Jamie Vernon 23:30 23 hours a day.

Joe Rogan 23:32 Dun dun dun.

Jamie Vernon 23:33 Single cell confinement. Um, 5,000 is a lot of people.

Joe Rogan 23:39 Confinement is so weird.'Cause, like, we're just-

Jon Reep 23:42 (coughs)

Joe Rogan 23:42 ... we're killing you, but we're just killing you with nature. We're gonna kill you with old age and shitty nutrition.

Jon Reep 23:46 Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:47 They're just gonna keep you in a box.

Jon Reep 23:48 Kill you with your own brain.

Joe Rogan 23:49 Isn't that weird?

Jon Reep 23:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:50 It's like, it might be more cruel to put someone into a small cage for 23 hours a day than it is to just kill them.

Jon Reep 23:57 I think so.

Joe Rogan 23:58 Yeah.

Jon Reep 23:58 If you just kill your child, but with-

Joe Rogan 24:00 (coughs) Yeah, you're suffering.

Jon Reep 24:02 ... something laying about it.

Joe Rogan 24:02 It's suffering. Yeah, 100%.

Jon Reep 24:04 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:04 100%. Like, that was, uh, my, my take on, uh, Chelsea Manning, who's now free.

Jon Reep 24:11 Yeah?

Joe Rogan 24:11 Like, they tortured her. They tortured her.

Jon Reep 24:13 They did?

Joe Rogan 24:14 Yeah, she was naked in a cage w- uh, by herself for years.

Jon Reep 24:19 Oh.

Joe Rogan 24:19 I think it was, like, uh, uh, the, the whole... She was in solitary. We're gonna have to find this out once Jamie's done with this search.

Jamie Vernon 24:25 I'm just, I'm, like, looking around. There's, uh, the one in California's male only where Manson is, it's got 3500. There's one in-

Joe Rogan 24:31 Wow.

Jamie Vernon 24:31 ... Illinois, medium security, it's got 1000.

Jon Reep 24:33 Man-

Joe Rogan 24:33 Okay, so-

Jon Reep 24:34 ... we were way off.

Joe Rogan 24:35 We're way off.

Jon Reep 24:36 Way off.

Joe Rogan 24:36 By a factor-

Jon Reep 24:37 We are so pessimistic. (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 24:38 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:38 I thought it was going low when I was off by a factor of 10.

Jamie Vernon 24:40 It says, uh, I don't know if it's just us counting them too, there's private ones, and I don't know if I can get the numbers on private.

Joe Rogan 24:45 Hmm, those dirty bastards stuff them in on top of each other and call it millions.

Jon Reep 24:48 Al- although, it makes sense if there were, uh, 30,000 inmates in one place. I mean, it would be hard to contain that and control that.

Joe Rogan 24:56 Yeah, what's the largest private prison? See if that's... (coughs) Yeah, so but the Chelsea Manning thing, she was in solitary confinement-

Jon Reep 25:05 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 25:06 ... when she was still a dude. Does that count, like, uh, as her being... Like how do you say that?

Jon Reep 25:10 That's two different sentences. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:11 How do you say that? Do you say Bradley or do you say Chelsea, when she hadn't changed yet?

Jon Reep 25:16 I, I think we have to ask.

Joe Rogan 25:18 Do you still say Bruce Jenner won the Olympics or do you say Caitlyn?

Jon Reep 25:20 Well, Bruce won the Olympics.

Joe Rogan 25:22 No, no, no. Caitlyn.

Jon Reep 25:23 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 25:23 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:23 What does it say? He's Caitlyn now. You can't-

Jon Reep 25:25 He's Caitlyn now.

Joe Rogan 25:26 You know if you deadname him, you'll get kicked off of Twitter?

Jon Reep 25:28 Deadname him?

Joe Rogan 25:29 Do you know what that deadnaming is?

Jon Reep 25:30 No, I never heard of deadnaming. No.

Joe Rogan 25:32 So say if you'd become-

Jon Reep 25:33 Oh, God.

Joe Rogan 25:33 ... Johanna Reep.

Jon Reep 25:35 Yes.

Joe Rogan 25:35 If you decided, at this stage of the game, "You know what? Fuck Hemis." (laughs)

Jon Reep 25:38 I'm transitioning. Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:39 Yeah. I'm, I'm, I'm wearing skirts and-

Jon Reep 25:40 It's time for Prius and-

Joe Rogan 25:41 Yeah, it's time to get my legs waxed through.

Jamie Vernon 25:44 Reeves County Detention Complex in Pasos, Texas has a combined capacity of 3,763 prisoners in its three sub-complexes.

Joe Rogan 25:53 Wow. So that's probably about as big as it gets.

Jamie Vernon 25:57 Yeah, if this is-

Jon Reep 25:57 If you've dug that far and you still can't get anything over 5000?

Joe Rogan 26:01 (clears throat) Yeah. So it's in the 30s. The 3300-

Jon Reep 26:03 Interesting.

Joe Rogan 26:03 ... 3500.

Jon Reep 26:04 What about the world? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:06 So if you, you change your name to Johanna Reep-

Jon Reep 26:08 Johanna Reep.

Joe Rogan 26:09 ... and, uh, I started saying, "Hey, John Reep, what's it like wearing dresses? Pretend you're a girl."

Jon Reep 26:14 Right.

Joe Rogan 26:14 That's deadnaming you. I deadnamed you 'cause I called you John.

Jon Reep 26:18 Right. 'Cause I choose-

Joe Rogan 26:19 When your name is Johanna.

Jon Reep 26:20 Right. Right. Well, but, but Bruce r- Bruce is the one who won the Olympics.

Joe Rogan 26:24 Yeah, but that's his deadname.

Jon Reep 26:25 Well, that's what he was when he won. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:26 Don't be an asshole, John.

Jamie Vernon 26:28 I got something.

Jon Reep 26:28 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 26:28 God, you're so insensitive.

Jon Reep 26:29 Sorry.

Jamie Vernon 26:29 I can't believe this.

Jon Reep 26:30 I hate facts. (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 26:30 In this day and age, I'm gonna make you subscribe to the Melissa Melan- Melanno Podcast.

Jon Reep 26:34 Oh, no.

Jamie Vernon 26:35 So you're gonna get your shit together.

Jon Reep 26:36 Oh, shit.

Joe Rogan 26:37 You need to get up with the times, bro.

Jon Reep 26:39 I'm a follower. (laughs) So way behind. I'm just kidding about Melissa Melanno. I don't know what she's doing.

Joe Rogan 26:43 Ugh. I don't either.

Jon Reep 26:44 That was a good name though, to throw around.

Joe Rogan 26:45 Oh, yeah.

Jamie Vernon 26:46 Alyssa Milano.

Joe Rogan 26:47 (clears throat)

Jon Reep 26:48 What, so... She's a woman.

Joe Rogan 26:49 So, is she, she's active on the, on the Twittersphere?

Jamie Vernon 26:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:51 I believe so. Yeah.

Jamie Vernon 26:52 Yeah, she's very political.

Joe Rogan 26:53 Yeah.

Jamie Vernon 26:53 She's always, uh, arguing with people I think.

Jon Reep 26:56 Okay.

Joe Rogan 26:56 That was one of them people. You know, they, they booted John Woods. You know, John Woods, the actor? They booted him off the Twitter, again.

Jon Reep 27:03 What did he-

Joe Rogan 27:03 I think he did something naughty. I, I don't think he did anything that big a deal.

Jon Reep 27:07 What di- Wait.

Joe Rogan 27:07 He kept getting kicked-

Jon Reep 27:07 First of all, who's John Woods?

Joe Rogan 27:09 Refresh my memory.

Jamie Vernon 27:10 We got it. We got something.

Jon Reep 27:10 James Woods. I'm sorry.

Joe Rogan 27:10 Oh, James Woods.

Jon Reep 27:11 James Woods. I'm sorry.

Joe Rogan 27:11 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jamie Vernon 27:12 I'm saying John Woods. People are probably mad if we... They probably know this. Uh-

Jon Reep 27:15 What?

Jamie Vernon 27:15 New York City's Rikers Island-

Jon Reep 27:17 Mm-hmm.

Jamie Vernon 27:17 ... has a population of 11,000, but I don't know if that means they're all prisoners or not.

Joe Rogan 27:22 Uh-

Jamie Vernon 27:22 I might mean like there's people that live- There's probably workers that live on the island.

Joe Rogan 27:26 People who want cheap rent.

Jon Reep 27:27 It might be half.

Jamie Vernon 27:28 They might not count as, uh... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:29 Yeah. Do they really?

Jamie Vernon 27:31 It says it can accommodate up to 15,000 prisoners.

Joe Rogan 27:34 Wow.

Jon Reep 27:34 Visitors.

Joe Rogan 27:34 15,000 prisoners.

Jon Reep 27:36 Okay.

Joe Rogan 27:36 So that's about as big as it gets.

Jamie Vernon 27:37 Now we're getting closer.

Jon Reep 27:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:38 Yeah. Now we're in the neighborhood.

Jamie Vernon 27:39 There's one in Turkey that's got 10,900.

Jon Reep 27:42 Hmm. Okay, so that's about as big as it gets.

Joe Rogan 27:44 Still-

Jamie Vernon 27:44 15,000-

Joe Rogan 27:45 Yeah.

Jamie Vernon 27:45 That's a lot though, if you go to a theater. Like, if you did an arena-

Joe Rogan 27:48 Yeah.

Jamie Vernon 27:48 ... like, 15,000 people is like Madison Square Garden.

Joe Rogan 27:50 Right.

Jon Reep 27:51 That's a lot of fucking criminals.

Joe Rogan 27:53 (laughs) Yeah. You gotta take care of it all.

Jon Reep 27:55 You got to take care of it. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 27:56 You got a baton?

Jon Reep 27:58 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 27:58 So the, the Chelsea Manning thing, like, now she's free, but then she got locked up again for contempt of court. But I think when she was locked up in solitary confinement, they took away her clothes. They wouldn't let her have clothes 'cause they thought she was suicidal.

Jon Reep 28:12 Really?

Joe Rogan 28:12 Mm-hmm. But I think that's just an excuse they use.

Jon Reep 28:14 So when they... Okay, so when Chelsea-

Joe Rogan 28:16 To keep her cold.

Jon Reep 28:17 ... was a male-

Joe Rogan 28:18 Yes. Don't say Bradley.

Jon Reep 28:21 He's in a... Right. I'm trying to not deadname.

Joe Rogan 28:23 Fucking asshole. Don't do it.

Jon Reep 28:23 What, so... (laughs) When Chelsea won the Olympics...

Joe Rogan 28:26 Yeah.

Jon Reep 28:27 Um, was that... Was, was Chelsea-

Joe Rogan 28:30 She didn't win the Olympics.

Jon Reep 28:30 I know. I'm done. I'm trying to do that.

Joe Rogan 28:33 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 28:34 (laughs)

Jon Reep 28:34 Was, was he in a male prison?

Joe Rogan 28:37 That's a good question.

Jon Reep 28:37 And then, as a female, does he go to a female prison?

Joe Rogan 28:40 That's a good question.

Jon Reep 28:41 Okay. Thank you.

Joe Rogan 28:42 I don't know. Maybe that's why they put her in solitary.

Jon Reep 28:45 Oh, right, right.

Joe Rogan 28:46 Protect her from dudes. (sighs)

Jon Reep 28:48 I mean, that's kind of a, a loophole that, uh, let's say if I know I'm going to prison and I got, like, a year before I get sentenced, I might just go ahead and get that sex change.

Joe Rogan 28:58 Right.

Jon Reep 28:58 So I'm with females.

Joe Rogan 28:59 Right.

Jon Reep 29:00 I don't know. Maybe I have a-

Joe Rogan 29:01 Yeah.

Jon Reep 29:01 ... better chance of surviving.

Joe Rogan 29:01 Or just, you don't have to get the sex change anymore. You just have to identify.

Jon Reep 29:05 Oh, okay, there you go. I'm good.

Joe Rogan 29:07 Do you see that, um, male who identifies as a female just broke all these world records in weightlifting?

Jon Reep 29:12 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 29:12 It's a new one. Just came out.

Jon Reep 29:14 No.

Joe Rogan 29:14 Wonderful.

Jon Reep 29:15 That's...

Joe Rogan 29:16 Congratulations, everybody. You broke everything.

Jon Reep 29:19 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 29:19 You fucking... You are so progressive-

Jon Reep 29:22 Here we go.

Jamie Vernon 29:22 We're all the same. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 29:22 ... and so preposterous that we broke everything.

Jon Reep 29:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:25 You have men that are winning w- winning women's world records in fucking weightlifting.

Jon Reep 29:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:30 Which is, like, the dumbest shit-

Jon Reep 29:32 I agree.

Joe Rogan 29:32 ... for men and women to compete against. If there's ever one thing. If one... Even though, like, the tennis argument. It's like, "Well, you know, Billie Jean King beat Bobby Riggs." Yeah.

Jon Reep 29:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:40 But Bobby Riggs was 55.

Jon Reep 29:42 Right.

Joe Rogan 29:43 She was 29.

Jon Reep 29:44 Right.

Joe Rogan 29:44 And they say that he threw the match 'cause he bet against himself.

Jon Reep 29:48 Oh, right. He was a big, uh, gambler.

Joe Rogan 29:50 That was what I heard.

Jon Reep 29:51 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:51 But I would say that too if I lost.

Jon Reep 29:53 Yeah. (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:53 You know, I would say I threw the match.

Jon Reep 29:55 Yeah. Well, uh, yeah. Basketball, tennis-

Joe Rogan 29:57 Look at this. Is this the woman?

Jamie Vernon 29:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:59 The one?

Jamie Vernon 29:59 Yes.

Jon Reep 30:00 It says Chelsea?

Joe Rogan 30:01 (clears throat) This is, uh, the woman who's winning-

Jon Reep 30:03 This is not Bruce Jenner.

Joe Rogan 30:04 ... world records.

Jon Reep 30:05 Okay.

Joe Rogan 30:05 Let's get a look.

Jon Reep 30:06 Oh, my God.

Jamie Vernon 30:06 Oh, yes.

Joe Rogan 30:07 Here we go.

Jon Reep 30:07 Seems like a gal.

Joe Rogan 30:09 Huh.

30:10 That seems like a very strong man. (laughs)

30:15 (laughs) (coughs)

30:15 Yeah.

30:16 That's so ridiculous. How much weight is that?

30:17 It doesn't look like a lot of weight. It's a couple 100 pounds.

30:20 Oh, this is, this is about, this is about reps here?

30:21 Yeah.

30:22 Okay.

30:22 It's 300, 300, uh, 315.

30:24 15?

30:24 Yeah.

30:25 I'm like, "What is-"

30:25 Okay. That's a s- ridiculous amount of weight for a woman to lift, and to d- to v-

30:30 Yeah.

30:30 For, if, if you're gonna be a real woman, a biological woman, excuse me, and lift that kinda weight, you have to be a real outlier.

30:36 Yeah.

30:37 It's, uh, it's very rare.

30:38 Yeah.

30:38 But this is so ridiculous.

30:40 Wow. Yeah.

30:42 Oh, my... What is this? (laughs) What is this guy's quote?

30:44 What does it say? (laughs)

30:44 What does this guy, one guy in the comments say? "Congratulations on your excellent performance. Screw anybody who tries to knock achievements. The hard work speaks for itself." Hey.

30:51 Yeah.

30:52 Whoever you are, fuck you.

30:53 Yeah.

30:54 Fuck you-

30:54 Yeah, fuck you. (laughs)

30:55 ... and your nonsense.

30:56 Joe K. Gilbert-

30:56 You're the reason why this shit is happening in the first place, 'cause people tolerate this.

31:00 Yeah.

31:00 That is nuts. If you, if you had a daughter that trained her whole life to be a weightlifter and she's really into it, and this fucking guy decides... He identifies as a woman and then competes-

31:09 Comes in.

31:10 ... as a woman in weightlifting, just fucking stop.

31:13 Yeah.

31:13 Everybody just stop. You're in crazy town. This is officially crazy town.

31:19 Yeah. (laughs) Yeah.

31:19 We're out of our fucking minds.

31:20 I don't know how it's legal.

31:22 How is it legal?

31:23 Well, it shouldn't be legal.

31:23 It's, it has nothing to do with being open-minded or tolerant. It has something to do with logic.

31:28 Right.

31:28 Just basic reason. This is craziness. This is, you're enabling people to do something that's preposterous.

31:33 Mm-hmm.

31:34 This has nothing to do with being open-minded or kind to people. I'm 100% for people being trans.

31:39 Sure.

31:39 I'm 100% for people doing whatever they wanna do. Just don't hurt anybody and I'm cool with that.

31:43 Same here.

31:44 But this is just... You're in make-believe town. Why not pretend you're a fox and go live in the forest?

31:48 (laughs)

31:49 Like, you're, you're in make-believe.

31:50 Yeah.

31:50 This is make-believe. You can't, you can't just decide you're a woman and compete with women.

31:55 Right. No.

31:56 This is, that's make-believe. You c- "Oh, I, there's no advantage." Make-believe. That's make-believe.

32:00 It is make-believe.

32:00 Of course there's an advantage.

32:02 (laughs) Yes.

32:02 You fucking know there's an advantage.

32:04 Uh, yes.

32:05 Everyone knows. This is crazy.

32:07 I wanna, uh, see that in the NFL. You know? You got, like-

32:11 What is that before and after?

32:12 Oh, my God.

32:13 Or is that two different looks?

32:14 That's the-

32:14 We don't need to see this person.

32:16 That's the same person? I don't know.

32:16 Wait a second. I s- I don't wanna shame this person. Look, someone's letting her do this.

32:20 Right.

32:20 You know? It's, it's-

32:20 That's the problem.

32:21 That's the problem. There should s- There should be a transgender-

32:24 It's not her.

32:24 ... league.

32:24 Right.

32:24 Or there should be, you know, some rules where you have to compete with the chromosome of your birth. You don't have to fucking compete. Most people don't compete in organized sports.

32:34 Right.

32:34 Most people don't.

32:35 No.

32:35 And if you're trans, maybe that should be something. You can't do it... And, and particularly for girls who transition to boys. You know that school, um, in Texas that won't let... This girl was transitioning to a boy. They won't let her compete with boys. So they make her compete with girls and she's on fucking testosterone.

32:51 Right. (laughs)

32:51 So she's taking testosterone to be... Or he's taking testosterone. Whatever you wanna say.

32:56 Right.

32:56 I'm, I get so confused.

32:57 I, yeah.

32:58 To become a boy-

32:58 (laughs)

32:59 Xir is taking testosterone-

33:00 Xir.

33:00 ... to become a boy.

33:01 Yes.

33:01 And then now is forced to wrestle with women.

33:05 Yes.

33:05 With young girls-

33:07 Yeah.

33:07 ... in fact. All jacked.

33:08 Right.

33:09 Jacked like a boy. It's like a boy wrestling girls.

33:11 (exhales)

33:11 It's crazy.

33:12 Probably pop a boner doing that.

33:14 I don't think she has one yet.

33:15 Oh.

33:15 You can get a little thumb.

33:16 (laughs)

33:16 They grow... You grow a thumb.

33:18 Yeah.

33:18 That's what happens.

33:19 Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

33:20 The clitoris gets a little bit bigger. Gets bigger. Yeah.

33:22 Yeah. And do the ovaries sort of, like, start getting suspended in a...

33:26 I don't know what happens there.

33:26 Do they come, do they drop? What do they do? Do they-

33:28 I wonder. I wonder if they remove those parts, you know, because they do hysterectomies on women when they have diseases. I wonder if they do that when a man, when a m- man transitions from a woman.

33:37 Yeah. When a man transitions from a woman.

33:41 Yeah. When you used to be a woman and now you're a man.

33:42 And now you're going to a dude.

33:43 Yeah. What do they do? I just can't wait till the t- the day where they can do it genetically, where a woman really becomes a woman. Like, a man becomes a woman, or a wo- woman becomes a man. But guess what? Even if they do, here's the issue. If you knew that a woman took steroids for 30 years-

34:00 Mm-hmm.

34:01 ... and developed insane tendon strength and muscle strength and then stopped doing steroids, it is a scientific fact that you are going to keep a very big percentage of those gains.

34:13 Okay.

34:13 What are the gain-... What is the percentage? Is it 30% or 40%? Whatever the fuck it is, whatever percentage that you would keep after you get off the steroids-

34:20 Uh-huh.

34:20 ... that is significant.

34:22 Yeah.

34:22 And even if you're not currently on these performance-enhancing drugs, your body has been artificially boosted to this superior level-

34:32 Yeah.

34:32 ... through these drugs.

34:33 Yeah. And you lose a lot of the feminine-

34:35 Mm-hmm.

34:35 You know? You lose the breasts.

34:36 Yes.

34:37 And that, uh, that, uh, those might not come back.

34:39 Uh, well, I mean, I think if you take estrogen, they'll probably come back, right?

34:41 Oh, yeah.

34:42 I don't know. I'm not a fucking doctor.

34:43 (laughs)

34:44 I'm a moron. But what I do know-

34:45 (laughs)

34:45 ... is when this is, we're in l- nonsense land.

34:48 Yeah.

34:48 Because it's not-

34:49 It is.

34:49 This is not saying that someone can't become a woman and be a woman and I'll ta- I'll call them a woman. I'll treat them like a woman. I'm cool with it.

34:56 Yeah.

34:56 I'm 100% cool with it.

34:57 Right.

34:57 I'm, I'm an as open-minded as I come with this. But this is, this is unfair for women-

35:01 It is.

35:02 ... which is what's so ironic about this.

35:04 Yeah.

35:04 Because everyone's supposed to be looking out for women. If you're looking out for women, but you're also blindly progressive to the point where you're letting shit like this fly-

35:11 Yeah.

35:11 ... well, then now you're not looking out for women.

35:13 Right.

35:14 Because now women are in this weird position where you're putting them at an unfair disadvantage.

35:19 Right.

35:19 It's fucking crazy, man.

35:20 I agree.

35:21 Goddamn it. It makes me wanna drink real Heineken.

35:24 (laughs)

35:25 I'm getting all-

35:25 Do you have any, man?

35:26 ... loopy on this double zero.

35:27 (laughs)

35:28 No, they just sent this stuff to me. It's good.

35:30 Yeah.

35:32 Um, I don't know.

35:32 I used to love Heineken Light.

35:34 I talk about that subject a little bit too much, but it's just, it's a symptom of a, a sick society.

35:39 Yeah.

35:40 And it's, it's a symptom of a lack of rational thinking. It's a symptom-

35:43 Yeah.

35:43 ... of people just, just be- being, bending over backwards so hard to be progressive and open-minded that you're just, you're giving into these f- extremists, these crazy people that are looking at this thing completely delusionally.

Joe Rogan 35:57 When will it snap back? I mean, it's-

35:58 It's coming. Trump.

36:00 Right.

36:00 That's why Trump's president.

36:01 That's what that is.

36:01 He's gonna win again.

36:03 Yeah, I don't... Who's gonna-

36:03 He's gonna win again.

36:04 Oh, then who can beat him?

36:05 They're not gonna beat him.

36:06 There's no one who can right now.

36:07 He's gonna win again.

36:08 Yeah.

36:08 He's gonna win again because of shit like this.

36:10 Right.

36:10 The more shit like this happens, there's a, this-

36:12 So then what's after Trump?

Jamie Vernon 36:14 Joe Rogan

Narrator 36:14 joe rogan

Jon Reep 36:14 Joe Rogan

Joe Rogan 36:14 Joe Rogan & Joe Rogan:

Jamie Vernon 36:14 donald jr.

Jon Reep 36:14 I mean there's another four years...

Joe Rogan 36:15 His son. Donald Jr.

Jon Reep 36:17 Donald Jr.

Joe Rogan 36:17 Donald Jr. was, uh, with, uh, a friend of a friend of mine. Uh, his name's Crispy and he, he's a, a, a disabled veteran or a sh- he's very able, I should say.

Jon Reep 36:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:28 But he's a wounded veteran. He's, he was missing... He had his leg amputated, burns over most of his body.

Jon Reep 36:34 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 36:35 Super positive attitude.

Jon Reep 36:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:36 Great guy. Anyways, he doesn't get political online. He took a picture with Donald Trump Jr.

Jon Reep 36:41 Right.

Joe Rogan 36:41 And Instagram took it down for violating their terms of service. It's just a photo.

Jon Reep 36:46 A picture of just-

Joe Rogan 36:48 Photo with him-

Jon Reep 36:48 ... the president's son?

Joe Rogan 36:49 Yeah, photo with him and Trump Jr. just standing there, and they took the picture down.

Jon Reep 36:53 That's-

Joe Rogan 36:53 Like, what?

Jon Reep 36:54 That's not-

Joe Rogan 36:55 What are you doing?

Jon Reep 36:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:56 Maybe there's a glitch.

Jon Reep 36:57 What did they give... Do they ever... When they do that, do they give you a reason or they just do what they want?

Joe Rogan 37:01 Well, he posted it on his... He sent me a direct message about it too.

Jon Reep 37:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:07 I asked... I- I actually reached out to him-

Jon Reep 37:09 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 37:09 ... because, uh, I follow him and he follows me and I was like, "Is this shit real?" And he's like, "Yup." And he's super positive about it. I mean, this is a guy who served our country too and he's-

Jon Reep 37:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:18 He's a great guy. Like his-

Jon Reep 37:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:20 ... his-

Jon Reep 37:20 He goes... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:21 His, his, his, uh, Instagram handle is crispy11b.

Jon Reep 37:26 Okay.

Joe Rogan 37:27 Yeah, and he just put it up there and they said that they got him for terms of service, and they took it down and he put it back up again.

Jon Reep 37:35 Good, good for him.

Joe Rogan 37:36 So this is the photo right here.

Jon Reep 37:37 Let me see.

Jamie Vernon 37:38 When asked, Instagram says that they didn't do it, so I don't know.

Joe Rogan 37:40 So they didn't do it?

Jamie Vernon 37:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:41 But w- who took it down then?

Jamie Vernon 37:42 Nah, it said... However, an Instagram spokesperson told Fox News the post was reviewed but was not deleted by the company after it found the post did not violate their standards.

Joe Rogan 37:50 But that's not true because it's missing.

Jamie Vernon 37:51 Spokesperson said that there are a number of reasons a post may no longer be available, including the account holder deletes either the account or the post. Could... He's saying he didn't do that, so it could've been something else.

Jon Reep 38:01 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 38:01 Exactly.

Jon Reep 38:02 Or, I mean, you can't prove it.

Joe Rogan 38:03 Yeah.

Jamie Vernon 38:03 Yeah, I don't know.

Joe Rogan 38:05 Well-

Jon Reep 38:05 They could lie to you.

Joe Rogan 38:06 ... I know that this dude is not an attention whore.

Jon Reep 38:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:07 And he wouldn't do that, he wouldn't do that and lie about it. That's ridiculous.

Jon Reep 38:11 I mean Twitter, Instagram could be lying. I me- and there's not really-

Joe Rogan 38:14 It could be a glitch too.

Jon Reep 38:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:16 You know, sometimes it's a fortuitous glitch that looks like a m- a massive conspiracy.

Jon Reep 38:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:21 But he said they sent him notice that said it violated the terms of service. So if he said that-

Jon Reep 38:25 So he, he s- okay.

Joe Rogan 38:27 Yeah.

Jon Reep 38:27 That, that's what was said back to him?

Joe Rogan 38:29 I'm pretty sure.

Jon Reep 38:29 That's the screenshot you want.

Joe Rogan 38:30 Let me make sure that's what he said.

Jon Reep 38:31 It s- it says, uh, "You violated something."

Joe Rogan 38:34 Yeah.

Jon Reep 38:35 That's what you want.

Joe Rogan 38:36 I mean, it's just so weird what's going on now. It's just, it's... Everything just seems so fucking preposterous.

Jon Reep 38:43 Yeah, I just, like... On Facebook, Twitter, all that stuff, if I g- if it's something negative, I just, you know, that's gone. I don't, I don't let, I don't let people just start bashing me on that stuff. I just-

Joe Rogan 38:53 Okay, here it is. "Once I landed, I opened up Instagram and got a message that, 'Your post was taken down for violating Instagram guidelines.'" So, did he po- post that?

Jon Reep 39:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:05 Yes, he did.

Jon Reep 39:06 Oh, there you go.

Joe Rogan 39:06 Wait a minute. Let me see that he did.

Jon Reep 39:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:10 Oh, he posted a thing saying it. Okay, here's what he posted.

Jon Reep 39:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:13 It said, "Wounded veteran violated community standards by posting with Donald Trump Jr." He didn't post the actual notification, but he probably didn't even save it.

Jon Reep 39:21 Right.

Joe Rogan 39:21 He-

Jon Reep 39:22 Why would you? Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:23 He's... I believe him. (sighs) I believe him. I think somebody-

Jon Reep 39:26 But you're right, it is a sad, uh... (sighs)

Joe Rogan 39:28 I think you also have overzealous employees. I think there's that too.

Jon Reep 39:31 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:32 I think there's probably-

Jon Reep 39:33 It's a huge company.

Joe Rogan 39:33 Yeah. I mean, you, m- m- anybody could go rogue at any minute-

Jon Reep 39:37 Thousands of people.

Joe Rogan 39:37 Yeah.

Jon Reep 39:37 ... and just do what the, what the hell they want.

Joe Rogan 39:39 You think they're reading dick pics and DMs? (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 39:41 Uh, I would say someone could've just been fucking with him on the other way, the other way around. Someone could've just flagged it by a bunch of bots that just made it disappear-

Jon Reep 39:47 Oh, right.

Jamie Vernon 39:48 ... to get this, to get a reaction like this.

Jon Reep 39:49 Yeah.

Jamie Vernon 39:49 It's all... It could be simple as that.

Joe Rogan 39:50 Can you do that?

Jamie Vernon 39:51 Sure.

Joe Rogan 39:52 So if you just had a, a bot that did that-

Jamie Vernon 39:54 I could do it right, I could do it right now.

Jon Reep 39:55 But wouldn't Instagram review it manually-

Jamie Vernon 39:57 That's what they, they submitted.

Jon Reep 39:57 ... before they delete it?

Jamie Vernon 39:58 No.

Joe Rogan 39:59 'Cause then it could've just been like, uh...

Jon Reep 39:59 So it could just be taken down.

Jamie Vernon 40:01 It happens on other accounts but that doesn't re- get reviewed that way and it just got taken down because it got flagged so many times? I don't know.

Joe Rogan 40:07 Well, that's one thing that we did learn from talking to, uh, Jack Dorsey, the CEO of Twitter. Like, it's impossible to manage. There's too many posts.

Jon Reep 40:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:15 They're going up right now-

Jon Reep 40:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:16 ... by the thousands.

Jon Reep 40:18 Right.

Joe Rogan 40:18 Like if you could see everyone (laughs) , everyone in America posting on Twitter right now would be like... (laughs)

Jon Reep 40:25 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:25 It would just be fucking flying.

Jon Reep 40:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:26 Aah!

Jon Reep 40:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:29 I mean, imagine if you could see it-

Jon Reep 40:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:30 ... all happening all at once.

Jon Reep 40:31 A supernova explosion-

Joe Rogan 40:32 Oh, my God.

Jon Reep 40:33 ... of ones and zeros-

Joe Rogan 40:34 Fuck.

Jon Reep 40:34 ... just busting all over the place.

Joe Rogan 40:36 And text just, text... (growls)

Jon Reep 40:38 Yeah. Who do you think... Like, if you were to grab somebody's phone, the most popular person that gets, that tweeted the most-

Joe Rogan 40:43 Kim Kardashian.

Jon Reep 40:43 ... and just looked at it, just looked at it-

Joe Rogan 40:45 Yeah.

Jon Reep 40:46 ... how fast would that go? You know what I mean? Like, just that, that one account.

Joe Rogan 40:51 Oh, it would be insane.

Jon Reep 40:52 I mean, yours probably goes quick too.

Joe Rogan 40:53 I don't have my notifications on-

Jon Reep 40:54 Do you follow a lot of other people or do you just-

Joe Rogan 40:56 No. Yeah, I follow a lot of other people.

Jon Reep 40:56 ... post stuff by other people?

Joe Rogan 40:57 Yeah.

Jon Reep 40:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:58 I follow a lot of other people. I just follow whenever, whenever I think someone's interesting.

Jon Reep 41:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:02 Someone's got cool pictures, I follow that guy.

Jon Reep 41:03 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:04 I j- I just, I follow thousands.

Jon Reep 41:05 I hit like, I hit like first.

Joe Rogan 41:07 Yeah, that's good too.

Jon Reep 41:08 And then go like, "Let me see."

Joe Rogan 41:08 I'm gonna go back.

Jon Reep 41:09 "Okay, yeah. Let me get the check, triple check." Yeah, yeah, yeah. "So what else this person's done?"

Joe Rogan 41:11 "Make sure they're not wacky."

Jon Reep 41:13 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:13 What's really funny is people get mad at you for certain people you follow.

Jon Reep 41:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:16 Like, people will be like, "You gotta stop following R. Kelly." No.

Jon Reep 41:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:20 Don't tell me what to do.

Jon Reep 41:21 Right. (laughs) That's first of all.

Joe Rogan 41:23 Yeah. First of all, don't tell me what to do.

Jon Reep 41:24 Don't ever do that.

Joe Rogan 41:24 Second of all, what am I doing? Am I boosting up his profile?

Jon Reep 41:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:28 He's fucking R. Kelly, okay?

Jon Reep 41:29 I wanna know.

Joe Rogan 41:30 Doesn't matter if I follow him if I don't, I wanna know how crazy he is.

Jon Reep 41:33 (laughs) Yeah, that's right.

Joe Rogan 41:35 Dude, did you see Tyron, (laughs) Tyron Woodley? UFC, uh, w- w- top welterweight former champion had a thing on his Instagram page of him watching R. Kelly getting interviewed where he was, he was, who was denying that he knows how to hog tie people. (laughs)

Jon Reep 41:53 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:53 (laughs) And Tyron's laughing at him. Play this, play this so we can hear.

Jon Reep 41:56 Oh, in this interview?

Joe Rogan 41:57 Yeah, this is great.

Jon Reep 41:58 This shit ain't funny but, dawg.

Joe Rogan 42:00 (laughs)

Jon Reep 42:02 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 42:03 I hog tied her.

Joe Rogan 42:06 (laughs) .

Jamie Vernon 42:06 I don't know how to hog tie people.

Joe Rogan 42:11 (laughs)

Jon Reep 42:11 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 42:11 I don't know how to hog tie people.

Joe Rogan 42:13 How to hog tie people? Keep, keep...

Jamie Vernon 42:14 I hog tied her.

Jon Reep 42:15 Hog.

Jamie Vernon 42:16 I don't know how to hog tie people.

Joe Rogan 42:18 (laughs)

Jon Reep 42:18 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 42:19 I don't know how to hog tie people.

Joe Rogan 42:20 Ah-ha.

Jon Reep 42:21 Ah-ha.That's great. He's not using, uh, confidence in that. He's like, "How to, how to, ho, how, hey-ho." (laughs) See-

Joe Rogan 42:28 I follow R. Kelly for the same reason that-

Jon Reep 42:30 That's hilarious.

Joe Rogan 42:31 Yeah. That I love Real Talk.

Jon Reep 42:34 (laughs) How to, how to, ho, ho.

Joe Rogan 42:34 Have you ever watched that video, Real Talk?

Jon Reep 42:36 (sighs) . (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:36 We played it on the podcast multiple times. The Real Talk is one of the greatest unintentional comedies that's ever been created.

Jon Reep 42:42 Real Talk?

Joe Rogan 42:43 Real Talk. Yeah.

Jon Reep 42:43 Haven't seen it.

Joe Rogan 42:44 Oh my God.

Jon Reep 42:44 What is it?

Joe Rogan 42:45 It's a R. Kelly song.

Jon Reep 42:46 Okay.

Joe Rogan 42:46 Where he's in an argument with his girlfriend on the phone.

Jon Reep 42:49 Oh.

Joe Rogan 42:49 So while he's in an arg- with his girlfriend on the phone, he's like getting his hair done and shit.

Jon Reep 42:53 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:53 He's smoking stogies, he's drinking, he's got like different outfits on.

Jon Reep 42:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:56 And he's still in the conversation, and there's one part where he goes... Bitch, I wish you would burn my motherfucking clothes.

Jon Reep 43:04 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:05 Real talk. Bitch, I wish you would burn my motherfucking clothes.

Jon Reep 43:11 My motherfucking clothes. (laughs) Real talk.

Joe Rogan 43:11 (laughs)

Jon Reep 43:12 (laughs) Are you serious about that?

Joe Rogan 43:14 Listen, I absolutely feel for any person that he's victimized.

Jon Reep 43:18 Oh, 100%.

Joe Rogan 43:18 I absolutely do, but you cannot deny that that shit is funny.

Jon Reep 43:22 That, that, that shit is funny. That's hilarious.

Joe Rogan 43:23 That shit is funny, I'm sorry.

Jon Reep 43:24 How to, how to, ho, how, hey-ho.

Joe Rogan 43:24 There is, there is... Hold on, just play that. Bitch, I wish you would burn my motherfucking clothes, with your trifling ass.

Jon Reep 43:34 (laughs) With your trifling ass.

Joe Rogan 43:37 With your trifling ass. (sighs) Oh.

Jon Reep 43:41 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:41 Trifling is the best-

Jon Reep 43:42 Did he? Yeah, it is.

Joe Rogan 43:43 ... the best African American saying of all time.

Jon Reep 43:45 Trifling.

Joe Rogan 43:46 Trifling. Trifling. And it's one that white people cannot use. It's too...

Jon Reep 43:49 I pronounce it too good, is the problem.

Joe Rogan 43:51 They own that word.

Jon Reep 43:52 Hey, stop.

Joe Rogan 43:52 They own that word as much as they own the N-word.

Jon Reep 43:54 (laughs) Right? Stop trifling.

Joe Rogan 43:55 You can't be trifling. You can't, you can't pronounce the G in trifling.

Jon Reep 43:59 Your trifling ass. Yeah, you can't do it.

Joe Rogan 43:59 Trifling. Yeah, that's why white people are not allowed to use it.

Jon Reep 44:02 (laughs) They would ruin it.

Joe Rogan 44:03 Exactly.

Jon Reep 44:03 He's out there trifling.

Joe Rogan 44:04 He's out there trifling again.

Jon Reep 44:05 He's bullshit.

Joe Rogan 44:06 (laughs)

Jon Reep 44:06 He's just a bullshit, he's trifling ass.

Joe Rogan 44:08 In a... (laughs) Yeah, he's trifling ass.

Jon Reep 44:09 Well, here's the thing. I bet gay guys use trifling.

Joe Rogan 44:12 Trifling?

Jon Reep 44:12 I bet gay guys will pull it out. "Oh, him over there with his trifling ass."

Joe Rogan 44:16 (laughs)

Jon Reep 44:17 You know? Sounds like a, a rifle that you travel with. It's a trifling.

Joe Rogan 44:20 Yeah, like a trifling is-

Jon Reep 44:22 A trave- a travel rifle.

Joe Rogan 44:23 They're thinking of banning those.

Jon Reep 44:24 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 44:24 They're good for long range.

Jon Reep 44:26 Don't bring that trifle with you.

Jamie Vernon 44:27 How many people do you think had to look it up before Webster had to, like, answer this question, what is a trifling heifer mean?

Joe Rogan 44:34 (laughs)

Jon Reep 44:35 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 44:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 44:35 Definition of heifer. Lack- lacking in significance or solid worth, such as, A, frivolous.

Jon Reep 44:42 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 44:42 Trifling. B, (laughs) trivial, a trifling gift. C, chiefly dialectical.

Jon Reep 44:49 Oh my God.

Joe Rogan 44:50 Lazy, shiftless, and a trifling fellow.

Jon Reep 44:53 Trifling fellow? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 44:54 A trifling fellow, that is the-

Jon Reep 44:56 Hey, he's a trifling fellow, is he?

Joe Rogan 44:56 That's the m- most English thing you could ever say.

Jon Reep 44:59 (laughs) It got very wide at the end.

Joe Rogan 45:00 Sh- trifling fellow. He's a trifling fellow.

Jon Reep 45:03 Don't bring your ass over here with that trifling fellow.

Joe Rogan 45:06 Yeah, that's a word, bro. That's a, that's a legit word.

Jon Reep 45:09 Trifling.

Joe Rogan 45:10 Shit, I was gonna say something else and I totally forgot.

Jon Reep 45:12 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 45:12 What did we, we talk about right before trifling?

Jon Reep 45:14 You were talking about R. Kelly.

Jamie Vernon 45:15 R. Kelly.

Joe Rogan 45:16 Yeah.

Jon Reep 45:16 I like the album, he, he- I never caught a point. He did an album where it was a lot of just talking.

Joe Rogan 45:21 Oh, Trapped in the Closet?

Jon Reep 45:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:23 Yeah, there was a whole series of videos.

Jon Reep 45:24 It was just, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:25 I think Aziz had a whole thing on that.

Jon Reep 45:27 Oh, he did?

Joe Rogan 45:28 I think he did, like, Aziz Ansari did a bit on it. I believe so. I know he had a bit.

Jon Reep 45:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:32 About R. Kelly. It might've been about Trapped in the Closet.

Jon Reep 45:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:35 Trapped in the Closet is great, but it can't fuck with Real Talk.

Jon Reep 45:38 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 45:39 Real Talk, Real Talk's the jam.

Jon Reep 45:41 Have you seen-

Jamie Vernon 45:42 Had a show apparently.

Jon Reep 45:42 ... Weird Al Yankovic's Trapped in a Drive-Through?

Joe Rogan 45:46 No.

Jon Reep 45:46 It's really good. No. It's the same length as R. Kelly's Trapped in the Closet. And it's the same... And it's all about being trapped in a McDonald's drive-through 'cause the person in front of him is taking too long.

Joe Rogan 45:59 Oh.

Jon Reep 46:00 And it's like... In fact, he did the whole song, is, is what I've got, right?

Joe Rogan 46:04 Respect.

Jon Reep 46:04 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:04 Respect.

Jon Reep 46:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:05 Commitment.

Jon Reep 46:06 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 46:07 It's animated, too. It's a whole cartoon.

Joe Rogan 46:08 It's animated?

Jamie Vernon 46:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:09 Oh my God.

Jon Reep 46:10 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 46:11 That's hilarious.

Jon Reep 46:11 Which one is this?

Jamie Vernon 46:12 This is... R. Kelly: (singing) So what do you want to do?

Joe Rogan 46:16 Weird Al has been around for a long time, man.

Jamie Vernon 46:19 For ever, yeah. Yeah.

Jon Reep 46:19 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 46:19 I mean, I remember when Michael Jackson's Beat It came out-

Jamie Vernon 46:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:22 ... and he had Eat It.

Jon Reep 46:23 Eat It?

Joe Rogan 46:24 Yeah.

Jon Reep 46:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:24 I mean, that was in the '90s.

Jon Reep 46:25 And it, it said I'm fat, it was, I'm Fat.

Joe Rogan 46:27 Yeah.

Jon Reep 46:28 Yeah. What year was that?

Joe Rogan 46:29 That's gotta be-

Jon Reep 46:29 That might've been the '80s. It's gotta be late '80s, early '90s.

Joe Rogan 46:32 Yeah, it is.

Jon Reep 46:33 Yeah, late '80s. How old is Real Al? Real, how old is he here?

Joe Rogan 46:36 Weird Al's gotta be 85 years old.

Jon Reep 46:38 (laughs) Yeah, I think so.

Jamie Vernon 46:40 No, he's 59.

Jon Reep 46:40 What? Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:41 59? What was he, 12?

Jon Reep 46:43 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 46:44 Back then?

Jamie Vernon 46:44 His first, uh, song aired in 1976.

Joe Rogan 46:48 What?

Jon Reep 46:49 Yeah. He was not big on Dr. Demento.

Joe Rogan 46:51 1976?

Jamie Vernon 46:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:52 That's insane.

Jamie Vernon 46:53 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 46:54 So he was really young.

Jon Reep 46:55 Dr. Demento. Dr. Demento.

Joe Rogan 46:57 God, I remember hearing that.

Jon Reep 46:58 I remember this when I was a kid, but that's, uh, they played all these weird goofball, nerdy songs.

Joe Rogan 47:03 Yeah.

Jon Reep 47:04 And he was the king of it. He has a huge following now. He sell- like, he'll, he'll sell out places.

Joe Rogan 47:09 Weird Al?

Jon Reep 47:09 Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. Well, he's got so much work.

Joe Rogan 47:11 There's a big nerd generation.

Jon Reep 47:12 Yeah. He's got so, I mean, it's a giant body of work. Yeah. I like his hair, too. He's got that-

Joe Rogan 47:17 Apparently he's a super nice guy, too.

Jon Reep 47:19 Yeah, and smart, I've heard.

Joe Rogan 47:20 Yeah.

Jon Reep 47:21 Yeah. But everyone's smart to me.

Joe Rogan 47:22 What else can we say about him that's nice?

Jamie Vernon 47:24 (laughs)

Jon Reep 47:24 Yeah. (laughs) He's a good dancer, too. And accepts his gender. You know what else he's not g- he's not trifling, is what I love.

Joe Rogan 47:31 He's definitely not trifling.

Jon Reep 47:32 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:33 Yeah, that's a word that's like, there's certain words, like that one, you just seem so ridiculous if you try to use it.

Jon Reep 47:39 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 47:40 Oh, this is what I was gonna say.

Jon Reep 47:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:41 We were talking about, uh, uh, we weren't even talking about this, but...

Jon Reep 47:46 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:47 My daughter is watching these YouTube videos of this, there's this young gay fellow-

Jon Reep 47:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:54 ... that does makeup tutorials.

Jamie Vernon 47:56 James Charles.

Joe Rogan 47:57 Oh. Okay.

Jon Reep 47:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:58 He's enormous.

Jamie Vernon 48:00 Yeah.

Jon Reep 48:00 Yeah. Like, he's enormous. You know, he, he, he probably gets more views than any network show that's ever been created. (laughs) How old was this fellow?

Joe Rogan 48:10 He's young. Looks like he's, like, 20.

Jon Reep 48:12 Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan 48:12 What do you say, Jim?

Jamie Vernon 48:13 I'm trying to know if I should bring this up. He, I just, the last thing that popped in my head during Coachella, he got accused of being in this viral video that happened. It's, uh, it wasn't him, but there's a, the Ferris wheel at Coachella. You know what, have you ever seen that? Do you know what I'm talking about?

Joe Rogan 48:24 No.

Jamie Vernon 48:24 It's a big famous thing that people take pictures in front of.

Joe Rogan 48:27 Oh.

Jamie Vernon 48:27 During a concert, you could see a silhouette of somebody getting head in there, and it's two guys.

Jon Reep 48:33 Oh, really?

Joe Rogan 48:33 Oh.

Jamie Vernon 48:34 It's a very vivid video that was going, it went super viral on Twitter that night.

Joe Rogan 48:37 And they were saying it was him?

Jamie Vernon 48:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:38 Oh. How dare they? He's all about makeup, not head.

Jamie Vernon 48:42 Yeah.

Jon Reep 48:42 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:43 Sons of bitches. Keep it clean.

Jon Reep 48:44 Right. You'd have to reapply your lipstick to do that.

Joe Rogan 48:45 Keep it clean.

Jon Reep 48:48 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:48 But it's hilarious. My, my sister j- ... I mean, "my sister." My daughter sits in front of the TV cackling watching it.

Jon Reep 48:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:53 Just cackling.

Jon Reep 48:53 Really?

Joe Rogan 48:54 I was just w- ... And is it f- ... Is it supposed to be funny?

Jamie Vernon 48:57 (smacks lips) She thinks it's funny.

Jon Reep 48:58 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:58 She thinks he's hilarious.

Jon Reep 48:59 Is this dude going for laughter?

Joe Rogan 49:00 Well, I don't know.

Jon Reep 49:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:02 I mean, he's covered in crazy makeup.

Jon Reep 49:04 Uh-

Joe Rogan 49:04 I think what she was laughing at, though, in all fairness, was he was making fun of someone ... Subscriber, six million, 16 million people.

Jon Reep 49:13 Oh, my God.

Jamie Vernon 49:14 69.

Joe Rogan 49:15 I think he was making fun of, uh, people that put on too much makeup.

Jon Reep 49:18 Okay.

Joe Rogan 49:18 So he was going crazy with the makeup.

Jon Reep 49:19 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:19 And she thought it was really funny. That is fucking bananas. 16 million people, and he's doing makeup tutorials.

Jamie Vernon 49:26 He looks great.

Joe Rogan 49:27 He looks great.

Jon Reep 49:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:28 That's the thing, it's like we ... There's an audience for-

Jon Reep 49:31 It looks like a f- ... That's a Kardashian right there.

Joe Rogan 49:32 All kinds of shit like this that you would've never expected.

Jon Reep 49:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:37 And because the access, because on-demand access, especially, like, through a computer, is so easy.

Jon Reep 49:43 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 49:43 It's so easy. Just type in the next thing.

Jon Reep 49:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:45 John Reed, penny. Bang.

Jon Reep 49:45 It just, boom. What's next?

Joe Rogan 49:46 Just pops up. Yeah.

Jon Reep 49:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:48 So, like, these people that ... No network in their right mind ... Like, NBC would never say, "Hey, that young guy, let's get that guy to do a makeup show." They'd be like-

Jon Reep 49:57 Right.

Joe Rogan 49:57 ... "Get the fuck out of the office."

Jon Reep 49:58 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:58 "You don't know shit about ratings."

Jon Reep 50:00 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 50:00 (laughs)

Jon Reep 50:00 Meanwhile, eight billion subscribers.

Joe Rogan 50:03 Yeah. That's crazy.

Jon Reep 50:04 That'd be a fun game to play is, like, what rabbit hole would YouTube send you down if you typed in this and just let it keep going?

Joe Rogan 50:11 That's a problem with YouTube.

Jon Reep 50:12 On its own.

Joe Rogan 50:13 Those algorithms, um, they, they ... The, the real problem is people think that a lot of those algorithms are essentially designed to get you angry.

Jon Reep 50:22 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:23 Get you pissed off so you watch the next thing.

Jon Reep 50:25 Take ... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:25 Yeah.

Jon Reep 50:26 What are they teaching our children?

Joe Rogan 50:27 What are they teaching our children?

Jon Reep 50:29 (laughs) Next.

Joe Rogan 50:30 Yeah, this is the problem with illegal immigration. I knew there was a fucking problem.

Jon Reep 50:33 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:34 And then, you know, and then next thing you know, you're just more and more angry.

Jon Reep 50:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:37 That's like the argument with Facebook, too, is that they're se- ... They're trying to figure out what gets people to engage. And so the algorithm realized what you engage with, and then that's what they show you more of. And what gets people to engage is shit that makes them mad.

Jon Reep 50:52 Yeah. Yeah. Totally. It keeps me wanting to ... I watch-

Joe Rogan 50:57 Yeah.

Jon Reep 50:57 ... fight videos on Facebook all day.

Joe Rogan 50:59 Do you really?

Jon Reep 51:00 Well, just like, you know, like brawls in a schoolyard or like, you know, just ... It, it just keeps going. I'm like, "Oh, man, what's gonna happen here?"

Joe Rogan 51:07 (sighs) Those give me anxiety.

Jon Reep 51:08 It's i- ... Do they? Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:10 Little bit.

Jon Reep 51:11 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:12 Yeah.

Jon Reep 51:12 Well, you know, I'm not ... Uh, I don't do much of the fighting, so when I see it, it's like, "Oh, this is interesting. Who's gonna win this one?" And then I like it when the, you know, when the, the underdog wins.

Joe Rogan 51:20 Yeah, I enjoy watching it.

Jon Reep 51:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:22 I mean, I, I will watch them. I wa- ... I watch the dudes-

Jon Reep 51:24 Not if it's to- ... Like, it's obviously someone's about to die.

Joe Rogan 51:27 Right.

Jon Reep 51:27 Like that.

Joe Rogan 51:27 Someone getting really badly hurt.

Jon Reep 51:28 A good, like, couple punches to the face.

Joe Rogan 51:30 Well, the best ones are when someone deserves it.

Jon Reep 51:32 Yes.

Joe Rogan 51:33 So when ... Those are the ones you enjoy.

Jon Reep 51:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:34 When someone's being a real dick-

Jon Reep 51:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:36 ... and someone's like, "Listen, man, you're being a dick."

Jon Reep 51:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:38 "So please stop."

Jon Reep 51:38 I just saw one. Uh, it was a guy on a ... It was a-

Joe Rogan 51:42 (coughs)

Jon Reep 51:42 ... I wanna say like an old Middle Eastern couple that are on a, uh, subway. And this dude's like smacking his wife in the face like th- ... And this, this other guy's ... He's across from him and he's recording it, and he's like, "No, not, not in front of me." And he walked over there and said ... He, he told him like eight times to stop, and then it end- uh, just, uh, punching the shit out of him.

Joe Rogan 52:01 Wow.

Jon Reep 52:01 So it was nice to see it, you know?

Joe Rogan 52:02 That is nice. (laughs)

Jon Reep 52:03 (laughs) It's like ... Yeah. There's one, uh, of a guy in a, uh, okay, it's like a bus. And some guy's running his mouth to this old white guy who's obviously a, like an ex-Vietnam vet, and he's telling him like, "Just leave it alone, man. Leave it alone." And he comes down there and then he walks up to the front, and he just beats the shit out of him.

Joe Rogan 52:23 Oof.

Jon Reep 52:23 And, and, and you just see blood coming out of his face (laughs) and it's like, you know, he started this. He engaged that whole thing. That guy was walking away, and then he went back up there.

Joe Rogan 52:31 And those are the best ones.

Jon Reep 52:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:32 Those are the best ones.

Jon Reep 52:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:34 When someone deserves it.

Jon Reep 52:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:37 How many ... Like, that's the thing about, like a guy smacking his wife in public.

Jon Reep 52:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:43 Like, how often does he smack her that he's so confident that he'll just smack her in front of everybody?

Jon Reep 52:48 Yeah. Right. Like it, it must be, um ... He must think it's acceptable and everyone else is cool with it, you know, like-

Joe Rogan 52:54 Or he must think that he can just get away with things.

Jon Reep 52:57 Yeah.

Jamie Vernon 52:58 (coughs)

Joe Rogan 52:58 Sometimes people just think they can get away with things.

Jon Reep 53:00 Yeah. It was, uh ... There was not many people on that bus, uh, in this video.

Joe Rogan 53:04 Yeah.

Jon Reep 53:04 So I think he-

Joe Rogan 53:04 So I think he probably wouldn't have-

Jon Reep 53:05 ... He probably thought that guy wasn't even paying attention to him.

Joe Rogan 53:07 Or that most people are just gonna be too scared to say anything.

Jon Reep 53:09 Uh-huh. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:10 Yeah. That's what ... I mean, that ... This is where it gets real scary, 'cause that is the best argument for the end of all privacy.

Jon Reep 53:18 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 53:18 Is that no one would ever be able to do anything like that 'cause the whole world would be watching.

Jon Reep 53:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:23 Exactly.

Jon Reep 53:23 'Cause then it'd be honest.

Joe Rogan 53:24 Like, you m- ... You might ... It depends on what kinda action you could take.

Jon Reep 53:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:30 If you could literally see everything that's happening at any time everywhere in the world.

Jon Reep 53:34 Ugh. Ugh. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:38 We wouldn't know-

Jon Reep 53:38 But now that, you know, everyone's got cams, so it's like-

Joe Rogan 53:40 It's close.

Jon Reep 53:41 It's close. You're right.

Joe Rogan 53:43 And then they're gonna have those fucking foldable things.

Jon Reep 53:45 You're keeping cops honest, you're keeping the-

Joe Rogan 53:46 Yeah.

Jon Reep 53:47 ... the people honest now a little bit (laughs) until too much alcohol is involved.

Joe Rogan 53:51 No, there's s- something to it, because if you think about ... Like, like, there ... Kennedy did a speech on secrecy. It was like in 1961 or '62 about how abhorrent secrecy is.

Jon Reep 54:02 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 54:02 How dangerous it is for a free society. And, uh, he there basically talking about secret societies and secret, you know, pacts in the government, and he was basically ... I think a lot of it was him talking about some of the shady shit that he had experienced in intelligence agencies, you know?

Jon Reep 54:17 Oh.

Joe Rogan 54:17 But when you have, like, kings or when you have people that are in power, like, how do they wield that power? One of the ways they wield their power, it's all secrecy if they wanna execute people and they wanna kill people or torture people.

Jon Reep 54:29 Right.

Joe Rogan 54:29 It's all secret.

Jon Reep 54:30 Right.

Joe Rogan 54:30 You're not ... No one ... The world is not privy to it, like, what happened to them? They, they took them to a bunker somewhere.

Jon Reep 54:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:35 And then they're beating the shit out of them and torturing them. It's all secret.

Jon Reep 54:38 Like North Korea. Like North Korea.

Joe Rogan 54:39 Yeah, exactly.

Jon Reep 54:39 You know? They- they're just isolated from the rest of the world, and who knows what the hell he's doing over there.

Joe Rogan 54:44 So if we-

Jon Reep 54:45 And th- there ... We just know the stuff that he allows us to know.

Joe Rogan 54:47 Yeah.Well, that's the perfect example-

Jon Reep 54:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:51 ... of power and secrecy, right?

Jon Reep 54:52 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:53 Like, they just take you and make you disappear. He's, he's executed a bunch of people.

Jon Reep 54:57 Oh, yeah. That we don't even know.

Joe Rogan 54:58 I'm sure.

Jon Reep 54:59 We're close to the tip of the iceberg on that.

Joe Rogan 55:01 I'm sure that still goes on here, too.

Jon Reep 55:03 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:04 I'm sure. (coughing) I'm sure people are killing people for someone right now.

Jon Reep 55:08 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 55:09 You know? And some of them deserve it.

Jon Reep 55:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:11 Give them an extra one for me.

Jon Reep 55:13 (laughs) There you go.

Joe Rogan 55:13 Right?

Jon Reep 55:14 Stop with your trifle of mass.

Joe Rogan 55:15 It's, it's also weird, like, what we'll accept people dying from. Like, uh, I was listening to this podcast where, uh, this wolf lady, she's a wolf biologist. She was talking to my friend Steve Rinella on The Meat Eater podcast, and, uh, she was talking about how we accept people getting killed by mountain lions.

Jon Reep 55:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:34 Like, it's, it happens. It happened twice last year.

Jon Reep 55:37 Right.

Joe Rogan 55:38 It happens. It's not, it's not really common, but it happens. But the moment that people start getting killed by wolves in America, people are going to get furious.

Jon Reep 55:46 Really?

Joe Rogan 55:47 Yeah. Because they reintroduced wol- wolves-

Jon Reep 55:49 Oh, that's right.

Joe Rogan 55:50 ... in 1994. That's right.

Jon Reep 55:51 Oh, so that, so that's, uh, they're outraged that we did that too.

Joe Rogan 55:55 Yeah. Well, she was basically, they were saying, it was, there was two really interesting things about the podcast, a l- a lot of really interesting things, but two that really stood out was one, that the, these people, they, they reintroduced these animals in 1994. But there were already some wolves here.

Jon Reep 56:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:10 And the wolves would have probably ev- eventually made it down there.

Jon Reep 56:14 It was in Yellowstone, right?

Joe Rogan 56:15 (clears throat) Yeah.

Jon Reep 56:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:16 Yeah. But that we aren't... Be- because the fact that they brought them in, and it wasn't just a natural fixture-

Jon Reep 56:23 Oh.

Joe Rogan 56:23 ... we have this thing like, "Oh, somebody ruin this."

Jon Reep 56:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:26 "Somebody fucked this up."

Jon Reep 56:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:28 And the other thing is that they number them instead of name them.

Jon Reep 56:31 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 56:32 Because if you name them, it's like, "Oh, there's Dolores. Oh, Dolores killed some sheep. We're gonna have to take her out." No, we can't kill Dolores.

Jon Reep 56:38 Not Dolores.

Joe Rogan 56:39 But if it's-

Jon Reep 56:39 And number three.

Joe Rogan 56:40 ... Wolf 157.

Jon Reep 56:41 Right. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. It's like inmates in prison, you just give them numbers.

Joe Rogan 56:45 Mm-hmm. Exactly.

Jon Reep 56:46 So it's easier to kill them.

Joe Rogan 56:47 Easier to treat them like cattle.

Jon Reep 56:49 Right. So, but we did, the one guy killed that mountain lion. He fought back.

Joe Rogan 56:54 Yeah.

Jon Reep 56:54 Right? That's one.

Joe Rogan 56:55 That story turned out to be horse shit.

Jon Reep 56:57 Oh, is that right?

Joe Rogan 56:57 Yeah, that, the mountain lion was, uh, a kitten.

Jon Reep 57:00 It was like, it was a kitten.

Joe Rogan 57:01 It was a real kitten, and it'd been separated from its mom. I think his mom got killed, and it was really, really small, and really young.

Jon Reep 57:08 Oh.

Joe Rogan 57:09 So it wasn't like... I mean, he might have attacked it.

Jon Reep 57:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:11 Who knows? It was emaciated.

Jon Reep 57:13 Oh, right.

Joe Rogan 57:13 Yeah.

Jon Reep 57:14 Well, he still got a chance.

Joe Rogan 57:15 Maybe it just took a little bit. Yeah. I mean, he's a bitch.

Jon Reep 57:17 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:17 I don't know, I'm just kidding. If he's listening right now, I'm sorry, bro.

Jon Reep 57:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:21 But I think, uh-

Jon Reep 57:22 Well, we're happy you're alive.

Joe Rogan 57:23 I'm, we're happy you're alive.

Jon Reep 57:24 You better not touch wolves, buddy.

Joe Rogan 57:25 I think it, uh, maybe it was starving to death, and it took a chance to try to kill him.

Jon Reep 57:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:29 That's possible too. But it was very small, it's like 30 pounds. Which still, a 30-pound cat is fucking terrifying.

Jon Reep 57:34 I never saw pictures of the, the cat, uh, the one that he killed.

Joe Rogan 57:37 No, I never saw it either.

Jon Reep 57:37 So-

Joe Rogan 57:37 Because I think something had ate a lot of it by the time...

Jon Reep 57:40 Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan 57:41 Yeah.

Jon Reep 57:42 So did he say how he did it? Did he put it in like a chokehold or did he-

Joe Rogan 57:45 I think he said he choked it.

Jon Reep 57:47 Oh, right.

Joe Rogan 57:47 He stepped on it, something like that.

Jon Reep 57:49 Oh, man.

Joe Rogan 57:50 Yeah.

Jamie Vernon 57:52 I was gonna ask if you saw this thing going around the internet about this, uh, wolf pack being tracked? Or there's actually six of them. It's like a moving GIF over time, but, uh...

Joe Rogan 57:59 Oh, yeah, I have seen this. It's amazing. It shows how they never cross territories.

Jon Reep 58:04 Oh, cool.

Jamie Vernon 58:05 Six different packs, I would think.

Joe Rogan 58:06 Yeah.

Jamie Vernon 58:06 Or five.

Joe Rogan 58:07 They all establish their territory, they mark their territory-

Jamie Vernon 58:10 It's the last.

Joe Rogan 58:10 And, and they-

Jon Reep 58:11 And they respect it.

Joe Rogan 58:11 They all respect it. Yeah.

Jamie Vernon 58:12 It's like over Minnesota.

Joe Rogan 58:14 Yeah. Minnesota has a shitload of wolves apparently.

Jon Reep 58:16 (laughs) What if it keeps going and it's a picture of Jimi Hendrix?

Jamie Vernon 58:19 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:19 Wisconsin has a shit... (laughs)

Jon Reep 58:21 Right, if you pull back further.

Jamie Vernon 58:23 (laughs)

Jon Reep 58:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:23 Yeah. Wisconsin has a shitload of wolves apparently, like thousands.

Jon Reep 58:28 Wisconsin? Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:29 Yeah.

Jon Reep 58:29 Yeah, I could see that. And it's a lot of, you know, woods up there and just land.

Joe Rogan 58:35 Yeah.

Jon Reep 58:35 Not m- not many major cities. Milwaukee.

Joe Rogan 58:38 I think I saw a wolf once. I think I saw a wolf once. But it was really-

Jon Reep 58:40 You mean like in the wild?

Joe Rogan 58:41 Yeah. It was big. It was, uh, it was either a coyote or it was a wolf. But I think it might have been a wolf. Because it was, uh, just getting dusk, and I was in, uh, Alberta. And I saw this thing run across the road. I was like, "That might have been a wolf."

Jon Reep 58:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:56 But if you see a wolf, that's, the spooky thing is, what are they doing? Are they circling you? Are they checking you out?

Jon Reep 59:01 (laughs) And they're not usually alone, right?

Joe Rogan 59:04 No.

Jon Reep 59:04 This is a lone wolf, but that's rare.

Joe Rogan 59:06 That's an asshole. That's a guy who got kicked out.

Jon Reep 59:08 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:08 You ever seen this video? This one's great.

Jon Reep 59:10 No.

Joe Rogan 59:10 Look at the size of this thing. It comes out of the woods and walks across the street. Look at the size of this motherfucker.

Jon Reep 59:17 Oh, my God. Jesus. That's a bear.

Jamie Vernon 59:18 That's such a big wolf.

Jon Reep 59:20 That's a bear.

Joe Rogan 59:22 No, that's a wolf.

Jon Reep 59:22 I wonder what that weighs.

Jamie Vernon 59:23 What the fuck is that?

Joe Rogan 59:24 It's a big-ass wolf. That's what that is. That's probably 100...

Jon Reep 59:27 Damn.

Joe Rogan 59:28 130-pound wolf or something.

Jon Reep 59:29 Where is this?

Joe Rogan 59:30 If I had to guess, though, is this Canada?

Jamie Vernon 59:32 That looks like Russia.

Jon Reep 59:32 Russia. Yeah. (laughs) It's gotta be Russia. That's a gigantic wolf.

Joe Rogan 59:37 Russia's had real, legitimate problems with wolves. Where in Siberia, they have these super packs.

Jon Reep 59:43 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 59:43 They would get together, like, because they were starving. So you'd get like 100 wolves who'd form a super pack. Because they could kind of do whatever the fuck they wanted once they got that big.

Jon Reep 59:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:52 And they started killing horses.

Jon Reep 59:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:54 Go in the horse stables and just... (growling)

Jon Reep 59:56 A bunch of wolves could take down a horse easy.

Joe Rogan 59:59 Yeah, but it's just... The idea that the super packs-

Jon Reep 1:00:02 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 1:00:03 They, they realized it was too hard to, to just take over shit-

Jon Reep 1:00:07 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:00:07 ... with all these pesky people and their guns and houses.

Jon Reep 1:00:10 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:11 So they got desperate-

Jon Reep 1:00:12 Well, they're gonna take your fucking horses now.

Joe Rogan 1:00:14 Siberia has always been an interesting st- place.

Jon Reep 1:00:16 Have you been to Russia?

Joe Rogan 1:00:17 No, not been.

Jon Reep 1:00:18 Oh.

Joe Rogan 1:00:18 Have you? What'd you do up there?

Jon Reep 1:00:19 1990.

Joe Rogan 1:00:20 Yeah?

Jon Reep 1:00:21 Right before communism fell. I was there for three weeks.

Joe Rogan 1:00:23 Whoa, before communism fell.

Jon Reep 1:00:26 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:26 What were you doing?

Jon Reep 1:00:26 Gorbachev was, uh, in power.

Joe Rogan 1:00:28 Whoa.

Jon Reep 1:00:29 Yeah. Uh, it was just-

Joe Rogan 1:00:30 Were you a spy?

Jon Reep 1:00:31 Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Jamie Vernon 1:00:32 Ромеnка, как дела? Я не понимаю русский язык.»

Joe Rogan 1:00:34 Wow, that's pretty good.

Jon Reep 1:00:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:00:35 What'd you just say?

Jon Reep 1:00:36 I said, "Hello. Uh, I don't understand. Please and thank you." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:00:41 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 1:00:41 (laughs)

Jon Reep 1:00:41 That's, that's the words I remember. Uh, it was this program founded by Dwight D. Eisenhower in the '40s of, uh, it's called People to People, where they, they send the youth of America to other countries to hang out with that youth to promote world peace, and that's all it is. And certain kids from high schools are selected, and you, they go, you go to Washington DC first for three, you know, for three days, they, they, they debrief you, and then you go to another country. And ours was Russia. It was awesome. I had, I had a great time.

Joe Rogan 1:01:08 Wow.

Jon Reep 1:01:08 Yeah.And, uh, I told Bert Kreischer that too, you know, 'cause he has the whole machine story.

Joe Rogan 1:01:13 Mm-hmm.

Jon Reep 1:01:14 I said, "I feel like I can't tell my Russian story because you've, you've owned it so much with your machine story that if I do anything about this then it's gonna look like..." "Oh, okay, you too, huh?" "Yeah, you got a Russian story."

Joe Rogan 1:01:26 Then you should tell it.

Jon Reep 1:01:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:27 Yeah. People wanna hear it. They'll understand. They don't think you're a thief.

Jon Reep 1:01:30 I kinda got in trouble 'cause I was trading illegally on the black market over there.

Joe Rogan 1:01:34 What were you doing?

Jon Reep 1:01:34 Not on purpose. I didn't know I was doing it, um, because you know-

Joe Rogan 1:01:38 Likely story. (laughs)

Jon Reep 1:01:39 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:01:39 If I was a cop, I'd be like, "Tell me more." (laughs)

Jon Reep 1:01:43 (laughs) That's kinda what happened. This dude I was talking to, it was after, like, a, a function that we were at, you know, where they, w- you would go to the, some, some town, some village, and they'd come out. They'd greet you with bread and salt, and they would dance around, and you would just eat with them and hang out or whatever. And, um, so I was just talking to this kid, you know. They speak perfect English, you know. We're the ones who don't speak Russian, so this kid's trying to teach me Russian cuss words, and I thought he was pretty cool. It's before the internet, you know. So I had a bunch of these ink pens that my mom gave me from a phone company where she worked. She goes, "Just give them ink pens. They love anything with English writing on it, anything American, they're gonna love it. Bubble gum, jeans, ink pens." So I was like, "Yeah, dude. Let's, uh, let's be pen pals." So we're exchanging addresses, you know. Like, "Oh, I'll keep in touch with you, why not?" And I give him a pen, and he gives me his address. And what I don't know is this dude's already kinda in trouble with cops over there for trading illegally on the black market. I had no idea, and this cop just grabbed both of us and drags us into the hotel. And no one saw me from my group get grabbed, by the way, 'cause I was off doing my own little thing with this dude, right? Uh, learning Russian cuss words. So we go into this office in this hotel, and they're just cussing at each other in Russian. And I don't know what the hell's going on. I'm like, "Dude, (laughs) what, what is this? Am I in big trouble here?" I mean, you know. He goes, "This is bullshit. There's nothing to worry about. This is bullshit." And they, they scream some more. Now, the cop doesn't speak English, and so he's basically my translator, this guy is, to the cop. I'm like, "Hey, man, I'm with this group, you know. I don't know what's going on." And so he kicks that kid out, the Russian cop, and now it's just me and this Russian cop. And I'm looking at him, and he's looking at me, and he looks at my bag, uh, with all these ink pens. And he's like, he goes like this. He's like, "Let me s- you know, let me see, you know." He's like, "Oh, you want a pen?" So I hand him a pen, and he looks at it, and he's like, "Oh, cool." He puts it in his desk, and he goes away. And he comes back with this big ass Russian pendant sickle and hammer thing with wings coming out of it, pretty cool looking thing, and he just handed it to me, and he goes like this. So he technically arrested me for trading, and then he traded with me. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:03:44 Wow.

Jon Reep 1:03:44 Yeah, 1990s when that happened.