Joe Rogan Experience #1296 - Joe List

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   ... two. Joe List,…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      ... two. Joe List, ladies and gentlemen. Joe List!

   2. JLJoe List0:05

      Oh, I'm already in. I'm already going.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      I wanted to do it like one of the morning DJ guys.

   4. JLJoe List0:08

      I appreciate it.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:09

      Hey, Joe, I hear you're in town for The Funny Fuck.

   6. JLJoe List0:11

      I am. (laughs) I'm doing The Funny Fuck this weekend, tonight through Sunday.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      Excellent. Actually, you are working with me tonight.

   8. JLJoe List0:18

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      We have two sold out shows at the, uh, Hollywood Improv. Mm.

   10. JLJoe List0:21

       I appreciate it. I'm excited to be there.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:23

       My pleasure. It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be The Machine, Bert Kreischer-

   12. JLJoe List0:25

       I love Bert.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       ... and Cheeto Santino, Andrew Santino. You know Andrew?

   14. JLJoe List0:29

       I know, I know Andrew, but I don't know if ... I don't know him personally.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:32

       You just know of him?

   16. JLJoe List0:33

       I don't know if he knows me. Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       He's hilarious.

   18. JLJoe List0:34

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       Yeah, should be a good old fucking time.

   20. JLJoe List0:36

       Yeah, I'm excited.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       I'm excited.

   22. JLJoe List0:37

       Thanks for having me.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       My pleasure, my pl- How long are you in town for?

   24. JLJoe List0:40

       I leave tomorrow morning.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       Ah, okay.

   26. JLJoe List0:41

       I got here on Sunday. Oh, I got here Saturday actually, but I stayed down Manhattan Beach.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       Oh, what are you doing? You're b- posh, hanging out with the people by the beach, hmm?

   28. JLJoe List0:48

       It was ni- Well, I was down at the airport, my wife is here, and I said, "Let's go down to Manhattan Beach for lunch," and we were enjoying ourselves so we got a hotel and made love and walked on the beach.

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:56

       Whoa, you made love?

   30. JLJoe List0:57

       Yeah.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JLJoe List15:00

      I'm gonna get cancer and die." And my therapist was like, "Just at least accept your decision. Enjoy eating shit."

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:07

      Yeah.

   3. JLJoe List15:08

      He's like, "You're eating shit and not even enjoying it. So what's the point?" And he's like, "Accepting it would actually probably help you to eat healthier." And I was like, "Good point. I'll just start enjoying it." And that lasted 10 days and that's when the reflux started and I had to completely change my diet.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:22

      Mm.

   5. JLJoe List15:23

      So I should've had that conversation 25 years earlier. So now I just ate like shit without enjoying it and now I'm refluxing.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:32

      Mm.

   7. JLJoe List15:32

      And I can't eat any of that s-... I had to cut out everything.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:35

      So what did they tell you to eat now? You have to cut out dairy. What do you, what do you cut now?

   9. JLJoe List15:39

      Well, I'm going back to the doctor on Thursday, then I'm seeing a specialist who like coined the phrase.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:44

       Oh.

   11. JLJoe List15:44

       It's like a thousand bucks for a consultation. But at this point-

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:46

       Jesus Christ.

   13. JLJoe List15:47

       ... I'm like, I'm losing my mind, so-

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:48

       How crazy is that? A doctor can charge a thousand dollars to just talk to you.

   15. JLJoe List15:52

       Well the other... The first doctor I went to was an ENT and they do a thing, which I think is fucked up, they're like... I'm like, "I'm paying ca-" I don't have insurance, so I'm paying out of pocket and they're like, "Oh, it's a 20% discount if you're paying out of po-" Like, like I'm at a record store.

   16. JRJoe Rogan16:05

       How weird.

   17. JLJoe List16:05

       Like they're like, "We give you a discount-"

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:07

       If you pay cash.

   19. JLJoe List16:07

       "... if you pay up front." And I'm like, "All right, that seems bizarre." It's like my wellbeing.

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:12

       That seems like something someone who deals with drug dealers. Guys come in with bullet wounds.

   21. JLJoe List16:16

       (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:18

       You know? (laughs) "You got cash?"

   23. JLJoe List16:19

       It seems a little-

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:19

       "All right, 20% off."

   25. JLJoe List16:20

       It's a little strange.

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:21

       Stitch you up.

   27. JLJoe List16:21

       Well, I rolled up my money and put it in a rubber band around it and handed it to him.

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:24

       We always like to think (laughs) that's... We always like to think that doctors are... they're, there's something special about them, you know? They're beyond reproach, they're above and beyond. But I was reading this book called Dead Doctors Don't Lie, it's by this guy Joel Wallach, and it's all about mineral deficiencies and how many people have mineral deficiencies and how little doctors actually know about nutrition and how, uh, so many doctors are not only unhealthy, but have at least, back when he wrote this book, have easy access to prescription medicine and they're just overdosing.

   29. JLJoe List16:54

       Right.

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:54

       And th- they're just fucking cooking themselves with coke. (laughs)
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Yeah, it was, uh,…

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

   2. JLJoe List30:00

      Yeah, it was, uh, unpleasant I would say.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:03

      Yeah, it sucks, man. Yeah.

   4. JLJoe List30:03

      But that can happen. I mean, th- after that I was like, "Maybe I shouldn't get on the last train," at least give yourself a chance-

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:08

      What time is it?

   6. JLJoe List30:08

      ... to go one... It was early. I was on my way to this show in the city. It was like 8:00, 7:30.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:11

      Jesus Christ.

   8. JLJoe List30:12

      But I mean, I don't think they were leaving drunk. I think they were just-

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:15

      Assholes.

   10. JLJoe List30:16

       Yeah, just being wild or whatever.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:18

       (exhales)

   12. JLJoe List30:18

       ... wildin', I think is the term.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:20

       Were they Italian?

   14. JLJoe List30:21

       Uh, they were not. They were, uh, of Latino descent.

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:24

       Uh-huh.

   16. JLJoe List30:25

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:26

       Racist.

   18. JLJoe List30:27

       Uh ...

   19. NANarrator30:28

       (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:28

       (laughs)

   21. JLJoe List30:28

       I am describing-

   22. JRJoe Rogan30:29

       (laughs)

   23. JLJoe List30:30

       ... what I think a very PC-

   24. JRJoe Rogan30:32

       Uh, no, the way you said it, it was clear you were demeaning.

   25. JLJoe List30:35

       I think Latino is good. Or is it Hispa- I think Hispanic is bad 'cause it's in reference directly to Spanish, so Latino is better.

   26. JRJoe Rogan30:43

       Um-

   27. JLJoe List30:43

       But that could be in reference to Latin America, I don't know.

   28. JRJoe Rogan30:45

       I'm tired of that.

   29. NANarrator30:46

       (laughs)

   30. JLJoe List30:46

       (laughs)
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   This is what's bumming…

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      but, man, there is a lot of fucking pesticides out there.

   2. JLJoe List45:04

      This is what's bumming me out. The more I do... 'Cause I, I just always just ate garbage or whatever without thinking about it. Now the more research I do, the more I'll read about... Like 'cause I like to read health benefits of the food I'm eating while I'm eating it 'cause it makes it feel like, "Oh, all right, I'm doing something good."

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:18

      Right.

   4. JLJoe List45:19

      But then every one... The bottom of the page, like if you eat too much broccoli, you'll shit your blood or whatever.

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:24

      (laughs)

   6. JLJoe List45:24

      It's-

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:25

      Yeah.

   8. JLJoe List45:25

      There's always something or there's pesticides or what the fuck.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:28

      Oxalate. Yeah. You, the... Really, have you heard of a carnivore diet? You heard of that?

   10. JLJoe List45:34

       Um, sorta. I, I assume it's just meat.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:36

       It's just meat, just steak. There's a lot of people that do it and people with autoimmune issues have huge reactions, positive reactions.

   12. JLJoe List45:45

       Really?

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:46

       Yeah. My friend, he was having receding gum disorder, went away, and they say that that shit never goes away. Um, he lost 50 pounds. Jordan Peterson.

   14. JLJoe List45:55

       Oh, yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:56

       You know who that is?

   16. JLJoe List45:56

       Yeah, yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:57

       He's on that carnivore diet. He's been on it over a year. Just got his blood work tested. A lot of people are like, "You shouldn't even recommend that. It's so irresponsible." And there's arguments both ways, man. There's arguments that eating only vegetables is irresponsible 'cause large scale agriculture is like terrible for the environment. It displaces all this wildlife and animals and-

   18. JLJoe List46:15

       Right.

   19. JRJoe Rogan46:15

       ... they, in most cases, they're using something to kill the weeds. In most cases, they're using glyphosate or something like that.

   20. JLJoe List46:22

       Yeah, I mean, uh, fruit to me is always like, that's healthy. And then people are like, "Oh, there's sugar and you're..."

   21. JRJoe Rogan46:27

       Yeah.

   22. JLJoe List46:27

       "Whatever."

   23. JRJoe Rogan46:28

       There's fiber. Fruit's fine.

   24. JLJoe List46:30

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:30

       There's nothing wrong with fruit. It's like everything else. If you eat too much fruit, if you eat like 10 oranges-

   26. JLJoe List46:35

       Right.

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:35

       ... your body's like, "What the fuck, bro?" But like if you drink orange juice, that's not good because your body's like, "Where is all the fiber? Like what is this?"

   28. JLJoe List46:42

       Right.

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:42

       "What are you doing to me? Like why are you making me drink this sugar water?"

   30. JLJoe List46:46

       Yeah. I don't-
5. 1:00:00 – 1:03:58

   For sure. …

   1. JLJoe List1:00:00

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      For sure.

   3. JLJoe List1:00:00

      ... they end up going to places where they're very diverse.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:02

      Mm-hmm.

   5. JLJoe List1:00:02

      And part of becoming progressive I think is meeting a lot of these people that are... You know, gay people and Muslim people-

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:09

      Mm-hmm.

   7. JLJoe List1:00:09

      ... and trans people, and then you go, "Oh, these people are just like me, blah, blah, blah, I'm progressive."

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:13

      For sure. Yeah, there's that too.

   9. JLJoe List1:00:14

      That's gotta be part of it.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:15

       There's that too. But there's such a prevalence of fake humans that you gotta realize-

   11. JLJoe List1:00:21

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:21

       ... that, like, most of these people have no opinions. They're not real opinions. Like-

   13. JLJoe List1:00:25

       Right.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:25

       ... what, what they're doing is they're just sort of spouting out this predetermined pattern of behavior that they feel like would be accepted.

   15. JLJoe List1:00:33

       Yes. Oh, for sure. And I think, yeah, it's set up that way.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:37

       Yeah.

   17. JLJoe List1:00:37

       You know, like we said... I mean, I'm basically just saying what you just said.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:00:40

       Well, they just want it so bad.

   19. JLJoe List1:00:42

       Right.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:00:42

       They want it so bad.

   21. JLJoe List1:00:44

       Yeah. Well, that's the danger of, um, being motivated by, uh, fame and-

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:00:49

       Yeah.

   23. JLJoe List1:00:49

       ... success.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:00:50

       It's so bad.

   25. JLJoe List1:00:52

       That's where I think, uh- (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:00:52

       (laughs)

   27. JLJoe List1:00:52

       ... what helps (laughs) a lot of comedians is it starts off, the seed is not fame or fortune, it's like, "I wanna be as funny as... I wanna bring as much joy to the audience as I can."

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:02

       Yeah.

   29. JLJoe List1:01:02

       And so as long as you can keep that, you end up being a-... a pretty decent person and a good artist.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:08

       Yeah, you just wanna kill.

Episode duration: 2:25:54