The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #1298 - Neal Brennan
EVERY SPOKEN WORD
150 min read · 30,014 words- 0:00 – 15:00
Let me sign my…
- NBNeal Brennan
Let me sign my waiver.
- JRJoe Rogan
Sign the waiver, dude, bre-
- NBNeal Brennan
Before I ...
- JRJoe Rogan
We're live.
- NBNeal Brennan
Great.
- JRJoe Rogan
While you sign that sound?
- NBNeal Brennan
Great, I'm glad that people are seeing me-
- JRJoe Rogan
As Neal Brennan, sign there.
- NBNeal Brennan
... as witne- ... Everyone will be a notary, notary public.
- JRJoe Rogan
I wonder if they can li- ... If there's, uh, software that can listen to the sound your pen is making and figure out the lines you're drawing. You know, they have, um, technology now where when people are speaking in a room with a w- with a window, that it c-
- NBNeal Brennan
That they can get rid of the window noise?
- JRJoe Rogan
They can ... No, they can tune into the vibrations of the window from the sound of your voice and pick up everything that's being said in the room.
- NBNeal Brennan
I heard that there's a Netfl- ... You ... Because before ... I mean-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- NBNeal Brennan
... Netflix doesn't give people ratings, but there's a way that they're ... You can get s- ... They can gauge reflections off of wi- ... Some weird fuckin' technology where ... And it's fairly accurate.
- JRJoe Rogan
Reflections off of windows?
- NBNeal Brennan
Ref- ... Yes, I don't ... Someone ... It ... This is secondhand, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
In, like, cities or something?
- NBNeal Brennan
Like, secondhand. Not ... And it's, like, s- ... I believe it's sound waves.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- NBNeal Brennan
Um ...
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, wow.
- NBNeal Brennan
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
How the ... What are they monitoring? Jamie's got something.
- NBNeal Brennan
I have no idea. Jamie, what do you got, Jamie?
- JVJamie Vernon
We can buy this right now if you want.
- NBNeal Brennan
Jamie?
- JRJoe Rogan
Long-range laser listening device.
- NBNeal Brennan
(laughs)
- JVJamie Vernon
(laughs)
- 15:00 – 30:00
Yeah, they could be…
- JRJoe Rogan
two straight guys who have to make out.
- NBNeal Brennan
Yeah, they could be played by straight guys.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- NBNeal Brennan
Absolutely. Then we're re-... Now we're talking.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- NBNeal Brennan
Now we're really talking.
- JRJoe Rogan
Now you're talking. (laughs) And now you're talking commitment.
- NBNeal Brennan
Uh, 'cause I was thinking about do wom-... If Tom Cruise was gay, right? Uh, and he just came out, and there's a movie where he has to save his wife-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- NBNeal Brennan
... would women not believe it? Do you know what I mean? Like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- NBNeal Brennan
... like, so if you come out. So it's like, all right, so now i- in the next Mission Impossible, they just kidnap his husband.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Well, for sure you could do that with lesbians, if you had two hot lesbians.
- NBNeal Brennan
Uh, yeah, of course.
- JRJoe Rogan
100%.
- NBNeal Brennan
Yeah. No, there's n- zero issues there.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, that would be no problem. You'd be-
- NBNeal Brennan
Uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) There'd be no resistance. And that's the difference between a lesbian actress. They can go. A woman who's a lesbian can play straight, gay-
- NBNeal Brennan
You know why that is, I believe.
- JRJoe Rogan
... gay, straight.
- NBNeal Brennan
'Cause n-... Uh, there's a big portion of men who never f- truly believe a lesbian.
- JRJoe Rogan
I have a bit about it.
- NBNeal Brennan
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I had a bit about it from one of my old specials. It's like, "We believe that you believe you're a lesbian."
- NBNeal Brennan
Yeah. But, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
But you just ain't got a piece of this sweet dick yet.
- NBNeal Brennan
(laughs) You never spent a Saturday with me at fu- at, uh, fucking Applebee's. I hit you with an Applebee's and then a bar, corner bar. Forget it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh. Oh.
- NBNeal Brennan
The panty dropper.
- 30:00 – 45:00
I- …
- JRJoe Rogan
of human interaction on this planet, uh, are largely dictated by our ability to discuss things, even if you disagree.
- NBNeal Brennan
I-
- JRJoe Rogan
You have to be able to talk.
- NBNeal Brennan
I actually do agree with you that, that the, I think like deplatforming and silencing and he's a, uh ...
- JRJoe Rogan
Dangerous.
- NBNeal Brennan
Like, I don't ... There are very few people-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- NBNeal Brennan
... that, well, there's no one that I agree with 100% of the time.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- NBNeal Brennan
Including-
- JRJoe Rogan
Even yourself.
- NBNeal Brennan
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- NBNeal Brennan
Including your joke about like, you don't agree with yourself.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- NBNeal Brennan
Like-
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't. Yeah.
- NBNeal Brennan
I don't, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's real.
- NBNeal Brennan
Yeah. Well, that's also, there's something Buddhist about it which is like, your thoughts are not-Correct.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- NBNeal Brennan
They're not even your thoughts, they're just like noise.
- JRJoe Rogan
And they're depended upon your emotions sometimes.
- NBNeal Brennan
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're depended upon- upon your stress levels.
- NBNeal Brennan
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know, sometimes you just like- you're- you just don't have it in you and you're like, "Stop!"
- NBNeal Brennan
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And then other times y- the same situation, you'd be super calm and reasonable and maybe you could turn it around.
- NBNeal Brennan
Yeah, if you've eaten.
- 45:00 – 1:00:00
I have a, a…
- JRJoe Rogan
somewhere where there's a lot of animals and there's wildlife. And you have, you have cold, you have water, you have a lot... Like, cold is better than heat. Because cold you can make a fire. Like, if you have shelter and you can make a fire, in the cold you can live. With heat, you're fucked.
- NBNeal Brennan
I have a, a counterargument which is I don't, I th- the cold kills more people than heat.
- JRJoe Rogan
Sure it does, hypothermia it does.
- NBNeal Brennan
Like, every year, yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
But that's just because y- you know, people are unprepared for it. You can prepare for cold with clothing. You can't really prepare for heat with clothing. With heat, you need air conditioning and you need water. Those are two things that are critical.
- NBNeal Brennan
Or at least shade.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, you need something. If you live in, like there's, people that have lived in very cold climates, as long as they have a good house and they have a good supply of wood, they're fine. If you live in the desert, man, you're kinda fucked. You're kinda fucked if the power goes out.
- NBNeal Brennan
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You don't really have anything to keep you cool. You have to stay in the shade and stay indoors, but it's not good enough when it's 110 degrees inside and it's 125, 130 outside.
- NBNeal Brennan
If you're hydrated though, I don't think you will just die from ex- from heat exposure.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, you won't, but you're not gonna find a lot of water. One of the problems with global warming is gonna be that things like lakes, lakes and streams are gonna, uh, there's gonna be less.
- NBNeal Brennan
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's gonna be less water. There's gonna be less dribbling down to the creeks. Creeks are gonna dry up. L- streams will dry up. You're gonna have a hard time getting water if you're in a desert environment. But-
- NBNeal Brennan
If you have, by, by the same token, if you have enough wat- you have as much water as you have wood, obviously the, it's not a one-to-one analogy 'cause you-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- NBNeal Brennan
... can go get more wood easily.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- NBNeal Brennan
But if you had a shit load of water, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- NBNeal Brennan
If you just had like... I, I hear your thought about getting cold, but I don't know. If I had shade, I guess you don't, I guess with cold, you don't n- have to have electricity.
- JRJoe Rogan
You don't have to have electricity with cold, and also you have more of an opportunity to find animals. You'll find more animals in cold climates than you're gonna find in hot climates.
- NBNeal Brennan
More delicious animals, for sure.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, yeah. More things to eat. But you might n- you could still eat a- easily starve to death. Like, the idea that it's easy to go out there and, and shoot a bunch of animals and eat them all the time, like, not most places. Most places you don't have an abundant enough s- supply of wildlife.
- NBNeal Brennan
You're also a guy who does archery, so fuckin'- (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I know how to-
- NBNeal Brennan
Like, you have skills for this, for this.
- JRJoe Rogan
I would. Um, told me 10 years ago and it stuck with me, "Go to the marina." 'Cause I live in Venice. "Go to the marina and basically just get pa- " Basically, you gotta pay to get on a boat or just be like, "I will be..." The hard part is how do I qualify to, like, "I can help you." (laughs)
- NBNeal Brennan
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Because I get seasick. Here's what I have going for me, seasick, queasy.
- NBNeal Brennan
Why, why a boat?
- 1:00:00 – 1:04:10
Yeah. …
- NBNeal Brennan
that are responsible for the... 'Cause the other thing is so many t- This is the first time like in, in certainly in media history where guys are in charge of their own everything.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- NBNeal Brennan
Like-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's true.
- NBNeal Brennan
... you own the lab- I mean, there's not even a label. It's just my thing. There... Artists tried. Like the Beatles had a record label, and they would bring people on, and then they would... It- they- it always got fucked up.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mmm.
- NBNeal Brennan
Every single time. And this I feel like is the first time where it's like Segura's got like, you know, his umbrella now. He's got like his o- he's got his spinoffs. And, uh, it's fucking excellent.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- NBNeal Brennan
It's just excellent.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's an amazing time.
- NBNeal Brennan
It's so great. I was talking to a, a guy who used to be in charge at, at, uh, Viacom, and we were talking about-... you know, when they- when people do shows now, like, you know, they'll pay, uh, Kenny Barris or they'll pay Shonda Rhimes or they'll pay Dave, Ellen, Chris, all these guys, like, 20 million. The writers get 100. Buddy of mine, Mike Schur, created Good Place and, um, Parks and Rec, and he's getting 25 mil a year for the next five years.
- JRJoe Rogan
Jesus-
- NBNeal Brennan
Yeah, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
... Christ.
- NBNeal Brennan
(laughs) And his shows aren't-
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoo!
- NBNeal Brennan
... hits. His hard- his shows are picked up and successful, but they're not like Cheers, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- NBNeal Brennan
Um, and I said to Doug Herzog, the guy from Fu- I go, "How much were you fucking guys making before?" What were these, what were these companies making 20 years ago? Like, what was ABC making 20 years ago that they- and they- even Seinfeld said that he- he's like, "I was the first one to get 100, uh, uh, million an episode." And I go, "Which is a pittance compared to what they could have paid you." And he's like, "I know that now, but back then, $1 million in-" uh.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- NBNeal Brennan
What? What are you even gonna do with it? And now it's like, what are they gonna do with it?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- NBNeal Brennan
What the fuck are- they were making- they were making 100 million an episode, but because it's a logo and a corporation, you go, "Well, that's what a corporation is supposed to make, $100 million an episode." Meanwhile, if a guy makes a million, you're like, "What are you gonna-" it's like this unfathomable thing. It's like where they get mad at basketball players and not the owners of the teams.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, and- and it's also that distribution model of, like, putting something on a network. It's- there's so much fat, there's so many people-
- NBNeal Brennan
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... there's so many things that you have to pay.
- NBNeal Brennan
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's so much- so many different places the money goes. It's almost like you have to make $100 million an episode for everybody to make out.
- NBNeal Brennan
Yeah, but also, no, they don't. But also-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
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