Joe Rogan Experience #1301- Laird Hamilton

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   And we're live. How…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:02

      And we're live. How are you, sir? What's going on, man?

   2. LHLaird Hamilton0:05

      Very well, thank you.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      First of all, thank you very much for the coffee machine, and this o- I just learned that it's turmeric. I used to say tumeric. I used to not even think there was an R in there for some strange reason.

   4. LHLaird Hamilton0:16

      Well, in Hawaii, it's olena. So it just-

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      Oh, really?

   6. LHLaird Hamilton0:18

      ... depends on which country you're in. Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      It's a diff- what does, what does, what is it? It's a root, right?

   8. LHLaird Hamilton0:22

      Yeah. It's in the ginger family.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:24

      And is it, uh, why do they call it olena? Is that a Polynesian word for it?

   10. LHLaird Hamilton0:26

       It's just a Hawaiian name. I mean, the Indians probably have another.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       Oh.

   12. LHLaird Hamilton0:30

       You know, in India, it's probably one of the most used, uh, you know, u- roots. They, it's in every, all Indian food is just full of it.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       Yeah. It's really healthy for you, right? It's great for inflammation.

   14. LHLaird Hamilton0:42

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:42

       Just-

   16. LHLaird Hamilton0:42

       And, well, gut health too.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       Mm. So you, uh, gave me this-

   18. LHLaird Hamilton0:47

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       ... layered superfoods coffee machine, and I'm addicted to this now, this coffee with turmeric. I've never had it before.

   20. LHLaird Hamilton0:54

       Well, there's some other minerals and stuff in there too.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:56

       Mm-hmm.

   22. LHLaird Hamilton0:56

       So if you're addicted to it, it's 'cause there's things that are good for you.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:59

       Yeah, like, I crave it.

   24. LHLaird Hamilton1:00

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:00

       Like, it seems-

   26. LHLaird Hamilton1:01

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01

       ... like something I should be drinking.

   28. LHLaird Hamilton1:01

       Well, your body wants it.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       Yeah.

   30. LHLaird Hamilton1:03

       You know, I think sometimes people think cravings are based on negative, like "Oh, I just, it's bad 'cause I crave it." But I think cravings are natural. I think when, but it's, you know, we abuse it when we use garbage, but-
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   At 85 he was…

   1. LHLaird Hamilton15:00

      uh, and he was cr- I mean, he did the Ironman 10 times. The first time was hi- when he was 50, um, and then he's done the Race Across America three times. I mean, he does just... He was just an animal. Bang iron every day, ride the bike, just, just, uh ...

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:13

      At 85 he was doing all that still?

   3. LHLaird Hamilton15:14

      An animal.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:16

      (laughs)

   5. LHLaird Hamilton15:16

      An animal till the day he died. It was like-

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:18

      Wow.

   7. LHLaird Hamilton15:18

      ... and- and his name was, and this is, the irony was is his name was Don Wildman. And so-

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:23

      (laughs)

   9. LHLaird Hamilton15:23

      ... like, that's his given name. No, I'm serious. That's his-

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:25

       That's amazing. (laughs)

   11. LHLaird Hamilton15:26

       His given name. I go, "Anybody named the Wildman's gotta keep it up." But he was, you know, like you're talking about, uh, when you can see it, right? When you can, what does it look like when I see ... I mean, you look at ... It's interesting to see in sports right now. We have a lotta athletes right now that are operating as th- they're the oldest that, you know, that they-

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:43

       Yeah.

   13. LHLaird Hamilton15:43

       ... that we've seen and, uh, uh, I believe a lot of it has to do with the fact that- that, uh, you know, that they've s- have some examples but they're also not ta- accepting that, "Hey, now you're too old." Like, that's-

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:56

       Yeah.

   15. LHLaird Hamilton15:56

       ... because that's a decision. Like, "Hey, oh, now you're too old. Oh, yeah, you, you know, you're gonna keep doing that?" It's like, "Yeah, you're gonna do it all the way until they throw the dirt on the box." You know? Like, we're going all the way full speed until we're not and then when we're not, we're not.

   16. JRJoe Rogan16:09

       What did, uh, Mr. Wildman die of?

   17. LHLaird Hamilton16:11

       Uh, it was ... Eventually it was a cancer that he couldn't get, uh, fight through chemo.

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:17

       Oh.

   19. LHLaird Hamilton16:17

       And so, but it- but it- but it was within, like, a couple weeks.

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:19

       Oh, man.

   21. LHLaird Hamilton16:19

       Like, he just was, like, shut it down. Um, he, it was, at one point he was like the e- he was a little bit like the Everready Bunny and- and Humpty Dumpty. Like, he would just ... Like, double knee surgery, like, within, like ... He had a broken leg and he'd be on a stationary bike with a crutch on one of the pedals and he'd be pedaling and crutching, while on the other leg ... I mean, he was just absolutely out of his mind. A- and-

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:44

       (laughs)

   23. LHLaird Hamilton16:44

       ... and the doctors would be like, "Oh, you're healing faster than a 30-year-old." And I'm like, "Yeah, well, he's, 'cause he's just a cardio monster and so he's getting that blood flow." And, uh, and he, uh ... We were helicopter snowboarding in Chile the s- uh, last summer, not this one but the one before, and I was with a g- I'm with a guide and the guide goes, "Hey, you know, uh, how old's your buddy?" And I'm like, "Uh, he's 84." And he looked at me and he's like, "Yeah, no, I, no, I mean, but how old is he?" And I'm like, "He's 84." And he's like, "Yeah, he's 84. Like, check it out, buddy."

   24. JRJoe Rogan17:15

       (laughs)

   25. LHLaird Hamilton17:15

       He's throwing, he's going fakie and, like, I mean, he's-

   26. JRJoe Rogan17:18

       (laughs)

   27. LHLaird Hamilton17:18

       You know. He was, but he was our, you know, he was our poster child. He's our guy. We look at-

   28. JRJoe Rogan17:23

       Right.

   29. LHLaird Hamilton17:23

       ... we go ... I- I mean, and I've had a few of those, I think i- i- i- you know, that I've been exposed to in my life where there's guys that just ... Those are the guys that I always admired. I always admired the guys that just were always going full speed and never, never circam- you know, they didn't succumb to the, all that, all that pressure from society like, "Hey, you're old now. What are you gonna, still do that? What do you think you're a kid?" Just all the bullshit-

   30. JRJoe Rogan17:48

       Right.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Yeah. …

   1. LHLaird Hamilton30:00

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      Yeah.

   3. LHLaird Hamilton30:00

      You're, you're done. You start losing your motor skills and your tol- if you can build that tolerance up and I think, like you said, hey, if you go in 200 and 220 and then all of a sudden you're at yoga, uh, you know, you're at hot yoga and it's 105 and you're just like, (whistles) you know, camping out-

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:16

      Yeah, it seems like nothing.

   5. LHLaird Hamilton30:16

      Yeah. (laughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:16

      It really does make a giant difference.

   7. LHLaird Hamilton30:17

      It does.

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:18

      And I've only been doing it at 200 for a couple months now.

   9. LHLaird Hamilton30:20

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:20

       Really and 210 like for, like I said, the last few days.

   11. LHLaird Hamilton30:23

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:24

       But you have been doing it this hot for how long?

   13. LHLaird Hamilton30:26

       Well, I've been doing it for a while.... like I've been doing, it's been af- over the last couple years. You know, I did one, uh, I did a protocol that, uh, I heard on, uh, Dr. Rhonda Patrick's, uh, show, and sh- and it was, uh, holding, uh, a one-hour, uh, a one-hour straight at somewhere between 170 to 180.

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:46

       Whoa.

   15. LHLaird Hamilton30:47

       So that's another, and you, if you do that 10 days in a row, I was doing it twice a day for 10 days in a row, and you're supposed to get, like, some 1600% hormonal boost, like your whole body just goes into this radical hormone boost.

   16. JRJoe Rogan31:00

       So 170 to 180, somewhere in that range?

   17. LHLaird Hamilton31:02

       Yep.

   18. JRJoe Rogan31:03

       Interesting.

   19. LHLaird Hamilton31:03

       170, one day, one hour straight, and I was doing that, and I, and I did it twice a day for, uh, 10 days in a row-

   20. JRJoe Rogan31:09

       Wow.

   21. LHLaird Hamilton31:10

       ... and, and, and, uh, and, and, and at the end of that, you got a different gear. It's like all of a sudden you got OD in your, in your sh- in your-

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:18

       Mm.

   23. LHLaird Hamilton31:19

       ... in your gearbox, you know?

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:20

       Interesting. Well, it definitely increases the red blood cell count, correct?

   25. LHLaird Hamilton31:24

       Absolutely.

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:24

       Yeah.

   27. LHLaird Hamilton31:25

       I mean, I don't know all the science. I just usually go off of, you know, uh, I usually go off of, uh, of instinct-

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:31

       Mm-hmm.

   29. LHLaird Hamilton31:31

       ... and then, and then I, and then sometimes it gets validated by, by science. And, and so at the end, you know, you, you, I mean, I, I, I think, and, and I, and there really isn't any s- any studies on it, but I truly believe that, that, that heat is better after performance for recovery-

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:50

       Mm-hmm.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Mm-hmm. …

   1. LHLaird Hamilton45:00

      back and look at it from a distance-

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:03

      Mm-hmm.

   3. LHLaird Hamilton45:03

      ... y- when you're in it-

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:04

      Yeah.

   5. LHLaird Hamilton45:04

      ... I think you get too detailed and then you can't, you know, you, you can't be... I think you, I think it could be better because of that.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:12

      Yeah.

   7. LHLaird Hamilton45:12

      I think maybe, maybe it'd be profitable, you know. (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:15

      (laughs) It's hard, man. It's a hard fucking business. Yeah.

   9. LHLaird Hamilton45:18

      Well, yeah. I mean, you're, you're competing against, you know, the big boys.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:22

       Yeah, right. But, but, but what's interesting is he-

   11. LHLaird Hamilton45:25

       The oil.

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:26

       ... even though they are doing that, they've managed to- he's managed to make something that's so different than anything else.

   13. LHLaird Hamilton45:31

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:32

       Do you have one?

   15. LHLaird Hamilton45:32

       D- no, I don't.

   16. JRJoe Rogan45:33

       Fuck, man. They're crazy.

   17. LHLaird Hamilton45:35

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan45:35

       I, I, I was re- reluctant.

   19. LHLaird Hamilton45:37

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan45:37

       I totally walked by one-

   21. LHLaird Hamilton45:37

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan45:37

       ... when he did the podcast.

   23. LHLaird Hamilton45:38

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan45:39

       But I was like, "Goddamn it, I like muscle cars. I like hearing engines." But I drove that thing, I was like, "Oh, other cars are stupid. They're all stupid."

   25. LHLaird Hamilton45:46

       Stupid. They are.

   26. JRJoe Rogan45:46

       They're archaic- They are.

   27. LHLaird Hamilton45:47

       ... compared to that thing.

   28. JRJoe Rogan45:48

       They are.

   29. LHLaird Hamilton45:48

       It's effortless.

   30. JRJoe Rogan45:48

       Well, and, and all the- and you see all the companies going that way now.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:03:31

   Right, right, right. Like,…

   1. LHLaird Hamilton1:00:00

      will tourniquet the guy's leg.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:01

      Right, right, right. Like, if you met, if you saw someone in the woods fall and break their leg and was just you two, you'd feel totally connected to that person. Whereas, if you saw someone where there's 100 people around, the guy falls or gets hit by a car, you're like, "Well, that ain't my problem."

   3. LHLaird Hamilton1:00:13

      That ain't my problem.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:14

      Yeah.

   5. LHLaird Hamilton1:00:14

      And everybody goes, "That's not my problem." So everybody-

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:16

      Diffusion.

   7. LHLaird Hamilton1:00:16

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:16

      Yeah, diffusion of responsibility, yeah, happens in large groups of people. You feel like somebody's gonna handle this, and it ain't me.

   9. LHLaird Hamilton1:00:22

      Some- and no one does.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:23

       Yeah, and no one does. They, yeah, there was a video that I watched recently of this guy. There was, uh, I don't know what was happening but it was outside at night, some sort of a nightclub sort of a situation. This woman hit this guy, and this guy knocked out this one woman. And then another girl came at him, he knocked her out too. And the guy's filming it, someone's filming it, and they're not doing anything about it. No one's n- no one's tackling this guy, no one's grabbing him. The guy runs away successfully, and then the LAPD put a thing out looking for this guy. I'm like, "How the fuck does the guy with the camera live with himself?"

   11. LHLaird Hamilton1:00:51

       Exactly.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:51

       How did you just film-

   13. LHLaird Hamilton1:00:52

       Exactly.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:52

       ... this guy punch two women?

   15. LHLaird Hamilton1:00:54

       Exactly.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:54

       Yeah.

   17. LHLaird Hamilton1:00:55

       Exact-

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:00:55

       Unless you're a woman too, and you're like, "I don't want this guy fucking me up too." I don't know who-

   19. LHLaird Hamilton1:00:58

       Well, you just hit him with a brick then.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:01:00

       ... you're filming it really. If you have one.

   21. LHLaird Hamilton1:01:00

       I mean, you know, whatever. I've been-

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:01:01

       Yeah.

   23. LHLaird Hamilton1:01:01

       ... just saying, just, you know-

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:03

       Right, right.

   25. LHLaird Hamilton1:01:03

       ... drive your car a-

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:04

       Right.

   27. LHLaird Hamilton1:01:04

       ... drive your car on him. (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:05

       Yes.

   29. LHLaird Hamilton1:01:06

       I just wanna, you know?

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:07

       But it's, it is strange how we lose our humanity in these giant numbers.

Episode duration: 2:19:14