Joe Rogan Experience #1304 - Brendan Schaub

1. 0:00 – 1:28

   Showtime special nerves, editing pain, and handling criticism

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      Australia, two-

   2. BSBrendan Schaub0:02

      Salute, my brother.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:03

      Salute, brother.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub0:04

      Oh, yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:05

      What does it feel like having a Showtime special?

   6. BSBrendan Schaub0:07

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:07

      (laughs)

   8. BSBrendan Schaub0:08

      I don't know. I feel the same. A little more stressed out.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:10

      A little stressed out?

   10. BSBrendan Schaub0:10

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:11

       Yeah, stay away from them comments, son. There's a whole deal with all that stuff, man. You put it out, you watch it, you hate it-

   12. BSBrendan Schaub0:17

       Yep.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:17

       ... you get better.

   14. BSBrendan Schaub0:18

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:18

       It forces ya.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub0:19

       Yep.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:19

       Forces you to work. I fucking hate everything I do, so there's no- there's no (laughs) getting around it. You're gonna hate it.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub0:24

       You hate hearing yourself, right?

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       Ugh. Y- the editing is painful.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub0:28

       Oh, man.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       Ooh.

   22. BSBrendan Schaub0:29

       The worst.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       But you'll get better.

   24. BSBrendan Schaub0:31

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       You just take the- some of the criticism to heart, understand what people are saying.

   26. BSBrendan Schaub0:35

       For sure.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       And just, uh, fucking keep on keeping on, my brother.

   28. BSBrendan Schaub0:39

       Yeah, I'm- I'm happy about it. I just- I- I- I don't- I think I'm stressed out this week 'cause last week I was doing publicity for, like, New York-

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       Mm-hmm.

   30. BSBrendan Schaub0:46

       ... like, hustling, doing all that.
2. 1:28 – 9:58

   Comedians roasting each other: Gaffigan vs. Neal Brennan and the art of bowing out

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:28

      Did you see Gaffigan and Neil- and Neal Brennan?

   2. BSBrendan Schaub1:31

      No.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:32

      Dude.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub1:32

      No way.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:33

      Gaff- Gaffigan lit Neal Brennan on fire-

   6. BSBrendan Schaub1:35

      For what?

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:36

      ... and shit on his embers.

   8. BSBrendan Schaub1:38

      F- no.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:38

      Yes, he did.

   10. BSBrendan Schaub1:39

       For what?

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:39

       Neal started it.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub1:40

       Why?

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:41

       Neal started it. I'm gonna- I'm gonna send it to Jamie. I'm gonna send it to Jamie in the-

   14. BSBrendan Schaub1:44

       Oh, I'm so excited for this.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:45

       ... in my Sober October text message group. And listen, I love Neal.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub1:49

       Oh, Neal's one of my favorite people.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:51

       He's not- I'm not- but when someone gets roasted, someone gets roasted.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub1:53

       Yeah, there's nothing-

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:54

       And- and- and it's even better because he started it. He started it for no reason.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub1:57

       Oh, no.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:58

       Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He tried to be snarky. Here, Jamie, I'm sending this to you right now.

   22. BSBrendan Schaub2:03

       Jim Gaffigan is a mon-mon-mon-monster fantastic in Transylvania 3.

   23. JRJoe Rogan2:08

       Um, ya- was he?

   24. BSBrendan Schaub2:08

       Oh, amazing.

   25. JRJoe Rogan2:09

       Oh, I saw that.

   26. BSBrendan Schaub2:10

       Van Helsing too.

   27. JRJoe Rogan2:10

       Which one was he?

   28. BSBrendan Schaub2:11

       He was Van Helsing.

   29. JRJoe Rogan2:12

       Was he really?

   30. BSBrendan Schaub2:12

       Yeah.
3. 9:58 – 12:13

   Australia & New Zealand touring, and why driving on the ‘wrong’ side still exists

   1. BSBrendan Schaub9:58

      And that's America. But also, isn't there parts of Australia and Africa where no one's really there so if we had to, we could colonize that and, like, make it more livable?

   2. JRJoe Rogan10:08

      Bro, the onl- the parts of Australia where no one lives, no one wants to live. You don't wanna live in the fucking middle-

   3. BSBrendan Schaub10:13

      Could be tough.

   4. JRJoe Rogan10:14

      ... where all the crocodiles are and shit.

   5. BSBrendan Schaub10:15

      Yeah, but we could figure it out.

   6. JRJoe Rogan10:16

      Yeah, you could figure it out, but it's-

   7. BSBrendan Schaub10:17

      Shoot a couple crocs, build a loft.

   8. JRJoe Rogan10:19

      Fucking snakes everywhere that'll kill you. I mean, there's a lot of parts of Austr- Australia's huge. It's as big as the United States.

   9. BSBrendan Schaub10:25

      It's so big and th- but there's giant parts of Africa, too.

   10. JRJoe Rogan10:27

       Mm-hmm.

   11. BSBrendan Schaub10:28

       Giant parts where we could live if we had to.

   12. JRJoe Rogan10:30

       But Australia has less people than LA.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub10:32

       I know.

   14. JRJoe Rogan10:33

       The whole goddamn country.

   15. BSBrendan Schaub10:34

       You've been there, right?

   16. JRJoe Rogan10:35

       Yeah, a bunch. I love it.

   17. BSBrendan Schaub10:37

       Love it there.

   18. JRJoe Rogan10:37

       Love it. Nice people.

   19. BSBrendan Schaub10:38

       You've done- you've done ... I'm sure you've done comedy.

   20. JRJoe Rogan10:40

       Yeah, yeah.

   21. BSBrendan Schaub10:40

       Yeah, yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan10:40

       A bunch of times.

   23. BSBrendan Schaub10:41

       The best.

   24. JRJoe Rogan10:41

       Yeah, Sydney, Melbourne, uh, M- Melbourne's great. L-

   25. BSBrendan Schaub10:43

       Amazing.

   26. JRJoe Rogan10:43

       I love Sydney, too, though. I have a great time there.

   27. BSBrendan Schaub10:45

       You've been to New Zealand?

   28. JRJoe Rogan10:47

       Yeah. No, never been to New Zealand.

   29. BSBrendan Schaub10:48

       Oh.

   30. JRJoe Rogan10:48

       I heard it's amazing.
4. 12:13 – 19:28

   Luxury car economics: right-hand-drive bargains, Ferraris as status, and collector gatekeeping

   1. BSBrendan Schaub12:13

      But here's, here's a l- here's a little, uh, loophole. Like, if you want a dope ass, like, rare car, you can get one with driving on the right and it's gonna be cheaper. So if you want, like, a Ferrari F12 TDF, like a limited one-

   2. JRJoe Rogan12:24

      Mm-hmm.

   3. BSBrendan Schaub12:24

      ... you can save money if you get one that's set up on the right 'cause they're hard, they're h-

   4. JRJoe Rogan12:28

      Set up on the right like a English car would be?

   5. BSBrendan Schaub12:30

      Yeah. Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan12:31

      Really?

   7. BSBrendan Schaub12:31

      'Cause they're harder to resell because there's less-

   8. JRJoe Rogan12:33

      Good.

   9. BSBrendan Schaub12:33

      ... less people.

   10. JRJoe Rogan12:34

       Just throw them away.

   11. BSBrendan Schaub12:35

       Oh, come on, dude s-

   12. JRJoe Rogan12:35

       Fix it. Break something off.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub12:36

       But you could just drive on the right. Who gives ... You're still in that dope ass ride.

   14. JRJoe Rogan12:38

       Can they switch it out? Can they switch it out?

   15. BSBrendan Schaub12:39

       Ugh. It'd be expensive. Probably just buy it on the other side for half the price.

   16. JRJoe Rogan12:43

       Whoa. Imagine. Like, what are they gonna do? Switch it out.

   17. BSBrendan Schaub12:45

       They'd have to change everything. That's a nightmare.

   18. JRJoe Rogan12:47

       I saw they did that to this Revology car, this 1965 Mustang. They built one that was on right-hand drive. And I'm looking at them, I'm like, "This is all so screwy." Like, why would they do ... Why would people not come to an agreement on which side of the road to drive on?

   19. BSBrendan Schaub13:00

       It's very strange they just stick with it.

   20. JRJoe Rogan13:02

       All over the world. Yeah. And it differs. Differs from ... Like, in Europe, it differs from country to country.

   21. BSBrendan Schaub13:06

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan13:06

       You got to-

   23. BSBrendan Schaub13:06

       It's almost an ego thing now, right? Where they're like, "Nah, fuck it. We refuse to change." Ah, most of the world's on the left though, man. We don't care.

   24. JRJoe Rogan13:13

       Yeah. Well, Germany makes the best cars or some of the best cars.

   25. BSBrendan Schaub13:17

       For sure.

   26. JRJoe Rogan13:17

       They're on the left.

   27. BSBrendan Schaub13:18

       Europe makes the best cars and they're on the left, right?

   28. JRJoe Rogan13:21

       Yeah. America makes some pretty good cars, but really, the reality is they can't go toe to toe with Europe.

   29. BSBrendan Schaub13:27

       No.

   30. JRJoe Rogan13:27

       They just can't.
5. 19:28 – 23:06

   Mechanical vs. electric thrills: Porsches, custom builds, and Tesla ‘Ludicrous’ reality

   1. JRJoe Rogan19:28

      What I like about, like, custom cars is that they're mechanical. Like when I talk about, like, muscle cars or Porsches or stuff like that, what I like is that they're, they're mechanical.

   2. BSBrendan Schaub19:37

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan19:37

      Like, they're all stick shifts, manual transmissions. You feel the gears and you feel the ... I like that.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub19:44

      I love that.

   5. JRJoe Rogan19:45

      Yeah. I'm, that's ... I'm into that for whatever reason. But I'm also into that fucking Tesla. That Tesla's got me hooked.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub19:51

      Yeah, for sure.

   7. JRJoe Rogan19:53

      That thing puts a smile on my face. I know you-

   8. BSBrendan Schaub19:54

      Does it really?

   9. JRJoe Rogan19:55

      Oh my God.

   10. BSBrendan Schaub19:55

       More so than when you're in Porsches?

   11. JRJoe Rogan19:57

       Nope.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub19:57

       There you go.

   13. JRJoe Rogan19:58

       No. Not more so.

   14. BSBrendan Schaub19:59

       All right. Oh, man's gonna walk out.

   15. JRJoe Rogan20:00

       No. Different smile.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub20:01

       Different smile.

   17. JRJoe Rogan20:01

       Yeah, it's like, "Wow, the future's weird."

   18. BSBrendan Schaub20:03

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan20:04

       'Cause it just ... It's-

   20. BSBrendan Schaub20:04

       Doesn't make your day car.

   21. JRJoe Rogan20:05

       ... so much more capable. No, no, no, no, it's not ferocious.

   22. BSBrendan Schaub20:08

       No. A No- Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan20:09

       Like Ferrari's f- ferocious. (imitates engine revving) That noise, the engine explosions behind your ear, mid-engine car, that's a different thing. Like a muscle car, (imitates engine revving) that rumble, the fucking big-ass V8 and the fat tailpipes. That's a different feel, you know?

   24. BSBrendan Schaub20:26

       Completely different.

   25. JRJoe Rogan20:27

       Yeah, what you get from a Tesla is like, "Whoa." Every other car just seems stupid. It's like you're just making a lot of noise, but it just ... This thing just goes quicker. It goes places. It, like ... What the Tesla does, it violates what you think the laws of driving are in terms of, like, how quick a car can get from there to there. And it does it with no sound, so it's strange.

   26. BSBrendan Schaub20:48

       But ... And there's no ... There's no torque or anything, right?

   27. JRJoe Rogan20:49

       Oh, Jesus Christ.

   28. BSBrendan Schaub20:51

       It's just zero to hundr- It's just zero to-

   29. JRJoe Rogan20:51

       It's like 1,000 foot pounds of torque.

   30. BSBrendan Schaub20:53

       But isn't it just like ... Like a video game.
6. 23:06 – 31:32

   True crime rabbit hole: nightmares, serial killer fascination, and the JonBenét case

   1. BSBrendan Schaub23:06

      Dude, I, I've been in this ... And I've been having terrible dreams. I need to get off of it or just figure out how to deal, manage it better. But I was doing a, uh, show on Sirius with Jim Norton and he brought in this ... The guy who basically created Mindhunter. He was this like ... He's interviewed all the serial killers and speaks to them.

   2. JRJoe Rogan23:22

      Oh, yeah.

   3. BSBrendan Schaub23:22

      And they brought him in. I think his name is John Douglas. They brought him in and he's just talking a ... It was fascinating. I was like, "Oh shit." So I got his book, almost finished his book. I'm like, "This is great, man." And then started listening to a podcast he's on. It's just about, like, murder and death. And I started looking up all this Charles Manson stuff and I've been having awful nightmares and been a little depressed. And you know me, I'm ... It's very rare I'm down. It's just a dark fucking world, man.

   4. JRJoe Rogan23:47

      Yeah, you c- ... Watch those true crime shows though, fuck your head up, man.

   5. BSBrendan Schaub23:50

      (sighs) Dude, it makes you scared of-

   6. JRJoe Rogan23:51

      You don't want that.

   7. BSBrendan Schaub23:51

      ... everything.

   8. JRJoe Rogan23:52

      You don't want that in your life.

   9. BSBrendan Schaub23:52

      But it's also going on.

   10. JRJoe Rogan23:54

       It's going on-

   11. BSBrendan Schaub23:55

       Right?

   12. JRJoe Rogan23:56

       ... in very small numbers. Very, very small numbers, but it is going on. What it is is like people that have been abused, people that have been fucked up, psychopaths, and people that have been through the correction system, thr- through the penal system. Yeah. That's a lot of it.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub24:11

       It's so dark, man.

   14. JRJoe Rogan24:12

       There's not that many of them.

   15. BSBrendan Schaub24:13

       And this, this guy has, uh, three daughters. And I was like, "How can you ..." Like, he was telling about this seven-year-old, terrible story. And, uh, I was like, "How can you go home, man, and sleep?" He's like, "Eventually, you know, it's just a job. Like, it does affect me a little bit."

   16. JRJoe Rogan24:26

       Oh.

   17. BSBrendan Schaub24:26

       I'm like, I'm like, "Do you just lock up your kids?" Like, I'd be ... Like, just from hearing you, I, I don't want my son going to school. I don't want him leaving.He's like, "Nah, you learn to manage it." And he did say that. He's like, "That, the, this is the exception." Like, there's some dark stuff out there. But th- these gentlemen that I... He interviewed Charles Manson. He was saying how he's five two and he always has to speak over you, no matter what's going on. So they're in this room, there's three people and Charles Manson. He got on a chair and stood over him and shouted down to him.

   18. JRJoe Rogan24:52

       What was he saying?

   19. BSBrendan Schaub24:53

       Pfft... I don't... Probably trying to convert him into his fucking cult.

   20. JRJoe Rogan24:55

       "You made me, man! You people made me eat your garbage, man!"

   21. BSBrendan Schaub25:00

       (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan25:02

       "Man!"

   23. BSBrendan Schaub25:02

       "Man, I am a product of your society, man!" He's fucking crazy.

   24. JRJoe Rogan25:06

       He was crazy. He's dead as fuck.

   25. BSBrendan Schaub25:07

       He had a quote though, he has a, a quote that I was reading. Again, I'm too into it, man. I'm quoting Charles Manson. What's going on with my life? Um, he was saying that, uh, it used to be, like, you were the exception when you're crazy. Now everybody's crazy.

   26. JRJoe Rogan25:19

       That's what Manson was saying?

   27. BSBrendan Schaub25:20

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan25:20

       Hmm.

   29. BSBrendan Schaub25:21

       He's like, "It used to be kind of cool or the in thing to be crazy. Now w- inside, everybody's crazy."

   30. JRJoe Rogan25:25

       Well, he made it popular. The fuck?
7. 31:32 – 35:32

   Game of Thrones finale autopsy and how effects changed dragons forever

   1. JRJoe Rogan31:32

      Did you watch the Game of Thrones finale?

   2. BSBrendan Schaub31:34

      (sighs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan31:34

      Did you get bummed out?

   4. BSBrendan Schaub31:35

      I gu- I, uh, you know what? Not, uh...

   5. JRJoe Rogan31:36

      It's like somebody else wrote it.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub31:37

      I think they did gr- yeah, it's very strange. I thought they did, uh, I loved, I did like season eight. Not as good as the other seasons. Hey, let's spoil-

   7. JRJoe Rogan31:43

      Let's let everybody know right now.

   8. BSBrendan Schaub31:44

      ... spoiler alert. Hold up, what is today, Thursday?

   9. JRJoe Rogan31:49

      Yeah, yeah, yeah. But some people have jobs.

   10. BSBrendan Schaub31:50

       Is it Sunday?

   11. JRJoe Rogan31:51

       Some people have jobs, Brennan.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub31:52

       Sunday?

   13. JRJoe Rogan31:52

       Some people work all day.

   14. BSBrendan Schaub31:53

       Four days?

   15. JRJoe Rogan31:54

       Some people work all day.

   16. GUGuest31:55

       I read the New York Times, like, put it on the front page of the paper on Monday.

   17. BSBrendan Schaub31:58

       Oh, let's go.

   18. JRJoe Rogan31:58

       Yeah, we're clear bro.

   19. BSBrendan Schaub31:59

       Close c-

   20. JRJoe Rogan32:00

       We're clear, dude.

   21. GUGuest32:00

       I'm sorry, the series finale, I think you're allowed to.

   22. BSBrendan Schaub32:00

       Yeah, but they did that because they can do that. Not 'cause they should do that.

   23. GUGuest32:04

       Ah, whatever, man.

   24. BSBrendan Schaub32:05

       The next day's a little fu- well, I, I think, I think, I think-

   25. JRJoe Rogan32:08

       (laughs)

   26. BSBrendan Schaub32:08

       ... movies is, you got a week. Movies you got a week.

   27. JRJoe Rogan32:11

       (coughs)

   28. BSBrendan Schaub32:11

       TV show, two days.

   29. JRJoe Rogan32:14

       Mm. Damn, I don't know about that.

   30. BSBrendan Schaub32:14

       Especially for that... What, are we not supposed to talk about it 'cause you're busy? That's insane.
8. 35:32 – 39:18

   Words, intent, and “reprogramming” language habits in 2019

   1. JRJoe Rogan35:32

      I know. We gotta reprogram our brains, dude. How about with Charlemagne? I went, I said, "Bitch." I went, "Oh, that bitch is hot." And he goes, (laughs) he goes, "In 2019, you're still calling women bitches, huh?" I went, "No."

   2. BSBrendan Schaub35:45

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan35:45

      But you were.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub35:46

      But yes.

   5. JRJoe Rogan35:47

      Yeah.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub35:47

      But, but if any said that, I'd went, "You got a good point."

   7. JRJoe Rogan35:49

      Um-

   8. BSBrendan Schaub35:50

      Sometimes I do it on accident, like when we're watching fight- when we do a fight companion.

   9. JRJoe Rogan35:53

      Right, right, right.

   10. BSBrendan Schaub35:53

       I'll go, "Damn, that bitch is tough."

   11. JRJoe Rogan35:55

       Yeah, but you don't, it's all, here's the thing, man.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub35:57

       Context.

   13. JRJoe Rogan35:57

       Yes. Don't make more words toxic. It's all about intent. Like, what are you trying to say? Like, if a, if a, if a girl is a beast and she's just a badass woman, and she walks out and she's got... I'm good, I'm good. And she's got, like, this crazy tight skirt on, this banging body that she's worked hard at in the gym, and she's got a, a beautiful dress and she looks great, you're like, "Damn, that bitch is hot." That is not negative.

   14. BSBrendan Schaub36:25

       It's not negative.

   15. JRJoe Rogan36:25

       It's not negative.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub36:26

       Is it derogatory though? But does it-

   17. JRJoe Rogan36:28

       No, but it's not negative if, if you go, "You fucking silly bitch," to me. I'll laugh.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub36:32

       Hilarious.

   19. JRJoe Rogan36:32

       I'll fall down on the floor, I'll start laughing. Like, you can call me a bitch and I think it's funny.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub36:36

       Yeah, me too.

   21. JRJoe Rogan36:36

       It's, it's all about int- but if you're like, "Hey man, you know-"

   22. BSBrendan Schaub36:38

       "You been a bitch."

   23. JRJoe Rogan36:39

       ... "You fucking made fun of me on the podcast, bro. That was a bitch move," I'd be like, "Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa."

   24. BSBrendan Schaub36:44

       Yeah, true.

   25. JRJoe Rogan36:44

       "Whoa, whoa."

   26. BSBrendan Schaub36:44

       But d-

   27. JRJoe Rogan36:45

       It's different.

   28. BSBrendan Schaub36:45

       Same thing as, like, when a, if a car drives by, I'd be like, "Damn, that motherfucker is bad."

   29. JRJoe Rogan36:49

       Yeah.

   30. BSBrendan Schaub36:49

       But if the guy rolled down his window and was like, "Hey, motherfucker."
9. 39:18 – 53:54

   Boxing violence up close: Wilder’s KO, matchmaking politics, and the 10-count problem

   1. JRJoe Rogan39:18

      I, uh, I was ringside when Deontay Wilder knocked out Breazale. I was in Brooklyn for that-

   2. BSBrendan Schaub39:22

      Oh, my God.

   3. JRJoe Rogan39:22

      ... with my brother. Bro.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub39:24

      Dude.

   5. JRJoe Rogan39:24

      Bro.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub39:25

      Dude.

   7. JRJoe Rogan39:26

      That guy.

   8. BSBrendan Schaub39:27

      It's, I... And I've been in a lot of f- I've been in fights, I've been knocked out. I've been at UFC fights where dudes get knocked out. I have never in my life heard someone get knocked out like that. My brother goes, "Oh, my God." And my brother is a raw dude. He goes, "Oh, my God." (laughs) And we're... They sat us next to his family.

   9. JRJoe Rogan39:44

      Mm.

   10. BSBrendan Schaub39:44

       And it ruined it for me.

   11. JRJoe Rogan39:46

       Oh, no.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub39:46

       Because-

   13. JRJoe Rogan39:46

       You can't cheer.

   14. BSBrendan Schaub39:47

       ... I saw the wife. Oh, I just, I, I just went-

   15. JRJoe Rogan39:50

       Yeah.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub39:50

       ... "Oh, my God."

   17. JRJoe Rogan39:51

       Yeah.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub39:51

       I didn't cheer. I wouldn't cheer anyway.

   19. JRJoe Rogan39:53

       Bro.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub39:53

       But I was just like, "Oh, my God." And this is the funniest part is (laughs) , uh, my boy, shout out to Brian, Brian Daly at Showtime, goes, "So in between rounds, um, probably, uh, two and three, Jim Gray is gonna come and interview you about your, uh, Showtime special." I go, "Oh, that, that'd be cool." They tell me the day before, so I get this nice outfit, and my brother's looking all fresh.

   21. JRJoe Rogan40:09

       Did you really think it was gonna get to round two or three?

   22. BSBrendan Schaub40:10

       I thought it was gonna go under four. I didn't think one round.

   23. JRJoe Rogan40:14

       Mm-mm.

   24. BSBrendan Schaub40:14

       But I thought there was a chance. They sit me there in the... They're like, "Jim Gray is gonna come," and then ka-chum. So I went, "All right, we should probably get out of here, huh?"

   25. JRJoe Rogan40:20

       (exhales)

   26. BSBrendan Schaub40:20

       "We should probably get out of here."

   27. JRJoe Rogan40:21

       Deontay, wow.

   28. BSBrendan Schaub40:22

       Dude, I'm telling you, man.

   29. JRJoe Rogan40:23

       He's something special.

   30. BSBrendan Schaub40:24

       He's so special, man.
10. 53:54 – 1:15:37

    MMA matchmaking and fighter development: Sage Northcutt’s brutal loss and ‘levels’ in striking

    1. BSBrendan Schaub53:54

       Dude, how about your boy Sage Northcutt?

    2. JRJoe Rogan53:57

       Yeah, Cosmo Alexandre is just-

    3. BSBrendan Schaub53:59

       Cosmo killed a guy.

    4. JRJoe Rogan53:59

       He's a beast. Did he?

    5. BSBrendan Schaub54:01

       Sage is still in the hospital. 17 fractures in his face.

    6. JRJoe Rogan54:04

       Yeah, no, he's still in the... Oh, I thought you meant-

    7. BSBrendan Schaub54:05

       One championship's in.

    8. JRJoe Rogan54:06

       ... he actually killed a guy outside of that.

    9. BSBrendan Schaub54:07

       No, no, no. No, he basically did.

    10. JRJoe Rogan54:08

        Because, you know, Sergei Kovalev did.

    11. BSBrendan Schaub54:10

        Yeah, I know.

    12. JRJoe Rogan54:11

        Kovalev killed a guy in a fight. Um, well, Cosmo Alexandre is a world-class Muay Thai fighter. I mean, John Wayne Parr fought him. You know, he fought-

    13. BSBrendan Schaub54:20

        Oh, what do you think?

    14. JRJoe Rogan54:20

        ... Nicky Holzken. He's world-class. As far as striking, it's a completely different level. But I guess because it was an MMA fight, he was willing to take it. But they s- they foot... They fought stand-up.

    15. BSBrendan Schaub54:30

        Poor management.

    16. JRJoe Rogan54:31

        And S- Sage took that karate stance and the dude circled off, um, to his right and landed that fucking right hand, and it was on the besot me.

    17. BSBrendan Schaub54:40

        That's the hardest right hand I've ever seen. I was... Can you ima... I, I can't think...

    18. JRJoe Rogan54:45

        Hmm.

    19. BSBrendan Schaub54:45

        Just a... From a world-class striker with four-ounce gloves on and he's circling into the right.

    20. JRJoe Rogan54:50

        Yeah.

    21. BSBrendan Schaub54:50

        And it's like a fucking bomb.

    22. JRJoe Rogan54:53

        It's pretty goddamn strong. And Cosmo's a beast of a man. I mean, he's a big, thick dude. See, I mean, a big, thick dude with multiple world titles to his name.

    23. BSBrendan Schaub55:03

        Don't you feel bad for Sage?

    24. JRJoe Rogan55:03

        You watch this again.

    25. BSBrendan Schaub55:04

        Do, do you feel bad for Sage?

    26. JRJoe Rogan55:05

        Yeah, it's a terrible matchup. I don't know why they, uh, agreed to let him fight that guy.

    27. BSBrendan Schaub55:10

        Boom!

    28. JRJoe Rogan55:10

        It's just not smart because that, because the, the kickboxing and the stand-up, like...

    29. BSBrendan Schaub55:14

        He doesn't have the experience to be in that.

    30. JRJoe Rogan55:16

        It's... No, no, no. He's... I mean, Sage is good. He's very good. But these, these kind of losses are terrible for a few... for his future.... because they're mismanagement losses in my opinion.

Episode duration: 2:32:16