Joe Rogan Experience #1307 - Greg Fitzsimmons

1. 0:00 – 2:28

   Reconstruction’s ‘Slavery by Another Name’ and the reparations dilemma

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      ... told me that.

   2. GFGreg Fitzsimmons0:01

      Haunting, yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:01

      Yeah. Boom, and we're live. What are you doing, Greg?

   4. GFGreg Fitzsimmons0:04

      I'm looking up the title of a book I wanna talk about.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:07

      Which book?

   6. GFGreg Fitzsimmons0:08

      It's an audiobook and it was about Reconstruction.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      Oh, we... what we were just talking about-

   8. GFGreg Fitzsimmons0:13

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      ... with slaves.

   10. GFGreg Fitzsimmons0:13

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:14

       Yeah.

   12. GFGreg Fitzsimmons0:14

       And it was about how, you know, once the, uh, um, once the slaves were freed, they still perpetuated slavery by, um, it was... it's called, uh... hang on, I gotta find it. By... Slavery By Another Name by Douglas, Douglas Blackmon and it's about how they would... they had... they put loitering laws in all around the country, and they would find Black people, and if they were standing around, they would arrest them. Or if there was, like, a petty larceny or a domestic violence thing, they'd arrest them for fucking two years with a trial with one judge and no jury. And the, the judge was very often a, uh, a magistrate of the coal mining company.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00

       Ugh.

   14. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:00

       They'd send the, the, the, the prisoner to a coal mine for two years where he'd work seven days a week with shackles on, and they would fucking whip them. And if they tried to escape, they tracked them down with dogs and they beat them, sometimes to death. And this went on for fucking decades.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:21

       Jesus-

   16. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:22

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:22

       ... Christ.

   18. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:23

       So people talk about, "Well, slavery ended back..." No-

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:26

       Not really.

   20. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:26

       ... forms of slavery went on for a long time.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:29

       Not only that. Slavery ended and what effort was done to sort of rectify the situation? What effort was done to, like, try to give even opportunities for people who grew up in African American cities that were predominantly slaves-

   22. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:47

       Hmm.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:48

       ... before 1865?

   24. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:49

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:50

       Like what, what's ever been done?

   26. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:52

       40 acres and a mule? Did they ever get that?

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:54

       Is that real?

   28. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:55

       I don't know. I think, I think it was a-

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:57

       But even, even if you're dealing with that, even if some people got 40 acres and a mule, like what... is that enough?

   30. GFGreg Fitzsimmons2:03

       No.
2. 2:28 – 3:44

   Georgetown reparations, DNA tracing, and fear of ‘reverse’ claims

   1. GFGreg Fitzsimmons2:28

      Do you know in... at Georgetown, did you read about this? Georgetown University is, um, giving reparations to the slaves that built the university.

   2. JRJoe Rogan2:35

      So do the families of the slaves, the ancestors, the families-

   3. GFGreg Fitzsimmons2:37

      They tracked them down with like 23andMe or one of those-

   4. JRJoe Rogan2:40

      Ah.

   5. GFGreg Fitzsimmons2:40

      ... companies-

   6. JRJoe Rogan2:41

      Jesus.

   7. GFGreg Fitzsimmons2:42

      ... and they, they, they're fucking knocking on doors and they're like, uh, "Hey are you blah blah blah? Well, your great-great-grandfather built Georgetown University." And they're assessing the students. I don't think it's official yet, um, but it looks like it's happening.

   8. JRJoe Rogan2:55

      My concern-

   9. GFGreg Fitzsimmons2:56

      They're assessing-

   10. JRJoe Rogan2:57

       ... and this is a big concern-

   11. GFGreg Fitzsimmons2:57

       ... the students like 50 bucks each or something.

   12. JRJoe Rogan2:59

       My big concern is that it's gonna go the other way.

   13. GFGreg Fitzsimmons3:02

       Hmm.

   14. JRJoe Rogan3:03

       They're gonna track down people's DNA and gonna go, "We found out that your family profited from slavery." Like (gasps) -

   15. GFGreg Fitzsimmons3:09

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan3:09

       ... "I'm '22."

   17. GFGreg Fitzsimmons3:10

       Yeah, right.

   18. JRJoe Rogan3:10

       "What the fuck did I do?"

   19. GFGreg Fitzsimmons3:12

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan3:13

       "Give me all your money. All of your money. All your ill-gotten gains."

   21. GFGreg Fitzsimmons3:17

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan3:17

       And you'd be like, "But no, no, no, no, my dad had a legitimate job. He worked for H&R Block and this and that."

   23. GFGreg Fitzsimmons3:22

       Uh-huh.

   24. JRJoe Rogan3:23

       Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But his grandfather got his money to raise his dad because he had slaves.

   25. GFGreg Fitzsimmons3:32

       Yeah. Well, wasn't Schwarzenegger's grandfather an SS solider?

   26. JRJoe Rogan3:36

       Ah, we gon' talk about that.

   27. GFGreg Fitzsimmons3:39

       He was a-

   28. JRJoe Rogan3:40

       Was he?

   29. GFGreg Fitzsimmons3:41

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan3:41

       His grandfather was?
3. 3:44 – 6:39

   Mob lore on Mulberry Street: Gotti, the Ravenite, and FBI surveillance tactics

   1. JRJoe Rogan3:44

      Whoa. Well, you know, like, there's a kid named, uh, John Gotti III. That's John Gotti the gangster's grandson.

   2. GFGreg Fitzsimmons3:53

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan3:53

      And he's an MMA fighter.

   4. GFGreg Fitzsimmons3:54

      Oh, no shit.

   5. JRJoe Rogan3:55

      And he's good.

   6. GFGreg Fitzsimmons3:56

      No shit.

   7. JRJoe Rogan3:57

      He's good, yeah.

   8. GFGreg Fitzsimmons3:58

      Wow.

   9. JRJoe Rogan3:59

      He's... so far he's fighting on these, uh, small promotions but he's fucking people up.

   10. GFGreg Fitzsimmons4:04

       Wow.

   11. JRJoe Rogan4:04

       And he's jacked.

   12. GFGreg Fitzsimmons4:05

       Wow.

   13. JRJoe Rogan4:06

       Yeah.

   14. GFGreg Fitzsimmons4:07

       Yeah, I remember John 'cause I lived, uh, on Mulberry Street in-

   15. JRJoe Rogan4:11

       Yeah. I remember that place.

   16. GFGreg Fitzsimmons4:13

       ... in, in Little Italy. And it was a fucking tenement apartment and downstairs, literally downstairs and one door over was the Ravenite Social Club, which was where Gotti met on Wednesday nights.

   17. JRJoe Rogan4:23

       Yeah.

   18. GFGreg Fitzsimmons4:23

       All the bosses would pull up and the, uh, the capos and I don't know the terms, but they lined up fucking limos-

   19. JRJoe Rogan4:30

       You saw them all?

   20. GFGreg Fitzsimmons4:30

       ... right up Mulberry Street. Oh, yeah. They'd walk-

   21. JRJoe Rogan4:32

       Wow.

   22. GFGreg Fitzsimmons4:32

       ... up and down the street smoking cigars and John Gotti Jr. was kind of in charge at that time, which I guess would be this guy's-

   23. JRJoe Rogan4:38

       Yes.

   24. GFGreg Fitzsimmons4:38

       ... father.

   25. JRJoe Rogan4:39

       Yes.

   26. GFGreg Fitzsimmons4:40

       And, uh, he, he... parent wasn't known as being that sharp.

   27. JRJoe Rogan4:44

       (gasps) How dare you.

   28. GFGreg Fitzsimmons4:44

       And, uh, well the family's-

   29. JRJoe Rogan4:46

       He's listening.

   30. GFGreg Fitzsimmons4:47

       ... kind of fell apart since then. I don't-
4. 6:39 – 8:50

   Classic movies and car-chase obsession: *Bullitt*, Mustangs, and filmmaking pace

   1. JRJoe Rogan6:39

      You know what I saw again recently? Bullet with Steve McQueen.

   2. GFGreg Fitzsimmons6:43

      Oh, so did I.

   3. JRJoe Rogan6:43

      Did you see it? Really?

   4. GFGreg Fitzsimmons6:43

      Were you seeing it on a plane?

   5. JRJoe Rogan6:44

      I think I did see it on a plane.

   6. GFGreg Fitzsimmons6:46

      See it on a plane. Yeah, on United or something.

   7. JRJoe Rogan6:48

      Yeah.

   8. GFGreg Fitzsimmons6:48

      What a, that fucking... That's my car. I saw that movie when I was young-

   9. JRJoe Rogan6:52

      That Mustang?

   10. GFGreg Fitzsimmons6:52

       ... and I said, "I want that fucking '69 Fastback Mustang."

   11. JRJoe Rogan6:55

       Oh, yeah.

   12. GFGreg Fitzsimmons6:56

       That's a badass car.

   13. JRJoe Rogan6:57

       It's a beautiful car.

   14. GFGreg Fitzsimmons6:58

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan6:58

       I think it's a '68.

   16. GFGreg Fitzsimmons7:00

       Is it '68?

   17. JRJoe Rogan7:01

       '67 or '68.

   18. GFGreg Fitzsimmons7:02

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan7:02

       I think it's a '68.

   20. GFGreg Fitzsimmons7:03

       And-

   21. JRJoe Rogan7:03

       There's this very specific shape that the '68 had, they had like the best rear end.

   22. GFGreg Fitzsimmons7:08

       Uh-huh.

   23. JRJoe Rogan7:08

       It's a beautiful, the, they had really a cool, uh, setup with the rear tail- taillights at '68.

   24. GFGreg Fitzsimmons7:14

       It was a little broader?

   25. JRJoe Rogan7:15

       It's just, it was weird looking.

   26. GFGreg Fitzsimmons7:17

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan7:17

       It just, it w- real unusual in compared to some of the other Mustangs, but I love it.

   28. GFGreg Fitzsimmons7:21

       Yeah, and-

   29. JRJoe Rogan7:21

       It's like, it's my favorite I think.

   30. GFGreg Fitzsimmons7:22

       And you watch those movies like that and you realize, you think it's gonna be a... There's one big car chase, that's it.
5. 8:50 – 11:14

   From Confederate flags to Daisy Dukes: how symbols and culture shift meaning

   1. JRJoe Rogan8:50

      That to me is one of the more interesting episodes in our culture, that that show, which was a beloved part of our past, is now taboo. You'll never find it anywhere because of the Confederate flag on the roof. And when we were kids-

   2. GFGreg Fitzsimmons9:02

      Oh yeah, that's a deal breaker.

   3. JRJoe Rogan9:04

      ... that Confederate... It's fucking KKK, it's racism-

   4. GFGreg Fitzsimmons9:06

      Mm-hmm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan9:07

      ... it's white sheets, it's... When we were kids, it meant the South.

   6. GFGreg Fitzsimmons9:10

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan9:11

      It didn't mean the same thing. There's a fucking poster that I have over the pisser from a Lynyrd Skynyrd concert, from like, set in somet- sometime during the '70s. They have a giant Confederate flag behind them on stage.

   8. GFGreg Fitzsimmons9:23

      Oh yeah, yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan9:23

      But it didn't mean they were racist. It meant they were from the South. But somewhere along the line, it shifted. This is where the argument gets weird, right? Because people will say, "Hey, it's not about that. It's about Southern pride." I understand it used to be about Southern pride, but now unfortunately, that flag is now connected to racism, so you're sending out a bad signal.

   10. GFGreg Fitzsimmons9:45

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan9:45

       So what you want that flag to mean for you, that's great. But what that flag means for other people has now changed.

   12. GFGreg Fitzsimmons9:52

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan9:52

       And you either accept that or, you know, you're fighting against it. "Oh, you can't get me to fucking... This means this to me." But people don't, the- there's, they're not think- people don't have time to rationally consider whether or not you're racist or whether or not you're from the South.

   14. GFGreg Fitzsimmons10:07

       Mm-hmm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan10:07

       What are you? Why do you have that flag?

   16. GFGreg Fitzsimmons10:09

       Mm-hmm.

   17. JRJoe Rogan10:09

       They don't have time to consider that. They just go, "Oh, you must be in the KKK. Oh, you must hate Black people. Oh bang, there it is, racist. You got that flag."

   18. GFGreg Fitzsimmons10:17

       Mm-hmm.

   19. JRJoe Rogan10:17

       So someth- something shifted like really radically and D- Dukes of Hazzard is like a great metric of it. It's one of the great things in our culture we could use to measure it. You know, look what happened. You had a hit show that literally sparked a type of clothing, the Daisy Dukes for gay men-

   20. GFGreg Fitzsimmons10:36

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan10:37

       ... and for girls-

   22. GFGreg Fitzsimmons10:38

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan10:38

       ... that are r- really sad. Like we see-

   24. GFGreg Fitzsimmons10:40

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan10:40

       ... a girl with Davy, Daisy Dukes, you're like, "Sweetie, you don't need that. You're hot without it."

   26. GFGreg Fitzsimmons10:44

       Oh, are you kidding me?

   27. JRJoe Rogan10:45

       Dudes keep trying so hard with those Daisy Dukes.

   28. GFGreg Fitzsimmons10:46

       I f- just went to a food truck before I got here and there was an Asian girl and like my favorite kind of Asian girl, she was a, I believe-

   29. JRJoe Rogan10:54

       Alive?

   30. GFGreg Fitzsimmons10:54

       ... Filipino, big lips-
6. 11:14 – 14:25

   Sexual double standards, incels, and the case for legal prostitution

   1. JRJoe Rogan11:14

      Here's what's interesting and this is the dynamic that, that's the difference between men and women. If we were de- describing this exact same thing but you were a girl and you were describing a guy, it would be innocent.

   2. GFGreg Fitzsimmons11:27

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan11:27

      It would be nothing.

   4. GFGreg Fitzsimmons11:28

      Mm-hmm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan11:29

      It wouldn't be creepy. It'd be like, "That girl is so horny, oh my God." Like if she was like, "I was in line and behind me was Jason Momoa. You know, Aquaman? Oh my God and if you think he looks good in movies, he looks so good in real life, sweetie. I couldn't stop, I was looking right at his dick. I looked at his dick and I looked at his face and I looked at his dick and look-"

   6. GFGreg Fitzsimmons11:48

      Yeah. (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan11:48

      And he started smiling, and I started nodding." And no one would care.

   8. GFGreg Fitzsimmons11:52

      No and you'd say, "That girl's liberated."

   9. JRJoe Rogan11:54

      Yeah.

   10. GFGreg Fitzsimmons11:55

       "She's free."

   11. JRJoe Rogan11:55

       "She's crazy. That girl's wild."

   12. GFGreg Fitzsimmons11:57

       Yeah, yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan11:57

       "But she could maybe grab it on the way out. Tap, tap."

   14. GFGreg Fitzsimmons11:59

       Hell yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan11:59

       "Give a little tap, tap, tap."

   16. GFGreg Fitzsimmons12:01

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan12:01

       "No, no one's gonna call the cops." Right?

   18. GFGreg Fitzsimmons12:04

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan12:04

       But if... That's the difference and that's w- so I think this is something that as men, this is a, a shaky one because there are definitely some fake male feminists out there that are just doing it because they want women to love them.

   20. GFGreg Fitzsimmons12:18

       Mm-hmm.

   21. JRJoe Rogan12:19

       And they say a bunch of shit that really screws the curve up.... but if you're being honest and you're being rational, you have to realize that the way a woman perceives being hit on is gonna be way different than the way a guy does, 'cause the girl's in danger. She's in potential danger, like legitimately.

   22. GFGreg Fitzsimmons12:36

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan12:36

       Like if you were some fucking serial killer psychopath and you decided to follow her back to her house, that's on the menu.

   24. GFGreg Fitzsimmons12:42

       Mm-hmm.

   25. JRJoe Rogan12:42

       That's on the menu. How rare is it that you meet a girl somewhere and she wants to come back to your house and kill you?

   26. GFGreg Fitzsimmons12:47

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan12:47

       Pretty fucking real.

   28. GFGreg Fitzsimmons12:48

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan12:48

       You got Aileen Wuornos, that monster for the Charlize Theron movie?

   30. GFGreg Fitzsimmons12:52

       Oh, yeah.
7. 14:25 – 21:05

   Robert Kraft, stigma, and what a regulated brothel looks like (Bunny Ranch tour)

   1. JRJoe Rogan14:25

      Yes. Yes, it should be your option. The problem is we equate prostitution with two things that are horrible; sexual abuse and sex slavery, sex trafficking. We, we, we equate prostitution with those things. That's why like when Robert Kraft got busted-

   2. GFGreg Fitzsimmons14:40

      Mm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan14:40

      ... one of the first things they said is, "This guy's a billionaire and he was participating in sex trafficking."

   4. GFGreg Fitzsimmons14:45

      Mm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan14:45

      That's what they accused him of. But then they had to drop that. I don't know if you know that.

   6. GFGreg Fitzsimmons14:49

      No.

   7. JRJoe Rogan14:49

      So there was no sex trafficking there. There was prostitutes. There was women who wanted to have sex for money. And he wanted-

   8. GFGreg Fitzsimmons14:56

      Oh, so they weren't-

   9. JRJoe Rogan14:57

      They want... No.

   10. GFGreg Fitzsimmons14:57

       They didn't come over in a seal tanker and slept in the...

   11. JRJoe Rogan14:59

       No. No, no, they were prostitutes.

   12. GFGreg Fitzsimmons15:01

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:02

       You know? And it's their, their choice. And they ... you don't hear much about that. The s- the sex trafficking was like a big thing to, I think, to get him to plead guilty, and they put it out there and they, they said, you know, they were shaming him and making it this big deal. This guy had paid to get his dick touched.

   14. GFGreg Fitzsimmons15:20

       Mm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:20

       You know, and here he is. What is he like 78 years old?

   16. GFGreg Fitzsimmons15:23

       Mm-hmm.

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:23

       80 years old or something like that? This old guy just wanted to get his dick touched. He paid. It was a deal's a deal. She probably did it 13 times that day before him, you know?

   18. GFGreg Fitzsimmons15:33

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:33

       I mean that's what they were doing in that place. They were jerking guys off. But people kept coming back. Why'd they keep coming back? 'Cause they hated it? Why'd they keep coming back? 'Cause it was a rip-off? Why'd they keep coming back? No, because as adults, they wanted to get their dick touched and this woman was willing to do that. And she ... Yeah. Is that a bad job? It's a fucking terrible job. So is Wendy's. So is being a dishwasher. Those are terrible jobs too. Do you wanna, do you wanna be the guy who puts the coal, the, the fucking tar on the streets in the hot day?

   20. GFGreg Fitzsimmons16:00

       (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:01

       Do you wanna be that guy?

   22. GFGreg Fitzsimmons16:01

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:02

       The fuck outta here. That job sucks. Do you wanna be a guy who works in a, a gas station where you're constantly sniffing fumes? Fuck that. That job sucks. A lot of jobs suck.

   24. GFGreg Fitzsimmons16:11

       Right.

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:11

       But it's your choice. It's your choice as a human being to take that job or not take that job.

   26. GFGreg Fitzsimmons16:16

       Right.

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:16

       I f- feel the same way about prostitution that I s- feel about massage. It's like, if you can pay someone to touch your feet and rub your feet, you can pay a dude to just be rubbing your feet. Why can't you pay someone to touch you?

   28. GFGreg Fitzsimmons16:29

       (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:29

       Why can't you pay someone-

   30. GFGreg Fitzsimmons16:30

       Well, and they-
8. 21:05 – 33:35

   Sex, purpose, and libertarian tension: leaving people alone vs engineering solutions

   1. JRJoe Rogan21:05

      Yeah. I don't... I think we have crazy attitudes for finite beings. We have this crazy attitude like we're leaving this permanent, w- like, ledger of all the moral and immoral things we've done, especially when it comes to sex.

   2. GFGreg Fitzsimmons21:21

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan21:21

      It's like, "It's just sex, you fucks."

   4. GFGreg Fitzsimmons21:23

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan21:23

      "It's great. Everybody wants it." But everybody doesn't get it. And every... Sometimes people get rejected, so it carries all this weight, and so it's just like b-... And then you're not supposed to do it because God doesn't want you to, or you could get pregnant. "Jesus Christ, are you pro-life or are you pro-abortion? Are you pro-woman's right to choose? You didn't even... You shouldn't even have a say, you have a fucking penis." And like, "Whoa, this is so charged."

   6. GFGreg Fitzsimmons21:44

      Yeah. Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan21:44

      It's so charged.

   8. GFGreg Fitzsimmons21:45

      Right, right.

   9. JRJoe Rogan21:45

      And meanwhile, biologically, your brain is going, "No, no, no, we gotta fuck, okay? I got loads building up, I gotta get rid of these things."

   10. GFGreg Fitzsimmons21:52

       Mm-hmm.

   11. JRJoe Rogan21:53

       You know, like, I used to have a bit called "jerk off first, then think about it." It was like my advice for everything because there's so many moments in life where you jerk off first and then you go, "What? What was I gonna do with this?"

   12. GFGreg Fitzsimmons22:03

       (laughs) Right, right. Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan22:03

       "I am not calling her. I'm definitely not responding to that crazy fucking letter she sent me in the mail."

   14. GFGreg Fitzsimmons22:09

       Yeah, yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan22:09

       You know, when you get a letter from somebody, like, "Oh, no."

   16. GFGreg Fitzsimmons22:12

       It's like sobering up.

   17. JRJoe Rogan22:13

       Yeah. Jerk off first.

   18. GFGreg Fitzsimmons22:15

       Jerk.

   19. JRJoe Rogan22:15

       Jerk off first and know your real intentions. If you jerk off first and you still wanna call someone, you really care about them, you love them.

   20. GFGreg Fitzsimmons22:21

       That's right.

   21. JRJoe Rogan22:21

       It's not just lust.

   22. GFGreg Fitzsimmons22:22

       Yeah. That's, uh, that's empty bag thinking.

   23. JRJoe Rogan22:24

       Yeah.

   24. GFGreg Fitzsimmons22:25

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan22:25

       Yeah.

   26. GFGreg Fitzsimmons22:26

       I, I was never good at that. Like, uh, I'm, I've, I reset the clock. One... Nowadays, I pop-

   27. JRJoe Rogan22:34

       (coughs) Yeah.

   28. GFGreg Fitzsimmons22:34

       ... give me 24 hours to leave me alone.

   29. JRJoe Rogan22:36

       A whole 24.

   30. GFGreg Fitzsimmons22:37

       I need 24 hours.
9. 33:35 – 36:08

   Plastic pollution fixes and the Elon Musk/Tesla overextension debate

   1. JRJoe Rogan33:35

      (coughs) Yeah, man. We had, I had a guy, Boyan Slat, on the podcast. He's this really young genius who, uh, is in the middle of devising and implementing a way to gather up the plastic. He's got, like, this big machine that operates-

   2. GFGreg Fitzsimmons33:47

      Oh, I saw. It's got a big arm on it.

   3. JRJoe Rogan33:49

      Yeah. It's like ... Yeah. It's like got a, like a net.

   4. GFGreg Fitzsimmons33:51

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan33:51

      It's like capturing ... I'm, I'm really breaking it down, m- much, uh, like I'm paraphrasing in a shitty way. But his machine is just gonna scoop plastic up and they think they could actually reuse that plastic and make things out of it.

   6. GFGreg Fitzsimmons34:04

      Yeah. I saw that. I think they, I think they ran into some technical problems with it-

   7. JRJoe Rogan34:08

      Yeah.

   8. GFGreg Fitzsimmons34:08

      ... when they just used it.

   9. JRJoe Rogan34:09

      Yeah, I think the, when they tried it out right away, it didn't work that good.

   10. GFGreg Fitzsimmons34:12

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan34:13

       But he kinda figured that. He was like, "Well, there's gonna be a bunch of improvements." It's like everything else.

   12. GFGreg Fitzsimmons34:18

       Right.

   13. JRJoe Rogan34:18

       Every ... I mean, go buy an early Tesla. They were, they were terrible, you know?

   14. GFGreg Fitzsimmons34:23

       Dude, it may be over. Tesla may, may not last.

   15. JRJoe Rogan34:26

       Really?

   16. GFGreg Fitzsimmons34:26

       Yeah, they're saying that-

   17. JRJoe Rogan34:28

       Who says?

   18. GFGreg Fitzsimmons34:28

       Well, the problem is is they, they call it, uh, entrepreneurial shiny object syndrome. That's what Elon Musk has, is like he can't stop. He has to keep ... You know, there was SpaceX, which is fucking phenomenal-

   19. JRJoe Rogan34:41

       Right.

   20. GFGreg Fitzsimmons34:42

       ... what that program has done. They are, they are delivering, uh, stuff to space for a tenth of the price of NASA. They have cut costs ridiculously. NASA was so fucking bloated.

   21. JRJoe Rogan34:55

       Mm.

   22. GFGreg Fitzsimmons34:55

       And, and which was great, but now it's like he wants to put a fucking tunnel under LA, and he wants these charging stations all around the country that are gonna be solar-powered, that are gonna be expensive. He's just over-extended himself, and now Wall Street used to love him, and now they're not buying it anymore, and it could be the end of the c- uh, company.

   23. JRJoe Rogan35:15

       (smacks lips) How would it be the end of the company? How does that work?

   24. GFGreg Fitzsimmons35:17

       Well, they're, the, um, they need to be producing like a million cars a year to be cost-effective for their, um, assembly lines.

   25. JRJoe Rogan35:24

       Really?

   26. GFGreg Fitzsimmons35:24

       For what it costs for their assembly lines. And they're putting out a few hundred thousand a year.

   27. JRJoe Rogan35:28

       Oh, wow.

   28. GFGreg Fitzsimmons35:29

       And they need to, they need to up production to that point, and they don't think they can do it.

   29. JRJoe Rogan35:34

       Exhales ] Exhales ]

   30. GFGreg Fitzsimmons35:35

       I shouldn't say that, or I'm gonna fucking tank the stock.
10. 36:08 – 54:29

    Prius vs Mustang: midlife desire, TRT jokes, and the realities of going bald

    1. GFGreg Fitzsimmons36:08

       My friend just bought a, I think it's a Mitsubishi, and it's, um, it's a hybrid. But how it works is it goes all electric until you run out of the electric charge, and then it ha- then the motor kicks in-

    2. JRJoe Rogan36:19

       Mm-hmm.

    3. GFGreg Fitzsimmons36:19

       ... as opposed to the, like my, my Prius, which is just alternating back and forth all the time.

    4. JRJoe Rogan36:24

       Right. The Prius gets ridiculous gas miles though, right?

    5. GFGreg Fitzsimmons36:26

       It's amazing.

    6. JRJoe Rogan36:27

       What do you, what do you get?

    7. GFGreg Fitzsimmons36:28

       Probably 50.

    8. JRJoe Rogan36:29

       Wow. That's hilarious. Looks like dog shit though.

    9. GFGreg Fitzsimmons36:33

       I hate it. (laughs)

    10. JRJoe Rogan36:34

        Why do you, why do you deal with it? Why do you do that to yourself? You and I have had this conversation-

    11. GFGreg Fitzsimmons36:40

        I know.

    12. JRJoe Rogan36:40

        ... a million times-

    13. GFGreg Fitzsimmons36:41

        I know.

    14. JRJoe Rogan36:41

        ... where I'm like, "Greg, get a muscle car."

    15. GFGreg Fitzsimmons36:42

        I want a Mustang.

    16. JRJoe Rogan36:44

        I'm like, "I want one."

    17. GFGreg Fitzsimmons36:44

        That's all I want.

    18. JRJoe Rogan36:44

        I want one. The new ones are amazing. And matter of fact, they have a new Bullitt Mustang.

    19. GFGreg Fitzsimmons36:48

        No, they don't.

    20. JRJoe Rogan36:49

        They, yes, they do. Yes, they do. Yes, they do. They have a Bullitt model.

    21. GFGreg Fitzsimmons36:51

        Wow.

    22. JRJoe Rogan36:52

        Brand new (2019) , green, emerald green, dope-ass fucking Mustang.

    23. GFGreg Fitzsimmons36:58

        Exhales ] Exhales ]

    24. JRJoe Rogan36:58

        With a, I think it's more than 460 horsepower.... it's a very fast.

    25. GFGreg Fitzsimmons37:05

        Damn.

    26. JRJoe Rogan37:05

        It's an up-tuned version of the one that's in the GT. So it's the Coyote Generation 3 Mustang engine.

    27. GFGreg Fitzsimmons37:12

        Yeah.

    28. JRJoe Rogan37:12

        Look at that. That's it, baby.

    29. GFGreg Fitzsimmons37:14

        Oh, my God. That's beautiful.

    30. JRJoe Rogan37:15

        Yeah. See, it even says Bullitt on the back. See the ba- the back badge? That's a Bullitt Mustang. That's the, uh-
11. 54:29 – 1:00:12

    Torture experiments, waterboarding stories, and dangerous late-night driving

    1. GFGreg Fitzsimmons54:29

       Dude, I had Ari Shaffir on my podcast one time and, uh ... We were at ... You ever, you ever do a podcast in the ... Above The Comedy Cellar? They've got a studio up there.

    2. JRJoe Rogan54:37

       No, I haven't.

    3. GFGreg Fitzsimmons54:38

       Bobby Kelly started it. And it's, uh-

    4. JRJoe Rogan54:40

       Ah, nice.

    5. GFGreg Fitzsimmons54:40

       I forget what it's called. And, um ... So I'm up there doing my podcast with Ari and it's an apartment. It's like there's a, there's a bedroom and a bathroom and then the studio. And we got to talking about torture. And I go, "Uh ..." I go, "You ever been waterboarded?"

    6. JRJoe Rogan54:57

       (coughs)

    7. GFGreg Fitzsimmons54:57

       He's like, "No." I go, "This is a bathroom right here." I go, "You wanna ... You want me to waterboard you?"

    8. JRJoe Rogan55:02

       (laughs)

    9. GFGreg Fitzsimmons55:02

       And you know Ari, he's like, "Yep."

    10. JRJoe Rogan55:04

        "Sure."

    11. GFGreg Fitzsimmons55:04

        "Yeah."

    12. JRJoe Rogan55:04

        "Let's do it."

    13. GFGreg Fitzsimmons55:05

        "Sure. Let's do it." So we go inside and I put a towel over his face and he leans over backwards and his head is below his body in the shower-

    14. JRJoe Rogan55:12

        Mm-hmm.

    15. GFGreg Fitzsimmons55:12

        ... stall. The nozzle comes off the wall and I spray down his face.... and, uh, nothing, nothing, nothing. And then all of a sudden, his body's convulsing. His legs are kicking, he's fucking screaming. Water is shooting out of his nose. He's choking I- and it went on for, like, a couple minutes and I'm fucking dying.

    16. JRJoe Rogan55:31

        (laughs)

    17. GFGreg Fitzsimmons55:31

        And then he starts laughing and we were just on the podcast laughing without saying a word for probably five minutes. And then he goes, "Want me to do it to you?" I'm like, "Fuck yeah." (laughs)

    18. JRJoe Rogan55:43

        (laughs) (clapping)

    19. GFGreg Fitzsimmons55:44

        And then he waterboarded me and the same thing happened.

    20. JRJoe Rogan55:47

        Wow.

    21. GFGreg Fitzsimmons55:48

        Yeah.

    22. JRJoe Rogan55:48

        W- waterboarding's legit.

    23. GFGreg Fitzsimmons55:50

        Yeah.

    24. JRJoe Rogan55:51

        Yeah.

    25. GFGreg Fitzsimmons55:52

        Yeah, you can't-

    26. JRJoe Rogan55:53

        That's, uh, that's real torture.

    27. GFGreg Fitzsimmons55:54

        Yeah.

    28. JRJoe Rogan55:55

        But it's weird torture, 'cause you're not permanently injuring someone. Like, when you think of torture, you think of, like, someone cutting someone-

    29. GFGreg Fitzsimmons56:02

        Yeah.

    30. JRJoe Rogan56:03

        ... or lighting them on fire, shit like that.
12. 1:00:12 – 1:04:32

    Stephen King adaptations, Kubrick’s symbolism, and Joe’s rant on modern art museums

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:12

       I didn't see the new Pet Sematary. I heard it was, uh, eh. I heard it was eh.

    2. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:00:16

       Is that based on the Stephen King book?

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:18

       Yeah. The book is great.

    4. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:00:19

       Yeah.

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:20

       The movie, the first movie was all right. It was all right. They're fun. They're, they're campy. The difference between his books and his movies, though, are so profound.

    6. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:00:28

       Yeah.

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:29

       His books are terrifying. His books, like, get to the, the heart of the, the worst aspects of human nature and-

    8. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:00:35

       Right.

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:35

       ... demonic possession. (sniffs) And the, uh, Maximum Overdrive would be a great one to remake now. Yeah, right? Where they have the fucking robots or any- Yeah.

    10. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:00:42

        ... machine takes over and kills everyone.

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:43

        Yeah.

    12. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:00:44

        It would be a great one.

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:44

        No shit, right?

    14. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:00:45

        Yeah.

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:45

        Yeah, they have it, like, with modern electric trucks and shit. Yeah. (laughs)

    16. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:00:49

        The Shining was the only one that was as scary as the book.

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:52

        Well, it was different, very different than the book. The, The Shining-

    18. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:00:55

        Oh, was it?

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:56

        Yeah, I read the book. The, The Shining the movie with, uh, Jack Nicholson apparently bothered Stephen King because Jack Nicholson was, like, on edge from the beginning of the movie, like, he was always crazy.

    20. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:01:06

        Mm-hmm.

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:01:06

        Like, he was always, like, you know, he's always just kind of barely fucking hanging on.

    22. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:01:11

        Yeah.

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:12

        You know, that was his whole thing.

    24. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:01:13

        Right.

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:13

        And in the book, the guy clearly becomes mad.

    26. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:01:17

        Right.

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:18

        He becomes possessed. He's a normal guy who's just struggling, he's trying to be a writer and he l- uses this as an opportunity to write. And then the house takes him over.

    28. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:01:25

        Right.

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:25

        It's more sinister.

    30. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:01:26

        More of an arc.
13. 1:04:32 – 1:16:53

    Dinosaur skeletons, T‑Rex biomechanics, and why kids obsess over deep time

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:04:32

       You know what's interesting to me? People that buy dinosaur skeletons. Apparently, there's a giant market for them in China. They'll spend, like, a million dollars and buy a dinosaur skeleton. You walk in this motherfucker's house. Fuck your artwork, bitch.

    2. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:04:46

       That's pretty badass.

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:04:48

       I got a goddamn T-Rex in my living room.

    4. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:04:49

       I like that.

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:04:50

       Can you imagine?

    6. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:04:51

       Yeah.

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:04:51

       You walk into some, some guy's palace, some emerald palace, and you open these two fucking teak wood doors, and you see a dinosaur in the middle of his front entrance. That's what they're going for, so they're buying these things. There's-

    8. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:05:05

       There's nothing-

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:05:06

       "Nicolas Cage Returns Stolen Mongolian Dinosaur Skull He Bought at Gallery."

    10. NANarrator1:05:10

        (laughs)

    11. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:05:12

        (laughs)

    12. JRJoe Rogan1:05:12

        Tyrannosaurus ... What is that m- animal? Tyrannosaurus Bataar. Have you heard of that?

    13. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:05:16

        No.

    14. JRJoe Rogan1:05:16

        B-A-T-A-A-R. Will s- ... It will be repatriated ... Ah, I like that word ... after it was bought by the actor from a Beverly Hills gallery in 2007, a T-Rex skull. Wow. What? He bought it for $276,000.

    15. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:05:32

        That's a pretty good deal.

    16. JRJoe Rogan1:05:33

        Well, it was 2007, I think he said.

    17. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:05:35

        Yeah.

    18. JRJoe Rogan1:05:36

        Shit wasn't worth as much back then, son.

    19. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:05:38

        Fuck, man. Nah, nothing stops you in your tracks, and- and, like-

    20. JRJoe Rogan1:05:41

        (coughs)

    21. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:05:41

        ... Museum of Natural History has a good fucking dinosaur skeleton.

    22. JRJoe Rogan1:05:44

        Yeah, especially the ones that eat things, like eat meat. I don't want that big-ass, stupid plant-eating brontosaurus. Get that bitch out of my face.

    23. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:05:51

        Yeah.

    24. JRJoe Rogan1:05:51

        What is that?

    25. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:05:52

        (laughs)

    26. JRJoe Rogan1:05:52

        That's a weird elephant.

    27. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:05:53

        He's a fucking vegan. Who wants to hang out with a vegan?

    28. JRJoe Rogan1:05:55

        Get him out of here.

    29. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:05:56

        (laughs)

    30. JRJoe Rogan1:05:56

        I'm not scared. I want to see teeth.

Episode duration: 2:33:47