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Joe Rogan Experience #1312 - Ms Pat

Ms. Pat is a comedian, actress, and author. Her new podcast "The Patdown" is available now on Apple Podcasts and Google Podcasts. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtNp0kiH1jlsfIRF-yDv3gg

Joe RoganhostMs. Patguest
Jul 12, 20191h 39mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Ms. Pat Turns Trauma Into Hysterical, Unfiltered Comedy and Healing

  1. Joe Rogan and comedian Ms. Pat have a wildly candid, often shocking conversation that mixes extreme childhood trauma, family dysfunction, and poverty with relentless, high-powered humor.
  2. Ms. Pat describes growing up in the Atlanta projects, abuse, teen motherhood, crime, addiction in her family, and how she now raises multiple relatives’ children while building a comedy and podcasting career.
  3. They discuss race, abortion, healthcare, sexuality, parenting, church culture, body image, and relationships, with Ms. Pat constantly reframing deeply painful experiences into jokes.
  4. Underneath the laughs, the episode is about survival, forgiveness, self-determination, and how comedy became Ms. Pat’s therapy and a way to give her kids the stability she never had.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Trauma can be transformed into power through ownership and humor.

Ms. Pat repeatedly says that once you can laugh at what you’ve been through, you have control over it; telling her stories on stage and in her book turned shame into agency.

Forgiveness can free the victim more than any apology ever will.

After failing to get an apology from her abusive ex, she chose to forgive him (and her mother and abuser) for her own peace, instead of chasing closure from people who would never give it.

A stable home and unconditional care can radically change kids’ trajectories.

By taking in and legally adopting her niece’s four children from a crack environment, refusing to give them back, and pushing for structure and education, she’s breaking a generational cycle.

Economic realities and healthcare access heavily dictate life choices.

She stays in Indianapolis solely for her husband’s good health insurance, and openly credits that stability as the only reason she hasn’t moved back to Atlanta despite hating the climate and culture there.

Cultural narratives about race and sexuality can be unlearned through experience.

Raised to fear and resent white people and to see being gay as “wrong,” she reversed both views when she moved into white neighborhoods and when her daughter came out, choosing love and reality over inherited prejudice.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

When you can laugh about what you’ve been through, then you got control of it.

— Ms. Pat

I can’t save the world. I try to save one at a time, and that’s all I can do.

— Ms. Pat

It’s not about how you start, it’s about how you finish.

— Ms. Pat

My whole life I thought white people were better than me. Then I moved and realized, we all the same; my mama was stupid.

— Ms. Pat

You took a terrible beginning and turned it into an amazing present.

— Joe Rogan

Ms. Pat’s upbringing: poverty, abuse, teen pregnancy, crime, and survivalRaising her nieces’ and relatives’ children amid addiction and incarcerationRace, culture shock, and moving from inner-city Atlanta to white suburbs/IndianapolisAbortion, reproductive rights, and personal experience with difficult choicesComedy, podcasting (“The Pat Down”), and turning trauma into materialBody image, health, weight loss, menopause, and plastic surgeryReligion, Black church culture, homophobia, and prosperity pastors

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