Joe Rogan Experience #1313 - Duncan Trussell

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (meditative chanting) Episode 1313, ladies…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (meditative chanting) Episode 1313, ladies and gentlemen. That's a, that's a number. It's a very important number.

   2. DTDuncan Trussell0:23

      Very important.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:24

      Tell me why.

   4. DTDuncan Trussell0:25

      Why 1313 is important?

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:27

      Yes.

   6. DTDuncan Trussell0:27

      Well, we got two 13s back-to-back, so it doubles the normal potency of 13, which is already a mystical number, which terrifies people in the West.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:40

      Mm-hmm.

   8. DTDuncan Trussell0:40

      They think it's unlucky, but in Tibetan Buddhism, it's considered a very lucky and auspicious number.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:46

      Yeah, I was staying in a hotel in Vegas. They have no 13th floor and I don't think they had a fourth floor either.

   10. DTDuncan Trussell0:54

       A fourth?

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       Yeah, there's something about some cultures, the number four is unlucky.

   12. DTDuncan Trussell1:00

       How many cultures do we get to influence our buildings these days?

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:03

       Whoa.

   14. DTDuncan Trussell1:03

       That's what's crazy. And what's crazier is, at some point, someone convinced a person, "Listen, can we just not do a 13th floor?" And they listened to him. They're like, "All right, I guess, we'll just go from 12 to 14."

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:17

       Um, Shooter Jennings has it in a song, "When I check into 1410, I know what room I'm really in."

   16. DTDuncan Trussell1:23

       Ooh, that's cool.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:24

       Yeah.

   18. DTDuncan Trussell1:25

       Yeah, well I, you know what? That's what's so funny about it, is because, like, that's the whole problem, isn't it? Is like people wanna pretend they're not on the 13th floor when they fucking know they are-

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:37

       Right.

   20. DTDuncan Trussell1:37

       ... instead of just acknowledging, "This is where I'm at."

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:39

       "No, no, no. We're in the 14, we're 14."

   22. DTDuncan Trussell1:42

       It's 14, call it the 14th floor. Just call it and it'll be that. Dude, I went, when I was, uh, in college, we had to do service for, like, to get the degree. You had to go do, like, s- service overseas. So we went to India, to Dharamsala, and we taught the monks English. And, uh, I was sitting with, like, listening, overhearing a monk in a conversation with someone teaching him English, and the person's trying to explain to him how there isn't a 13th floor in buildings in the West. And the monk was like, "Does it levitate?"

   23. JRJoe Rogan2:14

       (laughs)

   24. DTDuncan Trussell2:14

       Like, "Is it missing?"

   25. JRJoe Rogan2:16

       (laughs)

   26. DTDuncan Trussell2:16

       "How do they do it?" He was genuinely perplexed. It was like a magical thing.

   27. JRJoe Rogan2:21

       Right. Yeah. Well, in a culture that forces its citizens, if they want to run the country, you have to believe in something that, whether you're a Christian or whether you're a b- baptist, or s- Mormon, whatever, whatever you are, there's certain parts of your religion that if you just didn't wanna analyze them, just wanna put them out on paper, and we'll say, "Okay, did this really happen? Did this guy really die and come back to life? Did, uh, is everybody agreeing on this?"

   28. DTDuncan Trussell2:54

       Mm-hmm.

   29. JRJoe Rogan2:55

       Everyone's agreeing that a zombie, a guy became a zombie, and he came back three days later, and we're cool with that. This is a part of the doctrine.

   30. DTDuncan Trussell3:04

       Yeah.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yeah. What was the-…

   1. DTDuncan Trussell15:00

      or gut biome problem.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:02

      Yeah. What was the- the 28 Days Later? Is that it? Yeah.

   3. DTDuncan Trussell15:06

      20... That was it.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:07

      That w- that was the first one where they ran.

   5. DTDuncan Trussell15:08

      Yeah, and that was the scariest-

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:09

      God, that was good.

   7. DTDuncan Trussell15:10

      Fucking awesome. Running zombies-

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:12

      That movie was so good.

   9. DTDuncan Trussell15:13

      So good.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:14

       And 'cause... And it was also shaky, like when-

   11. DTDuncan Trussell15:16

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:16

       ... the zombies were chasing after you, you'd fucking panic because the screen was shaking when it was running at you.

   13. DTDuncan Trussell15:21

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:21

       They were the first, like, berserker zombies.

   15. DTDuncan Trussell15:25

       You know, man, all this gut biome stuff that we're hearing now, like, the- the study... I just read about the study today. Like, they found out that what the gut biome, what you're feeding your- uh, your baby affects their b- Like, there seems to be a correlation between their gut biome and the way they act when they're like five or something. They're, or two years old or something.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:47

       I'm sure, dude.

   17. DTDuncan Trussell15:48

       And the autism link, you know, where they're saying they think autism might be related to, like-

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:52

       Whoa. Who's saying that?

   19. DTDuncan Trussell15:53

       Jamie, would you mind pulling that out before I fucking embarrass myself?

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:55

       There's a guy named Dr. Peter Hotez, and he was on the podcast, and he is a, is an expert in, um, autism and vaccines and diseases in foreign countries, uh, particularly tropical diseases and warm, moist climate diseases.

   21. DTDuncan Trussell16:10

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:10

       And he was talking about how they've got it narrowed down to five environmental factors that happen during the womb that they think possibly contribute to autism.

   23. DTDuncan Trussell16:21

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:22

       But they don't think that it comes from something that happens later.

   25. DTDuncan Trussell16:26

       Huh.

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:27

       This is current science according to him. Obviously I don't know what I'm talking about, like, for sure.

   27. DTDuncan Trussell16:33

       Neither.

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:33

       I'm not a biologist at all. I- I've-

   29. DTDuncan Trussell16:34

       People looking at us are probably like, "How do these scientists not know this?"

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:38

       I should barely be able to say those words in order.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   You know, there's, that's,…

   1. DTDuncan Trussell30:00

      and that life is feeling terror, love? Maybe in different ways than we would understand it, but it's still there.

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:06

      You know, there's, that's, uh, really under consideration by legitimate scientists. In fact, um, Sam Harris's wife just wrote a book about that.

   3. DTDuncan Trussell30:13

      Oh, really?

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:14

      It's one of the subjects of the... It's called Conscious. And... Conscious or Consciousness. Sorry. I don't remember which. I haven't read it yet, but I heard them talk about it on his podcast. And the concept that used to be, like, super woo-woo was what if everything has consciousness?

   5. DTDuncan Trussell30:29

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:29

      What if everything ha- But it just- (clears throat) It can't move, it can't express itself, can't change its environment. It's limited.

   7. DTDuncan Trussell30:36

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:36

      Just like we can't fly and we can't swim underwater and breathe water. Like, we c- we're limited in our physical abilities.

   9. DTDuncan Trussell30:41

      Right.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:42

       But we assume that whatever limitations that we have, like, this is where it ends, this is where the buck stops here.

   11. DTDuncan Trussell30:46

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:46

       Like, everything that doesn't move has gotta be stupid.

   13. DTDuncan Trussell30:48

       That's it, yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:48

       But it might not be, which is one of the reasons why nobody wants to buy a house after someone's been killed in it.

   15. DTDuncan Trussell30:53

       Right?

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:53

       Right? Like, what if that house retains memory? That was something that Rupert Sheldrake proposed a long time ago. You know, he's got that (smacks lips) what is that s- very strange theory where everything is connec- morphic revo- resonance, I think it's called?

   17. DTDuncan Trussell31:05

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan31:05

       Theory of Morphic Resonance. He's a fascinating guy. And he's, like, a guy who's not afraid to take some chances and, and say some really woo-woo shit.

   19. DTDuncan Trussell31:13

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan31:13

       And I think he's a Christian as well.

   21. DTDuncan Trussell31:16

       Yeah, I love his book. I think you're the one who, like, was telling me some of the studies are not so great in it, though.

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:22

       Well, it wasn't that I said that, it's that other people had complained about that.

   23. DTDuncan Trussell31:25

       Oh, right, yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:25

       And they, they com- because there's some th- there's some studies that apparently people lean on that aren't super legit, like the dog knowing you're coming home one.

   25. DTDuncan Trussell31:34

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:35

       Like, you gotta replicate that shit, because first of all, the guy might have a loud car. Dogs can hear shit way better than you can.

   27. DTDuncan Trussell31:41

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:41

       Like, how far away is the guy when the dog starts going towards the door? Or does the guy just come home every night and the dog has, like, an internal clock and he knows, "Hey, it's five o'clock. Mike must be coming home."

   29. DTDuncan Trussell31:52

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:52

       Like, if you co- does, have they replicated this of a, for 11:30? What if Mike starts coming home in a Tesla where he can't hear shit?
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Mm-hmm. …

   1. DTDuncan Trussell45:00

      where most people hang out and they think that's who they are, is the infinite cycle of repeating thoughts in their head. So-

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:06

      Mm-hmm.

   3. DTDuncan Trussell45:07

      Below that is your senses, and then the one right above that is w- the seventh, and that's what is considered your subconscious in the West. But, um, so that's where all your memories are, that's where all your, uh, like, uh, just all the shit you can't remember that happened to you, that, uh, that, that's stuck back there that appears in people's art or appears in your neurosis or whatever. And then above that is the eighth consciousness, and that's the stored experience of all human beings. And-

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:42

      Whoa.

   5. DTDuncan Trussell45:42

      ... it's happening, it's like the global mind, or it's-

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:45

      Akashic Records?

   7. DTDuncan Trussell45:46

      Yeah. Oh, yeah, the Akashic Records, yeah. And, and so basically that one drips down like a, like water in a cave, it drips down into your subconscious, which drips down into your thoughts. So when you're having these thoughts, according to this model, uh, it's not necessarily your thoughts. You're getting a kind of distillate that's rolling down through the global mind, being flavored by your subconscious, and then being flavored by your identity or who you think you are. And then, so by the time it comes out of you, it's got you wrapped up inside of it.

   8. JRJoe Rogan46:22

      Mm-hmm.

   9. DTDuncan Trussell46:22

      But it's a projection of some like shared mind. It's pretty cool.

   10. JRJoe Rogan46:28

       That makes ac- that makes actual sense.

   11. DTDuncan Trussell46:31

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan46:31

       I know that sounds like crazy voodoo hippie talk, but it actually makes sense-

   13. DTDuncan Trussell46:35

       (laughs) Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan46:36

       ... that we all know that there's something that we share. There's so- and we, we all feed off of each other. I mean, you and I have said this many times, that I am a different person with you.

   15. DTDuncan Trussell46:47

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan46:47

       Like, we're different together. And we're different with other people as well. I mean, that's how human beings are. When we, when we interact with each other, we have this b- a bonding thing. There's a, a, a, there's a, an interaction thing.

   17. DTDuncan Trussell46:59

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan46:59

       And that's why some people are toxic for you. I mean, the idea that you're supposed to stay with everyone-

   19. DTDuncan Trussell47:04

       Mm-hmm.

   20. JRJoe Rogan47:04

       ... is like crazy. Like some people are just not good for you, it's not a good mix. You know, you're not good for them, they're not good for you, get out.

   21. DTDuncan Trussell47:10

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan47:11

       But the, there's something that's going on, it's not you just as an individual. And then when we were talking about gut biome and, uh, and that as well.

   23. DTDuncan Trussell47:19

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan47:19

       I mean, you're, you're, you're also sharing y- gut biome with each other, you're sharing DNA with each other.

   25. DTDuncan Trussell47:25

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan47:25

       You're sharing skin, there's, there's little organisms living on your body. When you hug people with no shirt on, you're sharing organisms.

   27. DTDuncan Trussell47:34

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan47:34

       It's one of the reasons why it feels good, I bet.

   29. DTDuncan Trussell47:36

       Yeah. Yeah, man.

   30. JRJoe Rogan47:37

       You know? I mean, it's probably a great way to swap organisms to keep them spreading.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:13:06

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      dead hawk... So I think that one of them was, like, the dominant hawk, and he died, and then other ones just started moving into the area. Like, they were flying around my chicken coop, and, like, little juvenile hawks-

   2. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:10

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:10

      ... who were kind of assholes, almost like teenagers.

   4. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:12

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:12

      I was like, "What the fuck is going on here?" And then I'd find one of them with his head missing.

   6. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:16

      Jesus Christ.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:17

      Like, so, like, some other hawk killed it and ripped its fucking head off, and a bigger hawk left it in my yard, dead with no head. I was-

   8. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:25

      Like a message.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:26

      ... and I was trying to figure out, "What the fuck eats something's head?" But apparently, that's something that a ha- a hawk will do to, they'll do to each other.

   10. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:33

       So it's like the equivalent of, like, the Mad Max putting your enemy's head on a spike in front of your area?

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:38

       Yes. You, you claim you own, like, all his friends get to see his headless body when you shit on it when you fly over. (imitates hawk flying and hitting Joe)

   12. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:46

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:46

       Find out if that's true. That might be a lie. Do hawk- (laughs)

   14. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:50

       Have you... Who cares?

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:50

       Do hawks...

   16. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:50

       It's true.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:50

       But I wanna find out if hawks, 'cause I be- I'm almost, we're very high right now, ladies and gentlemen.

   18. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:55

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:55

       But I'm pretty sure that I read that when I found the headless bird in my yard.

   20. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:00

       Have you seen the Tibetan sky burial shit?

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:01:02

       Yes.

   22. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:03

       Yeah, that stuff's cool, man. That's-

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:04

       That's crazy.

   24. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:05

       Yeah, it's amazing.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:06

       Tell people what it is.

   26. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:07

       Uh, that's when you, um-... basically, instead of cremation, your friends hack your body up into pieces and take it to where there are vultures. Buzzards? I'm not sure which.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:20

       Vultures. I think they're vultures.

   28. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:21

       Vultures scatter your body, they descend on it, they eat it, and all that's left is bones.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:27

       They even smash the head so that the vultures can get inside the head.

   30. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:29

       Get your brain, all your memories.

Episode duration: 2:54:52