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Joe Rogan Experience #1314 - Charlamagne tha God & Andrew Schulz

Charlamagne tha God is a radio presenter, television personality, and author. Andrew Schulz is a stand up comedian known for his work on Guy Code. Check out their podcast called "The Brilliant Idiots" available on Apple Podcasts & YouTube.

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Jun 20, 20193h 1mWatch on YouTube ↗

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Partial transcript

0:00 – 0:01

Intro

Charlamagne tha God 0:00 ... videos. (gasps)

0:01 – 1:55

Radio’s last superstars and why podcasts are the new center

Joe Rogan 0:01 Boom, and we're live. Uh, ladies and gentlemen, Charlamagne, the God. My man, Andrew Schulz-

Charlamagne tha God 0:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:06 Thanks for being here. Thanks for-

Charlamagne tha God 0:07 Joe Rogan.

Joe Rogan 0:07 ... setting this up.

Andrew Schulz 0:08 Thank you for having me, sir.

Charlamagne tha God 0:09 Pleasure.

Andrew Schulz 0:09 Thanks, guys.

Joe Rogan 0:09 My pleasure. I've been a fan of yours for a while. You, I think you're the last great radio host, and you will be the last famous radio host because I think radio is-

Charlamagne tha God 0:17 Yeah, don't.

Joe Rogan 0:17 ... a dying thing. You're the last great one. You're the, you're the one who made it famous from radio. Who the fuck else?

Andrew Schulz 0:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:23 In this era?

Charlamagne tha God 0:25 I mean, I, yeah, I think radio is, like, one of those, uh, one of those rare lanes where it's really not a lot of people who prosper in it.

Joe Rogan 0:32 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 0:33 You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 0:33 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 0:33 Like, if you think about it, especially in, in the Black radio space. I mean, you've got the Tom Joiners, the Doug Banks, the Wendy Williams-

Joe Rogan 0:40 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 0:41 You know, so it's, it's rare in that lane, but I think, I think you've got people that have, have established good careers in radio, though.

Joe Rogan 0:45 Yeah, but in the past.

Andrew Schulz 0:46 Oh, but that's a great question.

Joe Rogan 0:47 But in the past.

Andrew Schulz 0:47 Who is the last one?

Joe Rogan 0:48 He's the last one. That's the Last Samurai.

Andrew Schulz 0:49 You're the last person to become-

Charlamagne tha God 0:51 Ah, I think-

Andrew Schulz 0:51 ... famous from radio.

Charlamagne tha God 0:53 Nah.

Joe Rogan 0:53 100%. Last Samurai, 100%.

Charlamagne tha God 0:54 I gotta give-

Andrew Schulz 0:54 Yeah!

Charlamagne tha God 0:55 I gotta give Bobby Bones. Bobby Bones.

Joe Rogan 0:56 Well, that's nice. I don't know who that is. (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 1:01 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 1:01 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01 It's, it's true.

Andrew Schulz 1:01 Shots fired!

Joe Rogan 1:02 I know-

Andrew Schulz 1:02 Shots fired!

Joe Rogan 1:03 I know who you are. Sorry, Bobby. No disrespect.

Charlamagne tha God 1:05 No, Bobby's my guy. He, he-

Joe Rogan 1:05 No disrespect. I'm sure he's great.

Charlamagne tha God 1:07 He's a nationally syndicated radio host for the... But he's on the country stage. He just won Amer- he won, uh, Dance with the Stars.

Joe Rogan 1:11 Oh, okay.

Charlamagne tha God 1:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:13 I'm out of the loop.

Charlamagne tha God 1:13 Joe's like, "I don't give a shit."

Joe Rogan 1:14 I'm out of the loop with Dance with the Stars.

Andrew Schulz 1:15 I know... I, I, I only know Bobby V as you talk about him.

Charlamagne tha God 1:17 Really?

Andrew Schulz 1:17 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 1:18 Yeah, he's got two national, New York Times best-selling books. He's a... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:21 That's one of those things, though. It's like comedians. Like, you know, you just talk about a comic that everybody loves, and people are like, "I never heard of him."

Andrew Schulz 1:27 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:27 Like, amongst comics, super respected.

Charlamagne tha God 1:30 He's the guy.

Joe Rogan 1:30 Yeah, yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 1:30 Bobby host, he host on Idol now.

Joe Rogan 1:32 Oh, okay.

Charlamagne tha God 1:32 Yeah, and we're around the same age, so I would have to give it... I would have to put him in that niche.

Andrew Schulz 1:36 Fine.

Joe Rogan 1:36 Well, you and Bobby, you're a gracious man.

Charlamagne tha God 1:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:38 In my opinion, you're the Last Samurai.

Andrew Schulz 1:40 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 1:41 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:41 Because it's true.

Andrew Schulz 1:41 It's a dead era.

Joe Rogan 1:42 It's true.

Andrew Schulz 1:43 I, I see guys like you. I just wanna snatch you up and bring you over to podcasts. Like, "Get the fuck out of there. Get out of that censored boss man world."

Charlamagne tha God 1:50 You know-

Joe Rogan 1:50 That-

Charlamagne tha God 1:50 You know what's interesting? What's the, what's it called?

Andrew Schulz 1:51 Keep going! Keep going on this!

Charlamagne tha God 1:53 Uh... Right?

Joe Rogan 1:53 Right? You guys, I know you guys-

Andrew Schulz 1:53 Keep going!

Joe Rogan 1:54 ... have a podcast together.

1:55 – 2:46

Breakfast Club as a podcast/YouTube brand + the Howard Stern/Sirius paywall problem

Charlamagne tha God 1:55 The brilliant idiots- But, you know we do-

Joe Rogan 1:56 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 1:56 You know Podtrak, right?

Joe Rogan 1:58 Mm-hmm, yeah, sure, sure.

Charlamagne tha God 1:59 You know of that? Like, we just cracked Podtrak, The Breakfast Club. We was number 20 on Podtrak.

Joe Rogan 2:02 Oh, okay, so you put that online as well.

Charlamagne tha God 2:04 Yeah, we put it out as a podcast.

Joe Rogan 2:04 That's a good move.

Charlamagne tha God 2:05 'Cause I feel like, with radio, that's what it is. Like, people still listen to terrestrial radio, but-

Joe Rogan 2:08 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 2:08 ... you have to go where the people are. So, you have-

Joe Rogan 2:10 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 2:10 ... to have the podcast. You have to have the YouTube following. Like, you can't wait for people just to come to radio every day.

Andrew Schulz 2:15 I wish, wish you could s- I wish you could swear, though. See, that's the problem with radio.

Charlamagne tha God 2:18 Well, they do. That's the thing. He, so they, they release all the interviews they do on Breakfast Club, and those things explode.

Joe Rogan 2:24 Right on YouTube.

Charlamagne tha God 2:24 And-

Joe Rogan 2:25 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 2:25 ... they have all the curses-

Joe Rogan 2:26 That's where I found out about it.

Charlamagne tha God 2:27 ... and everything like that. Exactly.

Joe Rogan 2:27 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 2:27 I think that's where most people globally-

Joe Rogan 2:29 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 2:30 ... would watch and listen. I mean, right? Yeah, yeah. That's what separates this radio, this era of radio from other eras of radio. Like-

Joe Rogan 2:36 Right.

Charlamagne tha God 2:36 ... Howard Stern didn't have YouTube. You know what I'm saying? If Howard Stern had YouTube, it wouldn't be no question. He'd still be the motherfucking guy. I mean, even though he is the guy.

Joe Rogan 2:43 Right.

Charlamagne tha God 2:44 But he'd still be like, super, super the guy in this era.

2:46 – 3:41

Big money media deals, stock jokes, and nostalgic tech shifts (Blockbuster → Netflix)

Joe Rogan 2:46 Mm-hmm, right. He's in that paywall, which is very strange. That Sirius paywall. That's the strangest paywall.

Charlamagne tha God 2:51 (sighs) Yeah, yeah. He took the check.

Joe Rogan 2:53 He took a big check.

Andrew Schulz 2:53 But then you get financial independence, man.

Joe Rogan 2:55 Well, he's already-

Andrew Schulz 2:56 It's a big check.

Joe Rogan 2:56 Let's be realistic. He was already financially independent.

Andrew Schulz 2:58 So why'd he do it?

Joe Rogan 3:00 And he could (smacks lips) aw, he just, the numbers they're throwing at him.

Charlamagne tha God 3:02 Yeah, that was a different level of number, though.

Joe Rogan 3:03 It was $300 million, right?

Charlamagne tha God 3:05 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:05 Well, I think that was just initially.

Charlamagne tha God 3:06 Yeah, that's the difference.

Joe Rogan 3:07 I mean, I think he makes like $100 million every year or something crazy.

Andrew Schulz 3:09 So, $300 was flat, and then another $100.

Joe Rogan 3:12 I mean, he's been doing it for years.

Charlamagne tha God 3:12 And then he has so much stock. Like, that's the difference between, like, your kids being straight and, like, your great-great-great grandkids being straight.

Andrew Schulz 3:17 Right.

Joe Rogan 3:18 Yeah, but Siri- stock in Sirius to me is like Blockbuster stock.

Charlamagne tha God 3:22 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 3:23 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:23 It's like, hang on to that.

Andrew Schulz 3:26 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 3:26 Blockbuster stock-

Andrew Schulz 3:28 It's like-

Charlamagne tha God 3:28 ... meant something at some point-

Joe Rogan 3:28 Yes!

Charlamagne tha God 3:28 ... until Netflix came the fuck along.

Joe Rogan 3:30 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember when Netflix used to have those DVDs that you would get, like-

Charlamagne tha God 3:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:34 ... in front of the fucking supermarket-

Charlamagne tha God 3:36 The red box.

Joe Rogan 3:37 ... with the box.

Andrew Schulz 3:37 Yeah, the red box shit.

Charlamagne tha God 3:37 Yeah, remember that?

Andrew Schulz 3:37 And you have to send them back.

Charlamagne tha God 3:39 He was like, "Fuck. I'm not sending this back."

Joe Rogan 3:41 (laughs)

3:41 – 5:38

Regional speech, “li-berry,” and why correcting people is usually pointless

Charlamagne tha God 3:41 No, that was, that was so funny. I was home this weekend. Uh, I was in, I was in Moncks Corner, South Carolina. And like, there was a Black Panther DVD from the library in my mom's house. I'm like, "What the fuck?"

Andrew Schulz 3:52 The library?

Charlamagne tha God 3:52 Yes! (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:52 Wait a minute. Black Panther as in the original Black Panthers or-

Charlamagne tha God 3:55 No, the movie that just came out.

Joe Rogan 3:56 Oh! I was like, "Yo, she was true from back in the day."

Charlamagne tha God 4:00 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:00 "Okay, that's an original Black Panther."

Charlamagne tha God 4:03 I'm like, "Who got the Black Panther DVD that they checked out from the library and have not brought it back yet?" You don't even bring it back to the library yet?

Joe Rogan 4:09 Nah, you don't have to.

Charlamagne tha God 4:09 Like-

Andrew Schulz 4:10 What are they really gonna do? They're gonna get mad at you.

Charlamagne tha God 4:11 ... why would you bring the Black Panther from the library?

Joe Rogan 4:14 'Cause you wanted it and it was there, and you were at the library, I guess.

Andrew Schulz 4:16 I'm still trying to understand why you call it li-berry.

Charlamagne tha God 4:19 What is it?

Andrew Schulz 4:19 Library.

Charlamagne tha God 4:20 I don't fucking know. I didn't graduate college.

Joe Rogan 4:22 Li-berry. It's like, uh...

Charlamagne tha God 4:23 Library.

Joe Rogan 4:24 Yeah, it's one of those words, you, you know?

Charlamagne tha God 4:27 It's that-

Andrew Schulz 4:27 Don't bail him out.

Charlamagne tha God 4:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:28 It's like, you know what I'm saying?

Charlamagne tha God 4:29 Li-berry, library.

Joe Rogan 4:30 Like, especially.

Charlamagne tha God 4:31 Library.

Joe Rogan 4:31 You ever talk to people in Texas?

Charlamagne tha God 4:32 Especially.

Joe Rogan 4:32 They say especially.

Andrew Schulz 4:33 Yeah, or X.

Joe Rogan 4:34 But everyone, even like George Bush when he was president, would say especially.

Andrew Schulz 4:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:38 That's a Texas thing.

Charlamagne tha God 4:39 Especially?

Joe Rogan 4:39 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 4:40 Yeah, I think a lot of it has to do with region, because I still say screat, screet, scrong.

Joe Rogan 4:45 Okay.

Charlamagne tha God 4:45 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:48 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 4:48 (laughs) It's just, it's South Carolina. That's how I pronounce it. Screat, screet, scrong.

Joe Rogan 4:51 I get it. I get it. (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 4:53 Scrinth, scrumptious.

Joe Rogan 4:54 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 4:55 I say pu-cif-ically.

Joe Rogan 4:56 Oh, it's pu-cif-ically.

Charlamagne tha God 4:57 Pu-cif-ically.

Joe Rogan 4:57 Right.

Charlamagne tha God 4:57 Instead of specifically.

Joe Rogan 4:59 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 4:59 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 4:59 Pu-cif-ically.

Joe Rogan 4:59 As long as everybody knows, then it's fun.

Charlamagne tha God 5:01 That's the point. If you understand-

Joe Rogan 5:02 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 5:02 ... what a person is saying, why correct them?

Joe Rogan 5:04 Yeah, right. It's a, like-

Charlamagne tha God 5:04 You're just being a dick.

Andrew Schulz 5:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:05 Well, it's, it's like, um, dialects. Like, my grandparents were from Sicily, and they would talk in dialects.

Charlamagne tha God 5:11 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 5:11 And even people that knew Italian wouldn't know what the fuck they were saying.

Andrew Schulz 5:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:14 Like, just, like, people that knew pure Italian. It's some weird, like, pig Latin type shit.

Andrew Schulz 5:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:20 You know?

Andrew Schulz 5:20 I mean, my mom's Scottish. Like, if you listen to real Scottish people talk-

Charlamagne tha God 5:23 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 5:23 ... you don't understand what the fuck they're talking about.

Joe Rogan 5:25 Oh, that, that accent's so-

Andrew Schulz 5:26 Thick.

Joe Rogan 5:26 ... the way they roll their words together.

Andrew Schulz 5:28 Thick.

Joe Rogan 5:29 And then, they get them drunk.

Andrew Schulz 5:30 Oof.

Joe Rogan 5:31 It's impossible.

Andrew Schulz 5:32 Oof.

Charlamagne tha God 5:32 Where are you from, Joe?

Joe Rogan 5:33 I was born in New Jersey.

Charlamagne tha God 5:35 Okay.

Joe Rogan 5:35 And, uh, I grew up mostly in Boston, but most, really all over the country.

5:38 – 8:14

Hunting as an ethical response to factory farming + outdoor fantasies vs reality

Charlamagne tha God 5:38 'Cause you got a lot of southern sensibilities. Like, before we started the podcast, you was talking about all the hunting you, hunting that you do.

Joe Rogan 5:43 I didn't get into that until 2012.

Charlamagne tha God 5:45 Wow.

Andrew Schulz 5:46 Why?

Joe Rogan 5:47 Because I was thinking about being a vegetarian. I was like, I, I was watching these animal rights videos.

Andrew Schulz 5:52 Right.

Joe Rogan 5:52 These PETA videos. And I was like, "I don't want to participate in this factory farming shit." It just, it's fucked up. You watch these pigs slammed into these cages together, and cows and chickens. I was like, "This is inhumane."

Andrew Schulz 6:03 Right.

Charlamagne tha God 6:03 It's insane. But then you decided to go out and start killing them yourself?

Joe Rogan 6:05 I decided one of two things. Either I was gonna, I was gonna try hunting, and either I was gonna become a vegetarian or I was be- going to become a hunter. And so I became a hunter.... I did it, I killed a deer, I ate it. I was like, "This is perfect. I love this."

Charlamagne tha God 6:17 Oh, I'm trying to figure out-

Joe Rogan 6:18 Like, this makes sense.

Charlamagne tha God 6:18 I'm trying to figure out the thought process to that.

Joe Rogan 6:20 It was a thought process. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 6:21 That makes sense.

Charlamagne tha God 6:21 Where you saw that it was inhumane for these-

Joe Rogan 6:23 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 6:24 ... animals to be dying-

Joe Rogan 6:25 No, no, no. Not dying.

Charlamagne tha God 6:25 ... and that made you wanna kill them?

Joe Rogan 6:26 Factory farming.

Andrew Schulz 6:27 Factory farming.

Joe Rogan 6:28 Factory farming. Uh, not that they're... Look, every animal dies.

Andrew Schulz 6:31 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:31 They don't live forever and become angels. They live in the wild.

Andrew Schulz 6:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:34 When you hunt, you dip your feet into the wild. You go out there-

Andrew Schulz 6:38 Yes.

Joe Rogan 6:38 ... and you, you fair chase. You go find them, you track them, you stay downwind, you get in a good position, you kill them, then you eat them.

Andrew Schulz 6:46 Right.

Joe Rogan 6:46 And it's a different animal.

Andrew Schulz 6:47 Gotcha.

Joe Rogan 6:47 Like, when you're, when you're eating that... Like, if I eat a elk steak, I know that I killed that.

Charlamagne tha God 6:52 Elk is good.

Joe Rogan 6:52 It's delicious.

Andrew Schulz 6:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:53 I know that. I was there.

Andrew Schulz 6:54 Can I see a picture of this elk?

Joe Rogan 6:55 It's wild.

Andrew Schulz 6:55 I'm still trying to imagine what it is. Because I understand deer and I understand moose.

Joe Rogan 6:59 It's a giant deer. It's... That, those antlers-

Andrew Schulz 7:02 Apart from the antlers.

Joe Rogan 7:03 ... Picture those antlers on like an 800-pound animal.

Andrew Schulz 7:05 How tall is it?

Joe Rogan 7:06 It's huge. They're big.

Andrew Schulz 7:07 Like six feet?

Joe Rogan 7:08 Oh, taller. Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 7:09 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:11 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 7:11 (laughs) Elk and mushroom tray.

Joe Rogan 7:12 It's big. W- but the moose is crazy.

Andrew Schulz 7:14 Bro. Bro.

Joe Rogan 7:14 I saw... The first time I saw a moose, it was like that scene in Jurassic Park where Jeff Goldblum looks out the Jeep and sees the dinosaur.

Andrew Schulz 7:19 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:19 And it's like... Like, you can't believe how big a moose is.

Charlamagne tha God 7:22 Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen a moose in person. I've seen elks in person.

Joe Rogan 7:24 They're double an elk. They're double the size of an elk.

Andrew Schulz 7:26 Yeah, yeah. We need to go hunting, man.

Joe Rogan 7:28 You wanna go hunting?

Andrew Schulz 7:28 I'm being dead serious about this.

Joe Rogan 7:29 I would love to take you hunting.

Andrew Schulz 7:30 Camping and hunting, where it's one or the other?

Joe Rogan 7:32 Well, you could do both.

Andrew Schulz 7:34 Okay.

Joe Rogan 7:34 Or you would rather do... Well, you could camp or you could hunt, rather, and then stay in a nice lodge. That's the move by a fucking human.

Andrew Schulz 7:40 Yeah, but also, I kinda wanna do like the-

Joe Rogan 7:42 The full outdoor.

Andrew Schulz 7:43 Yeah, 'cause sometimes I watch those shows on like Nat Geo or something like that-

Joe Rogan 7:46 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 7:46 ... and it's they're just living off the land and they gotta like make a hut-

Joe Rogan 7:49 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 7:49 ... or make like a yurt.

Joe Rogan 7:50 It's the best.

Andrew Schulz 7:50 You know?

Joe Rogan 7:51 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 7:51 They make it out of snow.

Joe Rogan 7:52 Yeah, don't do that.

Andrew Schulz 7:53 Don't do that.

Joe Rogan 7:54 No.

Andrew Schulz 7:54 But what for, what if like two days, like a cool...

Joe Rogan 7:57 What you want, what you want is like a real tent with a real sleeping bag-

Andrew Schulz 8:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:00 ... so you stay warm and you're healthy and you're not worried about fucking freezing to death or anything weird like that.

Andrew Schulz 8:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:07 And make sure you have water filters so you can drink out of a stream. If you really wanna do that, it's a-

Andrew Schulz 8:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:12 ... yeah, this would be a-

Andrew Schulz 8:13 I wanna try it.

8:14 – 12:35

City wildlife to Bigfoot: Jersey bears, moose logic, and belief vs evidence

Charlamagne tha God 8:14 I'm surprised. Like, you should try hunting in New York. Like, nobody's ever done that.

Joe Rogan 8:16 You can-

Charlamagne tha God 8:16 Like, go out and hunt the rats.

Andrew Schulz 8:18 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 8:18 I'm ser- I'm serious. (laughs) Think about all them big ass rats in New York.

Joe Rogan 8:22 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 8:22 Like, nobody's ever done that.

Andrew Schulz 8:23 I'm not gonna lie.

Charlamagne tha God 8:24 You'll probably get a lot of attention for that shit.

Andrew Schulz 8:25 Bro, back in the day, you could go to 125th Street in like Spanish Harlem-

Charlamagne tha God 8:28 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 8:28 ... and you could buy pigeons. People were like catching pigeons and they were selling them and trying to front like they were exotic pigeons.

Charlamagne tha God 8:35 Bullshit.

Andrew Schulz 8:35 I swear to God in my life.

Joe Rogan 8:36 Well, you know, pigeons were brought over here for food. That's what squab is.

Charlamagne tha God 8:39 What the fuck is squab?

Joe Rogan 8:40 Squab is like a v-, like a bougie restaurant item, and it's actually young pigeons.

Charlamagne tha God 8:46 Really?

Joe Rogan 8:46 Yeah, that's what, that's what squab is. Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 8:49 I didn't know that.

Joe Rogan 8:50 All pigeons, all the pigeons you see in the United States are all brought in from somewhere else for food and then they release to become feral. They're like the wild hogs of the bird world.

Charlamagne tha God 8:59 What are young rats called that are used for food?

Joe Rogan 9:01 It's a good question. Who uses young rats for food?

Charlamagne tha God 9:03 I have no idea.

Andrew Schulz 9:03 I don't know. But there's a, there's a comic-

Joe Rogan 9:05 Oh, is it that rats documentary?

Andrew Schulz 9:07 No, this is... Well, this is just the dogs that hunt rats in New York.

Joe Rogan 9:09 Oh, yeah, I saw that.

Andrew Schulz 9:10 Oh, right.

9:11 The Rottweilers.

9:11 I don't believe that shit.

Joe Rogan 9:12 What do you mean you don't believe it?

Andrew Schulz 9:13 That they're really guys h- sending their dogs out to go get rats in the city.

Joe Rogan 9:16 Oh, they are. Oh, they do do it.

Andrew Schulz 9:17 But for what? There's so many rats.

Joe Rogan 9:18 'Cause they're assholes.

Andrew Schulz 9:19 Yeah, I guess.

Joe Rogan 9:20 I mean, they're not gonna fix it. There's no way to fix it. But, like, Jack Russell Terriers, they fuck rats up. They're designed to fuck rats up.

Charlamagne tha God 9:26 But it's gotta be people who live up north in New York who have the same desire to hunt. They just don't go down south.

Joe Rogan 9:32 Well, they just... Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 9:32 So why not go hunt the rats?

Joe Rogan 9:33 They hunt deer. They hunt deer. New York has a lot of deer.

Charlamagne tha God 9:35 New Jersey.

Joe Rogan 9:36 Yeah, Jersey has a lot of deer.

Charlamagne tha God 9:36 Jersey got a lot of deer. I live in... That's why I, I live in New Jersey and that's one of the reasons I love Jersey 'cause I'm, I'm from South Carolina, so I'm used to seeing deers and opossums and just-

Joe Rogan 9:44 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 9:44 ... different types of wildlife running through the streets. I, that's why I like living in Jersey.

Joe Rogan 9:48 Yeah. Jersey is an unusual pla... Jersey has more black bears per capita than any state in the United States.

Charlamagne tha God 9:53 I, I don't know if that's a fact, but I believe you 'cause I've seen them myself.

Joe Rogan 9:55 Yeah, they're everywhere.

Andrew Schulz 9:56 You've seen bears on your property?

Charlamagne tha God 9:58 (coughs) Not on my property, but when I used to, uh, stay with my aunt in the Poconos, the bears used to come in her backyard 'cause there was like a stream in the backyard and they would like come in and just grab fish out of the stream.

Joe Rogan 10:08 They killed a kid. One bear killed a kid a couple years ago from one of the colleges. What, what college was it? The one near New Brunswick? What was it?

Andrew Schulz 10:15 It was Rutgers. Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 10:16 Rutgers, yeah. And you never seen the video in Jersey of the walking bear?

Joe Rogan 10:18 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 10:18 The bear that would walk on two feet through people's backyards?

Joe Rogan 10:20 Yeah. It had a bad front paw.

Charlamagne tha God 10:22 Ever saw that?

Andrew Schulz 10:22 No.

Charlamagne tha God 10:23 Hell yeah. That shit happens.

Andrew Schulz 10:25 There it is. Look at it.

Joe Rogan 10:26 Look at the video. It's that bear walking around.

Andrew Schulz 10:29 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:29 Look at that.

Andrew Schulz 10:30 See, that's a... See-

Charlamagne tha God 10:31 Bigfoot.

Andrew Schulz 10:31 ... yeah, that's a... You know who believes in Bigfoot?

Joe Rogan 10:33 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 10:33 You have a believer in the studio right now.

Joe Rogan 10:36 Who? Who believes in Bigfoot? Do you really?

Charlamagne tha God 10:38 Yeah, absolutely.

Joe Rogan 10:39 Oh, okay.

Andrew Schulz 10:39 No, no, 100% believes in Bigfoot.

Charlamagne tha God 10:42 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 10:42 Well, I said... But you know why I believe in Bigfoot? Because of shit like mooses. You know what I'm saying?

Andrew Schulz 10:46 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 10:46 I'm serious. (laughs) I'm like, like... If you see something, if you see a fucking, uh, uh, species like a moose-

Andrew Schulz 10:54 That's right.

Joe Rogan 10:54 ... you're like, "My God."

Andrew Schulz 10:56 Right?

Joe Rogan 10:56 Why would you not believe... Look at that shit.

Andrew Schulz 10:58 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 10:58 At some point in life, somebody was trying to explain that to somebody else and he was like, "Man, get the fuck out of here."

Joe Rogan 11:03 That's true.

Andrew Schulz 11:03 Right now when he's trying to explain it to me.

Joe Rogan 11:05 Lookit the size of that goddamn thing.

Andrew Schulz 11:06 Yeah, that's insane.

Joe Rogan 11:07 Those things are so big.

Andrew Schulz 11:08 And elegant. Look at those legs work.

Joe Rogan 11:10 They'll fuck you up, too. Those are the, those are the rare deer species that will fucking stomp you to death.

Andrew Schulz 11:14 They're aggressive.

Joe Rogan 11:14 Yeah, they're used to dealing with wolves. If they think you're a threat, they just run up on you and stomp you to death.

Charlamagne tha God 11:19 Why don't you believe in Bigfoot?

Joe Rogan 11:21 Well, I actually did a television show where I went hunting for them.

Charlamagne tha God 11:24 You were gonna do it.

Andrew Schulz 11:25 Find, yeah, finding Bigfoot. Which one?

Joe Rogan 11:26 No, no, no. It was... I did a show called Joe Rogan Questions Everything. We spent a whole week in the Pacific Northwest talking to Bigfoot hunters.

Charlamagne tha God 11:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:32 We camped out there. Me and Duncan Trussell went and interviewed-

Andrew Schulz 11:35 Shout out to Duncan.

Joe Rogan 11:35 ... scientists and interviewed all these different, uh, archeologists, all these different people that didn't believe and did believe. It was a real animal at one point in time.

Charlamagne tha God 11:44 Yes, I don't think it exists now. I think it existed. It's just a primate in the fucking woods.

Joe Rogan 11:48 Oh yeah, oh, okay, you don't think it exists now.

Andrew Schulz 11:50 Oh, I thought you believed it exists now.

Charlamagne tha God 11:51 I, I did up to a certain point, but I was like, in this era with all of the, the cameras and everything else-

Joe Rogan 11:56 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 11:56 ... somebody would've caught one.

Andrew Schulz 11:56 Right.

Joe Rogan 11:57 Okay, good.

Charlamagne tha God 11:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:57 E- e- i- I was a little worried.

Charlamagne tha God 11:59 No, it's like, no, no, no, no, no.

Joe Rogan 12:00 Is there?

Charlamagne tha God 12:00 I don't, I don't believe in it now.

Joe Rogan 12:01 Well, you know something?

Charlamagne tha God 12:02 I, I, I believe it existed at some point, but I don't believe it exists anymore.

Andrew Schulz 12:05 Let me tell you something. Charlamagne has this amazing power to manifest shit. Okay?

Charlamagne tha God 12:09 Uh-huh.

Andrew Schulz 12:09 So I see...... how it could lend itself, when you believe something so much it becomes real.

Joe Rogan 12:16 Right.

Andrew Schulz 12:16 Right? I could see how it manifests itself into things like Bigfoot. Like, you believe in things.

Charlamagne tha God 12:22 I mean, Sasquatch is, wasn't, it's not a far-fetched idea.

Andrew Schulz 12:25 No.

Joe Rogan 12:25 Yes.

Charlamagne tha God 12:25 It's literally just a primate in the woods.

Andrew Schulz 12:27 I'm just saying, when you were young and you believed that you were Teen Wolf. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:31 Yes, that was true. That-

Andrew Schulz 12:31 Like, he beli... No, no, no, no, no. I'm kidding.

Joe Rogan 12:35 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 12:35 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 12:35 I'm trying to understand.

12:35 – 17:59

Memory, false confessions, and ‘the hag’—sleep paralysis and night terrors

Charlamagne tha God 12:35 But in third grade, I did.

Andrew Schulz 12:36 But- but-

Joe Rogan 12:37 Yeah, it was third grade.

Charlamagne tha God 12:37 ... he believed that his ears actually changed shape.

Joe Rogan 12:40 No, they did. I was sitting at the lunch table- (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 12:45 (laughs) 50 cent.

Charlamagne tha God 12:45 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 12:45 That's surreal. That's so real.

Charlamagne tha God 12:45 And I was telling everybody I was gonna turn into this werewolf at lunchtime. And I was saying this for, like, a week straight, and we was all sitting at the table, and I was just sitting there like, "It's gonna happen."

Joe Rogan 12:55 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 12:56 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 12:56 "It's happening. It's happening. It's happening." And my ears actually went from round to pointy for like two seconds.

Andrew Schulz 13:02 There's no fucking way. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:02 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 13:02 And when all, all the kids at the table saw it and jumped up and ran. So they fucked up my concentration. So if I had have kept that concentration going, I probably would have turned full-fledged w- werewolf in that moment.

Joe Rogan 13:13 Or maybe levitated.

Andrew Schulz 13:14 Possible.

Charlamagne tha God 13:14 I've done that before.

Joe Rogan 13:15 Really?

Charlamagne tha God 13:16 Oh, yeah. I used to, I grew up Jehovah Witness, so I used to leave the Kingdom Hall. And I would walk outside of the Kingdom Hall-

Joe Rogan 13:20 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 13:20 ... and I would like jump in the air and be looking down at the Kingdom Hall. And I'd stay up there for a while, and then I would come down.

Joe Rogan 13:26 Whoa.

Andrew Schulz 13:26 (laughs) You see how he believes... But here's the thing-

Charlamagne tha God 13:29 That's a fact. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 13:30 ... he's not, he's not doing bits, right? He really-

Joe Rogan 13:32 I understand.

Andrew Schulz 13:32 ... believes this shit.

Charlamagne tha God 13:33 Okay, I'm just telling you what happened in my life. I mean-

Andrew Schulz 13:35 Uh-huh.

Charlamagne tha God 13:35 ... if you believe it, you believe it. If you don't, you don't.

Joe Rogan 13:37 Memory's a strange thing.

Andrew Schulz 13:38 Ah, you think it's one of those-

Charlamagne tha God 13:40 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 13:40 ... like you recreate the past?

Joe Rogan 13:41 Well, memory's a strange thing. Like you, you can believe something and know something to be true when it didn't actually happen.

Charlamagne tha God 13:48 Mm.

Joe Rogan 13:48 You can absolutely do that. I mean, there's... What, what you have, people have memories in their head that never happened. You have memories that people have positioned in your head, they've proven, that you can talk someone into a memory, you can change someone's memory. That's why it's particularly-

Charlamagne tha God 14:02 Oh, yeah, fact.

Joe Rogan 14:02 ... dangerous for kids when they... You know, there was a whole case where they were-

Andrew Schulz 14:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:05 ... talking kids into saying that their teachers molested them.

Andrew Schulz 14:08 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:08 And all these people, like, lost their careers, lost their lives.

Andrew Schulz 14:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:11 Turned out it was all 100% made up. But those kids believed it. They believed when they were telling them that they were molested. They believed it.

Andrew Schulz 14:18 Yeah, that's why, uh-

Joe Rogan 14:18 They were coached into it.

Andrew Schulz 14:19 ... what is that called when you give that information to the police? What is it called when they, like, interrogate you? They say interrogations can be bullshit.

Charlamagne tha God 14:26 We coerce you. Coerce you.

Joe Rogan 14:26 Yeah, they coerce you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 14:27 Yes.

Joe Rogan 14:27 Well, there was a whole article I was reading the other day about why people make false confessions.

Andrew Schulz 14:31 Why?

Joe Rogan 14:31 Like, they, they just get talked into believing that they actually did something.

Charlamagne tha God 14:34 I mean, you're, you're scared to death if you're a kid-

Joe Rogan 14:35 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 14:35 ... especially a young kid from the hood, and you're like 15, 16 years old, and the police are like, "Yo, you going to jail for 20 years if you don't tell us what we need to know."

Joe Rogan 14:41 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 14:41 You don't fucking know no better.

Andrew Schulz 14:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:42 Not only that, they put you under duress. They m- they put you in a room, they si- sit you across from a position of authority, and this person questions you.

Charlamagne tha God 14:50 Hell yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:50 And they tell you- You start, you start talking. You start saying things that aren't true.

Charlamagne tha God 14:52 You've seen Beyond Scared Straight, they tell you gonna get 20 years, and get butt-fucked for 15 of them.

Joe Rogan 14:57 Ooh, shit. 15.

Andrew Schulz 14:57 So the first five, they l- they let you kind of settle in for the first five.

Charlamagne tha God 15:02 Yeah, you know the butt-fuck is coming.

Andrew Schulz 15:04 (laughs) Let that butt, let that butt get nice and tight.

Charlamagne tha God 15:06 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 15:06 Let that butt dry age.

Andrew Schulz 15:07 At five-year birthday.

Joe Rogan 15:08 Dry age. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 15:10 (laughs) Like some elk.

Charlamagne tha God 15:11 You might go, listen, you might go in underage, you know? These- these criminals got morals and values.

Joe Rogan 15:15 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 15:15 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 15:15 They got what- They're gonna wake you, but not till you 18.

Andrew Schulz 15:17 Grown the fuck up.

Charlamagne tha God 15:17 Yeah, wait till you're like, "Ah."

Andrew Schulz 15:18 Come on, now.

Joe Rogan 15:19 Oh my God.

Charlamagne tha God 15:19 You gotta wait till you're 18.

Joe Rogan 15:19 They're not monsters.

Charlamagne tha God 15:20 Listen, when I was young, I used to have a red tractor trailer. It was a red plastic trailer with a g- a farmer on top of it. It was like one of those hard plastic trailers. That farmer used to get off that trailer and fuck with me.

Joe Rogan 15:32 Oh.

Charlamagne tha God 15:32 And I took it in the yard one day, put kerosene on it, and set it on fire.

Joe Rogan 15:35 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 15:36 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 15:36 And, and in my mind, I remember hearing that farm- farmer scream. My mom will even tell you the story of how I used to always talk about how this fucking farmer used to come off with his tractor and fuck with me, and she w- she saw me set it on fire. And I thought I was crazy until years later I met, uh, Tiffany Haddish and she said she had experiences with her Teddy bears used to come to life and fuck with her.

Joe Rogan 15:56 Whoa.

Charlamagne tha God 15:56 So I'm just saying.

Joe Rogan 15:58 Hm.

Charlamagne tha God 15:59 I'm just saying. Shit happens.

Joe Rogan 16:00 Did all this... Did it happen at night?

Andrew Schulz 16:02 I haven't heard this story.

Joe Rogan 16:03 Did it happen at night? When did it happen?

Charlamagne tha God 16:05 Uh, I don't remember. I can't rememb- I don't remember like the details of when it was at night or, or during the day.

Joe Rogan 16:10 That's one of those things they're trying to figure out with UFO abductions.

Andrew Schulz 16:13 Okay.

Joe Rogan 16:13 You know, m- almost all those UFO abductions happen while people are sleeping. And they think what's happening is your brain is releasing endogenous psychedelic chemicals and it's forcing you to have these hallucinations, and that you really do believe you're taken aboard these UFOs and gone away. But if someone is watching you with a camera, nothing actually happens.

Andrew Schulz 16:30 Question.

Joe Rogan 16:30 But these people swear by it.

Andrew Schulz 16:31 Have you ever had one of those dreams where it feels as if someone's holding you down-

Charlamagne tha God 16:37 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 16:37 ... to the bed?

Charlamagne tha God 16:37 That's the hag, the hag's riding you. I mean, it's-

Andrew Schulz 16:40 The hag. That's a term, right?

Charlamagne tha God 16:40 They, they, they really call it a sleep pa- par- uh, paralysis.

Andrew Schulz 16:43 Sleep paralysis.

Charlamagne tha God 16:43 But growing up in South Carolina, they would say the hag was riding you.

Andrew Schulz 16:46 Okay. What is-

Charlamagne tha God 16:46 And you would have to take salt.

Andrew Schulz 16:47 What the fuck is that?

Joe Rogan 16:48 What the heck is a hag?

Charlamagne tha God 16:48 You would either put a s- you'd either put a straw broom at your door or you would take salt and sprinkle salt at your door, 'cause when the hag enters your room, he gotta pick up every kernel of salt. So by the time he picks up every kernel of salt, it's fucking daytime.

Joe Rogan 16:58 What is a hag?

Charlamagne tha God 16:59 A hag was like these little old women that they say would come ride people in the middle of the night.

Joe Rogan 17:05 Whoa.

Charlamagne tha God 17:05 I think I've seen 'em before, but it's really looks like just a shadowy figure. And it's the same feeling. You get that feeling like-

Andrew Schulz 17:10 Dude.

Charlamagne tha God 17:11 ... your body is frozen-

Andrew Schulz 17:12 Like, can't move.

Charlamagne tha God 17:12 ... but your, your eyes are open-

Andrew Schulz 17:14 Yes.

Charlamagne tha God 17:14 ... but you, you feel like you're talking but nobody hears you.

Joe Rogan 17:17 Mm.

Charlamagne tha God 17:17 That- that's what, that's, they say, they say that's the hag riding you.

Andrew Schulz 17:19 What do they say that is? Like, what do scientists say that is?

Joe Rogan 17:21 Sleep paralysis?

Charlamagne tha God 17:22 Sleep paralysis.

Joe Rogan 17:22 I don't think... Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 17:23 The blood's not flowing in your body. It's like when you're sitting on the toilet too long and your fucking leg goes to sleep.

Andrew Schulz 17:26 And your legs go.

Charlamagne tha God 17:27 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:27 I think it's a psychological thing. I think y- your, your brain is just not sending signals to your body, but you want to move and you just don't. You're like-

Andrew Schulz 17:34 Dude.

Joe Rogan 17:34 ... "I gotta move but I can't." Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 17:36 No, that shit's frightening.

Charlamagne tha God 17:37 I- I, I had that before.

Joe Rogan 17:39 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 17:39 And I've had that before, and I had, uh, when I woke up, it was this... You seen the movie Signs?

Andrew Schulz 17:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:43 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 17:44 So it was this creature that looked like he was from the movie Signs, but it was purple and black, and it was standing over me.

Joe Rogan 17:49 Hm.

Charlamagne tha God 17:49 And I couldn't move. And so I was making noises trying to get it to go away. And as the sun came up, it just faded away. Now that I don't know if it was a dream or an actual visit from, uh, extraterrestrials.

17:59 – 26:37

Aliens, infinity, relativity, and the ‘light sail’ idea (plus Bob Lazar & Space Force jokes)

Joe Rogan 17:59 It could be. The thing about extraterrestrials, right?

Andrew Schulz 18:01 You believe in them?

Joe Rogan 18:03 Well-

Charlamagne tha God 18:04 You know I believe in him.

Andrew Schulz 18:05 This ... Well, you believe in everything.

Joe Rogan 18:06 The r- the reality is-

Andrew Schulz 18:07 You believe in toys that can harass you as a child.

Joe Rogan 18:09 There's, there's no evidence, but the numbers of humans ... I mean, the numbers of planets, rather, that could support humans, they're, they're pretty ... W- w- just what we've documented so far is pretty interesting. Just what they know about the thousands of planets they've discovered, there's hundreds that could possibly support human life. And then there's hundreds of billions of galaxies.

Andrew Schulz 18:29 Right.

Joe Rogan 18:29 So the idea that we're the only one ... Not only that, Neil deGrasse Tyson explained this to me. It's r- this is, this is a mind fuck and a half.

Andrew Schulz 18:35 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 18:36 That the universe is so big that not only is there another you out there, that has done everything exactly as you've done, to e- every pause-

Andrew Schulz 18:47 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 18:48 Like that pause? Every pause, down to the second.

Andrew Schulz 18:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:51 An infinite number of times.

Andrew Schulz 18:52 Yeah. Y- yeah. You're talking about ... Is it called the, uh, infinite ... In infinite universes, there's this exact conversation happening-

Joe Rogan 19:00 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 19:00 ... with people who look exactly like that. Because infinity implies that there could be a million-

Joe Rogan 19:03 And infinite variations.

Andrew Schulz 19:04 Right.

Joe Rogan 19:04 There's, there's one where you get up right now and you have to take a piss.

Andrew Schulz 19:07 Right, right.

Joe Rogan 19:07 And you run out of the room. Where Charlamagne-

Andrew Schulz 19:08 'Cause there's ... There you are here, I'm there. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:09 There's one where you get up and you're mad-

Andrew Schulz 19:11 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:11 ... that we don't believe you, that you saw Bigfoot or something.

Andrew Schulz 19:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:13 You know? That that kind of shit-

Andrew Schulz 19:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:15 Th- this ... The idea that when you think of infinity-

Andrew Schulz 19:18 Right.

Joe Rogan 19:18 ... y- we think about it as being really big. It's not ... It's impossible-

Andrew Schulz 19:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:22 ... to put it in your head.

Andrew Schulz 19:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:23 That infinite, infinite universes, like the size of the universe, 14 billion light years apart, infinite numbers of those. Not only that, they think that inside every galaxy is a super massive black hole, and inside that black hole may be another universe with hundreds of billions of galaxies, with hundreds of billions of black holes inside each one of those hundreds of billions of galaxies, hundreds of billions of black holes, that it's fractal and that it's impossible for you to even conceive.

Charlamagne tha God 19:50 Yeah, I think it's very selfish-

Andrew Schulz 19:51 So you're saying just based on the numbers, there has to be something else out there.

Charlamagne tha God 19:55 There has to be.

Joe Rogan 19:55 Right, right.

Andrew Schulz 19:55 And you run out of the room or-

Charlamagne tha God 19:56 You know how arrogant you gotta be to think that we're the only life in this fucking universe?

Andrew Schulz 19:58 I don't think we're the only life in the universe. I'm just saying like, hmm.

Joe Rogan 20:02 Whether or not it's reached us.

Andrew Schulz 20:03 It, it ... Well, yeah, I don't think it's reached us. And if it has reached us, it's like they have to find a way to bend time, right?

Charlamagne tha God 20:08 Not really.

Andrew Schulz 20:09 'Cause time is the biggest issue, bro.

Charlamagne tha God 20:10 No. I'm gonna tell you what the problem ... Like w- we're earthlings, right?

Andrew Schulz 20:13 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 20:13 And if you look at how diverse the earth is, like there's different species of shit in the woods, different species-

Andrew Schulz 20:17 Right.

Charlamagne tha God 20:18 ... of shit in the water, different species of shit in the jungle, different species of shit in the sky. Why wouldn't the earth be ... I mean, the universe be just as diverse?

Andrew Schulz 20:25 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 20:25 And w- w- we're assuming-

Andrew Schulz 20:27 Sure it is. Sure it is.

Charlamagne tha God 20:27 We're assuming we're the smartest life form in the universe.

Andrew Schulz 20:30 No, no, no, I'm not at all. And sure it is. All I'm saying is, life has an end, right? What is the, the, the oldest species, uh, on the earth right now? What do turtles live? Like 200 or some shit like that? What ... Who lives the longest?

Charlamagne tha God 20:41 Morgan Freeman is the oldest species-

Joe Rogan 20:43 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 20:44 ... on the goddamn earth.

Andrew Schulz 20:45 So, so let's say it's 200, 300 years, right? Let's say that's the max. Now we have 300 years to travel millions of light years away to get to another galaxy to see other planets, to see if they have some shit, and they have the same for us. So let's say there is another species that somehow found a way to take y- the consciousness that they have and put it in a robot that can then last for thousands of years, then they would have the opportunity to come here. But we're limited by time, right? You will die before you get somewhere. Like-

Charlamagne tha God 21:17 'Cause we-

Andrew Schulz 21:17 ... we can go to Mars, we can't come back. Time.

Charlamagne tha God 21:19 I think we're b- ... I think we're basing that off our intelligence. There might be a species in this universe that can fly to earth the way we fly to LA.

Joe Rogan 21:25 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 21:25 But that's what I'm saying. They would have to bend time.

Joe Rogan 21:27 Probably even easier than that. Not necessarily. What they could do is fold time.

Andrew Schulz 21:30 Or fold it, whatever-

Joe Rogan 21:30 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 21:30 You know what I mean? Create that wormhole thing-

Joe Rogan 21:32 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 21:33 ... where you're going ... Where instead of it's not linear, it's whatever.

Joe Rogan 21:36 The idea is you take time-

Andrew Schulz 21:37 I don't know. It's in some movie.

Joe Rogan 21:37 ... like it was in, um, Event Horizon. They talked about how they did that. Remember that movie?

Andrew Schulz 21:42 Yeah, but ... And there was another one too, with Matthew McConaughey.

Joe Rogan 21:46 Oh, yeah, yeah. Interstellar.

Andrew Schulz 21:47 Interstellar, yeah. Where they get into like space time. Space time is really interesting, right? It's like the faster you go, the, the less you age.

Joe Rogan 21:54 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 21:54 Right? Like so if somebody's in a plane flying around-

Joe Rogan 21:56 In comparison to someone here.

Andrew Schulz 21:57 On the earth, right?

Joe Rogan 21:58 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 21:58 So if someone's flying around the earth in a plane, versus us sitting on earth, they will age fractionally less, right? So if you just increase their speed and decrease ours, uh, well not ... Or keep ours at the same, they will, let's say, not age at all compared to us aging like 30 years.

Joe Rogan 22:12 Even crazier, Brian Cox, uh, I went to see his, uh, Cosmos exhibit and-

Andrew Schulz 22:17 Wait, that's the, the physicist?

Joe Rogan 22:18 The astronaut.

Andrew Schulz 22:19 Oh.

Joe Rogan 22:19 He's a physicist.

Andrew Schulz 22:20 Okay.

Joe Rogan 22:20 Uh, from CERN, from the Large Hadron Collider.

Andrew Schulz 22:23 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:23 He has a bunch of different-

Andrew Schulz 22:24 And so it's some of that shit. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:25 ... podcasts and shows. He said that if you were born and right next to you, like your mother and you both put on a watch at the moment you were born.

Andrew Schulz 22:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:33 And then you check that watch 30 years later, if you have a perfect watch, it was never out of time, your watch would have a different time than her watch, because you have gone through time differently than she has.

Andrew Schulz 22:45 Fractionally.

Charlamagne tha God 22:45 I don't understand.

Joe Rogan 22:45 Yeah, fractionally.

Andrew Schulz 22:47 Okay.

Joe Rogan 22:47 Because the amount of sp- the ... How fast you travel-

Andrew Schulz 22:50 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 22:50 ... it, it ... You, you, you experience time at a different way. The path you take in life, the, the different terrain you travel over the earth, all those factors play in to how much time has passed while you're alive.

Andrew Schulz 23:02 Let's say you live on the top of a mountain-

Joe Rogan 23:04 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 23:04 ... and she lives at the bottom. You're actually traveling at a faster rate, right? Because it's no different than like, uh ... Let's say there was a ball on a tether, right? And you're just swinging it around in a circle, right? The ball at the end is actually going faster than your hand in the middle swinging around.

Charlamagne tha God 23:20 Got you.

Andrew Schulz 23:21 Right? So since you're going fast, you're actually aging slower.

Joe Rogan 23:23 And we're talking about fractions of seconds.

Andrew Schulz 23:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:26 But over the course of time, it proves that everyone experiences time at a slightly different rate, which proves Einstein's theory that if you do travel-

Andrew Schulz 23:34 Relativity, right. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:34 ... very fast in a spaceship and then come back, you would look at your brother who was your age and now he's 100 years old and you're only 30.

Charlamagne tha God 23:41 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 23:41 So I got ... I think I figured it out, how we can time travel.

Joe Rogan 23:44 All right.

Andrew Schulz 23:44 Or not time travel, but I think I figured it out. All right.

Joe Rogan 23:46 How?

Andrew Schulz 23:46 So we're trying to create ... Okay. And again, I don't know shit, but this is just me like, you know, pontificating, right?

Charlamagne tha God 23:50 Brilliant idiot logic.

Andrew Schulz 23:51 This is brilliant idiot ship right here.

Charlamagne tha God 23:53 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 23:53 Okay. So what we have to do is go faster than the speed of light in order to time travel. I don't know how to do that just yet. But what I think we can do is, we're trying to use like rockets to propel us at a certain mile per hour to get close to the speed of light. Fuck the, fuck the rockets. Why don't we use light as wind and create a sail that harnesses light?... and that sail will naturally take us the same speed, or as close as we possibly could get to the speed of light.

Joe Rogan 24:20 They did that in a movie called Sunshine.

Andrew Schulz 24:22 I'm a fucking genius. You saw this shit, bro?

Charlamagne tha God 24:24 Oh, you saw Su-

Joe Rogan 24:25 I'm a fucking genius, Jamie.

Charlamagne tha God 24:26 Oh, you saw Sunshine and didn't tell anybody. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:28 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 24:28 Where the fuck is that? Sunshine? How could you see that movie? I don't even know what an ALC is.

Joe Rogan 24:33 Science fiction. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 24:35 Come on. Come on, Joe.

Joe Rogan 24:37 It's a science fiction movie. I'm talking to Bob Lazar tonight. That was the guy I was telling you I wanted to bring you to dinner.

Andrew Schulz 24:42 I'm going.

Joe Rogan 24:42 And you too, as well, if you wanna come. He's the guy who worked at Area 51. And, uh, I'm not even-

Andrew Schulz 24:46 I didn't even know if we could talk about this today.

Joe Rogan 24:48 ... gonna do the podcast tomorrow.

Charlamagne tha God 24:49 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 24:49 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 24:49 I believe in Area 51, bro.

Andrew Schulz 24:50 I wasn't gonna bring it up.

Joe Rogan 24:51 Oh, Area 51's real, but this guy literally worked on what he says are alien space crafts. Spacecraft that sail on sunshine could be the next big thing in space life-

Andrew Schulz 25:00 Jamie.

Joe Rogan 25:00 Bro, you should work for NASA.

Andrew Schulz 25:01 Jamie. This is public school education.

Joe Rogan 25:03 And he can get you a job at Trump's Space Force.

Andrew Schulz 25:05 That's it.

Joe Rogan 25:06 So Tim Dillon got me this.

Andrew Schulz 25:06 And I don't wanna do any of the math. I just wanna throw the ideas out there, and I think I got it. 10 mil?

Joe Rogan 25:10 This is... This is a legit Space Force shirt from Trump's w- s- f- from Trump Tower. Tim Dillon bought me this. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 25:16 Yo, shouts at Tim. I love Tim.

Joe Rogan 25:18 This is, this is real. This is-

Charlamagne tha God 25:19 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:19 ... with the real fucking Space Force. This is the logo.

Charlamagne tha God 25:22 I saw it.

Andrew Schulz 25:23 Dude.

Charlamagne tha God 25:23 I thought you got that from Target or something.

Joe Rogan 25:24 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 25:25 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 25:25 I didn't know... I did. (laughs) I was...

Andrew Schulz 25:27 By his smell?

Charlamagne tha God 25:27 I was like, "I missed that cartoon or that old movie."

Joe Rogan 25:29 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 25:29 I went, "Did he just pay for it?"

Joe Rogan 25:30 This is the real Space Force, this fucking goofy shit.

Andrew Schulz 25:33 Dude.

Charlamagne tha God 25:34 You said you had a friend who works on alien space crafts?

Joe Rogan 25:36 Oh, I don't know.

Andrew Schulz 25:36 That's what I told you tonight.

Joe Rogan 25:37 I'm meeting him tonight. He's on the podcast...

Charlamagne tha God 25:39 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:39 ... tomorrow.

Charlamagne tha God 25:40 And he's-

Joe Rogan 25:40 But he worked at Area 51.

Charlamagne tha God 25:41 Is he allowed to talk about that shit without getting killed?

Joe Rogan 25:43 He is because he's been talking about it for decades.

Charlamagne tha God 25:45 Really?

Joe Rogan 25:45 Yeah. And they've tried to discredit him. There's a-

Charlamagne tha God 25:48 Bro.

Joe Rogan 25:48 He's very controversial. A lot of people think he's full of shit, but, uh, the more y- there's a recent documentary by Jeremy Corbell and the more you look at the documentary, he knows too many things. He knows too many things that, uh, that prove that he absolutely worked at Area 51. He got arrested for bringing people to a lookout peak to sh- look over where the area where they would launch these space ships. And he's got video of these things flying through the air doing all these maneuvers that no conventional space craft could do in 1980, whatever the fuck it was-

Charlamagne tha God 26:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:16 ... where he got arrested.

Charlamagne tha God 26:17 They must have some type of, uh, like, like, like, uh, NDA with extraterrestrials.

Joe Rogan 26:21 Where they don't talk about it?

Charlamagne tha God 26:22 Yeah. I feel like the US government or just governments in general throughout the world have some type of NDA with these extraterrestrials-

Andrew Schulz 26:26 The NDAs will kill you.

Charlamagne tha God 26:28 I don't know.

Andrew Schulz 26:29 That's how it works.

Joe Rogan 26:29 It probably is the same one Leonardo DiCaprio uses on his girlfriends.

Charlamagne tha God 26:32 (humming)

Andrew Schulz 26:32 Dude, he has got the greatest NDA in the history of the game.

Joe Rogan 26:35 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 26:35 Yeah. Oh, yeah. For now.

Andrew Schulz 26:35 Holy shit.

Joe Rogan 26:36 (laughs) For now.

26:37 – 44:06

NDAs, reputation leverage, and media ‘cancellation’ (Bill O’Reilly as a case study)

Charlamagne tha God 26:37 NDAs mean shit anymore.

Joe Rogan 26:39 (coughs)

Charlamagne tha God 26:39 Nobody gives a fuck about NDAs, bro.

Andrew Schulz 26:40 Yo, so we had-

Charlamagne tha God 26:41 You can pay people and they don't care. They'll come out and talk about it later. Or like...

Andrew Schulz 26:44 We had, uh, La- Lisa Anne on a, on a podcast, right? It was a podcast called s-

Joe Rogan 26:48 The porn star?

Andrew Schulz 26:48 Uh, yeah, called Flagrant 2, right? And Lisa Anne came on and, um, she was talking about NDAs and how stupid women are for, uh, obeying them. And I was like, "What are you talking about?" And she's like, "What do they have to lose? They don't have any money."

Charlamagne tha God 27:00 Exactly.

Andrew Schulz 27:01 So she's like, "You have a bunch of fucking heels in your apartment. You think that Leonardo gonna, DiCaprio is gonna take your heels? You could break-"

Charlamagne tha God 27:07 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 27:07 "... any fucking NDA." But for whatever reason they get scared.

Charlamagne tha God 27:10 You pay a woman a half a million dollars, tell her to keep her mouth closed. She breaks the NDA. In the NDA it says she has to pay you back. What, when you gonna be waiting-

Andrew Schulz 27:16 With my money.

Charlamagne tha God 27:16 Exactly. You're gonna be waiting on that money forever.

Andrew Schulz 27:18 With my money.

Joe Rogan 27:18 My favorite one is Bill O'Reilly. He had to pay a lady $32 million.

Charlamagne tha God 27:23 Un... There's no pussy worth that.

Andrew Schulz 27:24 I need to see what she looks like.

Joe Rogan 27:25 Watch... What did he do?

Andrew Schulz 27:26 Can we look at this woman?

Joe Rogan 27:27 I don't know.

Charlamagne tha God 27:27 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 27:27 I need to see that.

Joe Rogan 27:28 What did (laughs) what did (laughs) -

Charlamagne tha God 27:29 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 27:29 Yo, Bill is into some wild shit.

Joe Rogan 27:30 Wild shit. Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 27:32 Can we... There's no picture of this woman?

Joe Rogan 27:34 I don't... I don't know.

Andrew Schulz 27:34 I need to see 32 million dollar pussy.

Joe Rogan 27:36 I don't... We don't need to put this lady on blast, but the... 30...

Andrew Schulz 27:37 I would love to.

Charlamagne tha God 27:38 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 27:38 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 27:39 I would love to see what she looks like. 32 million.

Joe Rogan 27:42 He agreed to it. He agreed to it. And he's like, "Don't tell anyone."

Andrew Schulz 27:45 Oh, no. He's into some wild shit, bro.

Charlamagne tha God 27:46 He musta did something. He musta did something-

Joe Rogan 27:47 No.

Charlamagne tha God 27:47 ... he didn't want nobody to even remotely hear about.

Andrew Schulz 27:49 Oh, Bill's getting pegged. Bill's getting pegged. 100% get it.

Charlamagne tha God 27:52 But he... But no, no, no, no. It's n- it's s- it's not even about what actually happened. It's about what the person said they did to you that can ruin your reputation.

Joe Rogan 27:58 Right.

Andrew Schulz 27:59 She's got pics.

Charlamagne tha God 27:59 Especially in 2019.

Joe Rogan 28:00 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 28:00 She's got pics. She's got pics. She's got video. Something's going in Bill's ass guaranteed.

Charlamagne tha God 28:04 I doubt it. DNA.

Andrew Schulz 28:05 DNA? She's got his shit under her thumbnail.

Joe Rogan 28:08 Ooh.

Andrew Schulz 28:08 I guarantee.

Joe Rogan 28:09 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 28:09 And then a guy like Bill has to keep a certain like, I guess, you know, standard about himself, right? You have to look at him a certain way in order to, to listen to what he's saying, right?

Andrew Schulz 28:17 Yes.

Joe Rogan 28:17 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 28:17 In order to take his information, you know, correctly, I guess.

Joe Rogan 28:21 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 28:21 Seriously.

Charlamagne tha God 28:22 So to speak.

Andrew Schulz 28:22 Yeah. 'Cause-

Joe Rogan 28:23 Seriously.

Charlamagne tha God 28:23 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:23 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 28:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:24 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 28:24 So he could lose all that equity in his audience if he's out there doing wild shit.

Charlamagne tha God 28:27 He did. He did.

Joe Rogan 28:28 He actually didn't help him.

Charlamagne tha God 28:29 He actually did.

Joe Rogan 28:29 He's gone anyway.

Charlamagne tha God 28:30 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 28:31 Is it over for Bill?

Joe Rogan 28:32 Well, he's not on Fox News anymore.

Andrew Schulz 28:33 He's podcasting now, right?

Joe Rogan 28:34 He was their number one guy and they were like, "Not worth it."

Charlamagne tha God 28:38 Yeah, man. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 28:39 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:39 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 28:40 That's why he gotta... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:41 Oh.

Charlamagne tha God 28:42 Take out Bill to fuck outta here.

Andrew Schulz 28:44 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:44 Sho-

Charlamagne tha God 28:44 Y'all be talking about cancel culture.

Joe Rogan 28:46 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 28:46 Bill really got canceled for real, for real.

Joe Rogan 28:48 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 28:48 Game over.

Charlamagne tha God 28:49 In a big way.

Joe Rogan 28:50 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 28:50 And I think he does do some type of broadcasting now, but nobody cares.

Joe Rogan 28:54 Well, he let out a book and the book was number one New York Times bestseller. He does these-

Charlamagne tha God 28:58 After Fox?

Joe Rogan 28:59 Yeah. He does these-

Charlamagne tha God 29:00 Okay.

Joe Rogan 29:00 ... history books.

Andrew Schulz 29:00 Yes.

Charlamagne tha God 29:01 You know? Like-

Andrew Schulz 29:02 The... I don't even think he writes them. I think he just puts his name on it.

Joe Rogan 29:04 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 29:05 I wonder about a guy like Bill, though. Because think about it, like, you started your own platform, you know what I'm saying? And people really care about your voice. Did people ever really care about Bill's voice?

Andrew Schulz 29:13 That's the thing, right?

Charlamagne tha God 29:14 Because I feel like for-

Joe Rogan 29:14 Old white people did.

Charlamagne tha God 29:15 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 29:15 Nah, but check it, right? So it's like sometimes you become a mouthpiece for a network or for an ideology they believe in. And this is the difference. This is how you find out if people really fuck with you. The second you leave that network. It's like when people leave ESPN-

Joe Rogan 29:27 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 29:27 ... and you never hear about them again.

Joe Rogan 29:28 Right.

Andrew Schulz 29:28 It's like, "Oh, you thought you were bigger than ESPN?"

Charlamagne tha God 29:30 Right.

Andrew Schulz 29:31 "You thought you were bigger than the sports?"

Charlamagne tha God 29:32 Yes. Right. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 29:33 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 29:33 "Fuck outta here. They just want you to say strike."

Charlamagne tha God 29:35 Right.

Andrew Schulz 29:35 "Ball." That's it.

Joe Rogan 29:36 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 29:37 So I think we learned that Bill really didn't have all that cache that we thought we had.

Joe Rogan 29:43 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 29:43 That, that... Yeah. That's why like w- the ESPN is a good analogy. That's why you gotta give people like Skip Bayless props.

Joe Rogan 29:47 Yes.

Charlamagne tha God 29:47 You gotta give Jemele Hill props.

Joe Rogan 29:48 Yup. Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 29:49 They can go other places-

Joe Rogan 29:50 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 29:50 ... and people still care about what they have to say. Even if it's just in tweets.

Joe Rogan 29:53 Right.

Charlamagne tha God 29:54 I don't even know what Bill O'Reilly's Twitter handle is.

Andrew Schulz 29:56 ... I imagine something aro- like Bill O'Reilly.

Charlamagne tha God 29:58 I'm sure it is.

Andrew Schulz 29:59 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 29:59 But you don't ever see him... He's never known for like, "Oh, Bill O'Reilly said this on social media." When the last time you heard Bill O'Reilly say something-

Andrew Schulz 30:05 He might not even be on.

Charlamagne tha God 30:06 ... that made some news?

Andrew Schulz 30:07 Yeah, he, he might not even be on.

Charlamagne tha God 30:09 It's tough, bro.

Andrew Schulz 30:10 Yeah, he's podcasting from his like apartment or something like that.

Charlamagne tha God 30:12 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 30:13 Dude is, there's no background, nothing.

Charlamagne tha God 30:14 Really?

Andrew Schulz 30:15 Yeah, it's bad. He's not even wearing like suits.

Charlamagne tha God 30:17 (laughs)

30:17 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 30:18 He's got like a NASA rugby shirt.

Joe Rogan 30:20 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 30:20 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 30:20 Dude, it's Bill O'Rogan, bro.

Charlamagne tha God 30:23 Jesus Christ.

30:24 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 30:25 Bro, we gotta look him up. We gotta see the girl he fucked and hi- and see how they're living right now.

Charlamagne tha God 30:29 I think so.

Joe Rogan 30:30 I think guys like that, they say, "We'll just lay low for a couple of years and then someone will scoop you up again."

Charlamagne tha God 30:34 Nah.

Joe Rogan 30:34 But there's only one Fox, and when Fox lets you go-

Andrew Schulz 30:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:37 ... if you're one of those guys, those Neocon guys, like you don't really have any place else to go.

Andrew Schulz 30:41 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 30:42 A- a- and he's too old to really understand the landscape of like how to navigate this new internet space.

Andrew Schulz 30:47 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 30:47 Because you've got plenty of conservative voices who don't have those big platforms.

Joe Rogan 30:51 Right.

Charlamagne tha God 30:51 Like the Candace Owens-

Joe Rogan 30:53 Mm-hmm.

Charlamagne tha God 30:53 ... the Tommy Lawrance. Ben Shapiro's not on, he's not on TV.

Andrew Schulz 30:54 Yeah, there he is.

Joe Rogan 30:55 Look at him. Wow, no makeup.

Charlamagne tha God 30:57 He really (laughs) holy shit.

Andrew Schulz 30:57 Bro, look at the undershirt. He's, he's wearing a nurse's outfit underneath that button down.

Joe Rogan 31:02 He's got no pants on for sure.

Andrew Schulz 31:03 Guaranteed.

Charlamagne tha God 31:03 Yeah, that's Dad O'Reilly.

31:04 Yeah, his, his balls are sweaty-

31:05 Yo, I think that is a Space Force shirt for real under the button up.

Joe Rogan 31:07 Dude.

Andrew Schulz 31:08 That really is.

Charlamagne tha God 31:09 Look at it.

Andrew Schulz 31:09 Dude, what size is that button up shirt?

Charlamagne tha God 31:12 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 31:13 Did that shit take his wardrobe?

Charlamagne tha God 31:14 He's got a fat gut now-

31:15 Holy shit.

31:16 ... he's been drinking.

Andrew Schulz 31:16 No, this is not good.

Joe Rogan 31:18 That's weird.

Charlamagne tha God 31:18 No spin news.

Joe Rogan 31:19 Watch the film, full no spin news-

Charlamagne tha God 31:22 Nobody gives a fuck.

Joe Rogan 31:22 ... BillOReilly.com.

Andrew Schulz 31:24 No, we need to get some new shirts, bro.

Charlamagne tha God 31:25 Oh, and they got 581,000 views on whatever video that is.

Andrew Schulz 31:28 What does it say up there?

Joe Rogan 31:28 What is this on Twitter? "There are no charges. You are presumed innocent in this country."

Charlamagne tha God 31:34 Three million followers.

Joe Rogan 31:34 "This is not what the left wants." What is this about? What is he ranting about?

Charlamagne tha God 31:38 That's April 19th. Well, maybe we're tripping.

Joe Rogan 31:39 The Mueller Report.

Charlamagne tha God 31:40 Scroll down.

Joe Rogan 31:41 Wow. How many people are watching that? How many people have him on, uh, Twitter? How many, how many followers he got?

Charlamagne tha God 31:46 Three million followers he has.

Joe Rogan 31:47 Whoa.

Charlamagne tha God 31:47 And that video had 581,000 views.

Joe Rogan 31:49 Can you look at him right there in that video, right? Now, go down. Now scroll down. Do you think he's doing the orange thing to reflect Trump? Oh, 100%. He's bringing him in.

Charlamagne tha God 31:56 What?

Joe Rogan 31:57 Look at that, that's 100% the orange thing.

Charlamagne tha God 31:59 Abs- he looks like turmeric.

Joe Rogan 32:00 Yeah, but he don't look anything like he looks in real life. That's like an Instagram ho.

Charlamagne tha God 32:04 (laughs)

32:04 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:04 One of those weird filters. Like, look at him there, look at him there.

Charlamagne tha God 32:08 Fashion Nova Bill.

Joe Rogan 32:09 Look at him there, now look at him there. Come on, bro. If you met him at a restaurant, you'd be like, "Wait a minute, you gotta update your picture, son."

Charlamagne tha God 32:16 That's probably why he had to pay that woman $32 million in taxes today.

32:19 (laughs)

32:19 She's fucking disappointed.

Joe Rogan 32:20 Yo, go down. It keeps getting more orange. Go down.

Charlamagne tha God 32:23 Bro, that's hilarious.

32:24 Yo, maybe we tripping. Maybe pe- people are watching Bill O'Reilly.

Joe Rogan 32:26 They're definitely watching him.

Charlamagne tha God 32:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:27 He's got 500,000 views.

Charlamagne tha God 32:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:29 They're definitely watching it.

Andrew Schulz 32:30 But now he's in a vacuum.

Joe Rogan 32:31 But it's those crazy old white people that live in Kansas.

Andrew Schulz 32:34 Yeah, but they don't have Twitter.

Charlamagne tha God 32:35 It's like them people that are... Hey man, a win is a win.

Joe Rogan 32:37 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 32:37 You know what I'm saying? If you got 580,000 people that can watch when you put up a video and you can still get paid for it, I'm cool with that.

Joe Rogan 32:43 That's true.

Charlamagne tha God 32:43 You know what I'm saying? I think we put too much emphasis on like whatever main stream... And there's no s- there is no such thing as main stream because there's not just one stream anymore.

Joe Rogan 32:51 Right.

Andrew Schulz 32:51 Dude, that's-

Charlamagne tha God 32:52 Now it's over.

Andrew Schulz 32:52 That's why... And shouts at Brendan Schaub. That's why we wanted you guys to connect.

Charlamagne tha God 32:57 Mm.

Andrew Schulz 32:57 Because I feel like you guys represent the most... I think you both are both the most influential people in media, right? And you represent-

Charlamagne tha God 33:05 Don't put that kind of pressure on me.

Andrew Schulz 33:06 Well, I- I think-

Joe Rogan 33:07 Put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 33:08 I think it's important.

Charlamagne tha God 33:10 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:10 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 33:10 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 33:11 I think it's important. No, because I think you guys represent... And I think the illusion was, before I went on, before I went on air for the first time, the illusion was that these things operated in separate spheres, right? That there were these different vacuums, like the Charlamagne world, right, and then the Rogan world. And then I went on and I found all these people that knew me from our podcast that also listen to yours, right? So it turned out, in that moment, I was like, "Oh, shit, it makes sense now." It's not as fractured as people think.

Charlamagne tha God 33:36 Nah, because I-

Andrew Schulz 33:36 Everybody's aware.

Charlamagne tha God 33:38 Yeah, people always been hitting me for years, like, "Yo, you gotta go on Joe Rogan, you gotta go on Joe Rogan, you gotta go on Joe Rogan." So it's c- it's, it's clearly that the worlds collide.

Joe Rogan 33:45 It's all inter- interconnected.

Andrew Schulz 33:47 Especially-

Joe Rogan 33:48 Everything is.

Andrew Schulz 33:48 ... this internet wave that we're on right now.

Joe Rogan 33:50 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 33:50 The internet wave people are craving this type of information. They're craving the type of interviews you guys are doing and, and talking to the people you guys are talking to, right? And I don't know, for me, this is really cool just to see this concentration.

Joe Rogan 33:59 Well, they like... People like the fact that everybody could do everybody's show. It's not like... Like, Jimmy Kimmel never does like the Seth Meyers show.

Andrew Schulz 34:06 Thank God.

Joe Rogan 34:06 You know what I'm saying? It's like... But you know what I mean?

Andrew Schulz 34:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:07 It's like everything is not... That world is very disconnected.

Andrew Schulz 34:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:12 Whereas this world, the internet world is like... Like for the comics and podcasts-

Andrew Schulz 34:15 That's the best.

Joe Rogan 34:16 ... like, there's no competition. Everybody helps everybody. Everybody supports everybody.

Andrew Schulz 34:19 Yes.

Charlamagne tha God 34:19 No, you help everybody. I mean, that's one thing I've always noticed about your platform. Like, you've always brought on up and coming comedians who just needed that e- extra push to, for people to know who the fuck they are. You know what I'm saying?

Andrew Schulz 34:31 It's important.

Charlamagne tha God 34:32 Like I saw you had Miss Pat on yesterday.

Joe Rogan 34:34 I love her.

Andrew Schulz 34:34 Shout out to Miss Pat, man.

Charlamagne tha God 34:35 Oh, man, how can you not love Miss Pat?

Joe Rogan 34:36 Shout out to Miss Pat.

Charlamagne tha God 34:38 Riding, riding.

Joe Rogan 34:38 Genuinely funny.

Charlamagne tha God 34:39 Miss Pat's a force of nature.

Joe Rogan 34:40 Genuinely.

Charlamagne tha God 34:40 Yeah, force of nature.

34:40 And her story is insane.

Joe Rogan 34:43 Insane.

Charlamagne tha God 34:43 Like, you can only take a story that sad and that tragic-

Joe Rogan 34:46 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 34:46 ... and turn it into a sitcom.

Joe Rogan 34:47 She was talking yesterday-

Charlamagne tha God 34:48 (laughs) .

Joe Rogan 34:49 She was talking yesterday about her ex-husband who shot her in the titty.

Charlamagne tha God 34:52 In the titty.

34:52 Titty, yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:53 Shot her, shot her in the head, shot her in the titty, shot her in the back of the head. Shot her in the titty, got her pregnant, was fucking her when she was 12, got her pregnant when she was 14, with two kids by the time she was 16, she had an abortion when she was 16 with, with his third kid. She called him up to try to get him to apologize to her. He wouldn't apologize to her, so she forgave him and she said it released like this huge weight off of her shoulders. She was talking about it. Like, you can't believe her story. And she's-

Charlamagne tha God 35:17 I'm not with that shit either.

Joe Rogan 35:17 She's laughing about it. Of course not.

Charlamagne tha God 35:19 Yeah, I'm not... I'm like, I got... Yeah, that whole forgiveness thing, we talk about that all the time. I'm not with that whole, like, "I forgive you and it makes me feel better." I'm fine not fucking with you. (laughs)

35:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:28 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 35:29 I'm fi- I'm fine saying, "Fuck this guy, fuck this person."

Joe Rogan 35:32 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 35:32 Like, I don't care.

Joe Rogan 35:33 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 35:33 Like, why the fuck do I have to forgive you? I- I- when I saw, uh, you know, the Emanuel movie just came out, you know, uh, the shooting that happened in Charleston, South Carolina, and like all of the family members forgave Dylann Roof. And I'm like, there's one dude in there that's like, "Fuck him, he killed my mama. I'm not forgiving him." (laughs) I'm like, yes.

Joe Rogan 35:50 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 35:50 Like that's per- that's a perfectly fine emotion.

Joe Rogan 35:52 Yes.

Charlamagne tha God 35:53 You d- you go talk to your therapist about it, you allow yourself to feel, like, "Yes, fuck him." Why do we feel like we gotta forgive-

Joe Rogan 35:59 I think she just...

Charlamagne tha God 35:59 ... and a, and a weight comes off our shoulders?

Joe Rogan 36:01 I think she's, for her, it was like she was carrying it around her whole life.

Charlamagne tha God 36:04 Mm.

Joe Rogan 36:05 You know, I think-

Charlamagne tha God 36:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:05 ... for her, it just helped her and she knew he was a piece of shit. When she was talking to him, she said to him, like, "You were fucking me when I was 12 years old." And he literally said this to her, "Your mind and your body wasn't 12."

Andrew Schulz 36:15 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:16 That's what he said to her. And she was just like... So she decided after that, like, "I'm not gonna invest my energy in this."

Charlamagne tha God 36:22 Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 36:22 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 36:22 She says, "I'm gonna let it go."

Charlamagne tha God 36:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:24 Let it go. So she just doesn't fuck with him, doesn't talk with him.

Charlamagne tha God 36:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:27 But she doesn't, she doesn't carry around the hate that was, uh, it was poisoning her.

Andrew Schulz 36:31 Yeah, I get it. And I understand-

Charlamagne tha God 36:32 (sniffs) .

Andrew Schulz 36:32 ... the power of forgiveness. There's a reason why it exists, right? There's a reason why it's, you know, it's still here for thousands of years, this idea of, "Hey, let's forgive so that we could feel better." Right? I think, I think, I think usually things get weeded out if they don't work.

Joe Rogan 36:45 Well, it's hard to forgive someone that doesn't feel bad about what they did. It's one thing if you're like-

Andrew Schulz 36:49 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 36:49 ... "Man, I fucked up. I'm sorry. Please forgive me."

Charlamagne tha God 36:51 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 36:52 If-

Joe Rogan 36:52 You're like, "I get it. You're a person. Human beings make mistakes. I forgive you."

Andrew Schulz 36:55 Yeah, but-

Charlamagne tha God 36:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:55 But if someone is like, "You were, you weren't, uh, you know, you weren't 12 with your mind and your body," and he's talking about fucking you when you were-

Andrew Schulz 37:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:02 ... 12 years old. Like, I have an 11-year-old daughter. The idea of a grown man fucking her-

Andrew Schulz 37:06 No, we gotta go bow hunting.

Joe Rogan 37:07 ... makes me violent.

Andrew Schulz 37:07 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 37:08 Yeah, you're not gonna forgive him.

Andrew Schulz 37:09 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 37:09 No. Yeah, I might f- you might fuck him up. And then after you fuck him up, you'd be like, "You know what? It's all good." (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 37:14 Well-

Charlamagne tha God 37:14 You know what I'm saying?

Andrew Schulz 37:15 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 37:16 After you put a fucking arrow in his fucking gut-

Andrew Schulz 37:17 In his head.

Charlamagne tha God 37:18 ... one more time.

Andrew Schulz 37:18 That's it. (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 37:18 You know, say, "Oh, yeah, it's all good. We're good now."

Andrew Schulz 37:19 So maybe forgiveness is, is like misconstrued. Maybe you're not actually forgiving the person and letting them off for what they did, but you, maybe you're just re- removing them from your consciousness.

Charlamagne tha God 37:27 People forgive when they not gonna do shit.

Joe Rogan 37:29 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 37:29 Ooh.

Charlamagne tha God 37:29 People forgive when they have realized, "I'm not gonna slap the shit out of this person."

Andrew Schulz 37:33 It's like when someone huge punches you in the face, you're like, "I forgive you."

Charlamagne tha God 37:36 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 37:36 "I forgive you."

Charlamagne tha God 37:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:36 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 37:37 You know what? You gotta bro.

Andrew Schulz 37:38 I'm attaching myself to Jesus.

Charlamagne tha God 37:40 You gotta spend some time with God.

Joe Rogan 37:40 Right. (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 37:41 Because I can't carry this no more. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 37:43 Yeah. Mike Tyson spits in your face. "I forgive you, Mike."

Joe Rogan 37:46 Hey, Mike, we don't know what we do.

Charlamagne tha God 37:47 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 37:47 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:47 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 37:47 We don't know what we do sometimes. We make mistakes.

Andrew Schulz 37:50 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 37:50 We all make mistakes out here.

Andrew Schulz 37:51 It's all good.

Charlamagne tha God 37:51 You know what I mean? In the street when somebody gets punched in the face and be like, "Yo, all right. You got it. You got it." (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 37:55 That's it.

Charlamagne tha God 37:55 Hey, bro.

Andrew Schulz 37:56 That's forgiveness.

Charlamagne tha God 37:56 Yeah, that's forgiveness. That's forgiveness.

Joe Rogan 37:58 Listen, I'm a Christian.

Andrew Schulz 37:59 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:59 I'm not gonna be out here fighting you, Mike. You're not gonna attach me to the worst parts of my nature.

Charlamagne tha God 38:04 By the way, that's probably when I would get to that point of forgiveness, when you wanna do something to somebody so bad, but when you get the opportunity, you don't.

Joe Rogan 38:11 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 38:11 And you realize it's that- not that important to you. Then at that moment, I might be like, "You know what? God bless him, man."

Joe Rogan 38:16 Yes.

Charlamagne tha God 38:16 "I wish him the best, man."

Joe Rogan 38:17 That's real.

Andrew Schulz 38:17 When, when you guys have, like, surpassed people in your career that were pieces of shit to you as you were coming up, did, did the, uh, anger that you had towards them totally leave your body?

Charlamagne tha God 38:27 No, absolutely not.

Andrew Schulz 38:28 You hold onto that shit.

Charlamagne tha God 38:29 I write books about it.

Andrew Schulz 38:30 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 38:30 I do. I'm, I'm marginalized forever.

Andrew Schulz 38:31 You're like Jordan at the press conference. (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 38:33 I'm marginalized forever. I need you... And, and by the way, God bless you.

Andrew Schulz 38:36 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 38:36 But the facts are the facts.

Joe Rogan 38:38 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 38:38 You did fire me.

Joe Rogan 38:39 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 38:40 Right.

Charlamagne tha God 38:40 You know Boogie D? From, uh, in, from, in Philly? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 38:44 Yo.

Andrew Schulz 38:44 This guy is wild. This guy is wild. (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 38:46 From 91.3 WEOX. You did fire me for no fucking reason.

Joe Rogan 38:48 Fucked up Boogie.

Charlamagne tha God 38:49 You did.

Joe Rogan 38:50 Boogie D.

Charlamagne tha God 38:50 It happened.

Joe Rogan 38:50 I know you're listening.

Andrew Schulz 38:52 Right.

Charlamagne tha God 38:52 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 38:52 Shut up.

Andrew Schulz 38:53 Hey, Boogie, what you doing right now?

Joe Rogan 38:54 Fucked up Boogie. Boogie, how you feeling?

Charlamagne tha God 38:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 38:56 He does, uh, he does radio in St. Louis.

Andrew Schulz 38:57 He does?

Charlamagne tha God 38:58 Yeah, yeah. 'Cause they told him that if he, um, if, if he fired me and whatever he brought in didn't work, they was gonna send him back to St. Louis. 'Cause he had moved from St. Louis to do, be the PD in Philly. And so he fired me. What he brought in didn't work.

Andrew Schulz 39:10 Right.

Charlamagne tha God 39:11 And they kept their word.

Andrew Schulz 39:12 And they sent his ass back.

Joe Rogan 39:13 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 39:13 Back in St. Louis. God, but it's probably the best thing for him though.

Andrew Schulz 39:16 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 39:16 But everything worked out for everybody. He's living a great life in St. Louis. I'm living a great life, life.

Andrew Schulz 39:23 Have you seen that, uh, uh, Jordan, uh, what is it?

Joe Rogan 39:26 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 39:26 What did he get into?

Joe Rogan 39:27 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 39:27 Not the all... What was it? Uh...

Joe Rogan 39:28 It was... What is it?

Charlamagne tha God 39:29 Hall of Fame-y.

Joe Rogan 39:29 Yeah. Hall of Fame.

Andrew Schulz 39:29 Oh, yeah. The Hall of Fame speech. He wouldn't stop talking about journalists. Bro.

Charlamagne tha God 39:33 Uh, uh, everything.

Andrew Schulz 39:33 He remembered every single thing. And that was his, "He's Bernard Hopkins." Remember? Remember Bernard Hopkins, the fighter?

Joe Rogan 39:39 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 39:39 He needed to be the villain. He needed to be the heel.

Joe Rogan 39:41 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 39:41 For the motivation.

Joe Rogan 39:42 Y'all don't use that? Y'all don't have people that shitted on y'all and, like, you know-

Andrew Schulz 39:45 When I surpass them, it goes away.

Joe Rogan 39:47 You kept, you kept growing? Not for me.

Andrew Schulz 39:48 When I surpass them, it goes away. It's weird. It's like bullying.

Joe Rogan 39:50 I'm not, I'm not saying it goes away, but I have to remind you. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 39:53 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 39:54 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 39:54 I have to remind you that you told me I wasn't gonna make it.

Andrew Schulz 39:57 Bro.

Joe Rogan 39:57 I have to tell you this.

Charlamagne tha God 39:58 Right.

Andrew Schulz 39:58 When I was, when I was starting out as a comic and I was... You know, it was rough in New York and motherfuckers were just dickheads to you.

Joe Rogan 40:03 Sure.

Andrew Schulz 40:03 They used to carry a, a list of people who were pieces of shit-

Joe Rogan 40:07 You had a list? (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 40:07 ... in my wallet (laughs) of all the people I was gonna say, "Fuck you too," when I passed them. And as I would start to pass them, I felt zero, I felt zero anger.

Joe Rogan 40:17 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 40:17 I, I almost started to feel bad.

Charlamagne tha God 40:19 Yeah, I don't have anger-

Andrew Schulz 40:19 I was like, "Oh shit, you're still in the same place."

Charlamagne tha God 40:21 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 40:21 "That's why you were a dick to me 'cause-"

Joe Rogan 40:22 Right.

Andrew Schulz 40:23 "... I was all you had to be a dick to."

Joe Rogan 40:24 Well, that's the type of person that is a dick to someone who's coming up. The person who's like, they're f- that's famine mentality.

Andrew Schulz 40:30 Yes.

Charlamagne tha God 40:30 Mm.

Joe Rogan 40:30 You think there's not enough.

Andrew Schulz 40:32 Yes.

Joe Rogan 40:32 So you try to keep people away. "Get away, get away." Whereas the people that don't have famine mentality are like, "Come on, come on."

Andrew Schulz 40:37 "Come on, let's do it."

Joe Rogan 40:38 "There's plenty for everybody."

Andrew Schulz 40:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:39 There's plenty for everybody."

Charlamagne tha God 40:41 I don't have... I don't have anger. Like, if you... Like, I've been fired four times from radio. You know what I'm saying? So I, I'm not angry at the people that fired me. But the people who told me things like, like there was a guy named DJ Kaz in Charleston, South Carolina who told me I would n- pr... When I, my first time I got fired, he told me I would never work in radio again 'cause I was an asshole.

Joe Rogan 40:55 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 40:55 And then, you know, Boogie D told me, "This is why you'll never make it in radio." So those two individuals just need to be reminded.

Andrew Schulz 41:02 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:03 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 41:04 (laughs) That's it. People need to know that they made those calls. Wouldn't you like to know the person that cut Michael Jordan from the basketball team in high school?

Joe Rogan 41:13 Yes, yes.

Charlamagne tha God 41:13 (laughs) Wouldn't you like to know the person that didn't hire Oprah as a newscaster back in the day?

Joe Rogan 41:17 Yes.

Charlamagne tha God 41:17 Wouldn't you like to know these people? I just wanna know these people.

Joe Rogan 41:20 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 41:20 And by the way, I've had other executives in radio, you know, like, salute to my guy, Doc Winters. Doc Winters told me that one person in particular he would never hire because they fired me (laughs) and couldn't give him a reason why.

Joe Rogan 41:33 Ah.

Charlamagne tha God 41:33 When he asked them why, he was like, "Oh, I just did- I just, I didn't, just didn't like what he was doing." So he was like, "I'll never hire that person." So-That's why certain people need to be told-

Joe Rogan 41:42 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 41:42 ... and reminded about the dumbass decisions they made.

Andrew Schulz 41:44 You hold grudges.

41:45 Oh, dude, like a psychopath.

41:46 You hold some strong grudges in your heart.

41:47 Like a psychopath. It's great. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:48 But that, you know the difference is also that you get hired for these jobs and you can get fired by these assholes.

Charlamagne tha God 41:54 Yes.

Joe Rogan 41:54 And there's always that weird power play between producers and executives. It happens with television shows and networks, and it happens with radio. It happens... It's, it's, it's a power play.

Andrew Schulz 42:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:03 The thing about comedy is like, you know, you just work at a different club. There's no real... The only... I mean, there's a little weird struggle between you and the other comedians, but there's no weir- real struggle between you and the club owners. You go in there, you sell out, you kill, and you're friendly to everybody.

Charlamagne tha God 42:15 It's all an act.

Joe Rogan 42:15 They don't give a fuck.

Charlamagne tha God 42:16 100%.

Andrew Schulz 42:16 They do not-

Joe Rogan 42:16 They're like, "Thank you. Here's your money."

Andrew Schulz 42:18 Bro, they do not fucking care.

Joe Rogan 42:19 "Congratulations."

Andrew Schulz 42:19 And it doesn't matter how much of a diva you are. Everybody knows this story in comedy. Eddie Griffin, you know Eddie Griffin the writer?

Joe Rogan 42:26 Sure.

Andrew Schulz 42:26 Eddie Griffin is the best writer in comedy.

Joe Rogan 42:27 I didn't know he has a writer.

Andrew Schulz 42:28 Oh, you mean-

Joe Rogan 42:29 When did he get a writer?

Andrew Schulz 42:29 Oh, he's had it forever.

Joe Rogan 42:30 All right.

Andrew Schulz 42:30 Forever.

Charlamagne tha God 42:30 I didn't know he had a writer.

Andrew Schulz 42:31 He... A writ- no, a rider mean, like, the thing that-

Joe Rogan 42:33 Oh, rider.

Charlamagne tha God 42:34 Oh, writer.

Andrew Schulz 42:34 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 42:34 You talk about me pronouncing shit wrong. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:36 Yeah. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 42:36 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 42:36 I thought you were talking about-

Joe Rogan 42:38 You said writer.

Charlamagne tha God 42:38 I thought you were talking about a fucking ghost writer. I was like, "Eddie got a ghost..." You know what I thought?

Andrew Schulz 42:41 (laughs)

42:41 Yeah. He's had a writer forever.

Joe Rogan 42:42 Eddie writes his shit. Eddie can go, man. Eddie's, Eddie's great.

Andrew Schulz 42:45 So, but apparently, his, his rider, which means, like, the shit that's in the green room-

Joe Rogan 42:48 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 42:49 ... and he needs a brand new pair of Air Force 1s for every show.

Joe Rogan 42:53 A lot of people do that.

Andrew Schulz 42:54 What?

Joe Rogan 42:55 Yeah. Yeah, a lot of people have, like, sneaker riders.

Andrew Schulz 42:58 Wait a minute.

Joe Rogan 42:59 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 42:59 I'm fucking up-

Joe Rogan 43:00 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 43:00 ... because I haven't asked for anything but water.

Charlamagne tha God 43:02 You would think sneakers are the most important thing in standup, right? Like, you need a comfortable-

Andrew Schulz 43:05 (laughs)

43:06 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 43:06 ... fucking shoe, right? When you're on that stage. It's something-

Andrew Schulz 43:08 Hold on. There are more than just... Eddie has-

Joe Rogan 43:10 Yeah. Yeah, some guys have it where they want a fresh pair, size 11s, whatever they wear, right there so they, they get to the... But they never want to wear them at all until right when they get on stage.

Andrew Schulz 43:20 That's it?

Joe Rogan 43:21 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 43:21 What's in your rider?

Joe Rogan 43:22 I have, like, Jack Daniels, wine, meat, um, water...

Andrew Schulz 43:29 Simple.

Joe Rogan 43:29 ... sugar-free Red Bull.

Charlamagne tha God 43:30 What kind of meat? You're not specific with the meat?

Joe Rogan 43:32 No, like, like, meat plates, like roast beef and shit like that.

Charlamagne tha God 43:35 Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

Joe Rogan 43:35 Just something so I don't eat garbage.

Andrew Schulz 43:37 Right.

Joe Rogan 43:37 You know?

Andrew Schulz 43:38 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:39 Stuff like that. Nothing, nuts, macadamia nuts and pistachios. Normal shit.

Andrew Schulz 43:43 Red M&Ms.

43:44 Yeah, only if it gets specific.

43:45 Only green ones. (laughs)

43:47 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:47 Pick out the green ones.

Charlamagne tha God 43:48 That i- I mean, that i- what, what you're saying about standup is the beauty of independence, though, right?

Joe Rogan 43:52 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 43:52 Ugh, dude.

Charlamagne tha God 43:53 That's why, that's why everybody who gets Me Tooed runs to the standup stage afterwards, because the c- the c- the comedy clubs still accept them.

Joe Rogan 43:58 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 43:58 Sean, they were saying... Did you see that tweet? I thought, maybe it was Roy, uh, maybe it was... I forget, Roy Wood or something like that. And he was like, "OJ will be doing standup in three months."

44:06 – 51:05

OJ on Twitter, fame as currency, and people attracted to dangerous men

Joe Rogan 44:06 Dude, do you watch those videos?

Charlamagne tha God 44:07 No.

Andrew Schulz 44:08 It's amazing.

Charlamagne tha God 44:08 And why do you? Why do we entertain that shit?

Andrew Schulz 44:10 You love it.

Joe Rogan 44:11 Fascinating.

Andrew Schulz 44:11 Oh, you love it, dude.

Joe Rogan 44:13 Fascinating.

Charlamagne tha God 44:13 Until-

Joe Rogan 44:13 "Hello, Twitter world."

Andrew Schulz 44:15 (laughs)

44:15 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 44:15 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 44:15 (laughs) "There's a lot of BS out there." Up until now?

Charlamagne tha God 44:19 First of all, that video, it pisses me off that he does videos on Twitter. Take that shit to Instagram.

Andrew Schulz 44:23 He doesn't know. He does, he thinks Twitter is that.

Charlamagne tha God 44:26 Just go to fucking Snapchat.

Andrew Schulz 44:26 That's what he thinks.

Joe Rogan 44:27 Ugh. He's holding his reading glasses in his hand. I mean, he's going blind. He's 71 years old.

Andrew Schulz 44:31 You could-

Joe Rogan 44:32 Did you see the, the DM he sent that dude?

Charlamagne tha God 44:34 Amazing.

Joe Rogan 44:35 With all the knives.

Charlamagne tha God 44:35 All the knife emojis.

Andrew Schulz 44:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 44:36 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 44:36 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 44:36 But yo, you understand that was strategic, right? He sent that on Monday, Monday was the 25th anniversary of the fucking Bronco chase. So you think that he didn't just wanna be in the news? Like, that was, uh, that was, that was a strategic move.

Joe Rogan 44:48 I don't think he's that smart. I think what's going on is he's reacting to someone fucking with him, and he, he doesn't, he doesn't know how to just let shit slide. So somebody makes a parody video where he's doing his Twitter, you know, he says, "Hello, Twitter world." And then someone's got, "Help, police," in the background.

Charlamagne tha God 45:03 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 45:04 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 45:04 That's what they did. So he gets mad, and he DMs that person who made that video, "I'm gonna cut you." I don't think... I think he just-

Andrew Schulz 45:10 He said, "I'm gonna cut you."

Joe Rogan 45:11 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He s-

Charlamagne tha God 45:12 I think that was strategic, man.

Joe Rogan 45:13 I don't think so.

Charlamagne tha God 45:13 I, I think he knew it was the 25th anniversary of the Bronco chase. And OJ's only relevance is the fact that he got away with murder, so he has to remind us of that fact all the time in order for us to give a fuck.

Joe Rogan 45:25 Mm. Did you ever see the videos he did when he was doing rap, when he was dressing up like a king?

Andrew Schulz 45:28 In Miami?

Joe Rogan 45:29 Yeah. It was... (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 45:31 He dressed up like a rapper?

Joe Rogan 45:32 Yeah, he was doing rap.

Andrew Schulz 45:32 Oh, you haven't seen... He had music.

Joe Rogan 45:33 You didn't know?

Charlamagne tha God 45:34 No.

Joe Rogan 45:34 Though he had... Jamie?

Andrew Schulz 45:36 Well, yeah, all right.

Joe Rogan 45:36 We can't, we can't play it, right?

Andrew Schulz 45:37 Can't play that.

Joe Rogan 45:37 We'll get pulled off of YouTube.

Andrew Schulz 45:38 Real quick, that stuff was fake, that DM stuff.

Charlamagne tha God 45:41 What stuff?

Andrew Schulz 45:41 That DM stuff was fake.

Joe Rogan 45:42 Oh, it was fake?

Andrew Schulz 45:42 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:42 Aah.

Andrew Schulz 45:42 So the guy lied?

45:43 Fuck.

45:43 Yeah, so I, I listened to Jim and Sam yesterday. They actually, like, broke it down instantly. Uh, he made a fake account with, like... It, uh, it was The Real OJ. He just made the L a capital I.

45:53 Oh.

Joe Rogan 45:54 Oh.

Andrew Schulz 45:54 And that just, just shit, tricked everybody.

Charlamagne tha God 45:56 I gave him Donkey of the Day for no fucking reason.

Andrew Schulz 45:58 God damn. (laughs)

46:00 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 46:00 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 46:00 Look at you, man. (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 46:01 I'm g- No, I'm mad. I'm glad, though. I'm glad he's not that stupid.

Joe Rogan 46:04 Right.

Charlamagne tha God 46:04 Because Donkey of the Day is a segment I do on The Breakfast Club where I give somebody the credit they deserve for being stupid. I'm like, "Yo, you can't be that stupid-

Joe Rogan 46:09 Right.

Charlamagne tha God 46:09 ... and that thirsty for attention, OJ."

Joe Rogan 46:11 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 46:12 So, so it's kind of, it's kind of a, a relief that he's not that thirsty.

Joe Rogan 46:15 This is OJ when he was doing rap music.

Charlamagne tha God 46:17 All right. Well, no.

Andrew Schulz 46:18 But we can't-

Charlamagne tha God 46:18 N- Now he is thirsty.

Joe Rogan 46:19 Yeah, well, we can't play the music, but he had girls out there dancing around in their underwear and OJ was rapping. Didn't he have, like, a crown on or something? There he is.

Andrew Schulz 46:26 He's dressed up in, like, white face and all sorts of things. There's naked girls in it.

Joe Rogan 46:30 Oh, God.

Charlamagne tha God 46:30 You don't think OJ been riding a wave of killing these two people for too long, bro?

Joe Rogan 46:33 Well, crazy bitches will still fuck him. I guarantee you.

Andrew Schulz 46:35 Bro, it is insane. I don't understand this, this, this part of women at all. Like, the women that, like, meet people in jail and then they'll, like, get married to them in jail.

Joe Rogan 46:44 Oh, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 46:45 Like, what is this about?

Joe Rogan 46:46 It's-

Charlamagne tha God 46:46 They're thinking about that jail dick when they come home. That jail dick has been-

Joe Rogan 46:49 Some of those guys never get to give them that jail dick. They're in jail forever.

Charlamagne tha God 46:52 That is true.

Joe Rogan 46:53 And they get no conjugal visits, and they still want to marry them.

Andrew Schulz 46:55 But why?

Joe Rogan 46:55 Women are attracted to killers.

Andrew Schulz 46:57 So they want killers?

Joe Rogan 46:59 They want killers, and specifically they want killers that kill women.

Andrew Schulz 47:03 What?

Joe Rogan 47:03 Yeah, there's a, that's a thing with some women, with really fucked up women. They, they're attracted to men who kill women.

Charlamagne tha God 47:11 Goddamn. What happens to the girls that just want to get choked?

Andrew Schulz 47:13 Ugh. (laughs)

47:13 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:14 No.

Charlamagne tha God 47:14 Why d- Why, why you gotta go, why you gotta go to that extreme? (laughs) What, what's wrong with-

Joe Rogan 47:18 She wants to go spankin'.

Charlamagne tha God 47:18 That's all?

Joe Rogan 47:19 Just spankin' and chokin'.

Andrew Schulz 47:20 Do you think, do you think all the choking and spanking-

Charlamagne tha God 47:22 I've been out of the game that long.

Andrew Schulz 47:23 ... and, like, you know how, like, some girls have, like, rape fantasies-

Charlamagne tha God 47:25 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 47:25 ... and shit like that? Do you think that's all because men have just become such pussies, they wanna see if they have the ability to even do it?

Joe Rogan 47:34 No, I think some girls have this primal need to know that you can kill them.

Andrew Schulz 47:38 What? (laughs)

47:39 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 47:39 But don't they know that?

Joe Rogan 47:40 This thing turns them on.

Andrew Schulz 47:41 Not kill them- Not kill them? ... turns around to protect them-

Joe Rogan 47:42 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 47:42 ... right?

Joe Rogan 47:43 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 47:43 Isn't it protect them?

Joe Rogan 47:44 Protect them-

Andrew Schulz 47:44 It's not kill them.

Joe Rogan 47:45 Yeah, for sure.

Andrew Schulz 47:46 It's-

Joe Rogan 47:46 But they wanna know you could kill them, not that you're going to.

Andrew Schulz 47:49 Kill them or kill someone else trying to get them?

Joe Rogan 47:51 Yes, kill them even. That f- that hand on your neck-

Andrew Schulz 47:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:53 ... where they're choking you-

Andrew Schulz 47:53 What?

Joe Rogan 47:53 ... they wanna be, like, close to the door of you doing something violent with them while you're fucking them so it feels good while you got control over their life. You really have, like, you're holding their neck and you're controlling their life.

Andrew Schulz 48:04 Jesus Christ. All right, yo, so why do we-

Joe Rogan 48:05 (laughs) Look at your face. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 48:07 Dude. But, like-

Joe Rogan 48:08 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 48:09 ... you know all these dudes that, like, jerk off with, like, a belt on their neck and shit like that?

Joe Rogan 48:12 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 48:12 And we call them weirdos? That's just women.

Joe Rogan 48:14 But that's different. Yeah, but that's different. There's... That's autoerotic asphyxiation. They're doing that-

Andrew Schulz 48:17 Well, but it's choking a bitch.

Charlamagne tha God 48:18 That's what choking is, too, though.

Joe Rogan 48:19 It is, but I think the choking is you're doing it... A man is doing it to you. It's not just that you're running outta oxygen because someone's squeezing the blood outta your brain-

Andrew Schulz 48:27 Right.

Joe Rogan 48:27 ... but it's also that someone's doing it to you while you're... while they're fucking you.

Andrew Schulz 48:31 Yo, do you guys go for the whole choke? 'Cause what I do is I, like, put my hand there, and then I kinda just tense my forearm, but I don't really squeeze the fingers.

Joe Rogan 48:38 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 48:39 'Cause I want, uh... You know, 'cause it's made to really choke someone. My wife doesn't play like that. She won't let me do that. She wants the whole choke?

Joe Rogan 48:43 No, she doesn't like that.

Andrew Schulz 48:44 Oh, she doesn't like that?

Joe Rogan 48:45 She doesn't like a choke. Yeah. I don't think you can-

Andrew Schulz 48:46 'Cause she knows you could do it.

Joe Rogan 48:47 Well, it's not just that. It's like th-

Andrew Schulz 48:48 She sees you choke people out regularly.

Joe Rogan 48:50 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 48:50 She knows you're capable.

Joe Rogan 48:51 But the kinda girl that wants you to choke her like that, I think you should leave that one alone.

Andrew Schulz 48:55 Dude.

Charlamagne tha God 48:55 My wife likes a little choking. But I mean-

Joe Rogan 48:57 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 48:57 ... we've got... As, as we've gotten older, all of that stuff has kinda, like, subsided.

Joe Rogan 49:00 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 49:00 But she used to like a lot of choking when we were young.

Joe Rogan 49:02 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 49:02 We've been together 22 years, though.

Joe Rogan 49:03 Yeah, you wanna play and mix it up.

Charlamagne tha God 49:04 Me, as a gentleman, she likes it or not. She's like... (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 49:09 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:09 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 49:09 But I do it. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:10 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 49:12 It's not for us.

Joe Rogan 49:13 Yeah, I'm telling you.

Andrew Schulz 49:13 It's for you. It's happening to you.

Joe Rogan 49:14 Some girls love it, man. Some girls love it.

Andrew Schulz 49:15 They do. But I think it's really because they see men as, as pathetic now. They see men as babies. And the more pathetic and, like, cucked up a guy is, they're like, "Okay, choke me, slap me around. Show me that you have some testosterone. Show me you have some sort of strength."

Charlamagne tha God 49:27 Yeah, but that don't mean you gotta go give OJ some pussy, though. Oh, my God. Jesus Christ.

Joe Rogan 49:30 That's true. That's true. Well, that's like-

Andrew Schulz 49:31 You think they're asking OJ to choke them?

Joe Rogan 49:32 Richard Ramirez-

Charlamagne tha God 49:33 No, no.

Joe Rogan 49:33 ... used to have girls visiting him. Manson that was married when he died. A lot of-

Andrew Schulz 49:37 Yeah, but Manson had charm. He must've had something.

Charlamagne tha God 49:39 No.

Andrew Schulz 49:39 He must've had something.

Charlamagne tha God 49:40 All of those guys had fame. Fame has always been an attraction for people.

Andrew Schulz 49:43 But he wasn't famous in the beginning when he was getting people to do all that wild shit. He was pissing.

Charlamagne tha God 49:48 Manson?

Andrew Schulz 49:48 Man, but... Manson, right?

Joe Rogan 49:49 Well, he wasn't famous, but he was a cult leader, so, right? So, he was the leader of a small group, so he was infamous, infamous amongst that group of people.

Andrew Schulz 49:57 But you gotta at least turn a couple people to turn it into a cult.

Charlamagne tha God 49:59 Yeah, but that-

Andrew Schulz 49:59 Like, eventually it becomes part of it, but-

Charlamagne tha God 50:02 Yeah, but that... When you look at social media, you realize that ain't really shit, right? It ain't really shit to have a following. You know what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 50:07 Right.

Charlamagne tha God 50:07 500 followers on social media is pathetic, right?

Joe Rogan 50:10 Right.

Charlamagne tha God 50:10 But 500 in real life- (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 50:12 Yo.

Joe Rogan 50:13 You the man.

Charlamagne tha God 50:13 ... and you Jim, you Jim Jones, it's like, "Wow."

Andrew Schulz 50:14 Especially in '67.

Charlamagne tha God 50:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:16 You know?

Charlamagne tha God 50:16 Man, you get 10 people to f-... You get 10 people to kill they self in '67?

Andrew Schulz 50:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:21 Right.

Charlamagne tha God 50:21 Oh, my God.

Andrew Schulz 50:22 Shit, man. Some people can't get 10 people to a comedy show.

Charlamagne tha God 50:24 That's what I'm saying. That's a different-

Andrew Schulz 50:26 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 50:26 That's a different kind of captive audience.

Joe Rogan 50:27 So-

Andrew Schulz 50:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:28 You would im... And know, like, you gotta fax them. Like, there's no organization. Everything has to happen in real life. Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 50:34 Yeah, what was that speech like? That's... We don't... What was- He must've- What was the speech when he made everybody drink the Kool-Aid?

Joe Rogan 50:38 Bro, let me tell you something-

Andrew Schulz 50:39 He had to have some balls, right?

Joe Rogan 50:40 I don't think they knew.

Andrew Schulz 50:41 He had... That must've been-

Joe Rogan 50:42 Did they know they were drinking that... It wasn't even Kool-Aid. You know, Kool-Aid took a bad rap. It was some, like, cheap Costco brand.

Andrew Schulz 50:48 Was... Kool-Aid existed even back then?

Joe Rogan 50:49 I think Kool-Aid existed, so-

Andrew Schulz 50:51 So, they went with the generic to kill them? They didn't even splurge?

Joe Rogan 50:54 They went with some bullshit Kool-Aid.

Charlamagne tha God 50:54 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:54 It's like they didn't have enough money for all Kool-Aid. They just gave people some... (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 50:57 Hey, whatever the fuck they drink, they serving it in the Dominican Republic at resorts right now back there. All right? Whatever-

Andrew Schulz 51:02 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:03 Cocktail and sandals. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 51:05 (laughs)

51:05 – 53:14

Dominican Republic resort deaths + the ‘people chase danger’ phenomenon

Joe Rogan 51:05 What the fuck is happening in the Dominican Republic?

Charlamagne tha God 51:07 I don't know.

Joe Rogan 51:07 Wait, wait. What happened? All these people are dying.

Andrew Schulz 51:09 Well, they sh- tried to get at Big Papi.

Charlamagne tha God 51:12 No, man.

Andrew Schulz 51:12 No, no, no. This is a different thing.

Charlamagne tha God 51:13 People are dying at resorts.

Joe Rogan 51:14 That d- that was an assassination attempt.

Andrew Schulz 51:16 Hold on.

Joe Rogan 51:16 People are dying at these resorts. They're, they're... Listen.

Charlamagne tha God 51:18 Yes.

Joe Rogan 51:18 All these Americans that are being poisoned. One lady got r- beaten to death and raped. She didn't get beaten to death, but, like, beaten half to de-... She survived, but, like, her whole head was just a big swollen mass of-

Charlamagne tha God 51:28 Yeah?

Joe Rogan 51:28 ... blood and injuries.

Andrew Schulz 51:29 Yeah. (laughs) Every day it's in the store.

Joe Rogan 51:30 Some guy who worked at the... worked at this resort. She saw him wearing... At least he was wearing an outfit. Clubbed her over the head, and did all kinds of crazy shit to her, and left her for dead.

Andrew Schulz 51:40 (exhales)

Charlamagne tha God 51:40 Did... I read a story today. It was a group of high school kids who went to the DR of... Celebrating graduation or whatever. All of them ended up in the hospital, and nobody knows why this shit is happening. Nine people have died at these resorts and nobody knows why.

Joe Rogan 51:52 And a lot of them are dying from pulmonary edema and heart failure.

Andrew Schulz 51:56 What is that?

Joe Rogan 51:56 It's, like, some blood issue, and they're drinking things from the minibar and fucking croaking.

Charlamagne tha God 52:00 From the minibar. Yes.

Andrew Schulz 52:02 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:02 What? That's-

Charlamagne tha God 52:02 You didn't hear about that shit?

Andrew Schulz 52:03 No.

Joe Rogan 52:04 You didn't hear about this?

Charlamagne tha God 52:04 Oh, yeah. They gonna be building a wall around DR in a minute.

Joe Rogan 52:06 What is the number-

Andrew Schulz 52:07 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:08 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 52:08 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:08 ... what is the number of people that have died over there now?

Andrew Schulz 52:11 Wait a minute.

Joe Rogan 52:11 It's like seven-

Charlamagne tha God 52:12 Nine.

Joe Rogan 52:12 Nine?

Charlamagne tha God 52:13 Nine.

Joe Rogan 52:13 Jesus Christ.

Charlamagne tha God 52:13 Nine as of yesterday.

Andrew Schulz 52:14 And it's happening in the resorts, the safe spots?

Joe Rogan 52:17 Yeah, it's happening in the resorts.

Andrew Schulz 52:17 Get the fuck outta there.

Charlamagne tha God 52:18 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:19 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 52:20 Hold on.

Charlamagne tha God 52:20 DR's awful.

Andrew Schulz 52:21 We gotta go to DR.

Charlamagne tha God 52:22 For what?

Joe Rogan 52:23 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 52:23 D- what? We gotta hunt. That's hunting right there.

Joe Rogan 52:26 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 52:26 W- let's get into it. This is a... This is... Let's get to the bottom of it.

Charlamagne tha God 52:30 What, you wanna hurt people?

Andrew Schulz 52:30 You really wanna do some nature shit, Joe? Dude. (laughs) You wanna go do some nature shit? Let's go hunt some rapists in the DR.

Joe Rogan 52:35 I wonder what's happening. I don't think it's just rape. I think-

Charlamagne tha God 52:37 Nah, not just rapes. People dying from drinking-

Joe Rogan 52:39 People just killing people.

Charlamagne tha God 52:39 ... they, they said they're drinking at these minibars and drinking at these bars. And, like, they've been testing the alcohol, and it's, like, fake alcohol or some shit like that. I don't know what the fuck is going on. I just know nine people have died.

Andrew Schulz 52:49 Yeah, I'm not going.

Charlamagne tha God 52:50 Nah.

Joe Rogan 52:50 Yeah, I'm not going.

Andrew Schulz 52:51 Yeah, you can't tell... You shouldn't-

Charlamagne tha God 52:52 That's all it takes.

Joe Rogan 52:53 All it takes is nine people gone, it'll fuck up your whole tourist economy.

Charlamagne tha God 52:56 D- d- you would think.

Joe Rogan 52:57 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 52:58 But we live in this era where people are like, "Oh, shit, let's go over there and see if we can survive the DR." Like, it's become like a fucking game almost.

Joe Rogan 53:05 Yeah. Well-

Andrew Schulz 53:07 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:07 Yeah. Well, that's why when anybody dies of a cocaine overdose, everybody wants the shit that they died from.

Charlamagne tha God 53:11 Ah, that's old school.

Joe Rogan 53:12 Right?

Andrew Schulz 53:13 Where you want the good shit.

Joe Rogan 53:14 Yeah, you want the shit they died from.

53:14 – 55:55

Drugs stories: fake-sniffing coke, coca tea, MDMA crashes, and Burning Man feelings

Andrew Schulz 53:14 You ever do coke?

Joe Rogan 53:15 No. Never. Never done it.

Andrew Schulz 53:17 You ever do coke?

Charlamagne tha God 53:18 I've fake sniffed coke once. I smoked it in a blunt with some weed-

Andrew Schulz 53:21 Okay.

Charlamagne tha God 53:21 ... back in the day, but I f- I fake sniffed it. Like-

Andrew Schulz 53:23 Fake sniffed?

Charlamagne tha God 53:23 It was like, the lines were on the table, and I just wanted to make the people that I was around feel comfortable, almost like on some Training Day shit.

Joe Rogan 53:28 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 53:28 'Cause I didn't want them to think I was, like, an undercover cop or anything.

Joe Rogan 53:31 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 53:31 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 53:31 So, I motherfucking... You just do like this.

Joe Rogan 53:33 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 53:34 And you knock it off.

Joe Rogan 53:34 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 53:35 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 53:35 And just make sure you get a little on your face, and then you just go, "Whoo!"

Andrew Schulz 53:38 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:39 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 53:39 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 53:39 And everybody's high, so it's not like they really fucking notice.

Andrew Schulz 53:41 Wait, do Black dudes say "whoo" after doing coke too?

Charlamagne tha God 53:43 I don't know. I did. (laughs) I thought that's what, I just thought that's what you did after you fucking sniffed the line.

Andrew Schulz 53:47 'Cause people watch white people movies-

Joe Rogan 53:49 Every movie I saw-

Charlamagne tha God 53:49 ... and saw Ric Flair.

Andrew Schulz 53:50 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 53:50 Every movie I saw, they let out a goddamn Ric Flair whoo.

Joe Rogan 53:54 I've had that tea, that mata de coco tea. It's like tea made out of coca leaves.... yeah. And it goes-

Andrew Schulz 54:00 And it goes?

Joe Rogan 54:00 Yeah. Apparently, the leaves, if you just chew them, are actually good for you.

Andrew Schulz 54:04 Really?

Joe Rogan 54:04 They have phytonutrients. It's like cup- it's like a cup of coffee.

Andrew Schulz 54:07 Okay.

Joe Rogan 54:07 It's like... But it's healthy. It's actually good for you.

Andrew Schulz 54:10 All right.

Joe Rogan 54:10 Like, tho- those high, those high-altitude herders, they put a big wad of that shit in their mouth. They chew on it, and then the... It releases into their bloodstream, and it's actually healthy. It's not bad for you. It's when they process it and turn it into cocaine that it's bad.

Andrew Schulz 54:22 That's when it gets fucked up.

Joe Rogan 54:23 What I've had is coca leaves in a tea form, so you just take the- the leaves, and it's, like, in a tea bag, and you drink the tea. It just makes you kinda, like, hyper, and you talk too much.

Charlamagne tha God 54:32 I'm not gonna lie. When I smoked that cocaine with that weed by accident, that was the best high I've ever had in my motherfucking life.

Andrew Schulz 54:38 Really?

Charlamagne tha God 54:39 Yes. I used to always say I would do it again by accident if it was offered to me.

Andrew Schulz 54:43 (laughs) By accident on purpose. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 54:45 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 54:45 (laughs) But, but I think I'm too old for that shit now. But back then, my God, I remember that high like it was yesterday.

Andrew Schulz 54:50 Why? What did it feel like?

Charlamagne tha God 54:52 Like he said, you- you- you just feel, like, very alive. Like, you feel aware.

Andrew Schulz 54:56 Yeah.

Charlamagne tha God 54:56 Like, everything just seems bright, even when it's dark out. And it's just, like, you feel like you're actually on top of something.

Andrew Schulz 55:03 Right.

Charlamagne tha God 55:03 It's just like, you just feel mad hyper. But when you crash, you crash.

Joe Rogan 55:07 Game over.

Charlamagne tha God 55:08 When you crash, it's over with.

Andrew Schulz 55:09 You guys ever try molly?

Joe Rogan 55:10 I crash. Yeah. Well, I've tried MDMA.

Charlamagne tha God 55:12 I never done molly.

Andrew Schulz 55:12 MDMA, yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:13 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 55:13 Yeah, same shit. It was, uh-

Joe Rogan 55:14 Only once, though.

Andrew Schulz 55:15 Y- you like it or no?

Joe Rogan 55:16 I loved the feeling when I was on it. I did not like... The next day, I couldn't read.

Andrew Schulz 55:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:21 I was trying to read a magazine-

Andrew Schulz 55:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:22 ... and I couldn't read.

Andrew Schulz 55:23 Really?

Charlamagne tha God 55:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:23 I was like, "I just can't..." I couldn't follow it.

Andrew Schulz 55:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:26 My brain was so dried out.

Andrew Schulz 55:27 Just shut down.

Joe Rogan 55:28 Just, it was just dead. And then I went on stage that night and ate shit.

Andrew Schulz 55:31 Yeah, 'cause you... The synapses aren't firing, nothing.

Joe Rogan 55:33 I was slow and sloppy. My- my delivery was off.

Charlamagne tha God 55:36 Fucked up, 'cause when you said, "Ate shit," I thought literally. I was like, "Well, I can't wait to hear this story."

Andrew Schulz 55:40 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:40 (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 55:40 (laughs) I was like, "What you..." I was like, you started reaching in your fucking pants and then pulling out shit. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:44 I lost my mind. (laughs)

Charlamagne tha God 55:46 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 55:46 (laughs) Dude, so, uh-

Joe Rogan 55:47 So, uh, I bombed.

Andrew Schulz 55:48 ... I've been going to Burning Man the last few years, right?

Joe Rogan 55:50 Really?

Andrew Schulz 55:50 And, uh, yeah. Last three years, I've been going. And-

Joe Rogan 55:52 Gotta get that hippie pussy.

Andrew Schulz 55:53 Bro, dude, it's not even really, like... For

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