Joe Rogan Experience #1321 - Robert Oberst

Joe Rogan 0:00 And... (clears throat) Boom, and we're live. What's happening, baby?

Robert Oberst 0:06 What's up, Joe?

Joe Rogan 0:06 How are you, brother?

Robert Oberst 0:07 I'm feeling great, man. Thanks for having me.

Joe Rogan 0:09 You're looking great.

Robert Oberst 0:10 Thanks, brother.

Joe Rogan 0:10 You're looking rather large.

Robert Oberst 0:11 I, I threatened Joe before the show, I said, "You need to start off and tell me how beautiful I am."

Joe Rogan 0:15 Strong and pretty.

Robert Oberst 0:16 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:17 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 0:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:18 What? Is that your T-shirt company?

Robert Oberst 0:20 Yeah, that's my clothing company. It's, uh, all through Bunker Branding, and basically that's, that's basically where it's been.

Joe Rogan 0:24 Ke- try to keep this like a, a fist from your face.

Robert Oberst 0:27 There we go.

Joe Rogan 0:27 There we go.

Robert Oberst 0:27 I'm just afraid everyone's gonna hear me breathe like a fat guy, like (breathing heavily) .

Joe Rogan 0:32 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 0:32 You know?

Joe Rogan 0:32 How much... D- do you do any cardio?

Robert Oberst 0:34 I do. Most definitely.

Joe Rogan 0:35 Yeah?

Robert Oberst 0:35 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:35 Yeah?

Robert Oberst 0:36 The... If you watch Strongman on, on ESPN?

Joe Rogan 0:38 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 0:38 So, like, when you pull a truck that's 70,000 pounds, you pull it for 100 feet-

Joe Rogan 0:43 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 0:43 ... with a harness restraining your chest, like a, like a... Not expulsion, but your chest expansion.

Joe Rogan 0:48 Mm-hmm.

Robert Oberst 0:49 It's... That's, that's the, the hardest cardio I've ever done, and I played football for a long time, so I mean, it's tough.

Joe Rogan 0:54 Yo, I can only imagine.

Robert Oberst 0:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:55 But I was, I was thinking that, like, you have to have some cardiovascular strength to do some of those routines. Some of the, some of the different challenges that you guys have to do.

Robert Oberst 1:02 For sure. And normally, like, worlds will start with, like, what we call a load medley. So you'll have, uh, normally, like, four implements. Like, you'll have two kegs and two sandbags, and the kegs will both weigh 265 pounds and the sandbags will be 330. That's what we did last year, which was fucking brutal. But, um, you'll have to load each one of 'em onto a platform that's about 60 feet away. So-

Joe Rogan 1:25 Whoa.

Robert Oberst 1:25 ... you know, if, if you get going, you... It's not just cardio. You have to have diaphragm strength too. Like, if you've got a weak diaphragm, you're just gonna fold. I've seen guys black out on... And I've seen guys black out at World's Strongest Man, so.

Joe Rogan 1:37 So what does... How does, uh, how does one strengthen their diaphragm?

Robert Oberst 1:41 Um, what we do... (sighs) The normal exercise we did, um, it doesn't really have a name, it's just kinda something we made up. You'll lay on your back and you take, like, a sandbag and put it over, over your, uh, your upper abdomen, and you'll expand, you'll push out really hard, and, um, you try and hold it for, like, say, say, like, two minutes. And you learn to take tight little breaths while flexing your upper, upper abdomina- abdominals.

Joe Rogan 2:06 Whoa.

Robert Oberst 2:07 I can spoke. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:09 (laughs) So you've got the weight on you.

Robert Oberst 2:10 Right.

Joe Rogan 2:11 And you just (breathing heavily) .

Robert Oberst 2:13 Yeah. And you stay flexed. And it's, it's, like, you know how you see fighters taking punches, like, just to-

Joe Rogan 2:18 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 2:18 ... keep tight?

Joe Rogan 2:19 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 2:19 Same, similar thing. And so like me, I, I, I have a big barrel gut, like a big chest and gut, but, like, it's solid. I literally get... Like, I'll brag a little bit. I've got side abs in the morning sometimes, you know?

Joe Rogan 2:30 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 2:31 Actually, I gotta say this. I... The best compliment I was ever given, I put up a post and it was me drinking coffee in the morning, just naked, but, like, from, like, the hip up, and somebody gave me a compliment that's actually comes from something you said. They said, "Damn, Robert's got a really good dick root." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:49 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 2:50 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:50 I think I invented dick root. Dick root is when those dudes... Well, I don't understand why dudes do that. They wear their shorts so low that you basically see the top of their cock.

Robert Oberst 3:00 Right.

Joe Rogan 3:00 You see the root.

Robert Oberst 3:01 They've got nothing else to show, so, like-

Joe Rogan 3:02 But that's a weird, weird move.

Jamie Vernon 3:04 If you Google dick root, that's all it comes up, is you, you talking about-

Robert Oberst 3:06 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:06 Just me?

Jamie Vernon 3:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:07 I think I invented it.

Robert Oberst 3:08 I, I appreciate it. It was a very nice compliment.

Joe Rogan 3:11 Congrats on the dick root, bro. (laughs)

Robert Oberst 3:15 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:15 It's just a weird thing that go-

Robert Oberst 3:17 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 3:17 I mean, when did guys start doing... I get girls doing it. I get it.

Robert Oberst 3:20 Right.

Joe Rogan 3:20 I just don't get guys pulling their shorts all the way down low like that.

Robert Oberst 3:24 No. No.

Joe Rogan 3:24 It's just, like, seems like you're just asking to get pantsed. Like, I don't understand, like, sagging.

Robert Oberst 3:30 I-

Joe Rogan 3:30 I guess it, like, it comes out of prison culture?

Robert Oberst 3:32 From what I heard. I... But I g-

Joe Rogan 3:34 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 3:34 I, I hate it now, but I feel like an old man, 'cause I used to do it as a kid, like-

Joe Rogan 3:38 Used to sag?

Robert Oberst 3:38 Well, I grew up in an area that was like pr- it was, it was a very, uh, low income, like, area. I don't know how to say that politically correct.

Joe Rogan 3:45 That's the way to say it, yeah.

Robert Oberst 3:45 We were all poor. There you go. (laughs) There you go.

Joe Rogan 3:47 Low income.

Robert Oberst 3:48 So, uh, like, everybody was sagging. Like-

Joe Rogan 3:51 Did you have, like, boxer shorts underneath?

Robert Oberst 3:52 Oh, for sure.

Joe Rogan 3:52 That's what you have to have, right?

Robert Oberst 3:54 Yeah. (laughs) You, you learn. See, when you start off with tidy-whities and then everyone makes fun of you, then you're like, "Oh, right, right, right." So you switch to boxers. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:59 It's not... What a weird, like, style.

Robert Oberst 4:02 Yeah. I ran out of that by the time I was, like, 12 though.

Joe Rogan 4:06 Good for you.

Robert Oberst 4:06 I was like, "This is ridiculous." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:08 (laughs) Well, my problem is, like, if somebody, like, grabs your pants, like, you're done. Like, you're, you're gonna have to reach for your pants and then they're gonna punch you in the face. Like, this is a te- You're, like, asking to... You're, you're, like, at a handicap.

Robert Oberst 4:20 Yeah. You sound exactly like my father right now. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:23 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 4:23 It's, like, exactly what he would say. He said, "You're gonna get your ass kicked." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:27 Yeah, I have friends that tried it, like, t- even 10, 15 years ago. Like, guys my age. I was like, "What in the fuck are you doing?"

Robert Oberst 4:34 It's too late.

Joe Rogan 4:34 "What are you doing?"

Robert Oberst 4:35 The thing now is skinny jeans and sagging.

Joe Rogan 4:37 Mm-hmm. That's weird.

Robert Oberst 4:38 Which is like counterproductive in a way.

Joe Rogan 4:40 Yes.

Robert Oberst 4:40 Like, it just doesn't seem like it goes together.

Joe Rogan 4:42 Right. They're trying to combine styles. They don't understand what they're doing.

Robert Oberst 4:45 Right.

Joe Rogan 4:45 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 4:45 Well, I mean, if they've got a good enough dick root, then they-

Joe Rogan 4:49 Ah.

Robert Oberst 4:49 ... they, maybe that's what it is. Like, they just gotta show the quad, like, f- so they-

Joe Rogan 4:53 Do you wear regular jeans or do you wear, like, the m- the stretchy type jeans?

Robert Oberst 4:57 These are stretchy.

Joe Rogan 4:57 Like, Revtown jeans? Yeah.

Robert Oberst 4:58 Yeah. These are stretchy for sure.

Joe Rogan 4:59 I love those, man.

Robert Oberst 5:00 You can move-

Joe Rogan 5:01 I can't go back to regular jeans.

Robert Oberst 5:02 Right.

Joe Rogan 5:03 Once you wear, like, Revtowns or, you know, barbells, or any of those kinda, like-

Robert Oberst 5:06 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:07 ... the... Fuck all those regular jeans.

Robert Oberst 5:08 You can't, man.

Joe Rogan 5:09 No.

Robert Oberst 5:09 I, I mean, I've, I ripped so many jeans-

Joe Rogan 5:11 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 5:11 ... just in sitting down, you know?

Joe Rogan 5:12 Well, I think with your size, like, it must be fucking so hard to just find clothes.

Robert Oberst 5:16 Right. And no, and I'm built differently. Like, my waist is, uh, is, like, a 40, but my inseam's, like, a 34. And so normally, like, if you find a 40 waist, it's, like, a 28 or 30 leg.

Joe Rogan 5:28 Mm-hmm.

Robert Oberst 5:28 So it's, like, for shorter, like, chubby guys.

Joe Rogan 5:31 Fat guys.

Robert Oberst 5:31 Yeah. So-

Joe Rogan 5:32 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 5:33 You know?

Joe Rogan 5:33 You can still say fat guys and no one gets mad. If you say fat girls, people are like, "Hey."

Robert Oberst 5:37 Yeah. That makes it-

Joe Rogan 5:38 "Don't be so insensitive." But fat guys, they don't catch a break.

Robert Oberst 5:41 You can take it.

Joe Rogan 5:41 No one gives a fuck about fat guys.

Robert Oberst 5:43 Deal with it, fat guys.

Joe Rogan 5:44 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 5:44 Fucking deal with it.

Joe Rogan 5:45 Fat guys are happy they're fat sometimes.

Robert Oberst 5:47 That's true.

Joe Rogan 5:47 That's the difference. Like, fat girls will pretend they're happy they're fat, but they're really sad on the inside.

Robert Oberst 5:53 See, there you go.

Joe Rogan 5:53 But fat guys, if they... Especially if they drink, they're like, "Ha."

Robert Oberst 5:57 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:57 Like Bert Kreischer. Bert Kreischer does not seem to give a fuck that he's fat.

Robert Oberst 6:00 No. He does not have a problem with it.

Joe Rogan 6:02 No.

Robert Oberst 6:02 No.

Joe Rogan 6:02 Takes his shirt off the moment he gets on stage.

Robert Oberst 6:04 Doesn't care.

Joe Rogan 6:05 And if they don't...

Robert Oberst 6:05 He'll do it on, on daytime TV. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:07 Yes. If he doesn't, people get mad at him.

Robert Oberst 6:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:10 If he doesn't take his shirt off, people are like, "Hey, come on, Bert."

Robert Oberst 6:13 (laughs) You're the fat guy that gets naked.

Joe Rogan 6:15 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 6:15 Get naked.

Joe Rogan 6:15 "Where's your shirt?"

Robert Oberst 6:16 Dance, monkey.

Joe Rogan 6:17 Yeah, take it off. That's a part of your gig. It's like w- what's his name? Gallagher without a watermelon.

Robert Oberst 6:22 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:22 Right? No sledgehammer? Get the fuck outta here.

Robert Oberst 6:25 Yeah. And speaking of, of him, what are you guys thinking for Sober October?

Joe Rogan 6:28 We really haven't decided yet. The... Bert wanted us to do some dance contest so he could suck my dick. 'Cause he wanted to do that so he could just win without working hard.

Robert Oberst 6:36 I get it.

Joe Rogan 6:36 He'll just take his clothes off, "I'm getting crazy! I'm gonna win! Oh!"

Robert Oberst 6:40 Right, right.

Joe Rogan 6:41 No, no chance. No chance.

Robert Oberst 6:41 But listen, how about this? What if they found a way to, like, score a dance thing in a, in a, like, so there is no judgment, and it was, like, points based on athletic types of movements or something like that?

Joe Rogan 6:54 Mm.

Robert Oberst 6:54 I'm sure, like, the internet could come up with a way that it's like... 'Cause I understand what you're saying, and what you're saying makes total sense about how, like, you earn that shit.

Joe Rogan 7:01 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 7:01 You want it to be regulated, not someone's opinion.

Joe Rogan 7:03 Especially last year, 'cause last year, we literally were killing ourselves.

Robert Oberst 7:07 Yeah, to the death.

Joe Rogan 7:07 We were working out seven hours a day, and I was just trying to grind those guys into the ground. I was like, "I'm just gonna take you to deep water and see."

Robert Oberst 7:14 (Laughs) It was awesome, man.

Joe Rogan 7:15 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 7:15 I loved it, I fucking loved it. I couldn't stop watching.

Joe Rogan 7:17 While Bert was talking shit, and that's when I was like, "Oh, I cannot have this guy win. This is not gonna happen." I knew-

Robert Oberst 7:22 That's when you fuck up.

Joe Rogan 7:23 I knew Ari was gonna be a problem 'cause he's crazy. Ari tried really hard-

Robert Oberst 7:27 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 7:27 ... but he doesn't have a lot of experience grinding like that.

Robert Oberst 7:31 Right. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:31 So he did his best.

Robert Oberst 7:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:33 He hung in there, but-

Robert Oberst 7:35 B-

Joe Rogan 7:35 But Bert-

Robert Oberst 7:35 Well, you're a vet with that shit, yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:37 Yeah. Bert's trying to win this with fucking style points. He can fuck off.

Robert Oberst 7:40 No. No, I think if, if, if the, if somebody can come up with a way that dancing is, like, regulated in a point system that does nothing-

Joe Rogan 7:48 You know.

Robert Oberst 7:48 ... to do with people's opinion, to where, like, it's... I don't know even how you would do that, where it's like there's an athletic type of movement that's required for this, so learning that takes this and gives you that.

Joe Rogan 7:59 Hmm. Yeah, it gives you points.

Robert Oberst 8:00 That's the only way it would even work where it wasn't based on someone's opinion.

Joe Rogan 8:04 It's too much time, too. That's the part of the problem is, like, learning how to dance. Like, I did a movie once, uh, Zookeeper, and I had to learn how to do this elaborate dance with, uh, Leslie Bibb. It, that shit took forever.

Robert Oberst 8:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:17 It took weeks and we- and you were, like, constantly training and drilling and going over the movements. And, and I don't even like that kind of dancing.

Robert Oberst 8:25 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:25 It's not like... Like, if I'm doing martial arts and I'm training, I'm interested. Uh, that's like, I love that. I wanna, I wanna get better at it. I didn't want to get better at dancing. I just wanted it to be over.

Robert Oberst 8:34 Right.

Joe Rogan 8:34 I just wanted to film the scene, so I could fucking relax.

Robert Oberst 8:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:37 You know?

Robert Oberst 8:38 Move on.

Joe Rogan 8:39 Yeah, so I don't know what we're gonna do. We haven't decided.

Robert Oberst 8:41 Hm. Well, we're all waiting. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 8:44 Yeah, that's, I said we should have a hold-your-breath competition.

Robert Oberst 8:47 Oh, that'd be cool.

Joe Rogan 8:48 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 8:49 See if we can-

Joe Rogan 8:49 Underwater. Yeah.

Robert Oberst 8:51 That takes practice. I mean, I think you guys have to, you have to add something in. My favorite part of it was seeing you be like, "Nah, fuck this." Like-

Joe Rogan 8:59 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 8:59 ... "We'll all go to the gates of hell," you know? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 9:01 Yeah. (laughs)

Robert Oberst 9:01 That's me. Like, if someone, if someone... I love talking trash, right? That's-

Joe Rogan 9:04 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 9:05 That's my thing. And in strongman, it's not very popular. Like, when I got in-

Joe Rogan 9:08 Really?

Robert Oberst 9:08 Oh, no, they don't. It's very old school. Like, you're supposed to do your work, not act like you're supposed to get paid, not act like you're supposed to want any attention, not draw any attention towards yourself.

Joe Rogan 9:19 Really?

Robert Oberst 9:19 It's like, it's like karate in, like, 1960, you know?

Joe Rogan 9:22 Ah.

Robert Oberst 9:22 Like, it's old school. You know, "Be respectful of the way," and I totally get that. I, I understand that, and it, I mean, I don't think anyone can get to the top echelon without having that respect. But it's, it's, it's ridiculous for, for people who've never been at that, on that, uh, on that level to tell other people how they're supposed to behave.

Joe Rogan 9:44 Right.

Robert Oberst 9:44 If, if I wanna talk shit, I'm gonna talk shit.

Joe Rogan 9:46 (Laughs) Yeah.

Robert Oberst 9:46 I do. Like I was, I was talking shit to you when we first started coming out here.

Joe Rogan 9:50 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 9:50 Th- this is what we do, you know?

Joe Rogan 9:51 And yeah, it's fun. Talking shit is fun. And also, it's like, I feel f- I feel like that makes it more entertaining.

Robert Oberst 9:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:57 And we want more eyes on the sport.

Robert Oberst 9:58 Exactly. And-

Joe Rogan 9:59 I mean, that's what I, my, my argument about the UFC. I always like it when people talk some shit.

Robert Oberst 10:03 Right. And, and, and win or lose, sometimes you have to eat that.

Joe Rogan 10:06 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 10:06 Like, what's that, that kid that-

Joe Rogan 10:07 Ben Askren.

Robert Oberst 10:08 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 10:08 He got flat-lined, yeah.

Robert Oberst 10:10 (laughs) That was brutal.

Joe Rogan 10:11 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 10:11 But, I mean, he also took that on the chin. He put up a post, like, right after that, like, "Well, that sucked."

Joe Rogan 10:15 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 10:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:16 Oh, he takes it on the chin better than anybody.

Robert Oberst 10:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:17 He's got a great personality.

Robert Oberst 10:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:18 And Masvidal said, "It's not even over."

Robert Oberst 10:21 (Laughs)

Joe Rogan 10:21 Masvidal said, "Listen." He goes, "I don't like that dude." He goes, "If I see him at Whole Foods, he's getting smacked up."

Robert Oberst 10:25 Oh, shit. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 10:26 Like, can you imagine the guy flat-lines you with the fucking fastest ever KO in UFC history and he's promising you that if you're looking for brussel sprouts, he's gonna smack you in the face.

Robert Oberst 10:34 (Laughs) Yeah. Oh, man. He already gave him two extra shots to the face, which-

Joe Rogan 10:38 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 10:38 ... by the way, people are giving him shit for it. It, it's, that's his job.

Joe Rogan 10:40 Yes.

Robert Oberst 10:41 It's go till the referee stops you.

Joe Rogan 10:43 Well, especially when there's a heated contest like that where you, you talk so much shit, and he insulted Masvidal's manhood. He talked about-

Robert Oberst 10:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:52 ... his ne- ethnicity. He talked, he, he said a lot of shit that really pissed Masvidal off.

Robert Oberst 10:58 Right.

Joe Rogan 10:58 And he's like, "Why..." And he had a good statement about it. He's like, "Why is it okay to talk all this shit online about me before the fight, but then after I knock him out, I'm n- I'm not supposed to showboat? I'm not supposed to celebrate?"

Robert Oberst 11:08 Right.

Joe Rogan 11:08 "Get the fuck out of here."

Robert Oberst 11:09 No. I- i- if you got a problem with it-

Joe Rogan 11:11 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 11:11 ... stop him. I mean, winners get to do what they want.

Joe Rogan 11:13 He's ice cold, man. When he said, "And it's not over. If I see you-"

Robert Oberst 11:16 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:16 "... just getting smacked," I was like, "Oh, my God."

Robert Oberst 11:18 Jesus.

Joe Rogan 11:19 That is so intense. (laughs)

Robert Oberst 11:22 Savage, savage. That was-

Joe Rogan 11:23 That move, though, was so brilliant because Askren always grabs your legs.

Robert Oberst 11:27 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 11:27 And if you get that close to him, he's gonna think, like, almost like he has to grab you. It's his-

Robert Oberst 11:31 Right.

Joe Rogan 11:32 It's his instinct.

Robert Oberst 11:33 And you saw him, like, I saw somebody put a video up of him practicing it.

Joe Rogan 11:36 Mm-hmm.

Robert Oberst 11:36 He would, he rounded it, like, out to the outside, and then-

Joe Rogan 11:39 Mm-hmm.

Robert Oberst 11:39 -- acted as if it was gonna be just a normal step in. Then it's two quick steps and a knee.

Joe Rogan 11:43 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 11:43 Oh, f- And you see how stiff he was before he hit the... I'm sure you saw, but-

Joe Rogan 11:47 (sighs)

Robert Oberst 11:47 Damn, he was stiff. Out-

Joe Rogan 11:48 Yeah, one, his head was up and one leg was up. I mean, he was stiff.

Robert Oberst 11:53 That was brutal.

Joe Rogan 11:53 That was a ru- here, here he is practicing. Yeah.

Robert Oberst 11:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:57 Uh, that was an absolutely-

Robert Oberst 11:59 Normal, normal.

Joe Rogan 11:59 ... ruthless KO. And it, it's the fastest ever UFC KO at five seconds, but really, he was out cold at 2.

Robert Oberst 12:06 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:07 I mean-

Robert Oberst 12:07 It just took the ref a few seconds to get there.

Joe Rogan 12:09 Yeah, whatever, maybe three?

Robert Oberst 12:11 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 12:11 I guess, maybe. I mean, whatever it took for him to run over there. It seems like two seconds.

Robert Oberst 12:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:15 It was like, "One, one thousand, two, it's over."

Robert Oberst 12:18 Out.

Joe Rogan 12:19 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 12:19 Well.

Joe Rogan 12:19 Fuck.

Robert Oberst 12:21 Well, he-

Joe Rogan 12:21 It's a rough sport, man.

Robert Oberst 12:21 At least he got a lot of face time before he got in the ring.

Joe Rogan 12:24 Yeah. Have you ever thought about fighting-

Robert Oberst 12:26 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 12:26 ... as big as you are?

Robert Oberst 12:27 No, um, I'm, I mean, I, I messed around with, like, wrestling and stuff. And I, I worked with Jon Jones with, uh, the supplement company for a while.

Joe Rogan 12:34 Oh, really?

Robert Oberst 12:35 Yeah, yeah. And then I know a lot of fighters. I know a lot of old school wrestlers. I've got a lot of, like, friends in the industry but, um...I'm fucking-

Joe Rogan 12:42 Old school wrestler wrestlers or pro wrestlers?

Robert Oberst 12:44 Pro wrestlers, sorry. Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:45 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 12:46 They're a totally different thing. It's-

Joe Rogan 12:47 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 12:48 ... just, it's the-

Joe Rogan 12:48 But still, that would be a great avenue for you too, right?

Robert Oberst 12:50 I did think about that for a while too. It, it's just, uh, contractually, it's just, it's a shit show. And it's like-

Joe Rogan 12:56 I'm sure injuries and all that stuff too would take you outta competition.

Robert Oberst 13:00 But, plus they want the, uh, where I'm at now, I started and worked my ass off just to get like a little piece of that pie. And when you go to the WWE or, or something, something like that, you have to step back all the way-

Joe Rogan 13:13 Hmm.

Robert Oberst 13:13 ... all the way to the ground level. You have to earn your stripes. And I, I understand that, but like, I, I have, I have a son and I have a family. I take care of people. I can't-

Joe Rogan 13:21 Hmm.

Robert Oberst 13:21 ... give up everything that I've earned, like basically breaking myself for five years-

Joe Rogan 13:26 Right.

Robert Oberst 13:26 ... just to crawl back up and hopefully, you know, end up where I am. But, you know, it's, it's a cool thing. I also, I was a big fan of wrestling when I was a kid, you know, back in the day.

Joe Rogan 13:35 Mm-hmm.

Robert Oberst 13:35 And, uh, you know, like I love watching it. Uh, one of my buddies right now, a guy who was a strongman with me, his name's Braun Strowman, and he's in the WWE. He's a, he's a badass, so I love watching him do it sometimes.

Joe Rogan 13:46 Do you, uh, follow Pudzianowski fighting in MMA?

Robert Oberst 13:49 I haven't, I haven't seen a lot of his MMA stuff. I know, I know him and I've watched him.

Joe Rogan 13:53 He's still active.

Robert Oberst 13:53 He's, he's freaking crazy, man.

Joe Rogan 13:55 He's fucking people up too, man. He's, he's really getting better. Like, when he first started fighting, he was just this giant dude-

Robert Oberst 14:02 Right.

Joe Rogan 14:02 ... who was just swinging arm punches, and if he hit you, he would fuck you up. But he got crazy and he decided to fight Tim Sylvia, who's a former UFC heavyweight champion.

Robert Oberst 14:11 Oh yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:11 And Tim beat the shit outta him. It was horrible.

Robert Oberst 14:14 Wow.

Joe Rogan 14:14 Like, I, I don't know why he thought he could beat Tim Sylvia.

Robert Oberst 14:17 Maybe 'cause-

Joe Rogan 14:17 He thought that Tim was washed up or older. Or-

Robert Oberst 14:20 Man. How, how old is Tim now?

Joe Rogan 14:22 (smacks lips) God, it's-

Robert Oberst 14:23 He's... Well, how long has he been outta the game?

Joe Rogan 14:24 He's definitely in his 40s.

Robert Oberst 14:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:27 Um, I don't know. How old is Tim? Tim's giant now.

Robert Oberst 14:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:32 He's probably 400 pounds.

Jamie Vernon 14:34 43.

Robert Oberst 14:34 See, there. See, that's me. I'm 400 pounds. I can't-

Joe Rogan 14:36 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 14:37 ... I can't. I don't wanna cut both my legs off to make 265. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 14:39 Well, I think that's so weird that they have a 265 cutoff-

Robert Oberst 14:43 Right.

Joe Rogan 14:43 ... 'cause heavyweight is supposed to be the biggest guy.

Robert Oberst 14:45 Right.

Joe Rogan 14:45 Like in boxing, do you remember that dude Valuev who, uh, fought? He... Who did he fight? Did he fight Holyfield? He was like seven feet tall. He's this giant ass Russian dude.

Robert Oberst 14:56 Jesus.

Joe Rogan 14:56 He was fucking enormous, this boxer. But he was well over 300 pounds.

Robert Oberst 15:00 Seven foot tall? He'd be skinny at 300.

Joe Rogan 15:02 Yeah, but he was big, man. He had gigantitis or whatever it is-

Robert Oberst 15:05 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 15:06 ... when you have a pituitary gland tumor.

Robert Oberst 15:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:08 What is that? If... See if you can find that guy. Valuev?

Jamie Vernon 15:11 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:12 W- I think he fought Holyfield. I think Holyfield beat him for the title, which is even crazier when you think that Holyfield started his career at 190. He started his career as a cruiserweight, 195 pounds.

Robert Oberst 15:22 Really? I didn't know that.

Joe Rogan 15:23 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's it. Here's the guy. Look at this.

Robert Oberst 15:26 Jesus.

Joe Rogan 15:26 Evander Holyfield and Valuev. And this is in 2008. Look at the size of that guy, man. I mean, get the fuck (laughs) out of here. He's so big, man. But I think when, uh, guys are that big, like with that g- giantitis or gigantitis-

Robert Oberst 15:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:41 ... that they, they're always hurting.

Robert Oberst 15:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:42 Like everything hurts.

Robert Oberst 15:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:43 Your knees hurt, your elbows. It's like you can't really move that good, you know.

Robert Oberst 15:48 Yeah. I knew a lot of guys... Andre the Giant was my hero growing up.

Joe Rogan 15:51 Hmm.

Robert Oberst 15:51 Like, he was like my first real hero. And, um, I knew a lot of guys who had known him. I actually met, uh, Rowdy Roddy Piper like three weeks before he passed, and I was wearing-

Joe Rogan 16:00 Oh, man.

Robert Oberst 16:00 ... an Andre the Giant shirt. And we, we got to sit in the VIP section at a, at a baseball game, and he was badass, man. He was so fucking cool.

Joe Rogan 16:07 (sighs) I wanted to get that guy on the podcast. And he... T- Ho- Tony Hinchcliffe was actually trying to set it up, but then he died.

Robert Oberst 16:12 Yeah. He used to go to the Comic Store a lot.

Joe Rogan 16:14 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Robert Oberst 16:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:16 Yeah, yeah. He even went on stage a couple times there.

Robert Oberst 16:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:19 Yeah, it was awesome.

Robert Oberst 16:19 He would just tell stories, man. It was awesome.

Joe Rogan 16:21 He was g- He was like one of the first guys also to crossover into movies. Obviously Andre was first.

Robert Oberst 16:27 Right.

Joe Rogan 16:27 He did a few guest spots in movies.

Robert Oberst 16:29 Princess Bride.

Joe Rogan 16:29 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Robert Oberst 16:30 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:30 But, uh, he was the star of They Live, remember that?

Robert Oberst 16:32 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 16:33 Which is a, the C- John Carpenter movie. That's a great fucking movie.

Robert Oberst 16:36 Huge. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:37 Yeah. So he was in that too.

Robert Oberst 16:38 That's so cool.

Joe Rogan 16:39 Yeah, he was a fun guy, man.

Robert Oberst 16:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:41 You know?

Robert Oberst 16:41 We're actually, um... What I was... What we're doing, uh, the whole, basically the reason I was here to talk about the TV show, this, uh, next, uh, season, season two, we're gonna do... We... So I'll start over. We, uh, the whole TV show is based on us doing acts of strength throughout, uh, for strongmen throughout history. So like-

Joe Rogan 17:00 And what is the, the name of the show called?

Robert Oberst 17:01 History's Strongest Men.

Joe Rogan 17:03 And-

Robert Oberst 17:03 Strongest Men in History. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:04 And this is an ESPN show?

Robert Oberst 17:05 It's on History, the History Channel.

Joe Rogan 17:06 Oh, on, oh, it's on History Channel?

Robert Oberst 17:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:08 Oh, that's awesome.

Robert Oberst 17:09 So, um, one of the episodes this next season we're hoping to do is Andre the Giant, which we were gonna talk about. Um, but what we do is we travel to where a historical strongman lived or w- or where he did this famous feat of strength, and we, we recreate those feats of strength and we kinda talk about who they are as people and stuff, and bring to light like a lot of the, the cool aspects that most people lose. So like, it'd be cool to, you know, take somebody like Andre the Giant and like meet with his daughter and figure out like little parts that people haven't really paid attention to and bring that to light.

Joe Rogan 17:39 Mm-hmm.

Robert Oberst 17:39 And we did, um... One of my favorite episodes we did was this guy Peter Francisco who was, uh, he was born in, it w- I think it was, uh, Colombia. I'm, I'm, I'm, I might be mistaken.

Joe Rogan 17:53 There it is.

Robert Oberst 17:53 Peter Francisco. There we go. The Virginia Giant, in Portugal. There you go. So he was born to like, um, a wealthy family and was kidnapped and sold as a slave. And he ended up, uh, in, in America. And at 16 he signed up to fight for, uh, in the Revolutionary War. He was six foot seven, six foot eight, just this giant of a man, especially 1776.

Joe Rogan 18:15 Wow. Yeah, there was nobody that big back then.

Robert Oberst 18:17 Huge.

Joe Rogan 18:18 You know, like a lot of people don't realize Jack Johnson, the former heavyweight champion who they called the, the Galveston Giant, I think he was only 6'3".

Robert Oberst 18:25 See?

Joe Rogan 18:26 Or 6'2" or 6"... Uh, uh, uh, pull, pull up Jack Johnson and see how big he was. Towered over everybody else he fought.

Robert Oberst 18:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:31 Like Rocky Marciano was 185 pounds.

Robert Oberst 18:33 Right.

Joe Rogan 18:34 189 pounds, like somewhere around there.

Robert Oberst 18:36 See?

Jamie Vernon 18:37 He says he was only six foot tall, but-

Joe Rogan 18:39 What?

Jamie Vernon 18:39 Yeah, that's what Google put, just popped up from his like Wikipedia.

Joe Rogan 18:42 Hmm.

Jamie Vernon 18:42 Uh-

Joe Rogan 18:43 I think he's a little taller than that. But he was a giant back then.

Robert Oberst 18:46 Right.

Joe Rogan 18:47 They called him the Galveston Giant. Well, everybody was so poor then. They didn't have any food.

Robert Oberst 18:51 Right.

Joe Rogan 18:51 You know, the turn of the century.

Robert Oberst 18:53 Yeah.

Jamie Vernon 18:53 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 18:53 Everybody's struggling.

Jamie Vernon 18:54 Six foot tall is what every-

Joe Rogan 18:55 That's crazy.

Robert Oberst 18:56 See?

Joe Rogan 18:57 That's crazy.

Jamie Vernon 18:57 Joe Lewis was 6'2". Jack Dempsey, 6'1".

Joe Rogan 19:00 Wow. And Marciano, I think was 5'10".

Robert Oberst 19:03 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:04 Five... I believe he was fi- I, I think Marciano's 5'10", 185 pounds. It's crazy because Jack Johnson towered over everybody and was fucking everybody up. I mean, it's a food thing, man. No one had any fucking food back then. If you look at the size of the people that fought during the Civil War, they were tiny ass people.

Robert Oberst 19:22 Right.

Joe Rogan 19:22 Like, really tiny. Like 125-pound men.

Robert Oberst 19:25 And even go back further, all the skeletons and the people that fight-

Joe Rogan 19:27 Like, look at that picture of him. Like they're making it out like he's giant. Like look at the picture on the right. Like look at his back.

Robert Oberst 19:31 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:31 Look at his back.

Robert Oberst 19:32 He is, he is pretty direct. Pretty direct.

Joe Rogan 19:34 But yeah, sure.

Robert Oberst 19:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:35 I mean, he's ja- definitely jacked for, I mean, look, he's big. But I mean, in comparison to a real heavyweight today?

Robert Oberst 19:42 No.

Joe Rogan 19:42 Like, if you put him next to Anthony Joshua?

Robert Oberst 19:45 Right.

Joe Rogan 19:45 You know, like Josh would be towering. Or Deontay Wilder, who's 6'7". What is he, 6'7"?

Jamie Vernon 19:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:50 Yeah. Or Francis Ngannou, you know, big giant dudes. Real legit giant dudes.

Robert Oberst 19:56 Right.

Joe Rogan 19:56 People weren't that big back then. So that guy, the wrestler, the, the, the Portuguese guy, I mean, that must have been unbelievable to see someone that big back then.

Robert Oberst 20:04 Insane, yeah. And what was cool is like, there's a lot of cool things that you find out. Like George Washington had a quote on his gravestone that was said that, uh, there were several battles that we would not have had go the same way. And, and we don't know if we would have even been able to win the war if it wasn't for him.

Joe Rogan 20:19 Wow.

Robert Oberst 20:19 He was a one-man army.

Joe Rogan 20:21 Pssh.

Robert Oberst 20:21 You know? And for George Washington to say that, that's huge.

Joe Rogan 20:24 That's crazy.

Robert Oberst 20:25 So it was cool to get to talk about him and, and all the things he had done, and, uh, bring, you know... show a little love for a guy who I'd never even heard of, you know?

Joe Rogan 20:33 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 20:33 And like, there was the story, he was on the battlefield and, uh, he was pulling people off of horses and like, basically beating them to death-

Joe Rogan 20:41 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 20:41 ... 'cause he'd ran out of bullets. So... And then he... As he goes marching up towards this guy who pulls his musket out to shoot at him and the musket misfires. He takes the musket from him and beats him to death with his own musket.

Joe Rogan 20:52 Oh my God.

Robert Oberst 20:52 Stuff like that.

Joe Rogan 20:53 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 20:53 Or when the, when the battle was over, they had a cannon stuck in the mud. And this is one of the feats of strength we did. They had a cannon stuck in the mud and he didn't want the British to end up with it. So he just yanks the thing off of the wheels, puts it on his shoulder and marches off with it.

Joe Rogan 21:06 How much did it weigh?

Robert Oberst 21:07 It depends. Depends on the story that you believe. When, when we went, I don't want to get too much into it, but when we went, that's the biggest question was... 'Cause anybody who's ever lifted a bunch of weight and thrown things around, it's like, that sounds pretty crazy. 'Cause cannons can go from anywhere of like, like a normal field cannon will be like 300 pounds. But they've got field cannons from that era that are 1,000 pounds and, and-

Joe Rogan 21:31 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 21:32 ... depending on who tells the story, that's what you find, that's what we try and figure out with it.

Joe Rogan 21:37 How the fuck would you even get that on your shoulder if it's in the mud?

Robert Oberst 21:40 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 21:40 So you're standing in the mud, so you don't have a firm ground to s- to push off against.

Robert Oberst 21:44 Right.

Joe Rogan 21:44 So you're in the... Squishing around in the mud and you got this giant cannon you're trying to throw on your shoulders.

Robert Oberst 21:51 No handles.

Joe Rogan 21:52 Fucking A, man.

Robert Oberst 21:53 And right after battle too. The guy was, the guy was a savage. It was, it was really cool and like afterwards, he, he ended up a wealthy man and was taken care of, you know, and it was, it was a really cool story. So it was... I was like actually pretty proud to get to tell that one. And-

Joe Rogan 22:08 That's awesome.

Robert Oberst 22:08 ... a lot of them are like that.

Joe Rogan 22:09 How did you get involved with doing strongman competitions?

Robert Oberst 22:13 Um, I played football, I played football for a long time and then, you know, football was done with me. And I basically, I was just... I didn't want to have a real job.

Jamie Vernon 22:21 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 22:22 (laughs) Just to be totally honest, I'm not a, I'm not a nine to five, sit in an office guy, you know?

Joe Rogan 22:28 I don't think anybody is.

Robert Oberst 22:29 I don't think so either. I really don't.

Joe Rogan 22:31 No, it's a terrible way to live.

Robert Oberst 22:32 And so-

Joe Rogan 22:33 And there's people listening right now that are like, "That's what I'm doing."

Robert Oberst 22:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 22:36 "Fuck this place."

Robert Oberst 22:37 Get out.

Joe Rogan 22:38 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 22:38 Get out while you can.

Joe Rogan 22:39 Get out.

Robert Oberst 22:40 I'm s- 'cause I'm telling you...

Joe Rogan 22:41 Run.

Robert Oberst 22:41 I convinced one of my best friends to quit his job and come with me to China for a week. And then, of course, you have to struggle and find your way.

Joe Rogan 22:48 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 22:48 But then after that, it was, it was the best thing he's ever done, you know?

Joe Rogan 22:51 Yeah. Be- definitely better off being a nomad.

Robert Oberst 22:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:54 Just find something. You, you'll be... You'll, you'll feel better, you know?

Robert Oberst 22:58 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 22:58 Like, I was talking to a friend of mine today about Thailand and about, uh, it... Like, when I went to Thailand last year, it kind of like reshaped my idea of like what makes people happy. Because everybody over there is wearing flip-flops.

Robert Oberst 23:09 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 23:09 And fucking shorts. Everything is real cheap. Food's real cheap. There's no extravagance and everybody's happy.

Robert Oberst 23:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:16 And like, uh, my friend John Wayne Parr, he says it's the land of smiles. That's what he calls it.

Robert Oberst 23:20 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 23:21 And I was like... 'Cause he lived there and trained there for a long time, but I'm like, w- well, I, I, I didn't get it until I went there and I'm like, "Goddamn it, everybody's happy." But you'll drive by, you'll see like a fucking kid, a baby sitting on the gas tank of a motorcycle while a guy's driving and the, the lady's behind him and she's, she's holding onto the guy's waist.

Robert Oberst 23:40 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:40 And he's like got one hand on the handlebars and one hand on a baby. And I'm like, "What in the fuck am I seeing?"

Robert Oberst 23:46 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 23:46 They're wearing flip-flops.

Robert Oberst 23:47 Yep.

Joe Rogan 23:47 And they're just... Everyone's happy.

Robert Oberst 23:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:49 It's weird.

Robert Oberst 23:49 I haven't been to Thailand, but it's like that in parts of China, like rural p- rural parts of China, it's a lot like that. I've seen like people tied to each other on a, on a motorcycle.

Joe Rogan 23:59 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 23:59 Just so them people wouldn't fall off.

Joe Rogan 24:00 Oh, Jesus.

Robert Oberst 24:01 (laughs) Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:01 What a terrible idea.

Robert Oberst 24:03 So bad.

Joe Rogan 24:03 Bill Burr sent me a fucking horrible video yesterday of this guy. These two guys are riding like assholes on a bridge.

Robert Oberst 24:09 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:09 Like with motorcycles weaving in and outta traffic and one guy loses control of the bike and he hits the cement barrier on the edge of the bridge and then goes off the edge.

Robert Oberst 24:18 Oh my God.

Joe Rogan 24:18 Yeah. Just watch it bang, whoop, and he flies off. And ugh.

Robert Oberst 24:23 It's like all I've been seeing the last week too. We just did this, uh-

Joe Rogan 24:26 Ooh, here it is. Jamie got it ready. Jamie's the fastest Googler in the West.

Robert Oberst 24:29 They're on it.

Joe Rogan 24:30 See, these guys are f- flying. Look at this. Boom.

Robert Oberst 24:32 Oh, he touched two. Ugh.

Joe Rogan 24:35 Yeah, that's a wrap.

Robert Oberst 24:35 You see him put his foot down and try and collect himself?

Joe Rogan 24:37 Watch, yeah, and watch when you see when they pull over and you get to look at how far this motherfucker dropped. Like, he's done for real.

Robert Oberst 24:44 Oh, shit.

Joe Rogan 24:45 That is, that is, that's-

Robert Oberst 24:48 That guy's got his hands in his pockets.

Jamie Vernon 24:50 It's Florida?

Joe Rogan 24:50 Of course it's Florida.

Jamie Vernon 24:51 Looks like it.

Joe Rogan 24:52 Sure, it's Florida. Fucking assholes.

Robert Oberst 24:54 (laughs) It's gotta be Florida.

Joe Rogan 24:55 He probably landed right on an alligator.

Robert Oberst 24:57 Ugh.

Jamie Vernon 24:58 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 25:00 (laughs) He would've been fine.

Joe Rogan 25:01 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 25:02 But now he's chewed up.

Joe Rogan 25:03 Yeah, I read a story in Florida about a... What's that?

Jamie Vernon 25:05 It was Tampa.

Joe Rogan 25:05 It was.

Robert Oberst 25:06 Tampa, Florida.

Joe Rogan 25:07 Of course.

Robert Oberst 25:07 Called it.

Joe Rogan 25:08 Of course, man. Florida's a fucking mess, man.

Robert Oberst 25:10 Dude, I was there for two weeks. I was scared shitless the whole time. I've been everywhere. It's Florida, I was like paying attention to everyone walking around. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:17 (laughs) ... people on bath salts-

Robert Oberst 25:19 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:19 ... eating people's faces.

Robert Oberst 25:20 Yeah, exactly.

Joe Rogan 25:21 Everything fucked up happens there. They, uh, they just issued a, a shoot to kill on iguanas. They're trying to get people to kill as many iguanas... Apparently, there's so many iguanas there that they're digging holes under bridges and roads, and roads are collapsing. Yeah, buildings are collapsing, like, because they're digging, they're digging trenches under the foundations.

Robert Oberst 25:41 That's so crazy.

Joe Rogan 25:42 And they're big, like five feet long. What do you got? What's the smile on his face?

Robert Oberst 25:47 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:47 Florida iguana hunter mistakes pool boy for iguana-

Robert Oberst 25:50 Oh, my God. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:50 ... shoots him. (laughs)

Robert Oberst 25:52 Yo. Florida, you gotta get your shit together, guys. Come on.

Joe Rogan 25:55 It's not going to happen. My sister lives in Florida. She's probably listening to this.

Robert Oberst 25:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:00 Laura, get out of there. (laughs)

Robert Oberst 26:01 Run. Run for your lives.

Joe Rogan 26:03 It's a fucking goofy place to live, man. It really is.

Robert Oberst 26:06 It's, it's so crazy.

Joe Rogan 26:07 It's a goofy place to live. But for people who like l- like chaos and partying, it's fun.

Robert Oberst 26:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:12 You know?

Robert Oberst 26:12 That's, that's what it's all about. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:14 Um, yeah. My friend, Billy Corbyn, he, uh, made, uh, Cocaine Cowboys 1 and 2.

Robert Oberst 26:18 Right.

Joe Rogan 26:18 He fucking loves it down there.

Robert Oberst 26:20 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 26:20 And he's a smart guy. And he lives in Miami, and he just fucking loves it. He, he, he enjoys the chaos.

Robert Oberst 26:26 Yeah. I mean, I guess if you can separate yourself enough that you don't feel crazy on the inside, I mean...

Joe Rogan 26:31 (laughs) I don't know how you can.

Robert Oberst 26:33 I, I couldn't do that here in LA. Like, I mean, LA is not even a quarter of that. But like, I lived in Playa del Rey and in Sherman Oaks for two and a h- two and a half years, and I was like, "I gotta get the fuck out of here."

Joe Rogan 26:43 You know what the problem with this place is? There's so much instability, because there's so many people that want to be something other than what they are.

Robert Oberst 26:50 Right.

Joe Rogan 26:50 That's a big part of this place.

Robert Oberst 26:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:52 Whereas, like, you live in Texas now?

Robert Oberst 26:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:54 Those are just, those are people.

Robert Oberst 26:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:57 Those are real people. I fucking love Texas.

Robert Oberst 26:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:59 They're, they are people. They don't have any illusions of becoming famous from some fucking reality show. Or if they do, they're the anomaly.

Robert Oberst 27:06 Right.

Joe Rogan 27:07 They're not the norm. Out here, it seems like everybody, uh, well, not everybody, but a giant percentage of the people that came here, came here with some dream. They came with some dream of being an actor, or some dream of being famous, some dream of, you know-

Robert Oberst 27:19 Right.

Joe Rogan 27:19 ... of making it. And then they got jobs, and so there's this, like, weird instability, and this, this need for acceptance, and this need for recognition.

Robert Oberst 27:29 (clears throat)

Joe Rogan 27:29 And, you know, you go to Montana, you don't get any of that.

Robert Oberst 27:32 Right.

Joe Rogan 27:32 You get regular people. You go to Colorado, well, Colorado's now filled with stoners. So it's a little different now.

Robert Oberst 27:37 Colorado's crazy now.

Joe Rogan 27:38 It's getting a little-

Robert Oberst 27:38 It's crazy.

Joe Rogan 27:39 ... a little different. (laughs)

Robert Oberst 27:40 Yeah. Well, now, now that the shrooms are all legal there too-

Joe Rogan 27:43 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 27:43 ... I'm wondering what's gonna take place.

Joe Rogan 27:44 They're trying to bring in wolves. My friend, Johnny Hamilton, told me they're trying to bring in... They're trying to stop mountain lion hunting and trying to bring in wolves.

Robert Oberst 27:51 Really?

Joe Rogan 27:52 (laughs) Yes.

Robert Oberst 27:53 That's... What?

Joe Rogan 27:54 Yeah. Well, they brought in wolves in the '90s to Yellowstone, um, and reintroduced-

Robert Oberst 27:58 I remember, and that went really badly, right?

Joe Rogan 28:00 Well, it depends on who you ask. Uh, the wildlife people think it went really well because it did a lot of great things in terms of, like, it preserved, um, a lot of plant species that were getting decimated by elk and deer.

Robert Oberst 28:13 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 28:13 The problem is, like, it happened (snaps fingers) so quickly that the elk and deer really didn't understand what was going on until they were decimated.

Robert Oberst 28:19 Right.

Joe Rogan 28:19 And they, you know, in some places, they've lost more than 50% of their populations.

Robert Oberst 28:23 Okay.

Joe Rogan 28:23 But then other people say that they really should have never been that high in the first place. It's hard to understand who's... Because, like, you try to be objective. But, you know, I hunt, and I eat a lot of elk and deer. So for me, I, I, I hear it from hunters that it's a terrible thing. But then you hear it from people that are concerned with balance, and wildlife ecology, and a, a balanced ecosystem, they think it's a good thing.

Robert Oberst 28:46 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 28:46 And so it's a very... It's very controversial. They don't think there ever should have been these giant herds of elk, you know, like, a th- a thousand elk in a field. They think it's j- that's un- that's unnatural.

Robert Oberst 28:56 Huh.

Joe Rogan 28:57 And that's akin to what, um, apparently what they experienced when a lot of the Native Americans were wiped out b- by plague when the European soldiers arrived. When they talk about these great herds of buffalo, like, millions of buffalo, they think that the reason why there were so many buffalo was because, like, literally 90% of the Native Americans were killed by European disease.

Robert Oberst 29:19 Right.

Joe Rogan 29:19 And so, these buffalo, for the... for the... during that time period that it happened, they just bred li... My friend, Dan Flores, wrote a book on it. Really, really interesting shit, because most people just assume that that's just how it was back then, that buffalo were everywhere, and then the white man came and shot all the buffalo. But apparently, the buffalo were only s- all over the place because the white man came and gave diseases to the Native Americans.

Robert Oberst 29:42 Right.

Joe Rogan 29:42 It's fucking nuts, man. So-

Robert Oberst 29:44 That is.

Joe Rogan 29:44 ... the balance issue. So, I don't know if it's a good idea to bring wolves around people that are on mushrooms either.

Robert Oberst 29:49 That, that too.

Joe Rogan 29:50 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 29:50 Go... If it was me, I'd try and pet it, you know?

Joe Rogan 29:53 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 29:53 Like, "We're good, buddy." You know?

Joe Rogan 29:55 "I'm reaching out to the forest."

Robert Oberst 29:58 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 29:58 I have a friend of mine, she lives in, uh, a place, uh, in, uh, the mountains above Boulder. And, uh, there's mountain lions in my neighborhood. Like, uh, when I was living up there, a mountain lion ate my fucking dog. And, uh, she, uh, she was like, "Well, I just set my intention when I go into the forest-"

Robert Oberst 30:15 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:15 "... and I let the forest know, I embrace it, I'm here for you." She was a yoga instructor.

Robert Oberst 30:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:20 She might be, she might be a little crazy.

Robert Oberst 30:22 Rest in peace. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:23 She's still alive, apparently. Still alive.

Robert Oberst 30:26 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:28 Satnam. Namaste, mountain lion.

Robert Oberst 30:30 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:31 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 30:31 That worked out great for Siegfried & Roy, right?

Joe Rogan 30:34 There's already c- Colorado already has some wolves that have been in Colorado. They, they're, they're entering in the fringes, um, from other areas where they're, they're present, like Wyoming, you know, and Idaho. There's, there's wolves that are neighboring Colorado that will eventually make their way into Colorado-

Robert Oberst 30:50 Right.

Joe Rogan 30:50 ... if they give it enough time. The reintroduction of wolves, the issue with that is, like, it's abrupt, and the animals might not r- know what's going on. And they also make a lot of money off of their hunting, um, th- th- like, the, the tags and a- all the, the economy that comes from people that hunt there.

Robert Oberst 31:08 Right.

Joe Rogan 31:08 Colorado's a big hunting state.

Robert Oberst 31:09 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 31:09 So.

Robert Oberst 31:10 It was, uh... Last I heard, it was those, it was the big arctic wolves they were bringing in to Montana, right?

Joe Rogan 31:15 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 31:16 Like, the giant ones.

Joe Rogan 31:17 They're bringing in from Canada into Montana. Yeah.

Robert Oberst 31:20 Right. Okay. So that's the same.

Joe Rogan 31:21 But, but they're just wolves. Like, it's weird, it's weird. It's a gray wolf, or it's a gray wolf, you know? It's, it's just a wolf. It's like-

Robert Oberst 31:27 Wow.

Joe Rogan 31:27 But they are bigger when they live in colder climates, because it's a mammal thing. Like, mammals-

Robert Oberst 31:32 Right.

Joe Rogan 31:32 ... like deers... If you look at a deer in Texas-... South Texas, a deer, a big deer is, like, 100-plus pounds, 150 pounds.

Robert Oberst 31:39 Right.

Joe Rogan 31:39 Whereas if you go to Saskatchewan, it's cold as fuck. Those deer are, like, 300 pounds when they're fully grown.

Robert Oberst 31:44 Right.

Joe Rogan 31:45 Like, a big male is like a 300-pound deer, which is crazy.

Robert Oberst 31:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:47 They're more than double the size, but it's 'cause of the cold.

Robert Oberst 31:50 Right. That I never thought about. That makes sense.

Joe Rogan 31:52 I love Texas.

Robert Oberst 31:53 Yeah, it's nice.

Joe Rogan 31:53 What, what part do you live in?

Robert Oberst 31:54 I'm in New Braunfels, which is right outside of San Antonio.

Joe Rogan 31:57 Oh, nice.

Robert Oberst 31:58 Uh-

Joe Rogan 31:58 I've never been to San Antonio.

Robert Oberst 31:59 It's nice, man. Uh, San Antonio's a cool city. We're actually right between Austin and San Antonio.

Joe Rogan 32:04 Oh, that's great.

Robert Oberst 32:05 Oh, it's perfect. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:06 Heard there's, like, that River Walk area-

Robert Oberst 32:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:07 ... supposed to be dope.

Robert Oberst 32:08 That's cool. I mean, that's, like, the, the tourist thing, you know? It's, like, um, it's what they do. It's like going to see the Hollywood sign.

Joe Rogan 32:14 Oh.

Robert Oberst 32:14 But, like, there's ... If you, if you wanna have a good time, just let me know when you're coming to Texas, and we'll go do some redneck shit.

Joe Rogan 32:20 Well, my br- my friend, John Dudley, was just there with the Black Rifle Coffee guys.

Robert Oberst 32:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:24 And, uh, they went to some ranch that's just outside of San Antonio that the fucking astronauts used to go to.

Robert Oberst 32:30 Mm.

Joe Rogan 32:30 He said there's these photos of Neil Armstrong with a fucking deer on camera. (laughs)

Robert Oberst 32:35 (laughs) Hell yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:36 Yeah. Texas is a w- That is a uniquely American place. Like, when other g- I think when other people think-

Robert Oberst 32:41 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 32:41 ... of America, they, they really think of Texas.

Robert Oberst 32:44 Most people. I mean-

Joe Rogan 32:45 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 32:45 ... I, they, mo- If they're thinking America, they'll say that it'll be Texas.

Joe Rogan 32:48 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 32:48 But if it's g- if it's like Hollywood, they'll say California, you know?

Joe Rogan 32:52 Right.

Robert Oberst 32:52 Those are the two.

Joe Rogan 32:53 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 32:53 Although some people, like, every once in a while, think New York. But-

Joe Rogan 32:56 But I think when people think about, like, crazy, gun-toting-

Robert Oberst 33:00 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:01 ... screaming at football, you know?

Robert Oberst 33:03 Right.

Joe Rogan 33:03 Like, that's Texas.

Robert Oberst 33:04 Yeah, guaranteed.

Joe Rogan 33:05 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 33:05 100%.

Joe Rogan 33:06 Driving trucks, yeah.

Robert Oberst 33:06 Proud of it, too.

Joe Rogan 33:07 Yeah, proud of it. Yeah.

Robert Oberst 33:08 (laughs) Damn sure. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:09 Well, it's a f- it's a fun place.

Robert Oberst 33:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:11 You know?

Robert Oberst 33:12 A lot of fun. A lot less regulations, a lot more, um, self, uh, self-accountability, you know?

Joe Rogan 33:17 Yeah. Well, they have fucking zebras and giraffes and shit everywhere.

Robert Oberst 33:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:21 And they're loose-

Robert Oberst 33:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:22 ... running around. (laughs)

Robert Oberst 33:23 Mm-hmm. I work with, um, with a, a, a cr- with ... Just became accredited zoo that works a lot with confiscated animals. Like, they've got hundreds of animals that basically some redneck was like, "Oh, I'm gonna have a white lion," right? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:37 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 33:37 Can't take care of it, so they, they take it.

Joe Rogan 33:39 These are folks who, uh, they got high in this abandoned house, and, uh, they were in the house in Texas. And, uh, they're wandering around this house smoking weed, and they walked into a room with a fucking tiger in a cage. (laughs)

Robert Oberst 33:51 Oh my God.

Joe Rogan 33:52 They call, they call the police. (laughs)

Robert Oberst 33:54 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:54 And they had the police come and, and rescue this fucking tiger, but this was in an abandoned house.

Robert Oberst 33:59 Oh, shit. The house-

Joe Rogan 34:00 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 34:00 Oh my God.

Joe Rogan 34:00 Yeah, there's a, just a ti- I mean, it, it ... They weren't sure, like ... Here, you find it, Aire?

Bro Science Life (Dom Mazzetti) 34:05 Hold on one second.

Joe Rogan 34:05 Oh, you got these goddamn pop-up ads.

Bro Science Life (Dom Mazzetti) 34:08 Usually gets it, but more power.

Joe Rogan 34:09 They're getting craftier and craftier with these pop-ups.

Robert Oberst 34:12 And then you don't know if, like, clicking X it's gonna download-

Joe Rogan 34:15 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 34:15 ... something nowadays.

Joe Rogan 34:15 "Texas man ..." Look at this. "Texas man enters abandoned home to smoke weed, finds tiger instead (laughs) and is dead."

Robert Oberst 34:20 That's fucked up, man.

Joe Rogan 34:22 Yeah, he thought he was hallucinating. (laughs)

Robert Oberst 34:24 Oh, man. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:27 (laughs)

Bro Science Life (Dom Mazzetti) 34:27 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 34:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:27 He said it was in a rinky-dink cage in the home's garage.

Robert Oberst 34:30 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 34:31 But it's weird when you treat animals like property, you know? When you can just do whatever you want with them. That's how Texas-

Robert Oberst 34:37 That's fucked up.

Joe Rogan 34:38 That's how Texas views, uh, exotics. Anything that's not ... Like, if you're, if you have white-tailed deer in Texas, they have pretty liberal tags.

Robert Oberst 34:45 Mm.

Joe Rogan 34:45 Like, you can shoot a good number of them, but you have to get tags.

Robert Oberst 34:48 Right.

Joe Rogan 34:48 But if you have, like, a, a black buck, which is a African animal-

Robert Oberst 34:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:52 ... or an elk guy or something like that, you can shoot as many as you want.

Robert Oberst 34:55 Right.

Joe Rogan 34:55 Y- Yeah, they just ... You do whatever you want. You sell them to your friends.

Robert Oberst 34:58 Ass.

Joe Rogan 34:58 What does it say? "It was secured only with a screwdriver and a nylon strap." (laughs)

Robert Oberst 35:03 Jesus Christ.

Bro Science Life (Dom Mazzetti) 35:04 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:05 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 35:06 I hope this guy got some kind of fucking punishment, the guy who owned the fucking house.

Joe Rogan 35:09 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 35:09 Like, that's, that's a dick move, man.

Joe Rogan 35:11 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 35:11 That's a beautiful tiger.

Joe Rogan 35:13 Yeah. There's something really fucked up about seeing tigers locked up. I, I, I don't even like the-

Robert Oberst 35:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:17 ... fact that they feed them. I mean, I feel like you should just-

Robert Oberst 35:20 They need to hunt.

Joe Rogan 35:21 ... let something loose in there.

Robert Oberst 35:22 Yeah, that's what I was saying, too.

Joe Rogan 35:24 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 35:24 That's what I was saying, but, m- from, from what I was told-

Joe Rogan 35:26 Keep that party rolling. (laughs)

Robert Oberst 35:27 (laughs) Yeah, exactly. What I was told was that that was just not, uh, PC. Like, it wasn't acceptable.

Joe Rogan 35:32 I'm sure.

Robert Oberst 35:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:33 Do you ev- do you ever see the footage of, uh, when the US soldiers overtook Baghdad? They had, uh-

Robert Oberst 35:39 Oh.

Joe Rogan 35:39 ... they had zoos in Baghdad, and what they would do is the, the lions knew it was happening, so they would, uh, let these goats out. And these goats would be wandering around, and then they would open the door. And the lions would sprint 'cause they knew exactly what ... 'Cause it was feeding time.

Robert Oberst 35:55 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 35:55 See, these goats had no idea. They let the goats out, and the goats were like, "Oh, just hanging out-"

Robert Oberst 35:59 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:00 ... "being a goat." And then they would open up this fucking door, and US soldiers filmed it.

Robert Oberst 36:04 Oh, wow.

Joe Rogan 36:05 And these lions just make this fucking mad sprint to these goats and just maul them.

Robert Oberst 36:10 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:10 And that's how they ate.

Robert Oberst 36:12 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 36:12 That's-

Robert Oberst 36:12 People got pissed, I'm sure.

Joe Rogan 36:13 People shouldn't be pissed. That's what it is.

Robert Oberst 36:16 That's life. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:16 If you watch a fucking b- Uh, you want y- you, you go and see a parrot eating seeds.

Robert Oberst 36:20 Mm.

Joe Rogan 36:20 Well, that's what it eats.

Robert Oberst 36:21 Right.

Joe Rogan 36:22 You know? May- maybe you really identify with seeds and you feel like that's brutal murdle.

Robert Oberst 36:26 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:26 Murder of seeds.

Robert Oberst 36:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:27 But that lion wants to do that. That's what makes them a lion.

Robert Oberst 36:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:31 It makes him happy.

Robert Oberst 36:32 And it's, it's what they have to do, you know? It's, like, there's a lot more, um, people getting publicity. Not publicity, but there's a lot more people showing that side of things, at least. I was ... We were talking about right before we came on, there's this, uh, Instagram page called Nature is Metal.

Joe Rogan 36:46 Yes, I love that page.

Robert Oberst 36:47 That's fucking badass, isn't it?

Joe Rogan 36:48 He got taken down for a while. H- he had a ... He got back up, but he's, hi- he has one of the ver- very best pages on, on Instagram.

Robert Oberst 36:54 But e- and w- how can you take it down? That's all ... He didn't-

Joe Rogan 36:57 Yes.

Robert Oberst 36:57 ... he didn't ... He had nothing to do with any of those situations.

Joe Rogan 36:59 Mm-hmm.

Robert Oberst 37:00 It's not like he, like, had some kind of ulterior motive and came in and put these animals in this situation. That's just reality.

Joe Rogan 37:07 Dude, Instagram's cracking down hard lately. I don't understand it. They ta- they take all kinds of stuff down for virtually no reason.

Robert Oberst 37:14 Hm.

Joe Rogan 37:14 It's weird.

Robert Oberst 37:15 More-

Joe Rogan 37:15 I think all it is, is someone has to just complain enough and they'll take it down.

Robert Oberst 37:18 Yeah. They need to get that fixed where it's ... Instead of, like, a compu- I understand it's a lot, right? It's a l- it's a lot of people.

Joe Rogan 37:25 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 37:25 So having a computer regulate that just doesn't work.

Joe Rogan 37:28 No. It's not just a computer regulate that. If someone could target you, like, say maybe you could be doing something and they just decide you're offensive-

Robert Oberst 37:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:35 ... and they just start e- like, make a targeted campaign to complain about your content.

Robert Oberst 37:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:41 Yeah, I saw one of those, uh, tattoo girls. She got, uh, her- her- her post removed just having her hand ab- above her crotch, like, cl- covering her crotch, her legs spread and showing all her tattoos. And they, they took down her, her page. Like, uh, uh, she's ... But she's covered up.

Robert Oberst 37:57 Makes no sense.

Joe Rogan 37:58 I mean, she doesn't have pants on, but you can't see anything.

Robert Oberst 38:01 Right.

Joe Rogan 38:01 The fuck are we doing? Isn't this America?

Robert Oberst 38:03 S- censoring legs.

Joe Rogan 38:04 What the fuck kind of shit is this?

Robert Oberst 38:05 Texas needs to open a new Instagram.

Joe Rogan 38:07 What's that?

Jamie Vernon 38:08 I'd say that's different than what Nature Is Metal is, though. He might've got in trouble for taking-

Robert Oberst 38:12 Right.

Jamie Vernon 38:12 ... like, photographer's copyright and works and reposting it.

Joe Rogan 38:14 It's not different because she's wildlife. She's being wild.

Robert Oberst 38:17 Exactly, and that's her natural habitat.

Joe Rogan 38:19 Yeah, she's being wild.

Robert Oberst 38:20 Goddamn it, Young Jamie.

Joe Rogan 38:21 Jesus, Jamie. (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 38:21 You know, I w- I was talking about this with a friend of mine yesterday.

Joe Rogan 38:23 What are you, a communist?

Jamie Vernon 38:24 No, like-

Robert Oberst 38:25 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 38:25 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 38:25 ... if this-

Robert Oberst 38:25 This is day number one right now. (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 38:26 ... selective- selective enforcement of these copyright laws, at what point ... If it's, if, like ... You know how YouTube, some stuff is good. Even on Instagram, some stuff they let go-

Joe Rogan 38:34 Mm-hmm.

Jamie Vernon 38:35 ... and some stuff they don't.

Robert Oberst 38:35 Yeah.

Jamie Vernon 38:36 At what point are- are people supposed to understand what is okay and what is not okay?

Robert Oberst 38:40 Right.

Joe Rogan 38:40 Yeah, it's hard, but you also have to think of it, how many people are on Instagram? Let's just guess. I don't know. Let's guess.

Robert Oberst 38:46 I don't know. I'm not a numbers guy.

Joe Rogan 38:46 How many people you think?

Robert Oberst 38:47 I don't-

Joe Rogan 38:47 I'm not either, but-

Robert Oberst 38:48 Fuck. Uh.

Joe Rogan 38:49 Let's say ... You think 100 million?

Jamie Vernon 38:51 Uh-

Robert Oberst 38:51 150?

Jamie Vernon 38:51 Way more than that.

Joe Rogan 38:52 More than that?

Jamie Vernon 38:53 Oh, it's probably close to a billion, maybe.

Robert Oberst 38:55 Really?

Jamie Vernon 38:55 500 million, like, uh, somewhere in that range, I would say.

Robert Oberst 38:58 All right.

Joe Rogan 38:58 All right, I'm gonna go with 300 million.

Robert Oberst 39:00 Uh, 300,000,001, please. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 39:03 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 39:03 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 39:03 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 39:03 And Jamie, you going with a billion?

Robert Oberst 39:06 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 39:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:07 How many people are on Instagram?

Jamie Vernon 39:08 Yeah, one billion people use Instagram every month.

Joe Rogan 39:10 Jesus Chri- ... But that's one billion use. What about the people that are on that don't even use it?

Jamie Vernon 39:17 Yeah, so that could be, like, two.

Robert Oberst 39:18 Does that include the Russians? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 39:22 One billion?

Jamie Vernon 39:23 Yeah, it's a lot.

Joe Rogan 39:24 Jesus Christ.

Robert Oberst 39:25 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 39:26 Well, Twitter still lets porn happen.

Robert Oberst 39:28 Right.

Joe Rogan 39:28 You can still have porn on Twitter.

Robert Oberst 39:30 What do they say? It's just ... Because it has a 18 plus, like, warning or something like that?

Joe Rogan 39:34 It doesn't even.

Robert Oberst 39:35 No?

Joe Rogan 39:35 My- my feed, I, I- I'll be scrolling through my feed, like, "I gotta make sure my kids don't ever grab my phone."

Robert Oberst 39:41 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 39:41 'Cause if they're looking through my, my phone, I felt some-

Jamie Vernon 39:43 It might ... The age thing might be in there, though, because when you sign your account, you say how old you are, and like-

Robert Oberst 39:47 Oh, okay.

Jamie Vernon 39:47 ... it might just be built into-

Robert Oberst 39:48 Okay.

Jamie Vernon 39:48 ... the system.

Robert Oberst 39:49 That makes sense.

Joe Rogan 39:50 Yeah.

Jamie Vernon 39:50 'Cause a lot of those things are protections for people that are under 13, even ... I don't know why there's that internet rule, but, like, there is some government protections. They need to be watching out for the minors that are online, and-

Joe Rogan 40:00 That makes sense.

Jamie Vernon 40:01 ... whatever they can see or something.

Joe Rogan 40:02 But does that ha- ... Is that the case with, like, YouPorn or places like that? You can just go there.

Jamie Vernon 40:06 Yeah, I don't know.

Robert Oberst 40:07 Hmm. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:07 Like, come on.

Robert Oberst 40:08 You don't know. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:09 I have no idea.

Jamie Vernon 40:10 I don't know where the ... Like, if the ki- ... Like, a kid knows what porn is.

Joe Rogan 40:12 He doesn't even know what it is.

Robert Oberst 40:13 Yeah.

Jamie Vernon 40:13 Yeah, I don't know the, the line.

Robert Oberst 40:13 So what is this-

Jamie Vernon 40:14 I don't know the line is missing.

Robert Oberst 40:15 ... mystic YouPorn you speak of?

Joe Rogan 40:16 What is ... What is this porn?

Robert Oberst 40:17 What are y- what, what, what are you talking about?

Jamie Vernon 40:19 How do you, how do you get there?

Robert Oberst 40:19 What? Huh?

Joe Rogan 40:20 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 40:20 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 40:20 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 40:21 Use a browser. Do you know what a browser is?

Robert Oberst 40:23 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 40:25 I can't spell.

Joe Rogan 40:25 Well, when the virtual porn, uh, fucking world opens up, that's when things are gonna get very squirrelly. Duncan said it's too real. Duncan, uh, had a HTC Vibe and he was watching r- porn with the, the, the helmet on-

Robert Oberst 40:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:37 ... which I only wanna be a fly on the wall.

Robert Oberst 40:40 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:40 Watch him standing there.

Robert Oberst 40:41 Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.

Joe Rogan 40:42 Standing there, beating off, looking at a 17-foot-tall vagina in front of him.

Robert Oberst 40:47 Oh my God. (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 40:49 A haptic suit would be the next step, and those are here, so I don't know what that's like-

Robert Oberst 40:52 Oh, yeah.

Jamie Vernon 40:52 ... if they've synced it up.

Robert Oberst 40:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:54 Those that, that ... I mean, I've done that, that place we talked about, the Void. You ever, uh, do a virtual reality place?

Robert Oberst 41:00 I haven't.

Joe Rogan 41:00 It's pretty dope. They have a new one that I just saw in Vegas that, some new one that was, it looked like you go in a warehouse and you're shooting at things, but you, uh, you put on this helmet and you enter into this room, and, uh, there was two different ones that I went on. One was a Star Wars one and one was a Wreck-It Ralph one.

Robert Oberst 41:22 Nice.

Joe Rogan 41:22 And it's crazy. I mean, you look around, I mean, the entire thing is animated, like, you're ... The above you, below you, you see the ground, you see stormtroopers, they shoot at you, you feel the, the laser beams hit your chest 'cause you're wearing a vest that d- like, vibrates when you get hit, and you walk into a room where there's fire and you feel the heat. It's ge- it's getting really interesting.

Robert Oberst 41:41 When, when you're in that, like, uh, say this room was empty, would you walk around as if it was, uh-

Joe Rogan 41:46 Yes.

Robert Oberst 41:46 ... like an entirety, the entirety of the room? Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:49 Yeah. You could walk ar- ... They have it set up so that they have rooms that you go into where you open doors or doors open for you, and you see the door open, like, in virtual reality, but a real door does open while that fake door that you're seeing opens.

Robert Oberst 42:03 Nice.

Joe Rogan 42:03 And then you go into it and then they have, uh, these plastic guns that you pick up. You know, so you actually pick up the gun, but when you're holding it, it looks like a stormtrooper weapon or-

Robert Oberst 42:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:12 ... you know, like a Star Wars weapon.

Robert Oberst 42:14 That's cool, man.

Joe Rogan 42:15 It's getting weird.

Robert Oberst 42:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:16 It's gonna, it's gonna be weird. But, but I think what's interesting is, like, that kinda stuff is so much less satisfying, the- to bring it back to, like, what you do, than, like, something that you have to really work for and it's really difficult and it's a very-

Robert Oberst 42:33 Right.

Joe Rogan 42:33 ... visceral, real feel- ... Like, the feeling of accomplishment you get when you do something virtual will never be able to compare-

Robert Oberst 42:40 Right.

Joe Rogan 42:40 ... with the f- the feeling that you do- when you do a, a physical, visceral thing.

Robert Oberst 42:45 Right.

Joe Rogan 42:45 When you feel it in your fucking bones.

Robert Oberst 42:47 Yeah, you feel it, you live it.

Joe Rogan 42:48 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 42:49 I'm, I, uh ... When I was doing World's Strongest Man in Botswana, Africa, I tore my bicep and, um, I, I just was getting beat up over and over again. I was just so wrecked. My body wasn't accepting 'cause I'd, I had went from football to strongman, and in football, we had never done deadlifts. It was all hang cleans and power cleans, which by the way, just quick little tip, that deadlifts, if you're, if you're deadlifting to be a better deadlifter, fine. If you're not doing that for deadlift's sake, then don't fucking do it. The risk to reward ratio is a joke.

Joe Rogan 43:18 For deadlifts?

Robert Oberst 43:18 For deadlifts.

Joe Rogan 43:19 Really?

Robert Oberst 43:19 And a lot of people aren't gonna like that I'm saying that, but if you go into any NFL, uh, gym, in any Division I college football gym, in any athletics where people are actually getting paid and it matters what they're doing, they're not deadlifting.

Joe Rogan 43:32 Really?

Robert Oberst 43:32 They're hang cleaning and power cleaning.

Joe Rogan 43:33 Why is that?

Robert Oberst 43:34 Because the, the risk to reward ratio, like, well there's ... It's so hard to be a great deadlifter and to not risk your low back, and-

Joe Rogan 43:42 Oh.

Robert Oberst 43:42 ... to, to be using your upper back properly, and, you know, just, there's so many little, uh-... um, chances for you get hurt, you know, hamstring stuff. That was, that was me, uh, my first World's Strongest Man, uh, I was the only rookie in the finals.

Joe Rogan 43:56 Bro.

Robert Oberst 43:57 China.

Joe Rogan 43:58 How much weight is that?

Robert Oberst 43:59 That was 880 pounds, 400 kilos.

Joe Rogan 44:02 (groans)

Robert Oberst 44:03 Me in my pink Chucks.

Joe Rogan 44:04 (groans) And you're-

Robert Oberst 44:05 I weigh less than that now. I'm less of a bowling ball, though (laughs) .

Joe Rogan 44:08 Really? Wow. That, well, they made those weights ridiculous looking, too.

Robert Oberst 44:14 Right. Well, and that right there is, uh, something we overhead press, too. So they'll take some of the weights out of it, and it's so flimsy. When you clean it, it's, like, basically, like, holding that earthquake bar that you have out there.

Joe Rogan 44:25 Oh, really?

Robert Oberst 44:26 It's just like that. And it's, it's fucking brutal.

Joe Rogan 44:28 So they take weight out of that round thing?

Robert Oberst 44:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:30 Like, what is in that round thing?

Robert Oberst 44:32 There's, well, there's several different attachments to it, so maybe some of them weigh different. I've never, like, been a part of that, but, uh, like, either that or it unscrews at the end and they take weights out of it. I'm not positive exactly how it works.

Joe Rogan 44:42 So you leave the NFL, or you leave pr- playing football-

Robert Oberst 44:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:45 ... and you D- were you in the NFL?

Robert Oberst 44:47 No. I had a brief shot at it and never, never actually got to do it, no. I was...

Joe Rogan 44:51 So what, what kind of transition, like, what is the transition to getting into strongman?

Robert Oberst 44:55 Went, went from that to, uh, I was a security guard at ev- uh, in Santa Cruz, there's this place called The Catalyst, which is where I worked for, like, six years. It's a really cool bar/concert venue, so I was, like, spoiled. I got to hang out with Rob Zombie and Willie Nelson and shit.

Joe Rogan 45:10 Really?

Robert Oberst 45:10 Yeah, it was cool, man.

Joe Rogan 45:11 Wow.

Robert Oberst 45:11 I was spoiled. Rob Zombie, I geeked out really hard for.

Joe Rogan 45:14 That's dope.

Robert Oberst 45:14 It was fun.

Joe Rogan 45:15 Yeah, we're working on getting him here.

Robert Oberst 45:16 Dude-

Joe Rogan 45:17 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 45:17 ... he'd be awesome.

Joe Rogan 45:18 Yeah, I'm sure he would be.

Robert Oberst 45:19 He'd be awesome. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:19 Yeah, there weren't-

Robert Oberst 45:19 He was really cool.

Joe Rogan 45:21 I'm, I'm sure he is.

Robert Oberst 45:22 Like-

Joe Rogan 45:22 He's really into horror movies, man.

Robert Oberst 45:23 Dude, and he does the best ones.

Joe Rogan 45:25 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 45:25 I love his horror movies, man.

Joe Rogan 45:27 They're wild.

Robert Oberst 45:28 I'm a huge fan, huge fan. He's like the Quentin Tarantino of horror.

Joe Rogan 45:31 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 45:31 It's awesome.

Joe Rogan 45:32 But it's such a weird transition, you know?

Robert Oberst 45:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:34 You gotta go from being a rock star to a horror film director.

Robert Oberst 45:37 Yeah. He's just m- crazy in the head and his brother is actually the lead singer of Powerman 5000.

Joe Rogan 45:42 Really?

Robert Oberst 45:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:43 Oh, wow.

Robert Oberst 45:44 So...

Joe Rogan 45:44 It runs in the family.

Robert Oberst 45:45 So then I went to security and I was working there, and a buddy of mine who I'd played junior college ball with was just obsessed with strongman, and I'd, I'd never heard of it, I never watched it. Like, when I was growing up, we were poor. Like, there was 10 of us in a three-bedroom house and from high school on, like, we didn't have electricity. So, like, like, we didn't watch TV. We, we would play outside. We had a trampoline and that was it.

Joe Rogan 46:05 You didn't have electricity in high school?

Robert Oberst 46:07 W- on the weekends. My dad worked for Caterpillar, Cash Man Equipment, so on the weekends he'd bring home a little generator and he'd plug that in and we'd have, like, three things we could use. But that was that.

Joe Rogan 46:16 Wow.

Robert Oberst 46:16 Like, the hot water heater would work for the weekend and then, like, maybe the TV on Saturday night or something, like, f- TGIF or something.

Joe Rogan 46:23 Fuck.

Robert Oberst 46:23 But I mean, it wasn't, I mean, as a kid, it's not that big of a deal, you know? Like, you just go play with your brothers outside.

Joe Rogan 46:29 Right.

Robert Oberst 46:29 So, but, like, I never knew what strongman was because of that. I mean, I had no idea. So he was obsessed with it and he kept trying to get me to do it, and then, uh, went, went home and Googled it, checked it out. Actually, I don't know if it was Google. I might've YouTubed it. Back then, who was, who knows what we had. But, um, you know, I'd, I was excited and went and tried it out and first day, the amateur world record at log press was, like, 320 pounds at the time and I, I had no idea, but the first day, I hit 330 pounds and just-

Joe Rogan 47:03 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 47:03 ... put it down and I looked over at my buddy and I was like, "You know, how'd that look?" And he's like, "Get the fuck outta here." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:08 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 47:08 And I'm like, he's been trying his whole life to do this.

Joe Rogan 47:11 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 47:11 I just stood, came in and took it. And then, uh, eight months later, I mean, six months later, I was competing in England and I had my pro card. Two months after that, I was in China at that photo right there, World's Strongest Man, and I was the only rookie in the finals.

Joe Rogan 47:24 So is it... The log thing, is it the, the awkwardness of, like, holding-

Robert Oberst 47:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:28 ... onto a log and getting it under your hands and...

Robert Oberst 47:30 Yeah. And it's, it's actually, it's a lot healthier for your shoulders. Instead of being, uh, how would you call that with your hands right there, instead of sup-

Joe Rogan 47:37 Proneated-

Robert Oberst 47:38 Proneated?

Joe Rogan 47:38 ... or supinated?

Robert Oberst 47:38 Supinated? Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:39 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 47:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:39 I don't... I forget which one is which.

Robert Oberst 47:40 Yeah, we're the worst.

Joe Rogan 47:41 I like it when trainers use that, though.

Robert Oberst 47:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:43 I go, "Oh, you know what you're talking about."

Robert Oberst 47:44 This guy's got his shit together.

Joe Rogan 47:46 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 47:46 This fat dude eating french fries. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:48 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 47:49 So, um, yeah, I mean, um-

Joe Rogan 47:51 So it's better for you? To do it that way.

Robert Oberst 47:52 It's, it's much better for your wrists and your shoulders.

Joe Rogan 47:54 Makes sense.

Robert Oberst 47:55 And- and also, like, that's what my-

Joe Rogan 47:57 There it goes. Jamie's showing us.

Robert Oberst 47:58 Neutral grip.

Joe Rogan 47:58 Proneated grip, supinated grip.

Robert Oberst 48:00 Right.

Joe Rogan 48:00 So yeah.

Robert Oberst 48:01 Neutral grip is much better for your wrists and shoulders.

Joe Rogan 48:04 Mm. Oh, okay, like, so handles, like this. They say that-

Robert Oberst 48:07 Right.

Joe Rogan 48:07 ... with bench press as well.

Robert Oberst 48:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:08 Like those, uh, benches, the- they have new bars that have handles.

Robert Oberst 48:11 The football bars from Rogue?

Joe Rogan 48:12 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 48:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:13 Yeah, those are dope.

Robert Oberst 48:13 They're awesome.

Joe Rogan 48:14 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 48:14 Awesome. Rogue makes good equipment.

Joe Rogan 48:15 Yeah, I use all their shit, at my house and here.

Robert Oberst 48:17 I know. I was looking.

Joe Rogan 48:18 And then they don't pay me and, uh, it's not free.

Robert Oberst 48:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:20 I buy all of it.

Robert Oberst 48:21 Same here.

Joe Rogan 48:21 They're the best.

Robert Oberst 48:21 I don't work with them either, but they're the best.

Joe Rogan 48:23 Yeah, it's the best shit.

Robert Oberst 48:25 So, um, I, we went to Worlds and then... Oh yeah, I was, I totally lost the whole getting hurt thing.

Joe Rogan 48:30 So you won the- what... First of all, you beat the fucking world record log press the first time out.

Robert Oberst 48:34 Amateur world record. Amateur, amateur world record.

Joe Rogan 48:36 Like, fuck ever.

Robert Oberst 48:36 Yeah. (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:38 (laughs) Your first-

Robert Oberst 48:38 Amateur.

Joe Rogan 48:38 ... attempt. That's hilarious.

Robert Oberst 48:39 Yeah. So it was good, my t- and then-

Joe Rogan 48:41 What's the pro record?

Robert Oberst 48:43 Right now, the, the American record's been mine for four years, and that was 211 kilos and that's-

Joe Rogan 48:50 What is that, pound wise?

Robert Oberst 48:50 ... fucking 468.

Joe Rogan 48:52 (groans)

Robert Oberst 48:53 Something like that.

Joe Rogan 48:54 Is this you here?

Robert Oberst 48:55 This is me, yeah. This is in Australia in front of Arnold.

Joe Rogan 48:59 Jesus Christ.

Robert Oberst 49:00 Oh wait, that's him.

Joe Rogan 49:01 Arnold was there?

Robert Oberst 49:01 Yeah, that's his show.

Joe Rogan 49:02 Ya, ya, ya.

Robert Oberst 49:03 That's his competition.

Joe Rogan 49:04 "This is my competition." This is, so this is a log press right here?

Robert Oberst 49:08 Yup. And that's a skinny log, too. This one's a hard log to use. But, uh, this was... A buddy of mine had that record and he passed away, and I wanted to be the one to take it from him after he had died, and that, that was this moment.

Joe Rogan 49:20 Jesus Christ, that looks heavy.

Robert Oberst 49:21 And you show me show off a little bit, too. I like to do this after I get it up.

Joe Rogan 49:28 Wow, so that's the world record?

Robert Oberst 49:29 That all, American record.

Joe Rogan 49:31 Who's the world record?

Robert Oberst 49:32 The world record, I like to hold it up there and talk shit.

Joe Rogan 49:35 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 49:35 Because it's it, it's and oh, every time you see a record broken, the guy gets it to here and then he just throws it down.

Joe Rogan 49:40 Right.

Robert Oberst 49:41 I'm like, "That don't count. That doesn't count." So the, the world record is, uh-... 219 kilos, I believe. Something like that, something, something right around there. It might have been two, 220.

Joe Rogan 49:51 How close are y- are you to that?

Robert Oberst 49:53 I can, I can break it right now.

Joe Rogan 49:54 Yeah?

Robert Oberst 49:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:54 Whoa.

Robert Oberst 49:55 In January-

Joe Rogan 49:56 Break that shit, Robert.

Robert Oberst 49:57 ... I will.

Joe Rogan 49:57 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 49:57 I'm going to London. He's a little introverted.

Joe Rogan 49:58 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 49:58 I'm gonna give London a little introduction to Texas, uh, uh, what do you call it? Texas pride and-

Joe Rogan 50:04 Texas powerlifting.

Robert Oberst 50:05 For sure.

Joe Rogan 50:05 Wow.

Robert Oberst 50:06 I'm excited.

Joe Rogan 50:07 So you go and you break the American amateur record right away.

Robert Oberst 50:11 Right.

Joe Rogan 50:11 First, first attempt out. And is that when you felt like, "Fuck, I could do this shit"?

Robert Oberst 50:16 Yeah. I went home and, uh, I told my, my, my fiance at the time.

Joe Rogan 50:20 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 50:20 We, we were living in a studio and we were just broke. And I was volunteer coaching and I was, uh, for high school, which is my passion, high school football. And then I was working at that club at night. So I didn't have a lot of time, but I was like, "I can make this happen." Like, with, with my personality and this is a platform, I can do this. And everybody kept telling me, "There's no money in Strongman. There isn't any." And there really wasn't. There wasn't like, there was no money in Strongman until I made money in Strongman, like-

Joe Rogan 50:48 Really?

Robert Oberst 50:49 ... brought it into... There were several other people, but, like, what we did was we cultivated a whole new era of Strongman. Whereas before, like, even, like, Pudzianowski was a guy who got a lot of attention 'cause he looked just shredded.

Joe Rogan 51:02 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 51:02 You know, jacked. But h- I mean, if you, if you, he's got like a Cribs episode that they did in Poland, and he's got this tiny little house with, like, little knickknacks and stuff he's so proud of. It's really weird. It's crazy. But, like, like, even then, he's five-time World's Strongest Man winner. There, there's really no money in that.

Joe Rogan 51:18 I would've thought he would've been balling out of control.

Robert Oberst 51:20 You would think so.

Joe Rogan 51:20 'Cause I know who he is. I feel like if I know who you are and you do something on TV, you must be rich.

Robert Oberst 51:24 Yeah, exactly.

Joe Rogan 51:26 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 51:26 That, that's, that's the rapper's, uh, display.

Joe Rogan 51:28 Yeah, exactly.

Robert Oberst 51:29 Like, "I'm flying in first class," and then you catch Little Bow Wow in the back.

Joe Rogan 51:32 Well, I remember one of the weird things that I read about Pudzianowski is how much candy he eats.

Robert Oberst 51:36 Huh.

Joe Rogan 51:36 Yeah, that he really likes, uh, candy in between workouts because he's blowing out so much sugar-

Robert Oberst 51:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:42 ... that he would eat chocolate bars.

Robert Oberst 51:44 That makes sense.

Joe Rogan 51:44 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 51:45 We do a lot of, of like, I do peanut butter and honey-

Joe Rogan 51:47 Oh, okay.

Robert Oberst 51:47 ... and stuff like that. During competition, peanut butter and honey or Snickers bars.

Joe Rogan 51:50 Really?

Robert Oberst 51:51 Yeah, and I don't-

Joe Rogan 51:51 And when you eat peanut butter and honey, do you eat it with a spoon? Like, what do you, how do you-

Robert Oberst 51:54 I usually make the sandwiches. I see guys just pouring honey in their mouth, like the Russian guys.

Joe Rogan 51:59 Wow.

Robert Oberst 51:59 There's a Russian guy who was, uh, Russian Secret Service for a while, and this-

Joe Rogan 52:04 Uh-oh.

Robert Oberst 52:04 Oh, yeah. Like, you look in his eyes and you're like, "This motherfucker-"

Joe Rogan 52:07 Murderer.

Robert Oberst 52:07 "... has done some bad things."

Joe Rogan 52:08 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 52:08 (laughs) But he's the nicest dude in the world. He's, he's like the sweetest guy. He comes, like, he always comes over and talks to me and my family. And he's, he doesn't speak good English, but he's really nice about trying to get his point across and everything, and, but, um, yeah, that, that, that guy's done probably scary shit.

Joe Rogan 52:23 Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm sure. So-

Robert Oberst 52:25 There's a lot of that 'cause we compete with people from all around the world, you know, and, you know, we, uh, we tend to forget that everywhere else, there's a lot of, it's, it's normal almost to be like that in some places.

Joe Rogan 52:36 Right, to survive.

Robert Oberst 52:37 Right.

Joe Rogan 52:37 And if you're a giant dude, it's probably the best way to make a living.

Robert Oberst 52:41 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 52:41 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 52:42 You know?

Joe Rogan 52:42 And so they just squirt honey in their mouth?

Robert Oberst 52:44 Yeah, they'll just pour, like, like, a whole little canister of honey and just take that. You see guys do that right before they go lift and stuff.

Joe Rogan 52:51 Mm-hmm.

Robert Oberst 52:52 I'm, I, uh, the, the way I grew up and the, the way I did things, like, I was always taught and it, and it kind of worked with being broke, but, like, a warrior goes to war hungry.

Joe Rogan 53:01 Mm-hmm.

Robert Oberst 53:02 That's, like, in football, I would never eat before a game, ever. And then, um, got into Strongman and I did that for a long time, and I got up to 440 pounds, and I would, I would do an entire show, like, f- five, six hours without eating.

Joe Rogan 53:17 Mm-hmm.

Robert Oberst 53:17 But then during it, I would snack a little bit, but I would never eat a meal.

Joe Rogan 53:20 Right.

Robert Oberst 53:21 'Cause then-

Joe Rogan 53:22 'Cause the, the resources, it eats up your resources, right?

Robert Oberst 53:24 Right, and, and-

Joe Rogan 53:25 You know?

Robert Oberst 53:26 ... (sighs) and see, for me, it felt like anything in my stomach just made me feel s- like slow.

Joe Rogan 53:31 Mm-hmm, yeah.

Robert Oberst 53:32 You know?

Joe Rogan 53:32 That's what I'm saying, yeah. Too, that's the same with comedy too.

Robert Oberst 53:35 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 53:35 I learned that from Katt Williams, watching an interview with him. Just don't eat before you go on stage. I'm like, "That makes sense."

Robert Oberst 53:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:41 You're better off being hungry.

Robert Oberst 53:42 Right, exactly.

Joe Rogan 53:42 Hunters do that too. The best hunters, they hunt hungry.

Robert Oberst 53:45 Yeah. See, and then, but what happened to me was I lost 80 pounds. That was 440, I lost 80 pounds, and when I got hurt in Botswana, I lost all that weight and then-

Joe Rogan 53:55 Just because of the bicep tear?

Robert Oberst 53:57 No, I d- I chose to do that. See, um, um, when I graduated high school, I was 370 pounds, so I've always been a big dude. But I got up to 440, and just walking around was laborious, you know?

Joe Rogan 54:07 Mm-hmm.

Robert Oberst 54:07 It was just, I felt, like, fucking horrible, breathing heavy.

Joe Rogan 54:10 How big were you when you did that log press?

Robert Oberst 54:12 That log press, that was like, like, 425-ish, 430.

Joe Rogan 54:17 Mm-hmm.

Robert Oberst 54:17 Right around that, so, like, I gained a little bit more after that. I just, everyone tells you in this sport, the bigger you are, the stronger you are. And that kind of holds true to static lifting, like kind of. It's not necessary all the time, but it kind of holds true. But we gotta move, man.

Joe Rogan 54:32 Mm-hmm.

Robert Oberst 54:32 Like, we're talking about pulling a truck and doing load events and all that stuff. When, when you're 440 and your body's not agreeing with that 440, it just, it holds you back.

Joe Rogan 54:42 You wanna imagine the load on your joints too.

Robert Oberst 54:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:44 It's particularly lower back, knees.

Robert Oberst 54:46 Yeah, my low back was bad.

Joe Rogan 54:48 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 54:48 So that's what happened. I, I got hurt and I felt like I was done, 'cause my low back, I, I'd have to take me, like, 45 minutes to get out of bed in the morning.

Joe Rogan 54:56 Really?

Robert Oberst 54:56 Oh, yeah. I was messed up, man. Really bad. And then-

Joe Rogan 54:59 Did you get an MRI?

Robert Oberst 55:01 I never got an MRI and didn't. I'm scared to.

Joe Rogan 55:03 Suck it up.

Robert Oberst 55:04 (laughs) Exactly.

Joe Rogan 55:05 Move it.

Robert Oberst 55:05 Just fucking roll.

Joe Rogan 55:06 Then how'd you fix it?

Robert Oberst 55:07 (sniffs) Uh, I, when I lost weight, it got better, and it's core strength for me now.

Joe Rogan 55:11 Oh.

Robert Oberst 55:11 Core strength and stretching, and also, I smoke weed. Like, a lot of, a lot of athletes are against it and a lot of people think that there's some, like, negative connotation with being, like, someone who smokes weed, but I, I mean, I'm watching guys take Vicodin like it's Skittles. I'm watching guys-

Joe Rogan 55:26 Mm-hmm.

Robert Oberst 55:26 I've seen guys throw away their lives, their families, their career over a bunch of pills because they didn't wanna smoke. (gasps) And it's, it's crazy, you know?

Joe Rogan 55:35 It is crazy, yeah.

Robert Oberst 55:35 And we actually officially got World's Strongest Man to take marijuana off of the drug testing.

Joe Rogan 55:39 Oh, that, uh, wait, wait, wait, wait. There's drug testing-

Robert Oberst 55:42 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:42 ... in World's Strongest Man?

Robert Oberst 55:43 Yeah, every year.

Joe Rogan 55:43 Are they making sure you're on steroids?

Robert Oberst 55:45 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:46 They're like, "We have to test you."

Robert Oberst 55:47 No.

Joe Rogan 55:47 "Make sure you're strong."

Robert Oberst 55:48 (laughs) No, they test those-

Joe Rogan 55:50 What the fuck kind of bitch-ass shit are you taking?

Robert Oberst 55:52 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:52 Do you see?

Robert Oberst 55:53 Not enough drugs in the sky system.

Joe Rogan 55:55 Do you know, do you know who Robert Frank is? The, uh-

Robert Oberst 55:57 That sounds familiar.

Joe Rogan 55:58 He's the, he's a hilarious, uh, uh, Instagram guy.

Robert Oberst 56:02 I, I, I can't recall, but it sounds really familiar. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:04 Uh, he's, he's really funny, man. He's, he's like...

Robert Oberst 56:07 He talks like this.

Joe Rogan 56:08 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 56:08 He's got ... He's really fast.

Joe Rogan 56:09 Yes, yes.

Robert Oberst 56:10 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 56:10 He's, he's got this fucking hilarious rant about, uh, someone getting the girl pregnant and taking responsibility. And he, and he goes, he goes, "I have to ask you," he goes, "If you're trying to get jacked and tan, what kinda gear are you on? I have to question your gear if you're getting your girl pregnant!"

Robert Oberst 56:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 56:27 "What kinda swimmers do you have?"

Robert Oberst 56:29 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 56:30 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 56:31 That guy's got so much energy. I know exactly who you're talking about.

Joe Rogan 56:33 Well, he gets ... He's another one.

Robert Oberst 56:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 56:35 He gets censored off of Instagram all the time. They pull his posts and they ... He's got a million followers and they won't give him a fucking blue check mark.

Robert Oberst 56:42 That's ridiculous.

Joe Rogan 56:43 Because-

Robert Oberst 56:43 People don't understand, that's, that's our livelihood. A lot of people, that's ... Social media is-

Joe Rogan 56:47 Yes.

Robert Oberst 56:47 ... how we feed our fucking family.

Joe Rogan 56:49 Well, also, he's fucking funny.

Robert Oberst 56:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:51 But he's funny with toxic masculinity.

Robert Oberst 56:55 Right, right. But-

Joe Rogan 56:55 He's toxic.

Robert Oberst 56:57 Because his opinion's different, we're not allowed to have it.

Joe Rogan 56:59 Well because he's, he's jacked and tan.

Robert Oberst 57:00 Yeah, exactly.

Joe Rogan 57:00 That's it right there. (laughs)

Robert Oberst 57:01 Yeah. He's not tan, he has red.

Joe Rogan 57:03 He's ... Play it. Play this. Play this.

Robert Oberst 57:04 That motherfucker's red.

Joe Rogan 57:05 He's funny, man.

Robert Oberst 57:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:06 He's funny. Put-

Bro Science Life (Dom Mazzetti) 57:07 It's the International Chest Day, the most glorious day of the week.

Joe Rogan 57:09 Chest day.

Bro Science Life (Dom Mazzetti) 57:10 And before I get these pecs so swole, every chick on the cardio deck will want a piece of my pole. I wanna tell you a story about a bro-

Joe Rogan 57:14 Shh.

Bro Science Life (Dom Mazzetti) 57:14 ... who said I ruined his life.

Joe Rogan 57:15 (laughs)

Bro Science Life (Dom Mazzetti) 57:15 He said my videos give him the motivation to get juicy as fuck, and he shows up to the bar every weekend with his guns hugging the sleeves of his medium deep V-neck tees.

Joe Rogan 57:22 God that's so funny. (laughs)

Bro Science Life (Dom Mazzetti) 57:22 And he's nailing hos from different area codes like a fucking boss. Problem is, one of them called him up saying she's pregnant. Now he's blaming me for introducing her to the game. First of all, who the fuck told you to go rawdogging it? And if that's how you roll, there's plenty of other techniques for when you get the freaks in the sheets, like the sticky belly or sticky lower back. Perfect methods for when you get the hos on the sack.

Joe Rogan 57:37 (laughs)

Bro Science Life (Dom Mazzetti) 57:38 Words I've been told since I was four years old, that in days of old and nights were bold and condoms weren't invented, they tied a sock around their (beep) and babies were prevented. And to this day, I still carry an extra sock in my back pocket.

Joe Rogan 57:47 (laughs)

Bro Science Life (Dom Mazzetti) 57:47 Because you never know when she's gonna want to rock it. But when she does, I'm gonna blast off on that ass.

Robert Oberst 57:51 (laughs)

Bro Science Life (Dom Mazzetti) 57:51 Because I'm Robert fucking Frank, and I'm the women's pet-

Joe Rogan 57:53 (laughs)

Bro Science Life (Dom Mazzetti) 57:53 ... and I'm man's biggest threat. And what my night has in store is to get some big booty whore on all fucking fours with her cheek pressed up against my bedroom floor.

Robert Oberst 57:59 Oh my God.

Bro Science Life (Dom Mazzetti) 57:59 And you best believe that I'm coming back and down with it like a motherfucking sandwich.

Robert Oberst 58:01 You think he writes that all himself?

Joe Rogan 58:02 I think so. (laughs)

Bro Science Life (Dom Mazzetti) 58:04 Swole is the goal, size is the prize. It's Gainesville clock, motherfucker. Let's get it.

Joe Rogan 58:11 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 58:11 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:12 It's, it's funny shit, man. It's-

Robert Oberst 58:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:14 It's fucking funny shit. And he, he can't get a, a ... He can't get approved. And they, they've d- done it through publicists. They've tried to get him, uh ... What is it? Recognized? What is it called? Verified.

Robert Oberst 58:25 Verified. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:26 Try to get him verified. Ke- try to get that blue check mark next to his name.

Robert Oberst 58:29 It's silly, man. I mean, my ... I'm ... I don't know how that even works. Somebody-

Joe Rogan 58:32 He's too big.

Robert Oberst 58:32 Somebody did mine for me.

Joe Rogan 58:33 Too much muscle.

Robert Oberst 58:34 Yeah. I mean, it-

Joe Rogan 58:35 Well, you can do it because you're not making fun of things.

Robert Oberst 58:37 Well, I'm just-

Joe Rogan 58:37 He's making fun of things and talking about getting his cock sucked.

Robert Oberst 58:39 ... I'm fucking pretty, is what it is.

Joe Rogan 58:40 You are. And strong.

Robert Oberst 58:41 That's about damn it.

Joe Rogan 58:41 Strong and pretty.

Robert Oberst 58:42 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:42 That's perfect.

Robert Oberst 58:43 No, it's, it's silly that they do that, though, you know? It almost ... Uh, I mean, if you look historically back, every time they've done that, those people have gotten more power. Like all-

Joe Rogan 58:52 Yes.

Robert Oberst 58:52 All you're doing is feeding that guy. So in 10 years when you look like the asshole that censored him, he's gonna be 10 times that.

Joe Rogan 58:59 Well, especially now that we're talking about him.

Robert Oberst 59:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:01 Yeah. I mean-

Robert Oberst 59:01 Which is good.

Joe Rogan 59:01 Yeah. It is good.

Robert Oberst 59:02 It's good that this exists, man.

Joe Rogan 59:03 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 59:03 It's fucking good.

Joe Rogan 59:04 I think so. I thi-

Robert Oberst 59:05 A lot of people appreciate it.

Joe Rogan 59:06 Well, I think this is a weird time where you can't ... Y- you're having people dictate what you can and can't say, what is and isn't val- is and isn't valid.

Robert Oberst 59:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:14 And it's just that seems like nonsense to me.

Robert Oberst 59:16 Like we're moving backwards.

Joe Rogan 59:18 Especially with something like that. He's being funny.

Robert Oberst 59:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:21 Like, he's funny. He makes me laugh. Leave him alone.

Robert Oberst 59:22 We're allowed to make jokes. Yeah. We are.

Joe Rogan 59:24 What the fuck, man?

Robert Oberst 59:26 Even bad jokes, man.

Joe Rogan 59:27 Even bad jokes by juice heads.

Robert Oberst 59:28 Yes.

Joe Rogan 59:29 Like, it's funny.

Robert Oberst 59:29 Exactly. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:30 And he talks about being a juice head. It's, it's hilarious.

Robert Oberst 59:33 D- uh, my first introduction to comedy, I, I loved ... Growing up, I was a huge fan of Richard Pryor and all that stuff. I ... A huge fan of, uh, of Carlin. I just ... Big fan of ... I even liked, uh, what was his name? Jeff Foxworthy.

Joe Rogan 59:46 I love Foxworthy.

Robert Oberst 59:47 He was great. And, um, my first time I ever got to see a show, I came in, I had moved into LA and a buddy of mine brought me to see you and Uncle Joey.

Joe Rogan 59:56 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 59:56 And I was like, "Holy fuck." I couldn't ... First, Joe comes out there and you can't even breathe.

Joe Rogan 1:00:02 I know. (laughs)

Robert Oberst 1:00:02 When Joe's going, you don't get a second. It's like, "Goddamn."

Joe Rogan 1:00:05 He's an animal. He's got some shit right now, like, if you get a chance while you're in town, you get ... He's got some new shit that, uh, we were falling on the ground crying the other night.

Robert Oberst 1:00:14 Oh, yeah. I'll come check him out. And-

Joe Rogan 1:00:15 He's the best ever.

Robert Oberst 1:00:16 He crushes.

Joe Rogan 1:00:17 Yeah.

Robert Oberst 1:00:17 He crushes. I don't-

Joe Rogan 1:00:18 No one ... No one's, like, funnier in bursts. You might get, you know, guys who are really good joke writers, guys who are really funny, guys who are like, they're, they're valid in terms of our culture. But no one's funnier than Joey Diaz.

Robert Oberst 1:00:31 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:00:32 No one.

Robert Oberst 1:00:32 No. No. The whole room. Like, it was like we were uncomfortable. We couldn't stop laughing.

Joe Rogan 1:00:36 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 1:00:36 You know? He's so damn good. We were g- ... And then when you went up, it was like so ... It was ... It's a whole different style. But it's, like, super, like, along the way that I think about how, like, you're introspective and comparative with different things and stuff. And the way you make people, like, look at something in a different angle, and then you poke fun of the way that you originally thought about it, you know? (laughs) And that's at least how that set was. But it was ... I mean, I'd ... Being in a live audience is so different than watching a special on TV.

Joe Rogan 1:01:04 Oh, yeah.

Robert Oberst 1:01:04 And stuff. It's-

Joe Rogan 1:01:05 It's way better. Well, I met you in the Belly Room, which is one of the best places to do standup.

Robert Oberst 1:01:09 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:01:09 Remember the last Tiny Room?

Robert Oberst 1:01:10 Yeah, yeah. I did a set in the Belly Room.

Joe Rogan 1:01:11 Did you really?

Robert Oberst 1:01:12 I've been, I've been on stage once. And I did ... No ... In the ... Yeah, the Belly Room. Yeah, yeah. I went up there and did the ... It was story time. And, um, uh, Tate Fletcher and, um ... Oh, man, I can't remember who else. A bunch of people just kept telling me, like ... Like, "Just go up there and tell a story. Just go tell a story." And I was like, "All right, there's no cameras in here, right?" (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01:31 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 1:01:31 Like, I can tell a real story or what kind of story are we talking about?

Joe Rogan 1:01:35 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 1:01:35 But, um, they got me up there and I, I did six minutes. They gave (laughs) , they gave me four and I ran on for six. I didn't know what the lights meant and I was just talking.

Joe Rogan 1:01:43 Oh.

Robert Oberst 1:01:43 You know? I didn't know. And, uh, I told a story about being in China and we thought we were gonna go to jail in China and stuff. And it was fucking hilarious.

Joe Rogan 1:01:50 What happened in China?

Robert Oberst 1:01:51 Uh, that, that year you saw me in the picture, we, we got done with World's Strongest Man and we do like a, a celebration. We all go to dinner and all that stuff. And I was, I was fucking excited, 'cause I, I was the only rookie in the finals. I was super excited. So I'm hammered drunk.

Joe Rogan 1:02:06 (laughs)

Robert Oberst 1:02:06 And just (laughs) like ... And you're in China and then little things start to click. You see people all wearing like the, the Communist uniform, like that they have. They were celebrating ... I don't know if it's called Communism Day or whatever. But they celebrate that and, and like-... a- almost the entire city. Uh, we were in Sanya, which is a little island, which is, like, their kind of vacation island. And, um, but they were... Almost everybody was dressed in those uniforms. And I'm drunk and, like, I'm looking around, I'm starting to feel uncomfortable. And we finally... We get up to go and we all get on this bus. And the guy who runs World's Strongest Man is, is a very old man. He's, he's gotta be, like, in his 90s, right? But he's, he's, uh, needs help moving around, all that kinda stuff. We get on the bus and, uh, we're setting up and the camera crew left all their stuff on the front seat, which is, which is the, the older guy's seat, you know? We make sure that he has that seat, you know. And, um, we get in and we're trying to h- uh, finagle like the... Uh, well, not finagle. We're trying to be assertive but nice to the, the camera crew that they have to move back. And they were... They didn't speak English at the moment, you know, and they were, they were acting like they just didn't understand. They were, they were being really rude about it. And, uh, Nick Best, who's actually on the TV show with me, um, he came over and he picked