Joe Rogan Experience #1324 - Ian Edwards

Joe Rogan 0:00 (humming) Boom! Ian Edwards, the ever, the contrarian, shows up with an Android phone, drinking tea.

Ian Edwards 0:08 (laughs) Gangster son. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:09 Crazy. He just followed no rules, man.

Ian Edwards 0:11 Still vegan, baby. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:13 (laughs) Sort of. You had some french fries with David Lee Roth that were made with clearly-

Ian Edwards 0:18 A legend. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:18 ... with some animal fat. Uh, Jamie, you were there. What did you see?

Narrator 0:22 I saw a french fry or two.

Joe Rogan 0:23 Yeah.

Narrator 0:23 Disappeared in my life.

Joe Rogan 0:24 Listen, up at MGM Steakhouse, they ain't cooking that fucking... Those french fries in anything other than animal fat. Guaranteed. They're too delicious.

Ian Edwards 0:32 I didn't see it. I didn't see it.

Joe Rogan 0:34 Even at McDonald's. If you get McDonald's fries, apparently they cook them in some fucking disgusting fat.

Ian Edwards 0:40 Well, that's what makes them taste so good.

Joe Rogan 0:42 (sighs) What does make McDonald's fries taste good, they're pretty good, but they're not my favorite. I don't-

Ian Edwards 0:46 They're not?

Joe Rogan 0:47 I get confused when people say they're better than In-N-Out fries.

Narrator 0:50 Oh, what? How?

Joe Rogan 0:50 I like fries that taste like potatoes.

Ian Edwards 0:53 Oh yeah?

Narrator 0:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:54 In-N-Out, In-N-Out fries are far superior.

Ian Edwards 0:56 I don't like fries that taste like potatoes.

Narrator 0:58 How dare you?

Joe Rogan 1:00 (laughs) Look at... What? This is the most upset I've ever seen Jamie in all my years working with him.

Ian Edwards 1:05 (laughs)

Narrator 1:06 In-N-Out fries are better than McDonald's.

Joe Rogan 1:09 I do personally feel like... You know who I, I had beef with that about?

Ian Edwards 1:12 Hilarious.

Joe Rogan 1:13 Kandy Alexander from, uh, News Radio. She was the first person to... Like, we went and got In-N-Out, like, for the whole s- the whole group of us.

Ian Edwards 1:20 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:20 And, um, uh, she o- got McDonald's fries. She went and got McDonald's fries. I'm going, "Why'd you get McDonald's fries?" She's like, "Fuck those bullshit fries, those In-N-Out fries." I'm like, "What?" I didn't understand.

Ian Edwards 1:32 (laughs)

Narrator 1:32 They can be okay, but they're so hit or miss that they can miss bad.

Joe Rogan 1:37 To me, they're remarkably consistent. They always-

Ian Edwards 1:40 Remarkably? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:40 ... taste like potatoes.

Narrator 1:41 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 1:41 What are we discussing here? Fries are remark- It's like wine, remarkably tasty. (laughs) So it's kind of sorted.

Joe Rogan 1:46 Well, still they can't fuck with Five Guys' fries. Five Guys are the king of fries.

Ian Edwards 1:50 For real?

Joe Rogan 1:51 Because yes, they have two options.

Narrator 1:52 Yeah, those are real. Yeah.

Ian Edwards 1:52 Oh yeah?

Joe Rogan 1:52 They have c- they're real. They have the fucking potatoes in bags-

Ian Edwards 1:56 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:56 ... sitting in their goddamn store just to let you know, "Bitch, we're using these potatoes." And then they take that bag and shake it in there and cut it up. Um, they have Cajun fries.

Ian Edwards 2:05 Mm.

Joe Rogan 2:05 So they win. You have another option. You got spicy fries that are goddamn delicious.

Ian Edwards 2:10 I might have to stop by there.

Joe Rogan 2:11 And then you don't have to crack packets (imitates fart) to get your ketchup. (imitates fart) They have a giant tub of the ketchup and you squirt that bitch in a nice little cup, a little paper cup.

Ian Edwards 2:22 You can shower-

Joe Rogan 2:23 McDonald's doesn't have that.

Ian Edwards 2:23 ... in ketchup.

Joe Rogan 2:24 If McDonald's had that, homeless people would be under it squirting mustard in their mouth. (laughs)

Ian Edwards 2:33 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:33 I'll tell you what, man. Since, um, Starbucks got in trouble for being racist, um, there's a lot more homeless people at Starbucks. Like they understand now.

Ian Edwards 2:41 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:41 They could just go there. It's really, it's really odd.

Ian Edwards 2:44 That's so funny.

Joe Rogan 2:45 It's true.

Ian Edwards 2:45 They can't get kicked out.

Joe Rogan 2:46 They can't get kicked out.

Ian Edwards 2:47 Everybody's afraid.

Joe Rogan 2:48 Dude, it's, it's 100% different. 100% different in some spots.

Narrator 2:51 Like which ones are you going to? Because the ones in Hollywood, they know how to handle it for the most part, because they got locks and everything.

Joe Rogan 2:56 Yeah. I went to a shifty one in downtown where, uh, they, they don't even have a bathroom. I'm like, "How are you serving coffee and you don't have a bathroom?"

Ian Edwards 3:03 Right.

Joe Rogan 3:03 Coffee makes you shit and piss.

Ian Edwards 3:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:05 This is ridiculous. But I realized they didn't have a bathroom because of the homeless people. There was homeless people that had like... This guy had a port and he was charging all of his devices. He had everything. He had like a phone, a fucking iPad.

Ian Edwards 3:16 He's got a long night ahead of him.

Joe Rogan 3:18 But they get free electricity there.

Ian Edwards 3:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:19 And they... So he's got like a bag of his stuff. Like he's got a little camp in the corner of the Starbucks. I'm like, "Wow." On one hand, like, hey, how's a guy supposed to get some electricity?

Ian Edwards 3:29 Right.

Joe Rogan 3:29 I want him to get back up on his feet. Maybe this is the way to do it. Maybe it's through that iPad.

Ian Edwards 3:33 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 3:33 On the other hand, I'm like, "Hey, don't give me a disease, you fucking..."

Ian Edwards 3:38 (laughs)

Narrator 3:38 I got, uh, hip to this Instagram account yesterday. Street People of Los Angeles, which has got some very interesting content.

Joe Rogan 3:44 Is that a naked person?

Narrator 3:45 Yes, it is.

Joe Rogan 3:46 A naked person just changing on the street?

Narrator 3:48 Just changing on the street. That was actually in San Francisco, I think. I remember checking that post, but-

Joe Rogan 3:51 Wow.

Narrator 3:52 ... this has got some interesting stuff. These guys were like cooking underneath a tree on a... With like a live grill, right, somewhere, but-

Ian Edwards 3:59 There's a Tommy's in Hollywood.

Joe Rogan 4:01 Look at that one. Sorry, go ahead. Tommy's on Holmes?

Ian Edwards 4:03 And, uh, there's always like a bunch of young homeless people cooking in front of it. Like, there's a bus stop. They have a lit fire, like cavemen, like, like, like Fear of the Walking Dead style campfire.

Joe Rogan 4:19 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 4:19 Like outside of the Tommy's on Hollywood Boulevard, like on a daily basis.

Joe Rogan 4:23 How weird.

Ian Edwards 4:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:24 It's just weird that that's okay. Like if you just wanted to start a fire on the side of the road, would that be okay?

Narrator 4:31 No.

Joe Rogan 4:31 No. But can you start a fire to cook?

Ian Edwards 4:34 Apparently.

Joe Rogan 4:35 Can you or did they just not get busted?

Narrator 4:37 You probably need a permit.

Joe Rogan 4:38 Yeah, I would think you'd need something.

Narrator 4:39 Like a... To be like a grill, street vendor type permit.

Joe Rogan 4:43 If you wanted to sell. But what if you just wanted to give food away?

Narrator 4:46 You can't do that.

Joe Rogan 4:47 You can't, but you could eat it yourself.

Narrator 4:49 Mm, I don't know.

Joe Rogan 4:51 Could you offer it to... (laughs)

Ian Edwards 4:52 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:53 It seems like you could offer it to somebody. Like, you know, if they allow you to cook and you and I were sitting there and we're cooking-

Ian Edwards 4:59 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 4:59 ... and I said, "Would you like some?" And you said, "Sure, that looks good."

Ian Edwards 5:02 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:02 That should be okay.

Ian Edwards 5:03 Yeah, it's like a donation. You know how some places-

Joe Rogan 5:05 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 5:05 ... they don't charge you to get in, but they accept a donation?

Joe Rogan 5:08 But what if you plan it in advance? You say, "Hey, all of us meet on the corner of 3rd and Santa Monica. I'm gonna have a cookout."

Ian Edwards 5:15 (laughs) That'd be kinda funny.

Joe Rogan 5:16 And like, "Where's your house?" "Oh, no, no, no. No house, son."

Ian Edwards 5:19 It's hilarious.

Joe Rogan 5:19 We're just setting up right here on the concrete."

Ian Edwards 5:21 Yeah, those du- people should just go to a park that has those grills.

Joe Rogan 5:24 Right.

Ian Edwards 5:24 Like, Griffith Park is not far.

Joe Rogan 5:26 Right. Griffith Park is like people with homes cook there.

Ian Edwards 5:30 Yeah, they got free grills.

Joe Rogan 5:31 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 5:31 You could just do it up there.

Joe Rogan 5:32 Anybody can cook there.

Ian Edwards 5:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:34 That is one of the nicest parts of LA, by the way.

Ian Edwards 5:36 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 5:36 And if people don't know, that is a fucking wildlife area. That's a legit wildlife area.

Ian Edwards 5:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:43 There is a real predator prey fucking law of the jungle thing going down right now in Griffith Park. It's mountain lions and deer.

Ian Edwards 5:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:52 And it is going down every day.

Ian Edwards 5:54 And coyotes.

Joe Rogan 5:56 And coyotes. You are doing all your stuff. It's a really amazing place, right? Because here we are, we got Pasadena and Glendale and Burbank and LA, you know, beautiful. Fucking BMWs driving by.

Ian Edwards 6:07 Teslas.

Joe Rogan 6:07 Everything's cool. People are jogging. They got AirPods in.

Ian Edwards 6:11 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:11 They're jogging in Griffith Park. They're jogging right near a war zone.

Ian Edwards 6:15 Yeah, I hear-

Joe Rogan 6:15 It's a war zone.

Ian Edwards 6:16 ... bushes rustling sometimes-

Joe Rogan 6:17 Oh.

Ian Edwards 6:17 ... because I live around the corner and I'm like...

Joe Rogan 6:20 Fuck, dude.

Ian Edwards 6:21 Like, I'm, I'm on, I'm stay paying attention, 100%.

Joe Rogan 6:25 We got a giant framed picture-

Ian Edwards 6:28 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 6:28 ... headed to the studio of this mountain lion that was photographed by a camera trap. You know what a camera trap is?

Ian Edwards 6:34 Nah.

Joe Rogan 6:35 Um, they set them up to, uh, monitor the numbers of wildlife and to just try to get an accurate assessment of what's in the area.

Ian Edwards 6:42 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 6:42 So what it is, it's like a camera, that's the photo.

Ian Edwards 6:45 Damn.

Joe Rogan 6:45 It's a camera that operates-

Ian Edwards 6:47 Oh.

Joe Rogan 6:47 ... on, um, motion detection. So as this cat, this probably 150-pound, super muscular, grown-ass mountain lion with a fucking collar on his neck, his name is P22. That's what it says. Does it say up there?

Narrator 7:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:02 Is it just P22?

Narrator 7:03 They just weighed it. It's about 119 pounds as of May.

Joe Rogan 7:06 Okay, so it's not quite that big.

Narrator 7:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:07 So, it's still big enough to kill everyone in this room.

Ian Edwards 7:10 Mm-hmm.

Narrator 7:10 Yeah, yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:10 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 7:10 Sure. (laughs)

Narrator 7:10 If it's in the room with us, we're fucked.

Ian Edwards 7:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:12 But look how muscular it is. I mean, that is a... Look at the size of its goddamn forearms. Those are Franco Columbo forearms.

Ian Edwards 7:19 (laughs)

Narrator 7:19 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 7:19 That is a-

Ian Edwards 7:20 It's got a chest.

Joe Rogan 7:20 ... terrifying animal. And that animal lives around where all these people are jogging. It's a really strange situation.

Ian Edwards 7:27 Yeah, I'm never going to Griffith Park again. Fuck that.

Joe Rogan 7:30 (laughs)

Narrator 7:30 (laughs) It's a great park.

Ian Edwards 7:31 Uh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:31 They don't fuck with people.

Ian Edwards 7:32 Until I saw P125. (laughs)

Narrator 7:34 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:35 (laughs)

Narrator 7:35 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 7:35 I'm out. (laughs) Stay in my house, bro. (laughs)

Narrator 7:39 Oh.

Joe Rogan 7:39 Look at the Hollywood sign behind it, though. It's so perfect.

Ian Edwards 7:42 That is s-

Joe Rogan 7:42 That's almost like a fake picture.

Ian Edwards 7:43 That is so close to me.

Joe Rogan 7:45 Yeah, so close to you.

Ian Edwards 7:45 Like, I went to the park yesterday. I'm, like, a block and a half away from that joint.

Joe Rogan 7:49 Dude, I run with a knife.

Ian Edwards 7:51 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:52 I do. I run with a, uh, this fucking Half Face Blades knife.

Ian Edwards 7:57 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 7:57 It's called a S-H-P-O-S, Sub Human Piece of Shit.

Ian Edwards 8:02 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 8:02 That's what the, the name of the knife is.

Ian Edwards 8:04 Goddamn.

Joe Rogan 8:04 (laughs)

Narrator 8:05 It's the same, same, he's eating here in this picture.

Joe Rogan 8:06 Oh, Jesus Christ.

Narrator 8:07 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 8:07 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 8:07 So they caught him here-

Narrator 8:09 Yeah. He-

Joe Rogan 8:09 ... with, look at that, and he's got blood and bones. He's eating something. That must be like a deer leg.

Ian Edwards 8:14 Yeah.

Narrator 8:14 True.

Joe Rogan 8:15 Fucking A, that is madness. And he's digging a hole in the ground to stuff it in there to save it. Fuck, man.

Ian Edwards 8:22 Because you know what? The deer around there are really comfortable.

Joe Rogan 8:26 Yeah, but that could be a kid, man.

Ian Edwards 8:28 Right.

Joe Rogan 8:28 100% could be a kid.

Ian Edwards 8:30 But I, I know why he's there, because the deer in that neighborhood, like, they walk around in the daytime like they're tourists too.

Joe Rogan 8:36 (laughs)

Narrator 8:37 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 8:37 'Cause there's no hunting around there, so they're like all comfortable and shit.

Joe Rogan 8:40 I think people probably feed 'em too.

Narrator 8:41 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 8:42 Yeah. So then now, the li-, that's like, "Oh, I, let me track these motherfuckers over to this area, and I'll just have a feast. It's a buffet night."

Joe Rogan 8:50 Look at this shit.

Narrator 8:51 It's on Mulholland Drive.

Joe Rogan 8:52 This is o- on Mulholland Drive.

Narrator 8:54 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 8:54 There's a grown-ass mountain lion with a collar on that's got a, a giant deer on the ground, a buck. Not giant, but it's probably 100-pound deer, on the ground, dead.

Narrator 9:05 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 9:05 On the, on the s-, on the side of the city street.

Ian Edwards 9:08 It's a civilization? (laughs)

Narrator 9:09 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 9:09 It's a regular city street. Yeah.

Narrator 9:10 Yeah, it's a suburb. On the side.

Joe Rogan 9:10 Civilization. And this is a cat that's killing deer with its face.

Ian Edwards 9:14 It's where we live.

Joe Rogan 9:15 And not only that, we know where it is. We have a collar on it. We're playing this game.

Ian Edwards 9:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 9:20 You don't fuck with us, we won't fuck with you.

Narrator 9:22 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 9:22 And they won't fuck with you for the most part.

Ian Edwards 9:24 Right.

Joe Rogan 9:24 The problem comes when they get old.

Ian Edwards 9:27 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 9:27 When they get old, they get real dangerous, 'cause they get desperate.

Ian Edwards 9:30 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 9:31 They can't catch a deer anymore.

Ian Edwards 9:32 So they go for the easy kill.

Joe Rogan 9:33 They go for people.

Ian Edwards 9:34 Right.

Joe Rogan 9:34 People are easy.

Ian Edwards 9:35 Right.

Joe Rogan 9:36 Yeah, man. Your kids are easy.

Ian Edwards 9:37 I'ma go hiking with somebody slow.

Joe Rogan 9:39 That's a move.

Ian Edwards 9:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:40 Go hiking with a small, slow person.

Ian Edwards 9:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 9:43 Someone who just doesn't look like a challenge at all.

Ian Edwards 9:45 Hey, man.

Joe Rogan 9:46 Mm-hmm.

Ian Edwards 9:46 Survival of the fittest.

Joe Rogan 9:47 Go smoking with someone who's smoking.

Ian Edwards 9:49 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 9:49 Just smoking the meat, makes it more attractive.

Ian Edwards 9:51 Hmm, it's hilarious.

Joe Rogan 9:52 So whatever-

Narrator 9:53 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 9:54 (laughs) Whatever-

Narrator 9:54 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 9:54 What we eat affects how we taste. It's gotta, right?

Ian Edwards 9:57 Uh- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 9:57 So maybe the, maybe like people who are in, really into junk food, they'd be more attractive.

Ian Edwards 10:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:02 They have a sweet taste to 'em.

Ian Edwards 10:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:05 I bet, right? If you just eat candy all day, I bet you taste delicious.

Ian Edwards 10:07 Yeah. The human Skittle.

Joe Rogan 10:09 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 10:09 Attack the human Skittle over here.

Narrator 10:11 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 10:11 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 10:11 Leave me alone. (laughs)

Narrator 10:13 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 10:13 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 10:13 That fucking cat is so big, man. Imagine just seeing a 115-pound cat in the room with you. You'd be like, "Oh, Jesus Christ."

Ian Edwards 10:22 Oh, that's just...

Joe Rogan 10:22 Like, my dog is probably, uh, maybe 75, 80 pounds, somewhere in that range.

Ian Edwards 10:28 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 10:28 He's not a, you know?

Ian Edwards 10:29 Marshall?

Joe Rogan 10:30 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 10:30 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 10:31 And if he wanted to kill me, he probably could.

Ian Edwards 10:34 Right.

Joe Rogan 10:35 I mean, he's a golden retriever. They don't kill anything other than squirrels.

Ian Edwards 10:39 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 10:39 But if he wanted to, I mean, I don't know.

Ian Edwards 10:42 If he had that mentality.

Joe Rogan 10:43 If he really was like crazed, like, like 28 days later, he got that rage virus in him-

Ian Edwards 10:48 Uh-huh. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 10:49 ... and he just went after me, I don't, he's got giant-ass fucking teeth.

Ian Edwards 10:53 (laughs) Right.

Joe Rogan 10:53 I mean, I assume that I would kick his ass because he listens to me.

Ian Edwards 10:58 Right.

Joe Rogan 10:58 Because I'm his daddy.

Ian Edwards 11:00 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 11:00 You know what I mean? Like, there's no, he's never... I've had pit bulls that growl at you a little bit, and you gotta-

Ian Edwards 11:05 Right.

Joe Rogan 11:05 ... kinda like, "Hey, motherfucker, I'm the one who gives you your food."

Ian Edwards 11:08 Right.

Joe Rogan 11:08 "Cut the shit." And then they'll give you their paw, and then they're sorry.

Ian Edwards 11:10 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 11:10 You play a little game with 'em, a little dominance game, especially when they're teenagers.

Ian Edwards 11:14 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 11:15 And they're like one and a half, two years old. They'll test you, just to ch- 'cause it's natural for them.

Ian Edwards 11:18 Right.

Joe Rogan 11:19 It's natural for dogs. Goldens don't ever do that. He don't growl at anybody.

Ian Edwards 11:22 They're just obedient. Psst, right through.

Joe Rogan 11:24 He's the worst guard dog of all time.

Ian Edwards 11:25 Damn.

Joe Rogan 11:25 You come over, everybody, he loves everybody.

Ian Edwards 11:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:28 He loves you, I love... He, he loves people like he's never, like, not, not like he's never met them, but like, he can't believe he hasn't seen them in so long. It's like a long lost friends.

Ian Edwards 11:38 He, he loves burglars.

Joe Rogan 11:38 They're long lost friends. Everyone's a long lost friend.

Ian Edwards 11:40 Hilarious. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:41 Everyone. Everyone.

Ian Edwards 11:42 Everyone is a long lost friend.

Joe Rogan 11:43 It is like, it's what it's like with him. He's such a love sponge. I mean-

Ian Edwards 11:46 I would, I would be jealous if I, if that's my dog.

Joe Rogan 11:49 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 11:49 I'm like, "So I'm not special?"

Joe Rogan 11:52 Yes.

Ian Edwards 11:52 Just that motherfucker?

Joe Rogan 11:53 That's how dogs are.

Ian Edwards 11:54 Yeah. Yeah.

Narrator 11:54 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:54 Like really friendly dogs, every new person is another opportunity for a new person to love them too.

Ian Edwards 12:00 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 12:00 And so they, they get so excited to meet people.

Ian Edwards 12:02 Smart.

Joe Rogan 12:03 Dude, when people come over the house, he, he is so hilarious. Everybody, he loves everybody. Like, "I can't believe it's you."

Ian Edwards 12:09 (laughs)

Narrator 12:09 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:09 And they're like, "I never even met your dog."

Ian Edwards 12:11 Yeah.

Narrator 12:11 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:11 It's like, "It's you."

Ian Edwards 12:12 It's you. Yes. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:13 "You're here. This is amazing." And he just starts whining and running around in circles.

Narrator 12:17 (laughs) It's hilarious.

Joe Rogan 12:19 But if you wanted to, you could probably kill me.I mean, if a rat was that big, I would f-fucking put my money on the rat.

Ian Edwards 12:25 (laughs) On the rat.

Joe Rogan 12:27 Right? Right? And dogs, dogs kill rats all the time, even those little dogs like Jack Russells. Those little tiny dogs, those are designed to kill rats.

Ian Edwards 12:34 Hilarious. My ex had a, a dog, right? And I was holding the dog. So, and she got into her car right across the street and moved it, and then got outta the car and wa- and the dog acted like he didn't just see her jump in the car. He acted like she went away for two days.

Joe Rogan 12:51 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 12:53 He was just... (panting)

Joe Rogan 12:54 I thought you were gonna leave me.

Ian Edwards 12:55 I was like, "She just went to, she just moved the car across. You, we, we watched her do it."

Joe Rogan 13:01 Do you remember when we had, uh, um, Mr. Foster, Aaron Foster on the podcast?

Narrator 13:06 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 13:06 And he was talking about being able to kill a wolf? We had to... (laughs)

Narrator 13:08 We wanted to fight one.

Joe Rogan 13:09 We had to correct him. We had to go press stop.

Ian Edwards 13:12 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:13 Just don't. I know you're a beast.

Ian Edwards 13:14 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:14 But come on, man. We're people. We're made out of, like, smush.

Ian Edwards 13:18 Yeah, smush.

Joe Rogan 13:18 Everything's smushy.

Ian Edwards 13:19 (laughs) Everything.

Joe Rogan 13:19 It's, uh, it's all so soft.

Ian Edwards 13:21 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:22 Something that wants to bite your tit, like if a wolf decided to bite your tit, the amount of pain that you'd be in would be u-unbearable.

Ian Edwards 13:28 I know. You'd feel like one of those buns that they give you at the steakhouse.

Joe Rogan 13:33 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 13:33 That's what your flesh feels like.

Joe Rogan 13:34 Exactly.

Ian Edwards 13:35 Like a st- a f- a steakhouse bun bread.

Joe Rogan 13:38 (laughs) Look at this fucking...

Narrator 13:39 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:39 Aaron Foster spent four hours on Twitter explaining why he'd beat a wolf one-on-one.

Narrator 13:44 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 13:44 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:44 He is hilarious.

Ian Edwards 13:45 Hilarious.

Joe Rogan 13:46 Isn't he doing a podcast now?

Narrator 13:47 Yeah, he's got his own podcast. He started doing music, which is really good. He just released some music under, I think, Bobby V knows his name.

Ian Edwards 13:52 He's a, he's a running back?

Narrator 13:54 Yeah, he was running back.

Joe Rogan 13:55 He retired.

Ian Edwards 13:55 Yeah, he's a vegan running back.

Joe Rogan 13:57 He retired young, and he's fucking super smart, man.

Ian Edwards 14:00 Right, except-

Joe Rogan 14:01 Just in control.

Ian Edwards 14:02 ... when it comes to-

Joe Rogan 14:03 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 14:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:04 Except when it comes to wolves. I think he's trolling a little bit.

Ian Edwards 14:06 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:06 He's having a little fun.

Ian Edwards 14:07 He's being smart.

Narrator 14:08 He said that there's like a wolf you could get, not any wolf, but like there's one out there you could take.

Joe Rogan 14:12 Oh, yeah, yeah, like an old one.

Narrator 14:13 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:13 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He could fuck up a old one.

Ian Edwards 14:14 A declawed one with no teeth.

Joe Rogan 14:16 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 14:16 A grandma wolf.

Joe Rogan 14:17 Some old one that doesn't have any endurance anymore.

Ian Edwards 14:19 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 14:19 He, it would be a battle, though, even then.

Narrator 14:21 Before we get too far off of this, I just, there's pictures on the, uh, Google Images sent me down this. This is just north of the, uh, Los Angeles Zoo. So there's a, I think this might even be that same chap we just saw. So this-

Ian Edwards 14:32 Chap.

Narrator 14:33 ... cougar has some food it's eating. And then next picture-

Ian Edwards 14:36 Wow.

Narrator 14:36 ... the bears show up to take it.

Joe Rogan 14:39 (sighs)

Narrator 14:39 And now-

Joe Rogan 14:39 Wait a minute.

Narrator 14:40 ... they're eating the fucking food instead of the cougar.

Joe Rogan 14:42 Oh my God.

Ian Edwards 14:43 So this is near us too? (laughs)

Narrator 14:44 This is 30 miles away, or probably even closer, who knows?

Joe Rogan 14:46 So bears steal deer from cougars. This is what happens when liberals run a state.

Ian Edwards 14:52 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 14:53 Listen, folks. I'm liberal. I'm with you. I know a lot of you think I'm not, but there's a lot of knuckleheads out there that think I'm a part of the alt-right or something.

Ian Edwards 15:00 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 15:00 I vote left on fucking everything. But you, you gotta stop f- anthropomorphizing animals. We gotta be careful. We, I'm on team people.

Ian Edwards 15:11 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 15:11 I don't want these animals to die, but I also don't wanna go out to my fucking swimming pool and see a bear in there. And they, they have that in Pasadena. Have you seen that shit in Pasadena? This family went outside and there was a fucking bear swimming around their pool.

Ian Edwards 15:23 They got bears in Pasadena?

Joe Rogan 15:24 Bro! Big ones.

Ian Edwards 15:26 Why does it feel like-

Joe Rogan 15:27 Like a 200-pound bear swimming in this motherfucker's pool.

Ian Edwards 15:30 Do I live here?

Joe Rogan 15:31 (laughs)

Narrator 15:32 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 15:32 How do- how don't I know this shit?

Joe Rogan 15:34 Not only that, you gotta take over, man. If they decide that this is their spot, look at this shit.

Ian Edwards 15:39 Hilarious.

Joe Rogan 15:39 Look, there's a c- a few of them.

Narrator 15:41 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 15:41 It's got the whole family in there.

Joe Rogan 15:42 Oh my God. How many bears are in there?

Narrator 15:44 Three, I think.

Joe Rogan 15:45 Oh my God. Dude, these are, these things are no joke. The problem with bears is too-

Ian Edwards 15:52 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 15:52 ... once they get a f- a spot where they know they can get food-

Ian Edwards 15:56 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 15:56 ... or they can get water or they can get something, they're gonna come back to that spot. They get habituated. That's why they have a real problem with them, with the people at Yellowstone used to feed them.

Ian Edwards 16:06 Right.

Joe Rogan 16:06 You know, people would pull in and then y- I actually did that.

Ian Edwards 16:09 All right.

Joe Rogan 16:09 Or was there when that happened. When I was a little kid, I went to Yellowstone. My parents took me when I was probably like seven or eight years old.

Ian Edwards 16:16 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 16:16 And I remember just thinking, "This is so crazy. You're in your car and the bears are outside."

Ian Edwards 16:21 Right.

Joe Rogan 16:21 They're right there. They don't do it the same way anymore, though. Now they discourage human-bear interaction. They just didn't understand it, I think, as well, which is kind of crazy.

Ian Edwards 16:29 Right.

Joe Rogan 16:29 'Cause that was not that long ago. That was like the 1970s.

Ian Edwards 16:33 I, I, I just don't understand people's like for ferocious animals. Like, I don't wanna kill them, but I never want to feed-

Narrator 16:42 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 16:42 ... something that could kill me.

Joe Rogan 16:44 Well, I think people have this really distorted idea of wildlife because of movies.

Ian Edwards 16:50 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 16:51 If you thought about like what the Lion King is, you would never want a lion to die. You know?

Ian Edwards 16:57 Right.

Joe Rogan 16:57 A lion is noble. I mean, sure there's a few bad ones, but overall, The Lion King is the, he's the sweetheart. He's amazing.

Ian Edwards 17:05 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 17:06 You think about Yogi Bear and you think about teddy bears. Kids have teddy bears. You th- I mean, we have this weird thing. We take polar bears, which is the most vicious of all bears-

Ian Edwards 17:17 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 17:17 ... and we have them be our friends selling us ice cream and Coca-Cola. They're selling Klondike Bars. (laughs)

Ian Edwards 17:22 Yeah, we, we cartoon them.

Joe Rogan 17:24 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 17:24 And then people grow up watching these cartoons and think, "Oh, let me go pet this friendly thing-"

Joe Rogan 17:29 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 17:29 ... that was drawn. But that's a-

Joe Rogan 17:32 I wish it-

Ian Edwards 17:32 ... ferocious beast.

Joe Rogan 17:33 Yeah, I wish it didn't have a history. If we just thought of it as a thing, like a wolverine, right? Wolverines don't have any... There's no one, no one feels about a wolverine the same way they think about a bear. 'Cause there's no, like, cute wolverines.

Ian Edwards 17:47 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 17:48 There's only the ones that you see in like, uh, you know, X-Men.

Ian Edwards 17:52 Right.

Joe Rogan 17:52 Like the Wolverine dude.

Ian Edwards 17:53 It's this one...

Joe Rogan 17:54 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 17:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:55 But he's like a person. His name's Wolverine. There's no, like, cute wolverines, 'cause they're so fucking ferocious.

Ian Edwards 18:00 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 18:00 Such a monster of a little animal. One wolverine will fuck up a big bear.

Ian Edwards 18:04 Oh, for real?

Joe Rogan 18:05 Dude, they're fucking ruthless. They chase wolves off food.

Ian Edwards 18:08 How big are wolverines?

Joe Rogan 18:09 Not big, man.

Ian Edwards 18:10 How-

Joe Rogan 18:10 40 pounds, 50 pounds?

Ian Edwards 18:12 Jeez.

Joe Rogan 18:12 They'll fuck up everything. They fuck up everything.

Ian Edwards 18:16 Man.

Joe Rogan 18:16 Everything runs away from them.

Ian Edwards 18:17 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 18:17 They're just ready to die.

Ian Edwards 18:19 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:19 All day.

Ian Edwards 18:20 All day. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:21 All day ready to die. And they're super strong and durable for a little tiny thing.

Ian Edwards 18:25 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 18:25 You ever see... You know what a wolverine looks like?

Ian Edwards 18:27 And now I think I don't-

Joe Rogan 18:28 Pull up a wolverine baring his fangs. It looks like a fake animal. This looked like a super jacked little giant rat bear thing-

Ian Edwards 18:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:36 ... with fangs.

Ian Edwards 18:37 (laughs) Rat bear.

Joe Rogan 18:37 It's like a super, it's like a super badger.

Ian Edwards 18:39 Right.

Joe Rogan 18:40 Badgers are, you know, real similar.

Ian Edwards 18:40 And badgers are vicious. I, I know they're vicious.

Joe Rogan 18:43 Fucking. Fucking vicious. That's a wolverine.

Ian Edwards 18:45 Jesus.

Joe Rogan 18:46 Bro. I mean, look at the teeth on that thing. Look at its face.

Ian Edwards 18:50 And that's... It's smiling.

Joe Rogan 18:51 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 18:51 That's a good day.

Joe Rogan 18:53 Those motherfuckers are ready to go to war, all day. (snorts) Make weird noises.

Ian Edwards 18:58 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:58 They're terrifying. Like, if that thing wanted to kill you, you would be fucked. Look at those-

Ian Edwards 19:03 Look at those claws.

Joe Rogan 19:03 ... the claws and the teeth. Now, imagine that that thing is hyperaggressive-

Ian Edwards 19:08 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 19:08 ... and it's a predator.

Ian Edwards 19:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:10 Fuck.

Ian Edwards 19:11 That shit is built to survive.

Joe Rogan 19:13 Fuck, man. That is a crazy little animal. They are ferocious and they, they are ready to go at all times.

Ian Edwards 19:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:21 I mean, they'll try to get the fuck away from you. The animal's scientific me- name means the glutton.

Ian Edwards 19:26 Damn.

Joe Rogan 19:27 That's a pretty apt description. Four feet tall, weighing 22 pounds for females and 40 pounds for males, these fierce creatures are the largest members of the weasel family. They're fucking weasels, bro.

Ian Edwards 19:38 (laughs) Damn. A vicious weasel.

Joe Rogan 19:40 Still, they're small compared to some of the animals that they compete with for food, but a wolverine has no problem standing up to wolves or a bear when a meal is on the line. Isn't that crazy?

Ian Edwards 19:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:49 40 pounds. The way bears are to us is the way-

Ian Edwards 19:52 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 19:52 ... or b- we are to dogs, you know, like, an 80-pound dog would probably fuck you up if you're a 150-pound person.

Ian Edwards 19:57 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 19:57 That's how wolverines are to bears.

Ian Edwards 19:59 Damn.

Joe Rogan 19:59 A 40-pound wolverine might fuck up a 200-pound bear.

Ian Edwards 20:02 Damn.

Joe Rogan 20:02 The bear's like, "Damn, this ain't worth it."

Ian Edwards 20:04 When I die, I wanna come back as a wolverine.

Joe Rogan 20:06 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 20:07 He's a vicious-ass animal.

Joe Rogan 20:09 (laughs) They eat caribou. They eat, uh, hares and rodents, as well as larger animals like caribou that are weak or ill, but will also scavenge from any carcass they can get their claws on. They also eat vegetables and berries. Frozen meat isn't a deterrent. Their upper molar that sits sideways at 90 degrees lets them rip into ice-covered carcasses. Their teeth are so sharp and strong that they can even eat bones. Whoa.

Ian Edwards 20:33 Damn.

Joe Rogan 20:34 Once they got food, they often bury it to save for later. Mere hours after a meal, they'll go on the hunt again. Ferocious. Ferocious little fucks.

Ian Edwards 20:42 Ugly as shit, too.

Joe Rogan 20:43 Yeah, so we don't have a cutie p- one of those.

Ian Edwards 20:45 Right. We don't have a cutie one of those (laughs)

Joe Rogan 20:47 (laughs) If we did, we'd be like, "The Wolverine. Hi, Mr. Wolverine."

Ian Edwards 20:51 (laughs) "Hi, kids. I'm here to help you and guard you through the forest."

Joe Rogan 20:54 No, they're here to eat your kids.

Ian Edwards 20:56 I'm waiting for some woman to bring on, on the plane as a support wolverine.

Joe Rogan 21:00 Oh, yeah. For sure.

Ian Edwards 21:00 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:00 Some crazy. It's, uh, it's always a woman.

Ian Edwards 21:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:03 And always one that's, like, over 50.

Ian Edwards 21:06 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 21:06 And on all kinds of medication.

Ian Edwards 21:07 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 21:07 If you're a dude and you bring a, a wolverine on a plane, they'll beat you to death.

Ian Edwards 21:10 We'll beat your ass.

Joe Rogan 21:11 Um, has a wolverine ever killed a person?

Narrator 21:15 Mm...

Joe Rogan 21:16 There's some women that'll get, uh, offended by that, "Why does it have to always be a woman?" Is it you? It's not you, right?

Ian Edwards 21:20 Right.

Joe Rogan 21:21 I'm not talking about you.

Ian Edwards 21:22 Right.

Joe Rogan 21:22 Why are you getting pers-... Why, why do we have be gender-specific? You know what I'm saying? Like, if, if I'm saying, "Oh, it's probably a woman," it doesn't mean I hate on all women.

Ian Edwards 21:29 Right.

Joe Rogan 21:30 What it means is, it's probably really a woman.

Ian Edwards 21:31 Right.

Joe Rogan 21:32 You gotta guess.

Ian Edwards 21:33 Because, because-

Joe Rogan 21:33 Just being honest.

Ian Edwards 21:33 ... because the peacock person-

Joe Rogan 21:35 That was a woman.

Ian Edwards 21:35 ... that was a woman. And then the, the-

Joe Rogan 21:38 But in the p- in the, uh, the defense of women-

Ian Edwards 21:41 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 21:41 ... a guy got an emotional support alligator recently.

Ian Edwards 21:44 What an idiot.

Joe Rogan 21:44 It was a guy.

Ian Edwards 21:45 And he's an idiot.

Joe Rogan 21:46 But I hear about that and wonder how many of those people, including the peacock lady, are doing it just for attention 'cause they know that people will talk about it.

Ian Edwards 21:54 I think people that have... Like, I saw this girl in S- in San Diego, La Jolla. She came to the restaurant with her micro pig.

Joe Rogan 22:04 (laughs) That's not real, you know?

Ian Edwards 22:05 That's not real? They made, they made those?

Joe Rogan 22:07 Yeah. Whitney Cummings explained it to me.

Ian Edwards 22:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:09 'Cause she adopted a pig.

Ian Edwards 22:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:11 And then kept it, and then fed it, and then drove some ungodly amount of time, like, two days to Texas-

Ian Edwards 22:17 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 22:17 ... to drop it off at a pig sanctuary. That's how crazy for animals Whitney Cummings is.

Ian Edwards 22:22 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 22:22 So, through Whitney, I learned-

Ian Edwards 22:24 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 22:24 ... that pigs are just pigs.

Ian Edwards 22:26 Right.

Joe Rogan 22:26 There's no micro pig.

Ian Edwards 22:28 Mm-mm.

Joe Rogan 22:28 It's just a pig that they don't feed.

Ian Edwards 22:30 Oh, for real?

Joe Rogan 22:31 For real.

Ian Edwards 22:32 So, they just starved it and it just stayed small?

Joe Rogan 22:33 It just keeps it from getting big by not giving it a lot of food.

Ian Edwards 22:36 That's not cool.

Joe Rogan 22:37 And then they pawn it off on a sucker.

Ian Edwards 22:38 It's a pig.

Joe Rogan 22:39 Exactly.

Ian Edwards 22:39 It's gotta eat.

Joe Rogan 22:40 Exactly. It's-

Ian Edwards 22:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:41 ... a greedy little pig.

Ian Edwards 22:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:42 They p- I mean, they're famous for getting fat. That's what they-

Ian Edwards 22:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:45 ... love to do. So, they'll pawn it off on some person.

Ian Edwards 22:48 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 22:49 And then-

Ian Edwards 22:49 What, 'cause they can't afford not to feed it?

Joe Rogan 22:51 No, the person doesn't know any better.

Ian Edwards 22:53 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 22:53 They think they're getting a micro pig. "Oh, it's gonna be small and cute forever." No, you're gonna have 1,000-pound pig. If you-

Ian Edwards 22:58 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 22:58 If you feed it everything it wants to eat, it's gonna keep growing.

Ian Edwards 23:03 It's like, "Damn, how did my pig grow?"

Joe Rogan 23:05 (laughs) It's supposed to grow.

Ian Edwards 23:07 'Cause it's a pig.

Joe Rogan 23:08 There's no micro. It's like micro people. Like, if you look at people from, like, the Civil War day, they were all-

Ian Edwards 23:13 Right.

Joe Rogan 23:13 ... just 125 pounds. Well, why was that? 'Cause they didn't have any fucking food, man.

Ian Edwards 23:16 Right.

Joe Rogan 23:17 The same guy today would probably be 200 pounds.

Ian Edwards 23:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:19 They, they, they're actually grown.

Ian Edwards 23:20 Especially with McDonald's and all that stuff, and everything in it.

Joe Rogan 23:22 Oh. Oh, yeah.

Ian Edwards 23:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:23 Or even just eating regular food.

Ian Edwards 23:25 Right.

Joe Rogan 23:25 Just, like, real m- you know, like, meat, and potatoes, and vegetables, and shit. You're not gonna be 125 pounds. That guy was probably starving.

Ian Edwards 23:30 Yeah, they probably didn't have three meals a day back in the Civil War-

Joe Rogan 23:34 No.

Ian Edwards 23:34 ... era, and snacks.

Joe Rogan 23:36 I read this book by this, uh, pool hustler. It was, uh, uh, uh, McGurdy: Life of a Billiard Hustler, I think it was. It's a really interesting book 'cause it was about a guy who survived by traveling around on trains like a hobo, gambling, playing pool and billiards-

Ian Edwards 23:53 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 23:54 ... um, in the Depression. But during the Depression, he was talking about almost starving to death, like how peop- they would knock on people's door and beg for food.

Ian Edwards 24:01 Right.

Joe Rogan 24:02 And, you know, people would just come out with a plate of food and give it to them. Like, everybody was, like, on the edge. People had to really rely on people. They had to, like, rely on people for food. There was no fucking jobs.

Ian Edwards 24:12 Right.

Joe Rogan 24:13 There was a lot of people back then. You know, with, with looking at these homeless folks, and, like, for the most part, my opinion is you're looking at people who probably have an undiagnosed or untreated mental illness.

Ian Edwards 24:22 Yeah, there's a lot of that.

Joe Rogan 24:23 It's... I think it's a lot. I don't know what the number is, but I would think it's a lot. And then, there's also people that make mistakes, down on their luck.

Ian Edwards 24:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:30 And then people that, you know, had terrible childhoods, horrible abuse, sexual abuse, violence, p- the evil parents, you know?

Ian Edwards 24:39 Right.

Joe Rogan 24:39 Parents die, leave them alone, foster care, all that kind of shit. Like-

Ian Edwards 24:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:44 ... it's not their fault a lot of times and there- as, as humans, we should do something to take care of it, but (clicks tongue) on the other hand.

Ian Edwards 24:51 Yeah. And, and we just don't know who's who out there.

Joe Rogan 24:53 Yeah. Exactly.

Ian Edwards 24:54 It's-

Joe Rogan 24:54 Who's mentally ill, who just needs help. And the mentally ill people-

Ian Edwards 24:58 And who just fucked up.

Joe Rogan 24:58 ... man, they need help too, but, like, how do you force them to... (sighs) You know, how do you force them into treatment?

Ian Edwards 25:04 Or how do you just get them real help so that... Because-

Joe Rogan 25:07 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 25:07 ... the way they do help people with pills and all that stuff, some, some of it works and some of it doesn't work.

Joe Rogan 25:13 Mm-hmm.

Ian Edwards 25:14 You know what I mean? And some of it's just, like, creates a dependency on something.

Joe Rogan 25:18 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 25:18 So it's just, like, the, the system just from the beginning needs to be fixed.

Joe Rogan 25:23 Right.

Ian Edwards 25:23 And not just, like, pills and, like...

Joe Rogan 25:28 Have you ever been on any kind of psych medication?

Ian Edwards 25:30 No.

Joe Rogan 25:30 Have you ever taken Adderall?

Ian Edwards 25:32 No.

Joe Rogan 25:33 Me neither. I want to, though.

Ian Edwards 25:34 You do?

Joe Rogan 25:35 Jamie gave me a little bit of Adderall once, allegedly.

Narrator 25:38 I did.

Ian Edwards 25:38 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:38 And, uh, I didn't take it. I looked at it and was like, "I don't want to fuck with this."

Ian Edwards 25:41 Yeah, I don't do it, man.

Joe Rogan 25:42 I'm scared of the speed.

Ian Edwards 25:43 Yeah.

Narrator 25:44 No, I- I think I only gave it to you 'cause I haven't taken it either. I had it for a long time, was like-

Joe Rogan 25:46 (gasps)

Narrator 25:46 ... "I don't think I'm gonna take it." (laughs)

Ian Edwards 25:48 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:48 Do you want it? I just- I've, I've known so many people that do it and they get real weird. They get weird. And it is a l- it's, it's an amphetamine, and when you take amphetamines-

Ian Edwards 25:59 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 25:59 ... especially if you don't take amphetamines responsibly, really strange things happen. And one of the things happened is people get really paranoid, they get really weird.

Narrator 26:09 Bigger.

Joe Rogan 26:09 They get... They start, uh, having delusions of grandeur. They start thinking that what they're doing is very important, that a lot of people are out to take them down.

Ian Edwards 26:20 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 26:20 And, uh, you see that with people that, that do too much Adderall. They don't follow the prescription, they just start chewing them all day. Woo. Things can get real slippery. Like meth-

Ian Edwards 26:29 Yeah, because-

Joe Rogan 26:29 ... slippery. It's like meth.

Ian Edwards 26:30 Ye- meth slippery. (laughs) That's what hurts.

Joe Rogan 26:32 This is what it's like.

Ian Edwards 26:33 Because they, they, I guess, they get immune to it, so they gotta take extra.

Joe Rogan 26:38 Oh, yeah, you, you definitely-

Ian Edwards 26:38 And then, then the more you take-

Joe Rogan 26:40 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 26:41 ... the worse it gets.

Joe Rogan 26:43 Yeah, tolerances are real for everything.

Ian Edwards 26:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:46 I assume. I mean, they even have tolerances for snake venom, you know? The- one of the things that snake handlers do, they'll give themselves a little bit of venom every day.

Ian Edwards 26:54 Oh.

Joe Rogan 26:54 To make themselves immune to snake venom.

Ian Edwards 26:56 Right.

Joe Rogan 26:56 And your body's an amazing, adaptable thing, which is why vaccines work.

Ian Edwards 27:00 Right.

Joe Rogan 27:01 So why these crazy fucks who don't want us to have vaccines, like, listen, (clicks tongue) you know, we gotta be real careful with claiming expertise on this shit. We gotta be real careful with getting fucked over by pharmaceutical companies-

Ian Edwards 27:13 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:13 ... and big bus- We gotta be real careful of that, too, but we also gotta be real careful of not listening to these doctors and researchers that are struggling to find the, the ways to cure these horrible infectious diseases 'cause they've got a lot of them nailed through vaccines.

Ian Edwards 27:28 It's so confusing out there. You can make an argument f- on- for any team-

Joe Rogan 27:32 Sure.

Ian Edwards 27:32 ... for anything.

Joe Rogan 27:33 You can.

Ian Edwards 27:34 So it's, it's tough to figure out.

Joe Rogan 27:35 I know, lo- logical, intelligent people that, that think that vaccines cause autism, and I'm not a doctor, so I-

Ian Edwards 27:42 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 27:43 ... I don't r- know if you know that?

Ian Edwards 27:44 Hm, yeah, I think, I think.

Joe Rogan 27:47 Not a doctor.

Ian Edwards 27:47 No.

Joe Rogan 27:48 (clicks tongue) Um, but, uh, I've heard logical, intelligent people argue that, that vaccines can cause autism. I'm like, "Man, you're not a scientist. Like, how could you say that? 'Cause you saw it in a documentary?" I know it's interesting when you see something in a documentary that sounds good, you want to relate it as fact. I'm as guilty of that as anyone. Probably-

Ian Edwards 28:09 Right.

Joe Rogan 28:09 ... more guilty than most. I'm guilty of doing that a lot. But just recognizing that over time, I've gotten to this point where I'm like, "Maybe I should just shut the fuck up about something that I don't actually know about-"

Ian Edwards 28:20 Right.

Joe Rogan 28:20 "... and try to figure out what it is-"

Ian Edwards 28:22 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 28:22 "... instead of saying what it is." What they, what they do know is that vaccines have stopped the spread of a fucking bunch of awful diseases.

Ian Edwards 28:31 Yeah, saved a bunch of plagues and-

Joe Rogan 28:33 Smallpox.

Ian Edwards 28:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:35 That Lindsay Fitts-Harris woman who's been on the podcast, Jamie, she sent me some image of, uh, some people with smallpox, bunch of stuff about sm- smallpox is horrific, man.

Ian Edwards 28:46 Right.

Joe Rogan 28:47 Just horrific wh- how it kills you. Horrific. They nipped that shit in the bud with vaccines.

Ian Edwards 28:55 Maybe, maybe they've ch- changed... Maybe, maybe some vaccines do give people autism, right?

Joe Rogan 29:03 Look at that. That's what that guy's back looks like.

Ian Edwards 29:04 Damn. Maybe some vaccines, vaccines do give some people autism, but overall, most of the time, it helps everybody. Like, there's gonna be some things that affect people differently.

Joe Rogan 29:17 Mm.

Ian Edwards 29:18 But then that- but that means you can't stop taking it or giving it to everybody-

Joe Rogan 29:23 That's no consolation.

Ian Edwards 29:24 ... to stop them from having...

Joe Rogan 29:25 Right, it's no consolation if you get autism from it or if your child-

Ian Edwards 29:28 Right.

Joe Rogan 29:28 ... gets autism from it. Yeah. But it's one of those things that's messy.

Ian Edwards 29:31 But everybody else that-

Joe Rogan 29:32 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 29:32 ... that grows up without it-

Joe Rogan 29:34 Right.

Ian Edwards 29:34 ... you know?

Joe Rogan 29:35 It's a messy thing about being a person, right?

Ian Edwards 29:37 Right.

Joe Rogan 29:38 Like, there's not, there's not, like, clean, pro- like, "Are you pro-abortion?" Well, I'm pro-abortion up to a point.

Ian Edwards 29:43 Right.

Joe Rogan 29:43 Right? When it gets to be, like, seven months, uh, it's- that seems to, you know, it gets longer in the pregnancy.

Ian Edwards 29:49 Right.

Joe Rogan 29:49 And that seems like... We're ta- if you're talking about, like, the first few days?

Ian Edwards 29:52 Right.

Joe Rogan 29:52 Yeah. What, what is that, like, three cells?

Ian Edwards 29:54 I'm, I'm pro-abortion if I get the girl pregnant.

Joe Rogan 29:56 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 29:56 (laughs) You know what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 29:58 As far as it takes.

Ian Edwards 29:59 As far as it takes.

Joe Rogan 30:00 As far as it takes.

Ian Edwards 30:01 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 30:02 (clicks tongue) Yeah, it's, um, it's a weird, you know, with many, many, many subjects.

Ian Edwards 30:07 Right.

Joe Rogan 30:07 There's, like, a weird, "Well, it's not exactly. Well, it's this."

Ian Edwards 30:12 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 30:12 You know, if... There's a vaccine court for a reason. Vaccines have done damage to people.

Ian Edwards 30:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:17 People have gotten injured from vaccines where a- during the injection site, something happened. Peter Hotez was talking about that. He's a doctor that's a specialist in infectious diseases and vaccines, and he was explaining that there's five environmental factors that they think, or five factors they think contribute to, uh, a child possibly getting autism. They've narrowed it down to these things with the m- the most current research. But they're all during the womb. It's, it's contact with things during the womb or-

Ian Edwards 30:44 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:44 ... in the genetics of the mother. They think that s- it has something to do with the developmental process while the child is in vitro (clears throat) in the woman's body.... not after birth.

Ian Edwards 30:54 Right.

Joe Rogan 30:55 They don't think it occurs after birth. But I don't know that. I mean, they could be wrong. They could be, could be current, and then they could change that opinion a year from now. They could-

Ian Edwards 31:02 Right.

Joe Rogan 31:02 ... find new evidence. That shit happens all the time.

Ian Edwards 31:04 Yeah, exactly.

Joe Rogan 31:05 It really does. It happens all the time. But what we have to do is make sure we have fucking people that are working on this shit, trying to figure out s- the way to stop diseases. Because otherwise, some Spanish flu-type shit comes rolling around, and all these-

Ian Edwards 31:19 Some simple shit and kill everybody.

Joe Rogan 31:20 That Spanish flu killed millions and millions of people in the 1920s.

Ian Edwards 31:24 Yeah, and it doesn't-

Joe Rogan 31:25 Millions.

Ian Edwards 31:25 ... sound lethal at all. It's just Spanish flu.

Joe Rogan 31:27 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 31:27 It's just like, how did that kill people?

Joe Rogan 31:29 (sighs) Sounds like a drink.

Ian Edwards 31:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:31 Yeah.

Narrator 31:32 To bring that full circle back to downtown LA, that, where typhus outbreaks have happened-

Joe Rogan 31:36 Oh, great. (laughs)

Narrator 31:36 ... the last couple of times.

Ian Edwards 31:37 Oh, dude.

Joe Rogan 31:37 Of course.

Narrator 31:37 It's not the exact same thing as typhoid fever, I think, but it's very close.

Joe Rogan 31:41 Not typhoid. It's a new one.

Ian Edwards 31:43 (laughs)

Narrator 31:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 31:43 It's a new one. It's a new typhoid that they don't have a fucking vaccine for. I was down there the other day just trying to buy donuts.

Ian Edwards 31:49 Downtown?

Joe Rogan 31:49 Yeah, it's... The, the allure of downtown has escaped me. Everybody-

Ian Edwards 31:54 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 31:55 Everybody thinks it's amazing, but Jamie and I talked, and we've been talking about this forever. We wanted to get a loft in downtown, like up-

Ian Edwards 32:01 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 32:01 ... high and start filming podcasts up there.

Ian Edwards 32:04 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 32:04 Because I think that would be the coolest backdrop.

Ian Edwards 32:06 Right.

Joe Rogan 32:07 Like, it, for, for YouTube, like you and me sitting here and behind us, you just all s- building, like-

Ian Edwards 32:12 Like some Times Square-

Joe Rogan 32:13 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 32:13 ... MTV shit, yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:14 Lights and shit.

Ian Edwards 32:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:15 Like, that would be an amazing backdrop for a podcast.

Narrator 32:18 Just green screen that now and be safe. (laughs)

Ian Edwards 32:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:20 Yeah. I can't do that. If I was gonna green screen something, it would be, like, current events shit. It would be like Melania Trump slapping Donald's hand away. I'd be like, "Did you see that shit?" Like, that would, would be what I would-

Ian Edwards 32:31 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:31 I wouldn't pretend I'm in the savannas.

Ian Edwards 32:33 (laughs)

Narrator 32:34 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:34 You know what I mean? Like, behind me is a cheetah creeping up on me, and everybody sees it. Like, "Does he know?"

Ian Edwards 32:38 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:38 "Does he know?" I'll be sitting in Griffith Park.

Ian Edwards 32:41 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:41 Behind me is a mountain lion munching on a leg. (laughs)

Ian Edwards 32:44 I was meditating in Griffith Park.

Joe Rogan 32:46 Oh, dude.

Ian Edwards 32:47 Like, one morning, and I hear rustling in the bushes.

Joe Rogan 32:50 Mm.

Ian Edwards 32:50 And it was a coyote, like, just waking up.

Joe Rogan 32:53 They bite you.

Ian Edwards 32:53 Yeah, and I was like, "I can't-

Joe Rogan 32:55 They'll bite you.

Ian Edwards 32:55 ... like, do that anymore." Close my eyes in Griffith Park.

Joe Rogan 32:57 Yeah, you go camping out there, they'll bite you.

Ian Edwards 32:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:59 They'll check that you might be dead. They'll take a bite.

Ian Edwards 33:01 They'll check. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:02 If you're just lying there, like, "Damn, maybe he just recently died."

Ian Edwards 33:05 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:05 They'll just bite you.

Ian Edwards 33:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:06 They really will. They really will. They're predators. That whole thing is so strange. Pe- people are so strange, how we just, uh, we think it's cool, think it's cool to be around these bears and mountain lions and shit.

Ian Edwards 33:17 And we have urban coyotes, ones that, like, you'll see walking down the street at night.

Joe Rogan 33:22 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 33:22 Like, my neighbor had two little dogs, and one of them was really old. So then-

Joe Rogan 33:26 Ooh.

Ian Edwards 33:26 ... she had to walk them one at a time.

Joe Rogan 33:29 Mm.

Ian Edwards 33:29 Because she saw a coyote one time coming up on him, and she couldn't handle both of them, so she takes, or she used to take each dog out-

Joe Rogan 33:39 Woof.

Ian Edwards 33:39 ... to walk at night one at a time.

Joe Rogan 33:41 Take a gun.

Ian Edwards 33:42 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:42 Shoot that fucking rotten dog-

Ian Edwards 33:44 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:44 ... right in the face. Har- that's not a coyote, it's a dog. Not her dog. I was talking about the coyote. Well, actually, it's a wolf. It's a small wolf.

Ian Edwards 33:51 It's a small wolf.

Joe Rogan 33:52 Yeah. A coyote's like a d- it's particularly a durable and resilient form of wolf.

Ian Edwards 33:57 It's a shitty wolf.

Joe Rogan 33:59 It's a really interesting wolf.

Ian Edwards 34:00 Mm.

Joe Rogan 34:00 There's a great book called Coyote America by D- uh, Dan Flores. Um, he, I learned about him through my friend, Steve Rinella. I think he was his, his professor in one of his, um, one of his courses. Um, but he is a, a guy who spent an extreme amount of time studying the history and the science behind coyotes.

Ian Edwards 34:20 Oh, for real?

Joe Rogan 34:21 Really, really interesting book. But one of the things they found out is that when you kill a coyote, they just make more coyotes. That's why there's so many of them-

Ian Edwards 34:28 That's why coyotes do?

Joe Rogan 34:29 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 34:29 Like, they know?

Joe Rogan 34:30 They spread out. Yeah, they, when they yell out-

Ian Edwards 34:33 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 34:34 They yell out, they communicate in a lot of different ways. They yell out when they kill something sometimes.

Ian Edwards 34:38 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 34:38 They yell out when they're trying to figure out where each others are. They also yell out, like, a roll call. Like, 'cause you know-

Ian Edwards 34:43 Oh, get the fuck outta here.

Joe Rogan 34:44 ... it's hard out there, so they're like, "Yay, what's up, Ian?"

Ian Edwards 34:47 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:47 "Hey, Jamie. Where are you, Jamie?" They do that. That's part of-

Ian Edwards 34:50 Oh, shit.

Joe Rogan 34:50 ... what they're doing. And, uh, when one is missing, they, the female, there's some sort of a chemical or biological reaction, and her body makes more puppies.

Ian Edwards 35:00 Oh, she's like, "We're fucking tonight."

Joe Rogan 35:02 Yeah. They ma-

Ian Edwards 35:02 "I, I didn't hear Jamie. We're fucking tonight."

Joe Rogan 35:04 They make larger litters.

Ian Edwards 35:06 Damn.

Joe Rogan 35:06 So if like, a normal litter would be like four pups-

Ian Edwards 35:09 Mm.

Joe Rogan 35:09 ... if someone's missing, they'll make six or eight.

Ian Edwards 35:12 So it's just-

Joe Rogan 35:12 Something along those lines.

Ian Edwards 35:13 So now we can't kill them.

Joe Rogan 35:14 Well, they spread out, too. In the 1700s and the 1800s, you know, when peoples first started going through the West-

Ian Edwards 35:21 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 35:21 ... they're, you know, they were around.

Ian Edwards 35:23 Right.

Joe Rogan 35:23 But then when we started killing them, they spread to the entire country. They're in-

Ian Edwards 35:27 Oh, so they weren't-

Joe Rogan 35:28 ... every single state.

Ian Edwards 35:29 So they weren't, like-

Joe Rogan 35:31 No.

Ian Edwards 35:31 ... this way.

Joe Rogan 35:31 No, no, no, they weren't everywhere.

Ian Edwards 35:32 Okay.

Joe Rogan 35:33 They're a west animal.

Ian Edwards 35:34 Oh.

Joe Rogan 35:34 They're a western animal.

Ian Edwards 35:35 And then they went east?

Joe Rogan 35:36 Bro, they're in New York City.

Ian Edwards 35:38 Oh, shit. For real?

Joe Rogan 35:39 Yeah, yes, for real. There's coyotes in New York City. They have-

Ian Edwards 35:44 All right.

Joe Rogan 35:44 ... little packs of them running around Times Square.

Ian Edwards 35:47 Get out of here, bro.

Joe Rogan 35:49 Dude.

Ian Edwards 35:49 For real?

Joe Rogan 35:50 Dude. There's little coyotes that are wandering through Central Park.

Ian Edwards 35:55 Listen, I get that there's mountain lions in Griffith Park. I get that there's k- urban coy- but New York City?

Joe Rogan 36:02 I might've made up the Times Square part.

Narrator 36:04 I'm like, oh, they're definitely in New York.

Ian Edwards 36:04 But that's bananas.

Narrator 36:05 Definitely New York. I'll check Times Square.

Joe Rogan 36:06 I, I know they're in New York 'cause there was, uh-

Ian Edwards 36:08 They probably came from Upstate.

Joe Rogan 36:09 They've seen them in buildings. People see-

Ian Edwards 36:11 In buildings?

Joe Rogan 36:12 ... coyotes in abandoned buildings, where they've decided to make like a nest in an abandoned building. They're all o- over downtown LA.

Ian Edwards 36:17 Damn.

Narrator 36:18 There's Central Park.

Joe Rogan 36:19 Central Park, bam, coyote motherfucker.

Ian Edwards 36:21 Damn, bro.

Narrator 36:22 On the streets.

Joe Rogan 36:23 Coyote, okay, on the street. So it's telling the truth.

Narrator 36:25 Yeah, they could go to Times Square easily.

Ian Edwards 36:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:27 Yeah, they're everywhere.

Narrator 36:27 Gotta look.

Ian Edwards 36:28 Looks like a tourist-

Joe Rogan 36:28 I'm almost, like, exaggerating.

Ian Edwards 36:30 ... c- coyote.

Joe Rogan 36:31 That is a small wolf. That's what that is. And there, we've, we're infected with them. And here's the thing. This is what you have to be aware of.

Narrator 36:39 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 36:39 That's the gentleman that, uh, go back.

Narrator 36:40 Justin.

Joe Rogan 36:40 What was his name?

Narrator 36:41 Justin Brown.

Joe Rogan 36:41 Yeah, Justin Brown was on the podcast. He tracks coyotes all throughout downtown LA.

Ian Edwards 36:46 Mm.

Joe Rogan 36:47 He's a biolo- a wildlife biologist that works for the state. Really interesting, in downtown LA. So instead of, like, being in a ranch outside of Bakersfield in Tehachapi Mountains-

Ian Edwards 36:56 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 36:56 ... this guy is, uh, "Look, it's a coyote."

Narrator 36:58 Same trap.

Joe Rogan 36:59 ... same camera trap got that?

Narrator 37:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:01 Get a picture of that too, Young Jamie.

Narrator 37:02 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 37:03 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:03 Order that bitch up. Make a note.

Narrator 37:06 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:06 Yeah. Look, why not, right? We should have coyote picture too. We can't just have a mountain lion.

Narrator 37:10 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:10 That's rude. Let's show all the crazy shit that's wandering. See if they got a bear in the, in that camera trap.

Narrator 37:15 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 37:15 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:16 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 37:16 Yeah. Hopefully they got a bear in there.

Joe Rogan 37:18 Ah.

Narrator 37:18 Ah.

Ian Edwards 37:18 I like how the coyotes are so used to being around. Like, the way they walk down the street is just, like, regular.

Joe Rogan 37:24 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 37:25 Like, no trepidation whatsoever.

Joe Rogan 37:28 Look at that. Look at that, just wandering.

Ian Edwards 37:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:30 (whistles)

Ian Edwards 37:31 Yeah, whistling walk.

Joe Rogan 37:32 I remember in 1994, the first... It might have been '93.

Ian Edwards 37:36 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 37:36 First time I ever came to LA and I was staying at the, uh, Oakwood Gardens, or-

Ian Edwards 37:41 Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:41 ... you know those?

Ian Edwards 37:42 Oak-

Joe Rogan 37:43 Oakwood Apartments.

Ian Edwards 37:44 Barham's.

Joe Rogan 37:44 Yeah, on Barham. They're in, in Burbank. They're furnished apartments where, it's where you stay when you first come to LA. You don't have a-

Ian Edwards 37:50 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 37:50 ... spot, you don't have enough money to get it up, and you don't know if the show you're on is ever gonna last.

Ian Edwards 37:54 It's gonna last, yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:55 So I stayed at these Oakwoods Apartments and I was driving up the street to the apartment, and I saw coyotes. I was like, "What is this dog doing just wandering around?"

Ian Edwards 38:02 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 38:02 And then I was like, "Oh, shit. Those are coyotes?" I couldn't believe it.

Ian Edwards 38:06 It's funny.

Joe Rogan 38:06 I got, I pulled over and I'm looking out the window, there's three little wolves.

Ian Edwards 38:10 Isn't it funny how that moment when something you never seen before, you see it and it takes you a second-

Joe Rogan 38:18 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 38:18 ... to realize it, what it is? And then you, the word for what it is comes to your head right away.

Joe Rogan 38:24 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 38:24 Like, you knew it was a coyote even though you never really seen a coyote before.

Joe Rogan 38:28 I was in denial.

Ian Edwards 38:29 You was in denial?

Joe Rogan 38:30 Yeah, I was thinking it was a dog. Like, it was three dogs. And then I, I had to pull over and I'm like, I remember people telling me they'd seen coyotes.

Ian Edwards 38:38 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 38:38 But I thought it was, like, I saw a mountain lion. Like, if someone says-

Ian Edwards 38:41 Right.

Joe Rogan 38:41 ... I saw a mountain lion, you're like, "Holy shit. You did?" That's pretty rare.

Ian Edwards 38:44 Right.

Joe Rogan 38:45 Right? Have you ever seen one?

Ian Edwards 38:47 No.

Joe Rogan 38:47 I've seen two.

Ian Edwards 38:48 A- live?

Joe Rogan 38:49 Yeah, I've seen two live ones.

Ian Edwards 38:50 While you, like, out there?

Joe Rogan 38:52 Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Ian Edwards 38:52 And what happened?

Joe Rogan 38:53 One of them ate my dog.

Ian Edwards 38:55 Get the f-

Joe Rogan 38:55 That was when I lived in Colorado. Yeah.

Ian Edwards 38:57 And you was right there?

Joe Rogan 38:58 No, no, no. I was at, this mountain lion was casing the house, I think.

Ian Edwards 39:01 Right.

Joe Rogan 39:02 And we saw it in the woods at one point in time.

Ian Edwards 39:05 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 39:05 And then another one I saw in Santa Barbara, in Montecito.

Ian Edwards 39:09 Right.

Joe Rogan 39:09 Driving through a neighborhood, I saw this animal run across the car in, in the front of the lights-

Ian Edwards 39:13 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 39:13 ... and I saw its tail, and I was like, "Holy shit. That's a cat."

Ian Edwards 39:16 I take it back. I have seen some mountain lions.

Joe Rogan 39:19 Really?

Ian Edwards 39:19 You know Faizon Love?

Joe Rogan 39:20 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 39:21 He moves all over the place, but one time he lived in San Diego. Me and Hugh Moore went to visit him, and we was at his house hanging out, and that night he was like, "Look out the window in his backyard." And there was, like, mountain lions in his fucking backyard.

Joe Rogan 39:37 More than one?

Ian Edwards 39:37 Yeah. There was, like, two or three of them.

Narrator 39:40 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 39:40 What?

Ian Edwards 39:40 And then, and all I'm thinking is, like, "How the fuck are we gonna get to the car?"

Joe Rogan 39:43 Oh.

Ian Edwards 39:44 Like...

Joe Rogan 39:44 Oh my God.

Ian Edwards 39:45 And he was so casual about it, and I was like...

Joe Rogan 39:48 Wow.

Ian Edwards 39:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:50 Yeah, that's time to move, son.

Ian Edwards 39:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:52 Um, Jamie, do you ever see that video from Colorado where, uh, a guy looked out his window, there was three mountain lions on his driveway. It was, like, super clear iPhone footage.

Ian Edwards 40:01 Ah.

Joe Rogan 40:01 This guy, uh... Or Android phone. I don't know.

Ian Edwards 40:03 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:03 I don't know what he uses.

Ian Edwards 40:04 Not yet. Yet. Don't-

Joe Rogan 40:04 Could be. Could be.

Ian Edwards 40:05 Could be an Android, bro.

Joe Rogan 40:06 (laughs) He was saying this weekend he takes more shit for using an Android phone than for being a vegan.

Ian Edwards 40:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:12 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 40:12 For being a Black, vegan...

Joe Rogan 40:16 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 40:16 (laughs) And what, what else is it?

Joe Rogan 40:17 Comedian.

Ian Edwards 40:18 Co- could be... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:19 Yeah, you get more grief-

Ian Edwards 40:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:21 ... for having an Android phone.

Ian Edwards 40:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:22 It's a weird little battle, right?

Ian Edwards 40:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:24 It's like Republican, Democrat type shit.

Ian Edwards 40:26 Yeah, it is.

Joe Rogan 40:27 It is.

Ian Edwards 40:27 Like, people with iPhones really ain't trying to have it.

Joe Rogan 40:30 Well, it's not just that. It's, like, there's teams. It's like the fucking Orioles are playing the Yankees.

Ian Edwards 40:35 (laughs) Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:35 You know? Like, people get on a goddamn team.

Ian Edwards 40:38 And the iPhones are the Yankees right now.

Joe Rogan 40:41 It's weird, man.

Ian Edwards 40:42 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 40:42 Phone, the phone thing is a weird thing. It's weird that people are so... They're, they're really, like, so tribal-

Ian Edwards 40:49 Right.

Joe Rogan 40:49 ... that they're tribal with their phones.

Ian Edwards 40:51 Yeah, they made a tribe out of phones. People can make a tribe out of anything.

Joe Rogan 40:55 Hmm. And what's really crazy is the biggest company, the ones that's the most desirable-

Ian Edwards 41:01 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 41:02 ... is a, a company that also makes computers and they, they make their own shit. They make their own hardware.

Ian Edwards 41:08 Right.

Joe Rogan 41:08 Like, that's what's really strange about Apple. Like, they make everything. They make the software, they make the hardware. They, they only, there's only one. You have different models, but there's only an iPhone. You get an iPhone R, XR, whatever the fuck it is, um, X, XS, Max, but it's only an iPhone. That's all you get. You don't get... You don't get anything else. Whereas Android, you got hundreds of brands.

Ian Edwards 41:34 Yeah. See, there's so much variety everybody.

Joe Rogan 41:37 Yeah. But-

Ian Edwards 41:38 You can choose from... Jamie's like that. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:41 But you gotta have, you gotta be able to deal with that green.

Ian Edwards 41:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:44 When the green comes in on a text message.

Ian Edwards 41:45 Like, people get offended by the green bubble.

Joe Rogan 41:49 It's weird. I have friends that I go, "Oh, it's one of those. It's green."

Ian Edwards 41:53 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:53 Even smart people, I'm like, "Who gonna be fucking green."

Ian Edwards 41:56 (laughs) But maybe if they're smart and your bubble comes up green, it means something.

Joe Rogan 42:00 Hmm.

Ian Edwards 42:00 They know something.

Joe Rogan 42:01 Well, you know, it doesn't look green to them.

Ian Edwards 42:03 Right.

Joe Rogan 42:03 That's the thing.

Ian Edwards 42:03 Yeah. My-

Joe Rogan 42:04 Messenger is pretty cool looking.

Ian Edwards 42:05 Yeah. All my texts when they come in, like, they're all...

Joe Rogan 42:12 What do they look like?

Ian Edwards 42:13 Just let me show you. See if conversate. Well, I think mine are.

Joe Rogan 42:17 Oh, they're blue.

Ian Edwards 42:18 They are blue.

Joe Rogan 42:19 So yours come in blue anyway, so-

Ian Edwards 42:21 Right.

Joe Rogan 42:21 ... it looks blue. What do you have, a Note?

Ian Edwards 42:23 Yeah, a Galaxy-

Joe Rogan 42:24 Note 9?

Ian Edwards 42:24 ... Note 9, yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:25 That's the shit. I have one of those.

Ian Edwards 42:27 Yeah. Oh, yeah, see.

Joe Rogan 42:27 That's my other phone.

Ian Edwards 42:28 Yeah, you told me. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:29 That thing is badass.

Ian Edwards 42:30 Yeah, it is.

Joe Rogan 42:31 It's a beast of a phone. That screen is amazing.

Ian Edwards 42:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:33 It's so big. And you-

Ian Edwards 42:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:35 ... like, you get the whole screen.

Ian Edwards 42:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:37 There's no cutout.

Ian Edwards 42:38 Yeah, and it goes down the side and shit.

Joe Rogan 42:40 Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Ian Edwards 42:41 But I, I got it just in case, like, I'm on a flight and I wanna watch something on it.

Joe Rogan 42:45 Right.

Ian Edwards 42:45 Or just somewhere you wanna watch something on it. You download it and you have a full screen.

Joe Rogan 42:49 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 42:50 Instead of having, like, a, getting a iPad on top of that.

Joe Rogan 42:52 Right.

Ian Edwards 42:53 'Cause people have just too much shit.

Joe Rogan 42:55 Do you ever use the pen, though? That pen is useless to me.

Ian Edwards 42:57 Yeah, I just, like, like, signed a document today.

Joe Rogan 43:00 Really?

Ian Edwards 43:01 Like... Yeah, like Chandra needed a W-9 signed, a W-9 form for me-

Joe Rogan 43:06 Mm-hmm.

Ian Edwards 43:06 ... and I just, like...... downloaded it-

Joe Rogan 43:08 Wow.

Ian Edwards 43:08 ... signed it, and then emailed it back.

Joe Rogan 43:10 Wow.

Ian Edwards 43:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:11 I've never used it.

Ian Edwards 43:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:12 Maybe it's just me. I draw dicks on people's heads.

Ian Edwards 43:16 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:16 But-

Ian Edwards 43:17 That's a perfect use for it.

Joe Rogan 43:18 But I also feel like a rebel when I use my Android phone.

Ian Edwards 43:21 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:21 I do.

Ian Edwards 43:23 It's hilarious.

Joe Rogan 43:24 I do, I feel like a rebel.

Ian Edwards 43:25 Yeah, you do.

Joe Rogan 43:26 Fuck it, I'm crazy, man.

Ian Edwards 43:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:28 I'm bucking trends out here. Woo!

Ian Edwards 43:30 When, when, when do you use your Android? Like, like, so y- you have your iPhone.

Joe Rogan 43:35 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 43:35 So when do you use it?

Joe Rogan 43:36 I'm using it more, more often. I'm transitioning out of one phone number to another, which I have to do often.

Ian Edwards 43:40 Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan 43:41 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 43:42 So you have two different numbers and then you just-

Joe Rogan 43:43 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 43:44 ... yeah, okay.

Joe Rogan 43:44 I'm getting used to it. Play, I play with it a lot.

Ian Edwards 43:47 Right.

Joe Rogan 43:47 They got a new one that's coming out. There's a new one that's coming out that looks amazing.

Ian Edwards 43:50 Do you-

Joe Rogan 43:50 Note 10.

Ian Edwards 43:51 Note 10?

Joe Rogan 43:52 Yeah, it's coming out, like, in a couple weeks.

Ian Edwards 43:54 Yeah. I'm, I, I try to hold on to... I don't try to get every new phone. I try to hold onto it for a minute so I feel like they didn't rip me off and then maybe-

Joe Rogan 44:04 Hmm.

Ian Edwards 44:04 ... three or two phones later, then I'll get the other one. But if I buy every phone, I feel like, um, I wanna be a rebel within the rebel.

Joe Rogan 44:13 (laughs) Yeah, you're saying that-

Ian Edwards 44:13 You know what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 44:13 ... I'll get some old shit.

Ian Edwards 44:14 Yeah, yeah, I got some old shit.

Joe Rogan 44:15 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 44:15 You're not gonna get me, like, in this-

Joe Rogan 44:17 Right.

Ian Edwards 44:17 ... loop of just buying, buying, buying.

Joe Rogan 44:19 Yeah. It's comparison.

Ian Edwards 44:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:20 That's... Isn't that a weird thing? Like, that phone, they could stop right there. That phone's perfect. Like, it does everything.

Ian Edwards 44:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:26 What, what more do I need?

Ian Edwards 44:28 They probably-

Joe Rogan 44:28 It takes pictures, makes videos.

Ian Edwards 44:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:30 Get on the internet, ask it questions.

Ian Edwards 44:32 Right.

Joe Rogan 44:32 Gives me answers. Send emails. What the fuck else do I need?

Ian Edwards 44:37 Don't. You don't.

Joe Rogan 44:38 You don't.

Ian Edwards 44:38 It's... It does everything. Unless they come up with some new shit.

Joe Rogan 44:41 But if someone said, "Hey, Ian, I'll give you a million dollars, but you gotta use that phone only for the rest of your life," would you say yes?

Ian Edwards 44:50 This one?

Joe Rogan 44:50 Yes.

Ian Edwards 44:51 That's crazy, right?

Joe Rogan 44:52 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 44:53 (laughs) Yeah, that's a... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:55 They'd say, "Listen, if it breaks, we'll replace it, but that's your phone forever."

Ian Edwards 44:59 I know it'll slow-

Joe Rogan 45:00 You get one-

Ian Edwards 45:00 I know it'll slow down.

Joe Rogan 45:03 Well, Apple phones will slow down because they engineered them. And that made me sick.

Ian Edwards 45:07 Yes.

Joe Rogan 45:07 That, that almost made me stop using Apple stuff. I was like-

Ian Edwards 45:10 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 45:10 ... I can't believe that you guys are attributing this to b- to battery life. That is a-

Ian Edwards 45:14 Right.

Joe Rogan 45:14 That's in- disingenuous.

Ian Edwards 45:16 And then they admitted it, right?

Joe Rogan 45:17 Well, they admitted it, but they said they did it so that y- it would give you more battery life, because your battery degrades over time, so they engineered it. That is a convenient-

Ian Edwards 45:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:27 They, they also must have understood that people were gonna get frustrated with the fact that it slowed down considerably-

Ian Edwards 45:32 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 45:32 ... and it would give them an incentive to buy a new phone. To say that they didn't say that, like, come on, you guys are so goddamn smart, you make iPhones.

Ian Edwards 45:38 Right. They figured out everything.

Joe Rogan 45:40 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 45:40 But not that.

Joe Rogan 45:41 You didn't figure that out?

Ian Edwards 45:42 So you figured that out on purpose.

Joe Rogan 45:43 Right.

Ian Edwards 45:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:44 You also are one of the most successful businesses of all time. Apple has billions of dollars cash-

Ian Edwards 45:51 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 45:51 ... just sitting there. They have so much money.

Ian Edwards 45:55 They got, they got Pablo Escobar buried money.

Joe Rogan 45:58 They got so much money.

Ian Edwards 45:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:59 Apple has something like... How many billions of dollars does Apple have?

Narrator 46:04 225 billion.

Joe Rogan 46:06 Apple has so much cash-

Narrator 46:07 In cash. In cash.

Joe Rogan 46:08 ... that they could, they could probably wipe out half our debt. What's, like-

Narrator 46:12 And this is like, this is what they could buy right now and still have 25 billion left over.

Joe Rogan 46:15 They could buy Nike, Ferrari-

Ian Edwards 46:18 Damn.

Joe Rogan 46:19 ... Twitter.

Ian Edwards 46:19 Twitter? (laughs)

Narrator 46:20 And the Man- the Manchester United franchise.

Joe Rogan 46:23 And the Manchester United football team.

Ian Edwards 46:24 And still have how much leftover?

Narrator 46:26 25 billion left.

Ian Edwards 46:27 Jesus.

Joe Rogan 46:28 I say football for people like yourself that are, uh, aficionados.

Ian Edwards 46:30 Thank you. Thank you, sir.

Joe Rogan 46:31 I didn't say soccer.

Ian Edwards 46:32 I appreciate that.

Joe Rogan 46:33 Do they say soccer, um, where you're from, like, originally?

Ian Edwards 46:36 Uh, in England?

Joe Rogan 46:37 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 46:37 No.

Joe Rogan 46:38 No, not in England. In, in England it's-

Ian Edwards 46:39 They, they-

Joe Rogan 46:39 ... football.

Ian Edwards 46:39 Yeah, only in America they say soccer.

Joe Rogan 46:41 But before the, like... Where did it, where did it become football? Was it always football in Europe?

Ian Edwards 46:48 It was always football.

Joe Rogan 46:49 Well, why, why when it came over here did it switch over?

Ian Edwards 46:53 No idea.

Joe Rogan 46:55 Why didn't they come up with another name for football?

Ian Edwards 46:57 Oh, because-

Joe Rogan 46:57 'Cause you hardly ever kick a football.

Ian Edwards 46:59 I think, I think they were playing football, like, the soccer football.

Joe Rogan 47:04 Mm-hmm.

Ian Edwards 47:05 And then somebody picked up the ball and started running with it, and they started tackling each other. Like, I heard some story like that.

Joe Rogan 47:11 Huh.

Ian Edwards 47:11 And then they kinda created football and it evolved from there, but then they never changed the name.

Joe Rogan 47:18 Isn't that weird that, like, football is called football when the only person who kicks it is a guy who can't even play the game?

Ian Edwards 47:23 It's the least significant person on the team as far as getting pussy when there's a championship.

Joe Rogan 47:29 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 47:29 Yes. That is weird. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:31 Ah!

Ian Edwards 47:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:32 And you're not allowed to hit him, right?

Ian Edwards 47:34 Right. And you're not allowed to hit him, yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:36 That's crazy.

Narrator 47:37 No, no, you can.

Joe Rogan 47:37 You can hit him?

Narrator 47:38 It's not while he's in motion of his... A vulnerable person. They try to be safe about it.

Joe Rogan 47:42 Oh, so you can't hit him while he's kicking?

Narrator 47:44 While his legs, while his legs up in the air, yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:45 Oh, that's so ridiculous.

Narrator 47:46 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 47:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:46 What a bitch ass rule.

Narrator 47:48 If you hit the ball first-

Ian Edwards 47:49 You can... If you block the ball.

Joe Rogan 47:50 Okay, you can't, and you can hit his ass.

Ian Edwards 47:50 Yeah, if you block the ball, and then you can hit him, yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:51 But isn't it crazy that that's football? It's only one time it gets kicked.

Ian Edwards 47:56 Right.

Joe Rogan 47:57 How is that football? Why, why... What a silly name. Right?

Ian Edwards 48:01 Doesn't make sense. But I, I'm not mad at it, you know. It's like, fine, it's whatever.

Joe Rogan 48:06 Imagine if they called, you know, baseball, what would they call it? Foul?

Ian Edwards 48:12 If they (laughs) ...

Joe Rogan 48:12 Called it foul. We're playing foul.

Ian Edwards 48:14 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:14 Well, that's something that happens every now and then in this game. It has nothing to do with running around the bases. 'Cause it's, it's about touchdowns. You should call it touchdown.

Ian Edwards 48:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:21 Don't play touchdown.

Ian Edwards 48:22 Yeah, because it's just, you know, baseball, it's just like, we're trying to get from base to base.

Joe Rogan 48:27 Yeah. The NTL.

Ian Edwards 48:28 If they called baseball touchdown... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:29 No, if they called football touchdown...

Ian Edwards 48:31 Touchdown, yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:31 Call it the NTL.

Ian Edwards 48:32 Right.

Joe Rogan 48:32 National Touchdown League. We're gonna wa- we're gonna play touchdown.

Ian Edwards 48:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:36 That's the game, it's not football.

Ian Edwards 48:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:37 What, your foot doesn't have-

Ian Edwards 48:38 Right.

Joe Rogan 48:38 ... shit to do with it except running.

Narrator 48:39 I'm looking through an explanation of why we call it soccer, and it's f- more confusing than d- we care (laughs) to, to go through.

Joe Rogan 48:46 Do people... Um, when you go back to England, if you're f- from England and you're-

Ian Edwards 48:49 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 48:49 ... talking about it, do people... Do they resent the term soccer? Like, how does that work?

Ian Edwards 48:53 S- Some people do. Like, I used to resent the term soccer.

Joe Rogan 48:56 Really?

Ian Edwards 48:56 Yeah, but I live here, and it's like, "Get over it." You know what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 49:00 Mm-hmm.

Ian Edwards 49:00 As a person, I gotta get over it 'cause it was my favorite sport growing up.

Joe Rogan 49:04 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 49:05 So I just got over it, and then now I even call it soccer. My podcast is soccer. I don't even say football.

Joe Rogan 49:10 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 49:10 But when I go to England, I just-

Joe Rogan 49:12 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 49:12 Or just when I'm around football...... soccer people, I say football.

Joe Rogan 49:17 I get it.

Ian Edwards 49:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:18 It's like if I, if I was talking to someone, they, they wanted to talk about pool, but they want to call it bumper pool.

Ian Edwards 49:24 Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan 49:25 (sighs) Oh, lord.

Ian Edwards 49:25 (laughs) That piss you off?

Joe Rogan 49:26 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like the, the Women's World Cup, they won the World Cup in, uh-

Ian Edwards 49:31 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 49:31 ... United States did for, uh, soccer.

Ian Edwards 49:33 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 49:33 And, but it's not... You know, it's football. To people like yourself-

Ian Edwards 49:37 Right.

Joe Rogan 49:37 ... it's the World Cup.

Ian Edwards 49:38 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 49:38 Like, how can they call the World Cup soccer to appease the one country that gives the least amount of fucks about the sport?

Ian Edwards 49:44 Right.

Joe Rogan 49:44 Isn't that weird?

Ian Edwards 49:45 Yeah, that is weird. That's the power of America.

Joe Rogan 49:47 That's how- that's crazy.

Ian Edwards 49:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:48 If you really stop and think about it. We made them change the name of their thing.

Ian Edwards 49:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:51 But we're like, "Uh, we're not gonna go in there. We'll call it soccer!" Okay.

Ian Edwards 49:55 If- we're part of it-

Joe Rogan 49:56 Okay.

Ian Edwards 49:56 ... but we're calling it this.

Joe Rogan 49:57 They call it fo- do they call it football in, like, Argentina?

Ian Edwards 50:00 Yeah. Th- they-

Joe Rogan 50:01 Okay. Everywhere?

Ian Edwards 50:02 Foob- football. You know, but it's football, just their, their pronunciation and spelling of it.

Joe Rogan 50:06 But then Australia, they're the rebels of the rebels.

Ian Edwards 50:08 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:09 They have their own rules, they have-

Ian Edwards 50:10 Ah-

Joe Rogan 50:11 ... Australian-

Ian Edwards 50:11 Australian rules (laughs) football.

Joe Rogan 50:13 ... rules football.

Ian Edwards 50:13 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:14 They changed the rules-

Ian Edwards 50:15 Right.

Joe Rogan 50:15 ... for more ruggedness.

Ian Edwards 50:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:17 'Cause they're too y- You know what it was over there? They were too used to rugby, like those New Zealand savages-

Ian Edwards 50:22 So they had to-

Joe Rogan 50:22 ... that do the haka.

Ian Edwards 50:23 ... yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:24 Yeah. They're fucking savage.

Ian Edwards 50:25 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:25 You can't play that bitch-ass game with a helmet.

Ian Edwards 50:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:28 These guys are running around, biting each other in the dick and the scrums.

Ian Edwards 50:32 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:32 Right? That's the most rugged game.

Ian Edwards 50:34 Anything to win.

Joe Rogan 50:35 That's the game they should play in America. All the CTE problems they're having, you- you'd have a little bit of that with, with anything contact sports, you're gonna get injuries.

Ian Edwards 50:42 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 50:43 But you- I think you'd have less with no gear.

Ian Edwards 50:46 So, uh, the- the- both those things confuse me. I don't know the difference between rugby and Australian rules football. And I think in Australia-

Joe Rogan 50:53 Hmm.

Ian Edwards 50:53 ... they play both.

Joe Rogan 50:55 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 50:55 So that's just... I'd be just confused, like, what is the difference?

Joe Rogan 50:59 Well, the ball's different, right?

Ian Edwards 51:01 They both seem like...

Joe Rogan 51:03 What's a rugby ball look like?

Narrator 51:05 Uh, they literally look about the same.

Joe Rogan 51:07 Is it no different?

Narrator 51:08 Not no d- There is slight differences, but they look about the same. It's like a football-

Ian Edwards 51:11 Hmm.

Narrator 51:11 ... with more rounded edges, and it's a little more plump.

Joe Rogan 51:13 As far as I know, they could be playing with a round ball. I literally don't even know.

Ian Edwards 51:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:17 I have no idea what a rugby ball looks like.

Ian Edwards 51:18 No, it's kinda, like, it kinda looks like an American...

Joe Rogan 51:21 Oh, that's it?

Ian Edwards 51:21 It's a cross between a basketball and a football.

Joe Rogan 51:24 Yeah, it's like a fat football.

Ian Edwards 51:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:26 So, that's an Australian-used football, though. It's similar to a rugby ball.

Narrator 51:30 Right, right.

Joe Rogan 51:30 Okay, so that's not a foot- rugby ball, but it's close. So there's probably, like, football, Australian rules football, and then rugby ball.

Narrator 51:38 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 51:38 Right? What is the rules? What can they do?

Ian Edwards 51:41 Yeah, what are they doing different?

Joe Rogan 51:44 It's also sometimes referred to in the media as the round ball game. (laughs) What? The world game and international football, Australian rules football, referred to as Australian football. Hmm.

Narrator 51:56 So, I think, I think, yeah, it's a little more, like, fluid. Like, the game doesn't stop as much. There's less stoppages. They kinda just keep going.

Joe Rogan 52:02 Okay, it says it's a little more fluid, where players can pretty much run around where they choose. They still have a specific end side goal to score, but it's more open in between. Another main difference is that the game is played in 20-minute quarters, not halves. Hmm.

Narrator 52:17 I was trying... I told you a couple while ago, they're adding three-versus-three basketball to the Olympics coming up, and the way that that game is played is so different than traditional basketball. Like, it's just a running clock. The- once you score, you just take it out, throw it back, run across the line, go score again. It's a very fast-paced game.

Ian Edwards 52:32 So they- so they're bringing, like, park ball to the Olympics?

Narrator 52:34 Oh, oh, I- I think so. Uh, apparently it's very popular in Europe. It's not like that big three basketball that sort of started here.

Ian Edwards 52:40 Mm-hmm.

Narrator 52:40 It's not that same basketball.

Ian Edwards 52:41 Mm-hmm.

Narrator 52:42 But it's popular, I guess ............................

Joe Rogan 52:43 When W- Will Harris was in here... Will Harris has this, uh, show called Anatomy of a Fighter.

Ian Edwards 52:48 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 52:48 Uh, he's, uh, a videographer, and he went to Dagestan to watch Khabib Nurmagomedov, who is the UFC lightweight champion-

Ian Edwards 52:55 Yes.

Joe Rogan 52:55 ... who's a fucking animal, man.

Ian Edwards 52:56 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 52:57 He just don- he's t- uh, one of the rare undefeated top-of-the-food-chain fighters in MMA.

Ian Edwards 53:02 Right.

Joe Rogan 53:03 They play a game of basketball in Dagestan where they don't dribble the ball at all. They just, like, wrestle each other to the ground. And they even choke each other and get each other in arm bars and shit.

Ian Edwards 53:12 So that- this is-

Joe Rogan 53:13 This is it. Like, they-

Ian Edwards 53:13 ... they're just practicing jujitsu.

Joe Rogan 53:16 Yeah, they're... Well, look, they don't, they don't dribble at all. They're basically playing, like-

Ian Edwards 53:19 That's football.

Joe Rogan 53:20 ... a football type, but they're shooting at the basketball hoop. But they throw each other to the ground. And Khabib will fucking hip toss dudes, 'cause they, they have it right next to the wrestling mats.

Ian Edwards 53:30 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 53:31 So, part of what they filmed was he was in a wrestling match with this dude when they were trying to take a player out. So he's- grabs ahold of this dude, and when he grabs ahold of this dude, he drags him to the ground...

Ian Edwards 53:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:43 And gets him in a back, gets him in an arm bar, gets him in a rear naked choke.

Ian Edwards 53:47 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:47 It's crazy. He makes the guy tap, and then he doesn't let him up. Like, here it goes. Look.

Ian Edwards 53:50 Okay.

Joe Rogan 53:50 Look, he grabs him.

Ian Edwards 53:52 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 53:52 Like, they're allowed to do this. The guy slips through, he gets him und- They're sort of, they're grappling... First of all, they're grappling on the fucking hardwood floor.

Ian Edwards 54:00 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 54:00 Full blast gra- grappling. And then he takes him to the ground. Like, this is serious.

Ian Edwards 54:03 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 54:03 This isn't playing around.

Ian Edwards 54:05 All right.

Joe Rogan 54:05 He takes the dudes back. Now they're on the floor again. They're on the hardwood floor, and he's fucking choking him out.

Ian Edwards 54:10 He just Conor McGregor-ed him.

Joe Rogan 54:11 And then they keep going, and as they keep going, he's getting the guy in an arm bar later. Like- (laughs)

Ian Edwards 54:17 This is, this is ba-

Joe Rogan 54:17 Look at this. Look at this.

Ian Edwards 54:18 Oh, shit. This is basketball for white dudes that can't dribble. That's all this is, just like, how do we, like...

Joe Rogan 54:26 But, yeah, I don't know, man. I think it's, this is the most effective way to use wrestling with basketball, is to eliminate all the dribbling.

Ian Edwards 54:30 Yeah, definitely that. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 54:33 I think they just wanted to make something that's, like, a really hard workout that's very competitive. I think... I- I don't know if other people are doing this in Europe or if this is just something that Dagestan figured out. But, look, these are some of the most savage fighters in the UFC.

Ian Edwards 54:47 It does look fun.

Joe Rogan 54:48 It looks fun as fuck.

Ian Edwards 54:49 Yeah.

Narrator 54:50 I assume that-

Joe Rogan 54:50 Unless you get Khabib on your back.

Ian Edwards 54:51 Yeah.

Narrator 54:52 ... they just don't have access to a, a very good basketball and pump to keep it pumped up, and the floor is-

Ian Edwards 54:57 (laughs)

Narrator 54:57 ... probably not good to be dribbled on. So they just figured out a better game to play instead of dealing with that fucked-up ball on court all the time.

Joe Rogan 55:01 Well, that's a ridiculous way to think, Jamie.

Ian Edwards 55:03 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:03 These are world-class fighters. They travel all over the world. They have all sort- sorts of gym equipment. They have mats, they have weights, they have everything.

Narrator 55:09 That ball's missing skin on it, that's a shitty basketball. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:11 Yeah.

Narrator 55:11 I've played with lots of basketballs in my life. You would never even try to dribble that. You need to find another one.

Joe Rogan 55:15 Oh, it is missing, it's got a hole in it.

Ian Edwards 55:15 It's like American football slash-... jujitsu-

Joe Rogan 55:19 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 55:20 ... and slash basketball.

Narrator 55:21 There are a lot of courts, too. Like, if you have a dead spot on the court, you almost don't even wanna play on it.

Joe Rogan 55:24 But, dude, they could get another ball. They all have brand new sneakers on and-

Ian Edwards 55:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:27 ... leggings and shit.

Ian Edwards 55:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:28 I mean, it's not like Dak stands in the middle of nowhere.

Narrator 55:31 I, I don't-

Joe Rogan 55:31 They could get goods there.

Narrator 55:32 They could, but they might just like this game better. They're just like, "Fuck it, we're playing this 'cause we're all better at this."

Joe Rogan 55:36 Well, that, I think, I think it helps them. I'm saying that your leg made you go one-on-one with the basket. Maybe I did not-

Narrator 55:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:43 ... understand the rules. They make them up.

Narrator 55:44 Right. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:44 But you said it was like I was swearing for no reason. Oh, they're, they're, like, they're, they're talking out a dispute.

Ian Edwards 55:51 Yeah. How do you argue with Khabib?

Joe Rogan 55:53 You can't.

Ian Edwards 55:53 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Narrator 55:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:54 That's the top dog.

Ian Edwards 55:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:55 That's the beast of the fucking crew. Um, but, yeah, it's, it's weird what, what people will get really into. Like cricket. Cricket is one-

Ian Edwards 56:04 I hate that.

Joe Rogan 56:04 ... that, that Europeans brought over to India, right?

Ian Edwards 56:06 Yeah. They brought it to the West Indies. They brought it to any country that they colonized. And all those countries love it and they play it.

Joe Rogan 56:13 Oh, so it's a colonization game.

Ian Edwards 56:16 Yeah. And then now they have, like, almost like the equivalent of, like, World Cups of cricket in all the countries. Australia's a big cricket country 'cause they ... Yeah, it's a, it's a big thing. The West Indies and everything.

Joe Rogan 56:29 Strange looking game too, right?

Ian Edwards 56:31 It's just boring.

Joe Rogan 56:32 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 56:33 It takes, it takes days to play sometimes.

Joe Rogan 56:36 Days?

Ian Edwards 56:36 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:38 Days?

Ian Edwards 56:38 Yeah.

Narrator 56:39 For over a week I think sometimes.

Joe Rogan 56:40 Pfft.

Narrator 56:40 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 56:40 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 56:41 For one game?

Narrator 56:41 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 56:42 Yeah.

Narrator 56:42 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:42 How many hours a day?

Narrator 56:43 Long.

Ian Edwards 56:44 Too many.

Narrator 56:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:45 Oh my God.

Ian Edwards 56:45 It's just too many, man. I, I, I c- I, I ... It used to kill me. It was fun to play in the backyard 'cause it's ... You can just get some sticks and stick them in the ground.

Narrator 56:55 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 56:55 And then put one across the top as a wicket.

Joe Rogan 56:57 That ... This is a game I have no idea. I couldn't even draw you a picture of what the stick looks like.

Narrator 57:04 I don't ... I just call it the big flat paddle kinda thing.

Ian Edwards 57:06 It's just three sticks.

Joe Rogan 57:06 Three sticks?

Ian Edwards 57:06 Like three sticks and then you put, like, one on top across the all of them. So then when the ... You're out when the guy who's pitching or bowling and you swing and ... Or if you don't swing and it hits the wicket and they knock over com- kinda like bowling sticks, then you're out.

Joe Rogan 57:22 What?

Ian Edwards 57:23 Yeah. And then you get points if you hit it.

Joe Rogan 57:25 So you're supposed to ... You're trying to protect the wicket?

Ian Edwards 57:27 Protect the wicket and hit it so far that you can run from stick to stick. You and your partner who's batting at the other end. And the m- the m- the most amount of runs you can get, that just adds to the score.

Joe Rogan 57:41 Can I see that? I wanna see that. That sounds so weird. Pull up a video of dudes playing cricket.

Ian Edwards 57:46 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:46 I don't think I've ever watched a game.

Ian Edwards 57:47 Oh, yeah?

Joe Rogan 57:48 I think I've seen, like, highlights on television maybe.

Narrator 57:52 That's not gonna find a video. Oh, there's one right there.

Joe Rogan 57:54 You know, I've seen-

Ian Edwards 57:54 That's funny (laughs) that you've never seen cricket.

Joe Rogan 57:55 Not a fucking ga-

Ian Edwards 57:56 No?

Joe Rogan 57:57 No, no chance. I don't know. See, I'm, I'm already stunned by their outfits.

Ian Edwards 58:01 Yeah, everybody's-

Joe Rogan 58:01 So this guy doesn't have nothing on. Some dudes are covered up in gear.

Ian Edwards 58:05 Those are the, the, the guys with the helmets 'cause the ball is hard as fuck. I got hit by a cricket ball by the strongest kid in school one time.

Joe Rogan 58:13 Oh, this is crazy.

Ian Edwards 58:13 And I was like, "I'm done."

Joe Rogan 58:14 The way they throw it, it's so weird. What-

Narrator 58:18 Yeah, like, the guys in the outfield don't have anything 'cause they just catch the ball bare-handed, right?

Ian Edwards 58:21 Yeah, bare-handed. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:22 Oh.

Ian Edwards 58:23 And I feel like they should have mitts.

Joe Rogan 58:24 Look how he throws it. He runs at you.

Ian Edwards 58:26 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 58:28 He runs and literally tries to hit you with the ball.

Narrator 58:31 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 58:33 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:33 That's crazy. And it ... Does it have to hit the ground first? Is that the deal?

Ian Edwards 58:36 Yeah. I think, yeah, it does. It does from what I remember.

Joe Rogan 58:39 'Cause it seems like it, but the dude, like, runs across the line.

Ian Edwards 58:43 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 58:43 This is a bullshit game.

Narrator 58:44 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 58:45 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:45 It's a 100% bullshit game. Like, I don't ... I'm not a big fan of baseball. I used to play it.

Ian Edwards 58:52 Me neither.

Joe Rogan 58:52 I think it's kinda boring.

Ian Edwards 58:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:54 My wrestling coach used to say, "It's not a sport. It's a skills game. It's a skills game. It's not a sport. You ever see a baseball player so fucking tired he had to push himself?"

Ian Edwards 59:02 (laughs) He had to push himself.

Joe Rogan 59:03 Coach Murph. Coach Murphy.

Ian Edwards 59:05 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:05 Wrestling coach in high school.

Ian Edwards 59:06 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:06 Also the same guy tried to get me to play football when I weighed 135 pounds.

Ian Edwards 59:10 Oh, word?

Joe Rogan 59:10 Crazy asshole. Yeah.

Ian Edwards 59:12 Maybe he saw some natural athlete shit in you.

Joe Rogan 59:14 No, I just thought I was mean.

Ian Edwards 59:16 Oh, yeah?

Narrator 59:16 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:16 I thought I was mean. I thought I'd be good.

Ian Edwards 59:18 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:18 I was mean and then I was a wrestler.

Narrator 59:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:20 Thought I'd be good.

Narrator 59:21 You'd put him at great safety probably just fucking people up.

Ian Edwards 59:23 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:23 I would get crippled. That's what would have happened.

Ian Edwards 59:26 (laughs) Well-

Joe Rogan 59:27 We had this dude on our team, his name was Bob Baker. He weighed a good solid 300 pounds.

Ian Edwards 59:31 Oh, for real?

Joe Rogan 59:32 He was so big. Maybe not. Maybe I'm exaggerating, but he was 250. He was our heavyweight. And I was like, "How, how is he and me?"

Ian Edwards 59:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:38 "How are we gonna play the same game where he could just run me over? Get the fuck out of here."

Ian Edwards 59:41 What, what did he want you to play?

Joe Rogan 59:43 I don't know. We didn't even just ... It didn't get that far.

Ian Edwards 59:45 Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan 59:45 I went crazy.

Ian Edwards 59:46 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:46 I was already fighting too. I was doing martial arts.

Ian Edwards 59:48 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 59:48 And wrestling at the same time. Like, "Look, man, I ca- ... I don't ... No, I'm not doing that." I'm already doing shit that freaks me out.

Ian Edwards 59:53 Physical shit, yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:54 And scares the shit out of me all the time. I don't wanna get scared by even bigger people. At least-

Ian Edwards 59:58 So hilarious.

Joe Rogan 59:58 ... martial arts and wrestling was confined to your own weight class.

Ian Edwards 1:00:02 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:00:02 You know? If I had to wrestle some badass dude, at least, uh, it was my own weight class.

Ian Edwards 1:00:07 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:00:08 You know?

Ian Edwards 1:00:08 Yeah, this is like the weight scale is all over the place on a football field.

Joe Rogan 1:00:12 Yeah, man. It's all over the place. And the athleticism is all over the place too, you know?

Ian Edwards 1:00:17 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:00:17 You get a guy like Herschel Walker in, you know, if you're in high school and there's a Herschel Walker in high school-

Ian Edwards 1:00:23 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:00:23 ... and he's on some team that you're opposing.

Ian Edwards 1:00:25 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:00:25 Good luck, fuck face.

Narrator 1:00:27 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 1:00:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:00:28 There's, there's people that are just superior.

Ian Edwards 1:00:30 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 1:00:31 Just superior. There's not a damn thing you can do about it.

Ian Edwards 1:00:34 There, there, uh, there are people like that in martial arts, like, when you're, or wrestling?

Joe Rogan 1:00:39 Oh, yeah.

Ian Edwards 1:00:40 Yeah?

Joe Rogan 1:00:40 Yeah. There's things like that. And outliers, you know? There's outliers.

Ian Edwards 1:00:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:43 ... in all sports. And a lot of it has to do, you know, with what you did growing up. Sometimes people do things growing up, like a lot of wrestlers-

Ian Edwards 1:00:52 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:00:52 ... it turns out, like, working on farms as a kid-

Ian Edwards 1:00:56 Ah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:56 ... is a great way for wrestlers to be super strong.

Ian Edwards 1:01:00 You know who sh- who make good wrestlers? Cowboys.

Joe Rogan 1:01:02 Oh, yeah.

Ian Edwards 1:01:02 Because they, they-... they-

Joe Rogan 1:01:04 Mm-hmm.

Ian Edwards 1:01:04 ... you know, they steer, uh, get the cow-

Joe Rogan 1:01:06 Yeah, they gotta get a hold of that fucking cow-

Ian Edwards 1:01:07 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:08 ... and drag it to the ground. They do it all the time, they practice on them.

Ian Edwards 1:01:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:10 Yeah, for sure. Well, also they're tough-

Ian Edwards 1:01:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:13 ... because you're going to get banged up a lot.

Ian Edwards 1:01:14 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:01:14 And that, a lot of it is, like, mental toughness.

Ian Edwards 1:01:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:17 You know? But f- people who have to c- like, there's a dude, Matt Hughes, he was, like, one of the greatest welterweights of all time.

Ian Edwards 1:01:23 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:01:23 And he was ungodly strong.

Ian Edwards 1:01:25 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:01:25 This dude from Illinois-

Ian Edwards 1:01:26 Because he fucking-

Joe Rogan 1:01:27 ... but he grew up on a farm.

Ian Edwards 1:01:27 Grew up on a farm-

Joe Rogan 1:01:28 Yeah.

Ian Edwards 1:01:28 ... wrestling animals. I w- I was at a party one time-

Joe Rogan 1:01:31 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 1:01:31 ... right? I was at a party one time, and th- they're thrown by these rappers I used to write on this show, Lyricist Lounge. So one of the rappers, Master Fool, dude from Brooklyn, was friends with these cowboys.

Joe Rogan 1:01:41 That's a great name, Master Fool.

Ian Edwards 1:01:42 Master Fool.

Joe Rogan 1:01:43 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 1:01:43 He's, he was dope, too. He's like, he's like the Flavor Flav of the, the, of the rappers-

Joe Rogan 1:01:48 Oh, okay.

Ian Edwards 1:01:48 ... for that group. And he's just like, he just talks to everybody, so he became friends with these cowboys. They came to visit LA for a week, and live in the house with the rappers. And, you know, they were real cowboys. They, like, have their lassos out on the set and shit like that.

Joe Rogan 1:02:02 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 1:02:03 So then at the party, this Black dude with dreads got into an argument with one of the cowboys, and they're like, "We're not going to fight in the house." So everybody walks around the corner to the street, and in five seconds, that cowboy had the Black dude with dreads tied up with his hands, just, just t- like, twisty tied his body-

Joe Rogan 1:02:27 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 1:02:27 ... right? And had him on the ground bleeding.

Joe Rogan 1:02:30 Jesus.

Ian Edwards 1:02:31 And then they was like, "All right. Let him up and let's start again." And he got up, and he just did it to the Black dude again. And I was like, "I'll never fuck with a cowboy."

Joe Rogan 1:02:38 If, if, if a cowboy is a wrestler-

Ian Edwards 1:02:40 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:02:40 ... like, if he knows how to wrestle too, both of those things-

Ian Edwards 1:02:43 Yes.

Joe Rogan 1:02:43 ... wrestlers are so goddamn strong. You don't realize until they grab you.

Ian Edwards 1:02:47 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:02:47 And then you realize how helpless you are.

Ian Edwards 1:02:50 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:51 It's a weird feeling. And even if you, you can wrestle, if you, like... I wasn't a good wrestler in high school-

Ian Edwards 1:02:55 Oh, word?

Joe Rogan 1:02:56 ... but I made it to the states. And, uh, I remember when, uh, I was wrestling this kid who I eventually became friends with, because he us- he used to come to Nautilus Plus-

Ian Edwards 1:03:06 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:03:06 ... which is a place where I was teaching TaeKwonDo.

Ian Edwards 1:03:08 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:03:08 And then we ran into each other when we were both, like, 20? Like, probably 20 or something like that. It was really cool.

Ian Edwards 1:03:15 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:03:15 He was a really nice guy. His name was Murphy too, I don't remember his first name. Might've been, that might've been his first name. A lot of Irish people named Murphy.

Ian Edwards 1:03:21 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:21 It was like (laughs) -

Ian Edwards 1:03:22 It was like...

Joe Rogan 1:03:23 ... the most common name amongst Irish people probably. But, uh, I was, like, doing pretty good in-

Ian Edwards 1:03:29 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:03:29 ... like, regional shit, but this guy got ahold of me and I was like, "Fuck."

Ian Edwards 1:03:32 Oh, shit.

Joe Rogan 1:03:32 He just made me realize, like, this is another level of wrestling.

Ian Edwards 1:03:35 Oh, shit.

Joe Rogan 1:03:35 He had been wrestling all of his life.

Ian Edwards 1:03:37 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:03:37 I'd only been doing it for a year. He just ragged on me around. I was like, "Fuck."

Ian Edwards 1:03:41 Damn.

Joe Rogan 1:03:41 And he wasn't even, like, s- like, a champion. I don't think he won the states. And then whoever did win the states didn't win the nationals. So it was like there was this, like, tiers to it.

Ian Edwards 1:03:50 Levels and shit.

Joe Rogan 1:03:50 And then, like, a national high school champion ain't shit compared to a division one NCAA Amer- All-American college wrestler.

Ian Edwards 1:03:58 Damn.

Joe Rogan 1:03:59 Those college wrestlers are off the chain. And then they ain't shit compared to, like, Jordan Burroughs.

Ian Edwards 1:04:04 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:04:04 It's not that they're not shit. I, I should n- I would never say that about... I'm just saying that in comparison-

Ian Edwards 1:04:08 In comparison.

Joe Rogan 1:04:08 ... because I, I admire them almost more than any other athlete, because there's no professional venue for what they do.

Ian Edwards 1:04:15 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:04:15 One of the more amazing things about wrestling is they go into it knowing there's no professional sport, there's no prof- other than... You know, pro wrestling is different, it's, it's entertainment.

Ian Edwards 1:04:24 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:04:24 But there's no professional 135-pound wrestling-

Ian Edwards 1:04:27 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:04:27 ... 180-pound wr- there's none of that. It doesn't exist.

Ian Edwards 1:04:29 They just love it.

Joe Rogan 1:04:30 They just love it.

Ian Edwards 1:04:31 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:04:31 And it's the toughest thing to do, physically. They're fucking animals.

Ian Edwards 1:04:35 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:04:35 But then when you get to the top of the top of the food chain, like, a m- multiple time world champion like Jordan Burroughs, he had a wrestling match with Ben Askren, and he just ran him over. Just ran him over.

Ian Edwards 1:04:45 Oh, word?

Joe Rogan 1:04:45 And Ben Askren is one of the best grapplers to ever compete in MMA, and he was also a two-time Olympian.

Ian Edwards 1:04:51 (slamming sound) Wrestler?

Joe Rogan 1:04:51 Yes. Uh, but-

Ian Edwards 1:04:52 And that guy-

Joe Rogan 1:04:53 ... he ran him over.

Ian Edwards 1:04:54 Damn.

Joe Rogan 1:04:54 And Ben Askren runs most people over when he wrestles with them.

Ian Edwards 1:04:57 Shit.

Joe Rogan 1:04:58 Yeah. Levels?

Ian Edwards 1:04:59 Levels.

Joe Rogan 1:05:00 Levels.

Ian Edwards 1:05:00 Levels.

Joe Rogan 1:05:01 It's never ends with-

Ian Edwards 1:05:02 Speaking of Askren, is he awake yet?

Joe Rogan 1:05:04 (smacks lips) He's awake.

Ian Edwards 1:05:05 Yeah. How is he doing?

Joe Rogan 1:05:05 Wake and talking. He's, uh, he handled it like a champion.

Ian Edwards 1:05:08 Oh, good.

Joe Rogan 1:05:09 Yeah, he, uh, went on, uh, Ariel Helwani show and talked about it.

Ian Edwards 1:05:13 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:05:13 And he just said, "Uh, yeah, it sucks. The guy's a douchebag." And he went on like... (laughs)

Ian Edwards 1:05:17 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:05:17 "It sucks losing to him."

Ian Edwards 1:05:19 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 1:05:19 "Uh, you know, I don't like him." He said, uh, "You know, he just..."

Ian Edwards 1:05:23 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:05:23 "What can you do?"

Ian Edwards 1:05:24 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:05:24 He's like, "He's not gonna read the comments." And he's a smart guy.

Ian Edwards 1:05:27 Smart, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:27 He's a very smart guy. But, uh, he took it like a man. To be able to go and do an interview right after you get knocked out like that-

Ian Edwards 1:05:33 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:05:34 ... is very admirable. But that's who he is. That's how you get to be a guy who's as good a wrestler as a guy like Ben Askren-

Ian Edwards 1:05:40 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:05:40 ... who can handle a loss like that.

Ian Edwards 1:05:42 D- what do you think of the... I forgot... I can't, I can't pronounce the guy's name who beat him.

Joe Rogan 1:05:47 Jorge Masvidal.

Ian Edwards 1:05:48 Masvidal, what he said after the fight.

Joe Rogan 1:05:50 He said he would smack him if he saw him at Whole Foods.

Ian Edwards 1:05:52 Yeah, I think-

Joe Rogan 1:05:53 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 1:05:53 ... he's, I think it's just a little too much.

Joe Rogan 1:05:55 (laughs)

Ian Edwards 1:05:55 You won.

Joe Rogan 1:05:56 I, I s- okay.

Ian Edwards 1:05:57 But I, I don't know their history.

Joe Rogan 1:05:59 He... The history is rough.

Ian Edwards 1:06:01 (clears throat)

Joe Rogan 1:06:01 Excuse me. It's, like, 10 years of them, uh-

Ian Edwards 1:06:05 Okay.

Joe Rogan 1:06:05 ... giving him a hard time, of, if, uh, M- uh, Ben Askren giving Masvidal a hard time-

Ian Edwards 1:06:09 Oh.

Joe Rogan 1:06:09 ... according to Masvidal. Lot of talking shit, which some people think is friendly, and Masvidal, Street Jesus doesn't fuck around.

Ian Edwards 1:06:17 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:06:17 All right? If you wanna talk shit-

Ian Edwards 1:06:19 Street Jesus. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:06:19 If you wanna talk shit to Street Jesus, he will fucking make fun of you even after he flatlines you.

Ian Edwards 1:06:23 Right, right.

Joe Rogan 1:06:23 And that's what he did. He flatlined him in five seconds, made him the fastest ever KO in UFC history-

Ian Edwards 1:06:29 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:06:29 ... and then mocked him afterwards and said he would smack him if he saw him at Whole Foods. But see, we're talking about it.

Ian Edwards 1:06:35 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:06:35 So, Masvidal is smart. This is a-

Ian Edwards 1:06:37 Right, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:06:38 This is am- amazing marketing ploy.

Ian Edwards 1:06:40 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:06:40 I mean, he's, he's become, in one fight, the most talked-about fighter in the sport.

Ian Edwards 1:06:46 Because he did something in the sport that's been around for a little bit that nobody's ever done before.

Joe Rogan 1:06:51 Yeah. Ben Askren was undefeated.

Ian Edwards 1:06:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:06:53 Undefeated. And Masvidal comes out, flatlines