Joe Rogan Experience #1329 - Brian Moses

1. 0:00 – 1:39

   Roast Battle as comedy’s “safe space” for brutal jokes

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      Boo, boo, boo, boom. Brian Moses, you are one of the saviors of comedy. I want you to know this. Honestly, truly, really, 'cause the Roast Battle, Roast Battle is like one of the last real, like, sanctuaries for horrible comedy, like, nasty-

   2. BMBrian Moses0:21

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      ... evil, fucked up, but hilarious comedy. And the way you do it, where you make everybody hug it out at the end, and y- you know, and you, like, set the ground rules, no violence. This is just j- joke writing.

   4. BMBrian Moses0:34

      This is all, this is just, words don't hurt us.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:37

      When I first came back to The Comedy Store, it was like, how many years ago it was now? It's like five years ago or something like that.

   6. BMBrian Moses0:42

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:42

      And-

   8. BMBrian Moses0:42

      The exile was over.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:43

      ... and when I saw Roast Battle, it was one of the things that made me go, "Whoa, this place is different now. This place has changed. It's like, it's evolved."

   10. BMBrian Moses0:52

       We brought like, kind of like some like what of a, uh, a fight culture back to it. You know what I mean?

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:56

       Yeah.

   12. BMBrian Moses0:56

       You know, like where, if you have a problem, you know, we're in a place where all we use is words anyway, so duke it out that way.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       Yeah. Well, not just that. There's people that don't have problems with each other and they just-

   14. BMBrian Moses1:07

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:07

       ... fuck each other up on that stage. (laughs) There's like people with like devastated friendships.

   16. BMBrian Moses1:11

       Yeah, they ruin friendships. They, uh-

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:13

       Yeah. (laughs)

   18. BMBrian Moses1:13

       But I mean, but nobody's ever attacked each other, so...

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:15

       That's amazing.

   20. BMBrian Moses1:16

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:16

       Uh, 'cause I've been there a couple times. I stopped going. It makes me feel bad. (laughs)

   22. BMBrian Moses1:20

       Does it? It's consensual. Everybody-

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:23

       Dude.

   24. BMBrian Moses1:23

       ... everybody's involved.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:24

       I fucking, I'm the commentator for the UFC-

   26. BMBrian Moses1:27

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:27

       ... and Roast Battle makes me feel bad. (laughs)

   28. BMBrian Moses1:29

       That's the combat sport you don't like?

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:31

       Just stop and think about how crazy that is.

   30. BMBrian Moses1:33

       That's nuts. Why? How is that possible?
2. 1:39 – 3:15

   When roasts go too far: the anatomy of a shocking joke

   1. BMBrian Moses1:39

      Oh. I saw, there was a joke recently by, uh, it was Jimmy Carr and Megan Galey, and, and Jimmy was judging her and she was battling a puppet. That's how crazy this show gets. (laughs)

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:49

      (laughs)

   3. BMBrian Moses1:49

      So this girl's got like a half hour on Comedy Central, she's, she's brilliant. And, uh, Jimmy said something snide to her, and her response was, "I wouldn't fuck you if you raped me."

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:58

      Oh.

   5. BMBrian Moses1:58

      And I was like, "That's... I can't believe I've never heard that before."

   6. JRJoe Rogan2:01

      Mm-hmm.

   7. BMBrian Moses2:01

      And his response to that was, "Oh, you can say funny things." (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan2:05

      Oh, wow.

   9. BMBrian Moses2:05

      It was gorgeous.

   10. JRJoe Rogan2:07

       I wouldn't fuck you if you raped me. How about... Hmm.

   11. BMBrian Moses2:10

       (laughs) Let's break that down.

   12. JRJoe Rogan2:12

       Yeah. I would have to be like this about that joke. Hmm, I don't, I don't know if I'm going along with that one.

   13. BMBrian Moses2:16

       False premise.

   14. JRJoe Rogan2:18

       Yeah. Yeah.

   15. BMBrian Moses2:19

       Not going along with that one. Why not?

   16. JRJoe Rogan2:20

       I don't know. Just-

   17. BMBrian Moses2:21

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan2:22

       I mean, you're not fucking someone if they rape you.

   19. BMBrian Moses2:24

       No, no, 'cause it's not consensual rape.

   20. JRJoe Rogan2:26

       Ever. Yeah, so-

   21. BMBrian Moses2:26

       You're not giving it back.

   22. JRJoe Rogan2:27

       ... it doesn't make sense.

   23. BMBrian Moses2:28

       All right. Well, I think-

   24. JRJoe Rogan2:29

       I get it.

   25. BMBrian Moses2:29

       Yeah. (laughs) All right, I made a guess.

   26. JRJoe Rogan2:30

       I mean, I get what she's doing.

   27. BMBrian Moses2:32

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan2:32

       I get what she's saying.

   29. BMBrian Moses2:33

       It was just so hard, though.

   30. JRJoe Rogan2:34

       (laughs)
3. 3:15 – 4:21

   Progressive dogma, apologies, and the ‘trans kids’ culture war

   1. JRJoe Rogan3:15

      Do you know that they made Mario Lopez apologize-

   2. BMBrian Moses3:18

      For what?

   3. JRJoe Rogan3:18

      ... because he said that, "The babies shouldn't be trans."

   4. BMBrian Moses3:21

      Oh. (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan3:22

      And he said, "I'm s- my, my comments were ignorant and insensitive 'cause I wanna keep my job at E!"

   6. BMBrian Moses3:27

      Right, exactly.

   7. JRJoe Rogan3:28

      That's all it is.

   8. BMBrian Moses3:28

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan3:29

      He shoulda, he shoulda added that. He shoulda went, "dot, dot, dot, because I wanna keep my job at E!"

   10. BMBrian Moses3:32

       "Because I wanna keep my job." That's really all it is.

   11. JRJoe Rogan3:35

       Three-year-old trans babies, what the fuck? Some, uh, Blaire White, who's actually a trans woman, had a hilarious quote. She goes, uh, "Three-year-old trans kids are like vegan cats. We know who's making the lifestyle choices."

   12. BMBrian Moses3:48

       Oh, message. (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan3:50

       Boom. And she's trans.

   14. BMBrian Moses3:52

       Right. So she gets it.

   15. JRJoe Rogan3:53

       Which is hilarious.

   16. BMBrian Moses3:53

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan3:54

       Well, she can say it. She's free.

   18. GUGuest3:55

       Hey.

   19. JRJoe Rogan3:55

       Free like a bird.

   20. BMBrian Moses3:56

       I mean, what age?

   21. JRJoe Rogan3:58

       I- It ain't three. Should be in your 20s or something. You should be in your-

   22. BMBrian Moses4:01

       Like an adult.

   23. JRJoe Rogan4:02

       ... f- fucking adults.

   24. BMBrian Moses4:03

       A full-grown adult, right?

   25. JRJoe Rogan4:04

       Three-year-olds... What's the matter?

   26. GUGuest4:05

       The camera just cut off.

   27. JRJoe Rogan4:06

       The camera cut off? What?

   28. GUGuest4:08

       No.

   29. JRJoe Rogan4:08

       The fucking government. They don't want us talking about trans babies.

   30. BMBrian Moses4:11

       (laughs)
4. 4:21 – 9:30

   Race, identity, and ‘new racism’ vs. historical terror

   1. JRJoe Rogan4:21

      Oh, hi, everybody. Um, yeah, I mean, we live in the weirdest time in terms of like progressive ideology being a-

   2. BMBrian Moses4:28

      Right.

   3. JRJoe Rogan4:28

      ... dogma this year.

   4. BMBrian Moses4:29

      Gender's a construct, race is a construct, they're trying to bring it all down.

   5. JRJoe Rogan4:32

      (laughs) But n- race is not a construct because no one's been successfully transracial.

   6. BMBrian Moses4:36

      Oh, that's true.

   7. JRJoe Rogan4:37

      Never, never been pulled off even remotely, not even-

   8. BMBrian Moses4:40

      Eddie Murphy-

   9. JRJoe Rogan4:40

      ... not even close.

   10. BMBrian Moses4:40

       ... on SNL.

   11. JRJoe Rogan4:42

       Yeah, but you could go black to white, like C- Dave Chappelle used to do it all the time. Remember he's do the roadman-

   12. BMBrian Moses4:46

       Oh, right. Yeah. (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan4:47

       ... with the crazy wig? (laughs)

   14. BMBrian Moses4:50

       (laughs) Yeah, that was pretty good, too.

   15. JRJoe Rogan4:52

       You could, you could do black to-

   16. BMBrian Moses4:54

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan4:54

       ... white and nobody cares. You used to be able to do white to Asian. You can't even do that anymore.

   18. BMBrian Moses4:59

       Mm-mm.

   19. JRJoe Rogan4:59

       But you could do a-

   20. BMBrian Moses4:59

       So you can't do transracial.

   21. JRJoe Rogan5:00

       You could probably go Asian to white.

   22. BMBrian Moses5:02

       People are really holding onto this race thing.

   23. JRJoe Rogan5:04

       Hmm.

   24. BMBrian Moses5:04

       Like, why is that? Why do we hold on to it?

   25. JRJoe Rogan5:07

       I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Hmm.

   26. BMBrian Moses5:10

       I mean, 'cause I don't look at you as like... I don't even know, I don't even know what you are.

   27. JRJoe Rogan5:12

       (laughs)

   28. BMBrian Moses5:13

       (laughs) You're just a tank. You know what I mean?

   29. JRJoe Rogan5:15

       I'm, uh, mostly Italian, Irish, 1% Asian, 1.6% African.

   30. BMBrian Moses5:21

       See, and I don't even have that. I'm just like a nigga from America.
5. 9:30 – 12:46

   OJ Simpson’s Twitter: the surreal ‘voice of reason’ era

   1. JRJoe Rogan9:30

      (laughs) Did you see OJ's fucking Twitter? Have you been paying attention to OJ's Twitter?

   2. BMBrian Moses9:33

      No, I don't follow it, Joe.

   3. JRJoe Rogan9:35

      (screams)

   4. BMBrian Moses9:35

      I just said you can't follow OJ on Twitter. That's crazy.

   5. JRJoe Rogan9:38

      I follow him.

   6. BMBrian Moses9:38

      Do you?

   7. JRJoe Rogan9:39

      Fuck yeah.

   8. BMBrian Moses9:40

      Why?

   9. JRJoe Rogan9:40

      Because it's great.

   10. BMBrian Moses9:41

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan9:42

       Uh, Doug Stanhope and I, back in the day when we were hosting The Man Show, we had an idea for, uh, having OJ Simpson at the end of every show. OJ Simpson would be like, uh, Andy Rooney, and he would, like, break down the problems in America.

   12. BMBrian Moses9:55

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan9:55

       "Here's what I think about things. Hey, Twitter world." And so that's what he's doing. He's literally doing what Doug and I wanted him to do on The Man Show, but he's doing it all on his own. Like, he was talking about the debates. He goes, "Is it just me, or does Tulsi and Andrew Yang, are they the only ones that are following the rules? I'm just saying."

   14. BMBrian Moses10:15

       Following the rules, OJ? (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan10:16

       Let me see his hearing. Let me watch this play. Play it. Bring it back to the beginning. Give me some volume.

   16. NANarrator10:19

       Hey, Twitter world. Is it my imagination-

   17. JRJoe Rogan10:20

       Whoa, hold up. Go to the beginning of so I can hear, "Hey, Twitter world." That's my favorite part.

   18. NANarrator10:23

       Hey, Twitter world.

   19. BMBrian Moses10:24

       (laughs)

   20. NANarrator10:24

       Is it my imagination that Yang and Gabbard are the only two who know how to follow the rules of this debate? ... want them to become better citizens. That's the essence of what- I'm just saying.

   21. JRJoe Rogan10:40

       He's just saying.

   22. BMBrian Moses10:41

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan10:41

       Voice of reason.

   24. BMBrian Moses10:42

       But wait, he can't even vote.

   25. JRJoe Rogan10:43

       That's a catchphrase.

   26. BMBrian Moses10:43

       He's a convicted felon now, right?

   27. JRJoe Rogan10:45

       Uh, yeah.

   28. BMBrian Moses10:46

       So yeah. Like, OJ, why, why are you even involved? You can't even vote.

   29. JRJoe Rogan10:49

       Because he's ...

   30. NANarrator10:50

       Wants to know where everything's going.
6. 12:46 – 16:14

   The OJ verdict, Rodney King context, and the PCP rabbit hole

   1. JRJoe Rogan12:46

      Oh, my God. It was ... I was watching the, the verdict with my girlfriend at the time. We were sitting in front of the TV. And I'll never forget. When they said not guilty, my girlfriend put her hand on her face, went like ...

   2. BMBrian Moses12:57

      (gasps) No. No. No. That's crazy.

   3. JRJoe Rogan13:02

      She just couldn't believe it. She couldn't believe it, no.

   4. BMBrian Moses13:04

      Because I remember being like... I, I was like... It was either elementary school or it was middle school and I remember the verdict happening and it was, like, a split verdict. My teacher, who was white, she was, like, devastated. And, like, all the Black kids, it was like me and one other kid, we were (laughs) we were so happy. We were just like, "Yes." 'Cause we didn't know any better. You know what I mean?

   5. JRJoe Rogan13:18

      Right. Sure.

   6. BMBrian Moses13:18

      We were just like... We're just happy because a Black guy got off because of what happened to Rodney King. We're just like-

   7. JRJoe Rogan13:22

      Exactly.

   8. BMBrian Moses13:22

      "This is redemption."

   9. JRJoe Rogan13:23

      That's how many people felt about it. They felt like-

   10. BMBrian Moses13:27

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan13:27

       ... the Rodney King thing was so fucked up that... I mean, the, the problem with the Rodney King thing is you only see the end.

   12. BMBrian Moses13:34

       Mm-hmm.

   13. JRJoe Rogan13:34

       Apparently he led them on a crazy high-speed chase and there was fights and they-

   14. BMBrian Moses13:38

       Right.

   15. JRJoe Rogan13:38

       And he was big fella. And he was on PCP.

   16. BMBrian Moses13:40

       Yeah. So-

   17. JRJoe Rogan13:41

       So he was swinging for the fences.

   18. BMBrian Moses13:42

       Yeah. (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan13:43

       And so they had to beat him down, apparently, according to the cops. But then, you know-

   20. BMBrian Moses13:47

       Well, PCP, like, makes your bones stronger, doesn't it?

   21. JRJoe Rogan13:50

       No, um, it makes you really, like, impervious to pain though.

   22. BMBrian Moses13:54

       Okay.

   23. JRJoe Rogan13:54

       I had a friend who got his finger bitten off when he was on PCP.

   24. BMBrian Moses13:57

       And never... He didn't feel it-

   25. JRJoe Rogan13:59

       He-

   26. BMBrian Moses13:59

       ... until he woke up?

   27. JRJoe Rogan14:00

       I don't think he remembers 'cause he was so fucked up, but he was a boxer and he had his, uh, f- his toe removed, his, uh, not his p- not his pinky toe.

   28. BMBrian Moses14:09

       Mm-hmm.

   29. JRJoe Rogan14:09

       Or not his fat toe, the big toe, but the one next to it. And they put it where his index finger was on his right hand.

   30. BMBrian Moses14:14

       They moved his toe to his finger?
7. 16:14 – 20:27

   Chokeholds, fake black belts, and real murder cases

   1. BMBrian Moses16:14

      And the second case was a guy who, uh, like, actually choked a guy.

   2. JRJoe Rogan16:17

      Just with a rear naked choke-

   3. BMBrian Moses16:18

      No.

   4. JRJoe Rogan16:18

      ... he killed him? I know a dude who killed a guy with a choke.

   5. BMBrian Moses16:21

      In the ring?

   6. JRJoe Rogan16:22

      No. Killed him in a, in a gym. He was banging this guy's wife.

   7. BMBrian Moses16:25

      Oh, he really went for him?

   8. JRJoe Rogan16:26

      Yeah. It was crazy. He was banging the guy's wife and he invited the guy to his school and then choked him to death and killed him, and then was driving the guy's car around town.

   9. BMBrian Moses16:35

      (laughs) Dude, that's cold-blooded.

   10. JRJoe Rogan16:36

       And then they arrested him. Yeah, he was a interesting character. He was a fake Brazilian jiu jitsu black belt. My friend Eddie Bravo called him out.

   11. BMBrian Moses16:44

       Wait a minute. Fake?

   12. JRJoe Rogan16:46

       Yeah, yeah. He was fake. He was a fake black belt.

   13. BMBrian Moses16:48

       Okay.

   14. JRJoe Rogan16:48

       He was c- telling everybody he was a black belt. And Eddie rolled with him and I remember him coming back to me and he's like, "That guy is not a black belt." And I go, "What? Are you sure?" And he goes, "Dude, he don't know anything." Like, it was too crazy. It was like he barely... It was like a white belt.

   15. BMBrian Moses17:01

       You can killed doing shit like that.

   16. JRJoe Rogan17:02

       He was like, I thought maybe he was doing it because he was e- eh, maybe he was just being nice and wasn't going hard. And he goes, "But then as time goes on," so he's like, "This guy doesn't know what the fuck he's doing."

   17. BMBrian Moses17:11

       (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan17:11

       And so then he calls him up and, uh, and he was like, "Hey, are you a f- wh- are you a fucking black belt? Like, tell me you're bl-" And the guy's like, "Well, you know, I'm a black belt in Japanese jiu jitsu." He goes, "Stop, stop, stop, stop. Are you a fucking black belt?" And there's, like, this big pause. He's like, "Bro, you're a fucking liar. You're a liar." So Eddie separated himself from the guy and then years later, dude wound up murdering somebody.

   19. BMBrian Moses17:34

       Oh, sh- (laughs) What?

   20. JRJoe Rogan17:36

       Yeah, yeah.

   21. BMBrian Moses17:37

       With jiu jitsu?

   22. JRJoe Rogan17:38

       Yeah, he murdered a guy with jiu jitsu.

   23. BMBrian Moses17:40

       No, so he, he knew some-

   24. JRJoe Rogan17:41

       Just, just tried him, the guy. Well, you know, I could teach you how to put a choke in, in f- five seconds.

   25. BMBrian Moses17:45

       Yeah?

   26. JRJoe Rogan17:45

       Wouldn't take long at all. Yeah. I could teach you how to do it. Just wrap your forearm underneath someone's neck, clamp your hand to your bicep, put this arm behind their head, squeeze. You could kill somebody. It's not a hard thing to learn. But to actually apply it to someone who knows what they're doing-

   27. BMBrian Moses18:00

       Mm-hmm.

   28. JRJoe Rogan18:01

       ... you'd have to get... You'd have to be really good. Like, you can't just... No one's gonna let you choke them, but this guy didn't know anything, so I think he snuck up behind this guy who he killed and just choked him.

   29. BMBrian Moses18:09

       (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan18:09

       Choked him to death.
8. 20:27 – 24:11

   Psychopath vs. sociopath—and what comedy success does to people

   1. BMBrian Moses20:27

      Well, what's worth it, worse, a psycho or a sociopath?

   2. JRJoe Rogan20:29

      Mm-hmm. A sociopath is someone who doesn't care about someone. A psychopath, I think, is someone who violently attacks people. But in many ways, they're interchangeable. Like, let's, let's Google that. What is the difference between a sociopath and a psychopath? 'Cause I think a sociopath can have no violent tendencies-

   3. BMBrian Moses20:47

      (coughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan20:47

      ... but I think the idea is that they have no compassion for other people.

   5. BMBrian Moses20:50

      Right.

   6. JRJoe Rogan20:51

      Like, I have a friend and she thinks her sister's a sociopath.

   7. BMBrian Moses20:54

      Everybody thinks that everybody's a so- fucking sociopath these days.

   8. JRJoe Rogan20:57

      Hmm.

   9. BMBrian Moses20:57

      That's like a hot-

   10. JRJoe Rogan20:57

       Right.

   11. BMBrian Moses20:58

       That's, that's the hot word these days.

   12. JRJoe Rogan20:59

       It's like calling somebody a racist-

   13. BMBrian Moses21:00

       Right.

   14. JRJoe Rogan21:00

       ... or calling someone a Nazi.

   15. BMBrian Moses21:01

       Exactly. Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan21:03

       Mm-hmm.

   17. GUGuest21:04

       The quick thing I pulled up...

   18. BMBrian Moses21:05

       Well, put it up so we can read it.

   19. GUGuest21:05

       Yeah, you, well, you explained-

   20. BMBrian Moses21:06

       (clears throat)

   21. GUGuest21:07

       ... exactly what it said, but there's just, like, a Venn diagram that's-

   22. BMBrian Moses21:09

       Oh.

   23. GUGuest21:10

       It's-

   24. BMBrian Moses21:10

       That's-

   25. GUGuest21:10

       ... a better explanation.

   26. BMBrian Moses21:12

       By the way, every woman who's, you know, who's gonna hear this is gonna be like, "He is a sociopath."

   27. JRJoe Rogan21:15

       Oh, so there's something in the middle. There's like, he could be both. So, genetically predisposed.

   28. GUGuest21:20

       Why is it not working?

   29. JRJoe Rogan21:20

       (clears throat) A psychopath, genetically predisposed, lacks empathy and guilt.

   30. BMBrian Moses21:23

       So my, my parents would have to be psychopaths.
9. 24:11 – 27:36

   Open mics are packed now: podcasts, process-fandom, and Chappelle sightings

   1. JRJoe Rogan24:11

      Yeah, yeah. And the, no better way to see it than the goddamn open mic nights.

   2. BMBrian Moses24:15

      (laughs) Bruh.

   3. JRJoe Rogan24:17

      Whoo.

   4. BMBrian Moses24:17

      Oh.

   5. JRJoe Rogan24:18

      At the store. I don't, I can't go anymore. I used to be able to go and just watch, but now it's so fucking crazy. It's just, I can't, I can't.

   6. BMBrian Moses24:24

      Especially at the Comedy Store because now there's a crowd now, that... I mean, back when... I mean, I remember when I was, like, coming up, there was no crowd. It was just-

   7. JRJoe Rogan24:30

      Dude.

   8. BMBrian Moses24:30

      It was just your peers.

   9. JRJoe Rogan24:31

      Open mic nights are packed.

   10. BMBrian Moses24:32

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan24:33

       Packed.

   12. BMBrian Moses24:33

       Yeah, like with a real audience.

   13. JRJoe Rogan24:35

       Yes.

   14. BMBrian Moses24:35

       Yeah, like that's... You guys are, you guys are stealing.

   15. JRJoe Rogan24:38

       There's people that are f-... fans of comedy now that wanna see the process.

   16. BMBrian Moses24:43

       Really?

   17. JRJoe Rogan24:44

       Yeah, they do.

   18. BMBrian Moses24:44

       Is that what that is?

   19. JRJoe Rogan24:45

       Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of talk-

   20. BMBrian Moses24:47

       When did that change?

   21. JRJoe Rogan24:48

       (Coughing) Podcasts.

   22. BMBrian Moses24:49

       Oh, that makes sense.

   23. JRJoe Rogan24:51

       We started talking about it on podcasts and next thing you know, I think, over the last like six, seven years, you start to see people that are like, "I wanna know what it's like." What do they... 'Cause they love going to see like headliners, like if you-

   24. BMBrian Moses25:04

       Right.

   25. JRJoe Rogan25:04

       ... if you love going to see the fully finished product, you wanna see what it's like to see... It's almost like going to watch an amateur's fight. Like, "I'll keep an eye on him, maybe one day he'll be the champ."

   26. BMBrian Moses25:15

       I hear that, but then it's also, I mean, there's that, but I, I feel like with fighting, yeah, you can kind of see somebody's style here and there, but with comedy you see everybody's style. You're gonna see a, a young guy who's probably doing like a Dave Chappelle type of thing-

   27. JRJoe Rogan25:24

       Mm-hmm.

   28. BMBrian Moses25:24

       ... and a guy who's doing like doing a Jim Gaffigan type of thing, you know?

   29. JRJoe Rogan25:26

       Yeah.

   30. BMBrian Moses25:26

       A Joe Rogan kind of thing, you know?
10. 27:36 – 43:04

    AIDS panic then vs. now: tests, rumors, ‘bug chasers,’ and medical progress

    1. BMBrian Moses27:36

       There was a... You guys were scared of AIDS, this is the '90s, right?

    2. JRJoe Rogan27:38

       Oh, yeah.

    3. BMBrian Moses27:39

       So yeah, so AIDS was big, you couldn't really fuck anybody.

    4. JRJoe Rogan27:41

       Dude, the first time I got an AIDS test I was so nervous.

    5. BMBrian Moses27:43

       Really?

    6. JRJoe Rogan27:44

       Oh, yeah. I just was a slideshow of every bad decision I'd ever made. Every time I never wore a condom it's just going through my head. (imitating static) 'Cause everybody was convinced, there was a... It was funny because at the same time Kinison had a bit.

    7. BMBrian Moses27:56

       Mm-hmm.

    8. JRJoe Rogan27:57

       Where he goes like, "They say, Sam, they say AIDS is a communicable disease. Straight people can get it too." He goes, "Name one!"

    9. BMBrian Moses28:04

       (laughs)

    10. JRJoe Rogan28:04

        "Name one fucking guy! Fuck you, it's not our dance!"

    11. BMBrian Moses28:09

        (laughs)

    12. JRJoe Rogan28:11

        And people were so-

    13. BMBrian Moses28:11

        Did anybody know?

    14. JRJoe Rogan28:12

        People were so mad. Well, nobody I know.

    15. BMBrian Moses28:14

        Yeah.

    16. JRJoe Rogan28:15

        But I was just-

    17. BMBrian Moses28:15

        (clearing throat)

    18. JRJoe Rogan28:15

        ... you know, we... When it happened, I remember in my car dr- I was living in Boston, in my car driving and I was listening to the radio. And Magic Johnson had a press conference to announce that he had HIV, and it was like a scene in a zombie movie where the first person got bit and I was like, "Oh, my god."

    19. BMBrian Moses28:33

        Yeah.

    20. JRJoe Rogan28:34

        "It's happening. Holy shit. I'm like, Magic Johnson with all his money? That guy's got HIV?"

    21. BMBrian Moses28:42

        Yeah.

    22. JRJoe Rogan28:42

        "Oh my god, we're fucked. We're fucked." I remember thinking that. And then, uh, it was probably like a year or two later I got, I got an AIDS test.

    23. BMBrian Moses28:51

        (laughs) After Magic got it two years later. (laughs)

    24. JRJoe Rogan28:54

        Well, I didn't have any money.

    25. BMBrian Moses28:55

        I think he did actually. Correct.

    26. JRJoe Rogan28:56

        I couldn't have got... I mean, I didn't have health insurance.

    27. BMBrian Moses28:57

        I forgot there was, like they cost money back then.

    28. JRJoe Rogan28:59

        Oh, yeah. Yeah.

    29. BMBrian Moses29:00

        Okay, 'cause now they're just free.

    30. JRJoe Rogan29:02

        Yeah. Well, now they want people to not get AIDS.
11. 43:04 – 56:57

    Reparations, infrastructure, and incentivizing parenting/education (vs punishment)

    1. BMBrian Moses43:04

       See, which is ... That makes sense. And that's also why I say, like, I'm not real big into the reparations talk for Black people. I mean, I don't really know the ins and outs of it. People keep saying, like, "We need it."

    2. JRJoe Rogan43:13

       Get ready for Twitter hate.

    3. BMBrian Moses43:14

       I'm saying this. I'm saying how about-

    4. JRJoe Rogan43:16

       The new white k-

    5. BMBrian Moses43:17

       How, how about we incentivize parenting?

    6. JRJoe Rogan43:19

       Mm. But can you do that? (clears throat)

    7. BMBrian Moses43:21

       Let's keep ... If- if you're watching your kids instead of, like, they're just out there ... 'Cause I mean, like, let's say ... Is- is reparations talk about, I don't know, infrastructure in Black communities?

    8. JRJoe Rogan43:30

       Yes.

    9. BMBrian Moses43:30

       And if that's the case, well then let's incentivize keeping the parents there, keeping the parents together. Or, if they're split up, it's just like, if you guys are teaching your kid and he, you know, he's in school every day or he survives, you know, eight years without a school shooting, every family gets like, you know, a big bonus. You know? Or if-

    10. JRJoe Rogan43:46

        Hmm.

    11. BMBrian Moses43:46

        ... if he makes the honor roll, you know, like, you guys get this. It's like, you'd really be investing in your investments. Like, it take ... They say it takes 18 years to make back on your investment of your child. If you're, if you're incentivizing them to go to school for education, it's gonna make better people and a better society.

    12. JRJoe Rogan43:59

        Th- that seems good on paper. Now, if you're saying incentivize-

    13. BMBrian Moses44:02

        Yeah.

    14. JRJoe Rogan44:02

        ... like how would you incentivize them?

    15. BMBrian Moses44:03

        Right, I'm saying like, all right-

    16. JRJoe Rogan44:04

        It's always good ... It's a good ... It's always good-

    17. BMBrian Moses44:06

        Yeah.

    18. JRJoe Rogan44:06

        ... to encourage people to be successful.

    19. BMBrian Moses44:08

        Okay.

    20. JRJoe Rogan44:08

        But how would you-

    21. BMBrian Moses44:08

        So, your kid tests well on some of these, like, aptitude tests, right?

    22. JRJoe Rogan44:11

        Right.

    23. BMBrian Moses44:12

        Then you get a stipend or something like that. I mean, it's like-

    24. JRJoe Rogan44:14

        Mm-hmm.

    25. BMBrian Moses44:14

        What- what- what are these reparations we're talking about exactly? 'Cause exactly, I don't really know the ins and outs of it, but if it's about infrastructure of Black communities, I'm so into it, but it's also, let's incentivize keep- and you know, uh, being in the child's life.

    26. JRJoe Rogan44:24

        That's a-

    27. BMBrian Moses44:24

        Because for a lot of the- for a lot of the reason these kids are ... Like they're- they're depressed and they feel like they have a chip on their shoulder because nobody's home watching them, and they go to these gangs and they go to, you know, these other things, right?

    28. JRJoe Rogan44:33

        Right.

    29. BMBrian Moses44:33

        It's because they're just not being watched.

    30. JRJoe Rogan44:35

        Right, but what I think the idea behind reparations is that some people at one point in time were profiting off of slavery. Those people have used that money, and that money has become a part of really large businesses, many, many large businesses.
12. 56:57 – 1:07:45

    Florida madness: Epstein talk becomes an alligator documentary (while high)

    1. GUGuest56:57

       There's stuff going on at Ohio State with the Epstein shit. They've invested a lot of money at Ohio State and they're trying to figure out if they need to give it back or not. It's just-

    2. JRJoe Rogan57:04

       Oh.

    3. BMBrian Moses57:04

       Oh, did he go to Ohio State?

    4. GUGuest57:05

       He didn't, but he's involved in Columbus business. And so they've-

    5. BMBrian Moses57:08

       Ooh.

    6. GUGuest57:08

       ... given a lot of money to this football team, and-

    7. JRJoe Rogan57:10

       Have they determined that his, um, that his money... Like, how his money was made?

    8. BMBrian Moses57:15

       Through sex trafficking?

    9. GUGuest57:17

       Oh, yeah. Like Epstein's money?

    10. BMBrian Moses57:19

        Yeah.

    11. GUGuest57:19

        I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I know he was managing that one guy's money, but-

    12. BMBrian Moses57:22

        I mean, how much from sex trafficking? 'Cause that, that would ma- that would make him a plantation owner. Like-

    13. JRJoe Rogan57:27

        (burps) Dude.

    14. BMBrian Moses57:27

        ... in a sense, right? Because he's, like, he's giving out flesh. He's ge- he's getting paid for flesh.

    15. JRJoe Rogan57:32

        Mm. What was his, his... Al- allegedly what he did was he would find young girls.

    16. BMBrian Moses57:37

        Yeah.

    17. JRJoe Rogan57:37

        And get them to give him massages.

    18. BMBrian Moses57:39

        And they'd be like, "You guys should, you know-"

    19. JRJoe Rogan57:41

        Yeah.

    20. BMBrian Moses57:42

        ... get in my tribe." Yeah.

    21. GUGuest57:45

        (sighs)

    22. BMBrian Moses57:45

        (laughs)

    23. JRJoe Rogan57:45

        The prosecutor had a real creep-

    24. BMBrian Moses57:46

        Like how mad you are, yeah.

    25. JRJoe Rogan57:47

        The prosecutor had a real creepy way of describing it too. He said that he, he thought it was impossible for him to control, that his, his impulses were impossible for him to control, and he was a great flight risk. So they didn't want him to have, um... See if that's true.

    26. BMBrian Moses58:01

        So his therapist was saying this?

    27. JRJoe Rogan58:03

        See if that's true.

    28. BMBrian Moses58:03

        So they're trying to protect him, but it's also like, are they trying to cure him?

    29. JRJoe Rogan58:06

        I think th- see if that quote is true 'cause, uh, I'm pretty high right now.

    30. GUGuest58:08

        Say it again.

Episode duration: 3:13:15