Joe Rogan Experience #1339 - Everlast

Joe Rogan 0:03 What is that thing you say when you clink glasses? So-

Everlast 0:06 Slainte is like the Irish, you know, salute. Or, or, you know, na zdravie. It's just the Irish version, slainte.

Joe Rogan 0:12 Ha. Slainte?

Everlast 0:12 Slainte.

Joe Rogan 0:13 Slainte.

Everlast 0:13 Yeah, like-

Joe Rogan 0:13 Slainte.

Everlast 0:14 ... S-L-A-I-N-T-E, I believe is how it's spelled name.

Joe Rogan 0:18 Oh.

Everlast 0:18 Slainte.

Joe Rogan 0:19 Ooh. I never knew that. You've said it before and I always just let it slide, 'cause I didn't want to seem like a dork.

Everlast 0:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:25 (laughs) You know? It's one of those things where-

Everlast 0:26 I'm probably saying it real bu-... I mean, like, you know-

Joe Rogan 0:28 It is.

Everlast 0:28 ... Gaelic is some real harsh-

Joe Rogan 0:30 Yes. It is.

Everlast 0:31 ... like, uh, vowels and- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:33 Gaelic's crazy.

Everlast 0:34 And it's, it's a crazy ass... Like, I've seen Gaelic names that, like, were spelt insane and it was, "Oh, that's pronounced Sean." (laughs) You know what I mean? Like some crazy shit like that.

Joe Rogan 0:43 That's a wild ancient language, right?

Everlast 0:45 Yeah, for real though.

Joe Rogan 0:46 I love Irish people, man. I just f- I'm fucking fascinated by the wildness of that culture.

Everlast 0:53 Yeah. Well, that's-

Joe Rogan 0:53 You know, that's like-

Everlast 0:53 ... that's why God made whiskey, you know-

Joe Rogan 0:55 100%.

Everlast 0:55 ... so the Irish would, so the Irish would never rule the world.

Joe Rogan 0:58 Dude. When you see a guy like, a guy like Conor McGregor, that pa- part of what is him is Irish. He's like a pure, like, brilliant Irish. You know what I'm talking about?

Everlast 1:09 For sure.

Joe Rogan 1:10 Mm-hmm.

Everlast 1:10 All the way.

Joe Rogan 1:10 Boastful, bad motherfucker-

Everlast 1:12 Full throttle.

Joe Rogan 1:12 ... knows how to take a loss, knows how to take a loss. Takes a loss like a man and still talks shit, you know?

Everlast 1:18 Come right back tomorrow. It's, it's like that, you know, that, that guy that you, you fight but he loses but you know you're gonna have to fight him tomorrow.

Joe Rogan 1:26 Yes. Yes.

Everlast 1:26 Or as soon as his-

Joe Rogan 1:27 Yes.

Everlast 1:27 ... shit is healed up and the busted up-ness is gone.

Joe Rogan 1:31 Mm-hmm. He's got like $100 million in the bank and he still wants to fight people. Still smacking people at bars.

Everlast 1:36 Yeah, that's, that's, it's ...

Joe Rogan 1:40 (laughs) What is he doing? (laughs)

Everlast 1:41 It's, it's hard. It's hard.

Joe Rogan 1:42 What is he doing? Don't do that.

Everlast 1:42 You, you gotta kind of be like, ah.

Joe Rogan 1:44 Don't do that.

Everlast 1:45 Nah, not that.

Joe Rogan 1:46 Who knows what the fuck the guy said to him, but it looked like the guy was old as fuck. Someone said he was only 50, that the guy was only 50.

Everlast 1:54 Dude didn't fold up though, he just kind of sat at the bar.

Joe Rogan 1:57 Eh, Conor didn't really hit him. Just touched him.

Everlast 1:58 Yeah, he smacked him. He gave him the smack in the back of the head.

Joe Rogan 2:00 Gave him a couple of fingers, you know. He touched him.

Everlast 2:03 He did what we call mushed him.

Joe Rogan 2:04 Yes.

Everlast 2:04 He mushed him.

Joe Rogan 2:05 Yes.

Everlast 2:06 You know, like... It can kind of be interpreted as hitting, but it, it really qu-... ain't quite a hit.

Joe Rogan 2:10 Yeah, when you're a guy like that, you're basically walking around agreeing not to fuck people up, because y- you have to kind of agree to not fuck people up.

Everlast 2:17 The money he's got, there should be like five guys around him that make sure that never happens.

Joe Rogan 2:21 That's, yeah, but they can't listen to him. Like, i- i- the, the... If, if you have a guy like him, he's gonna do whatever he wants, even if there's a bunch of people around him stopping him. You're not gonna stop him from doing shit.

Everlast 2:32 Facts. That's true.

Joe Rogan 2:32 Th- when he threw that guy's phone down on the ground, stomped it, in Miami. There was all the bodyguards there. He just did it. He just did it. He's Conor McGregor.

Everlast 2:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:40 He's fucking li-... Look, you, he's living like you're supposed to live if you're Conor McGregor.

Everlast 2:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:44 The dance is don't go to jail, dude. Don't get locked up.

Everlast 2:47 And it's also the, the, the, the whole structure of the way things are now as far as, like, entertainment. It's like-

Joe Rogan 2:53 Yes.

Everlast 2:54 ... uh, it's all about eyeballs.

Joe Rogan 2:55 Well, he fucking figured it out, man.

Everlast 2:58 Yeah, he's pulling eyeballs. (laughs) You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 3:00 He figured it out. He figured it out, man, like in the most crazy way possible. He figured out how to just blow up the whole system. When you're, when you're a guy who has been fight-... I mean, I contacted him on Twitter in like 2013, right? By 2018 he's worth $100 million.

Everlast 3:21 Yeah, so quick, quick...

Joe Rogan 3:22 (laughs)

Everlast 3:23 And he called it all the way.

Joe Rogan 3:25 That's crazy.

Everlast 3:25 And he called it all the way.

Joe Rogan 3:27 It's crazy.

Everlast 3:27 That's the craziest part, is-

Joe Rogan 3:28 Crazy, dude.

Everlast 3:29 ... how lo-... he called it all the way. Like, "I'm gonna be g- you know, a billionaire, a multimillionaire."

Joe Rogan 3:34 You know what Dana White said to me once about him that's dead on? He said he eats pressure. He said that guy eats pressure. He just eats it. He goes, he just, he just goes in there and the m- the more pressure he experiences, the better he can perform. It's true. It's like you look at the Aldo fight, it's p- picture perfect. Left hand knockout. I mean, it doesn't get any prettier. The timing, the setup, the patience, the movement, the, the setting it up, looking for him to leap in and blang! Catching him when he's coming in.

Everlast 3:59 I'm pretty sure he said exactly those, that's exactly what he said-

Joe Rogan 4:02 Fuck yeah.

Everlast 4:02 ... he was gonna do right before the fight too.

Joe Rogan 4:03 Oh, that's me tweeting him in January of 2013. I saw his fight in, I think it was Cage Warriors. I think that's the, uh, promotion. Cage Wars or Cage Warriors? I think it's... Why am I fucking that up? Cage Wars. Cage Wars? I think it was both. Is it two different ones? There probably is. It's probably a bunch of Cage stuff. But it, either way, he was, uh, fucking people up overseas and I was like, "This kid's for real." You just see something sometimes. You see, it's like I watch a video, I'll see how a guy moves, I'm like, "Jesus." Some guys just have something and he had just ridiculous timing, man.

Everlast 4:42 Yeah. It was-

Joe Rogan 4:43 So relaxed in there.

Everlast 4:44 No, those were fun fights, man. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:46 His early days of MMA was like, you, you can go back and watch him and you go, "Oh, this guy's gonna be special." He's got like a weird sense of timing, you know? It's like he's just very good at understanding where you're at and knowing how to put it on you.

Everlast 4:58 He just had me winning, you know, the Ire-... you know, the whole Irish thing, that's it.

Joe Rogan 5:01 Oh, for sure, man. We built this city- Every Irish person-

Everlast 5:04 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:04 Dude.

Everlast 5:05 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:05 Dude.

Everlast 5:06 I love it. I love it.

Joe Rogan 5:07 Yeah, when he was like, "We all fight together." Like, whew. The, the... When he's in the room, like if he wins a fight and there's, uh, you know, the crowd's filled with like 7,000 Irish people, dude, you feel it. Like, you feel like goosebumps. It's crazy. Like, you do everything you can to stop just to keep yourself from crying at the beauty of it. This guy is standing there in front of thousands of people that have flown overseas to see him fight.

Everlast 5:30 Yeah, it's insane how many people fly over for it.

Joe Rogan 5:31 Dude. Yeah. It's crazy. They take over the fucking Vegas hotels. Take over. Like where you have seas of them-

Everlast 5:38 Didn't they shut down like 7th Avenue?

Joe Rogan 5:40 ... singing songs.

Everlast 5:40 In front of, in front of Madison Square Garden. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:42 Yeah, I mean, there's not a fucking fan on Earth like Irish fans. They're different. I used to think Brazilian fans were crazy until I saw the Irish fans. They take over. The whole Mandalay Bay was taken over by people singing. It was all Irish people.

Everlast 5:57 And doing a fair amount of drinking.

Joe Rogan 5:58 Oh, fair. More than fair.... but just the fact that they can do that, that they can g- gang- get together-

Everlast 6:07 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 6:07 ... and sing the same song, like thousands of them together, singing the same song.

Everlast 6:11 I remember the first time, uh, when we went to Ireland, it was House Of Pain. And, uh, in between songs, they broke into the whole, you know, all the soccer chant stuff. They're like, "Oh, ah, ah."

Joe Rogan 6:22 Wow.

Everlast 6:22 And we were just like, "Whoa, this is crazy." You know, we'd never experienced anything like that. They don't, they had-

Joe Rogan 6:27 Psh.

Everlast 6:27 They don't do that at the sports events at home back then, not back then at all.

Joe Rogan 6:31 (sniffs) Wow.

Everlast 6:32 So that was amazing.

Joe Rogan 6:33 Wow.

Everlast 6:33 Culturally, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's that soccer-

Joe Rogan 6:36 They have to have-

Everlast 6:37 ... shit is real.

Joe Rogan 6:38 ... Conor fight in Ireland once. He's gotta fight in Dublin in a soccer stadium. Fuck yeah, right?

Everlast 6:46 Why not?

Joe Rogan 6:47 Why not?

Everlast 6:48 Why not?

Joe Rogan 6:48 If he's ever gonna fight again-

Everlast 6:50 One more time.

Joe Rogan 6:50 ... that's where they should do it. I don't, you know, the (smacks lips) I think the i- the idea was that it's like more money in pay-per-view if you fight in Vegas. You know, in Vegas it's worth a lot of money.

Everlast 6:59 But doesn't the time have a lot to do with it, too?

Joe Rogan 7:01 (sighs) Yeah, yeah.

Everlast 7:01 When they do it on the European thing-

Joe Rogan 7:02 Mm-hmm.

Everlast 7:02 ... they gotta do the whole weird time thing over there so they can accommodate-

Joe Rogan 7:06 Yeah.

Everlast 7:06 ... the pay-per-view here.

Joe Rogan 7:07 Yeah, it'd be real weird. They'd be fighting at, like, 4:00 in the morning or some shit.

Everlast 7:09 It's always real weird to me when I wake up and there's like a, a, a, a South American fight-

Joe Rogan 7:13 Mm-hmm.

Everlast 7:13 ... that happened at noon, and I'm like, "Oh, f-"

Joe Rogan 7:15 Yeah.

Everlast 7:15 "... fuck, I missed." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:16 Or Japan, like RIZIN. If you're trying to watch RIZON, they, they have it in, uh, Japanese time. That's how Pride used to be. We would get up at, like we would have guys, uh, come over my house and we would watch Pride at like 3:00 in the morning. Like sometimes they would have 'em live for some reason. If I'm remembering it correctly, sometimes they would have 'em live and sometimes they would have the fights and you knew what happened, but you didn't get to see it for like a couple of weeks. They would delay it in North America for some strange reason.

Everlast 7:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:44 They didn't, didn't, didn't totally do it live.

Everlast 7:48 I was hip to that MMAShare thing a long time ago. They always had the bootleg videos and the tit-

Joe Rogan 7:54 Don't tell anybody. That's like Voldemort. Don't say that.

Everlast 7:56 No. Did I, did I just mess up? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:58 I don't know, man. People get mad-

Everlast 8:00 I thought it was gone anyways. That was-

Joe Rogan 8:01 Streams.

Everlast 8:01 ... 10 years ago, dude. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 8:03 Illegal streams.

Everlast 8:04 Yeah, yo, the funny thing is, dudes-

Joe Rogan 8:06 Streams.

Everlast 8:06 Dude, UFC is gangsters with that. Like it used to be-

Joe Rogan 8:11 Yeah.

Everlast 8:11 ... you could watch those. And then, uh, over time, you would ... 'Cause like in Europe before like there was things like fight pass and thing like that, you couldn't find a pay-per-view if you were stuck over there 4:00 in the morning in the middle-

Joe Rogan 8:20 Mm-hmm.

Everlast 8:20 ... of somewhere. So you would lean on whatever you could as a fan and ... But they, they start- you started seeing them (snaps fingers) shutting 'em down. Like it doesn't-

Joe Rogan 8:29 Mm-hmm.

Everlast 8:29 They're, they're gangsters. The UFC are gangsters.

Joe Rogan 8:32 Yeah, it's a, it's a big money business. People fucking beat people up.

Everlast 8:36 It's impressive-

Joe Rogan 8:37 (laughs)

Everlast 8:37 ... is what it is. It's impressive. It's like-

Joe Rogan 8:39 It is impressive.

Everlast 8:39 There's like a, there's a army of motherfuckers-

Joe Rogan 8:42 Yeah.

Everlast 8:42 ... somewhere going, "Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah."

Joe Rogan 8:43 Still some of it must get through, right? Just every- the internet just has stuff that gets through.

Everlast 8:48 I don't know. I'm, I got the fight pass now, so everywhere I go it's-

Joe Rogan 8:51 Mm-hmm.

Everlast 8:51 I got the fight pass and the little, you have that little, um, static IP address, so like when you are out the country, you can st- it's per- that's perfectly normal.

Joe Rogan 8:58 You know what's weird? Why aren't they showing ... Why ... Like I need to ask the UFC this. Why don't they show like the high- like the knockouts on their Instagram page? They show when the knockout's over.

Everlast 9:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:11 Have you noticed that?

Everlast 9:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:12 I do not understand.

Everlast 9:13 I don't know.

Joe Rogan 9:14 I don't understand what's happening.

Everlast 9:14 Because once everybody knows, they know.

Joe Rogan 9:16 Everybody knows they know. It's not hurting anybody to watch it. Like it'll just hype up-

Everlast 9:21 I don't know.

Joe Rogan 9:21 ... the fight.

Everlast 9:22 Is replay business a lot of business? I wonder what the replay buys are, like the cats who just missed it and bought the replay. Maybe that factors in.

Joe Rogan 9:29 I'm sure. I'm sure.

Everlast 9:29 They probably make a nice second round of money on that replay.

Joe Rogan 9:32 Right. Like so how long do you think they should hold off? For like a week?

Everlast 9:36 A day or two maybe? Yeah, a week, tops.

Joe Rogan 9:37 A week.

Everlast 9:38 Top.

Joe Rogan 9:38 A week, and then put the highlights on.

Everlast 9:40 For sure.

Joe Rogan 9:40 Do they do that? Do they ever show ... I get this weird impression that they only show like right after the finish.

Everlast 9:46 Well, like on- They still do replays? ... on the Instagram now, no. They have, they'll show entire fights on Instagram now, but old fights.

Joe Rogan 9:51 Oh, right.

Everlast 9:51 Like old fights.

Joe Rogan 9:52 Old fights.

Everlast 9:52 Old fights, yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:52 Old fights.

Everlast 9:53 So like-

Joe Rogan 9:53 But I'm pretty sure they showed Stipe just pulling off of DC. Was that the case? That was a crazy-

Everlast 9:59 Yeah, I got ... My whole phone got blown up 'cause apparently I'm right in the background (laughs) when that happens.

Joe Rogan 10:03 Oh, no.

Everlast 10:04 Like, "Oh, yeah." Like ... Just kept going.

Joe Rogan 10:05 (laughs)

Everlast 10:05 I don't know. I haven't seen it, but-

Joe Rogan 10:07 Oh, my God.

Everlast 10:07 ... like I, my phone blew up right then.

Joe Rogan 10:09 Dude, that was ... That fight was chaos. That one fight was chaos.

Everlast 10:11 That was fun.

Joe Rogan 10:12 It was.

Everlast 10:12 I had a amazing time.

Joe Rogan 10:13 That card I should say, that car- fight card was chaos. Yeah, there was a wild one, man, in, uh, Anaheim. It was hard watching DC get hit with those fucking body shots. Oof.

Everlast 10:23 Yeah, th- that was ... Dude, as soon as he'd started-

Joe Rogan 10:26 Ooh.

Everlast 10:26 ... taking that in, it was like, "Oh, wow, something's happening."

Joe Rogan 10:28 Dude, Stipe's nasty. He wanted that belt back.

Everlast 10:31 The shots he took.

Joe Rogan 10:32 Incredible.

Everlast 10:33 You know, we were talking about Yoel.

Joe Rogan 10:34 Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Everlast 10:35 The shots Stipe took and just-

Joe Rogan 10:36 Yeah.

Everlast 10:36 ... walked through him, like ...

Joe Rogan 10:37 Well, it was crazy because DC managed to put him away with one punch the first time, and so-

Everlast 10:42 That he didn't see coming.

Joe Rogan 10:43 Yeah.

Everlast 10:43 He didn't see it coming.

Joe Rogan 10:44 He didn't see it coming. Yeah.

Everlast 10:44 Everything he got hit with was hard as hell-

Joe Rogan 10:47 Mm-hmm.

Everlast 10:47 ... but he saw it all coming.

Joe Rogan 10:48 Yep, that's-

Everlast 10:48 And he didn't let him get in that little right in his chest there wh- 'cause that's ... He got that short one on him that last time.

Joe Rogan 10:54 That's exactly what happens if you're not prepared. If you don't think you're gonna get punched and you relax for a minute and then you get punched by something you don't see coming, you can get fucked up. And, um, when you're in a, a fight with a Greco-Roman wrestler with the caliber of DC who knows how to manipulate you and ... He just mani- manipulated him perfectly into that right hand. I mean, it was a beautiful work of art. But he was never able to hit him like that in the second fight like as cleanly and have that kind of an effect. The shots he hit him with were pretty good shots, but Stipe ate 'em. And then you realize, oh, Stipe can take a fucking shot. He just got clipped.

Everlast 11:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:27 He just got caught.

Everlast 11:28 True.

Joe Rogan 11:28 He can take a fucking shot. And he was there in the fourth round, which is really impressive. Like in the fourth round, he was looking good.

Everlast 11:35 He recognizes as soon as he touched that-

Joe Rogan 11:37 Mm-hmm.

Everlast 11:37 ... that liver shot that it was ...

Joe Rogan 11:39 Yep.

Everlast 11:39 Oh wow-

Joe Rogan 11:40 It's a problem.

Everlast 11:40 ... something happened there, and it hit him ... He dug-

Joe Rogan 11:42 Yeah.

Everlast 11:42 ... in like four or five straight times.

Joe Rogan 11:44 Dude.

Everlast 11:44 Man.

Joe Rogan 11:44 You cannot let a guy like that punch you in the liver that many times. I'm sure DC obviously didn't want him to do that, but that's how good Stipe is. It was a-

Everlast 11:51 Respect to DC, though, man.

Joe Rogan 11:52 Yeah.

Everlast 11:53 All respect.

Joe Rogan 11:53 Respect to DC. I love that guy.

Everlast 11:55 That was a, that was a great fight.

Joe Rogan 11:55 He's, he's one of my favorite people to do commentary with, man, for sure. He's, he's the best. He's so fun.He's hilarious. Like, when Th- when Rose Namajunas, uh, kno- knocked out, uh, Jan JanJíček-

Everlast 12:08 Yeah, I remember.

Joe Rogan 12:08 ... he's like, "Thug Rose!"

Everlast 12:10 I was a Thug Rose. I was watching, yeah, that was amazing.

Joe Rogan 12:11 Thug Rose! I'll never forget that. Like, that is what I love. Like, he's-

Everlast 12:14 Those are forever moments, you know?

Joe Rogan 12:15 ... he's so free. He's so free that in the middle of, like, this cra- we're calling a world title fight, he's just DC. He can be himself. And it's, uh... He's got a great personality, man. And he's in a, a hell of a fighter and he was dominating in the first round.

Everlast 12:28 But you think he's gonna... He, he, he gonna, he gonna, he gonna fight again probably.

Joe Rogan 12:31 I think he's gonna wanna fight Stipe again if I guess, if I really guess. I mean, if he wants to do it again, he's gonna wanna fight Stipe again 'cause he's gonna want to... What, I think the way he described it is right that wrong. That he did, he just, he didn't fight well. He, he didn't listen to his corner. Um, I think that's what he thinks. Um, it's like, he fought really well in the first round and then, uh, Bob Cook was yelling at him in the second round, "Keep your damn hands up." You know, and he, he was like walking him down, like almost like disdainfully. Like, walking him down. And I don't know if that was part of his strategy to psychologically put a lot of pressure on Stipe, you know, to try to establish that Stipe's done, that he's the champ now. But it was almost like disdainful. But Stipe survived, so... And he just was there, and he was there in really good shape in rounds three and rounds four. That was what was really impressive about it.

Everlast 13:20 Yeah. I was, I was amazed.

Joe Rogan 13:21 Especially after getting fucked up qui- quite a bit in that first round.

Everlast 13:25 I mean, I-

Joe Rogan 13:26 You know?

Everlast 13:26 There was a couple times where I thought he was gonna be fin- like, like, dude was gonna get him, Cormier.

Joe Rogan 13:30 Yeah, DC, DC was all over him in that first round. And when he, when he picked him up and dumped him, you're like, "Jesus Christ, DC's good."

Everlast 13:35 Yeah, it was-

Joe Rogan 13:36 "Jesus Christ, he's good." He just didn't maintain it, that's exactly what it was, and then Stipe made the adjustment. And, um, you know, who the fuck knows? He might decide, "You know what? My body doesn't wanna do this anymore. I'm done." I know he made a ton of money and I know he's really good as a commentator, and he'll, he'll do that forever.

Everlast 13:53 For sure.

Joe Rogan 13:54 Or he might don't wanna do it one more time. But then there's always Jon Jones ru- lurking, man. Jon J- I mean, I feel like everybody knows, like, that's the biggest rivalry in MMA. Isn't it? Isn't it?

Everlast 14:08 Yeah, bec- I mean, the, the only thing you... Like, if, if, if you're gonna talk about accolades of, of Cormier's, he has everything, all those championships, but there's that little asterisk-

Joe Rogan 14:18 Yeah.

Everlast 14:18 ... on the, on the light heavyweight belt that he never really got it from, from Jon.

Joe Rogan 14:23 Right, right. But that's the weird part about it, right? Is like, when you're a champion, but the champion who's the real champion didn't lose it and then they have an interim champ, like, what are we doing here? What did, what has happ-... Is he got in there to get in a fight again?

Everlast 14:32 Now, had Jon never come back and, and, and shown that he's-

Joe Rogan 14:35 Right.

Everlast 14:35 ... he's still him, like, and hopefully, God willing for him, keeping all his, his stuff together and his-

Joe Rogan 14:40 Yeah.

Everlast 14:41 It would've been different. If he just kinda faded in the distance, then, then it changes that narrative.

Joe Rogan 14:46 Yeah.

Everlast 14:46 But he came back and it's, and he, uh, his original thing was like, "You ain't that guy. I'm that guy still."

Joe Rogan 14:53 Yeah, it was crazy... I mean, J- that's how crazy good Jon is. Really, that's how crazy good Jon is. And-

Everlast 14:58 I'd love to see that, though.

Joe Rogan 14:59 And the way DC was able to beat Rumble twice. Rumble, to me, was always the scariest guy.

Everlast 15:04 That's my dude, by the way. That's my, that's my dude. Rumble's the scariest guy. That's my dude.

Joe Rogan 15:07 He's so ferocious. His punching is so fucking explosive, man. He's just got so much power. When he knocked out Glover Teixeira with one punch, I was like, "God!" Like, who the fuck is like that?

Everlast 15:18 When I first met him, he was-

Joe Rogan 15:20 Who the fuck hits like that?

Everlast 15:20 ... he was a much smaller dude. You know?

Joe Rogan 15:22 When he was probably 170.

Everlast 15:23 Yeah, yeah. He had, he used to work out with some friends of mine that used to work out in this, uh, little MMA gym that was off Melrose and, and La Brea. I think it was called LA MMA at the time or something like that, and he... Before he wound up in Colorado, I think.

Joe Rogan 15:35 Dude.

Everlast 15:35 You know? But, you know, I- I've known that dude a while, man.

Joe Rogan 15:38 He's so-

Everlast 15:38 That's a good dude, man.

Joe Rogan 15:39 ... ridiculously powerful. He's a really nice guy.

Everlast 15:41 Yeah, he's good too.

Joe Rogan 15:41 His fucking power is preposterous though. Like... But it was, he's also-

Everlast 15:45 And then when I seen him come back in, in the 205, that's what I was l-

Joe Rogan 15:48 Yeah.

Everlast 15:49 Blew my mind. I was like, "Not that fast."

Joe Rogan 15:50 Just flatlining people at 205. But it was interesting, man. His, his re- his retirement was like one of the most honest and like, uh, f- it was like he was like happy with it 'cause he was like, "Man, I'm not a fighter. I'm an athlete. I just, I'm just good at this." I was like, "Wow, that's really... That's, that's interesting." Interesting way to look at it.

Everlast 16:10 I think he grows weed now and, and raises dogs.

Joe Rogan 16:12 (laughs) It's amazing.

Everlast 16:12 And like breeds French Bulldogs.

Joe Rogan 16:14 Good for him.

Everlast 16:14 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:14 And he's huge. He just did a grappling competition against this guy, Craig Jones, who's this, uh, Brazilian jiu jitsu guy from Australia that's a murderer. He's is a leg lock specialist too and he caught him in a leg lock. It's crazy to see how big he is. Rumble's like fucking, I don't know, he's gotta be like 260 pounds. Like, no bullshit.

Everlast 16:32 Wow.

Joe Rogan 16:32 He's huge, man.

Everlast 16:33 Yeah, I haven't seen him-

Joe Rogan 16:34 He's huge.

Everlast 16:34 I saw, I seen him, we sat next to a fight of, not the last fight I went to, but whatever the one last fight before that in Vegas.

Joe Rogan 16:40 Bro, he looks like a fucking super heavyweight. He's so big, it's ridiculous. Yeah, he just n- not even thinking about losing weight for fighting anymore. I won- wonder what would happen if he decided to come back as a heavyweight. Like, no bullshit. As a heavyweight, if that guy d- I mean, do you know how crazy it would be if that guy wound up winning the heavyweight title? Like, if you think of the Rumble career. He wins The Ultimate Fighter as a 170, gets all the way up to 185. Can't make 185, misses weight, right? Misses it for the Vitor Belfort fight, I believe. A big fight. Then he goes up to light heavyweight. Even goes up to heavyweight. F- beat Andrei Arlovski in, I think it was the PFL, and I think it re- it really beat him badly if I remember correctly, like it bro- he broke his jaw. So and then-

Everlast 17:24 I don't know. I'm not rec- I don't remember that fight.

Joe Rogan 17:25 That was at heavyweight. That was at heavyweight in the PFL, it wasn't in the UFC.

Everlast 17:29 Okay.

Joe Rogan 17:29 And then he comes back to the UFC. He comes back to the UFC as a light heavyweight and just f- flatlining people.

Everlast 17:36 Yeah, I remember.

Joe Rogan 17:36 If you would h- see him hit people, you'd just go, "Whoa!" That guy can smack.

Everlast 17:39 Scary.

Joe Rogan 17:40 Timing too. Excellent timing. You know, he, it wasn't just power. Rumble Johnson's UFC return could be on cards if the price is right. Yeah, that was when? July. This is from recently? Uh, after, yeah, after his, uh, grappling match I think. Oh, really? Yeah, July. Two months ago. Dude he's- A month ago. ... so big right now. I would think he would fight heavyweight.

Everlast 17:59 Heavyweight. Him and Jon.

Joe Rogan 18:00 I mean, I've, I really think he's-

Everlast 18:02 (laughs) Him and Stipe.

Joe Rogan 18:03 He was torturing his body for so long to make 170. I never saw anybody lose... Oh my God, 278!

Everlast 18:11 Would you... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:12 He's so big.

Everlast 18:13 That's 100 pounds over what he fought-

Joe Rogan 18:16 (clapping)

Everlast 18:16 ... in-

Joe Rogan 18:16 It is.

Everlast 18:16 ... in his first fight.

Joe Rogan 18:16 A 100-pound gain. That is so-

Everlast 18:19 Wow.

Joe Rogan 18:19 ... crazy. 100 pounds more than what he weighed in when he won the Ultimate Fighter.

Everlast 18:24 That's insane.

Joe Rogan 18:25 That's insane. (laughs)

Everlast 18:27 God bless.

Joe Rogan 18:28 Oh my God, 278, oh my God, 178, oh my God. He was-

Everlast 18:35 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 18:35 ... 170.

Everlast 18:36 What do you make of it?

Joe Rogan 18:36 170-pound champion becomes a 278-pound heavyweight. And it does, like, where did he... How did you do that? Where is it?

Everlast 18:43 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 18:44 It's- it's crazy. That guy's power is fucking undeniably preposterous.

Everlast 18:50 What do you make of Brock, uh, trying to pick a fight with Jon Bones? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:54 Oh, that's so silly. That's not-

Everlast 18:55 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:55 Let's just talk. What I was gonna say about, uh, Rumble is that even though Rumble was that- that good and that scary, DC handled him, man. DC ate a hard-

Everlast 19:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:03 ... shot, got him to the ground. That was Rumble when he was 170. He was very thin. Now he's enormous, but DC was the guy who m- who managed to handle that.

Everlast 19:14 Yeah, crazy.

Joe Rogan 19:15 You know? DC-

Everlast 19:15 And- and- and-

Joe Rogan 19:15 ... that's how badass DC is.

Everlast 19:17 ... yeah, seemingly easily was the crazy part.

Joe Rogan 19:20 But he was the only one.

Everlast 19:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:20 He was the only one that can handle him like that.

Everlast 19:21 I- I didn't think that was gonna go that way. Like I said, that was my dude, so I was rooting heavy for him.

Joe Rogan 19:25 Well, DC is a special guy when it comes to wrestling. He's- he's e- especially talented. And, um, I think wrestlers, they know where they stand in the wrestling food chain. And when you get gripped by a dude like DC, you're like, "Oh, Jesus, this is Olympic-caliber wrestling." It's beast mode. He just starts smashing. And he was able to run his way through the heavyweight division. You gotta realize, before he lost to Stipe fight, he had only lost one round ever at heavyweight, really, arguably. And that was to Josh Barnett. I think that was like one round that he lost on the cards. And Josh Barnett is a, you know, a legend, a- a- a fucking, the youngest ever UFC heavyweight champion.

Everlast 20:04 Literal OG, yeah, literal-

Joe Rogan 20:04 He was the only one-

Everlast 20:04 ... literal OG.

Joe Rogan 20:04 ... he was the only one that can handle him like that.

Everlast 20:04 I- I didn't think that was gonna go that way. Like I said, that was my dude, so I was rooting heavy for him.

Joe Rogan 20:04 Well, DC is a special guy when it comes to wrestling. He's- he's, uh, especially talented. And, um, I think wrestlers, they know where they stand in the wrestling food chain. When you get gripped by a dude like DC, you're like, "Oh, Jesus, this is Olympic-caliber wrestling." It's beast mode. He just starts smashing. And he was able to run his way through the heavyweight division. You gotta realize, before he lost to Stipe fight, he had only lost one round ever at heavyweight, really, arguably. And that was to Josh Barnett. I think that was like one round that he lost on the cards. And Josh Barnett is, uh, you know, a legend, a- a- a- a fucking, the youngest ever UFC heavyweight champion.

Everlast 20:05 Literal OG.

Joe Rogan 20:05 The youngest ever-

Everlast 20:05 Literal OG.

Joe Rogan 20:05 ... UFC heavyweight champion, Josh Barnett. Brilliant guy too. Do you know Josh?

Everlast 20:10 Not personally, no. I'm not saying that.

Joe Rogan 20:11 Fucking brilliant guy, brilliant guy. So that's the last round that DC had ever lo- he lost like one round as a heavyweight. He was just dominating people. With his wrestling and his hand speed, he was just fucking people up, but it just- that's how good Stipe is, man. People slept on Stipe. You know, people thought that DC was gonna run him over again like he ran him over the first time. And, uh, you know, I think DC prepared for a long and arduous fight, but Stipe is a big, big man, big giant heavyweight, man. He's a- a long, tall dude, a long frame. And DC weighed more than him during the fight. I think he weighed like six pounds more than him, something like that. But it's just built... It's a just- just- just-

Everlast 20:50 And didn't-

20:50 ... distributed very differently.

20:51 Didn't Stipe come in like 20 or 30 pounds less than last time?

Joe Rogan 20:54 He came in less. Yeah. I don't know if it was 20 pounds, but I think it was, (sighs) he was like 230 in this fight, and I think DC was 236. So DC came in light too.

Everlast 21:03 Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan 21:03 He came in lighter than their first fight. But I think, uh, you know, Stipe came in after like a whole year of waiting for this rematch, like, trying to figure out if it's ever gonna happen, is- is DC gonna fight Brock Lesnar? And Jesus Chri-... You know, it's like he was always waiting. And then finally they gave him the chance. T- to see him... I- I hate to see DC lose. I hate it. It's hard to watch, man. He's such a nice guy. It's- it's hard, as much as I like that guy, to see him get hit. It's hard. But you take all that stuff out and just look at it as two athletes, and what Stipe did was just brilliant.

Everlast 21:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:40 The- the whipping of that left hook to the body was just textbook, man, textbook.

Everlast 21:45 Mm-hmm.

21:45 DC was fighting an amazing fight up until that- Mm-hmm. ... until the- he gassed a little bit it looked like to me and- and the liver shots started happening, you know?

Joe Rogan 21:53 It's also, you gotta appreciate the technique. The way Stipe threw that left hook was p- perfect. I mean, it was just... These are brilliant shots. There's no wasted movement. The technique was pinpoint. I mean, he just whack, he just rips him in there and d- he caught DC standing there and he just hit him with a hard left to the body. And then once he realized he could do that more, he just continued what they were doing-

Everlast 22:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:19 ... and then whack, he would go do it again. And he got in again. And then now DC is in a little bit of trouble. And now he's gotta... He... What's he gonna try to do, take him down? Like, he's in this spot where he's kinda still standing with him and he's not down-

Everlast 22:30 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 22:30 ... but he's hurt.

Everlast 22:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:31 And so it's how much is he hurt? I mean, he got hit with hard body shots by a-

Everlast 22:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:36 ... big heavyweight.

Everlast 22:37 His- his face was definitely letting it be known.

Joe Rogan 22:39 (sighs) Ooh, those are brutal. Ugh. And- and then boom, he starts hitting him up to the head and, uh, drops him, and wow, that was super impressive.

Everlast 22:48 Like, when you're calling a fight, ho- how often are you looking here and how often are you like looking there?

Joe Rogan 22:52 It depends on what I can see.

Everlast 22:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:54 Uh, some... I mean, what you're saying is a monitor.

Everlast 22:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:56 Yeah.

Everlast 22:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:56 Depends on how often I- I- I wanna see it. If I could just see it-

Everlast 22:59 No, absolutely. That's why I'm just curious.

Joe Rogan 23:00 Yeah.

Everlast 23:00 Like impor- I'm not even... I'm just saying, uh, percentage-wise, if you were to guess, what is it, what, about a third of the time you're looking at this and the rest of the time you're probably up here?

Joe Rogan 23:08 Yeah, maybe less than a third on the monitors. I try to stay off the monitors. The monitors will... I- I wanna see, you know? I wanna see what's happening. But then like if they're off to the side or like pressed up against the cage, then I kinda have to go to the monitors 'cause I need to see like-

Everlast 23:23 I'm comparing it to like an experience as like, yeah, ringside experience where I'm like how often... I'm like about a third of the time I feel like I'm looking-

Joe Rogan 23:29 You're watching the screen.

Everlast 23:30 ... at the- at the screens-

Joe Rogan 23:31 Yeah.

Everlast 23:31 ... you know what I mean? Just because I wanna... They're on- they're on the ground and I wanna see what's going on with the-

Joe Rogan 23:35 Yeah.

Everlast 23:35 ... with the arm that I can't see. You know what I mean? That kinda thing.

Joe Rogan 23:37 Yeah. Yeah. It's a wild fucking sport, man. It's so wild.

Everlast 23:41 Yeah. I was trying to figure it out the other day. I think I've been to like maybe 60 UFCs, man.

Joe Rogan 23:47 Jesus Christ. (laughs)

Everlast 23:48 Yeah. I think so, dude. If I-

Joe Rogan 23:49 (laughs) Tough. Tough.

Everlast 23:49 I think back to the years-

Joe Rogan 23:50 Yeah.

Everlast 23:50 ... of when I met Dana and Chuck, and like ever since that day, it's like anyone I call up and you know, I'm- I'm- I'm blessed and then you know, I get to go.

Joe Rogan 23:58 I do- I know you're always there. (laughs)

Everlast 23:59 And when I was single, dude, I- you know, you- we- when I was... When it was those days, it was a whole different game. I'd be in almost every one 'cause a lot of... most of them were in Vegas.

Joe Rogan 24:07 Yeah.

Everlast 24:08 So it would be, uh, it would be easy to get there.

Joe Rogan 24:11 Yeah. Those are fun experiences, man.

Everlast 24:13 Trying to figure out how to pull up on Abu Dhabi, man.

Joe Rogan 24:16 (laughs)

Everlast 24:16 Are you really?

24:16 (laughs)

24:16 I'm trying. (laughs) I'm trying to figure out-

Joe Rogan 24:19 Dude.

Everlast 24:19 ... how... Do I just buy a ticket and go or do I figure out how...

Joe Rogan 24:21 (laughs)

Everlast 24:21 So, yo, any promoter out there that wants some, uh, jump around action?

Joe Rogan 24:25 (laughs)

Everlast 24:25 (laughs) ... holler at me. You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 24:28 Yeah.

Everlast 24:28 I'm just trying to pull up on the Abu Dhabi fight and have that experience.

Joe Rogan 24:31 I'm gonna be watching that one from here. We're gonna probably do a fight companion for that.

Everlast 24:36 And one day, I wanna be invited to one of those, one of those, one of those.

Joe Rogan 24:38 Dude, you gotta come to one of those. Those are ridiculous.

Everlast 24:40 Yeah, no, that's... They're fun.

Joe Rogan 24:42 Just-

Everlast 24:42 I... Trust me.

Joe Rogan 24:43 Try not to get into conspiracies. (laughs)

Everlast 24:44 No, no. (laughs) Dude, dude. I'm, I'm well aware.

Joe Rogan 24:48 Try to keep Eddie away from the Illuminati.

Everlast 24:51 I'm well, well aware. Right.

Joe Rogan 24:52 It's... This is the only way it goes south, but even then, it's fun. It's always fun. It's like, it's just, it... The best thing in the world is, like, watching fights with friends and, uh, and laughing. It's like-

Everlast 25:02 No, I've, I've watched it a few times, yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:04 Good combinations of things. Yeah.

Everlast 25:05 Yeah, it's, it's a fun thing.

Joe Rogan 25:06 It's my most favorite way to watch fights.

Everlast 25:08 Turn the sound down at the house-

Joe Rogan 25:10 Yeah. (laughs)

Everlast 25:10 ... and fix y'all up. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:11 Yeah. Man, you could say things you just can't say, you know? You could talk about things that you-

Everlast 25:16 Absolutely.

Joe Rogan 25:17 ... could never otherwise talk about. And you could describe things with language. Like, the wh- all the language. You could use all the language. You know? Like, when I'm doing the UFC, it's... For sure, like, little kids are listening to this. Which is kinda weird, right? Like, if you say fuck, that's bad. But if they watch someone get beaten half to death-

Everlast 25:34 The fighter could say it, though. I mean, you know what I mean? The fighter could say it.

Joe Rogan 25:37 Yeah.

Everlast 25:38 I think, I think appropriately and intelligently placed, it wouldn't be out of line.

Joe Rogan 25:45 Mm.

Everlast 25:45 But you couldn't overdo it or overuse it. It would have to be like... You'd have to, like, pick that perfect moment.

Joe Rogan 25:50 The problem is, it, it gets in the way of, uh, doing the commentary, right? You're deci- any decision that you would make to use that kinda language would get in the way of the commentary because it, it would be like... It would be less effective. Like, they would go, "Oh, this guy." Like, "Why did he have to use it there?"

Everlast 26:13 True.

Joe Rogan 26:13 And there would be, like, judgment of, like, when to use it and why to use it. It's... And then they would, like, think less of what you have to say, or be upset by what you have to say. And that would be the number one thing. Th- if you're trying to do commentary, the number one thing you're trying to do is take yourself out of it. Like, I'm trying to do that. I'm just trying to, like, use the best language possible to express my excitement for what we're about to see. Like, this is what's important to me. Like, I just wanna let... I'm fucked. This is how fucking pumped I am. These guys are murderers. This is gonna be fascinating to see. Yoel Romero, Paulo Costa. What the fuck?

Everlast 26:45 That was... That's exactly how we were talking in the car on the way down. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:48 Dude, I was watching that fight like this, like this. This is me, like, "Jesus." Like, it's like one of those fights where you're just waiting for some crazy... The, the beatings they were giving each other was crazy, man. Fucking two chiseled, granite-looking motherfuckers-

Everlast 27:02 Yeah, Yoel and a, and a Gucci model.

Joe Rogan 27:04 ... woo! Jesus Christ.

Everlast 27:04 (laughs) That is gonna be in a Gucci model ad next week.

Joe Rogan 27:07 Yeah, for sure, if Gucci doesn't put, pick him up.

Everlast 27:09 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 27:09 They're crazy. The guy's beautiful. They're both giant, beautiful men with incredible bodies. It was... Man, the fight was fucking fantastic, man. It was so highly skilled. That Paulo Costa guy is for real, man. He's for real. If he can do that to Yoel, if he could stay on top of Yoel like that... Yoel explodes on everyone, explodes on everyone, but that dude weathered the storm. He weathered the storm, and he landed some great shots. It was a very close fight, though, 'cause Yoel hit him with some big shit too, and Yoel took him down twice, you know?

Everlast 27:41 Yeah. We were, we were... You know, it was my 50th Sap- Sunday, so we were out Saturday and Sunday.

Joe Rogan 27:47 What's the word? What's the word again?

Everlast 27:48 Uh, oh, sláinte.

Joe Rogan 27:49 Sláinte?

Everlast 27:50 Yes, sir.

Joe Rogan 27:50 Sláinte. (laughs)

Everlast 27:51 So, like, you know, we were going Yoel, the old guy rep, you know what I mean? The old... For the rep for the old guys-

Joe Rogan 27:56 Right.

Everlast 27:56 You know what I mean? So we were going hard for Yoel.

Joe Rogan 27:58 Bro, he wins best body at 42 all over the world. The guy's a monster. I mean, who, who has more, like, a- athletic length of their elite career than Yoel? Because at 42, he still moves like he moved 10 years ago.

Everlast 28:14 Is he, is he 42 too? Is it... You know-

Joe Rogan 28:16 Who knows?

Everlast 28:17 That's what I'm saying.

Joe Rogan 28:18 Who knows?

Everlast 28:18 He's got that Cuban birth certificate and could be, like, 48. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:22 You know what... That's what they say about that Luis Ortiz guy, you know, that elite heavyweight boxer from Cuba?

Everlast 28:27 Uh, uh, uh, I'm gonna get in trouble from all my friend-

Joe Rogan 28:29 He's homeboy is, like, 50 years old.

Everlast 28:29 ... Cuban friends for that. I dare... Oh, they'll be busting my balls.

Joe Rogan 28:32 Hey, man, they'll laugh at you.

Everlast 28:32 (laughs) Oh, the Cyprus guys.

Joe Rogan 28:34 I had him on the podcast with Joey Diaz translating. It was amazing, man, to hear him tell his stories in Cuban. I just wish I spoke Spanish so I could understand it, like, coming from his mouth. But having Joey translate it and talk about all the shit that he had to deal with coming up through the Cuban amateur system of wrestling-

Everlast 28:49 This was when... One of your apartments?

Joe Rogan 28:51 Yeah. Look at that-

Everlast 28:51 I, I gotta watch it 'cause I don't, I don't... That one got by me.

Joe Rogan 28:54 Dude, look at that guy's build. Look at that build. That is preposterous. That is one of them sculpted things you buy at Toys "R" Us, right? It's like the Prometheus thing.

Everlast 29:01 Yeah, yeah. It's a, it's a, it's an action figure.

Joe Rogan 29:04 Yeah.

Everlast 29:04 That's an action figure, for sure.

Joe Rogan 29:05 Bro, that does not look like a real live human. He's so-

Everlast 29:08 That's a Batman suit. (laughs) That's what that is.

Joe Rogan 29:11 He's so freakishly athletic and so powerful. And, you know, it's that Cuban wrestler system. He, he just... The way he described it is like, "They turn you into a machine." You just become a fucking machine. And that's what he is with competition. He's just a machine, man.

Everlast 29:28 Yeah, he was clowning too in the second two rounds. Like, that's why I was, like, kinda felt like, you know?

Joe Rogan 29:33 Well, he was trying to get that guy to be emotional and make a mistake, you know?

Everlast 29:36 No, for sure. But it was like... He... A- again, he finished. He got him-

Joe Rogan 29:39 Mm-hmm.

Everlast 29:39 I mean, he, he got the best of him in those two rounds. In my book, I thought he won. Close, close. Not bad enough to be-

Joe Rogan 29:44 Yeah.

Everlast 29:44 ... like, bitching about it, but, like, I would've flipped the 29-28, personally.

Joe Rogan 29:48 Well, the audience agreed with you when they, uh, read-

Everlast 29:51 Oh, that's right. They were booing crazy.

Joe Rogan 29:52 They were booing it, yeah, which is unfortunate because Paulo Costa just fought an amazing fight and he has to feel like shit during the, the post-fight part.

Everlast 29:59 That does suck.

Joe Rogan 30:00 It sucks, but-

Everlast 30:00 Boos... I don't... I don't condone booing any of that stuff-

Joe Rogan 30:03 I know-

Everlast 30:03 ... because most of the people that would boo would never get in that ring. I would never get in that ring. You ain't got enough money. Again, I've made a lot of money and, uh, Conor McGregor hasn't got enough money from me getting in that ring.

Joe Rogan 30:12 (laughs)

Everlast 30:12 Dawg, I'm sorry, okay? You gotta fucking 100 billion.

Joe Rogan 30:15 Yeah.

Everlast 30:16 I'm like, "Nah, man." I'm like my consciousness.

Joe Rogan 30:18 But, um-

Everlast 30:18 You know, I'm not getting in with Mike Tyson for any money, you know, 'cause-

Joe Rogan 30:21 The problem is they're bullying the decision.

Everlast 30:22 ... that's a lottery ticket on the wrong side of things.

Joe Rogan 30:24 Yeah, for sure.... the problem is they're blowing the decision. It wasn't his decision.

Everlast 30:29 It wasn't.

Joe Rogan 30:30 He fought his heart out.

Everlast 30:31 And it, it wasn't that ridiculous, is my point too.

Joe Rogan 30:34 No, no. It was never ridiculous.

Everlast 30:34 Like, it was like, "Ah, I would have flipped it, but hey-

Joe Rogan 30:36 Yes.

Everlast 30:36 ... okay, no n- it's-

Joe Rogan 30:37 Yeah.

Everlast 30:37 ... I can see how that could be seen."

Joe Rogan 30:39 100%. And your guy has been (laughs) live to 60 fucking UFCs.

Everlast 30:44 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:44 Yeah. It's just, um-

Everlast 30:48 I don't know what the woo thing is that's happened in the last couple years. Woo! Like, it's just like, and the whole crowd starts-

Joe Rogan 30:54 It's exciting.

Everlast 30:54 It's like (laughs) -

Joe Rogan 30:55 They just get excited.

Everlast 30:56 ... but that's new. That's like-

Joe Rogan 30:57 Yeah.

Everlast 30:57 ... that wasn't around a long time ago.

Joe Rogan 30:58 Probably some soccer thing. They probably stole it-

Everlast 31:00 Woo!

Joe Rogan 31:00 ... from soccer, right?

Everlast 31:00 And then like, it's woo! It's like e- it's like animals answering each other-

Joe Rogan 31:03 (laughs)

Everlast 31:03 ... at some points. (laughs) Like, you got motherfucking-

Joe Rogan 31:07 Right?

Everlast 31:07 ... you know, communicating by ... with the woos.

Joe Rogan 31:09 Dude, I never even thought of that. That's so true. The woo, that's a new thing.

Everlast 31:13 Yeah, in d- I mean, the last few years.

Joe Rogan 31:15 Like, over the last five or six years.

Everlast 31:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:16 Right? What do you think? Was that a wrestling thing?

Everlast 31:18 I feel like it started when it st- you know what? When's the first time it popped up down South, like a Kentucky or a North Carolina? That's when I feel like I heard it first, like-

Joe Rogan 31:26 You know, that might be Ric Flair. That might be a Ric Flair.

Everlast 31:28 It might be a Ric Flair? Is that what that is? Ah, woo!

Joe Rogan 31:30 Woo!

Everlast 31:30 Yo, m- dude, that would make a lot ... Now you fucking solved a mystery for me. That mak-

Joe Rogan 31:34 If-

Everlast 31:34 That would make sense if we can get some confirmation on that somehow.

Joe Rogan 31:38 I wi- Someone in a ch- someone asked this question on Reddit.

Everlast 31:40 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 31:40 And someone says you've been talking about Ric Flair so much that they might have picked it up from you. Oh, Jesus Christ. (laughs)

Everlast 31:46 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 31:46 I don't know if that's a great hit, but Jesus Christ, dude.

Everlast 31:47 What if th- what if this is some bizarro moment where it all connected, like, "Oh, shit, I started that." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 31:52 Listen, guys like that are important to America. The guy's such ... He's such a character, in his prime with his suits. Jet flying, alligator wearing.

Everlast 32:03 I was a WCW-

Joe Rogan 32:05 Son of a gun.

Everlast 32:05 ... guy, man, and Ric Flair was the man.

Joe Rogan 32:07 Dude, he was a ... Like, he's a character that made his way into, what, a thousand rap songs? How many rap songs have Ric Flair been in-

Everlast 32:15 Dude, there's a whole like, like, um, hip hop subculture involved with wrestling. Like, I mean, the ... There's like these cats that I'm ... We're actually fans of Westside Gunn and, and, and Conway and this kid Benny. They got this record label called Griselda, but the, the Westside Gunn kid is like a, a, a, a, a fucking wrestling fanatic. Like his m-

Joe Rogan 32:37 Wow.

Everlast 32:37 Like, he's like invol- I think he's involved with like the l- WWE, like doing merch and stuff like that now, 'cause I see him putting shit together that's, like, definitely gotta be licensed, so.

Joe Rogan 32:46 Wow.

Everlast 32:47 But like, yo, the ... It's, it's ... There's this whole subculture of like this ... of wrestling and, and, and hip hop going on right now.

Joe Rogan 32:53 Well, wrestling-

Everlast 32:53 So-

Joe Rogan 32:53 ... has definitely made its way into standup too now. You know, they have this, uh, podcast, The Store Horsemen, where they all just talk about pro wrestling, a bunch of comics, Tony Hinchcliffe and these comics. Who, who's on that Store Horsemen? Jeremiah Watkins, right? Who else? No, he's not? I'm giving out fal- fake news.

Everlast 33:09 Fake news.

Joe Rogan 33:10 That's fake news. Um, but it's-

Everlast 33:12 What's not fake news is this is-

Joe Rogan 33:13 Hinchcliffe-

Everlast 33:13 ... delicious, by the way.

Joe Rogan 33:14 It's very good. Yeah, this is-

Everlast 33:15 It's delicious.

Joe Rogan 33:16 ... Buffalo Trace.

Everlast 33:17 I ain't mad at it.

Joe Rogan 33:17 This company's from 1773, son. They started in 1773.

Everlast 33:23 I like it. It's really tasty.

Joe Rogan 33:23 Did you know that they sold whiskey during Prohibition for medicinal, medicinal purposes?

Everlast 33:28 Of course they did.

Joe Rogan 33:29 I didn't know that.

Everlast 33:29 Well, I didn't, but I, I would ... I'm not shocked at all.

Joe Rogan 33:32 They ... So this company kept making whiskey all through the, uh, Prohibition.

Everlast 33:36 Legally you're saying?

Joe Rogan 33:37 Legally, yeah, for medicine, so people that, you know-

Everlast 33:41 I'm gonna have to find this one.

Joe Rogan 33:41 ... need a little medicine.

Everlast 33:43 I just got an- a, a slew of new whiskeys-

Joe Rogan 33:45 Okay, here it is.

Everlast 33:46 ... for the birthday.

Joe Rogan 33:47 It's, uh, Tony Hinchcliffe, Johnny Skirtis, Matt Edgar, Josh Martin. That's right. I hope I said Skirtis' last name right. Is that right? Is that how you say it?

Everlast 33:56 I guess it sounds like it.

Joe Rogan 33:59 Yeah, anyway. Um, so comics are really into pro wrestling too. They even go live, these dorks. They fly out to, like, WrestleMania, and they go in the audience-

Everlast 34:08 Same-

Joe Rogan 34:08 ... they live stream everything.

Everlast 34:09 ... strange thing.

Joe Rogan 34:09 Yeah.

Everlast 34:09 Same thing.

Joe Rogan 34:10 Yeah. It's become like a p- not like a ... It's, uh, become a thing that people like to do, like to go to these big wrestling events and g- groups of people, whether it's musicians or rappers, hip hop or standups.

Everlast 34:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:24 They're going like-

Everlast 34:25 For sure.

Joe Rogan 34:26 ... experiencing it together.

Everlast 34:27 It's-

Joe Rogan 34:27 Look at-

Everlast 34:27 Exactly. It's like the concert experience.

Joe Rogan 34:29 (laughs)

Everlast 34:29 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:29 Why are rappers-

Everlast 34:30 Ric Flair.

Joe Rogan 34:30 ... rappers so obsessed with Ric Flair?

Everlast 34:32 'Cause he's got, like, 40 Rolexes.

Joe Rogan 34:36 (laughs)

Everlast 34:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:36 'Cause he's-

Everlast 34:37 You know, he's Ric Flair.

Joe Rogan 34:38 That one famous rant that he went on, "Limousine riding, jet flying."

Everlast 34:44 Yeah, exactly. You know?

Joe Rogan 34:45 Yeah, that kind of shit.

Everlast 34:45 And they were all eight when that happened.

Joe Rogan 34:47 Yeah, and you're like, "Woo!"

Everlast 34:47 And they saw that, yeah. See, that's everything-

Joe Rogan 34:50 Yeah.

Everlast 34:50 ... I want in, in the universe.

Joe Rogan 34:52 It's int- Yeah, you see him now. I mean, the, the guy still gets love everywhere he goes, you know? Like, it ... The ... I did in my special where I said, you know, "Ric Flair," and then I put the microphone out to the audience. The audience goes, "Woo!" Like-

Everlast 35:06 Dude, you started-

Joe Rogan 35:07 ... that is the one dude.

Everlast 35:07 ... that shit then, dude. You started the woo. How the fuck-

Joe Rogan 35:10 I don't think I did.

Everlast 35:11 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:11 I don't think I did. I think it was already going on. I think everybody appreciates this guy. It's like, as you get old ... We can't play this, right? We'll get in trouble. But this is the ... A- as you, you know, you get older, you y- and you see things like this, you appreciate them for what they are. Like, you could think they're cheesy when you're young, but then as you get older, you go, "No, that's fucking awesome."

Everlast 35:31 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:32 (laughs) The fact that that guy is this tank-

Everlast 35:35 Those glasses are amazing.

Joe Rogan 35:36 ... with his beautiful golden mullet, with those cl- crazy sunglasses, saying this, all this- saying all this nutty shit.

Everlast 35:41 Big old pinky ring.

Joe Rogan 35:43 Dude, man, that's a artist. That guy was an artist. Look at him.

Everlast 35:48 That's, that's the male soap opera forever, since back when we were children-

Joe Rogan 35:52 Forever.

Everlast 35:52 ... man.

Joe Rogan 35:52 Yeah.

Everlast 35:53 You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 35:54 When I was a kid, it was Bob Backlund and Jimmy "Superfly" Snuka and Iron Sheik.

Everlast 35:59 I don't know if you coulda w- really grown up in America as a, as a, as a little boy and not had a phase at some point where you interacted with one of these wrestling organizations.

Joe Rogan 36:09 Yeah.

Everlast 36:09 WCW or WWF-

Joe Rogan 36:11 Yeah.

Everlast 36:11 ... when I was growing up.

Joe Rogan 36:13 And if you were like one of those kids that's really into like alt music and indie groups, you know, you, you would go for some like fucking Killer Kowalski shit. You would go-

Everlast 36:21 Undertaker.

Joe Rogan 36:23 Yeah. You would go ... You would try to find some people-

Everlast 36:24 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:24 ... that were o- off the beaten path. Like, "Do you know about this wrestling organization?" 'Cause there's a bunch of like weird little tiny ones.

Everlast 36:31 Dude, when I was ... When the House of Pain like was g- like early on, like you know, but t- you know, we were already experiencing pretty good success. Like ECW had formed.

Joe Rogan 36:40 Ah.

Everlast 36:41 The Crazy Extreme Championship Wrestling-

Joe Rogan 36:43 Mm-hmm.

Everlast 36:43 ... I think that's what it stood for, out of Philadelphia, and they invited us to a bunch ... And it was the first time I ever really ... And I know it had happened before, but their whole show was about cats cutting their faces open and bleeding during matches and shit. (laughs) It was insanity, man.And they had packed houses. I mean, I think dude bought it up. Like, Vince McMahon bought it up and the guy who owned it or ran it became one of the, like, characters within it, I- I believe. I- it's been a long time, I'm old now, I'm 50.

Joe Rogan 37:09 Did you see what Ronda Rousey did to her finger? Did you see that shit?

Everlast 37:12 Shh, I saw that yesterday.

Joe Rogan 37:14 How about that, man? They glued that thing together, and she went back to work.

Everlast 37:18 How about she... I- if I read it right, she finished the take.

Joe Rogan 37:22 (laughs) She finished the take and d- ignored it until it was over, and then when it was over-

Everlast 37:26 And then when it was over, guys... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:26 ... she realized how bad it was.

Everlast 37:28 Guys...

Joe Rogan 37:28 So she goes to the hospital-

Everlast 37:29 Phew.

Joe Rogan 37:29 ... they put it back together again, and then she goes back and finishes.

Everlast 37:33 Gangster.

Joe Rogan 37:34 Dude.

Everlast 37:35 That's dedication.

Joe Rogan 37:36 Not a lot- not a lot of humans can do that.

Everlast 37:37 It's also like, I don't want to fight anymore, I'm going to go finish this movie. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:41 Well, it's not just, it's a-

Everlast 37:41 Because fighting is like just, you know, nobody wants to cut the weight once they're done, they're not going to want to come back to that shit.

Joe Rogan 37:46 Well, that's just the mindset of an elite combat sports athlete.

Everlast 37:50 For sure.

Joe Rogan 37:50 She just had that mindset. There's not a whole lot of humans that would've dealt with that that way. That's crazy. That lady's made out of bullets. (laughs)

Everlast 37:57 (laughs) I'm going on my workman's comp from my SAG-AFTRA insurance. (laughs) Amen.

Joe Rogan 38:03 Yeah, you're- you're shutting down production, son. We ain't finishing no scenes. What is-

Everlast 38:07 Chopped off a superstar's finger.

Joe Rogan 38:09 Yeah, Jesus Christ. What if she lost her finger? What if it was like-

Everlast 38:12 I mean, how far... I mean, it wasn't far. I mean...

Joe Rogan 38:14 Bro, yeah, that's a fucking-

Everlast 38:16 Without the- the super expert-

Joe Rogan 38:17 That's injuring. Yeah.

Everlast 38:19 Surgeons, that's gone.

Joe Rogan 38:20 Yeah.

Everlast 38:20 Dude, speaking of which, dude, last- last... I think it happened, I don't know if we talked about it. It might've been after the last time it was on, dude. So I'm on a trip and I'm coming home, literally about to get on the plane, and I get this text from my wife like, "Um, I'm at the hospital. I got, uh, I chopped off my finger." And I'm like, in my head I'm like, "She didn't chop off her finger, man. She's got it cut or... She's probably got it pretty bad with the stitches." I was like, "Okay, it's pretty bad." I was like, "All right, I'm about..." It was like about a three-hour flight home, so all right, I'll- I'll be there as soon as I can. So I get there and I pick her up from the hospital and she's got the big thing on and I get the story of she was getting in the shower, and we have a, you know, big glass swinging shower door.

Joe Rogan 39:02 Mm-hmm.

Everlast 39:03 And she fucking like... or she was like getting in and like, you know, holding onto like the edge real quick as the door slammed shut on it and just lopped off the fucking hole, like a- to the knuckle basically.

Joe Rogan 39:15 (sighs)

Everlast 39:15 They put that shit back on.

Joe Rogan 39:17 (sighs)

Everlast 39:17 Fixed it up a little bit. (laughs) It looks pretty fucking good now.

Joe Rogan 39:20 (laughs)

Everlast 39:20 But that was crazy. Now it just reminded me of it with the whole-

Joe Rogan 39:23 Oh.

Everlast 39:23 ... Ronda Rousey.

Joe Rogan 39:24 Fingers are so... It's- it's amazing that they don't break more often. They're so gentle.

Everlast 39:29 My shit would be over, like if that part of my-

Joe Rogan 39:31 Yes.

Everlast 39:31 This finger... Like this is the- the- them, you know, the f- guitar on the- the fret hand.

Joe Rogan 39:36 Yeah.

Everlast 39:36 Like, if I lost that part of that finger, I'm... I got... It's going to take me four or five years to learn how to play with just these.

Joe Rogan 39:42 My friend-

Everlast 39:43 At least.

Joe Rogan 39:43 My friend Paul was, uh, closing a window and, uh, it had shattered and cut his finger and cut through the tendons and his finger was like permanently curled.

Everlast 39:53 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 39:53 And he had a bunch of operations to try to straighten it out, but then eventually he just gave up. They could never straighten it out. It- it never regained like full range of motion from a window.

Everlast 40:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:03 Like, it's so delicate. Everything, all the stuff is so delicate. You know?

Everlast 40:07 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 40:07 That's why it's great, that's why I find it-

Everlast 40:08 That blew my mind, like...

Joe Rogan 40:09 ... so ridiculous.

Everlast 40:10 A s- a s- a s- a glass door, not sharp really, I went home and looked at it and like-

Joe Rogan 40:15 Oh.

Everlast 40:15 It's pretty beveled on the edges, but the weight of it just lopped off the fucking finger-

Joe Rogan 40:20 Ah.

Everlast 40:20 ... like crazy.

Joe Rogan 40:21 Mm.

Everlast 40:22 She was pretty gangster though, I have to say. She was pretty gangster.

Joe Rogan 40:25 What do you think, Tyson? What do you think of that scene where they put his hand in the fucking bowl-

Everlast 40:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:29 ... the whole bowling thing?

Everlast 40:29 My wife actually posted, I don't... it's... I don't... I think she... I don't think it's on her any- any Instagram anymore.

Joe Rogan 40:34 (laughs) This move is so ridiculous.

Everlast 40:34 She posted the tip of her finger in the plastic bag as she took it to the fucking-

Joe Rogan 40:39 (Laughs) Oh, my God.

Everlast 40:40 ... goddamn fucking hospital, dude.

Joe Rogan 40:42 Did she have ice in the bag?

Everlast 40:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:44 Oh, Jesus Christ.

Everlast 40:45 Yeah, dude, they- they couldn't reattach but they... it was like they, uh, were able to like extend it somehow and like it... and pla- and luckily the dude out right there, there was this dude who was an expert at hand plastic surgery.

Joe Rogan 40:57 Oh, wow.

Everlast 40:58 And like hooked her shit up, like it looks-

Joe Rogan 41:00 I think-

Everlast 41:00 ... rela- it looks pretty normal.

Joe Rogan 41:01 ... something, something happens to your skin like if your finger gets, uh, chopped off at the end, there's a way to make it grow back, right? Isn't there? Am I making this up? It seems like I remember there was... there's a way where if something happens to your tip of your finger-

Everlast 41:15 Oh, yeah, if you don't get the bone.

Joe Rogan 41:16 ... this like something that can... Yeah.

Everlast 41:16 It- it- they can... Yeah, I've heard... I think they said something like that, but like it got her- it got a piece of her bone just...

Joe Rogan 41:21 (sighs)

Everlast 41:22 That's why I'm saying-

Joe Rogan 41:23 Like, how she...

Everlast 41:23 ... it's so shocking at how it just lopped it off clean.

Joe Rogan 41:26 Ay, ay, ay.

Everlast 41:27 Like a s- like an angle, like whip.

Joe Rogan 41:29 And it... Wow.

Everlast 41:30 You like that sound effect?

Joe Rogan 41:31 Yeah. Whip.

Everlast 41:32 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:34 I keep thinking that one day they're going to come up with artificial Luke Skywalker type hands and that people are going to want them instead of regular hands. That's what I'm worried about.

Everlast 41:43 Wow.

Joe Rogan 41:45 If they came up with an arm-

Everlast 41:46 It would sound terrible though.

Joe Rogan 41:48 ... that works way better than your arm-

Everlast 41:48 Like metal on metal. Unless if you had the skin like simulation, it could- I could play guitar with that maybe.

Joe Rogan 41:53 See, I'm talking about self-

Everlast 41:54 I'd probably do some wild shit.

Joe Rogan 41:56 I'm talking about self-healing, bulletproof, spider silk hybrid skin-

Everlast 42:02 (clears throat)

Joe Rogan 42:02 ... like what the government's working on. (clears throat) They're working on that right now. They're working on some sort of, uh-

Everlast 42:07 I don't doubt it, man. I- I s-

Joe Rogan 42:09 I read an article-

Everlast 42:09 You want to hear the wild one? All right, I went on, you know, one night fucking smoking and I went on a little YouTube, uh, wormhole situation and somehow, I don't even know if it's a YouTube video or someone else, but I wound up on this video that was like, "World's smartest kid thinks that CERN blew the world up in 2008." All right? And I'm like, "What the fuck?" So I go on this video, right?

Joe Rogan 42:34 (laughs)

Everlast 42:34 And I'm watching this video, dude. And it's this young kid, he's like 12 and the motherfucker's talking. You know, half the... you're... you gotta invest like 20 minutes into this kid t- talking about things that are super smart and it's kind of like to show you he's super smart, you know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 42:49 Right.

Everlast 42:49 This kid. And his dad's doing the recording, I believe, or a relative, somebody very close to him. And he goes into this whole theory of how he thinks when they collided the- the- the uh, electrons, I believe in- in the- in the- in the super collider?

Joe Rogan 43:02 Mm-hmm.

Everlast 43:03 CERN. That they...... caused some crazy chain reaction that blew up the universe, but they also weighed, they- they created an atom that weighed too much, and he had s- oh, the first 20 minutes is also explaining-

Joe Rogan 43:16 (laughs)

Everlast 43:16 ... infinite parallel universes. So what the kid winds up with is this theory of, like, one atom weighing too much and weig- and it's that being just enough to shift our universe into a, a parallel uni- (laughs) yeah, this is it right here, dude.

Joe Rogan 43:31 Whoa.

Everlast 43:31 So, this guy had, this kid had me fucked up because after I watched this, everything I saw for months was talking about, like, it would be news guy on the, on the news like, "I don't know what universe I'm in anymore." Or, uh, eh, Spider-Man into the w- spider verse. Like, all these, everything I saw for, like, four or five months after watching this video (laughs) was, like, multiverse shit.

Joe Rogan 43:52 Listen-

Everlast 43:52 Like, shit about multiverses, and it's got me fucked up, Joe.

Joe Rogan 43:56 I hear you.

Everlast 43:58 (laughs) .

Joe Rogan 43:58 I'm fucked up too now.

Everlast 43:59 Shit got me fucked up, man.

Joe Rogan 44:00 Listen, read that para-

Everlast 44:01 This kid.

Joe Rogan 44:01 Look at what it says there. He claims that CERN destroyed the universe during recent experiments which has resulted in us living in a nearby parallel universe instead.

Everlast 44:12 You're welcome, Eddie.

Joe Rogan 44:13 (laughs) There's a lot of people online-

Everlast 44:14 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 44:15 ... (clears throat) that think this is an explanation for all the Mandela effect things that people keep finding online.

Everlast 44:18 Yeah, yeah, yeah, they, they, he goes into stuff about the Mandela effect, how, you know, there's like s- apparently a bunch of people who think Meli- De- Mandela died in prison.

Joe Rogan 44:25 Right.

Everlast 44:25 And, like, there's, you know-

Joe Rogan 44:26 Yeah.

Everlast 44:27 ... and as far as I know, he was released, became president of South America. You know what I mean? That's the universe-

Joe Rogan 44:31 Right.

Everlast 44:31 ... I'm from-

Joe Rogan 44:32 Yeah.

Everlast 44:32 ... just personally. You know? But it's crazy. Dude, what? 'Cause it, it's not just-

Joe Rogan 44:37 But I-

Everlast 44:37 ... this video. It's like, you watch it, and that YouTube algorithm starts sending you down a whole bunch of other, you know what I mean? You start hearing-

Joe Rogan 44:44 Yeah.

Everlast 44:44 ... Yuma- and it's like, it's f- and then, again, everything that came out. There was all these shows I would see or movies or news things about mult- the multiverse all of a sudden was everywhere around me. It was fucking nutty, dude. So I'm fucked up about that shit right now.

Joe Rogan 44:57 Well, if there was something they could do-

Everlast 44:58 Everything.

Joe Rogan 44:59 ... if there was something they could do that might open up a door to a parallel universe, you don't think they would do it?

Everlast 45:05 Stranger Things-

Joe Rogan 45:06 (clears throat)

Everlast 45:06 ... you mean?

Joe Rogan 45:07 Yeah.

Everlast 45:08 (laughs) I'd say that's the gold, the gold thing.

Joe Rogan 45:09 This is Stranger Things. I mean, things are strange, right? It is Stranger Things.

Everlast 45:14 Fuckin' bizarro world.

Joe Rogan 45:15 You know what's the weirdest one? Is the, the, like, w- the people that dismiss climate change. That is the weirdest one to me, 'cause I'm like, what is th- I'm trying to figure out what's the benefit of dismissing climate change other than in l- if you work for, like, the oil industry or something.

Everlast 45:30 Well, d- Iceland just lost-

Joe Rogan 45:32 You work for someone who's gonna-

Everlast 45:32 ... a glacier.

Joe Rogan 45:33 Yeah.

Everlast 45:33 Like, they just posted a whole v- thing of 10 year or '80, like, something in the '80s, a glacier picture of it.

Joe Rogan 45:38 Right.

Everlast 45:38 And m- just now and it's gone.

Joe Rogan 45:40 But I'm not even saying li- like blaming anybody for it. I'm saying dismissing it as an issue. I'm like, let's pretend the people have nothing to do with it. Let's just, I wish people had nothing to do with it because then we can go, "Holy fuck, (laughs) it's getting hot." Like, how hot is it gonna get? Like, we could just figure it out. Like, if it was just a-

Everlast 45:59 Our, our record at this point where it's two degrees, the oceans are hotter-

Joe Rogan 46:01 Right.

Everlast 46:01 ... than they've been in-

Joe Rogan 46:02 But do you-

Everlast 46:03 ... ever.

Joe Rogan 46:03 ... know how people do that where they try to say like, "Well, this is a natural cycle." This is something that some people still say, right? Well, okay, even if it was just a natural cycle, I wish humans weren't in the equation at all so there was no argument. I wish it would just be like, "Hey, guys, it's getting really hot. What the fuck do we do?" As if we had no control over it whatsoever. Not saying that we shouldn't take steps to fix it, and we definitely should. But I'm saying that if it was impossible for people to have created it and it was happening around us, maybe we would be forced to do something. Maybe we'd be forced to, like, go to higher ground, get the fuck out of the, the really hot spots, you know? M- make your way towards Canada (laughs) . Like, I mean, maybe that would, what's w- what we would do if there was no other way. But we know that at least part of what the problem is is people, at least part of what the problem. But so many people are start- they- they d- wanna start arguments about that and fight that. And to me, it's so strange. It's like, what's the benefit of arguing against that it's happening? I don't understand. Like, it's happening. You see it getting warmer, you see the statistics, you see everybody freaking out. The, the Amazon's on fire. Have you seen that?

Everlast 47:11 Yes.

Joe Rogan 47:11 For weeks.

Everlast 47:11 No, it's fucking horrifying. It's, it's-

Joe Rogan 47:13 You see those photos from South Paulo?

Everlast 47:14 Yes, and that they're just, and I believe it's purposeful, right?

Joe Rogan 47:18 I, I have heard that that is the, that some people are thinking-

Everlast 47:20 It's being burnt away on purpose is what I'm, uh, if I've, uh, some, the, the things I've read or understood. I won't swear their truth 'cause again, it, now that's one of the things we, what, you're saying-

Joe Rogan 47:30 No, that's a suspicion.

Everlast 47:31 ... is, is you gotta question everything now. Truth has been compromised, man. You know what I mean? No matter, uh, what side or whatever you are on-

Joe Rogan 47:38 Yeah.

Everlast 47:39 ... truth has been co- has been seriously compromised because there's a counter opinion to everything. And if you're not, um, adept enough to really get involved and find factual information, you can literally counter any argument there is.

Joe Rogan 47:54 Yeah.

Everlast 47:54 With, with something, "Oh," I s- "well, I read this. Well, I read this."

Joe Rogan 47:58 Mm-hmm.

Everlast 47:58 Okay, well, that doesn't mean either one of those things are true. Let's go find the tr- you know what I mean? It-

Joe Rogan 48:02 Mm-hmm.

Everlast 48:02 That doesn't exist anymore because it's, the people just wanna Google that shit and get on-

Joe Rogan 48:06 Yeah.

Everlast 48:06 ... and move on with their day, you know? And, and it's laziness on our part. A lot of people don't want n- it's like fucking this thing that everybody's posting what the goddamn fucking Instagram, uh, don't give you permission-

Joe Rogan 48:18 Right. Yeah, it's so silly.

Everlast 48:19 You know, it's, it's g- use ev- y- I read a whole other thing that says the Amer- or average American, I believe, signs one or two legal documents a day without reading them, and just by s- logging in to shit on your phone, Amazon or Instagram or whatever.

Joe Rogan 48:33 Mm-hmm.

Everlast 48:33 You, every time you do that you s- you subscribe and, and, and, and adhere to their terms and conditions. Y- and some, you think of a picture of a copied and pasted Instagram thing over something that was from Facebook fucking 12 years ago (laughs) is, it's, it's bananas.

Joe Rogan 48:49 Well-

Everlast 48:49 It's bananas.

Joe Rogan 48:50 People get roped into things, you know? One s- per- person just isn't better than- yeah, yeah.

Everlast 48:54 I see smart people posting and saying, "Better safe than sorry."

Joe Rogan 48:57 Yeah.

Everlast 48:57 Like-

Joe Rogan 48:57 Yeah, I've seen that too.

Everlast 48:58 But what argument is that?

Joe Rogan 49:00 Well, they don't know how to internet. They don't know how to internet.

Everlast 49:03 I'm just saying even if it's like you suspect it's wrong but you, oh, fuck it anyways (laughs) .

Joe Rogan 49:07 Right.

Everlast 49:07 It's like wait, wait, that's... If you suspect it's wrong, take the extra time or just-

Joe Rogan 49:12 Yeah.

Everlast 49:13 ... don't do it at all.

Joe Rogan 49:14 Yeah.... like, "What? Do you really think that would be a loophole?"

Everlast 49:16 N- I'm just using that as an example of how-

Joe Rogan 49:18 Yeah.

Everlast 49:18 ... why we're ... What the state of things are as they are.

Joe Rogan 49:21 Yeah, it's a sneaky little loophole. It's a sneaky little thing that happens to you. You have to... Everybody's posting something stupid. "Did you send it to me? Oh, well, Everlast sent it to me, it must be legit."

Everlast 49:31 Right. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:31 (laughs) "Let me just post it." You know? I mean, how many times have you done that?

Everlast 49:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:35 I've done that all the time.

Everlast 49:35 I posted something clowning it, and then immediately after it, Dana came up. It was him posting (laughs) the exact thing. And-

Joe Rogan 49:42 Yeah, true.

Everlast 49:42 With the whole, like, better safe than sorry thing.

Joe Rogan 49:44 Oh, Christ.

Everlast 49:44 You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 49:45 Yeah.

Everlast 49:45 I was like, "Oh, man."

Joe Rogan 49:46 (laughs)

Everlast 49:47 "Oh, dude."

Joe Rogan 49:48 (laughs)

Everlast 49:49 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:52 They got everybody though. They got that fucking-

Everlast 49:54 They got-

Joe Rogan 49:54 ... Rick Perry guy. Rick Perry.

Everlast 49:55 Everybody. Everybody.

Joe Rogan 49:56 What is ... Isn't Rick Perry's job to like, fucking protect the nukes or something? I was gonna say, like, I saw a governor or someone post it too. Rick ... What did Rick Perry ... They said Rick Perry po- bu- but he has a specific job- The energy. ... in the government. He's like the energy, the energy secretary, I think. Yeah. He's like, in control of the nukes, right? I think so, yeah. Is that what it is? I think so. You're the energy secretary, yeah. You are.

Everlast 50:13 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:13 Yeah. I don't know. Whatever the fuck he is, he's got a big job and he, he fell for it. (laughs) It's ... Oh.

Everlast 50:21 It's bizarro world, man.

Joe Rogan 50:22 We're in bizarro world. Maybe that fucking kid is right.

Everlast 50:24 (laughs) I'm telling you, dude, you're ... Yo, you're gonna be calling me in a couple nights like, "Fuck you, dude." (laughs) "Why did you even tell me about that?"

Joe Rogan 50:32 (laughs) I've, I've really ... I've bounced the idea of multiple universes many times.

Everlast 50:37 We all have, but this kid ... Watch it. Just ... You're gonna invest ... Uh, give it 20 minutes or 15, 18 minutes, whatever it is, and then you'll be like, "Oh, wow." It's ...

Joe Rogan 50:47 Great.

Everlast 50:47 It's not that it's, "Oh, fact." It's ... But it's like, "Wow, that's super possible." It's super, super possible the way (laughs) he breaks it down.

Joe Rogan 50:54 What about this? What if every time you went to sleep and you woke up, you passed into (clears throat) a nearby and very similar universe, but not quite the same? And depending upon your choices and how you live your life, it's how you wake up and what new one you pop into on the other side. And everyone's just a little bit different. The whole world changes just a little bit each time you make a decision, one way or another. Everything changes when you wake up. You think the world is static because it is when you're awake. But you have no fucking idea what's happening while you're asleep. And when you wake up again, you have this foggy recollection of the past, and that's what you're going by. You're going by every morning waking up with a foggy recollection of the past.

Everlast 51:44 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:44 That's what you're doing.

Everlast 51:45 Right.

Joe Rogan 51:45 And you're, you're assuming that nothing's changed and everything's static and while you were asleep for eight hours, no- nothing weird happened. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You have no idea. You're dreaming. You're having crazy fantasies and shit. Weird stuff is happening. You're fucking mermaids. You're flying through the air on a, uh, on a helicopter. You know, you don't ... You, you ... Weird things happen when you're dreaming. What is all that about?

Everlast 52:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:05 We don't even know. We have no idea what that is. That soup of possibilities that's fucking swirling around in between your ears while you're snoring up a storm. And then boom, you wake up. Are you sure those memories are real? Are you sure that this isn't a whole completely new universe that you're living in today?

Everlast 52:23 Or assimilation.

Joe Rogan 52:25 Or simulation. There was someone who was-

Everlast 52:27 St- I said simulation. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:29 Simulation. That's, that's a baby formula.

Everlast 52:31 I would call myself out on that one right there.

Joe Rogan 52:33 There was some fucking ... Another genius super wizard kid who was talking about that, that, that something about simulations. I forget what the-

Everlast 52:41 I w- I was high at the house with my ... With, with the guy who runs my studio, Divine, and, and, and, and we were just fucking laughing, talking shit one day, high. Like, like, "What if," like, "I, I'm, I may have heard this ... I could've been on your show, I could've read this, so I'm not claiming resp- like, ownership of the thought." But it was like, "What if, like, we just come from a universe, like, that's so perfect and shit, and it's boring as fuck, and we just plug in to have all these fucked up, like, weird problems? And that's why everything's getting fucking weirder and crazier because, like, that's kinda why we're here. That's part of the ride, you know?"

Joe Rogan 53:15 That could be it. It could be the only way you appreciate love is to know hate, to really appreciate it. And it could be the only way we would appreciate all the good that we have is to balance it out with all the bad that we have. And when they start to overwhelm each other one way or the other, there's an imbalance that takes place and it leads to all of our fucking problems as a society. And when you, you l- think about how long you're gonna be alive and what it is that you're doing here and why you're doing it, you know, all those weird questions and answers that go on inside your head, it's all ... You're distributing energy, right? You're trying to figure out, "Am I distributing my energy right? Am I, uh, am I living my life in a way that is, uh, like, the best I can do with what I've got right now?"

Everlast 54:03 That's it.

Joe Rogan 54:04 All these mind fucks.

Everlast 54:05 That's all you gotta do though.

Joe Rogan 54:06 Just-

Everlast 54:06 I mean, honestly, even-

Joe Rogan 54:07 Yeah.

Everlast 54:07 No matter what we're saying, if you woke up every day and that was your objective-

Joe Rogan 54:11 Yeah.

Everlast 54:12 ... you couldn't really go or do much wrong.

Joe Rogan 54:15 No, no, you can't. And what if every day when you did that, you woke up in a nearby universe that was just a little bit different because of what you thought and did?

Everlast 54:24 Dude, that's like ... You know, that's a movie.

Joe Rogan 54:26 That's some magic type shit, Everlast.

Everlast 54:28 That's a movie, man. That's a movie.

Joe Rogan 54:29 That's a magic type shit.

Everlast 54:30 Oh, you went ... I, see, I ... Okay, I was, I was being, uh ... I just was, like, uh, trying to be, uh, not such a glutton. There we go.

Joe Rogan 54:36 There we go. Salud.

Everlast 54:37 Salud. DJ Melodee over there. I just wanted to-

Joe Rogan 54:40 Can ... Cheers. How about cheers? Let's go American, goddammit.

Everlast 54:43 Bow. This has been so patient.

Joe Rogan 54:43 Cheers. Cheers.

Everlast 54:44 Cheers.

Joe Rogan 54:45 DJ. Yeah. You got a, you got a DJ, bro. The only guy ever.

Everlast 54:50 I just- I've, I-

Joe Rogan 54:51 History of the show.

Everlast 54:51 See, here's the thing. I, I believe besides myself, is Honey Honey Man on ... Or Honey Honey Band?

Joe Rogan 54:56 Yeah, I think they're the only ones-

Everlast 54:57 I think they're the only ones.

Joe Rogan 54:58 They're the only ones that have done music on the show, right? Is that ... Not totally true. Is that true? You might be right. You were definitely the first.... and then Gary Clark brought his, uh-

Everlast 55:07 Mm.

Joe Rogan 55:07 ... guitar, but we just chilled.

Everlast 55:09 I'm a huge fan of that dude.

Joe Rogan 55:10 I think Sturgill brought his guitar the first time. He might not even brought his guitar the first time.

Everlast 55:15 Sturgill Simpson?

Joe Rogan 55:15 Sturgill, yeah.

Everlast 55:16 Oh, I hung out with him once at a-

Joe Rogan 55:17 He's got a new song, yeah.

Everlast 55:18 ... at a sneaker shop in, uh, on Melrose.

Joe Rogan 55:20 They have a new song that he just released. I... His new album is fucking incredible. I got a chance-

Everlast 55:25 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 55:25 ... to listen to it in advance before it's released, and they, they just released something on YouTube. It's like this Japanese anime with, uh... What is the, what's the, the name of the actual video so people can find it on YouTube? Sing a- Sing Along. Sing Along. It's a fucking amazing song, but the video is cool as shit, man. It's all this Japanese anime. So he did all of this, uh... They did, like, all these crazy animations. He's... It's like a film that takes place while the album plays.

Everlast 55:56 Oh, shit. That's dope.

Joe Rogan 55:57 Yeah, so it's all coordinated to the songs. I mean-

Everlast 56:01 I'll have to check it out.

Joe Rogan 56:01 ... he's been working on this shit forever. He's been flying back and forth to Japan and LA. I mean, this is a, a labor of love that's really-

Everlast 56:10 No, I like dude's style.

Joe Rogan 56:11 ... incredible.

Everlast 56:12 I, I met him, like I said, at his, uh... My buddy owns a sneaker shop on Melrose, and he was, I guess, a bit of a sneaker head himself, so-

Joe Rogan 56:17 Oh, really?

Everlast 56:18 ... we, we politicked one day and-

Joe Rogan 56:19 Dude.

Everlast 56:19 ... talked some shit.

Joe Rogan 56:20 Sturgill, he's one of my favorite people.

Everlast 56:21 Yeah, I like hi... I like the style that, uh-

Joe Rogan 56:23 I love that dude.

Everlast 56:23 ... the music, the, the country kind of outlaw-ish, like, but, like, big band-ish stuff he's doing.

Joe Rogan 56:27 Yeah, you know what I love about that guy?

Everlast 56:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:29 He didn't even try to go for it as a professional musician until he was, like, 36. His wife talked him into it. His wife was like, "You know, you don't suck." That's, like, what she said to him. (laughs)

Everlast 56:41 (laughs) That's, that's, that's gr... That's high praise.

Joe Rogan 56:44 And she's like, "You're fucking good." And he's... And he went for it because of-

Everlast 56:47 From somebody who wakes up with you and goes to bed with you and says to you, "You don't suck." I mean, that's a-

Joe Rogan 56:51 Yeah.

Everlast 56:51 ... that's high praise, you know?

Joe Rogan 56:52 Yeah, but he had, like, crazy jobs, like railroad worker, shit like that, like did a bunch of, like, regular jobs, and just was writing music and singing music, and then she convinced him to go for it. Yeah, he's an unusual character, man. This stuff... This... All this new stuff is different. I... It's like he used to be... You would think of him as country, like you can't even... You don't even know what to say now. Like, this new stuff is not country. It's wild though. It's really good.

Everlast 57:19 I'll have to check it out.

Joe Rogan 57:20 Yeah, it's like, it's a... This kinda hybrid rock thing he's doing, but it's pretty fucking badass. It says, "Waylon, Waylon had sex with Queens of the Stone Age while the Black Keys watched."

Everlast 57:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:37 That's the first comment on the video. Who said that? Who's- It's top- ... name that guy? It's top, top comment, Shelby Reilly. Shelby Reilly? Yeah. Congrats.

Everlast 57:43 Congrats, you won.

Joe Rogan 57:44 You won the internet for the day.

Everlast 57:46 For the day.

Joe Rogan 57:46 That is exactly what it sounds like.

Everlast 57:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:48 It's really good stuff, man.

Everlast 57:49 I'ma check it out.

Joe Rogan 57:49 He's a beast.

Everlast 57:50 Sing Along, you said that was called?

Joe Rogan 57:51 Yeah.

Everlast 57:51 I'ma check it out.

Joe Rogan 57:52 Now he's doing-

Everlast 57:53 Absolutely.

Joe Rogan 57:54 ... he's doing weird shit, going to Japanese anime.

Everlast 57:55 That's the only thing you do, man. It's, you know... And I don't... You know, weird shit in the sense of, like, you know, shit that excites you. So it's-

Joe Rogan 58:02 Yes.

Everlast 58:02 ... this is like, you know... You know, don't make... I'm not... I've never tried to make the same thing twice, you know? 'Cause it's like I wanna be excited. I don't wanna be scared to fail, you know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 58:11 Yeah.

Everlast 58:11 I wanna, I wanna be like, you know, "Oh, that didn't work. (inhales deeply) Next time." You know?

Joe Rogan 58:16 Yeah. Well, you, you've always switched shit up. That's one of the more interesting things about you, is like when, when you were doing What It's Like and when you, you switched up to, like, Whitey Ford Sings the Blues, everybody was like, "Whoa. Like, what is... This is, this is cr... This is The Jump Around guy? This is The House of Pain guy?" But it, it, it was, uh... It felt so easy to digest for most people 'cause this is before I knew you, and I was like, "This is so easy..." Because it's so authentic. Like, it's very obvious that this was-

Everlast 58:49 Thank you.

Joe Rogan 58:49 ... the kinda music that you were writing was, like, music that, like, came from your feelings and your soul. It was like, "Wow, this is real shit."

Everlast 58:56 Yeah, it was 20, 20 years ago.

Joe Rogan 58:58 Dude, What It's Like was a classic.

Everlast 59:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:02 That was a classic. That was one of those songs was like, "That's a heartfelt song. That's a soul-filled song." You know? "That's, like, a universal song."

Everlast 59:12 Yeah, I went to, uh, New York. I had left House of Pain and went to New York with a buddy of mine, and was just kinda sleeping on his couch, and he had a guitar there. I started strumming it one night and singing these little words, and he came bursting out of the, his room in the back, like, "What the fuck is that?"

Joe Rogan 59:32 (laughs)

Everlast 59:32 And kinda was like, "We're recording that tomorrow." We were making a rap record. I was, like, there to, like, just kinda further, you know, the rap career, and nobody really knew I played guitar and stuff like that a little bit, so... But it was his, hi- hi- his encouragement that definitely came back, like when he was like... I think he was with a broad back there, and he just heard the song and jumped (laughs) like-

Joe Rogan 59:51 Wow.

Everlast 59:52 ... "What the fuck is that?" You know what I mean? And, and so the next day they basically forced me to record it, so I had to finish right. I had... Wrote it, like, that night. I had... I think I had the first part, the whole liquor store, guy at the liquor store thing.

Joe Rogan 1:00:04 Yeah.

Everlast 1:00:05 But I didn't really have anything else, but he heard that part and was like, "Yo, we, you need to finish that."

Joe Rogan 1:00:10 When you get those ideas, when they come to you, what do, what does that feel like? Does it feel like, like a gift comes out of the universe and all this stuff comes out of your mouth?

Everlast 1:00:17 A lot of the times, the really good ones, yeah. You know what I mean? I, I mean, I, wh- what blows my mind, and I'm gonna flip it on you real quick, is, is the, the k- the k- the comic art arc of you get to work this thing out for a whole long time, and if you're really successful on your level type thing, then you shoot a special and that joke kinda goes away. You can't-

Joe Rogan 1:00:41 Yeah, it's done.

Everlast 1:00:41 You don't really get to tell that anymore.

Joe Rogan 1:00:43 Different.

Everlast 1:00:43 And that blows my mind because, like, my whole thing is, like, work this thing out and build this thing that I can go out and play every night for the rest of my life. So, like, you're... You know what I mean? Like, so all the kudos being thrown back and forth, when I look at you or any amazing comedian that just turns it around and every year, two years is belting out these fucking funny ass specials, and then, like, you can't do that anymore. Like-

1:01:08 ... you know, unless you're Andrew Dice Clay with the little fucking Hickory Dickory Dock-

Joe Rogan 1:01:12 Oh.

Everlast 1:01:12 ... you know, and you got the little, you know-

Joe Rogan 1:01:14 Yeah. He's the only guy ever that you wanna hear the old stuff over and over and over again. Like-

Everlast 1:01:18 Or I don't know if you-

Joe Rogan 1:01:18 ... f- you'll see a whole set of just rhymes.

Everlast 1:01:20 Or even like, um, like now there's like... Are you familiar with this, with Little Duval?

Joe Rogan 1:01:24 Yes.

Everlast 1:01:24 The comedian?

Joe Rogan 1:01:25 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Everlast 1:01:25 Like, you know, the whole singing like. I mean, he's like turning-

Joe Rogan 1:01:27 Yeah.

Everlast 1:01:27 ... it in, he's flipping this like whole script on-

Joe Rogan 1:01:30 Yes.

Everlast 1:01:30 ... what comedy and music and entertainment is right now.

Joe Rogan 1:01:33 Mm-hmm.

Everlast 1:01:33 He's kind of doing some really fucking interesting shit.

Joe Rogan 1:01:35 He's also got a bunch of crazy shit going on in his Instagram. His Instagram's hilarious too. He's got something that I need him to explain to-

Everlast 1:01:40 It's one of my favorite follows in the universe.

Joe Rogan 1:01:42 City Boys with Country Boys. (laughs)

Everlast 1:01:43 Yeah. No, no, he start like, he starts cultural phenomena.

Joe Rogan 1:01:47 Yes. Yes.

Everlast 1:01:48 Period.

Joe Rogan 1:01:48 Yes.

Everlast 1:01:48 Like-

Joe Rogan 1:01:49 No, no, no, no.

Everlast 1:01:49 Like, he sets shit off.

Joe Rogan 1:01:50 Yeah.

Everlast 1:01:50 Like I've watched him say some shit on his Instagram-

Joe Rogan 1:01:54 Mm-hmm.

Everlast 1:01:54 ... and will it into existence, and it becomes like a trend or a-

Joe Rogan 1:01:58 Mm-hmm.

Everlast 1:01:58 ... the songs he's written.

Joe Rogan 1:01:59 Yes.

Everlast 1:01:59 It's just like, it's amazing.

Joe Rogan 1:02:02 He's special. He's special.

Everlast 1:02:02 It's like really like... No, it's, it's a, it's a really... Uh, it's one of my favorite follows, honestly.

Joe Rogan 1:02:06 Yeah, he's something special. Andrew Schulz really made me take a... I, I mean, I, I knew about that song Smile, Bitch.

Everlast 1:02:13 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:13 I actually found out about that song because Style Bender, Style Bender, uh, would come out to fight with Smile, Bitch. And, uh, he came out to fight with him, then he talked about it, he goes, "Uh, I love Little Duval." I'm like, "Oh, let me check out Little Duval." And I was like, "Goddamn, this guy's good." And then Andrew Schulz says, "Yo, he's a comedian," and he goes, "He's one of the most insightful and brilliant people I've ever met." And just like almost like a, a naturally curious guy-

Everlast 1:02:36 We need to get him on.

Joe Rogan 1:02:37 Yeah. We're working on it.

Everlast 1:02:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:39 We're gonna make it happen.

Everlast 1:02:39 That, I'm... Oh, that'd be amazing.

Joe Rogan 1:02:41 But Schulz is a, Schulz is a wizard.

Everlast 1:02:43 It's gonna be great.

Joe Rogan 1:02:43 If Schulz tells me that someone's good, I'll, I'll buy it.

Everlast 1:02:46 Yeah, and it's like... And he was early internet like, dude. Like, he's been working these-

Joe Rogan 1:02:51 Mm-hmm.

Everlast 1:02:51 ... like internet angles, kinda like you. Got in really early, saw something he liked and, and, you know?

Joe Rogan 1:02:55 He's got his own thing going on-

Everlast 1:02:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:56 ... with, uh... He's got his own, own thing going on with that whole City Boys, Country Boys thing. (laughs)

Everlast 1:03:01 But it's... That's all in relation to the songs he's got.

Joe Rogan 1:03:03 I know, I know, I know, I know.

Everlast 1:03:04 You hear me?

Joe Rogan 1:03:04 But it's hilarious how people like, he... It's like a daily thing.

Everlast 1:03:06 The points back and forth.

Joe Rogan 1:03:07 Back and forth points. (laughs)

Everlast 1:03:07 Oh, man. Anybody... If you don't follow him, go.

Joe Rogan 1:03:10 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go follow him.

Everlast 1:03:11 Go.

Joe Rogan 1:03:11 He's one of the best follows.

Everlast 1:03:13 Little Duval-

Joe Rogan 1:03:13 Yeah.

Everlast 1:03:13 ... just shoot me some tickets to your next show in LA. I'm a huge fan. That's that... I mean, go... However, millions on this show-

Joe Rogan 1:03:19 Yeah.

Everlast 1:03:19 ... follow Little Duval-

Joe Rogan 1:03:20 And follow Andrew Schulz too.

Everlast 1:03:20 ... 'cause he's hilarious and funny, and yes, sir.

Joe Rogan 1:03:23 Follow him to make sure that he's not really shadow banned anymore.

Everlast 1:03:26 Th- that shit's crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:03:27 (laughs)

Everlast 1:03:27 I got a friend who's going through that right now. Like, where like they just disappear-

Joe Rogan 1:03:31 Oh.

Everlast 1:03:31 ... after like shit when you search for him.

Joe Rogan 1:03:32 Mm-hmm. He's up there now.

Everlast 1:03:34 Ah, they're ghosting you.

Joe Rogan 1:03:36 Apparently.

Everlast 1:03:36 I feel like it's-

Joe Rogan 1:03:36 Oh, he's there? You can find him? Yeah. Okay, good. Yeah.

Everlast 1:03:39 There you are.

Joe Rogan 1:03:39 Oh.

Everlast 1:03:39 Andrew Schulz.

Joe Rogan 1:03:39 I'm telling you, man, you couldn't find him for a while.

Everlast 1:03:41 There you go. Andrew Schulz.

Joe Rogan 1:03:42 It was tricky. It was very tricky. Very tricky back in the day.

Everlast 1:03:49 Yeah, awesome. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:03:56 Little Duval. So what do you wanna do today, man? You got a DJ?

Everlast 1:04:00 I brought a