Joe Rogan Experience #1346 - Zuby

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   And we're live. What's…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:03

      And we're live. What's going on, brother? How are you?

   2. ZUZuby0:05

      I'm awesome, man. It's good to be here.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:07

      Good to have you here, man.

   4. ZUZuby0:08

      Thank you.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:08

      I've never had a guy come and wear his own hat and his own T-shirt. You're number one. You're the first.

   6. ZUZuby0:13

      I'm, I'm surprised by that

   7. JVJamie Vernon0:14

      (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      ... given how many podcasts you've done, but, uh, that's how I roll. I don't know if anybody's ever come and wearing their own shirt. Jamie?

   9. JVJamie Vernon0:20

      Mm-hmm.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:20

       Any thoughts?

   11. JVJamie Vernon0:22

       Someone has to have.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:23

       Someone has to have, I just can't recall it.

   13. JVJamie Vernon0:25

       Yeah, I don't know off the top of my head.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       Definitely no one has worn their own hat and their own shirt.

   15. ZUZuby0:28

       Oh, yeah?

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       Maybe Eddie's worn his own shirt, but that's a 10th Planet shirt, that doesn't totally count.

   17. ZUZuby0:33

       It's a shirt with my face on it, too, so...

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       That's a triple whammy.

   19. ZUZuby0:36

       (laughs)

   20. JVJamie Vernon0:37

       Ari?

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       Ari?

   22. JVJamie Vernon0:38

       Wanna get a new shirt or something?

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       Maybe.

   24. JVJamie Vernon0:40

       Maybe. I don't know.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       I don't think so. Maybe. Anyway, what's going on, man? How long you here for?

   26. ZUZuby0:45

       I'm all good, man. I'm in LA for two weeks. It's my very first time here, so I just got here two days ago, so just kinda soaking it in.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       What's the mind fuck like? It's crazy, huh?

   28. ZUZuby0:54

       It's weird, man.

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       (laughs)

   30. ZUZuby0:55

       I feel like, uh, I was driving ar- I was driving around just in an Uber, and it feels like GTA. I think more like GTA feels like LA, 'cause that's what it's based on. But, uh, it was just kinda trippy. And, uh-
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Wow. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      outstanding interest awaited patiently for the construction of said airport.

   2. ZUZuby15:06

      Wow.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:07

      Wow.

   4. ZUZuby15:08

      That's the kind of thing you can only pull off once, huh?

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:10

      Yeah.

   6. ZUZuby15:11

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:11

      If you can get that guy again, you're, you're a wizard.

   8. ZUZuby15:13

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:13

      I just saw a guy that got scammed and there was a documentary about it. It was, it was a television show rather. It was really sad because he was a dude who's an older gentleman, looked like he was in his 60s, and he was convinced that there was this woman who was, uh, you know, his, his love, and she lived in Europe. And he traveled there, and he was sending her money and the whole deal, and he traveled there twice-

   10. ZUZuby15:34

       Mm-hmm.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:34

       ... to meet her. And both times, she couldn't see him. Both times.

   12. ZUZuby15:38

       Oh, wow.

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:39

       But he still believed. And his daughter was like, "I k- I don't know what the fuck to do. This guy really believes." And you could see he had this lost look in his eye, like he really believed that there was a woman over there that was corresponding with him back and forth and he was sending her money. Like, he was sending her a lot of money, like-

   14. ZUZuby15:55

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:55

       ... I think it was more than $100,000 if I remember correctly. And he really believed that she was gonna be there for him, and then when he went over there, something came up and-

   16. ZUZuby16:04

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan16:04

       ... she, she couldn't meet him and...

   18. ZUZuby16:06

       Yeah, it's, it's weird. With, with, with stuff like this, I always feel like in, in some way, you kind of feel sad for the person, but in another, you're kind of like, "What, what were you thinking?" Like, how do you-

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:16

       How do you bounce back from that? Like, people hit some lows.

   20. ZUZuby16:18

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:19

       Peop- people hit some lows in life. How do you bounce back from thinking that there's a girl in Europe that's gonna be your love, and sending her $100,000 and traveling over there twice-

   22. ZUZuby16:31

       Mm-hmm.

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:32

       ... and getting duped both times, and then how do you bounce back from that?

   24. ZUZuby16:36

       I think the first thing you should do is not tell anybody.

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:39

       His daughter-

   26. ZUZuby16:39

       Like, take, take, take the L without, just quietly.

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:42

       (laughs) Take the L.

   28. ZUZuby16:43

       (laughs) Just, just take it, take it quietly and, and privately and don't, uh, don't tell people.

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:47

       His daughter knew about it.

   30. ZUZuby16:49

       Okay.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Yeah. …

   1. ZUZuby30:00

      totally blindsided by the Brexit vote in the same way that a lot of people, I imagine, who live in Los Angeles and New York were blindsided by the Trump presidency.

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:08

      Yeah.

   3. ZUZuby30:08

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:09

      Yeah. Do you, have you ever seen the girl with the sock hat on and the glasses-

   5. ZUZuby30:12

      Oh, yes, of course.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:13

      ... on her knees?

   7. ZUZuby30:13

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:13

      I've seen her.

   9. ZUZuby30:14

      Yeah, I wa- I watch (laughs) that when I'm, when I'm feeling a little down, you know?

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:17

       (laughs)

   11. ZUZuby30:17

       I watch the Trump reaction video.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:19

       That seems to b- sort of embody-... or the beginning-

   13. ZUZuby30:23

       (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:24

       ... of, of the chaos that has ensued because things were kinda squirrelly before Trump was elected.

   15. ZUZuby30:30

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:30

       But now they're just off the reservation.

   17. ZUZuby30:32

       Yeah. Well, that's part of how he got elected. I mean, I was w- I remember in 2015 before he even won the Republican nomination, and I was talking to people, both friends and family, and saying, "I think he has a good chance of winning." And people were looking at me like I was, like I was smoking something.

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:46

       Yeah.

   19. ZUZuby30:47

       Uh, I'm annoyed I didn't put any money on it because at the time-

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:50

       Was there gambling, online gambling for it?

   21. ZUZuby30:51

       Yeah, I think the first time, at the time I w- first said it, I think it was, I wanna say like 40 to 1 or 50 to 1 or something ridiculous like that. Um-

   22. JRJoe Rogan30:59

       I called it on my Netflix special and people were going, "Get the fuck out."

   23. ZUZuby31:02

       Yeah. (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:03

       "You're crazy." I'm like, "We are that close to President Trump."

   25. ZUZuby31:06

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:06

       And they're like, " (screams) "

   27. ZUZuby31:07

       Yeah. Well, you, you travel the country, right? So-

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:09

       Yes.

   29. ZUZuby31:09

       ... I think y- your perspective is gonna be a lot more balanced and actually accurate than-

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:15

       Well, also, I-
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Well, backlash, man. Backlash.…

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

   2. ZUZuby45:00

      Well, backlash, man. Backlash.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:02

      Toutism, political correctness.

   4. ZUZuby45:03

      I mean, I un- I un- I understand it completely. I understand it completely. I mean... Yeah. A l- a l- a lot of it... Like there are a lot of different factors, but that's a pretty key one, and just, you know, the, the condescension from people in certain cities about the rest of the country, or all the other cities. I mean, you see that... It's the same thing in the US and in the UK, like I was saying. I mean, when you've got people even just referring to all of Middle America as what they call flyover country-

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:32

      Yeah.

   6. ZUZuby45:32

      ... I'm like, "Dude, you can't call, you can't say that-

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:34

      The thing is-

   8. ZUZuby45:34

      ... and then expect those people to vote for you."

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:36

      ... it's not even just that. It's expanded even further-

   10. ZUZuby45:39

       Mm-hmm.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:40

       ... and the best evidence is Dave Chappelle.

   12. ZUZuby45:41

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:42

       Dave Chappelle's recent Sticks and Stones Netflix documentary-

   14. ZUZuby45:45

       Mm-hmm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:45

       ... for whatever reason, Rotten Tomatoes thought it would be a good idea to only have it reviewed by five super progressive critics.

   16. ZUZuby45:54

       Mm-hmm.

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:55

       Only critics.

   18. ZUZuby45:55

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan45:55

       They closed it off to the public.

   20. ZUZuby45:57

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan45:58

       And it got 0% on Rotten Tomatoes.

   22. ZUZuby46:00

       Mm-hmm.

   23. JRJoe Rogan46:00

       They then opened it to the public, and it got 99%.

   24. ZUZuby46:05

       Of course.

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:05

       If that doesn't show a crazy disparity between-

   26. ZUZuby46:09

       Mm-hmm.

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:09

       ... first of all, the idea that you're gonna suppress it. Like you're gonna say it's 0% so no one's gonna watch it-

   28. ZUZuby46:14

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:14

       ... and we're gonna shut Dave Chappelle down.

   30. ZUZuby46:16

       Mm-hmm.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:08:43

   Yes. …

   1. ZUZuby1:00:00

      And, you know, you lose ... So a phone ca- ... I mean, real life is the best, and then second to that probably a video chat. After that, a phone call.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:09

      Yes.

   3. ZUZuby1:00:09

      After that, a text. After that, a tweet. And the further you abstract away from it, you just lose-

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:16

      Yeah.

   5. ZUZuby1:00:16

      ... more and more of the actual communication 'cause you can't read any body language now. There's no intonation in the words.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:22

      Yes.

   7. ZUZuby1:00:22

      You can't tell ... I could say something now and it's like, you know, you say something with a smile on your face, "Oh, it's, Joe is joking."

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:27

      Yeah.

   9. ZUZuby1:00:27

      But if you s- tweet those exact same words, one person will read it and be like, "Okay, I think he's jo- ... I think he tweeted that with a smile on his face."

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:34

       Right.

   11. ZUZuby1:00:35

       Someone else is like, "No, that's, that's dead serious. Like that's, uh-"

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:38

       Yeah.

   13. ZUZuby1:00:38

       "... that's something crazy he's saying there." And nobody really knows. And then because it's all public ... I mean, it, it's ... Twitter's weird because there's not-... it, it's like just going into a room and just ... full of people and just shouting something.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:49

       Yes.

   15. ZUZuby1:00:50

       It's not like a forum where it's like, "Okay, this is the topic. We're talking about this right now."

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:54

       Mm-hmm.

   17. ZUZuby1:00:54

       Twitter's just like, "Uh, this is what I think about ..." anything, and you just throw it out there, and then you wait for people to, people to come back with stuff. It's very bizarre.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:01:02

       You know, what's interesting is when someone tries to be ... someone tries to establish a narrative about themselves on Twitter.

   19. ZUZuby1:01:09

       Mm-hmm.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:01:09

       Like, "Hey, listen, as a happily married man who's a Christian," this and that and that. Like, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, who are you talking to?

   21. ZUZuby1:01:18

       (laughs) Are you, are you shouting this out to the r- Are you trying to, are you trying to describe yourself for people so people have a certain way of viewing you? Oh, yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:01:26

       'Cause that shit ain't gonna work.

   23. ZUZuby1:01:27

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:27

       They're immediately gonna go, "Why are you talking like this? What kind of person says these things? What kind of person, like, tries to establish a narrative about them?"

   25. ZUZuby1:01:36

       Hmm. Well, they do it before they even talk. I mean, people do that with their Twitter bio.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:40

       Oh, yeah.

   27. ZUZuby1:01:41

       People do it with their bio.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:42

       Yeah.

   29. ZUZuby1:01:42

       I mean, some people'll put in, you know, "This is my species-"

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:44

       My pronouns.

Episode duration: 2:10:54