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Joe Rogan Experience #1349 - David Sinclair

David Sinclair, Ph.D., A.O. is a Professor in the Department of Genetics and co-Director of the Paul F. Glenn Center for the Biology of Aging at Harvard Medical School. His new book "Lifespan: Why We Age And Why We Don't Have To" is now available.

Joe RoganhostDavid Sinclairguest
Sep 10, 20192h 19mWatch on YouTube ↗

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

David Sinclair Explains How We Might Slow, Stop, Reverse Aging

  1. Harvard longevity researcher David Sinclair joins Joe Rogan to discuss the latest science on why we age and how elements of that process may be slowed or even reversed. They cover drug combinations like metformin, DHEA, and human growth hormone that appear to reduce biological age on the Horvath epigenetic clock, as well as Sinclair’s own regimen of NMN, resveratrol, metformin, and lifestyle interventions. Sinclair explains emerging tools such as epigenetic clocks, senolytic drugs that clear “zombie” cells, and gene therapies that can rejuvenate tissues like the retina in mice. The conversation also weaves in practical issues—exercise, fasting, sleep, diet, alcohol—and broader ethical, medical, and societal questions around extending human healthspan.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Biological age can now be quantified and may be reversible.

The Horvath epigenetic clock reads chemical marks on DNA (especially cytosine methylation) to estimate biological age and mortality risk. Early human data (e.g., a small metformin–HGH–DHEA trial) suggest those epigenetic markers can be shifted toward a younger profile, implying aging itself is at least partially reversible.

NAD-boosting compounds and sirtuin activators are central to Sinclair’s approach.

Sinclair’s lab links aging to declining NAD and sirtuin activity. He takes NMN (an NAD precursor) and high-dose resveratrol (with fat for absorption) to stimulate cellular defense pathways, improve mitochondrial function, and mimic benefits of fasting and exercise—though he stresses human longevity proof is still lacking.

Metformin may aid longevity but can blunt athletic gains, so timing matters.

Some studies show metformin improves metabolic health and potentially lifespan, but it can dampen exercise-induced mitochondrial adaptations and performance. Sinclair’s pragmatic strategy is to “pulse” metformin—avoiding it on hard training and recovery days, using it on sedentary days—to try to capture metabolic benefits without athletic tradeoffs.

Clearing senescent “zombie” cells is a promising anti-aging strategy.

Senescent cells accumulate with age and secrete inflammatory factors that damage tissues and promote disease. In mice, genetically or pharmacologically removing these cells (senolytics) delays multiple aspects of aging and improves function; human trials (e.g., for osteoarthritis) are already under way.

Gene therapies and cellular reprogramming could restore lost function in specific tissues.

Using viral vectors and a subset of Yamanaka factors, Sinclair’s group has rejuvenated old mouse retinas and even regrown damaged optic nerves, restoring vision and resetting epigenetic age. They aim to move this into human eye trials within a few years, with longer-term ambitions for spinal cord and other tissues.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

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What this study suggests is that it's not just about slowing down aging, but one day we could be 80, but biologically 30.

David Sinclair

We’re right on the cutting edge of human knowledge. We don’t actually know what the best thing is.

David Sinclair

Don't give me the argument that aging is natural, therefore it's acceptable.

David Sinclair

As time goes on, you understand how you're interfacing with the world. You communicate with people better. You know how to get by.

Joe Rogan

There'll be a time when you can't really tell how old somebody is, especially when we figure out how to reprogram the body to be young again.

David Sinclair

Epigenetic clocks and measuring biological vs chronological ageMetformin, HGH, DHEA, NMN, resveratrol and NAD-boosting strategiesTradeoffs between performance, exercise, and longevity drugsSenescent “zombie” cells and emerging senolytic therapiesGene therapy, CRISPR, and cellular reprogramming to reverse agingLifestyle interventions: fasting, diet, exercise, heat/cold exposure, sleepEthical and societal implications of radical life extension

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