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Joe Rogan Experience #1351 - Dan Aykroyd

Dan Aykroyd, CM OOnt is a Canadian-American actor, producer, comedian, musician and filmmaker who was an original member of the "Not Ready for Prime Time Players" on Saturday Night Live.

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Sep 13, 20192h 20mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:022:16

    Niagara tightrope stunts and podcast juggling (with oranges and knives)

    1. JR

      And we're live with Dan Aykroyd, cutting oranges and doing a podcast at the same time.

    2. DA

      Yes. It's, uh... It's kind of like, uh, walking from the... the tightrope, uh, between two buildings, chewing gum, and uh, and looking up at the... at the ceiling. Y- have you ever heard of the... the guy who, uh... He was a tightrope walker at the turn of the century, um, and he was very famous. Uh, I think... I, I forget. He was a French guy. He walked over Niagara Falls several times.

    3. JR

      I know who you're talking about. Yeah.

    4. DA

      Uh, I... I... But, he was a French, uh, tightrope walker, and one of the things he did, Joe, was one... one morning, he said, "I'm gonna do this, but I'm gonna take my manager on my back. I'm gonna take a small stove, and I'm gonna cook him breakfast in the middle of the falls, right over the falls."

    5. JR

      Oh, shit.

    6. DA

      And this is recorded of him having... A- can you imagine the manager, you know, the conversation there? "Okay. You're gonna climb on my back. We're going to the middle of the falls. I'm gonna make you breakfast." "I love you. I love handling you. But no... What? Uh, really? I have to do this?" So, he took his manager on the back, out to the falls, cooked him eggs right there, and then walked to the other end of the falls with a stove, his manager all on his back.

    7. JR

      (laughs)

    8. DA

      I... This is like... You know, these are... these are feats that, uh, that we hear about.

    9. JR

      Did he cook in the middle?

    10. DA

      He cooked in the middle of the falls.

    11. JR

      Oh.

    12. DA

      He cooked b-... He cooked eggs, and I think flapjacks, and, uh, all while, uh, handling his manager on his back, and handling the stove, and the whole thing. Yeah.

    13. JR

      There's the images of it.

    14. DA

      There... There he is. There yet, there. There. There's the manager. Look.

    15. JR

      Oh, my goodness.

    16. DA

      Yeah. Isn't that funny?

    17. JR

      Where's he cooking?

    18. DA

      Yeah. Blondie, that was his name. Yeah.

    19. JR

      I wanna see him cooking.

    20. DA

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      They must have a photo.

    22. DA

      They've got to have a photo.

    23. JR

      Is that a wheelbarrow up there?

    24. DA

      Yeah. Yeah, a wheelbarrow. He had the manager on his back. There he is, the manager on the back, you see, taking him across.

    25. JR

      Jesus Christ.

    26. DA

      Yeah.

    27. JR

      That's how you earn your keep as a manager.

    28. DA

      (laughs) I... I know. And... And... And I don't know whether... There. There he is. Look at the table-

    29. JR

      Oh, my God.

    30. DA

      ... and the chairs. Yeah.

  2. 2:163:29

    Niagara Falls lore: deaths, daredevils, and local history

    1. DA

      Yeah. 1,000 people died going over Niagara Falls, many of them suicides, and many of them, uh, you know, just, uh... just that... that went over in rafts, and that kid-

    2. JR

      Yeah.

    3. DA

      ... Roger who went over in a life jacket, and kids in barr-... uh, and people in barrels, who were actually intending to go over the falls and wanted to float down that far, and so-

    4. JR

      One guy survived. He survived in a barrel.

    5. DA

      A guy in the life jacket survived, and a couple of them in the barrels survived. But the... The tribe of, uh, of the Niagara Indians who lived at the... uh, the Indigenous natives who lived at the bottom of the falls were overweight. And why were they overweight? Because they didn't run through the forest hunting. They took all of the meat that came through the Niagara River and went over the falls and was dashed at the bottom of the falls, the bears, the wolves, the moose, all of them who... p-... who drowned in the falls, all this... this wildlife. And they just harvested the meat off the rocks at the bottom of the falls.

    6. JR

      Oh, so they would just wait.

    7. DA

      They would just wait. Exactly, yeah.

    8. JR

      Wow.

    9. DA

      Yeah.

    10. JR

      How many things get stuck? That would seem like you'd be waiting a lot.

    11. DA

      Uh-

    12. JR

      Oh, man. These people- 40 people every year fall over, so-

    13. DA

      'Cause-

    14. JR

      Every year right now? Yeah.

    15. DA

      Yeah. Wow. Wow.

    16. JR

      Oh, my God. 40?

    17. DA

      But I love Upstate New York. I love Upstate-

    18. JR

      It's gorgeous.

    19. DA

      I... I love Niagara Falls, New York. It's beautiful, um, architecture from the '30s and stuff.

    20. JR

      Yeah.

    21. DA

      And, uh, it's so... it's so neat up there. Yeah.

    22. JR

      Yeah. It's a gorgeous part of the country.

  3. 3:2911:58

    Crystal Head Vodka: design, purity claims, and “no additives” pitch

    1. DA

      Do you mind if I make a non-additive-

    2. JR

      Please do.

    3. DA

      ... vodka drink here for us? Yeah.

    4. JR

      This is your vodka company, and you base it on... I know you are a... a huge fan of extraterrestrials, and one of the things I'm very excited to talk to you about is that. But this is, uh-

    5. DA

      Sure. I brought you a book for... on all of that. Yeah.

    6. JR

      Cool. This is based, uh, on the crystal skulls, right? This is-

    7. DA

      Well, yeah. The package is based-

    8. JR

      Look how gorgeous that is, folks.

    9. DA

      Uh, package is based on the... on the crystal heads-

    10. JR

      Oh.

    11. DA

      ... because we wanted to s- sell the idea of purity, and you can see it's a nice, smiling little... happy little skull. It was designed by John Alexander, the great Texas artist. Uh, here's our, uh... This is our wheat version. We have corn in here, we have wheat in here. And there's no cleaner vodka, I must say, on the planet. We go to great lengths to make this a clean product. Not only is the bottle beautiful, but the unique fluid inside is what has got us to 70 countries, over 50 million bottles sold. We've won 12 gold medals. We won the Pridexpo in Moscow for excellent taste out of 400 beverages. And what we do is we take, uh, peaches and cream corn from Chatham, Ontario, and we put it in the truck in the mash, and we ship it 95% al-... uh, alcohol volume, uh, at that point. And we take it over, and we put it in the ferry boat, and we bring it over at the distillery in Newfoundland, Canada, the last... one of the last state-owned stills in the world. And why are we there? Because the water from the original Wisconsin glacier is-

    12. JR

      Mm.

    13. DA

      ... under Newfoundland. So-

    14. JR

      Ah.

    15. DA

      ... water is an... Vodka's an Old Russian word for water. And great-

    16. JR

      Is it really?

    17. DA

      Yeah. And great vodkas have sweet water. Um, I'm just gonna... I want you to just take a sip, and then I'm gonna make a nice crystal drop.

    18. JR

      Oh, man. So, here we go.

    19. DA

      But just, here's our notes.

    20. JR

      Cheers, sir.

    21. DA

      Just a sip. Yeah, cheers. Yeah, indeed. Hey, to our daughters.

    22. JR

      To everybody's daughters.

    23. DA

      Daughters and sons and daughters.

    24. JR

      How about that? Everybody. Sons, daughters, mothers. It's very good.

    25. DA

      Sweetness. Sweet vanilla, dry, crisp with a kick of heat off the finish are our notes from Anthony Dias Blue. We take that to the distillery in Newfoundland. We use the water there. We do not add flavor packs. Flavor packs are added to lesser vodkas. That's glycerides, sugars, terpenes, and we put them... Uh, they put them in these packages an- uh, and they... they put them into the vodka. We eliminated all of that, and we have no additives at all. This is C2H5O6, just absolute ethyl alcohol, grain alcohol, purified, distilled in... in a carbon filtration system, not the w- w- one with the hose where they just blow it through. No. We... We... We distill and we filter, and we pour it over, uh, Herkimer diamonds.

    26. JR

      Diamonds?

    27. DA

      Yep. Uh-

    28. JR

      You pour it over diamonds?

    29. DA

      We do. We... We pour it over the Herkimer semi-precious stone, and the Herkimer premi-... semi-precious stone is, uh, one of our last purification processes. Now, if you asked a high school professor, "What does pouring alcohol over diamonds do to the alcohol?" They'd probably say, "Well, nothing." But-... our stones, after certain pours, uh, a certain number of pours, they turn yellow. And we have't bleach them, clean them, or replace them. The Herkimer diamond is found in, uh, an- an- an anomalous area, uh, of Upstate New York, also in Afghanistan and Oaxaca, Mexico, uh, they're found. They're, they're little semiprecious double-ended crystals. And people love the taste of the vodka poured over the stones. Now-

    30. JR

      D- is there a chemical reaction that causes the stones to turn yellow, or is it-

  4. 11:5818:47

    The crystal skulls themselves: origin stories vs. museum skepticism

    1. JR

      I wanna talk to you about the, the...... the story of the crystal skulls themselves, 'cause there is this strange-

    2. DA

      (laughs)

    3. JR

      ... sort of, uh, folklore attached to them, and then there's a lot of people that believe that it's all horse shit, and that these were created by modern people and buried underground-

    4. DA

      Mm-hmm. Yep.

    5. JR

      ... in order to-

    6. DA

      Well, my understanding of it, uh, is... There, you go.

    7. JR

      There she is again.

    8. DA

      Yeah, in- indeed. That's just the, the citrus model, the crystal driver. Um, there were 13 heads.

    9. JR

      Ooh, that's good.

    10. DA

      And, uh, and it was purported that the Navajo, the Anasazi, the Mayans, the Aztec ha- each had one. Uh, the most famous one is the, uh, the Mitchell-Hedges skull, which was found in the Yucatan by Anna Mitchell-Hedges. He reached into a cave, she was with her grandfather, it was around 1926, and she reached in and s- there was an oilcloth-covered sp- uh, item in there, and she pulled it out and opened it up, and there was the two-piece detachable jaw, Mitchell-Hedges skull.

    11. JR

      Yeah.

    12. DA

      Beautiful skull. The Hewlett-Packard engineers did a test on it in the '60s. They said it could not have been carved by a lapidary, by m- by tools. It had to have been polished over hundreds of years, over, uh, over centuries, to get to the shape that it was. So they said it was a polished item. Uh, let's see, there's the Mitchell-Hedges skull, the Phyllis Newman skull, named Max. She says-

    13. JR

      But, but wasn't that later decided by some people-

    14. DA

      Well, w-

    15. JR

      ... that this was not the case?

    16. DA

      ... I'm gonna, I'm gonna exactly-

    17. JR

      Yeah, please.

    18. DA

      ... get to that point, because of course, it's, uh, it's important. It doesn't affect my business whether they're fake or not. These were beautiful artifacts and we've recreated it beautifully. But it's nice to know the true story, and I, I have a th- kind of a thought on the theory either way. So there's the Phyllis Newman skull, um, named Max. She has to put it in the closet 'cause it talks to her. There's one of-

    19. JR

      What? Wait, wait.

    20. DA

      They (screech)

    21. JR

      Hit the brakes.

    22. DA

      Uh, Phyllis-

    23. JR

      I'm gonna have to hit the brakes a bunch with you. You're an excellent talker, sir.

    24. DA

      Oh, well, I, you know, I was inoculated with a gramophone needle at birth.

    25. JR

      (laughs) So-

    26. DA

      I could talk a taxi dispatcher into a vow of silence. I could talk an air raid siren to scrap. But, uh-

    27. JR

      (laughs) And you're obviously Canadian 'cause you said slag.

    28. DA

      Yeah. (laughs) There you go.

    29. JR

      And it's like, date a Canadian gal, she'll have that to tell.

    30. DA

      Oh. Well, that's another tangent, Canadian gals and-

  5. 18:4726:08

    Why experts dismiss UFO claims: Neil deGrasse Tyson, professionalism, and evidence standards

    1. DA

      But he... There's no way you can sit down and say, "Neil, Barney and Betty Hill were abducted by a flying saucer in 1957."

    2. JR

      Mm-mm.

    3. DA

      He's not gonna accept that.

    4. JR

      Right. He's not gonna.

    5. DA

      Because, he can't accept that.

    6. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    7. DA

      Because, everything in his training, everything in his knowledge, everything that he knows about physics and science and propulsion in the universe and how to get from place to place, defies, um, the, uh, defies the legend or, or I, I would say, defies the theory that there are, uh, extraterrestrial advanced ships out there. He can't acce- it, it's just, y- you know, he, it would be unprofessional for him to say, "Okay, there's even a possibility that there were abductions." But-

    8. JR

      The Betty and Barney Hill story is very interesting, but there's, there's no real evidence other than their testimony. Is that correct?

    9. DA

      Well, um, there was a stain on Betty's dress. There's her excellent recall. She was not... He was unconscious-

    10. JR

      What was the stain on her dress that's so interesting to you?

    11. DA

      Uh, it was a fluid that they used, uh, in, in, in the testing that, uh, some kind of a fluid, a chemical.

    12. JR

      The alien testing?

    13. DA

      Y- uh, that, that they did when-

    14. JR

      And did-

    15. DA

      They drew ova from her and they drew sperm-

    16. JR

      Oh.

    17. DA

      ... uh, yeah, from him. Now, so there's a book out called Contact by Stanton Friedman, who-

    18. JR

      I read that.

    19. DA

      Uh, yeah, and Kathleen, yep.

    20. JR

      Yeah.

    21. DA

      I'd love to know where the car is, where they, the, the, the Chevy they were driving. Where was that?

    22. JR

      Oh, it disappeared?

    23. DA

      I don't know. I'd have to ask Kathleen where it is. Did they, did it end up-

    24. JR

      Oh, like-

    25. DA

      ... in a junkyard?

    26. JR

      If someone could find it, right.

    27. DA

      'Cause there were marks on the back of the car as well.

    28. JR

      Mm.

    29. DA

      There were trace evidence in the back of the car. You know Ted Phillips is. He goes around the world collecting trace e- evidence and radioactive signatures from sightings and, and, uh, and landings. On the back of the car, there was a couple of marks. But it was Betty's... It's their credibility. Why would they wanna bring this into their lives? And she was conscious, uh, semi-conscious through much of it. And Be- uh, Barney was not, uh, uh, co- conscious. He was unconscious. If you hear the tapes of Ben Simon's interviews with them under hypnosis-

    30. JR

      I've heard them, yeah.

  6. 26:0828:39

    Abduction research and 1950s UFO waves: John Mack, headlines, and Washington 1952

    1. DA

      In New York, The New York Times, uh, is pretty reliable. Ralph Blumenthal and Leslie Kean are reporters for The New York Times, and they've been studying this, uh, phenomenon. They report ver- very credibly on it. I'll tell you how an abductee's experience is related. I attended, uh, an, a lecture at the, uh, Fifth Avenue Medical Institute in, in Manhattan with my wife a few years ago. That would be about 15 years ago. And John Mack was the lecturer. You know, he wrote the book Abduction. He was the Harvard psychiatrist who wrote, uh, Abduction. You can get that up too. Abduction, John Mack.

    2. JR

      Yes, I read that as well.

    3. DA

      Yeah. And so-

    4. JR

      That, that freaked a friend of mine out. She was a very pragmatic, non-UFO-believing person, and she ca- we were working together on news radio, my friend Maura Tierney, and she, uh, came up to me and she goes like, "This book is freaking me the fuck out." And he wrote a second book as well. Didn't he die in a car accident?

    5. DA

      John Mack...

    6. JR

      I believe he died in a car accident.

    7. DA

      Stepped off a curb in, um, a, in, in a, in a small town in England, and he was struck by a, a car.

    8. JR

      Yeah.

    9. DA

      And three other John Macks died the same day in England. So...

    10. JR

      So you think people were whacking John Mack because he knew too much?

    11. DA

      Well, I don't know.

    12. JR

      Let's take 'em all out.

    13. DA

      Again, I was, I was at this lecture, and there were 300 abductees there, that, that... some who he interviewed with, some, some he had not, but who were there for... interested to, to find out about more about their experience. And one guy got up and said... He had one arm, and I don't know whether that was related... I don't think it was related to the experience, but he said, "I'm a Wall Street broker. I'm quite well off. I have a sailboat. I was in Long Island Sound a few years ago, and a blue light hit me, and I had missing time of about five or six hours. But in it, I have fil- filtrated memories of beings addressing me and telling me that I was powerful and influential and I could help the planet survive. And they put me back in my ship and I woke up." And, and, and, and he said, "I'm waiting for them to come back. I want them to come back." And I asked the room, I got up and I said, "Of all of you who've been taken, how many of you would, would want to repeat the experience or have it happen again?" And about half of them said no, no way they'd want it to have, have it happen again. And half said, "Yeah, we'd like that to happen again."

    14. JR

      Half?

    15. DA

      Yeah.

    16. JR

      Yeah.

    17. DA

      Half, yeah.

    18. JR

      Now, I love a good anecdote-

    19. DA

      So Bruce signed this to me-

    20. JR

      Oh, thank you.

    21. DA

      ... and I'm gonna give it to you.

    22. JR

      Oh. Thank you.

    23. DA

      And it's just got great, it's got great headlines from the... you know, from the '50s, uh, which was a massive time for saucers. You know, that famous photo-

    24. JR

      Yes.

    25. DA

      ... of the saucers over the, uh, the Capitol, the glowing lights-

    26. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    27. DA

      ... and the... Yeah.

    28. JR

      Yeah. See if you can find that photo, Jim, 'cause it is quite interesting.

    29. DA

      Uh, it's, uh, July 1952, Washington sightings-

  7. 28:3935:24

    Nukes, Roswell theories, triangle craft, and Bob Lazar credibility clash

    1. JR

      Do you think this was initiated by the detonation of the atomic bombs at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, where they decided, "Okay, these fucking monkeys are doing some stupid shit. We need to go down there and see what's up and see if there's imminent danger to the cosmos. Let's find out what kind of capabilities they have."? 'Cause if you listen to Lazar or if you believe the work of Zecharia Sitchin or any of the people that believe that human beings were engineered-

    2. DA

      Mm-hmm.

    3. JR

      ... that there's... The, the reason why there's this giant leap between us and the rest of the primates on the planet is because something came down and manipulated our genetics.

    4. DA

      Well, the movie Mission to Mars with Tim Robbins, you know, basically it says that, you know.

    5. JR

      Yeah.

    6. DA

      Basically, it's, it shows the face on Mars and that. That is one of NASA employees' favorite movies. Yeah, there they are.

    7. JR

      Yeah.

    8. DA

      Yeah. 1952 UFO incident. Thank you very much.

    9. JR

      Look at that photo. That is a crazy photo.

    10. DA

      Is that beautiful? Come on, let's go here now, folks.

    11. JR

      That's crazy.

    12. DA

      Yeah, that ain't an airplane. That ain't a helicopter.

    13. JR

      No. It's a crazy photograph, and it's from 1952.

    14. DA

      Mm-hmm.

    15. JR

      I mean, the, the special effects back then were incredibly crude.

    16. DA

      No, no, that's-

    17. JR

      This was something that was reported by thousands of people.

    18. DA

      Thousands of people, they jet... they, they scrambled jets from, from Andrews for it and everything.

    19. JR

      As well as the Phoenix Lights. That was another thing.

    20. DA

      The Phoenix Lights is fascinating because-

    21. JR

      Yeah.

    22. DA

      ... you know, um, the... Fife Symington, the governor said I... he saw them, he made fun of it with an alien, uh, m-

    23. JR

      Yeah, but he talked about that afterwards.

    24. DA

      ... dummy. Yeah.

    25. JR

      He was put under pressure to do so.

    26. DA

      Yeah, yeah.

    27. JR

      He's in a movie called... What is it? Um, there's a documentary on Netflix, it's available, that he's in, um, that he talks about the pressure that they put on him to make light of that incident. And he talks about his own personal experiences with seeing something, some sort of triangle-shaped craft that was enormous, the size of several football fields. It was flying overhead, that was completely silent, and how it freaked him out. I think that was him.

    28. DA

      The triangle, the triangle and del- Delta crafts are very, very interesting.

    29. JR

      Yeah.

    30. DA

      But, uh, the, the Tinley Park incidents of the, uh, of the '80s, uh, and, uh, with, um... Sam Oranto was the investigator there from UFON.... these things would park over the family barbecue for about half an hour, and, you know, families in suburbs were looking up at them, the sky being blotted out by these things parking above them. (inhales deeply) So, y- y- I, I think it comes down to they... I don't think these beings... I... Well, Lord Hill Norton said there were 23 different species visiting the planet in 23 different types of ships. I don't think they want a formal relationship with people on Earth. They want an informal, secret relationship. I think they probably have one with elements of the, of black elements of the Air Force and the government. You know who David Sereda is?

  8. 35:241:06:42

    Dan’s personal UFO origin story: family influence, multiple sightings, and a canceled Syfy show

    1. JR

      Well, how did you get involved in this?

    2. DA

      Well, my mother, uh, worked for the, uh, Ministry of Munitions and Supply in World War II, uh, for the minister, and she was, uh, uh, suborned to work with the, uh, aircraft production, uh, for the Hurricane. She was in charge of, uh, working with, uh, getting the Hurricane fuselages built in Canada for, for, for the, for the Hurricane fighter planes, so she was, you know, in the world of aviation. And in 1947, she was walking down Sparks Street in Ottawa, and she looked up in the sky, and she was, sort of said, "Something told me to look up." And she said she saw what looked like a Christmas tree ornament just winking above the street, about 4 or 500 feet, winking on and off, red, green, white, red, green, white. And she thought, "That's odd," you know, and then she looked at it, and she said it just zipped off in the sky and disappeared. And around the house after that point, we always had articles. There's an article, there's a cover of Life magazine with Marilyn Monroe, it talked about flying saucers. There's a cover of Look magazine with Elizabeth Taylor. It, it catalogues the Barney and Betty Hill incident. So whenever one of those articles come up, she always had that at home for me to read, so I kind of, I was interested it from, from then.And I've had four sightings myself, quite vivid. The first one was in Martha's Vineyard. It was 4:00 in the morning. Uh, I got up to take a leak on the balcony there, and I looked up in the sky and about 100,000 feet up, I saw two glowing disks flying in echelon formation.

    3. JR

      You saw this?

    4. DA

      I saw this.

    5. JR

      How old were you?

    6. DA

      I was, uh, what was I? I'm in my 30s, yeah. And so I g- I look up and I see these things, and they're moving, man. They're going from horizon to horizon (swooshing) 20,000 miles an hour. And I, I, I've been in an F5. I've had it in my hands. I've been in a B-25. I know helicopters. I know aviation. I know meteoric bolides. I know what's not a meteor and what is. I know what's a helicopter and what is. I know what's the moon and Venus. Two s- glowing, glowing round objects, 100,000 feet, maybe 20,000 miles an hour, they're doing. Because they went across the sky, like, just in a zigzag formation. So I screamed to my wife, my friends. They got out. The three of us saw it. And I said, you know, and they all knew it was something unusual. That was my first sighting. Okay, now who knows? Okay, meteoric bolide. There are many people that can dispute that that wasn't real, but I, I know what I saw. I know what my friends saw. I know what my wife saw. Those things were moving. They were glowing fast. They were flying in formation, and they were doing, uh, enough speed to get from basically the right side of my eyes to the left side of my eyes-

    7. JR

      Hm.

    8. DA

      ... really fast. The second one was, um, I was, uh, I was in, uh ... So that's, so that's four. I count those two as two, and then the, the, the f- the second one that I saw ... So the one, two. The third one I saw, I was, uh, I was in Montreal, Canada, and I was on the 23rd floor of the Queen Elizabeth Hotel, and this would have been when we were doing Patrón, uh, in Canada, the Patrón Tequila promotion, and that was, would have been in the early 2000s. And, uh, and I looked, um, up and, uh, uh, uh, beyond the window there, and I saw this ... Well, it just looked like an- a, a, an air mattress turned over on its, you know, with, with the, with the bubbles on the bottom. It was huge. It was 150 feet long, 50 feet wide, gray. It was a gray, rainy day in Montreal, broad daylight, and here was this thing at the 23rd story of the hotel. And I'm looking at it, and it moves slowly down Saint Catherine Street and I'm thinking, "Where are the wires? Where are the wires? Where ... It's gotta be a balloon. It's gotta be ... Mon- there's no Thanksgiving Day parade here. What, what, what is that?" And my friends are with me. "What is that?" And it come along and just parked outside the window, and we looked at it, big gray thing with these bulbs underneath, and then it slowly turned and we saw the full length of it, and then it went around the corner. We ran out in the hall and we just watched it drift kind of sideways off over the Saint Lawrence River and disappear. Wow. (laughs) Well, you know.

    9. JR

      Did people take pictures of this?

    10. DA

      No, we didn't get any pictures and I don't know who else saw it. But-

    11. JR

      What year was this?

    12. DA

      Uh, in the 2000, let's see, 5 or 6, something like that. Um, and then the-

    13. JR

      Did other people report it?

    14. DA

      No, I don't know. I should- (sighs) I think I should have checked and, and seen in Montreal with the local MUFON. I think they have a, a representative up there. But, uh, it was vivid. We all saw it. And then the f- uh, the fourth one that I saw, I was on my motorcycle leaving town to go, uh, at Kingston, Ontario where I live there, and I was driving out of the farm gate, and, uh, and I saw ... There's a power line that runs on the opposite farm there, uh, across the road, and I saw this winking red light just moving slowly along the top of the power pylons, and I thought, "Well, you know, helicopters, they do that kind of work where they, where they string power lines, but they don't really do it at night." I thought, "That's gotta be a chopper, a hydro chopper, like a hydro company chopper watching the power lines, checking for faults," or I don't know. I was ... And it goes along like this and I'm watching it and I, I, I stop the bike, you know, and I'm w- And then it stops and makes a right angle turn and comes right at me, and so I turn on the ... I have a police motorcycle, so I turn on my wigwags, you know, like that.

    15. JR

      You have a police motorcycle?

    16. DA

      Of course. I've got po-

    17. JR

      Why do you have a police motorcycle?

    18. DA

      I have police equi- Well, I'll, I'll, I'll-

    19. JR

      Are you a cop?

    20. DA

      Uh-

    21. JR

      Damn accurate. Imagine getting pulled over by a Blues Brother.

    22. DA

      Wouldn't that be good? I've, I've actually-

    23. JR

      (laughs)

    24. DA

      I've actually had the, uh, experience of actually pulling some people over anyway.

    25. JR

      You pull people over?

    26. DA

      Sure.

    27. JR

      Why'd you pull them over? You're a sheriff?

    28. DA

      Well, I was a reserve.

    29. JR

      Representative deputy sheriff. Dun, dun, dun.

    30. DA

      Uh, yeah. Reserve.

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