EVERY SPOKEN WORD
150 min read · 30,080 words- 0:00 – 15:00
And we're live with…
- JRJoe Rogan
And we're live with Dan Aykroyd, cutting oranges and doing a podcast at the same time.
- DADan Aykroyd
Yes. It's, uh... It's kind of like, uh, walking from the... the tightrope, uh, between two buildings, chewing gum, and uh, and looking up at the... at the ceiling. Y- have you ever heard of the... the guy who, uh... He was a tightrope walker at the turn of the century, um, and he was very famous. Uh, I think... I, I forget. He was a French guy. He walked over Niagara Falls several times.
- JRJoe Rogan
I know who you're talking about. Yeah.
- DADan Aykroyd
Uh, I... I... But, he was a French, uh, tightrope walker, and one of the things he did, Joe, was one... one morning, he said, "I'm gonna do this, but I'm gonna take my manager on my back. I'm gonna take a small stove, and I'm gonna cook him breakfast in the middle of the falls, right over the falls."
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, shit.
- DADan Aykroyd
And this is recorded of him having... A- can you imagine the manager, you know, the conversation there? "Okay. You're gonna climb on my back. We're going to the middle of the falls. I'm gonna make you breakfast." "I love you. I love handling you. But no... What? Uh, really? I have to do this?" So, he took his manager on the back, out to the falls, cooked him eggs right there, and then walked to the other end of the falls with a stove, his manager all on his back.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DADan Aykroyd
I... This is like... You know, these are... these are feats that, uh, that we hear about.
- JRJoe Rogan
Did he cook in the middle?
- DADan Aykroyd
He cooked in the middle of the falls.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- DADan Aykroyd
He cooked b-... He cooked eggs, and I think flapjacks, and, uh, all while, uh, handling his manager on his back, and handling the stove, and the whole thing. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's the images of it.
- DADan Aykroyd
There... There he is. There yet, there. There. There's the manager. Look.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, my goodness.
- DADan Aykroyd
Yeah. Isn't that funny?
- JRJoe Rogan
Where's he cooking?
- DADan Aykroyd
Yeah. Blondie, that was his name. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I wanna see him cooking.
- DADan Aykroyd
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
They must have a photo.
- DADan Aykroyd
They've got to have a photo.
- JRJoe Rogan
Is that a wheelbarrow up there?
- DADan Aykroyd
Yeah. Yeah, a wheelbarrow. He had the manager on his back. There he is, the manager on the back, you see, taking him across.
- JRJoe Rogan
Jesus Christ.
- DADan Aykroyd
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's how you earn your keep as a manager.
- DADan Aykroyd
(laughs) I... I know. And... And... And I don't know whether... There. There he is. Look at the table-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, my God.
- DADan Aykroyd
... and the chairs. Yeah.
- 15:00 – 30:00
Why does she, why…
- DADan Aykroyd
orange one and a cloudy green one, and they're smaller. She says they're all fakes, that they were carved by a German lapidary in the 1800s, and that he seeded them around the world. Well, wait a minute. I think one was found in Tibet, one was found in Ohio, we're hearing, at the Serpent Mounds.
- JRJoe Rogan
Why does she, why does she think this one gentleman did it?
- DADan Aykroyd
Uh, he, because he was an expert lapidary. He had the tools to do it. And, and she figures, her theory is that they're not artifacts polished by tribal, uh, uh, hands and passed down, that they're all fakes. But it's just, wait a minute, he would've had to have had an airship to go and deposit these wherever they might be around the world. Um, and, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
D- but does, what was his take?
- DADan Aykroyd
... you can, you can get the pictures of the skulls up, the Smithsonian crystal heads-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, please.
- DADan Aykroyd
... uh, and, uh, the Smithsonian's crystal head you can get, and Victoria & Albert crystal head.
- JRJoe Rogan
Do they all have-
- DADan Aykroyd
There.
- JRJoe Rogan
... the same, similar type of markings?
- DADan Aykroyd
There. There's the, there's theirs. Uh, yes. Yes, they do. They do. They all have the same. Now, you see, some of them are more, um, cl- are clearer. See, there's one at the, uh, the, the, uh, the British Museum. And there's some that are clearer and they're more beautiful, and there's some that are rougher, like, uh, that one there, and the, and the green and the orange one. But she says all fakes. But if they're all fakes, how did they get to these different places around the world and how were they found? Uh, you know.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, here's the, here's the thing, but what, why fake? The word fake is very strange, because it's like they are certainly real carved crystal skulls. So they're real.
- DADan Aykroyd
But were they from tribal ancestry?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right. Who-
- DADan Aykroyd
That's the question.
- JRJoe Rogan
Who made them? Is the question.
- DADan Aykroyd
Who made them?
- JRJoe Rogan
Were they from modern Western people?
- DADan Aykroyd
And how? Were they polished-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DADan Aykroyd
... or were they carved? That's the thing. Aren't they beautiful, though, God d-
- JRJoe Rogan
What do the indigenous people say? They say they found them?
- DADan Aykroyd
They, they, the Navajo say they came from the star children, that they, they were brought down and deposited and given to them as crystal ball devices, scrying devices too.
- JRJoe Rogan
What's that one down there, Jamie? Keep scrolling where you were. The one on the left.
- DADan Aykroyd
The green is beautiful.
- JRJoe Rogan
The one on the left right there, that looks m- almost like a real skull.
- DADan Aykroyd
Uh, it is a real one.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, is a real skull.
- DADan Aykroyd
Yeah. No, the green is beautiful. So, so I guess, I don't know, I'm not a scientist, uh, I'm not a professional historian. I guess I have to trust the lady at the Smithsonian. But then I question, they were found at different times in history around the world. How do you go and seed, how do you deposit them there? How do we know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Why does she believe that? Has she given a coherent reason why she thinks that they're all hoaxes?
- 30:00 – 45:00
... dummy. Yeah. …
- JRJoe Rogan
- DADan Aykroyd
... dummy. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
He was put under pressure to do so.
- DADan Aykroyd
Yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's in a movie called... What is it? Um, there's a documentary on Netflix, it's available, that he's in, um, that he talks about the pressure that they put on him to make light of that incident. And he talks about his own personal experiences with seeing something, some sort of triangle-shaped craft that was enormous, the size of several football fields. It was flying overhead, that was completely silent, and how it freaked him out. I think that was him.
- DADan Aykroyd
The triangle, the triangle and del- Delta crafts are very, very interesting.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DADan Aykroyd
But, uh, the, the Tinley Park incidents of the, uh, of the '80s, uh, and, uh, with, um... Sam Oranto was the investigator there from UFON.... these things would park over the family barbecue for about half an hour, and, you know, families in suburbs were looking up at them, the sky being blotted out by these things parking above them. (inhales deeply) So, y- y- I, I think it comes down to they... I don't think these beings... I... Well, Lord Hill Norton said there were 23 different species visiting the planet in 23 different types of ships. I don't think they want a formal relationship with people on Earth. They want an informal, secret relationship. I think they probably have one with elements of the, of black elements of the Air Force and the government. You know who David Sereda is?
- JRJoe Rogan
I've heard his name.
- DADan Aykroyd
David Sereda, you should have him on. He's very knowledgeable about this. Uh, he's, his theory is that the Roswell event may have been precipitated by the Trinity explosion at... Because there was such an inter-dimensional disturbance of the atoms being split in that explosion, there was, there was... That, that saucer there that went down in '47 may have, may have been influenced somehow negatively by, by that explosion. Now, Stanton Friedman doesn't, didn't buy that. I loved Stanton. He just passed away there.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DADan Aykroyd
He was the expert on Roswell.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I'm upset that I never got to meet him before he died. He-
- DADan Aykroyd
He was so credible, and so great.
- JRJoe Rogan
... was an interesting guy who believed in UFOs, but believed most people were li- were lying about them.
- DADan Aykroyd
(inhales deeply) Uh, really? Really?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DADan Aykroyd
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
He, well, he believed that there was a lot of horse shit going on-
- DADan Aykroyd
Well-
- JRJoe Rogan
... including Bob Lazar. He thought Bob Lazar was full of shit. He thought-
- DADan Aykroyd
Well, a- again, why would, why would Bob go out there and, and do that, and, and, and compromise his life, and you know-
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, let me tell you something, after talking to him for three hours-
- DADan Aykroyd
Incredible.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and then having dinner with him the night before, the, my, I don't have, I don't... I used to believe I had the best bullshit meter in the world, but as I've gotten older, I've gotten more honest. (laughs)
- DADan Aykroyd
You did.
- JRJoe Rogan
And, uh, I d- I don't, I didn't see anything. He's-
- DADan Aykroyd
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... he's incredibly smart guy, and he's not a guy who's like seeking out attention, and he's not profiting from this. And in fact-
- DADan Aykroyd
Well, just his demeanor and everything.
- 45:00 – 1:00:00
(sighs) . …
- JRJoe Rogan
think that they would can- ... Listen, sci-fi is all about those shows. I mean, I watched a, an episode of sci-fi where there's a bunch of people that claim to be trapped in a cabin in Maine because werewolves were outside. It's just like-
- DADan Aykroyd
(sighs) .
- JRJoe Rogan
It's ... They're into nonsense.
- DADan Aykroyd
Well, they don't do talk shows.
- JRJoe Rogan
I did a show on sci-fi.
- DADan Aykroyd
Talk show?
- JRJoe Rogan
I had a show called Joe Rogan Questions Everything, where I would go-
- DADan Aykroyd
How long did it last?
- JRJoe Rogan
Not very long, but part of that was my idea.
- DADan Aykroyd
Uh-huh.
- JRJoe Rogan
I didn't w-
- DADan Aykroyd
And then you worked for Bonnie?
- JRJoe Rogan
I didn't wanna keep doing it.
- DADan Aykroyd
You worked for Bonnie Hammer, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
No, it w- it was different people back then.
- DADan Aykroyd
C- 'cause she's one of the smartest executives in the industry, and I-
- JRJoe Rogan
I-
- DADan Aykroyd
... I, I, I don't doubt that she'll be running NBC someday, or all of Universal. But I, and I just, I just ... I would always like to know what happened. Did someone call you, Bonnie, and, and say, "You know, don't bring this up now."
- JRJoe Rogan
I just don't think anyone's gonna call people about UFOs.
- DADan Aykroyd
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, if they're gonna make phone calls, they're gonna, you know, take out Don Lemon or something 'cause he talks shit about Trump. (laughs) . They're not gonna-
- DADan Aykroyd
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know what I mean?
- DADan Aykroyd
Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, maybe she just-
- JRJoe Rogan
It just- it just doesn't make sense.
- DADan Aykroyd
I don't know. I'd always like to know what happened.
- JRJoe Rogan
UFOs are w- openly discredited by normal people, people dismiss them.
- DADan Aykroyd
Well, not entirely, though. Half the world, uh, d- believes. If you look at the work of Ralph Blumenthal and Leslie Kean, New York Times reporters, they're credibly reporting these, this stuff. Barney and Betty Hill, the State of New Hampshire has certified their s- their, their, uh, uh, has certified their experience with a plaque. You can go to the place where they were allegedly abducted, and the State of New Hampshire has "UFO Incident" right there.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right. But we both know that that doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean it happened because someone-
- DADan Aykroyd
Well, it means it's a state-certified or state-
- 1:00:00 – 1:03:20
Mm-hmm. …
- DADan Aykroyd
moon and I, I love that story about there was only 17 seconds of fuel left when they, when they landed.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- DADan Aykroyd
And then that he had to kinda h- hop over some rocks to get there, you know. Um, so there's a story that Neil Armstrong was at a conference in, in, uh, in France in a hotel room and one o-... And there was a woman there who had been previously head of MI6 and she was a part of this cocktail party. And she overheard a conversation between Neil Armstrong and another gentleman who was in the intelligence service. And the guy was asking him about the moon landing. And Neil said, "You know, there was a frequency that we switched to, to talk about other things that were happening at that time." And the guy said, "What do you mean?" He said, "When we landed there on the rim of the crater nearby," he said, "there were several ships and they were large and menacing."
- JRJoe Rogan
What's a menacing ship?
- DADan Aykroyd
M- uh, large.
- JRJoe Rogan
Shaped like one of your bottles of skulls?
- DADan Aykroyd
Well, no, that... No, this here's a happy skull.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's menacing.
- DADan Aykroyd
No, the Coneheads starship. Remember the Coneheads starship?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, but I, I do remember that. (laughs)
- DADan Aykroyd
So I mean, that's a total anec- I mean, what I think, you know, if that... If Neil Arm- if that's true...... you know? Well-
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, he only said that one time in French. Maybe they- we- maybe their translations sucked.
- DADan Aykroyd
Yeah, you know, the woman, again, the woman... Do you want this... Oh, I might as well have it straight, right? Uh, the woman, the woman was with MI6, purportedly. That's kind of a- a neat story, you know? I don't know.
- JRJoe Rogan
Of course it's a neat story.
- DADan Aykroyd
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Edgar Mitchell said that he saw something out there too, right?
- DADan Aykroyd
Edgar Mitchell did, and, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, he- he was a fr-
- DADan Aykroyd
... and, uh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's- he's passed away.
- DADan Aykroyd
Condon.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's passed away since, right?
- DADan Aykroyd
Yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Edgar Mitchell.
- DADan Aykroyd
No, there were-
- JRJoe Rogan
He was a firm believer.
- DADan Aykroyd
And the- and then the- the STS, 1979 STS space shuttle footage, you've seen that. STS 1979, uh, tether, uh, satellite tether break.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, I have seen that. Yeah.
- DADan Aykroyd
Yeah. The tether broke off, it was a mile long, and they were supposed to spin off a satellite, it was a mile long, and they- and it broke.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
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